a copy of ASL dump for acer aspire laptops models
Hi everyone, I need a copy of ACPI Source Language (ASL), '# acpidump-dt copy_model_laptop.asl' of any version of FreeBSD you have the option ACPI always enabled and does not give any problem on ACER laptops. Anyone can send me a copy of your ASL dump ( see above ) of ACER ASPIRE laptops model? Thanks, see you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: a copy of ASL dump for acer aspire laptops models
Hi, Reference: From: Xavier xavierfreebsdquesti...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 14:21:04 +0200 Xavier wrote: Hi everyone, I need a copy of ACPI Source Language (ASL), '# acpidump-dt copy_model_laptop.asl' of any version of FreeBSD you have the option ACPI always enabled and does not give any problem on ACER laptops. Anyone can send me a copy of your ASL dump ( see above ) of ACER ASPIRE laptops model? Hi, I have an acer/aspire/5741 no problems I'm aware of, so will send you mine. uname -a FreeBSD lapr.js.berklix.net 9.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE #3: Tue Apr 9 14:33:17 CEST 2013 j...@lapr.js.berklix.net:/sys/amd64/compile/LAPR.small amd64 I'm not sure what you mean at you have the option ACPI always enabled and does not give any problem however, sysctl -a | grep -i acpi does show device acpi 136 lines in total, acpidump -dt produces 15,840 lines, so I'll not append to list but private mail you. Anything else you need ? What's wrong ? What you are you chasing ? PS mob...@freebsd.org or a...@freesbd.org would be better best lists for this, not questions@. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-acpi http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile so I added cc: freebsd-a...@freebsd.org Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: a copy of ASL dump for acer aspire laptops models
Hi Xavier cc questions@ acpi@ I wrote: acpidump -dt produces 15,840 lines, so I'll not append to list but private mail you. I put it here so others on acpi@ questions@ can look too if they want. http://berklix.com/~jhs/hardware/laptops/acer/aspire/5741/ Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
laptops and notebooks
hi, Does anyone here use FreeBSD or PC-BSD with HP TouchSmart laptops/notebooks? Thanks, Andy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: suitable laptops
On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 12:56:58PM -0800, Lee Shackelford wrote: Dear FreeBSD enthusiast. Greetings. Is anyone aware of a list of laptop computers on which it is especially easy to install FreeBSD, or conversely, on which it is unusually difficult to install FreeBSD? Alternately, does anyone know of a vendor who offers a laptop with FreeBSD pre-installed? If this question has been answered before, it is sufficient to direct me to the location of the answer. Many thanks for your assistance. Yours truly, L e e S h a c k e l f o r d @ d o t . c a . g o v I've had really good luck with Thinkpads. Because they're among the best laptops available, open source developers tend to focus on supporting them faster than a lot of other laptops. It's the best of both worlds. Also . . . Lenovo is selling some Thinkpad models with SuSE Linux installed. Those are likely to be better supported by FreeBSD than other models, I would imagine. Aside from that, I think the FreeBSD Laptop Compatibility List brought up by others should be useful: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] They always say that when life gives you lemons you should make lemonade. I always wonder -- isn't the lemonade going to suck if life doesn't give you any sugar? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
suitable laptops
Dear FreeBSD enthusiast. Greetings. Is anyone aware of a list of laptop computers on which it is especially easy to install FreeBSD, or conversely, on which it is unusually difficult to install FreeBSD? Alternately, does anyone know of a vendor who offers a laptop with FreeBSD pre-installed? If this question has been answered before, it is sufficient to direct me to the location of the answer. Many thanks for your assistance. Yours truly, L e e S h a c k e l f o r d @ d o t . c a . g o v ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: suitable laptops
check out this site: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ TFC On Jan 29, 2008 3:56 PM, Lee Shackelford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear FreeBSD enthusiast. Greetings. Is anyone aware of a list of laptop computers on which it is especially easy to install FreeBSD, or conversely, on which it is unusually difficult to install FreeBSD? Alternately, does anyone know of a vendor who offers a laptop with FreeBSD pre-installed? If this question has been answered before, it is sufficient to direct me to the location of the answer. Many thanks for your assistance. Yours truly, L e e S h a c k e l f o r d @ d o t . c a . g o v ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: suitable laptops
Le Tue, 29 Jan 2008 12:56:58 -0800, Lee Shackelford [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Helo, Dear FreeBSD enthusiast. Greetings. Is anyone aware of a list of laptop computers on which it is especially easy to install FreeBSD, or conversely, on which it is unusually difficult to install FreeBSD? May be : http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
speaking of favorite laptops
does anybody have experience using... Asus R2H Ultra Mobile Personal Computer http://www.xtremenotebooks.com/index.php?section=specsmodel_id=1232 or EO TufTab v7112 Ultra Mobile PC http://www.xtremenotebooks.com/index.php?section=specsmodel_id=1293 == Because sentence against an evil deed is not executed speedily, the human heart is fully set to do evil. Ecclesiastes 8:11 Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/index.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Propose for a PCMCIA wireless card for laptops
I have a Edimax EW-7108PCg that works great under Linux: ( http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=253490prodlist=nextag) The reason it works great is because Edimax is great at giving documentation to developers to write drivers for it. I found this for OpenBSD: http://m0n0.ch/wall/list/showmsg.php?id=147/83 Messages back from 2005 that the OpenBSD team had received drives for it. I didn't find anything right away for FreeBSD, but you might could find some confirmation with a little searching. Anyway, it is a great card, I got it at newegg for $25, but they don't seem to have it anymore. Zipzoomfly does though (link above) for $30 with a $5 MIR. Anyway, I know this isn't the absolute confirmation you probably hoped for, but at least it might give you a card with good potential to research a little more or try. HTH, Preston On 11/16/06, Frozen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, anyone who can propose for a (quite cheap) PCMCIA wireless card for laptops, easily supported by FreeBSD ? cause i recently found a pcmcia D-Link 610 wireless card, managed to enable her but doesn't function properly as it should.. Thanks in advance, Frozen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Propose for a PCMCIA wireless card for laptops
Hey, anyone who can propose for a (quite cheap) PCMCIA wireless card for laptops, easily supported by FreeBSD ? cause i recently found a pcmcia D-Link 610 wireless card, managed to enable her but doesn't function properly as it should.. Thanks in advance, Frozen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on laptops
On 6/11/06, Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/10/06, Sergio Lenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you looking for a first time BSD desktop (KDE) then try PC-BSD. and If you can't get that to run (PC-BSD is based on FreeBSD) give SuSE 10.1 a go. Good option I tried... fast easy... the version is still 5.X ... but is good... it is KDE based PC-BSD 1.1 is based on FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE. I think your thinking of the DesktopBSD project... PC-BSD also has PBI installers packages, as well as access to all of FreeBSD's ports and packages collection. http://www.pcbsd.org/index.php?id=41 http://www.pcbsd.org/?p=learnpbi -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This looks very interesting... Thank you all. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on laptops
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006, Derek Jander wrote: Hi all! I'm considering to migrate my HP nx9030 from Windows XP Professional to *nix OS since almost all the servers I'm administering right now have some Linux flavour installed. I was about to install fedora when some firend told me about FreeBSD. I just tested it on a Virtual Machine and it looks great. My doubt now, is if it will be very difficult to make it work on my machine. I really need the internal modem, and of course the Wireless and stuff... And I can't be dealing with it for months Anyone who had already installed FBSD on that sistem (HP nx9030) could post any comment? There's an entry for the nx9030 on the FreeBSD Laptop Compatibility List: http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/index.pl?action=show_laptop_detaillaptop=571 They don't come out and say it, but that one guy is using a PC Card modem suggests the onboard one is an unsupported Winmodem. Most built-in notebook modems are. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD on laptops
Hi all! I'm considering to migrate my HP nx9030 from Windows XP Professional to *nix OS since almost all the servers I'm administering right now have some Linux flavour installed. I was about to install fedora when some firend told me about FreeBSD. I just tested it on a Virtual Machine and it looks great. My doubt now, is if it will be very difficult to make it work on my machine. I really need the internal modem, and of course the Wireless and stuff... And I can't be dealing with it for months Anyone who had already installed FBSD on that sistem (HP nx9030) could post any comment? Any help will be appreciated. Thank you! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on laptops
