Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 12:01:48PM -0500, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: yOn Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Erik Trulsson wrote: On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 05:24:26AM -0500, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, John Nielsen wrote: Apologies for top-posting. I've made some progress with this, but as I suspected, I'm screwed on namespace collision. I.e. I am unable to load a version of twa.ko that supports my 3ware card because a previous version of twa.ko that does not support it is already in the generic kernel. Changing the name of the loadable doesn't help, either. It looks like I might have to make my own release, and my own ISO, using the driver source from the 3ware site. Does anyone have an easier way of doing this? Might some of the following information from 3ware be of help? http://www.3ware.com/KB/article.aspx?id=15003 This details exactly what I need to do. However, the drivers that SHOULD be attached to the article are NOT. No, they were not. The people at 3ware seem to have noticed that mistake however and now the attachments seem to actually be attached to that article. -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, Erik Trulsson wrote: On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 12:01:48PM -0500, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: yOn Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Erik Trulsson wrote: On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 05:24:26AM -0500, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, John Nielsen wrote: Apologies for top-posting. I've made some progress with this, but as I suspected, I'm screwed on namespace collision. I.e. I am unable to load a version of twa.ko that supports my 3ware card because a previous version of twa.ko that does not support it is already in the generic kernel. Changing the name of the loadable doesn't help, either. It looks like I might have to make my own release, and my own ISO, using the driver source from the 3ware site. Does anyone have an easier way of doing this? Might some of the following information from 3ware be of help? http://www.3ware.com/KB/article.aspx?id=15003 This details exactly what I need to do. However, the drivers that SHOULD be attached to the article are NOT. No, they were not. The people at 3ware seem to have noticed that mistake however and now the attachments seem to actually be attached to that article. Yes, I also need to state for the record that their support people are incredibly knowledgeable and responsive. I'm up and running now (thought I wasn't for a bit because the card takes a few MINUTES to probe during boot). What is the likelyness (read that as: who would I have to ask) of getting the driver source added to 6.2-R, or to CURRENT? While this has been an overall good experience for me, it would be decidedly nice if I could have just booted from the CD and run with it. -Dan -- No mowore webooting!!! -Paul, 10-16-99, 10 PM Dan Mahoney Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?
yOn Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Erik Trulsson wrote: On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 05:24:26AM -0500, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, John Nielsen wrote: Apologies for top-posting. I've made some progress with this, but as I suspected, I'm screwed on namespace collision. I.e. I am unable to load a version of twa.ko that supports my 3ware card because a previous version of twa.ko that does not support it is already in the generic kernel. Changing the name of the loadable doesn't help, either. It looks like I might have to make my own release, and my own ISO, using the driver source from the 3ware site. Does anyone have an easier way of doing this? Might some of the following information from 3ware be of help? http://www.3ware.com/KB/article.aspx?id=15003 This details exactly what I need to do. However, the drivers that SHOULD be attached to the article are NOT. -Dan Mahoney -- GO HOME AND COOK!!! Donielle Cocossa, Taco Bell, 2:30 AM Dan Mahoney Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Peter Giessel wrote: On Wednesday, January 10, 2007, at 01:22AM, Dan Mahoney, System Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am unable to load a version of twa.ko that supports my 3ware card because a previous version of twa.ko that does not support it is already in the generic kernel. Changing the name of the loadable doesn't help, either. P.S. 6.1 on AMD64 and i386 supports the 9550: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.1R/relnotes-amd64.html http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.1R/relnotes-i386.html http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=twasektion=4manpath=FreeBSD+6.1-RELEASE Yeah, this is the 9650SE. I've emailed Scott Long to ask about its inclustion. No reply thusfar. -Dan -- One...plus two...plus one...plus one. -Tim Curry, Clue Dan Mahoney Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?
