ZFS + iSCSI architecture

2013-02-19 Thread b...@todoo.biz
Hello,


I am about to start deploying a large system (about 18 To which can grow up to 
36 To) based on a big Intel platform with lot's of fancy features to have turbo 
boosted platform (ZIL on SSD + system on dongle if I go for FreeNAS). Since I 
want to move on quite fast I might decide to use FreeNAS in it's latest 
version. 


The idea behind all that was to grant 5 or six critical servers access to the 
NAS so that they can take advantage of : 

1. space available on the NAS

2. ability of the NAS to use ZFS and of clients to support this file system 
(including snapshots) 

3. Access the server using iSCSI (at least this is what I initially planned). 

4. Mount part of their filesystem using data stored on the SAN (like 
/usr/local/ or other parts of the system). 



The server accessing the data will be of two types : 

1. 2 x Ubuntu server 10.04 LTS 

2. 4 x FreeBSD (mainly 8 and 9) with jail configured 


I have started reading about iSCSI and potential problems with FreeBSD. 

So my main questions would be : 


• Should I go for iSCSI ? 

• Should I rather choose / prefer NFS ? 

• Should I export a Volume as UFS rather than ZFS (is ZFS supported as a 
target) ?


The main idea is stability, redundancy of data and ease of maintenance (in a 
headless FreeBSD / Linux world) before anything else ! 



That's the big pictures, if you have any pointers, advise, they are all 
welcome. 


It is quite late where I leave, so I will reply to posts in 8 to 10 hours, but 
I hope to have enough answer(s) to start an interesting thread (as I think this 
question is very interesting and not so clearly explained (at least in my 
mind))… 


Thx very much for your infos and feedback. 



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Re: ZFS + iSCSI architecture

2013-02-19 Thread Dmitry Sarkisov
On 19-02-2013, Tue [23:20:41], b...@todoo.biz wrote:
 Hello,
 
 
 I am about to start deploying a large system (about 18 To which can grow up 
 to 36 To) based on a big Intel platform with lot's of fancy features to have 
 turbo boosted platform (ZIL on SSD + system on dongle if I go for FreeNAS). 
 Since I want to move on quite fast I might decide to use FreeNAS in it's 
 latest version. 
 
 
 The idea behind all that was to grant 5 or six critical servers access to the 
 NAS so that they can take advantage of : 
 
 1. space available on the NAS
 
 2. ability of the NAS to use ZFS and of clients to support this file system 
 (including snapshots) 
 
 3. Access the server using iSCSI (at least this is what I initially planned). 
 
 4. Mount part of their filesystem using data stored on the SAN (like 
 /usr/local/ or other parts of the system). 
 
 
 
 The server accessing the data will be of two types : 
 
 1. 2 x Ubuntu server 10.04 LTS 
 
 2. 4 x FreeBSD (mainly 8 and 9) with jail configured 
 
 
 I have started reading about iSCSI and potential problems with FreeBSD. 
 
 So my main questions would be : 
 
 
 • Should I go for iSCSI ? 
 
 • Should I rather choose / prefer NFS ? 
 
 • Should I export a Volume as UFS rather than ZFS (is ZFS supported as a 
 target) ?
 
 
 The main idea is stability, redundancy of data and ease of maintenance (in a 
 headless FreeBSD / Linux world) before anything else ! 
 
 
 
 That's the big pictures, if you have any pointers, advise, they are all 
 welcome. 
 
 
 It is quite late where I leave, so I will reply to posts in 8 to 10 hours, 
 but I hope to have enough answer(s) to start an interesting thread (as I 
 think this question is very interesting and not so clearly explained (at 
 least in my mind))… 
 
 
 Thx very much for your infos and feedback. 
 
 

Hello,

If I needed a NFS+iSCSI solution I'd go for Solaris 11. Docs are abundant and 
the system is very stable and feature-rich.
Tried recently the integration in Windows Domain and iSCSI features, all works 
wery good.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for FreeBSD ;)  but in this particular case I'd 
choose Solaris. 


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Re: ZFS + iSCSI architecture

2013-02-19 Thread Fleuriot Damien

On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:20 PM, b...@todoo.biz b...@todoo.biz wrote:

 Hello,
 
 
 I am about to start deploying a large system (about 18 To which can grow up 
 to 36 To) based on a big Intel platform with lot's of fancy features to have 
 turbo boosted platform (ZIL on SSD + system on dongle if I go for FreeNAS). 
 Since I want to move on quite fast I might decide to use FreeNAS in it's 
 latest version. 
 
 
 The idea behind all that was to grant 5 or six critical servers access to the 
 NAS so that they can take advantage of : 
 
 1. space available on the NAS
 
 2. ability of the NAS to use ZFS and of clients to support this file system 
 (including snapshots) 
 
 3. Access the server using iSCSI (at least this is what I initially planned). 
 
 4. Mount part of their filesystem using data stored on the SAN (like 
 /usr/local/ or other parts of the system). 
 
 
 
 The server accessing the data will be of two types : 
 
 1. 2 x Ubuntu server 10.04 LTS 
 
 2. 4 x FreeBSD (mainly 8 and 9) with jail configured 
 
 
 I have started reading about iSCSI and potential problems with FreeBSD. 
 

What problems do you mean ?



 So my main questions would be : 
 
 
 • Should I go for iSCSI ? 
 

Well in all use cases, iscsi should perform faster than NFS.



 • Should I rather choose / prefer NFS ? 
 
 • Should I export a Volume as UFS rather than ZFS (is ZFS supported as a 
 target) ?
 

I'm not sure what you mean here, when you export a zvol over ISCSI:
- your SAN is the target and presents a block device (the zvol)
- your client is the initiator
- your client attaches to the ISCSI drive and formats it using filesystem XYZ, 
be it ext3, ufs or ntfs




 
 The main idea is stability, redundancy of data and ease of maintenance (in a 
 headless FreeBSD / Linux world) before anything else ! 
 

ISCSI is a bit harder to setup IMO, however I think it''s more reliable than 
NFS, what with its auto retries if it loses the network link to a device.



 
 
 That's the big pictures, if you have any pointers, advise, they are all 
 welcome. 
 
 
 It is quite late where I leave, so I will reply to posts in 8 to 10 hours, 
 but I hope to have enough answer(s) to start an interesting thread (as I 
 think this question is very interesting and not so clearly explained (at 
 least in my mind))… 
 

This is idd a very interesting topic and I hope to see more :)



 
 Thx very much for your infos and feedback. 


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Re: ZFS + iSCSI architecture

2013-02-19 Thread iamatt
Sounds like a major headache.  I'd just deploy NetApp with OnTap 8.X or
isilon,  both BSD based now.
On Feb 19, 2013 7:15 PM, Fleuriot Damien m...@my.gd wrote:


 On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:20 PM, b...@todoo.biz b...@todoo.biz wrote:

  Hello,
 
 
  I am about to start deploying a large system (about 18 To which can grow
 up to 36 To) based on a big Intel platform with lot's of fancy features to
 have turbo boosted platform (ZIL on SSD + system on dongle if I go for
 FreeNAS). Since I want to move on quite fast I might decide to use FreeNAS
 in it's latest version.
 