On Jun 10, 2006, at 1:45 AM, Derek Jander wrote: Hi all! I'm considering to migrate my HP nx9030 from Windows XP Professional to *nix OS since almost all the servers I'm administering right now have some Linux flavour installed. I was about to install fedora when some firend told me about FreeBSD. I just tested it on a Virtual Machine and it looks great. My doubt now, is if it will be very difficult to make it work on my machine. I really need the internal modem, and of course the Wireless and stuff... And I can't be dealing with it for months Anyone who had already installed FBSD on that sistem (HP nx9030) could post any comment? Any help will be appreciated. Thank you! I'd look into the laptop mailing list to see if anyone else has asked this same question. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on laptops
Derek Jander wrote: Hi all! I'm considering to migrate my HP nx9030 from Windows XP Professional to *nix OS since almost all the servers I'm administering right now have some Linux flavour installed. I was about to install fedora when some firend told me about FreeBSD. I just tested it on a Virtual Machine and it looks great. My doubt now, is if it will be very difficult to make it work on my machine. I really need the internal modem, and of course the Wireless and stuff... And I can't be dealing with it for months Anyone who had already installed FBSD on that sistem (HP nx9030) could post any comment? Any help will be appreciated. If you need help with a particular piece of hardware, better specify the chipset of that rather than the model of the laptop. There are two things for you to do: 1) check the hardware compatibility list for the version you plan to install, ie: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.1R/hardware-i386.html 2) Try one of the available live cd's. Unfortunately they are usually based on one of the older releases, but if it works then you can be quite certain that it will also work with the latest release. Hope that helps, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: FreeBSD on laptops
Hello... I have here running on an HP pavilion zv6000 with all enabled... gnome2.14 + flash7 + wireless + kernel 6.1 + java. + multimedia(all types and plugins: rmv, avi, asf) + dvdRW..., openoffice 2.0.2 java 1.4, 1.5, eclipse, jdk, monodevelop the broadcom wireless built from the ndis windows driver... All running on FreeBSD Is amazing... in fact, we are starting do ship notebooks with FreeBSD in 1-2 months... the primary users will be high executives, decision chain persons, that will operate Kontact + evolution linked to a Open-Xchange servers... Their needed for secure machines, with an secure operating system, that is imune to virus , spywares, with a vpn (using ppp over ip) that in case of lost, robbery, can be used to track down the machine or simply wipe out the operating system and do not expose the information inside... a secret key on the loader, prevents the machine from being used in single user, so one machine can be safetly be used with more than one person in the company... Besides, each notebook (a turion amd64...) can be used as a FreeBSD diskless server, and when activated, almost every machine on an lan that connects with it, can be used with as a diskless client using PXE boot (available on almost every PC now... including the notebook...). I can send some screen shots if you are interested... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on laptops
Derek Jander wrote: Hi all! I'm considering to migrate my HP nx9030 from Windows XP Professional to *nix OS since almost all the servers I'm administering right now have some Linux flavour installed. I was about to install fedora when some firend told me about FreeBSD. I just tested it on a Virtual Machine and it looks great. My doubt now, is if it will be very difficult to make it work on my machine. I really need the internal modem, and of course the Wireless and stuff... And I can't be dealing with it for months Anyone who had already installed FBSD on that sistem (HP nx9030) could post any comment? Any help will be appreciated. Thank you! You could also stay on virtual machines. If you deal with different flavors of Linux, this will allow you to experiment and a mistake will not render you without laptop. Also until you make your laptop run FreeBSD, you might have some downtime, if you have not done it. Just some thoughts. Iv. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on laptops
On 6/10/06, Derek Jander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all! I'm considering to migrate my HP nx9030 from Windows XP Professional to *nix OS since almost all the servers I'm administering right now have some Linux flavour installed. I was about to install fedora when some firend told me about FreeBSD. I just tested it on a Virtual Machine and it looks great. My doubt now, is if it will be very difficult to make it work on my machine. I really need the internal modem, and of course the Wireless and stuff... And I can't be dealing with it for months Anyone who had already installed FBSD on that sistem (HP nx9030) could post any comment? Any help will be appreciated. If you looking for a first time BSD desktop (KDE) then try PC-BSD. and If you can't get that to run (PC-BSD is based on FreeBSD) give SuSE 10.1 a go. -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on laptops
If you looking for a first time BSD desktop (KDE) then try PC-BSD. and If you can't get that to run (PC-BSD is based on FreeBSD) give SuSE 10.1 a go. Good option I tried... fast easy... the version is still 5.X ... but is good... it is KDE based On the HP series, due to a hardware problem in the keyboard, it locks just ast you load the kernel... solution: Boot with a patched keyboard kernel (the one that does not test the hardware...) google points.. Again I recomend the 6.1 kernel... and gnome.. 2.14 or 2.15 is ligher than kde, and easy for the end user 2.15 with HAL implementation is amazing We notice here that users (those who just want to use the computer) does better with gnome (less options, less thing to confitgure) They just want to read email, use office, som multemedia... internet... and a groupware package linked to the evolution ... in my case, the open-xchange software Lenzi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on laptops
On 6/10/06, Sergio Lenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you looking for a first time BSD desktop (KDE) then try PC-BSD. and If you can't get that to run (PC-BSD is based on FreeBSD) give SuSE 10.1 a go. Good option I tried... fast easy... the version is still 5.X ... but is good... it is KDE based PC-BSD 1.1 is based on FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE. I think your thinking of the DesktopBSD project... PC-BSD also has PBI installers packages, as well as access to all of FreeBSD's ports and packages collection. http://www.pcbsd.org/index.php?id=41 http://www.pcbsd.org/?p=learnpbi -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on current crop of laptops?
On Wed, Aug 17, 2005 at 10:11:38PM -0600, Tom Vilot wrote: I like the (big-ass) Toshiba Satellite machines, but I'm not wedded to them. I am curious what people's experiences are with some of the newer laptops and what might be recommended. I can recommend the IBM Thinkpad R51, especially the models with Ati 7500 or 9000 graphics, because these chips are supported by the free drivers that come with Xorg. I run FreeBSD 5.4 on my R51 and I am very happy with it. I have also heard positive statements about the Samsung X20 XVM 1600. Uwe ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on current crop of laptops?
When I had my Dell Inspiron 5100, it took a little tweaking but I eventually got agp support to work. I havent heard any info about the newer dell models though Ben Uwe Laverenz wrote: On Wed, Aug 17, 2005 at 10:11:38PM -0600, Tom Vilot wrote: I like the (big-ass) Toshiba Satellite machines, but I'm not wedded to them. I am curious what people's experiences are with some of the newer laptops and what might be recommended. I can recommend the IBM Thinkpad R51, especially the models with Ati 7500 or 9000 graphics, because these chips are supported by the free drivers that come with Xorg. I run FreeBSD 5.4 on my R51 and I am very happy with it. I have also heard positive statements about the Samsung X20 XVM 1600. Uwe ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on current crop of laptops?
Tom Vilot wrote: I'm itching for a new laptop. I like the (big-ass) Toshiba Satellite machines, but I'm not wedded to them. I am curious what people's experiences are with some of the newer laptops and what might be recommended. Also -- I am interested (possibly) in an AMD 64 laptop, if BSD is working well on one... Thanks. http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/ Don't know if it will have what you're after... You do know there's a freebsd-mobile list as well? Anything in its archives? You can always run i386 BSD on an AMD64. If your big-ass machine has a big-ass disk then you can put both 1386 and amd64 on it and dual boot. There's a big list of ports which don't run on amd64 which flew by this list recently. --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on current crop of laptops?
On 2005-08-17 22:11, Tom Vilot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm itching for a new laptop. I like the (big-ass) Toshiba Satellite machines, but I'm not wedded to them. I am curious what people's experiences are with some of the newer laptops and what might be recommended. Also -- I am interested (possibly) in an AMD 64 laptop, if BSD is working well on one... I'm typing this on an Acer Ferrari 3400. FreeBSD installs in a breeze, after rebuilding a kernel with cpufreq I can run powerd to reduce power consumption as much as possible, and the only two parts that I haven't had a change to configure yet (during the last 2-3 days) are: - Wireless networking - Internal modem (this will probably never work) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on current crop of laptops?
Giorgos Keramidas wrote: I'm typing this on an Acer Ferrari 3400. Those are kinda sweet machines, too ... :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on current crop of laptops?
On 2005-08-18 08:34, Tom Vilot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giorgos Keramidas wrote: I'm typing this on an Acer Ferrari 3400. Those are kinda sweet machines, too ... :) Putting aside the fact that Acer's support in Greece is rather problematic, to put it mildly, and the fact that it would be nice to have a real RS-232 serial port on the laptop, yes... I can say they're nice laptops. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD on current crop of laptops?