On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, John Nielsen wrote: Apologies for top-posting. I've made some progress with this, but as I suspected, I'm screwed on namespace collision. I.e. I am unable to load a version of twa.ko that supports my 3ware card because a previous version of twa.ko that does not support it is already in the generic kernel. Changing the name of the loadable doesn't help, either. It looks like I might have to make my own release, and my own ISO, using the driver source from the 3ware site. Does anyone have an easier way of doing this? I've already emailed Scott Long asking about the possibility of the inclusion of the new twa driver in the next FreeBSD, but I fear we're too far down the release process, so it could be a YEAR before there's a RELEASE that supports it. -Dan You were on the right track with the emergency shell, but the Fixit mode (now included on disk 1 for your convenience) gives you a lot more flexibility (inclusion of ls is just the start!). Have you tried something like this? 1) Boot to complete install CD 2) Go into Fixit mode (not just the emergency shell) 3) # sysctl kern.module_path=/dist/boot/kernel 4) # kldload twa 5) # exit 6) proceed with installation This shouldn't be necessary though, since twa is included in GENERIC for both FreeBSD 6.1 and 6.2 (did you say what version you were trying to install?). Now, if your controller is too new to be included in the shipping version of twa then that's another matter. If you have a binary kernel module that uses a different driver name from the vendor you could use the same general approach, but you'd want to configure your network interface and set up your NFS mount prior to step 3, and include the appropriate NFS path in the sysctl command in step 3. Forgot to mention you'd also need to manually copy the vendor driver and modify /boot/loader.conf on the newly installed system so it could actually boot.. you could easily take care of that from the fixit mode shell after the installation, though. -- And, a special guest, from the future, miss Ria Pischell. Miss Pischell, as you all know, is the inventor of the Statiophonic Oxygenetic Amplifiagraphaphonadelaverberator, and it's pretty hard to imagine life without one of those. -Rufus, Bill Ted's Bogus Journey Dan Mahoney Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 05:24:26AM -0500, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, John Nielsen wrote: Apologies for top-posting. I've made some progress with this, but as I suspected, I'm screwed on namespace collision. I.e. I am unable to load a version of twa.ko that supports my 3ware card because a previous version of twa.ko that does not support it is already in the generic kernel. Changing the name of the loadable doesn't help, either. It looks like I might have to make my own release, and my own ISO, using the driver source from the 3ware site. Does anyone have an easier way of doing this? Might some of the following information from 3ware be of help? http://www.3ware.com/KB/article.aspx?id=15003 http://www.3ware.com/KB/article.aspx?id=14850 I've already emailed Scott Long asking about the possibility of the inclusion of the new twa driver in the next FreeBSD, but I fear we're too far down the release process, so it could be a YEAR before there's a RELEASE that supports it. -Dan You were on the right track with the emergency shell, but the Fixit mode (now included on disk 1 for your convenience) gives you a lot more flexibility (inclusion of ls is just the start!). Have you tried something like this? 1) Boot to complete install CD 2) Go into Fixit mode (not just the emergency shell) 3) # sysctl kern.module_path=/dist/boot/kernel 4) # kldload twa 5) # exit 6) proceed with installation This shouldn't be necessary though, since twa is included in GENERIC for both FreeBSD 6.1 and 6.2 (did you say what version you were trying to install?). Now, if your controller is too new to be included in the shipping version of twa then that's another matter. If you have a binary kernel module that uses a different driver name from the vendor you could use the same general approach, but you'd want to configure your network interface and set up your NFS mount prior to step 3, and include the appropriate NFS path in the sysctl command in step 3. Forgot to mention you'd also need to manually copy the vendor driver and modify /boot/loader.conf on the newly installed system so it could actually boot.. you could easily take care of that from the fixit mode shell after the installation, though. -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Erik Trulsson wrote: On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 05:24:26AM -0500, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, John Nielsen wrote: Apologies for top-posting. I've made some progress with this, but as I suspected, I'm screwed on namespace collision. I.e. I am unable to load