 
  The idea behind all that was to grant 5 or six critical servers access
 to the NAS so that they can take advantage of :
 
  1. space available on the NAS
 
  2. ability of the NAS to use ZFS and of clients to support this file
 system (including snapshots)
 
  3. Access the server using iSCSI (at least this is what I initially
 planned).
 
  4. Mount part of their filesystem using data stored on the SAN (like
 /usr/local/ or other parts of the system).
 
 
 
  The server accessing the data will be of two types :
 
  1. 2 x Ubuntu server 10.04 LTS
 
  2. 4 x FreeBSD (mainly 8 and 9) with jail configured
 
 
  I have started reading about iSCSI and potential problems with FreeBSD.
 

 What problems do you mean ?



  So my main questions would be :
 
 
  • Should I go for iSCSI ?
 

 Well in all use cases, iscsi should perform faster than NFS.



  • Should I rather choose / prefer NFS ?
 
  • Should I export a Volume as UFS rather than ZFS (is ZFS supported as a
 target) ?
 

 I'm not sure what you mean here, when you export a zvol over ISCSI:
 - your SAN is the target and presents a block device (the zvol)
 - your client is the initiator
 - your client attaches to the ISCSI drive and formats it using filesystem
 XYZ, be it ext3, ufs or ntfs




 
  The main idea is stability, redundancy of data and ease of maintenance
 (in a headless FreeBSD / Linux world) before anything else !
 

 ISCSI is a bit harder to setup IMO, however I think it''s more reliable
 than NFS, what with its auto retries if it loses the network link to a
 device.



 
 
  That's the big pictures, if you have any pointers, advise, they are all
 welcome.
 
 
  It is quite late where I leave, so I will reply to posts in 8 to 10
 hours, but I hope to have enough answer(s) to start an interesting thread
 (as I think this question is very interesting and not so clearly explained
 (at least in my mind))…
 

 This is idd a very interesting topic and I hope to see more :)



 
  Thx very much for your infos and feedback.


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Re: ZFS + iSCSI architecture

2013-02-19 Thread b...@todoo.biz

Le 20 févr. 2013 à 02:14, Fleuriot Damien m...@my.gd a écrit :

 
 On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:20 PM, b...@todoo.biz b...@todoo.biz wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 
 I am about to start deploying a large system (about 18 To which can grow up 
 to 36 To) based on a big Intel platform with lot's of fancy features to have 
 turbo boosted platform (ZIL on SSD + system on dongle if I go for FreeNAS). 
 Since I want to move on quite fast I might decide to use FreeNAS in it's 
 latest version. 
 
 
 The idea behind all that was to grant 5 or six critical servers access to 
 the NAS so that they can take advantage of : 
 
 1. space available on the NAS
 
 2. ability of the NAS to use ZFS and of clients to support this file system 
 (including snapshots) 
 
 3. Access the server using iSCSI (at least this is what I initially 
 planned). 
 
 4. Mount part of their filesystem using data stored on the SAN (like 
 /usr/local/ or other parts of the system). 
 
 
 
 The server accessing the data will be of two types : 
 
 1. 2 x Ubuntu server 10.04 LTS 
 
 2. 4 x FreeBSD (mainly 8 and 9) with jail configured 
 
 
 I have started reading about iSCSI and potential problems with FreeBSD. 
 
 
 What problems do you mean ?

For example : 

- Can my client (the initiator) directly mount a ZFS volume on freeBSD using 
iSCSI or should I go back to formatting It to UFS ?

- Is the iSCSI stack in FreeBSD stable an mature enough to be used in a 
production environment ?
== It is out of scope to have kernel panic because of an unstable iSCSI 
related problem. 


 
 So my main questions would be : 
 
 
 • Should I go for iSCSI ? 
 
 
 Well in all use cases, iscsi should perform faster than NFS.

Fast is good - stable is necessary in this case ! 
And this is what I am tring to evaluate… 

 
 • Should I rather choose / prefer NFS ? 
 
 • Should I export a Volume as UFS rather than ZFS (is ZFS supported as a 
 target) ?
 
 
 I'm not sure what you mean here, when you export a zvol over ISCSI:
 - your SAN is the target and presents a block device (the zvol)
 - your client is the initiator
 - your client attaches to the ISCSI drive and formats it using filesystem 
 XYZ, be it ext3, ufs or ntfs
 

Thanks for this reminder about vocabulary for iSCSI, I'll try to stick to It 
;-) 

 
 
 The main idea is stability, redundancy of data and ease of maintenance (in a 
 headless FreeBSD / Linux world) before anything else ! 
 
 
 ISCSI is a bit harder to setup IMO, however I think it''s more reliable than 
 NFS, what with its auto retries if it loses the network link to a device.
 

Have you deployed this in production and what are your concerns and 
recommendations ? 

 
 
 
 
 That's the big pictures, if you have any pointers, advise, they are all 
 welcome. 
 
 
 It is quite late where I leave, so I will reply to posts in 8 to 10 hours, 
 but I hope to have enough answer(s) to start an interesting thread (as I 
 think this question is very interesting and not so clearly explained (at 
 least in my mind))… 
 
 
 This is idd a very interesting topic and I hope to see more :)
 

There is also an interesting (and fresh) post here : 

http://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/solaris/ZFSFreeBSDvsIllumos?showcomments#comments

 
 
 Thx very much for your infos and feedback. 
 
 


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Re: Freebsd iSCSI client ?

2012-10-30 Thread dweimer

On 2012-10-29 17:08, dweimer wrote:

On 2012-10-29 13:51, dweimer wrote:

On 2012-10-29 08:29, John Levine wrote:
I'm trying to set up a freebsd image under vmware, but I need more 
disk
space than the vmware hosts offer.  So the guy who runs the hosting 
place
suggests getting a 1U disk server and using iSCSI over gigabit 
Ethernet

so I can build zfs volumes from the iSCSI disks.

Poking around, the reports say that FreeBSD is a pretty good iSCSI
server in such forms as freenas, but a lousy iSCSI client, with the
first problem being that that kludges are required to get iSCSI
volumes mounted early enough in the boot process for ZFS to find 
them.

Is this still the case in FreeBSD 9?

I'd rather not use NFS, since the remote disks have mysql 
databases,

and mysql and NFS are not friends.

An alternative is to mount the iSCSI under vmware, so zfs sees them 
as

normal disks.  Anyone tried that?

TIA,
John


I don't have an answer for you at the moment, but I can tell you 
that

I just started a new server build this morning with the intent of
using it as an iSCSI client and running ZFS on the drive.  In my 
case

however its going to be a file server that doesn't have very much
heavy I/O, with the intention of using compression on the ZFS file
set.  In my case a script ran after start up to mount the drive 
would

work if it fails.  I will let you know what I find out, server is in
the middle of a buildworld to get it updated to the p4 release.

Yes you can mount as a drive through VMware and use ZFS just fine, I
have done a lot of recent tests using ZFS as the boot volume under
VMware. This new server will be my first production server to use 
what

I have learned from those tests, as its system drive mounted through
VMware (ESX 4.1) and is booting from ZFS.  Once the install of the
buildworld is complete I will add a 150G ZFS data set on our HP
Lefthand Networks SAN, run some tests and let you know the outcome 
of

them.