I'm itching for a new laptop. I like the (big-ass) Toshiba Satellite machines, but I'm not wedded to them. I am curious what people's experiences are with some of the newer laptops and what might be recommended. Also -- I am interested (possibly) in an AMD 64 laptop, if BSD is working well on one... Thanks. -- The statements that make people mad are the ones they worry might be believed. I suspect the statements that make people maddest are those they worry might be true. -- Paul Graham Hackers and Painters Page 36 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptops, centralized authentication, and roaming profiles
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Henry Miller wrote: On 6/7/2005 at 19:09 Tony Shadwick wrote: I have a question of theory that has been bugging me that I thought I would throw at the list. Presume this configuration: a typical small to medium sized company, we'll say 25 workstations, all running some version of *nix, for sanity we'll presume all FreeBSD, but I see no reason some couldn't be linux or osx. I could set up centralized authentication via NIS or LDAP without too much difficulty. I'm aware of the differences in password schema that must be overcome, but I've learned to deal with this. So now I can go workstation to workstation and log in, no problem. NFS can be set up equally well. No issues. In the scenario with desktop machines, this quite simply isn't a problem so long as you are okay with working on everything across the network. Something about that bugs me though...really. You wind up eating up network resources constantly. :\ Anyway, that's a tangent to the real kicker. Laptops. They don't stay put! (well duh) Okay, so the user can log in to the domain if you will when in the office, and sure, NFS will automount, but what happens when the user leaves the office? I've done some quick searching on roaming profiles (I actually googled 'linux roaming profiles' with little success). So how should one play this out? I personally am on a Powerbook, and have intentionally set up local user auth. I open and close my laptop to sleep it, leave a network, open it and next thing you know you're on a new network. Now, the fact that you generally only have 1 user per laptop makes this kind of okay, but your home directory is no longer centralized, you home directory doesn't get backed up, and now I'm dealing with a user that really isn't auth'ing against the domain, and having to alot permissions for such user, and having to manage local machine uid's and gid's. Ugh! You see the cluttered path my mind is wandering down here? Is there already a solution to this, or is it still someone one must hack for themselves? This is a hard question. Coda and AFS (Andrew's file system) both attempt to solve the home dir problem. They are both known to be a headache, and not always stable. (though some very large installations use AFS, so it must work once you sacrifice the right breed of goat or whatever it is you have to do) They are worth investigating. Consider connecting laptops via VPN, even when in the office. Only a fool would have a laptop these days without wireless networking, and wireless isn't secure by default. A VPN is just one solution, but since it solves the out of office issue (so long as you have network connectivity somewhere, which isn't a given) so it might be the best way to go. Or maybe not, like I said, consider it. I don't know how to solve the login problem. If your company has money (with only 25 workstations this is unlikely) you should hire a couple developers to work on a solution. Perhaps you can find a project that is working on parts of this and donate money? I don't know of any, but if you find them. Ooohgood call on the vpn. Set it up to where they have a local user, and local home directory, vpn in. Okay, so now I'm on the network, presuming the pptp server was authing against OpenLDAP or NIS. Add a script to that login that mounts any NFS shares, and quite possibly does a quick rsync against a server to back up the home directory. Problem is, if they didn't nicely disconnect, then we don't know who's copy needs to be updated, the local copy or the remote copy. :\ I'll look into Andrew's File System. That's a bit of a misnomer on the acronym though. AFS seems to be more commonly known as Apple File Sharing protocol. Yay... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptops, centralized authentication, and roaming profiles
On Jun 8, 2005, at 11:13 AM, Tony Shadwick wrote: Ooohgood call on the vpn. Set it up to where they have a local user, and local home directory, vpn in. Okay, so now I'm on the network, presuming the pptp server was authing against OpenLDAP or NIS. Add a script to that login that mounts any NFS shares, and quite possibly does a quick rsync against a server to back up the home directory. Problem is, if they didn't nicely disconnect, then we don't know who's copy needs to be updated, the local copy or the remote copy. :\ If you're going to be updating two trees of stuff not always in sync, a version control system like CVS or SVN might be worth considering. Used carefully, rsync will also deal with this pretty well, but you would be wise to have known-good backups before trusting rsync -- delete to merge. I'll look into Andrew's File System. That's a bit of a misnomer on the acronym though. AFS seems to be more commonly known as Apple File Sharing protocol. Yay... Nowadays, that's true. However, CMU was using AFS before Apple sold computers which could do ethernet, and it's quite possible that Andrew even predates the introduction of the original 128k Macs. It's Andrew File System, BTW, no possessive: named after Andrew Carnegie and Andrew Mellon, who are the C and M from where the system was developed. :-) -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptops, centralized authentication, and roaming profiles
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Henry Miller wrote: On 6/8/2005 at 10:13 Tony Shadwick wrote: On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Henry Miller wrote: Ooohgood call on the vpn. Set it up to where they have a local user, and local home directory, vpn in. Okay, so now I'm on the network, presuming the pptp server was authing against OpenLDAP or NIS. Add a script to that login that mounts any NFS shares, and quite possibly does a quick rsync against a server to back up the home directory. Problem is, if they didn't nicely disconnect, then we don't know who's copy needs to be updated, the local copy or the remote copy. :\ Can you setup subversion or some other. As a programmer I don't backup my home directory at work because all my important work is kept in CVS anyway. (or it is a work in progress from today, and wouldn't be on a backup if there was a crash) The CVS server is backed up, and I check in often. Teaching management to use it will be hard. However if yours are among those [few] who get it, they will love you for giving it too them. MS Word doesn't allow diffs against documents, but perhaps you can teach subversion to diff OpenOffice.org (or whatever you use) files. It is a long shot, but it solves your problems, and although more work is also a net gain. I suppose I should give a plug for the company I work for as well: Our rocketVault with continuous backups (basically rsync) can backup your laptops when they are in the office. Since most laptop uses don't roam between machines they don't need the shared home directory so much as a backup. It is a completely different solution than the one you are thinking of, but it might solve the laptop problem good enough, and let you worry about other issues. (www.intradyn.com) Thanks, I don't mind the plug either. I'm working out and documenting solutions to these types of issues right now. It is still just theoretical, adn not an actual customer need, but I see it going that direction as soon as I try to implement it in a live environment. Do you guys have your software in the ports tree for easy installation? :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptops, centralized authentication, and roaming profiles
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Charles Swiger wrote: On Jun 8, 2005, at 11:13 AM, Tony Shadwick wrote: Ooohgood call on the vpn. Set it up to where they have a local user, and local home directory, vpn in. Okay, so now I'm on the network, presuming the pptp server was authing against OpenLDAP or NIS. Add a script to that login that mounts any NFS shares, and quite possibly does a quick rsync against a server to back up the home directory. Problem is, if they didn't nicely disconnect, then we don't know who's copy needs to be updated, the local copy or the remote copy. :\ If you're going to be updating two trees of stuff not always in sync, a version control system like CVS or SVN might be worth considering. Used carefully, rsync will also deal with this pretty well, but you would be wise to have known-good backups before trusting rsync --delete to merge. I'll look into Andrew's File System. That's a bit of a misnomer on the acronym though. AFS seems to be more commonly known as Apple File Sharing protocol. Yay... Nowadays, that's true. However, CMU was using AFS before Apple sold computers which could do ethernet, and it's quite possible that Andrew even predates the introduction of the original 128k Macs. It's Andrew File System, BTW, no possessive: named after Andrew Carnegie and Andrew Mellon, who are the C and M from where the system was developed. :-) -- -Chuck Yeah, I didn't mean Apple had first dibbs, I'm just saying waking up to your random tech, and regard to file storage, you say AFS, 9 times out of 10 they'll think you're talking about Apple File Sharing. :) I'm seriously going to look into that. Version control would be awesome if I could script it and not have the user needing to mess with too many command line switches and such, and I agree, they would love me for it. The trick is that in most companies, the laptop users are the VIP's. The people that decide if you still get money from them or not. :OP So yes, they would love the benefits of being able to roll back a file to an older version if they screwed up, but these same people are usually the ones that want the least hassle with using the computer. All of the toys, but none of responsibilities or pitfalls for having said toys. Gotta love it. :\ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Laptops, centralized authentication, and roaming profiles
I have a question of theory that has been bugging me that I thought I would throw at the list. Presume this configuration: a typical small to medium sized company, we'll say 25 workstations, all running some version of *nix, for sanity we'll presume all FreeBSD, but I see no reason some couldn't be linux or osx. I could set up centralized authentication via NIS or LDAP without too much difficulty. I'm aware of the differences in password schema that must be overcome, but I've learned to deal with this. So now I can go workstation to workstation and log in, no problem. NFS can be set up equally well. No issues. In the scenario with desktop machines, this quite simply isn't a problem so long as you are okay with working on everything across the network. Something about that bugs me though...really. You wind up eating up network resources constantly. :\ Anyway, that's a tangent to the real kicker. Laptops. They don't stay put! (well duh) Okay, so the user can log in to the domain if you will when in the office, and sure, NFS will automount, but what happens when the user leaves the office? I've done some quick searching on roaming profiles (I actually googled 'linux roaming profiles' with little success). So how should one play this out? I personally am on a Powerbook, and have intentionally set up local user auth. I open and close my laptop to sleep it, leave a network, open it and next thing you know you're on a new network. Now, the fact that you generally only have 1 user per laptop makes this kind of okay, but your home directory is no longer centralized, you home directory doesn't get backed up, and now I'm dealing with a user that really isn't auth'ing against the domain, and having to alot permissions for such user, and having to manage local machine uid's and gid's. Ugh! You see the cluttered path my mind is wandering down here? Is there already a solution to this, or is it still someone one must hack for themselves? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
help needed on configuring rl0 on medion laptops
hi everyone, I am a very enthusiastic FreeBSD newbie (I have wanted to use FreeBSD for years, but thanks to the latest Freesbie 1.1 which is awesome, I have finally made the step). I have a good knowledge of linux administration, both system and network and am presently learning the correspondances with FreeBSD line commands. So, here is my problem for which I would need your help : on my laptop (medion 1GHz mobile, with a realtech 8129/8139 network card), my network card is detected and recognized as what it is but, whether I use sysinstall and its network config wizard or dhclient or assign manually a network address with netmask and so on (ifconfig inet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) and the route also manually, it never changes (whether rebooted in between or not), but says my ip is 0.0.0.0 and dhclient complains that it cannot find any dhcp server although, on another computer with the very same network cable and networkplug on the wall, it has no problem whatsoever here is the error message I get : rl0 watchdog timeout furthermore, when i boot under linux, it works perfectly fine ... would there be a need to load another driver (modprobe under linux but i don't know the equivalent under FreeBSD) thanks in advance for your help hb4j ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: All your laptops are belong to Windows.
If you have an HP or Compaq laptop, and you see this problem TRY the R3000Z patches. I tried a bunch of things to get my HP Pavilion to work, but I decided I would delay converting this machine until I know more about what I am doing. FreeBSD 5.3 *does* install on another P3-650 laptop on which I just upgraded the HD from 10GB to 100GB. My Pavilion is going to sit on a shelf until it can boot FreeBSD. The 100GB drive makes my old laptop suddenly usable again (as a primary machine). In hindsight, I should not have bought the HP, and it's too late to take it back. Thats what I get for playing World of Warcraft on it for 30 days under Windows. My advice to anybody thinking of buying an HP laptop, is to not do it. I bought the 100GB 2.5 drive for $200 at CompUSA, any old laptop that can already run FreeBSD can use one of them to become very useful again. I also bought a FireWire card for my old laptop, and am hoping that I will be able to use my external drives with FreeBSD (it worked under Win XP and Fedora Core 3). I have about 4 external 160GB drives that can work on FireWire and USB2. I didn't have much luck with them on FC3 using USB2, but they worked great under FireWire. I am hoping FreeBSD 5.3 will also work with FireWire. Windows was just the opposite, USB2 worked well and FireWire was flaky. I'm sure I'll ask more about my FreeBSD install problems in the future, but for now, I'm going to learn using the machines that it works on. By the time I'm comfortable with this OS, the problems will probably be solved. I don't blame FreeBSD for any of this, it's the HP Pavilion that is weird. Its the only machine I've owned where nothing could be changed within the BIOS (like disabling HyperThreading). The only thing I can change in the BIOS is the date/time. thx -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.1.0 - Release Date: 2/18/2005 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: All your laptops are belong to Windows.