a version of twa.ko that supports my 3ware card because a previous version of twa.ko that does not support it is already in the generic kernel. Changing the name of the loadable doesn't help, either. It looks like I might have to make my own release, and my own ISO, using the driver source from the 3ware site. Does anyone have an easier way of doing this? Might some of the following information from 3ware be of help? http://www.3ware.com/KB/article.aspx?id=15003 http://www.3ware.com/KB/article.aspx?id=14850 I saw (and tried) an earlier version of these instructions, basically the issue was that I couldn't LOAD a module because said module was already in the kernel. In this case I don't think such a module is so it might work better, not 100 percent sure. Well, I'll have to modify them somewhat -- no floppy support here (lame, I know), but perhaps it'll work, I'll give it a try tomorrow. Thanks for the tip. -Dan I've already emailed Scott Long asking about the possibility of the inclusion of the new twa driver in the next FreeBSD, but I fear we're too far down the release process, so it could be a YEAR before there's a RELEASE that supports it. -Dan You were on the right track with the emergency shell, but the Fixit mode (now included on disk 1 for your convenience) gives you a lot more flexibility (inclusion of ls is just the start!). Have you tried something like this? 1) Boot to complete install CD 2) Go into Fixit mode (not just the emergency shell) 3) # sysctl kern.module_path=/dist/boot/kernel 4) # kldload twa 5) # exit 6) proceed with installation This shouldn't be necessary though, since twa is included in GENERIC for both FreeBSD 6.1 and 6.2 (did you say what version you were trying to install?). Now, if your controller is too new to be included in the shipping version of twa then that's another matter. If you have a binary kernel module that uses a different driver name from the vendor you could use the same general approach, but you'd want to configure your network interface and set up your NFS mount prior to step 3, and include the appropriate NFS path in the sysctl command in step 3. Forgot to mention you'd also need to manually copy the vendor driver and modify /boot/loader.conf on the newly installed system so it could actually boot.. you could easily take care of that from the fixit mode shell after the installation, though. -- I'll commit ritual suicide before I whore myself out to Disney. --Emi Bryant April 26, 2004 On the animation industry Dan Mahoney Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Dimitar Vasilev wrote: Dan, comment out the twa lines in the kernel. Rebuild it and include the new modules. should be easy. the module in the kernel it's conflicting with is on an INSTALL CD. But I don't think I'll have the namespace conflicts with the NEW module. -Dan -- It's like GTA, except you pay for it, and you're allowed to use the car. -Josh, on Zipcar on-demand car-rental, 3/20/05 Dan Mahoney Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?
Dan, comment out the twa lines in the kernel. Rebuild it and include the new modules. should be easy. -- Димитър Василев Dimitar Vassilev GnuPG key ID: 0x4B8DB525 Keyserver: pgp.mit.edu Key fingerprint: D88A 3B92 DED5 917E 341E D62F 8C51 5FC4 4B8D B525 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Peter Giessel wrote: On Wednesday, January 10, 2007, at 01:22AM, Dan Mahoney, System Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am unable to load a version of twa.ko that supports my 3ware card because a previous version of twa.ko that does not support it is already in the generic kernel. Changing the name of the loadable doesn't help, either. P.S. 6.1 on AMD64 and i386 supports the 9550: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.1R/relnotes-amd64.html http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.1R/relnotes-i386.html http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=twasektion=4manpath=FreeBSD+6.1-RELEASE It's the 9650SE I'm having trouble with, as I realized. -Dan -- I can feel it, comin' back again...Like a rolling thunder chasin' the wind... -Dan Mahoney, JS, JB SL, May 10th, 1997, Approx 1AM Dan Mahoney Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?
On Wednesday, January 10, 2007, at 01:22AM, Dan Mahoney, System Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am unable to load a version of twa.ko that supports my 3ware card because a previous version of twa.ko that does not support it is already in the generic kernel. Changing the name of the loadable doesn't help, either. P.S. 6.1 on AMD64 and i386 supports the 9550: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.1R/relnotes-amd64.html http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.1R/relnotes-i386.html http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=twasektion=4manpath=FreeBSD+6.1-RELEASE ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?