Looks like I have some learning to do, system is up and running and
talks to the iscsi volume just fine, however as you mentioned, the 
big
problem is mounting the volume at start up.  can't find any options 
at

all to launch iscontrol at boot.  Found an example
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/ script from a mail forum a ways back however it
was setup to use UFS volumes and a secondary fstab file for the iscsi
volumes.  I don't see any reason that one can't be made to make use 
of

zfs with the volumes set with option canmount=noauto and using an
rc.conf variable to pass which volumes to mount at boot, and umount 
at

shutdown to the script.
However, I have some reading to do before I get started, as I haven't
tried to create an rc.d script, and need to get an understanding of
how to properly create one which follows all the proper guidelines,
and allows itself to be a requirement for other scripts.  I don't see
any reason it would work successfully to host a MySQL database as the
OP was looking for or a Samba share as I intend to use it as long as
their start up can be set to require the iSCSI start up to run first.
If anyone has already done something similar to this and has some
information to pass on that would be great.  I probably won't have
time to even start researching this till Thursday this week


Well I got stuck waiting at work today for a replacement array 
controller, and got some time to work on this.  This still needs some 
work, and I am not sure its the best way to handle it as it does an 
export on the zpool at shutdown and import at start up.  I also don't 
know at this point about other services waiting on it.  But I have 
verified that a server reboot cleanly dismounts the volumes and a reboot 
remounts them.


Things to note, the # BEFORE: line below, that was copied from the old 
mailing list thread I found, not sure if that is something real or not.  
The ZFS data set I was using was set with option canmount=noauto.  the 
zpool import/export and zfs mount/umount are just typed in there, it 
needs to be broken up and pulled form an rc.conf variable option instead


#!/bin/sh

# PROVIDE: iscsi
# REQUIRE: NETWORKING
# BEFORE: mountcritremote
# KEYWORD: shutdown

. /etc/rc.subr

name=iscsi
start_cmd=iscsi_start
stop_cmd=iscsi_stop
rcvar=iscsi_enable
required_modules=iscsi_initiator:iscsi

iscsi_start() {
  ${iscsi_command} -c ${iscsi_config} -n ${iscsi_nickname}
  sleep 1
  zpool import ziscsi
  zfs mount ziscsi/storage
}

iscsi_stop() {
  zfs umount ziscsi/storage
  zpool export ziscsi
  killall -HUP ${iscsi_command}
}

load_rc_config $name

: ${iscsi_enable=NO}
: ${iscsi_command=iscontrol}
: ${iscsi_config=/etc/iscsi.conf}
: ${iscsi_nickname=}

run_rc_command $1



Other files information used:
rc.conf:
...
# Enable iscsi
iscsi_enable=YES
iscsi_command=iscontrol
iscsi_nickname=LHMG002
iscsi_config=/etc/iscsi.conf
...

iscsi.conf:
# Globals
port = 3260
InitiatorName = iqn.2005-01.il.ac.huji.cs:testvm.local

LHMG002 {
TargetAddress   = 10.31.120.102:3260,1

Re: Freebsd iSCSI client ?

2012-10-29 Thread dweimer

On 2012-10-29 08:29, John Levine wrote:
I'm trying to set up a freebsd image under vmware, but I need more 
disk
space than the vmware hosts offer.  So the guy who runs the hosting 
place
suggests getting a 1U disk server and using iSCSI over gigabit 
Ethernet

so I can build zfs volumes from the iSCSI disks.

Poking around, the reports say that FreeBSD is a pretty good iSCSI
server in such forms as freenas, but a lousy iSCSI client, with the
first problem being that that kludges are required to get iSCSI
volumes mounted early enough in the boot process for ZFS to find 
them.

Is this still the case in FreeBSD 9?

I'd rather not use NFS, since the remote disks have mysql databases,
and mysql and NFS are not friends.

An alternative is to mount the iSCSI under vmware, so zfs sees them 
as

normal disks.  Anyone tried that?

TIA,
John


I don't have an answer for you at the moment, but I can tell you that I 
just started a new server build this morning with the intent of using it 
as an iSCSI client and running ZFS on the drive.  In my case however its 
going to be a file server that doesn't have very much heavy I/O, with 
the intention of using compression on the ZFS file set.  In my case a 
script ran after start up to mount the drive would work if it fails.  I 
will let you know what I find out, server is in the middle of a 
buildworld to get it updated to the p4 release.


Yes you can mount as a drive through VMware and use ZFS just fine, I 
have done a lot of recent tests using ZFS as the boot volume under 
VMware. This new server will be my first production server to use what I 
have learned from those tests, as its system drive mounted through 
VMware (ESX 4.1) and is booting from ZFS.  Once the install of the 
buildworld is complete I will add a 150G ZFS data set on our HP Lefthand 
Networks SAN, run some tests and let you know the outcome of them.


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Thanks,
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   http://www.dweimer.net/
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Re: Anyone Tried to use iPXE to boot with iSCSI?

2012-09-21 Thread Bill Tillman


- Original Message -
From: Paul Wootton cas...@caspersworld.co.uk
To: Bill Tillman btillma...@yahoo.com
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:08 AM
Subject: Re: Anyone Tried to use iPXE to boot with iSCSI?

On 09/20/12 01:42, Bill Tillman wrote:
 Interesting project you've got there. I can't say mine is similar but I do 
 have a machine which I'm using as a router which boots disklessly. Running 
 8.3-STABLE amd64, in fact I just rebuilt the world on both the server which 
 serves this puppy it's OS and the /diskless partition where this puppy get's 
 it's boot up from. Booting by pxe is not an easy thing to do. The docs are 
 terrible and out of synch with the latest versions of the OS. I think there 
 may have been some improvments on that end but it's still kind of a seat of 
 the pants operation. I had several contacts in #FreeBSD on FreeNode who told 
 me they had many diskless servers running yet when pressed for how they did 
 it the answers they gave were vague and ambiguous, that is if they answered 
 at all. I did finally find a site which explained most of it in an almost 
 clear manner, but even that site was filled with typos and out of date 
 information. The router I've built is great...no disks at all
   and until the reboot a few weeks ago it had been running 24/7 for 276 
days...without one failure. We watch lots of NetFlix movies here, sometimes 
two or three at a time with my teenage kids here with their laptops. And I can 
still enjoy a quick download or two in my lab while all this bandwidth is 
being served.
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Hi Bil,,

I am actually looking at doing something very similar with my soekris box. 
Currently it boots from a CF card, but the card is getting old and I think it 
is coming to the end of it's life.

Can you please shed a little light on what you did?


Cheers
Paul



This is the website where I found the best and most accurate information on 
diskless booting. 

http://www.nber.org/sys-admin/FreeBSD-diskless.html

The authors appear to have updated this just a few months ago as well. I 
had trouble with it until I understood what the conf/ folders were all about. 
It's easy for a novice to read this and get confused because the authors assume 
the reader knows as much about it as they do or they are just lazy hacks like 
me and don't want to type all the real meat of the setup. I wrote an e-mail to 
them and explained several typos they had in their article in 2010 when I first 
found this article. The guy who replied back was very cool and he thanked me 
for helping with some of the corrections. I read lots of other stuff, including 
the FreeBSD handbook but as usual it was not in synch with the newest releases 
and I couldn't get it working. I'm happy to say that now I have a 
wonderful diskless setup which I can update when I want toI don't think I'm 
going to go past 8.3-STABLE with it. The new 9.x-RELEASE uses a new drive 
format which has created
 problems for me with the older equipment I have around here. I'm finally 
throwing out most of the old stuff I've had for years around here. Just built 
two new Windows 7 workstations with i7 Quad cores and 16 GB RAM. These older 
servers are still working fine for me and I plan on using them until they drop.
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Re: Anyone Tried to use iPXE to boot with iSCSI?

