Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 10:18:26PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeffrey Goldberg Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 1:34 PM To: Jerry McAllister Cc: FreeBSD List Subject: Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials that I made the right decision. In the same way that when I volunteer at the school, I don't where wear controversial T-Shirts. (Though who would have thought that my Friends don't let friends use Windows shirt would cause complaints!) They'd probably shit bricks if you wore this T-shirt ;-) http://www.cafepress.com/landoverbaptist.165261422 I've seen that one around - I think at church, actually. Then again, my congregation is in Michigan, not Alabama or Mississippi. I'd get one for myself, but they are too expensive. jerry (Yes, I know) Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of prad Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:06 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 01:03:40 -0700 Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (aside from the arrogant setting aside of 20 some years of BSD Unix history) i don't really understand the reason for the changing beastie - who is easily the cutest of any os (even better than the excellent puffy of openbsd)! we link to freebsd with beastie and there are certainly several beasties on http://www.freebsd.org/art.html, but none on http://www.freebsd.org/logo.html suggesting that the logo is the logo, but beastie is not? i always thought the daemon was inextricably linked with the bsds - i think it appeared even on the older versions of netbsd and openbsd. The issue started several years ago when one of the core developers started agitating for a different graphic. Apparently he had been asked too many times for his taste if the FreeBSD project had something to do with devil worship. A long drawn out argument ensued but core being core got their way. Core then started claiming Beastie wasn't a logo, he was a mascot and that it why we needed a logo (despite the fact that Beastie has been used as a logo for years) As a peace offering they tried the contest idea. The submissions were so crappy they extended the contest deadline. Finally they got a submission that they decided was OK and that won the contest. The FreeBSD community was not allowed to see the other entrants. It was your basic star chamber decision. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 01:45:57AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: [snip] The issue started several years ago when one of the core developers started agitating for a different graphic. Apparently he had been asked too many times for his taste if the FreeBSD project had something to do with devil worship. A long drawn out argument ensued but core being core got their way. Core then started claiming Beastie wasn't a logo, he was a mascot and that it why we needed a logo (despite the fact that Beastie has been used as a logo for years) As a peace offering they tried the contest idea. The submissions were so crappy they extended the contest deadline. Finally they got a submission that they decided was OK and that won the contest. The FreeBSD community was not allowed to see the other entrants. It was your basic star chamber decision. Ted I always have wondered about the other entries. Surely someone has got a copy of them lying around; I (and I'm sure many others) would be quite interested to see them, if such a thing is possible. frase pgpyTPFjzEQJk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials
On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 01:45:57 -0700 Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if the FreeBSD project had something to do with devil worship devil worship and os! amazing!! i had read something along these lines some years ago when we were using linux or may be openbsd, but i sort of thought it was a joke. evidently, some people don't know the difference between a daemon and the demon. no doubt they are already possessed. thanks for the background, ted. -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 09:54:50PM +1000, Fraser Tweedale wrote: On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 01:45:57AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: [snip] The issue started several years ago when one of the core developers started agitating for a different graphic. Apparently he had been asked too many times for his taste if the FreeBSD project had something to do with devil worship. A long drawn out argument ensued but core being core got their way. Core then started claiming Beastie wasn't a logo, he was a mascot and that it why we needed a logo (despite the fact that Beastie has been used as a logo for years) As a peace offering they tried the contest idea. The submissions were so crappy they extended the contest deadline. Finally they got a submission that they decided was OK and that won the contest. The FreeBSD community was not allowed to see the other entrants. It was your basic star chamber decision. Ted I always have wondered about the other entries. Surely someone has got a copy of them lying around; I (and I'm sure many others) would be quite interested to see them, if such a thing is possible. Probably you really don't want to see them. Ted's narrative is pretty much how I remember it. Maybe everyone should make their own and use it. FreeBSD is a user created Open Software project after all. jerry frase ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials
On Jun 4, 2008, at 2:34 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: Maybe everyone should make their own and use it. FreeBSD is a user created Open Software project after all. I used to have a Powered by FreeBSD button with the BSDie on a mailing list server that I'd set up for the PTA for my daughter's school in Texas. I figured that I could handle any complaints or questions that I got about it. But then I heard one of the teachers explain to other staff that if she ever was shopping and the final price of items totaled up to $6.66 she would make sure to add another item so that she wouldn't have to be part of a transaction involving 666. (I guess she never would have been a customer of Demon Internet in the UK which started out with the telephone prefix for their dial-up pool being 666). At that point, I decided that my problem wouldn't be with responding to complaints and queries, but the problem would be with the people who never complained directly to me, but who shunned the service or complained about me. So now there is just a text link without the button. Whether you want to call this self-censorship or not, I think that I made the right decision. In the same way that when I volunteer at the school, I don't where controversial T-Shirts. (Though who would have thought that my Friends don't let friends use Windows shirt would cause complaints!) So I agree with your point. If you like the old BSDie, use it. If you like the new logo, use that. If you want something else, you are free to roll your own. Cheers, -j -- Jeffrey Goldberghttp://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fraser Tweedale Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 4:55 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 01:45:57AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: [snip] The issue started several years ago when one of the core developers started agitating for a different graphic. Apparently he had been asked too many times for his taste if the FreeBSD project had something to do with devil worship. A long drawn out argument ensued but core being core got their way. Core then started claiming Beastie wasn't a logo, he was a mascot and that it why we needed a logo (despite the fact that Beastie has been used as a logo for years) As a peace offering they tried the contest idea. The submissions were so crappy they extended the contest deadline. Finally they got a submission that they decided was OK and that won the contest. The FreeBSD community was not allowed to see the other entrants. It was your basic star chamber decision. Ted I always have wondered about the other entries. Surely someone has got a copy of them lying around; I (and I'm sure many others) would be quite interested to see them, if such a thing is possible. Start (and end) here: http://logo-contest.freebsd.org/ Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeffrey Goldberg Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 1:34 PM To: Jerry McAllister Cc: FreeBSD List Subject: Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials that I made the right decision. In the same way that when I volunteer at the school, I don't where wear controversial T-Shirts. (Though who would have thought that my Friends don't let friends use Windows shirt would cause complaints!) They'd probably shit bricks if you wore this T-shirt ;-) http://www.cafepress.com/landoverbaptist.165261422 (Yes, I know) Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pollywog Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 11:57 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials On Monday 02 June 2008 15:58:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree completely, it's what got me over to BSD ! I am a little confused. I just see a sphere with horns on it that reminds me of the BSD daemon's head, only made to look less demonic. Is it supposed to be something else? No, that is what it's supposed to be. The sex toy issue is that you saw the sphere with horns AFTER you saw Beastie. So you had a frame of reference, and naturally assume it's Beastie's head. The problem is, think about people who have NEVER seen Beastie before seeing the sex toy logo for the first time. Since they have no frame of reference they can easily assume that it means anything at all. Such as the business end of a French tickler, which it kind of resembles. When those of us in the know call it a sex toy, we are making a little inside joke, as we are basically saying the logo design is terrible because it does not indicate to anyone looking at it what it is supposed to represent. The Linux penguin is no different - someone seeing a Penguin isn't going to know it has to do with an operating system, either. Many corporate logos also suffer from the same problem. The difference between the corporate logos and Linux and us, is that those organizations have the marketing muscle to take their rediculous logo designs and pound them into the public conciousness through endless advertising. See a blue oval? Most people think Ford Not because a blue oval has anything to do with cars. It's because Ford has dumped trillions of dollars in advertising over the years pounding that association into the public mind. The designer of the FreeBSD logo approached it from the usual corporate arrogance of we can create anything we want, then just pay money for the association. The only problem is that the FreeBSD project has no money to spend to create this association. As a result the logo completely fails in it's job. Arguably, there is also no public association between Beastie and the FreeBSD operating system either, so in the long run we aren't any worse off than we were. (aside from the arrogant setting aside of 20 some years of BSD Unix history) Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials
On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 01:03:40 -0700 Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (aside from the arrogant setting aside of 20 some years of BSD Unix history) i don't really understand the reason for the changing beastie - who is easily the cutest of any os (even better than the excellent puffy of openbsd)! we link to freebsd with beastie and there are certainly several beasties on http://www.freebsd.org/art.html, but none on http://www.freebsd.org/logo.html suggesting that the logo is the logo, but beastie is not? i always thought the daemon was inextricably linked with the bsds - i think it appeared even on the older versions of netbsd and openbsd. -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Unga Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 9:14 PM To: Steve Lake Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials Raiden's Realm is a community tech site dedicated to helping people learn about Linux, BSD, and open source software. - WHO WE ARE, www.raiden.net. If you are honest for your site's objective, appreciate if could drop the penguin from the site's logo without a delay. It clearly shows your bias. Yep, he definitely likes birds better than red sex toys... lol. Cute. I'm actually a very strong supporter of Freebsd. I wouldn't list 3 of the major BSD distros in my recommended distros section if I wasn't. :) The problem is, the majority of my audience is Linux guys and newbies looking for info on Linux. I figure if I can get them in the door with Linux, I can make a BSD evangelist out of them eventually. :) I've already had quite a few BSD converts over the past couple of years doing just that. :D Steven Lake Owner/Technical Writer Raiden's Realm www.raiden.net Bringing Linux and BSD to the World ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials
On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 07:18:14AM -0400, Steve Lake wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Unga Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 9:14 PM To: Steve Lake Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials Raiden's Realm is a community tech site dedicated to helping people learn about Linux, BSD, and open source software. - WHO WE ARE, www.raiden.net. If you are honest for your site's objective, appreciate if could drop the penguin from the site's logo without a delay. It clearly shows your bias. Yep, he definitely likes birds better than red sex toys... lol. Cute. I'm actually a very strong supporter of Freebsd. I wouldn't list 3 of the major BSD distros in my recommended distros section if I wasn't. :) The problem is, the majority of my audience is Linux guys and newbies looking for info on Linux. I figure if I can get them in the door with Linux, I can make a BSD evangelist out of them eventually. :) I've already had quite a few BSD converts over the past couple of years doing just that. :D Still, you need to add the sex toy in a nice dignified, well designed way to your banner. jerry Steven Lake Owner/Technical Writer Raiden's Realm www.raiden.net Bringing Linux and BSD to the World ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials
On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 07:18:14AM -0400, Steve Lake wrote: If you are honest for your site's objective, appreciate if could drop the penguin from the site's logo without a delay. It clearly shows your bias. Yep, he definitely likes birds better than red sex toys... lol. Cute. I'm actually a very strong supporter of Freebsd. I wouldn't list 3 of the major BSD distros in my recommended distros section if I wasn't. :) The problem is, the majority of my audience is Linux guys and newbies looking for info on Linux. I figure if I can get them in the door with Linux, I can make a BSD evangelist out of them eventually. :) I've already had quite a few BSD converts over the past couple of years doing just that. :D Still, you need to add the sex toy in a nice dignified, well designed way to your banner. jerry I agree completely, it's what got me over to BSD ! Dave // bridd ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials
On Monday 02 June 2008 15:58:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree completely, it's what got me over to BSD ! I am a little confused. I just see a sphere with horns on it that reminds me of the BSD daemon's head, only made to look less demonic. Is it supposed to be something else? If it is one of those toys is that what FreeBSD folks really want to project as an image? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials
On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 06:57:00PM +, Pollywog wrote: On Monday 02 June 2008 15:58:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree completely, it's what got me over to BSD ! I am a little confused. I just see a sphere with horns on it that reminds me of the BSD daemon's head, only made to look less demonic. Is it supposed to be something else? If it is one of those toys is that what FreeBSD folks really want to project as an image? That is so funny! People spent years arguing about the BSDie daemon image and how it causes misunderstandings, etc and so they had a contest to choose an official logo (BSDie was no a logo, many claimed. He is just a mascott). Well, the sex toy is what FreeBSD ended up with as logo with BSDie daemon retained as the mascott. More people still identify with the BSDie daemon doll and still use it on their web pages, etc. But, the sex toy is currently the official logo - as much as anything is official with FreeBSD. So, now we can have numerous long threads complaining about how the sex toy is a bad image for FreeBSD and causes misunderstanding. If I could draw, I would have offered an alternative, but such is not my fortune. Have fun y'all. jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials
On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 06:57:00PM +, Pollywog wrote: On Monday 02 June 2008 15:58:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree completely, it's what got me over to BSD ! I am a little confused. I just see a sphere with horns on it that reminds me of the BSD daemon's head, only made to look less demonic. Is it supposed to be something else? If it is one of those toys is that what FreeBSD folks really want to project as an image? It's supposed to be an abstracted, fancy impression of Beastie's head, as far as I'm aware. It has simply been observed (with some humor) that it looks like some odd kind of sex toy -- and a lot of people have since then referred to it as the sex toy as a result. That's all. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Albert Camus: An intellectual is someone whose mind watches itself. pgpVzJi4rJfCq.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Unga Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 9:14 PM To: Steve Lake Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials Raiden's Realm is a community tech site dedicated to helping people learn about Linux, BSD, and open source software. - WHO WE ARE, www.raiden.net. If you are honest for your site's objective, appreciate if could drop the penguin from the site's logo without a delay. It clearly shows your bias. Yep, he definitely likes birds better than red sex toys... Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials
On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 12:54:32AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Unga Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 9:14 PM To: Steve Lake Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials Raiden's Realm is a community tech site dedicated to helping people learn about Linux, BSD, and open source software. - WHO WE ARE, www.raiden.net. If you are honest for your site's objective, appreciate if could drop the penguin from the site's logo without a delay. It clearly shows your bias. Yep, he definitely likes birds better than red sex toys... Yah, but he's in therapy for it. Give him something to live for and help his desparate attempt to crawl out of the pit. jerry Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials
If you are honest for your site's objective, appreciate if could drop the penguin from the site's logo without a delay. It clearly shows your bias. Well, I am looking for a new logo, but I'd need someone who could help me design it since I'm not all that great at graphic design. ^_^;; Steven Lake Owner/Technical Writer Raiden's Realm www.raiden.net Bringing Linux and BSD to the World ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials
Steve Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone. I was wondering if anybody here might be interested in writing and donating a few Freebsd tutorials or articles to Raiden's Realm to help us boost the number of Freebsd related articles on the site. A lot of what we have is Linux oriented right now because most of the people there are Linux oriented. I'm one of the few who's Freebsd oriented. And since my goal is to help people learn both Linux and Freebsd, I'm looking for people willing to help out by writing long or short tutorials on doing a variety of simple and complex tasks in Freebsd. These type of tutorials already exist on the FreeBSD web site. There is a Handbook which contains links to various articles. Also, there is a section designed specifically for the newbies to which your site caters: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html [...] -- Sahil Tandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials
Thanks for taking the time to read this. And if you can help out, I'd appreciate it. Also, I'm not advertising the site. Just asking for some help. Since open source is about sharing, it only stands to reason that some sharing can and should be done as well on the web. :) The majority of people on this list help immensely. Most of the work and documentation regarding FreeBSD that has been produced by anyone reading this list can be found publicly by your best friend... http://google.ca ...or, for those inclined: http://google.com/bsd Good luck with your site ;) Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 07:08:20PM -0400, Steve Lake wrote: Hi everyone. I was wondering if anybody here might be interested in writing and donating a few Freebsd tutorials or articles to Raiden's Realm to help us boost the number of Freebsd related articles on the site. A lot of what we have is Linux oriented right now because most of the people there are Linux oriented. I'm one of the few who's Freebsd oriented. And since my goal is to help people learn both Linux and Freebsd, I'm looking for people willing to help out by writing long or short tutorials on doing a variety of simple and complex tasks in Freebsd. The site is completely non-profit and is very new user oriented. I've even written a number of tutorials over the past couple of years focusing on several things involving Freebsd, from setting up a firewall, a workstation, and a file and mail server, to exploring the heart of Freebsd in order to help draw new users into our world. But my knowledge only goes so far, and I've seen that you guys really have a lot of great knowledge and information to share and if possible, I'd love to see a few of you share that knowledge through articles and tutorials on my site. My simple goal is to help people, and to promote Freebsd (well, and Linux too. hehe) as much as I can to new users. If anyone's willing to help, please let me know, or just shoot me something whenever you get the time. I'm not trying to beg or anything, but rather I'm trying to encourage others here to help new users through the web. Not everyone will know about this mailing list, or want to sign up to it. There's a lot of lurkers out there these days, and if you have a good tutorial or article posted on a website, it'll improve the chances of them hearing and learning about Freebsd. Thanks for taking the time to read this. And if you can help out, I'd appreciate it. Also, I'm not advertising the site. Just asking for some help. Since open source is about sharing, it only stands to reason that some sharing can and should be done as well on the web. :) Hi Steve, Several years back I was lead-writer on the AnswerMan help column. It was directed mostly at new users of the BSD's and aimed primarily at FreeBSD. We published several tutorial-like Q's and A's bi-monthly. Were heading into our 7th year before the column fell apart. Long-story-short, all the contributors gave permission to re-use the contents, so feel free to google up the stuff and use what you deem usable. cheers, gary kline Steven Lake Owner/Technical Writer Raiden's Realm www.raiden.net Bringing Linux and BSD to the World ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials
Raiden's Realm is a community tech site dedicated to helping people learn about Linux, BSD, and open source software. - WHO WE ARE, www.raiden.net. If you are honest for your site's objective, appreciate if could drop the penguin from the site's logo without a delay. It clearly shows your bias. Regards Unga ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