On Wednesday, January 10, 2007, at 01:22AM, Dan Mahoney, System Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, John Nielsen wrote: Apologies for top-posting. I've made some progress with this, but as I suspected, I'm screwed on namespace collision. I.e. I am unable to load a version of twa.ko that supports my 3ware card because a previous version of twa.ko that does not support it is already in the generic kernel. Changing the name of the loadable doesn't help, either. It looks like I might have to make my own release, and my own ISO, using the driver source from the 3ware site. Does anyone have an easier way of doing this? I've already emailed Scott Long asking about the possibility of the inclusion of the new twa driver in the next FreeBSD, but I fear we're too far down the release process, so it could be a YEAR before there's a RELEASE that supports it. When I was dealing with this issue on my own server, the solution I used (which may or may not work for you) is that I took a cheep old IDE drive and plugged it into the built in IDE controller on my motherboard. I installed to and booted off this drive, installed the updated .ko to the IDE drive's installation. Now the 9550's arrays showed up, so I used dump/restore to move the working installation onto the 9550's partitions, shutdown, pulled the IDE drive out, and booted off the 9550's partitions and all was well. Like I say, it may or may not work for you depending on if you have an IDE controller someplace or an empty PCI slot that you could use to set things up with. hth. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?
Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: Hey all, I have a new system with NO FLOPPY CONTROLLER and a 3ware 9550 card. It's a 1u system -- sticking extra things into PCI slots as a workaround is likely to be impossible. I don't think you need a driver - it's already there. apropos 3ware twa(4)- 3ware 9000/9500/9550 series SATA RAID controllers driver twe(4)- 3ware 5000/6000/7000/8000 series PATA/SATA RAID adapter driver ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?
I have a new system with NO FLOPPY CONTROLLER and a 3ware 9550 card. It's a 1u system -- sticking extra things into PCI slots as a workaround is likely to be impossible. Any possibility of using a USB floppy drive? 3) Adding the kldload command to the emergency holographic shell (I was able to do an NFS mount from within it, but had no way to load the driver). Maybe put kldload on that NFS mount along with the module to be loaded, and run it from there? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?
On Wednesday 03 January 2007 01:56, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: Hey all, I have a new system with NO FLOPPY CONTROLLER and a 3ware 9550 card. It's a 1u system -- sticking extra things into PCI slots as a workaround is likely to be impossible. I found this document on how to get it installed, in theory: http://www.3ware.com/kb/article.aspx?id=14850 But with no floppy, this is probably going to involve either transplanting the card (and drive array) to another machine JUST to do the install (translated: a serious pain in the ass). If someone could explain why any of the following aren't possible, I'd love to know: 1) Making this driver part of the boot-time probe. I can understand not including every SOUND CARD and MULTI-PORT SERIAL CARD in the generic kernel, but could we at least include the rest of the STORAGE modules? 2) Giving the ability to load a kernel module from somewhere else (an http/ftp url, maybe?) 3) Adding the kldload command to the emergency holographic shell (I was able to do an NFS mount from within it, but had no way to load the driver). 4) Allowing non-standard modules to reside on the CD, instead of loading from floppy (i.e. I see there's a twa module in the base system, why aren't the .ko's sitting around easily-accessible for sysinstall?) If I'm missing some really obvious way of doing this, please let me know. Thanks, Dan Mahoney -- Long live little fat girls! -Recent Taco Bell Ad Slogan, Literally Translated. (Viva Gorditas) Dan Mahoney Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --- when worst come to worst, i keep a usb floppy drive aroud for just those kinds of situations. good luck, jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?
On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a new system with NO FLOPPY CONTROLLER and a 3ware 9550 card. It's a 1u system -- sticking extra things into PCI slots as a workaround is likely to be impossible. Any possibility of using a USB floppy drive? Will the BSD installer recognize a USB floppy drive? 3) Adding the kldload command to the emergency holographic shell (I was able to do an NFS mount from within it, but had no way to load the driver). Maybe put kldload on that NFS mount along with the module to be loaded, and run it from there? I had considered that, but feared hitting version issues. Obviously sysinstall needs both mount and kldload functionality -- why aren't they in the emergency shell (For that matter, why isn't ls?) If this many years later we're still emulating floppies, there's a problem, folks. -Dan -- A mother can be an inspiration to her little son, change his thoughts, his mind, his life, just with her gentle hum. -No Doubt, Different People, from Tragic Kingdom Dan Mahoney Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?
Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a new system with NO FLOPPY CONTROLLER and a 3ware 9550 card. It's a 1u system -- sticking extra things into PCI slots as a workaround is likely to be impossible. Any possibility of using a USB floppy drive? Will the BSD installer recognize a USB floppy drive? 3) Adding the kldload command to the emergency holographic shell (I was able to do an NFS mount from within it, but had no way to load the driver). Maybe put kldload on that NFS mount along with the module to be loaded, and run it from there? I had considered that, but feared hitting version issues. Obviously sysinstall needs both mount and kldload functionality -- why aren't they in the emergency shell (For that matter, why isn't ls?) If this many years later we're still emulating floppies, there's a problem, folks. -Dan Dan: If this many years later we're still emulating floppies. Hey, it works for Slackware :-) You reminded me of the following article which stated (in 2004) that sysinstall was semioffically at end of life? -Bob- http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/why.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?
On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: Hey all, I have a new system with NO FLOPPY CONTROLLER and a 3ware 9550 card. It's a 1u system -- sticking extra things into PCI slots as a workaround is likely to be impossible. I don't think you need a driver - it's already there. apropos 3ware twa(4)- 3ware 9000/9500/9550 series SATA RAID controllers driver twe(4)- 3ware 5000/6000/7000/8000 series PATA/SATA RAID adapter driver Oh I'm sorry, then why didn't I just install the OS? Because it said no drives found! The card doesn't probe at boot, and there's an elaborate howto on 3ware's site that describes HOW to get it to probe at boot. While I myself stated that the driver DOES appear to be in the base, for whatever reason the kernel on the install CD doesn't include it, nor the ability to kldload a module from anyplace easy. -Dan -- SOY BOMB! -The Chest of the nameless streaker of the 1998 Grammy Awards' Bob Dylan Performance. Dan Mahoney Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?
On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, Tom Judge wrote: Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: Hi Dan, I have installed FreeBSD on several systems with 9550 controllers. The driver is available in sysinstall from 6.1 Release. (I installed from a 6.1 Release CD) This was the 9650, actually. -Dan -- It would be bad. -Egon Spengler, Ghostbusters Dan Mahoney Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?
Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: Hey all, I have a new system with NO FLOPPY CONTROLLER and a 3ware 9550 card. It's a 1u system -- sticking extra things into PCI slots as a workaround is likely to be impossible. I found this document on how to get it installed, in theory: http://www.3ware.com/kb/article.aspx?id=14850 But with no floppy, this is probably going to involve either transplanting the card (and drive array) to another machine JUST to do the install (translated: a serious pain in the ass). If someone could explain why any of the following aren't possible, I'd love to know: 1) Making this driver part of the boot-time probe. I can understand not including every SOUND CARD and MULTI-PORT SERIAL CARD in the generic kernel, but could we at least include the rest of the STORAGE modules? 2) Giving the ability to load a kernel module from somewhere else (an http/ftp url, maybe?) 3) Adding the kldload command to the emergency holographic shell (I was able to do an NFS mount from within it, but had no way to load the driver). 4) Allowing non-standard modules to reside on the CD, instead of loading from floppy (i.e. I see there's a twa module in the base system, why aren't the .ko's sitting around easily-accessible for sysinstall?) If I'm missing some really obvious way of doing this, please let me know. Hi Dan, I have installed FreeBSD on several systems with 9550 controllers. The driver is available in sysinstall from 6.1 Release. (I installed from a 6.1 Release CD) Hope that helps Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?