2012-09-20 Thread Vincent Hoffman
On 19/09/2012 06:53, dweimer wrote:
 I was just trying some proof of concept testing to see if I could get
 a system booting with no local disk using iSCSI running from my
 FreeNAS box.

 I got started, by first booting a 9.1-RC1 CD, into live CD, created a
 /tmp/iscsi.conf used kldload to load the iscsi initiator, connected to
 the target, created a gpt boot partition, swap partition and just a
 single / volume using remianing space.  Copied the bootcode, created
 the file system, extracted the system etc.  Created a loader.conf
 file, added the iscsi_initiator_load=YES option, copied my
 /tmp/iscsi.conf file to the new file system at /etc/iscsi.conf created
 a /etc/fstab file using the gpart labels to mount / and swap partitions.

 Booted the system from the iPXE.iso, ran the necessary configuration
 options, connected to the iscsi volume, and booted from it.  It does
 launch the bootcode, as expected, and then breaks failing to mount root.

 Whoch I actually expected, I have proved I can install to an iSCSI
 volume, I can connect to that iSCSI volume prior to loading the
 kernel, and load the kernel from it.

 What I can't seem to find any information on is how to mount iSCSI
 volumes at boot on FreeBSD, so that the kernel can mount the root
 partition.  Does anyone have any idea how to do this, or if its even
 possible?

Sounds like you need this
http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/iSCSI-boot-driver-0-2-5-isboot-ko-has-been-released-td5736301.html


Vince
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Re: Anyone Tried to use iPXE to boot with iSCSI?

2012-09-20 Thread dweimer

On 2012-09-20 09:42, Vincent Hoffman wrote:

On 19/09/2012 06:53, dweimer wrote:
I was just trying some proof of concept testing to see if I could 
get

a system booting with no local disk using iSCSI running from my
FreeNAS box.

I got started, by first booting a 9.1-RC1 CD, into live CD, created 
a
/tmp/iscsi.conf used kldload to load the iscsi initiator, connected 
to

the target, created a gpt boot partition, swap partition and just a
single / volume using remianing space.  Copied the bootcode, created
the file system, extracted the system etc.  Created a loader.conf
file, added the iscsi_initiator_load=YES option, copied my
/tmp/iscsi.conf file to the new file system at /etc/iscsi.conf 
created
a /etc/fstab file using the gpart labels to mount / and swap 
partitions.


Booted the system from the iPXE.iso, ran the necessary configuration
options, connected to the iscsi volume, and booted from it.  It does
launch the bootcode, as expected, and then breaks failing to mount 
root.


Whoch I actually expected, I have proved I can install to an iSCSI
volume, I can connect to that iSCSI volume prior to loading the
kernel, and load the kernel from it.

What I can't seem to find any information on is how to mount iSCSI
volumes at boot on FreeBSD, so that the kernel can mount the root
partition.  Does anyone have any idea how to do this, or if its even
possible?


Sounds like you need this

http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/iSCSI-boot-driver-0-2-5-isboot-ko-has-been-released-td5736301.html


Vince


That's looking promising, I had actually ran across an earlier version 
of this last night, of course that was all dealing with 8.1.  Will 
definitely do more looking into it, however it doesn't seem to be at a 
point I would consider running anything more than a test environment 
from it.


My actual goal with this project if the proof of concept panned out was 
to replace the old aging internal SATA Mirrored drives in my Home 
web/email server (They are showing a decent number of smart pre-fail 
indicators, but still working for now).  I have fairly new SATA drives 
in my FreeNAS box, and thought maybe since my Gig network is barely 
being taxed, that I could save some cash for new disk drives, to be put 
towards future upgrades to the FreeNAS box instead.


However I am not ruling out the possibility altogether yet, and am 
going to run some tests with booting from a very minimal set of required 
files on a USB thumb Drive, and mounting everything else from iSCSI.  I 
am already running all my VMware Test Virtual Machines on my workstation 
from an iSCSI volume mounted from my FreeNAS box, and know that it 
performs well enough in my network to handle the small amount of traffic 
to my website and my email without any problems.


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Anyone Tried to use iPXE to boot with iSCSI?

2012-09-19 Thread dweimer
I was just trying some proof of concept testing to see if I could get a 
system booting with no local disk using iSCSI running from my FreeNAS 
box.


I got started, by first booting a 9.1-RC1 CD, into live CD, created a 
/tmp/iscsi.conf used kldload to load the iscsi initiator, connected to 
the target, created a gpt boot partition, swap partition and just a 
single / volume using remianing space.  Copied the bootcode, created the 
file system, extracted the system etc.  Created a loader.conf file, 
added the iscsi_initiator_load=YES option, copied my /tmp/iscsi.conf 
file to the new file system at /etc/iscsi.conf created a /etc/fstab file 
using the gpart labels to mount / and swap partitions.


Booted the system from the iPXE.iso, ran the necessary configuration 
options, connected to the iscsi volume, and booted from it.  It does 
launch the bootcode, as expected, and then breaks failing to mount root.


Whoch I actually expected, I have proved I can install to an iSCSI 
volume, I can connect to that iSCSI volume prior to loading the kernel, 
and load the kernel from it.


What I can't seem to find any information on is how to mount iSCSI 
volumes at boot on FreeBSD, so that the kernel can mount the root 
partition.  Does anyone have any idea how to do this, or if its even 
possible?


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Re: Anyone Tried to use iPXE to boot with iSCSI?

2012-09-19 Thread Bill Tillman


- Original Message -
From: dweimer dwei...@dweimer.net
To: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:53 AM
Subject: Anyone Tried to use iPXE to boot with iSCSI?

I was just trying some proof of concept testing to see if I could get a system 
booting with no local disk using iSCSI running from my FreeNAS box.

I got started, by first booting a 9.1-RC1 CD, into live CD, created a 
/tmp/iscsi.conf used kldload to load the iscsi initiator, connected to the 
target, created a gpt boot partition, swap partition and just a single / volume 
using remianing space.  Copied the bootcode, created the file system, extracted 
the system etc.  Created a loader.conf file, added the 
iscsi_initiator_load=YES option, copied my /tmp/iscsi.conf file to the new 
file system at /etc/iscsi.conf created a /etc/fstab file using the gpart labels 
to mount / and swap partitions.

Booted the system from the iPXE.iso, ran the necessary configuration options, 
connected to the iscsi volume, and booted from it.  It does launch the 
bootcode, as expected, and then breaks failing to mount root.

Whoch I actually expected, I have proved I can install to an iSCSI volume, I 
can connect to that iSCSI volume prior to loading the kernel, and load the 
kernel from it.

What I can't seem to find any information on is how to mount iSCSI volumes at 
boot on FreeBSD, so that the kernel can mount the root partition.  Does anyone 
have any idea how to do this, or if its even possible?