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of bsdnooby Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 11:33 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: All your laptops are belong to Windows. I'm defeated. The FreeBSD install gives no hints as to why it turns off my laptop. When I try to install FreeBSD, my brand new I'm blue.HP Pavilion laptop turns itself off. It does not matter if I use 4.x or 5.x, CD or floppies. There is no error log since it just shuts off after I choose to load a kernel. I have tried loading with ACPI off, and it does not help. I believe I tried all the kernel options available from the menu on 5.x. After reading that 4.X is killing it, my guess is that what's going on is that one of the device drivers compiled into the kernel that is for a piece of hardware that is NOT on your laptop is issuing a probe that is hitting a port that HP decided to use for something. If you really wanted to, and you have a system already running 5.X, it is possible to compile a custom kernel that has all device drivers stripped out of it, then put this kernel onto the first install floppy and do a floppy install of FreeBSD. Then make sure a copy of that kernel exists on the system when you reboot. This is a long and complicated procedure, unfortunately, and since your laptop is brand new, probably isn't worth it since you can simply return the laptop to the store and get a different one. (since it's under the 30 day return policy) Before you do that though it would be very kind if you could please submit a PR for this so we can get it documented. I also still think that the ACPI could possibly be at fault. I know that there's an option to disable ACPI probes, but I had a similar problem with a different system back in the early 4.X series of FreeBSD. I forget the version of FreeBSD that they introduced ACPI support, but I clearly recall the prior version of FreeBSD booting and running on a desktop, then the next 4.x version which had ACPI, not booting on this system, despite turning off the ACPI probe. As I recall a BIOS update from the manufacturer fixed the problem. (ACPI still didn't work but at least the diskettes booted) Of course, since power management on a laptop is pretty required, an exercise in getting a stripped kernel running on that Pavilion is purely academic. The computer is a HP Pavilion zv5445us, with 512MB RAM, P4-3Ghz, 100GB HD, 15.4 Hi-Def Screen, 54G 802.11b WLAN. I purchased it from Best Buy. Best Buy is fairly good at taking exchanges within 30 days. Their written policy kind of threatens a restocking charge of 15% on opened notebook computers - but the exception is if the item is defective. In your case you have a grey area, but if you were to take it back and tell them that the system is periodically shutting itself down and you want to exchange it for a different model because you don't have any confidence in the zv5445us, they wouldn't be able to verify this and you could probably talk your way out of the restock charge, PARTICULARLY if you bought the item on a credit card - since credit card issuers generally take a dim view of restock fees on consumer items. I have had a family member do this exact thing with a laptop he bought from there a few years ago. (it wasn't a FreeBSD thing, the laptop was just not very well made and he ended up buying a more expensive laptop from them) This is also particularly if you bring back ALL OF the original packing materials AND THE SOFTWARE particularly if it's unopened, and repack the laptop in it's box. Remember that Best Buy has to send the thing back to HP and if it breaks in transit and it wasn't in the factory cardboard, HP is going to charge Best Buy for the loss. abruptly shutdown when trying to do the install. It turns off before the install really starts, so I do not have much information to solve this problem. The HD is never touched. I'm blue. Don't be. The project doesen't intend for end users to solve these sorts of problems, frankly. Return the laptop and get a different model which will probably work fine and consider it a learning experience. There's enough people within the Project that have contacts within HP that if a decently-written PR was filed, it could be quitely handled within HP. I must warn you though that unless a PR is filed, nobody is going to bother with a complaint on a mailing list. You can file a PR from any FreeBSD system you have. See the handbook for details. A PR also documents the problem so that other potential purchasers will know to avoid the problem model. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: All your laptops are belong to Windows.
Hello, Have a look at http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/ , I have not found your model, but perhaps you can take some hints from other HP laptops. Good Luck Ramiro ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: All your laptops are belong to Windows.
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of bsdnooby Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 11:33 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: All your laptops are belong to Windows. I'm defeated. The FreeBSD install gives no hints as to why it turns off my laptop. When I try to install FreeBSD, my brand new I'm blue.HP Pavilion laptop turns itself off. It does not matter if I use 4.x or 5.x, CD or floppies. There is no error log since it just shuts off after I choose to load a kernel. I have tried loading with ACPI off, and it does not help. I believe I tried all the kernel options available from the menu on 5.x. After reading that 4.X is killing it, my guess is that what's going on is that one of the device drivers compiled into the kernel that is for a piece of hardware that is NOT on your laptop is issuing a probe that is hitting a port that HP decided to use for something. If you really wanted to, and you have a system already running 5.X, it is possible to compile a custom kernel that has all device drivers stripped out of it, then put this kernel onto the first install floppy and do a floppy install of FreeBSD. Then make sure a copy of that kernel exists on the system when you reboot. This is a long and complicated procedure, unfortunately, If the laptop can do PXE-boot, it may be easier to build that custom-kernel for a PXE-install... Search for FreeBSD PXE install on Google. But I agree that it might be a better idea to get another laptop. I didn't have much problems with the FSC E8010, but it's not the cheapest and the power-management left something to be desired, I will retry it, though in the next weeks or months. Also, as the support for vmware4 on FreeBSD matures, it might also kill the only other reason for Linux on that thing ;-) If you want to keep a HP, try a NX 7010 and see if that works better. The Pavillion-series is really the low-end of the spectrum. cheers, Rainer -- === ~ Rainer Duffner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ ~ Freising - Munich - Germany ~ ~Unix - Linux - BSD - OpenSource - Security ~ ~ http://www.ultra-secure.de/~rainer/pubkey.pgp ~ === ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: All your laptops are belong to Windows.
I'm in a situation similar to you... I've just purchased a Medion SIM2000, it boots up but I've also some troubles with sound modem. Here the strange problem is that the sound card is a AC97 ALS (SiS7012) and it just outputs from headphone and the modem is a SiS7013 (Intel Winmodem) that isn't in the ports tree (while there is the LT winmodem). For the Video Card with some trick I was able to get a full 16:9 resolution like in windows but without DRI (this is an Xorg problem). Above all I'm almost surprised because I know the difficulty to work with a laptop unix. I've tried Fedora Core 3 Debian III but it gives me an error during boot (acpi error). So like a BSD users I feel above all lucky enough. The only suggestion I feel to give you is to wait the awake of 6.0 because it will have many changes in ACPI calls. I'm waiting too to have some tricks about my sound card :) bye Davide - Original Message - From: bsdnooby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 8:32 AM Subject: All your laptops are belong to Windows. I'm defeated. The FreeBSD install gives no hints as to why it turns off my laptop. When I try to install FreeBSD, my brand new I'm blue.HP Pavilion laptop turns itself off. It does not matter if I use 4.x or 5.x, CD or floppies. There is no error log since it just shuts off after I choose to load a kernel. I have tried loading with ACPI off, and it does not help. I believe I tried all the kernel options available from the menu on 5.x. The computer is a HP Pavilion zv5445us, with 512MB RAM, P4-3Ghz, 100GB HD, 15.4 Hi-Def Screen, 54G 802.11b WLAN. I purchased it from Best Buy. Under Windows, it appears Hyper-Threading is turned on, and I have not found a way to turn it off inside the CMOS. The machine runs Windows XP Pro fine, but I am trying to switch to FreeBSD on all my boxen. I was really surprised to find this one abruptly shutdown when trying to do the install. It turns off before the install really starts, so I do not have much information to solve this problem. The HD is never touched. I'm blue. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 2/10/2005 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: All your laptops are belong to Windows.
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:40:51 +0100, Davide Lemma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in a situation similar to you... I've just purchased a Medion SIM2000, it boots up but I've also some troubles with sound modem. Here the strange problem is that the sound card is a AC97 ALS (SiS7012) and it just outputs from headphone and the modem is a SiS7013 (Intel Winmodem) that isn't in the ports tree (while there is the LT winmodem). For the Video Card with some trick I was able to get a full 16:9 resolution like in windows but without DRI (this is an Xorg problem). Above all I'm almost surprised because I know the difficulty to work with a laptop unix. I've tried Fedora Core 3 Debian III but it gives me an error during boot (acpi error). So like a BSD users I feel above all lucky enough. The only suggestion I feel to give you is to wait the awake of 6.0 because it will have many changes in ACPI calls. I'm waiting too to have some tricks about my sound card :) bye Davide - Original Message - From: bsdnooby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 8:32 AM Subject: All your laptops are belong to Windows. I'm defeated. The FreeBSD install gives no hints as to why it turns off my laptop. When I try to install FreeBSD, my brand new I'm blue.HP Pavilion laptop turns itself off. It does not matter if I use 4.x or 5.x, CD or floppies. There is no error log since it just shuts off after I choose to load a kernel. I have tried loading with ACPI off, and it does not help. I believe I tried all the kernel options available from the menu on 5.x. The computer is a HP Pavilion zv5445us, with 512MB RAM, P4-3Ghz, 100GB HD, 15.4 Hi-Def Screen, 54G 802.11b WLAN. I purchased it from Best Buy. Under Windows, it appears Hyper-Threading is turned on, and I have not found a way to turn it off inside the CMOS. The machine runs Windows XP Pro fine, but I am trying to switch to FreeBSD on all my boxen. I was really surprised to find this one abruptly shutdown when trying to do the install. It turns off before the install really starts, so I do not have much information to solve this problem. The HD is never touched. I'm blue. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 2/10/2005 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have an HP or Compaq laptop, and you see this problem TRY the R3000Z patches. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: All your laptops are belong to Windows.