On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, John Nielsen wrote: 1) Boot to complete install CD 2) Go into Fixit mode (not just the emergency shell) 3) # sysctl kern.module_path=/dist/boot/kernel 4) # kldload twa 5) # exit 6) proceed with installation This shouldn't be necessary though, since twa is included in GENERIC for both FreeBSD 6.1 and 6.2 (did you say what version you were trying to install?). Now, if your controller is too new to be included in the shipping version of twa then that's another matter. If you have a binary kernel module that uses a different driver name from the vendor you could use the same general approach, but you'd want to configure your network interface and set up your NFS mount prior to step 3, and include the appropriate NFS path in the sysctl command in step 3. This is the case. I've emailed the folks in charge so that the new version of the 3ware drivers can be included in newer versions of FreeBSD. Forgot to mention you'd also need to manually copy the vendor driver and modify /boot/loader.conf on the newly installed system so it could actually boot.. you could easily take care of that from the fixit mode shell after the installation, though. Yup. In the case of a module name collision, is it safe to rename my module so that subsequent system builds won't overwrite it (i.e. rename if from twa.ko to twa2.ko) or will that break something?) -Dan -- Station! -Bill Ted's Bogus Journey Dan Mahoney Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?
On Wednesday 03 January 2007 14:18, John Nielsen wrote: On Wednesday 03 January 2007 12:34, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: Hey all, I have a new system with NO FLOPPY CONTROLLER and a 3ware 9550 card. It's a 1u system -- sticking extra things into PCI slots as a workaround is likely to be impossible. I don't think you need a driver - it's already there. apropos 3ware twa(4)- 3ware 9000/9500/9550 series SATA RAID controllers driver twe(4)- 3ware 5000/6000/7000/8000 series PATA/SATA RAID adapter driver Oh I'm sorry, then why didn't I just install the OS? Because it said no drives found! The card doesn't probe at boot, and there's an elaborate howto on 3ware's site that describes HOW to get it to probe at boot. While I myself stated that the driver DOES appear to be in the base, for whatever reason the kernel on the install CD doesn't include it, nor the ability to kldload a module from anyplace easy. You were on the right track with the emergency shell, but the Fixit mode (now included on disk 1 for your convenience) gives you a lot more flexibility (inclusion of ls is just the start!). Have you tried something like this? 1) Boot to complete install CD 2) Go into Fixit mode (not just the emergency shell) 3) # sysctl kern.module_path=/dist/boot/kernel 4) # kldload twa 5) # exit 6) proceed with installation This shouldn't be necessary though, since twa is included in GENERIC for both FreeBSD 6.1 and 6.2 (did you say what version you were trying to install?). Now, if your controller is too new to be included in the shipping version of twa then that's another matter. If you have a binary kernel module that uses a different driver name from the vendor you could use the same general approach, but you'd want to configure your network interface and set up your NFS mount prior to step 3, and include the appropriate NFS path in the sysctl command in step 3. Forgot to mention you'd also need to manually copy the vendor driver and modify /boot/loader.conf on the newly installed system so it could actually boot.. you could easily take care of that from the fixit mode shell after the installation, though. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?
On Wednesday 03 January 2007 12:34, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: Hey all, I have a new system with NO FLOPPY CONTROLLER and a 3ware 9550 card. It's a 1u system -- sticking extra things into PCI slots as a workaround is likely to be impossible. I don't think you need a driver - it's already there. apropos 3ware twa(4)- 3ware 9000/9500/9550 series SATA RAID controllers driver twe(4)- 3ware 5000/6000/7000/8000 series PATA/SATA RAID adapter driver Oh I'm sorry, then why didn't I just install the OS? Because it said no drives found! The card doesn't probe at boot, and there's an elaborate howto on 3ware's site that describes HOW to get it to probe at boot. While I myself stated that the driver DOES appear to be in the base, for whatever reason the kernel on the install CD doesn't include it, nor the ability to kldload a module from anyplace easy. You were on the right track with the emergency shell, but the Fixit mode (now included on disk 1 for your convenience) gives you a lot more flexibility (inclusion of ls is just the start!). Have you tried something like this? 1) Boot to complete install CD 2) Go into Fixit mode (not just the emergency shell) 3) # sysctl kern.module_path=/dist/boot/kernel 4) # kldload twa 5) # exit 6) proceed with installation This shouldn't be necessary though, since twa is included in GENERIC for both FreeBSD 6.1 and 6.2 (did you say what version you were trying to install?). Now, if your controller is too new to be included in the shipping version of twa then that's another matter. If you have a binary kernel module that uses a different driver name from the vendor you could use the same general approach, but you'd want to configure your network interface and set up your NFS mount prior to step 3, and include the appropriate NFS path in the sysctl command in step 3. HTH, JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?