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Interesting project you've got there. I can't say mine is similar but I do have 
a machine which I'm using as a router which boots disklessly. Running 
8.3-STABLE amd64, in fact I just rebuilt the world on both the server which 
serves this puppy it's OS and the /diskless partition where this puppy get's 
it's boot up from. Booting by pxe is not an easy thing to do. The docs are 
terrible and out of synch with the latest versions of the OS. I think there may 
have been some improvments on that end but it's still kind of a seat of the 
pants operation. I had several contacts in #FreeBSD on FreeNode who told me 
they had many diskless servers running yet when pressed for how they did it the 
answers they gave were vague and ambiguous, that is if they answered at all. I 
did finally find a site which explained most of it in an almost clear manner, 
but even that site was filled with typos and out of date information. The 
router I've built is great...no disks at all
 and until the reboot a few weeks ago it had been running 24/7 for 276 
days...without one failure. We watch lots of NetFlix movies here, sometimes two 
or three at a time with my teenage kids here with their laptops. And I can 
still enjoy a quick download or two in my lab while all this bandwidth is being 
served.
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Pointers to debugging slow iSCSI initiator performance

2011-06-21 Thread Viren R. Shah
 

Folks

  I have a FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE system that I'm connecting via iSCSI to a
Compellent SAN. The iscsi-initiator works fine but is very slow and given
to periodic (very short) hangs.  The issue is that we have subversion on
it and it takes a long time to checkout some of our repos. Any pointers to
tweaking the config or figuring out the cause of the slowness is
appreciated. I haven't found many posts about the iscsi-initiator on
FreeBSD in my searches.

The config is below:

 

 

 

arachnophile# dd if=/dev/zero of=/san/test.out bs=1M count=2048

2048+0 records in

2048+0 records out

2147483648 bytes transferred in 145.111894 secs (14798812 bytes/sec)

 

 

arachnophile# uname -a

FreeBSD arachnophile.virtc.com 8.1-STABLE FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #0: Wed Oct
13 13:52:31 EDT 2010
r...@arachnophile.virtc.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ARACHNOPHILE  amd64

 

arachnophile# more /etc/iscsi.conf

compellent {

initiatorname   =   arach

TargetName  =
iqn.2002-03.com.compellent:5d3100067001

TargetAddress   =   172.30.0.10:3260,0

 

}

 

 

Hardware (in case it matters) is an IBM xSeries 346 

CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.40GHz (3400.16-MHz K8-class CPU)

real memory  = 2147483648 (2048 MB)

 

 

arachnophile# netstat -I bge1

NameMtu Network   Address  Ipkts Ierrs IdropOpkts
Oerrs  Coll

bge1   1500 Link#2  00:14:5e:2b:39:7d 353438253 0 0
438355075 0 0

bge1   1500 172.30.0.0172.30.0.66   353316523 - -
438348928 - -

 

Thanks

Viren Shah

vs...@raytheonvtc.com

 

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RE: 3par iscsi with 8.2?

2011-04-19 Thread timp
 iqn = iqn.2010-09.com.enovafinancial:01:nut.postgres01
 authmethod = none

I think you don't need such lines in iscsi.conf


 Login session: 
 postgres01# iscontrol -v -n path1 

After that what do you see in 'dmesg -a'?
And do you have logs at the iscsi target (3par)?

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RE: 3par iscsi with 8.2?

2011-04-18 Thread Ragona, Derek
Original Message-
From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org 
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of timp
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 1:25 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: 3par iscsi with 8.2?

No, I`m not. But have some experience in iscsi.
What kind of trouble do you have?
[Ragona, Derek] 
Here is the configuration and Systems calls trace output:

Conf:
path1 {
   targetaddress= 10.44.2.20
   targetname   = iqn.2000-05.com.3pardata:22110002ac000aba
   iqn = iqn.2010-09.com.enovafinancial:01:nut.postgres01
   initiatorName = iqn.2010-09.com.enovafinancial:01:nut.postgres01
   authmethod = none
   tags = 256
}

Discovery session:
postgres01# iscontrol -v -n path1 -d
port = 3260
tags = 256
 maxluns = 0
 iqn = iqn.2010-09.com.enovafinancial:01:nut.postgres01
  maxConnections = 1
maxRecvDataSegmentLength = 65536
maxXmitDataSegmentLength = 65536
  maxBurstLength = 131072
firstBurstLength = 65536
defaultTime2Wait = 0
  defaultTime2Retain = 0
   maxOutstandingR2T = 1
  errorRecoveryLevel = 0
targetPortalGroupTag = 0
headerDigest = None,CRC32C
  dataDigest = None,CRC32C
  initialR2T = 1
   immediateData = 1
  dataPDUInOrder = 1
 dataSequenceInOrder = 1
 sessionType = Normal
   targetAddress = 10.44.2.20
 targetAlias = (null)
  targetName = iqn.2000-05.com.3pardata:22110002ac000aba
   initiatorName = iqn.2010-09.com.enovafinancial:01:nut.postgres01
  initiatorAlias = (null)
  authMethod = none
  chapSecret = (null)
   chapIName = (null)
 tgtChapName = (null)
   tgtChapSecret = (null)
  tgttgtChallengeLen = 0
I-: cmd=0x3 len=310
SessionType=Discovery
InitiatorName=iqn.2010-09.com.enovafinancial:01:nut.postgres01
MaxBurstLength=131072
HeaderDigest=None,CRC32C
DataDigest=None,CRC32C
MaxRecvDataSegmentLength=65536
ErrorRecoveryLevel=0
DefaultTime2Wait=0
DefaultTime2Retain=0
DataPDUInOrder=Yes
DataSequenceInOrder=Yes
MaxOutstandingR2T=1
T-: cmd=0x23 len=269
TargetPortalGroupTag=211
MaxBurstLength=131072
HeaderDigest=None
DataDigest=None
MaxRecvDataSegmentLength=65536
ErrorRecoveryLevel=0
DefaultTime2Wait=2
DefaultTime2Retain=20
DataPDUInOrder=Yes
DataSequenceInOrder=Yes
MaxOutstandingR2T=1
InitialR2T=Yes
ImmediateData=No
I-: cmd=0x4 len=16
SendTargets=All
T-: cmd=0x24 len=87
TargetName=iqn.2000-05.com.3pardata:22110002ac000aba
TargetAddress=10.44.2.20:3260,211
TargetName=iqn.2000-05.com.3pardata:22110002ac000aba
TargetAddress=10.44.2.20:3260,211
I-: cmd=0x6 len=0
T-: cmd=0x26 len=0
postgres01#