On 2005-02-15T01:06:58-0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: [ridiculous attribution from Outlook snipped] The computer is a HP Pavilion zv5445us, with 512MB RAM, P4-3Ghz, 100GB HD, 15.4 Hi-Def Screen, 54G 802.11b WLAN. I purchased it from Best Buy. Best Buy is fairly good at taking exchanges within 30 days. Their written policy kind of threatens a restocking charge of 15% on opened notebook computers - but the exception is if the item is defective. In your case you have a grey area, but if you were to take it back and tell them that the system is periodically shutting itself down and you want to exchange it for a different model because you don't have any confidence in the zv5445us, they wouldn't be able to verify this and you could probably talk your way out of the restock charge, PARTICULARLY if you bought the item on a credit card - since credit card issuers generally take a dim view of restock fees on consumer items. I have had a family member do this exact thing with a laptop he bought from there a few years ago. (it wasn't a FreeBSD thing, the laptop was just not very well made and he ended up buying a more expensive laptop from them) This is also particularly if you bring back ALL OF the original packing materials AND THE SOFTWARE particularly if it's unopened, and repack the laptop in it's box. Remember that Best Buy has to send the thing back to HP and if it breaks in transit and it wasn't in the factory cardboard, HP is going to charge Best Buy for the loss. If you return it to Best Buy and decide to pick up another laptop, bring a FreeSBIE disc with you, and maybe a Frenzy disc, to test the laptop before you buy it. I have done this a couple of times, and only once did someone even ask me what I was doing, and when I started to explain, their eyes glazed over and I just went back to testing. I ended up buying a Sager 4750V from discountlaptops.com and have been very happy, except for the first few days. The firewire controller has issues on this laptop, and 5.3-RELEASE puked when probing the fwohci. I used a Frenzy disc, which does NOT have firewire support in the kernel, and was able to boot it fine, whereas FreeSBIE (and any GENERIC FreeBSD) had firewire compiled into the install media kernel, causing me much heartache. If you are interested in more detail, check out... http://michael.gargantuan.com/sager_4750v/ HTH, have a good day. (I am not affiliated with discountlaptops.com, other than being a satisfied customer) -- Mike Oliver [see complete headers for contact information] pgpIc3s79mRHU.pgp Description: PGP signature
All your laptops are belong to Windows.
I'm defeated. The FreeBSD install gives no hints as to why it turns off my laptop. When I try to install FreeBSD, my brand new I'm blue.HP Pavilion laptop turns itself off. It does not matter if I use 4.x or 5.x, CD or floppies. There is no error log since it just shuts off after I choose to load a kernel. I have tried loading with ACPI off, and it does not help. I believe I tried all the kernel options available from the menu on 5.x. The computer is a HP Pavilion zv5445us, with 512MB RAM, P4-3Ghz, 100GB HD, 15.4 Hi-Def Screen, 54G 802.11b WLAN. I purchased it from Best Buy. Under Windows, it appears Hyper-Threading is turned on, and I have not found a way to turn it off inside the CMOS. The machine runs Windows XP Pro fine, but I am trying to switch to FreeBSD on all my boxen. I was really surprised to find this one abruptly shutdown when trying to do the install. It turns off before the install really starts, so I do not have much information to solve this problem. The HD is never touched. I'm blue. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 2/10/2005 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: All your laptops are belong to Windows.
Hi, bsdnooby wrote: I'm defeated. The FreeBSD install gives no hints as to why it turns off my laptop. FreeBSD's weakest point is the support for notebooks. I could get it running at least but it did not make real sense to keep it as the power management was to limited. I kept this machine as my only Windows machine to do support Windows programs. It is very often the case that notebook vendors do not give the support needed to adopt the drivers to make FreeBSD a success on those machines. Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WiFi PCMCIA or CardBus cards with Compaq Armada laptops?
When I upgraded from FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE (yeah - about a year old) to FreeBSD 5.2.1, my WiFi capability went away. I have tried my own LinkSys card and borrowed a friend's NETGEAR card with essentially the same problem (it's not 100% deterministic even with the same card, so it's hard to be 100% sure, but the big picture is sure the same). With either card, the system eventually locks up so hard that the only way to shut it down is to disconnect the battery - the power switch doesn't work. Sometimes I see a Fatal Trap 19 and panic: non-maskable interrupt in (while in kernel mode), and sometimes, it just locks up right after displaying the driver line - but it isn't useful in any case. I have reported this as a hardware bug through GNATS, but it seems like it would be something someone who have noticed between 5.2.1 and now, and I sure couldn't find any similar bug reports before turning in mine. I would really appreciate hearing from anyone who a) has a similar problem b) has a similar setup but does not have the problem. 802.11b cards are not expensive - I'd be quite willing to buy a new CardBus or PCMCIA card if I had a reasonable expectation of it not behaving in this way. Thanks! -- John Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptops as routers
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 03:20:39PM -0700, Paul Hoffman wrote: Greetings again. I'm looking to buy a couple of cheap old laptops to be used as temporary routers. They just need to be able to handle PCMCIA Ethernet cards, not much more (having an Ethernet connector on the motherboard is fine, of course.) I don't want to run XWindows, and I'm sure 64 MB and a 1gig hard drive would suffice. You may be better off with Soekris boxes, e.g. the net4801, which runs FreeBSD RELENG_5 just fine: http://www.soekris.com/ Are there any brands/models I should lean towards? Ones I should avoid? --Paul Hoffman Cheers, cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptops as routers
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 11:38:02PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote: Here is a better idea! Step 1: Go dumpster diving for old computers (Pentium 1 or better, 8MB IDE Storage Device or better, and a minimun of 48MB/Ram). Step 2: Grab some networks cards wail your in the dumpster. Step 3: Install said network cards into computers. Step 4: Install and configure m0n0wall on said computers. http://m0n0.ch/wall/ Step 5: Profit??? -- Total Cost: $0.00 Well, depending on your geographic location, you may want to consider power consumption as the main cost factor here. A Soekris box would consume something around 5-10 Watt or so on average. Compare this to even the slowest Pentium. Oh, and they are absolutely silent as well :-) -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptops as routers
* Robert Storey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [1036 04:36]: On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 01:12:19 +0200 Emanuel Strobl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Sonntag, 31. Oktober 2004 00:20 schrieb Paul Hoffman: Greetings again. I'm looking to buy a couple of cheap old laptops to be used as temporary routers. They just need to be able to handle PCMCIA Ethernet cards, not much more (having an Ethernet connector on the motherboard is fine, of course.) I don't want to run XWindows, and I'm sure 64 MB and a 1gig hard drive would suffice. Are there any brands/models I should lean towards? Ones I should avoid? Bad idea IMHO. I'd suggest having a look at http://www.soekris.com/ (net4501 for easiest requirements, better 4801, all in one extendable box) or if you Or else take a look at mini-ITX: http://www.via.com.tw/en/initiatives/spearhead/mini-itx/ Good things about laptops: 1. built in console 2. built in UPS - if there's a power cut the box just runs on its battery -- common sense is what tells you that the world is flat. - Principia Discordia Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptops as routers
At Sun, 31 Oct 2004 it looks like Emanuel Strobl composed: Am Sonntag, 31. Oktober 2004 00:20 schrieb Paul Hoffman: Greetings again. I'm looking to buy a couple of cheap old laptops to be used as temporary routers. They just need to be able to handle PCMCIA Ethernet cards, not much more (having an Ethernet connector on the motherboard is fine, of course.) I don't want to run XWindows, and I'm sure 64 MB and a 1gig hard drive would suffice. Are there any brands/models I should lean towards? Ones I should avoid? Bad idea IMHO. I'd suggest having a look at http://www.soekris.com/ (net4501 for easiest requirements, better 4801, all in one extendable box) or if you need just basic 586cpu-power without extendability and only (well designed) ethernet ports see: http://www.pcengines.ch/wrap.htm You can use any type of PC as terminal to operate these boxes vi the serial interface. Perhaps you already have any old vt100 terminal handy. But I don''t have an answer to your original question, sorry. Although I'd like to mention that old laptops often can't handle modern PC-CARDSs (CARDBUS), PCMCIA was 5v and 16 bit wide, very slow and really not sutable for routing purposes! I used to have a spare 486/dx4-100 laptop that I would use ONLY when I had to take my main machine off the grid here at home. It had the exact same ipaddr/settings as the main router/NAT machine did and it worked well. It was an old Toshiba that didn't even have a CDROM. It was that old. The thing about it was that it was brand new !! Nobody wanted to use it at my friends work so the IT guy just gave it to me. So I refer to it as my brand-new-low-mileage-1962-Ford-Falcon-laptop I would of course never have it on the net at the same time but kept the CAT5 cables just barely unsnapped at their points of entry to the network (DSL router and switch) so it would only take the time to boot it and snap in the CAT5's to be routing again. -- Bill Schoolcraft | Life's journey is not to arrive at the PO Box 210076 | grave safely in a well preserved body, San Francisco,CA 94121 | but rather to skid in sideways, totally http://billschoolcraft.com | spent, yelling holy shit, what a ride! ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptops as routers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 11:38:02PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote: Here is a better idea! Step 1: Go dumpster diving for old computers (Pentium 1 or better, 8MB IDE Storage Device or better, and a minimun of 48MB/Ram). Step 2: Grab some networks cards wail your in the dumpster. Step 3: Install said network cards into computers. Step 4: Install and configure m0n0wall on said computers. http://m0n0.ch/wall/ Step 5: Profit??? -- Total Cost: $0.00 Well, depending on your geographic location, you may want to consider power consumption as the main cost factor here. A Soekris box would consume something around 5-10 Watt or so on average. Compare this to even the slowest Pentium. Oh, and they are absolutely silent as well :-) -cpghost. The Soekris boxes are awesome, I'd LOVE to have one, But even with the power consumption, size, fanless arguments I still cannot justify the cost ($194 for a net4501-30 Board, Case, and PS) when I have old computers taking up space in my workshop. Money doesn't grow on trees in the world of small business. If you are worry about power consumption or reliability when using old computers I have some general tips for you: 1. Don't use a storage device that has spinning disks, instead use a CF card, Zip Drive/Disk, etc. http://www.cfide.co.uk/compact_flash_ide_adapters.shtml 2. Remove all non-essential components from the system (CD-Roms, Hard drives, floppy drives, add-in cards, etc) and disable in the BIOS anything that can't be removed (floppy controller, sound card, printer and serial ports, secondary IDE controller, etc.). 3. Underclock and/or mount a big heatsink onto the CPU so you can remove the cpu fan. 4. One 64MB stick of ram uses less power then two 32MB sticks, follow that logic. 5. Remove some or all case fans because, Heat Isn't an issue unless your cpu is like 400Mhz+, you will still have the power supply fan for cooling. CPU (at full load): 30 Watts Mainboard: 10 Watts RAM: 5 Watts 3 NIC: 15 Watts 1 Fan: 5 Watts The Unkown: 10 Watts --- Total: 75 Watt Light Bulb It will take me 3.98 years just to recoup the cost of the net4501. (g+a)/d/c = h = 34931 (3.98 years) a/d/c = e, be = f, fd = g a = net4501-30 Board, Case, and Power Supply = $194 b = power used by net4501 = 0.012kWh c = power used by oldcomp = 0.075kWh d = Price (residential) of 1kWh = $0.0859 http://www.midamericanenergy.com/html/aboutus2.asp e = Number of hours I can run the computer until I spend $194 (the price of the net4501) in power. f = How many kWh the net4501 will uses in the same amount of time that it takes me the spend $194 in power using the computer. g = The price of those kWh's the net4501 uses h = How long (in hours) it will take to recoup the cost of buying the net4501 instead of just using an old computer. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptops as routers