On Wed, 3 Jan 2007 02:56:40 -0500 (EST), in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote: 4) Allowing non-standard modules to reside on the CD, instead of loading from floppy (i.e. I see there's a twa module in the base system, why aren't the .ko's sitting around easily-accessible for sysinstall?) If I'm missing some really obvious way of doing this, please let me know. What version of FreeBSD are you trying to install ? I thought 6.2RC2 would work with this controller HARDWARE The twa driver supports the following SATA RAID controllers: o AMCC's 3ware 9500S-4LP o AMCC's 3ware 9500S-8 o AMCC's 3ware 9500S-8MI o AMCC's 3ware 9500S-12 o AMCC's 3ware 9500S-12MI o AMCC's 3ware 9500SX-4LP o AMCC's 3ware 9500SX-8LP o AMCC's 3ware 9500SX-12 o AMCC's 3ware 9500SX-12MI o AMCC's 3ware 9500SX-16ML o AMCC's 3ware 9550SX-4LP o AMCC's 3ware 9550SX-8LP o AMCC's 3ware 9550SX-12 o AMCC's 3ware 9550SX-12MI o AMCC's 3ware 9550SX-16ML I am running with da0 at twa0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: AMCC 9550SX-4LP DISK 3.01 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 100.000MB/s transfers da0: 152566MB (312455168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 19449C) ---Mike Mike Tancsa, Sentex communications http://www.sentex.net Providing Internet Access since 1994 [EMAIL PROTECTED], (http://www.tancsa.com) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?
On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, Mike Tancsa wrote: On Wed, 3 Jan 2007 02:56:40 -0500 (EST), in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote: 4) Allowing non-standard modules to reside on the CD, instead of loading from floppy (i.e. I see there's a twa module in the base system, why aren't the .ko's sitting around easily-accessible for sysinstall?) If I'm missing some really obvious way of doing this, please let me know. What version of FreeBSD are you trying to install ? I thought 6.2RC2 would work with this controller That's the typo. It's the 9650SE. -Dan HARDWARE The twa driver supports the following SATA RAID controllers: o AMCC's 3ware 9500S-4LP o AMCC's 3ware 9500S-8 o AMCC's 3ware 9500S-8MI o AMCC's 3ware 9500S-12 o AMCC's 3ware 9500S-12MI o AMCC's 3ware 9500SX-4LP o AMCC's 3ware 9500SX-8LP o AMCC's 3ware 9500SX-12 o AMCC's 3ware 9500SX-12MI o AMCC's 3ware 9500SX-16ML o AMCC's 3ware 9550SX-4LP o AMCC's 3ware 9550SX-8LP o AMCC's 3ware 9550SX-12 o AMCC's 3ware 9550SX-12MI o AMCC's 3ware 9550SX-16ML I am running with da0 at twa0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: AMCC 9550SX-4LP DISK 3.01 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 100.000MB/s transfers da0: 152566MB (312455168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 19449C) ---Mike Mike Tancsa, Sentex communications http://www.sentex.net Providing Internet Access since 1994 [EMAIL PROTECTED], (http://www.tancsa.com) -- You're a thucking reyer! -Richard Bozzello, who believed tongue piercing was painless. Dan Mahoney Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?
At 09:59 PM 1/3/2007, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, Mike Tancsa wrote: On Wed, 3 Jan 2007 02:56:40 -0500 (EST), in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote: 4) Allowing non-standard modules to reside on the CD, instead of loading from floppy (i.e. I see there's a twa module in the base system, why aren't the .ko's sitting around easily-accessible for sysinstall?) If I'm missing some really obvious way of doing this, please let me know. What version of FreeBSD are you trying to install ? I thought 6.2RC2 would work with this controller That's the typo. It's the 9650SE. Did you try with 6.2 ? Or 6.1. ---Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