Login session:
postgres01# iscontrol -v -n path1 
port = 3260
tags = 256
 maxluns = 0
 iqn = iqn.2010-09.com.enovafinancial:01:nut.postgres01
  maxConnections = 1
maxRecvDataSegmentLength = 65536
maxXmitDataSegmentLength = 65536
  maxBurstLength = 131072
firstBurstLength = 65536
defaultTime2Wait = 0
  defaultTime2Retain = 0
   maxOutstandingR2T = 1
  errorRecoveryLevel = 0
targetPortalGroupTag = 0
headerDigest = None,CRC32C
  dataDigest = None,CRC32C
  initialR2T = 1
   immediateData = 1
  dataPDUInOrder = 1
 dataSequenceInOrder = 1
 sessionType = Normal
   targetAddress = 10.44.2.20
 targetAlias = (null)
  targetName = iqn.2000-05.com.3pardata:22110002ac000aba
   initiatorName = iqn.2010-09.com.enovafinancial:01:nut.postgres01
  initiatorAlias = (null)
  authMethod = none
  chapSecret = (null)
   chapIName = (null)
 tgtChapName = (null)
   tgtChapSecret = (null)
  tgttgtChallengeLen = 0
I-: cmd=0x3 len=433
SessionType=Normal
InitiatorName=iqn.2010-09.com.enovafinancial:01:nut.postgres01
TargetName=iqn.2000-05.com.3pardata:22110002ac000aba
MaxBurstLength=131072
HeaderDigest=None,CRC32C
DataDigest=None,CRC32C
MaxRecvDataSegmentLength=65536
ErrorRecoveryLevel=0
DefaultTime2Wait=0
DefaultTime2Retain=0
DataPDUInOrder=Yes
DataSequenceInOrder=Yes
MaxOutstandingR2T=1
MaxConnections=1
FirstBurstLength=65536
InitialR2T=Yes
ImmediateData=Yes
T-: cmd=0x23 len=267
MaxBurstLength=131072
HeaderDigest=None
DataDigest=None
MaxRecvDataSegmentLength=65536
ErrorRecoveryLevel=0
DefaultTime2Wait=2

Re: 3par iscsi with 8.2?

2011-04-16 Thread timp
No, I`m not. But have some experience in iscsi.
What kind of trouble do you have?

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3par iscsi with 8.2?

2011-04-15 Thread Ragona, Derek
Is anyone connecting to 3par SAN units using iscsi with release 8.2?

I am trying to do this, and having some trouble.


-Derek

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FreeBSD 8.1 iSCSI CHAP with header and data digest

2011-02-24 Thread Dean E. Weimer
I am trying to connect my FreeBSD 8.1 system to a FreeNAS server 
hosting an iSCSI drive.  I can successfully connect if I disable header 
and data digests, but can't seem to get a connection using header and 
data digests to succeed.  I know the FreeNAS  side is correct because I 
was able to connect and successfully format the drive and write data to 
it using my Windows 7 PC with CHAP and digests enabled.  Here is my 
FreeBSD iscsi.conf file, do any of you have any idea what I am doing 
wrong?


webmail# vim /etc/iscsi.conf
## Global Config
InitiatorName=ign.2005-01.il.ac.huji.cs:webmail.dweimer.local;

## Targets
# FreeNAS Backup Drive
backup {
  TargetName=iqn.2007-09.jp.ne.peach.istgt:backup
  TargetAddress=192.168.1.2
  AuthMethod=CHAP
  chapIName=webmail
  chapSecret=Password1234
}


Also when I connect using the iscontrol -c /etc/iscsi.conf -n backup 
command, I can't find a way to disconnect the drive.  I ended up 
rebooting the server to disconnect it so I could go back to testing with 
digests enabled.  Does anyone know how to disconnect an iscsi connection 
once connected without rebooting?


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FreeBSD-8.1 on iscsi - Help Needed

2010-12-17 Thread Nihir Parikh
I am trying to install FreeBSD-8.1 on a iscsi target disk but when I start
installation it complains about No Hard disk found. I have iscsi enabled
network adapter and I can configure the iscsi disk in the network adapter's
iscsi ROM. When the system boots up from FreeBSD installation CD, I go to
the command prompt and load if_em, iscsi_initiator and iscsi modules. I can
run enable-module if_em command, but when I run enable-module
iscsi_initiator it complains that iscsi_initiator not found.

Has anyone installed FreeBSD on iscsi target? If so, what have you done so
that during installation FreeBSD sees iscsi target as a disk on which to
install the OS.

Thanks
Nihir
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zfs performance issues with iscsi (istgt)

2010-11-08 Thread DJ

After scratching my head for a few weeks, I've decided to ask for some help.

First, I've got two machines connected by gigabit ethernet, network performance 
is not a problem as I am able to substantially saturate the wire when not using 
iscsi [say iperf] or ftp. Both systems are 8.1-RELENG. They are both 
multi-core, 8G of RAM. 

Symptoms: When doing writes (size relatively independent) from a client to a 
server via iSCSI I seem to be
 hitting a wall between 18-26MB/s of write. This can be repeated continuously 
whether doing a newfs on a 2TB iscsi volume or doing a dd from /dev/zero to the 
iscsi target. I haven't compared read performance. What originally put me on to 
this was watching the newfs *fly* across the screen, and then hang for several 
seconds, and then *fly* again, and
 then pause. 

This looked like a write-delay problem, so I tweaked txgwrite values and/or the 
synctime values. This showed some improvements (iostat showed something closer 
to continuous write performance to the server but there was still a delay 
whether the write_limit was 384MB all the way up to 4GB. This tells me the 
spindles weren't holding the throughput back. The iostat size was never much 
beyond 20-26MB/s, peaks were frequently two-three times that, but then it would 
be 1MB/s for a few seconds which would bring us back to this average). CPU and 
network load were never the limiting factor, nor did the spindles ever get 
above 20-30% busy. 

So I added two USB keys that write at around 30-40MB/s, and mirrored them as a 
ZIL log. iostat verifies they are being used, but not continuously, it seems 
that the txgwrite value applies to writing to the ZIL. I also tried turning off 
the ZIL log and saw no particular performance increase (or
 decrease). When newfs (which jumps around a lot more than dd) the performance 
throughput does not change much at all. Even at 26K-40K pps, interrupt loads 
and such are not problematic, turning on polling does not change the 
performance appreciably.

The server is a RAIDZ2 of 15 drives @ 2TB each. So *write* throughput should 
be pretty fast sequentially (i.e. the dd case), but it is returning 
identically. This server does nothing much but istgt -- tried NCQ values from 
255 down to 32 to no improvement.

Even though network performance was not showing a particular limit, I *did* get 
from 18MB/s to 26MB/s by tweaking tcp sendbuf* and tcp send* values way beyond 
reason even though the TCP throughput hadn't been a problem in non iscsi 
operations.

So whatever i'm doing is not addressing the particular problem. The drives have 
plenty of available I/O, but instead of using it, or the RAM in the system, or 
the ZIL in the system, it seems
 largely idle, pegs the system with continuous (but not max speed) writes and 
halts the network transfers, and then continues on its way. 

Even if its a threading issue (i.e. we are single threading) there should be 
some way to make this behave like a normal system considering how much RAM, 
SSD, and other resources I'm trying to through at this thing. For example, 
after the buffer starts to empty, additional writes from the client should be 
accepted and NCQ should help reorder to process them in an efficient fashion, 
etc, etc. 

istgt settings:
istgt version 0.3
istgt extra version 20100707

    MaxSessions  32
    MaxConnections   32
    FirstBurstLength 65536
    MaxBurstLength   262144
    MaxRecvDataSegmentLength 262144

Local benchmarks like dd if=/dev/zero of=/tank/dump bs=1M count=12000 returns 
like 200MB/s. 12582912000 bytes transferred in 61.140903 secs (205801867 
bytes/sec), and show continuous (as expected) writes to the spindles. (200MB/s 
is pretty close to the max I/O speed we can expect given the port the 
controller is in and RAID overhead, etc with 7200 RPM drives, at 5900 RPM the 
number is about 80MB/s). 