If you are worry about power consumption or reliability when using old computers I have some general tips for you: 1. Don't use a storage device that has spinning disks, instead use a CF card, Zip Drive/Disk, etc. http://www.cfide.co.uk/compact_flash_ide_adapters.shtml To go off on a bit of a tangent here, I find the idea of replacing hard drives with flash memory intriguing. When I first heard someone talk about doing this several years ago, the idea was quickly shot down by people saying that flash memory has a very short lifetime when you write to it. Even a system as minimal as a firewall will require frequent write operations if it does any logging at all. Has this limitation been overcome in recent years? Google isn't turning up any recent articles on this subject for me. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptops as routers
Luke wrote: If you are worry about power consumption or reliability when using old computers I have some general tips for you: 1. Don't use a storage device that has spinning disks, instead use a CF card, Zip Drive/Disk, etc. http://www.cfide.co.uk/compact_flash_ide_adapters.shtml To go off on a bit of a tangent here, I find the idea of replacing hard drives with flash memory intriguing. When I first heard someone talk about doing this several years ago, the idea was quickly shot down by people saying that flash memory has a very short lifetime when you write to it. Even a system as minimal as a firewall will require frequent write operations if it does any logging at all. Has this limitation been overcome in recent years? Google isn't turning up any recent articles on this subject for me. Yes and No, The problem is still there but when your dealing with an 8MB FreeBSD system (m0n0wall) all's you have to do is make a ram drive and copy the system to it. Then the only time you access the Flash device is at boot or when making changes to the config file, etc, this is how m0n0wall does it. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptops as routers
On Sunday 31 October 2004 21:54, Luke wrote: If you are worry about power consumption or reliability when using old computers I have some general tips for you: 1. Don't use a storage device that has spinning disks, instead use a CF card, Zip Drive/Disk, etc. http://www.cfide.co.uk/compact_flash_ide_adapters.shtml To go off on a bit of a tangent here, I find the idea of replacing hard drives with flash memory intriguing. When I first heard someone talk about doing this several years ago, the idea was quickly shot down by people saying that flash memory has a very short lifetime when you write to it. Even a system as minimal as a firewall will require frequent write operations if it does any logging at all. Has this limitation been overcome in recent years? Google isn't turning up any recent articles on this subject for me. I know that embedded OSs, like VxWorks, have dedicated flash filesystems that do wear-levelling. These filesystems avoid having special physical locations, and make sure all date is occasionally moved around to prevent the concentration of damage. I believe that some flash storage devices have this built in to the hardware nowdays. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptops as routers
On Sun, Oct 31, 2004 at 01:54:33PM -0800, Luke wrote: To go off on a bit of a tangent here, I find the idea of replacing hard drives with flash memory intriguing. When I first heard someone talk about doing this several years ago, the idea was quickly shot down by people saying that flash memory has a very short lifetime when you write to it. Even a system as minimal as a firewall will require frequent write operations if it does any logging at all. Has this limitation been overcome in recent years? Google isn't turning up any recent articles on this subject for me. No, the limited write cycles problem is still there, but not as bad as you might imagine. In most cases, all you need to do is to put /var and /tmp on a memory filesystem, and archive only compressed logs either to flash or to a remote server every now and then, thus greatly reducing the write access cycles to your flash card. But this is not always a useful solution (e.g. if you want to run an MTA like postfix which accesses the filesystem that holds the mail queues quite frequently). Sometimes, a 2.5 harddisk (I don't know about microdisks' durability) is your only recourse. Cheers, cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Laptops as routers
Greetings again. I'm looking to buy a couple of cheap old laptops to be used as temporary routers. They just need to be able to handle PCMCIA Ethernet cards, not much more (having an Ethernet connector on the motherboard is fine, of course.) I don't want to run XWindows, and I'm sure 64 MB and a 1gig hard drive would suffice. Are there any brands/models I should lean towards? Ones I should avoid? --Paul Hoffman ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptops as routers
Am Sonntag, 31. Oktober 2004 00:20 schrieb Paul Hoffman: Greetings again. I'm looking to buy a couple of cheap old laptops to be used as temporary routers. They just need to be able to handle PCMCIA Ethernet cards, not much more (having an Ethernet connector on the motherboard is fine, of course.) I don't want to run XWindows, and I'm sure 64 MB and a 1gig hard drive would suffice. Are there any brands/models I should lean towards? Ones I should avoid? Bad idea IMHO. I'd suggest having a look at http://www.soekris.com/ (net4501 for easiest requirements, better 4801, all in one extendable box) or if you need just basic 586cpu-power without extendability and only (well designed) ethernet ports see: http://www.pcengines.ch/wrap.htm You can use any type of PC as terminal to operate these boxes vi the serial interface. Perhaps you already have any old vt100 terminal handy. But I don''t have an answer to your original question, sorry. Although I'd like to mention that old laptops often can't handle modern PC-CARDSs (CARDBUS), PCMCIA was 5v and 16 bit wide, very slow and really not sutable for routing purposes! -Harry --Paul Hoffman ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpEGi9YLnLa1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Laptops as routers
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 01:12:19 +0200 Emanuel Strobl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Sonntag, 31. Oktober 2004 00:20 schrieb Paul Hoffman: Greetings again. I'm looking to buy a couple of cheap old laptops to be used as temporary routers. They just need to be able to handle PCMCIA Ethernet cards, not much more (having an Ethernet connector on the motherboard is fine, of course.) I don't want to run XWindows, and I'm sure 64 MB and a 1gig hard drive would suffice. Are there any brands/models I should lean towards? Ones I should avoid? Bad idea IMHO. I'd suggest having a look at http://www.soekris.com/ (net4501 for easiest requirements, better 4801, all in one extendable box) or if you Or else take a look at mini-ITX: http://www.via.com.tw/en/initiatives/spearhead/mini-itx/ regards, Robert ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptops as routers
Paul Hoffman wrote: Greetings again. I'm looking to buy a couple of cheap old laptops to be used as temporary routers. They just need to be able to handle PCMCIA Ethernet cards, not much more (having an Ethernet connector on the motherboard is fine, of course.) I don't want to run XWindows, and I'm sure 64 MB and a 1gig hard drive would suffice. Are there any brands/models I should lean towards? Ones I should avoid? --Paul Hoffman ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here is a better idea! Step 1: Go dumpster diving for old computers (Pentium 1 or better, 8MB IDE Storage Device or better, and a minimun of 48MB/Ram). Step 2: Grab some networks cards wail your in the dumpster. Step 3: Install said network cards into computers. Step 4: Install and configure m0n0wall on said computers. http://m0n0.ch/wall/ Step 5: Profit??? -- Total Cost: $0.00 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptops as routers
Oh... If you don't want to do the dumpster diving then you can get some good stuff here: http://www.retrobox.com/rbwww/home/search_results_pc_computers.asp?bin_id=worldpage=1Manufacturer_ID=CPU_ID=CPU_Speed_ID=RAM_ID=HD_Size_ID=CD_ROM_Flag=Price=order_by=price%5Fcurrent%5Fselling%5Fprice+asc Shipping Handling is $27.50 per unit though. Nikolas Britton wrote: Paul Hoffman wrote: Greetings again. I'm looking to buy a couple of cheap old laptops to be used as temporary routers. They just need to be able to handle PCMCIA Ethernet cards, not much more (having an Ethernet connector on the motherboard is fine, of course.) I don't want to run XWindows, and I'm sure 64 MB and a 1gig hard drive would suffice. Are there any brands/models I should lean towards? Ones I should avoid? --Paul Hoffman ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here is a better idea! Step 1: Go dumpster diving for old computers (Pentium 1 or better, 8MB IDE Storage Device or better, and a minimun of 48MB/Ram). Step 2: Grab some networks cards wail your in the dumpster. Step 3: Install said network cards into computers. Step 4: Install and configure m0n0wall on said computers. http://m0n0.ch/wall/ Step 5: Profit??? -- Total Cost: $0.00 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Laptops
I have a few PIII IBM and Toshiba laptops and was wondering about putting FreeBSD on them. I have installed several Linux versions on them (Caldera 2.4/3.1 - RH - SuSe - Mandrake) with minimum re-comps for functionality on the hardware. How does FreeBSD act on laptops any known issues? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptops
Many people run FreeBSD on laptops. This is the best link to get started: http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/ I run 5.2.1-RELEASE on an IBM T30. The only outstanding issues for me are: acpi (I just use apm) and the integrated Cisco Aironet Wireless (it worked with FreeBSD 4.9/10, but broke with 5.2.1 -- I went back to using my Orinoco PCMCIA wireless card, which works like a champ.) Good luck! Rick Montgomery wrote: I have a few PIII IBM and Toshiba laptops and was wondering about putting FreeBSD on them. I have installed several Linux versions on them (Caldera 2.4/3.1 - RH - SuSe - Mandrake) with minimum re-comps for functionality on the hardware. How does FreeBSD act on laptops any known issues? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Laptops
I just installed 5.3-RC1 on a Panasonic Toughbook (366 MHz PII) last night and things are working well. I haven't gotten a lot running yet but don't foresee any problems. The only gotcha is I had to re-compile the kernel to get my Proxim wireless card working (default kernel doesn't have Atheros support) but that was a matter of adding a couple of lines in my kernel's conf file and typing two commands. Good luck, Ben -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Montgomery Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 7:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Laptops I have a few PIII IBM and Toshiba laptops and was wondering about putting FreeBSD on them. I have installed several Linux versions on them (Caldera 2.4/3.1 - RH - SuSe - Mandrake) with minimum re-comps for functionality on the hardware. How does FreeBSD act on laptops any known issues? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A tunnel between two 5.2-CURRENT laptops with IPsec + racoon
Hello,
I'm trying to set up a tunnel between two laptops running 5.2-CURRENT,
connected with crossed cable, that have 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2
addresses respectively.