If this is an istgt problem, is there a way to get reasonable performance out 
of it?

I know I'm not losing my mind here, so if someone has tackled this particular 
problem (or its sort), please chime in and let me know what tunable I'm 
missing. :)

Thanks very much, in advance,

DJ






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Re: zfs performance issues with iscsi (istgt)

2010-11-08 Thread Svein Skogen (Listmail account)
On 08.11.2010 09:13, DJ wrote:
 
 After scratching my head for a few weeks, I've decided to ask for some help.
 
 First, I've got two machines connected by gigabit ethernet, network 
 performance is not a problem as I am able to substantially saturate the wire 
 when not using iscsi [say iperf] or ftp. Both systems are 8.1-RELENG. They 
 are both multi-core, 8G of RAM. 
 
 Symptoms: When doing writes (size relatively independent) from a client to a 
 server via iSCSI I seem to be
  hitting a wall between 18-26MB/s of write. This can be repeated continuously 
 whether doing a newfs on a 2TB iscsi volume or doing a dd from /dev/zero to 
 the iscsi target. I haven't compared read performance. What originally put me 
 on to this was watching the newfs *fly* across the screen, and then hang for 
 several seconds, and then *fly* again, and
  then pause. 

I'll snip down this mail a little bit to ask some control questions
(having recently had quite a wrestle with iSCSI myself).

-Is jumbo frames involved? (and enabled on the initiator, all switches
in between, and the target)
-What's the number of PPS (some switches have PPS issues, which becomes
painfully relevant for small block IO)?  (I got rid of most of my
problems when I replaced the Netgear GS724Tv3 switch with a Cisco SG-300)
-Are you running digests?
-Do you have TSO/TSOv2 enabled at the endpoints?
-Does top -HSC reveal anything?
-Does systat -vmstat 1 reveal anything?
-What's the ICMP (ping) roundtrip times between the initiator and target
IPs?

//Svein

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6.4 Netapp iscsi

2010-06-14 Thread Alex Huth
Hello!

I have to implement Bacula using NetApp iscsi. I have already searched
for a while, but found only solutions for 7.x and higher or FreeBSD as
a iscsi target.
How can i do that on 6.4?

Greetings

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FreeBSD/iSCSI intiator into EMC Clarion target

2009-07-08 Thread Len Conrad
uname -a

FreeBSD xxx 7.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #0

kldstat

Id Refs AddressSize Name
 15 0xc040 97f830   kernel
 21 0xc0d8 ff18 iscsi_initiator.ko
 31 0xc0d9 6a2c4acpi.ko


iscontrol doesn't have -V version and strings doesn't find anything that looks 
like a version.


iscontrol -d -v -t 192.168.78.5 
port = 3260
tags = 0
 maxluns = 0
 iqn = iqn.2005-01.il.ac.huji.cs:
  maxConnections = 1
maxRecvDataSegmentLength = 65536
maxXmitDataSegmentLength = 65536
  maxBurstLength = 131072
firstBurstLength = 65536
defaultTime2Wait = 0
  defaultTime2Retain = 0
   maxOutstandingR2T = 1
  errorRecoveryLevel = 0
targetPortalGroupTag = 0
headerDigest = None,CRC32C
  dataDigest = None,CRC32C
  initialR2T = 1
   immediateData = 1
  dataPDUInOrder = 1
 dataSequenceInOrder = 1
 sessionType = Normal
   targetAddress = (null)
 targetAlias = (null)
  targetName = (null)
   initiatorName = (null)
  initiatorAlias = (null)
  authMethod = None
  chapSecret = (null)
   chapIName = (null)
 tgtChapName = (null)
   tgtChapSecret = (null)
  tgttgtChallengeLen = 0
I-: cmd=0x3 len=301
SessionType=Discovery
InitiatorName=iqn.2005-01.il.ac.huji.cs::mr1..net
MaxBurstLength=131072
HeaderDigest=None,CRC32C
DataDigest=None,CRC32C
MaxRecvDataSegmentLength=65536
ErrorRecoveryLevel=0
DefaultTime2Wait=0
DefaultTime2Retain=0
DataPDUInOrder=Yes
DataSequenceInOrder=Yes
MaxOutstandingR2T=1
T-: cmd=0x23 len=281
TargetPortalGroupTag=0
TargetAlias=1576.b3
HeaderDigest=None
DataDigest=None
MaxRecvDataSegmentLength=65536
MaxBurstLength=Irrelevant
DefaultTime2Wait=0
DefaultTime2Retain=0
MaxOutstandingR2T=Irrelevant
DataPDUInOrder=Irrelevant
DataSequenceInOrder=Irrelevant
ErrorRecoveryLevel=0
I-: cmd=0x4 len=16
SendTargets=All
recvpdu: Socket is not connected
recvpdu failed
I-: cmd=0x6 len=0
recvpdu: Socket is not connected
recvpdu failed

==

iniatator does work into a FreeBSD/iscsi-target:


# iscontrol -c /etc/iscsi.conf -n target0

iscontrol[817]: running
iscontrol[817]: (pass3:iscsi0:0:0:0):  tagged openings now 0
iscontrol[817]: cam_open_btl: no passthrough device found at 2:0:1
iscontrol[817]: cam_open_btl: no passthrough device found at 2:0:2
iscontrol[817]: cam_open_btl: no passthrough device found at 2:0:3
iscontrol: supervise starting main loop

#ll /dev/is*
crw---  1 root  wheel0,  27 Jul  8 13:29 /dev/iscsi
crw---  1 root  wheel0, 103 Jul  8 13:29 /dev/iscsi0

#ll /dev/da*
crw-r-  1 root  operator0,  90 Jul  8 13:29 /dev/da0
crw-r-  1 root  operator0,  91 Jul  8 13:29 /dev/da0s1
crw-r-  1 root  operator0,  92 Jul  8 08:30 /dev/da0s1a
crw-r-  1 root  operator0,  93 Jul  8 13:30 /dev/da0s1b
crw-r-  1 root  operator0,  94 Jul  8 13:29 /dev/da0s1c
crw-r-  1 root  operator0,  95 Jul  8 08:29 /dev/da0s1d
crw-r-  1 root  operator0,  96 Jul  8 08:29 /dev/da0s1e
crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 105 Jul  8 13:29 /dev/da1
crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 106 Jul  8 13:29 /dev/da1s1
crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 107 Jul  8 13:29 /dev/da1s1c
crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 108 Jul  8 13:29 /dev/da1s1d

#mount /dev/da1s1 /iscsitest/

#df
Filesystem  1K-blocksUsedAvail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/da0s1a  10154158  141662  9200164 2%/
devfs   1   10   100%/dev
/dev/da0s1d  20308398 1393604 17290124 7%/usr
/dev/da0s1e  40622090  292054 37080270 1%/var
/dev/da1s19907690 2990276  612480033%/iscsitest

=

Red Hat Enterprise iscsi initiator connects to EMC SAN target reliably.
If we can't get the FreeBSD iniatator working, we'll have to convert several 
machines from FreeBSD to Linux.