Here's how I configured the boxes:
[kernel on both]:
options IPSEC
options IPSEC_ESP
options IPSEC_DEBUG
[rc.conf on both]:
ipsec_enable=YES
[/etc/ipsec.conf on 192.168.1.1]:
flush;
spdflush;
spdadd 192.168.1.2/32 0.0.0.0/0 any -P in ipsec
esp/tunnel/192.168.1.2-192.168.1.1/require;
spdadd 0.0.0.0/0 192.168.1.2/32 any -P out ipsec
esp/tunnel/192.168.1.1-192.168.1.2/require;
[/etc/ipsec.conf on 192.168.1.2]:
flush;
spdflush;
spdadd 192.168.1.1/32 0.0.0.0/0 any -P in ipsec
esp/tunnel/192.168.1.1-192.168.1.2/require;
spdadd 0.0.0.0/0 192.168.1.1/32 any -P out ipsec
esp/tunnel/192.168.1.2-192.168.1.1/require;
I also installed the latest version of racoon from ports. Here's how the
configuration files look like:
[psk.txt on 192.168.1.1]:
192.168.1.2 mypassword
[psk.txt on 192.168.1.2]:
192.168.1.1 mypassword
[racoon.conf on both]:
path include /usr/local/etc/racoon ;
path pre_shared_key /usr/local/etc/racoon/psk.txt ;
path certificate /usr/local/etc/cert ;
#log debug;
padding
{
maximum_length 20; # maximum padding length.
randomize off; # enable randomize length.
strict_check off; # enable strict check.
exclusive_tail off; # extract last one octet.
}
listen
{
isakmp 192.168.1.1 [500]; # 192.168.1.2 on the second box
}
timer
{
counter 5; # maximum trying count to send.
interval 20 sec;# maximum interval to resend.
persend 1; # the number of packets per a send.
phase1 30 sec;
phase2 15 sec;
}
remote anonymous
{
exchange_mode aggressive,main;
doi ipsec_doi;
situation identity_only;
my_identifier address 192.168.1.1; # 192.168.1.2 on 2nd box
peers_identifier address 192.168.1.2; # 192.168.1.1 on 2nd box
nonce_size 16;
lifetime time 24 hour; # sec,min,hour
initial_contact on;
support_mip6 on;
proposal_check obey;# obey, strict or claim
proposal {
encryption_algorithm 3des;
hash_algorithm sha1;
authentication_method pre_shared_key ;
dh_group 2 ;
}
}
sainfo anonymous
{
pfs_group 1;
lifetime time 12 hour;
encryption_algorithm 3des ;
authentication_algorithm hmac_sha1;
compression_algorithm deflate ;
}
I run setkey -f /etc/ipsec.conf and start racoon -F -v on each box, and
try to ping one box from another. And that's where I'm stuck:
on 192.168.1.1:
# racoon -F -v
Foreground mode.
2004-05-18 18:36:43: INFO: main.c:172:main(): @(#)package version
freebsd-20040408a
2004-05-18 18:36:43: INFO: main.c:174:main(): @(#)internal version
20001216 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2004-05-18 18:36:43: INFO: main.c:175:main(): @(#)This product linked
OpenSSL 0.9.7d 17 Mar 2004 (http://www.openssl.org/)
2004-05-18 18:36:43: WARNING: cftoken.l:514:yywarn():
/usr/local/etc/racoon/racoon.conf:67: support_mip6 it is obsoleted.
use support_proxy.
2004-05-18 18:36:43: INFO: isakmp.c:1368:isakmp_open(): 192.168.1.1[500]
used as isakmp port (fd=5)
2004-05-18 18:36:53: INFO: isakmp.c:904:isakmp_ph1begin_r(): respond new
phase 1 negotiation: 192.168.1.1[500]=192.168.1.2[500]
2004-05-18 18:36:53: INFO: isakmp.c:909:isakmp_ph1begin_r(): begin
Aggressive mode.
2004-05-18 18:36:53: NOTIFY: oakley.c:2084:oakley_skeyid(): couldn't
find the proper pskey, try to get one by the peer's address.
2004-05-18 18:36:53: INFO: isakmp.c:2459:log_ph1established(): ISAKMP-SA
established 192.168.1.1[500]-192.168.1.2[500]
spi:c112917078329613:62ce70ffe54cfcda
2004-05-18 18:36:53: INFO: isakmp.c:1059:isakmp_ph2begin_r(): respond
new phase 2 negotiation: 192.168.1.1[0]=192.168.1.2[0]
2004-05-18 18:36:53: ERROR: isakmp_quick.c:2030:get_proposal_r(): no
policy found: 0.0.0.0/0[0] 192.168.1.1/32[0] proto=any dir=in
2004-05-18 18:36:53: ERROR: isakmp_quick.c:1071:quick_r1recv(): failed
to get proposal for responder.
2004-05-18 18:36:53: ERROR: isakmp.c:1073:isakmp_ph2begin_r(): failed to
pre-process packet.
I'd appreciate any pointers. Thanks in advance.
-Radek
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Re: A tunnel between two 5.2-CURRENT laptops with IPsec + racoon
Hi I've read that IPSEC on 5.2.1 has some few problems and some functions are even broken. you better dig a bit more or try -STABLE Jorge _ Do You Yahoo!? Información de Estados Unidos y América Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A tunnel between two 5.2-CURRENT laptops with IPsec + racoon
On 2004.05.18 19:08, Jorge Mario G. wrote: Hi I've read that IPSEC on 5.2.1 has some few problems and some functions are even broken. you better dig a bit more or try -STABLE OK, it doesn't work with FAST_IPSEC(4) either, so I guess I made some mistakes with the configuration. As previously, I'd appreciate any help. Thanks, -Radek ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Best X configurator for laptops?
Hi again. I have a Dell Inspiron 3500 laptop, now running 4.7. xf86cfg and xf86config both give (different) unusable results for my system. Which of the other X configurators in the ports collection seem to do a good job on laptops, if any? --Paul Hoffman ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best X configurator for laptops?
On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 07:59:59AM -0800, Paul Hoffman wrote: Hi again. I have a Dell Inspiron 3500 laptop, now running 4.7. xf86cfg and xf86config both give (different) unusable results for my system. Which of the other X configurators in the ports collection seem to do a good job on laptops, if any? --Paul Hoffman You need to be more specific about the problems you are encountering. What is the specific error you get when you try to launch X? What version of X are you running? I had an Inspiron 4000(?) running fine with X v3 a little over a year ago. The only specific I can remember is that I had to set the mouse protocol to BusMouse in order to get the touchpad to work properly. If you are using X version 4 you could try to generate a skeleton config file using `XFree86 -configure`. Nathan -- GPG Public Key ID: 0x4250A04C gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 4250A04C http://63.105.21.156/gpg_nkinkade_4250A04C.asc pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Best X configurator for laptops?
On Sunday, 30 March 2003 at 8:44:34 -0800, Paul Hoffman wrote: At 8:29 AM -0800 3/30/03, Nathan Kinkade wrote: On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 07:59:59AM -0800, Paul Hoffman wrote: Hi again. I have a Dell Inspiron 3500 laptop, now running 4.7. xf86cfg and xf86config both give (different) unusable results for my system. Which of the other X configurators in the ports collection seem to do a good job on laptops, if any? You need to be more specific about the problems you are encountering. I was trying to avoid that because it doesn't seem like this is a good place to debug particular XWindows problems. But, since you asked, the screen comes up blank. There are no XWindows errors, just a blank screen. Can you exit the screen again with ctrl-alt-backspace? There were some problems with certain chip sets a while back. When I got my Inspiron 7500, I had the same problem (well, as far as you describe it). They needed to update XFree86 to fix it. You might find it a good idea to install the latest version of XFree86 from the Ports Collection. Thus, my quest for a better configuration... You're jumping to conclusions that it's the configurator. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Best X configurator for laptops?
At 9:43 AM +0930 3/31/03, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: Thus, my quest for a better configuration... You're jumping to conclusions that it's the configurator. Turns out I wasn't. None of the configuration programs got me anywhere close. They either got the monitor wrong, the card wrong, the screen wrong, or a combination. I ended up cobbling it together from some advice for Linux, some other snippets and so on. In case anyone cares, the relevant hard parts of the XF86Config for (my/the) Inspiron 3500 are: Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 HorizSync31.5-48.5 VertRefresh 60 EndSection Section Device Identifier Card0 Driver neomagic VendorName Neomagic BoardName NM2200 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorMonitor0 DefaultDepth 16 SubSection Display Depth 16 Modes1024x768 EndSubSection EndSection ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best X configurator for laptops?
Quoting Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There were some problems with certain chip sets a while back. When I got my Inspiron 7500, I had the same problem (well, as far as you describe it). They needed to update XFree86 to fix it. You might find it a good idea to install the latest version of XFree86 from the Ports Collection. Well, I have a SONY Vaio laptop running XF 4.3.0 (and 4.2.1 before). I both time had to modify the config file to insert VertRefresh and HorizSync and also a modeline. Otherwise I would a 640x480 screen. -- Pierrick Brossin IT Swiss - QUARK Media House 6a Puits Godet, 2000 Neuchatel, Switzerland Mail Prof: pbrossin_AT_quark.ch Mail Priv: admin_AT_swissgeeks.com * Website: http://www.swissgeeks.com * ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptops w/ FreeBSD pre-loaded (somewhat OT)
On Sunday, December 29, 2002, at 04:00 PM, Scott Robbins wrote: On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 09:28:31PM -0500, John Bleichert wrote: Last year (when I wasn't in the market for a laptop) I found a site/manufacturer which sold Athlon- and Pentium-based laptops with Free/OpenBSD and/or Linux pre-installed. Now that I'm in the market I can't find the site to save my life. Has anybody seen such a site anywhere? I thought I found the site linked from freebsd.org but no luck. I know Walmart sells some laptops (or is it only desktops--don't have time to check at this instant) with some version of Linux installed. If you do find out, please post the site. Thanks -- Scott Robbins Scott, You would be referring to the bastardized linux thing called Lindows. We were interested in at work for a test and horked up the $99.00. What a waste! Mandrake 9.0 is a better desktop distro. It biggest selling point is that it's running Transmeta's CPU's and it's only $350.00 for their high end device. You'd be as well of with one of the mail stations since you'd at least get some support if something breaks. I know that the Sun reps at work all carry HP laptops loaded with Intel/Solaris. They have told me that they normally load with disks burned from the ISO's on their own web site (freely downloadable) with out any problems. This leads me to think that your odds of having unix drivers for the device available would be rather high. HTH, Jimi To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Laptops w/ FreeBSD pre-loaded (somewhat OT)
Check Linux Magazine or Linux Journal for ads, there's at least 3 different companies that sell Unix/Linux Laptops. I Think Rebel.com still sells some Sparc Laptops too. Adam Maas - Original Message - From: Jimi Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Scott Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 12:06 AM Subject: Re: Laptops w/ FreeBSD pre-loaded (somewhat OT) On Sunday, December 29, 2002, at 04:00 PM, Scott Robbins wrote: On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 09:28:31PM -0500, John Bleichert wrote: Last year (when I wasn't in the market for a laptop) I found a site/manufacturer which sold Athlon- and Pentium-based laptops with Free/OpenBSD and/or Linux pre-installed. Now that I'm in the market I can't find the site to save my life. Has anybody seen such a site anywhere? I thought I found the site linked from freebsd.org but no luck. I know Walmart sells some laptops (or is it only desktops--don't have time to check at this instant) with some version of Linux installed. If you do find out, please post the site. Thanks -- Scott Robbins Scott, You would be referring to the bastardized linux thing called Lindows. We were interested in at work for a test and horked up the $99.00. What a waste! Mandrake 9.0 is a better desktop distro. It biggest selling point is that it's running Transmeta's CPU's and it's only $350.00 for their high end device. You'd be as well of with one of the mail stations since you'd at least get some support if something breaks. I know that the Sun reps at work all carry HP laptops loaded with Intel/Solaris. They have told me that they normally load with disks burned from the ISO's on their own web site (freely downloadable) with out any problems. This leads me to think that your odds of having unix drivers for the device available would be rather high. HTH, Jimi To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Laptops w/ FreeBSD pre-loaded (somewhat OT)
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003 00:20:41 -0500 Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check Linux Magazine or Linux Journal for ads, there's at least 3 different companies that sell Unix/Linux Laptops. I Think Rebel.com still sells some Sparc Laptops too. Adam Maas Another one worth checking out is workstation2000, www.w2000.com. I have bought, for the company I work for, one of their laptops dual-boot w2k/redhat, they'll customize pretty much whatever you want. Their web site sucks, but the laptop is rock solid. The sales rep has called to check up on it several times since I bought a few months ago. My company plans on buying more from them this year. -- Chip - Original Message - From: Jimi Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Scott Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 12:06 AM Subject: Re: Laptops w/ FreeBSD pre-loaded (somewhat OT) On Sunday, December 29, 2002, at 04:00 PM, Scott Robbins wrote: On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 09:28:31PM -0500, John Bleichert wrote: Last year (when I wasn't in the market for a laptop) I found a site/manufacturer which sold Athlon- and Pentium-based laptops with Free/OpenBSD and/or Linux pre-installed. Now that I'm in the market I can't find the site to save my life. Has anybody seen such a site anywhere? I thought I found the site linked from freebsd.org but no luck. I know Walmart sells some laptops (or is it only desktops--don't have time to check at this instant) with some version of Linux installed. If you do find out, please post the site. Thanks -- Scott Robbins Scott, You would be referring to the bastardized linux thing called Lindows. We were interested in at work for a test and horked up the $99.00. What a waste! Mandrake 9.0 is a better desktop distro. It biggest selling point is that it's running Transmeta's CPU's and it's only$350.00 for their high end device. You'd be as well of with one of the mail stations since you'd at least get some support if something breaks. I know that the Sun reps at work all carry HP laptops loaded with Intel/Solaris. They have told me that they normally load with disks burned from the ISO's on their own web site (freely downloadable) with out any problems. This leads me to think that your odds of having unix drivers for the device available would be rather high. HTH, Jimi To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Laptops w/ FreeBSD pre-loaded (somewhat OT)
On Monday 30 December 2002 03:28, John Bleichert wrote: Last year (when I wasn't in the market for a laptop) I found a site/manufacturer which sold Athlon- and Pentium-based laptops with Free/OpenBSD and/or Linux pre-installed. Now that I'm in the market I can't find the site to save my life. Has anybody seen such a site anywhere? I thought I found the site linked from freebsd.org but no luck. Thanks - JB # John Bleichert # http://vonbek.dhs.org/latest.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message A few months ago I came across one site on ebay. www.internetishop.com They sell desknote computers (=laptop w/o batteries) with a version of Linux installed. I think it's called 'ThizLinux'. It may be worth checking out. All the Best Eddie Winkler To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
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On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 09:28:31PM -0500, John Bleichert wrote: Last year (when I wasn't in the market for a laptop) I found a site/manufacturer which sold Athlon- and Pentium-based laptops with Free/OpenBSD and/or Linux pre-installed. Now that I'm in the market I can't find the site to save my life. Has anybody seen such a site anywhere? I thought I found the site linked from freebsd.org but no luck. I know Walmart sells some laptops (or is it only desktops--don't have time to check at this instant) with some version of Linux installed. If you do find out, please post the site. Thanks -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 D575 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Drusilla: Your face is a poem. I can read it. Xander: It doesn't say 'spare me' by any chance? msg13646/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Laptops FreeBSD?
Steve (CK) wrote: My first thought was an iBook or TiBook running OS X but the prohibitive cost has me second-guessing that option. Maybe if the new IBM PPC chips were to be introduced before next fall in the iBook I would take this option but the speed and cost issue makes me not want to do this. I think you may be making too much of the speed and cost issues: an 800 MHz efficient laptop that lets you run an Open Source UNIX and all the popular desktop apps without dual-booting, all for $999, is hard to beat. I have a 600 MHZ thinkpad that cost almost 3 times that and the only time I need the horsepower or could use more is for portupgrades and compiles. That CPU is more than adequate for my typing speed. I want to make sure it can run FreeBSD well, is somewhat light-weight, powerful, large screen, good wide keyboard (for my bad wrists), and isn't crippled by manufacturer's bias towards Win* systems (like Dell). Intel or AMD processors are both cool; they're both local companies for me. :) Thanks and i'm very sorry if this isn't the correct list for this. You could try the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. -- Paul Beard / 8040 27th Ave NE / Seattle WA 98115 / paulbeard [at] mac [ dot] com / 206 529 8400 weblog @ http://paulbeard.no-ip.org/movabletype/ Washington [D.C.] is a city of Southern efficiency and Northern charm. -- John F. Kennedy To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Laptops FreeBSD?
On Thursday, Nov 7, 2002, at 23:35 US/Pacific, Steve (CK) wrote: My first thought was an iBook or TiBook running OS X but the prohibitive cost has me second-guessing that option. Maybe if the new IBM PPC chips were to be introduced before next fall in the iBook I would take this option but the speed and cost issue makes me not want to do this. ??? Have you looked at the Apple store with educational discount? You can get a very nice 800MHz iBook with 14 display for an excellent price. OS X makes a superb laptop OS - the power management is great, you can run Office.X if you need the compatibility, Virtual PC pretty much takes care of the dual-boot issue, and to connect to Windows machines Microsoft has released a very nice Remote Desktop Client. KeS To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