Len


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7.2-STABLE and iSCSI

2009-06-08 Thread FRLinux
Hello,

I am currently using a 7.2-STABLE with iSCSI enabled in the kernel. I
have tried to enable a file system which is 2.4TB in size (this is on
an amd64 architecture). I have followed different documentations I
found and can export an iSCSI target fine and initiate the iSCSI drive
either on a Linux or FreeBSD client.

I am using the /usr/ports/net/iscsi-target-20080207_2

The problem is concerning the size, as the maximum of the file system
I see is 800G out of 2.4TB. I have double checked the target (server)
and the initiator (client) and the cylinders is what does not match.
On the server I have a slice with 15000 cylinders whereas the client
sees only 4000 of them. All the other figures match.

So, did I hit a limitation or am I just doing something wrong?

Thanks for your help,
Steph
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Re: iSCSI initiator lockups

2009-03-11 Thread Danny Braniss
 
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 Content-Disposition: inline
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 In our last exciting episode, Danny Braniss (da...@cs.huji.ac.il) said:
  I guess it's time to fix this.
  danny
 
 Thank you very much for the pointer to the newer version; we have seen a=20
 marked improvement with none of the 30 second studdering. I appreciate
 your rapid assistance!

Good,
can you send me the info of the target/s you are using to add
to the list of supported targets?

Cheers,
danny


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Re: iSCSI initiator lockups

2009-03-10 Thread Danny Braniss
 
 --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 Content-Disposition: inline
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 I'm running into some odd headaches regarding what looks like iSCSI initiat=
 ors
 going to sleep for approximately 30 seconds before returning to life and
 pumping a ton of information back to the target. While this is happening,
 system load climbs up alarmingly fast. Looking at tcpdumps in Wireshark, it
 shows what appears to be a nearly exact 30 second delay where the initiator
 stops talking to the target server, then abruptly restarts. Currently
 8 machines are talking to 2 servers with 4 targets a piece, and while its=
 =20
 working, we get good throughput. Activity is moderately high, as we are=20
 using the iSCSI targets as spool disks in an email cluster. As it appears
 that iscsi-target is a single-threaded process, would it be valuable to
 put each target in its own process on its own port? At any rate, this is
 causing serious problems on the mail processing machines.
 
can you send me the output of
sysctl net.iscsi

chears,

danny

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iSCSI initiator lockups

2009-03-09 Thread Jason T. Nelson
I'm running into some odd headaches regarding what looks like iSCSI initiators
going to sleep for approximately 30 seconds before returning to life and
pumping a ton of information back to the target. While this is happening,
system load climbs up alarmingly fast. Looking at tcpdumps in Wireshark, it
shows what appears to be a nearly exact 30 second delay where the initiator
stops talking to the target server, then abruptly restarts. Currently
8 machines are talking to 2 servers with 4 targets a piece, and while its 
working, we get good throughput. Activity is moderately high, as we are 
using the iSCSI targets as spool disks in an email cluster. As it appears
that iscsi-target is a single-threaded process, would it be valuable to
put each target in its own process on its own port? At any rate, this is
causing serious problems on the mail processing machines.

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FreeBSD + Samba + OpenLDAP + iSCSI +Netapp , anyone ?

2009-03-06 Thread Frank Bonnet

Hello

All is in the subject :-) Does anyone has setup such server configuration

A server running FreeBSD and supporting Samba server software with 
OpenLDAP backend and using iSCSI as disk access protocol

to a Netapp filer for Samba volumes ?

I plan this so passed experiences are welcome !

Thanks a lot
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Re: FreeBSD + Samba + OpenLDAP + iSCSI +Netapp , anyone ?

2009-03-06 Thread Tim Judd
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 1:37 AM, Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr wrote:

 Hello

 All is in the subject :-) Does anyone has setup such server configuration

 A server running FreeBSD and supporting Samba server software with OpenLDAP
 backend and using iSCSI as disk access protocol
 to a Netapp filer for Samba volumes ?

 I plan this so passed experiences are welcome !

 Thanks a lot


I've done the Samba+OpenLDAP -- I have an install still running off that.
iSCSI isn't hard to add into it, but I've never heard or ran Netapp.  So I'd
offer my help with OpenLDAP+Samba.  iSCSI is easy (keeping in mind the ACL
built into iSCSI); and maybe someone else can help with Netapp.

Good Luck.
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Tool for benchmark local disk vs. iSCSI

2008-12-04 Thread Ewald Jenisch
Hi,

To gain an understanding on the performance of iSCSI vs. local disk IO
I'm looking for a tool.

My first thought was about iozone...

Any other ideas?

Thanks much in advance for your help,
-ewald

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Re: Tool for benchmark local disk vs. iSCSI

2008-12-04 Thread Wojciech Puchar


To gain an understanding on the performance of iSCSI vs. local disk IO
I'm looking for a tool.

My first thought was about iozone...

Any other ideas?


for linear transfer:dd


of course iSCSI disk will always be slower
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Re: Tool for benchmark local disk vs. iSCSI

2008-12-04 Thread Ivan Voras
Ewald Jenisch wrote:
 Hi,
 
 To gain an understanding on the performance of iSCSI vs. local disk IO
 I'm looking for a tool.
 
 My first thought was about iozone...

iozone is ok, but a little complex to run. Any disk benchmark will be ok
- bonnie++, blogbench, etc. but each has an emphasis on a different
aspect of the system. I think bonnie++ will be the simplest in your case.

Make sure you know what you're benchmarking - for example if the iSCSI
drive (target) is hosted as a file in a regular file system, it will be
overly (and dangerously) cached on the server.



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Re: Tool for benchmark local disk vs. iSCSI

2008-12-04 Thread Vincent Hoffman
Ewald Jenisch wrote:
 Hi,

 To gain an understanding on the performance of iSCSI vs. local disk IO
 I'm looking for a tool.

 My first thought was about iozone...
   
bonnie++ is ok too.
 Any other ideas?

 Thanks much in advance for your help,
 -ewald

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Re: Tool for benchmark local disk vs. iSCSI

2008-12-04 Thread Wojciech Puchar


My first thought was about iozone...


iozone is ok, but a little complex to run. Any disk benchmark will be ok
- bonnie++, blogbench, etc. but each has an emphasis on a different
aspect of the system. I think bonnie++ will be the simplest in your case.

can bonnie++ operate on raw device not filesystem?

he asked about disk benchmarked not disk+filesystem



Make sure you know what you're benchmarking - for example if the iSCSI
drive (target) is hosted as a file in a regular file system, it will be
overly (and dangerously) cached on the server.



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Re: Tool for benchmark local disk vs. iSCSI

2008-12-04 Thread Ivan Voras
Wojciech Puchar wrote:

 My first thought was about iozone...

 iozone is ok, but a little complex to run. Any disk benchmark will be ok
 - bonnie++, blogbench, etc. but each has an emphasis on a different
 aspect of the system. I think bonnie++ will be the simplest in your case.
 can bonnie++ operate on raw device not filesystem?
 
 he asked about disk benchmarked not disk+filesystem
 

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Re: ZFS over iSCSI anyone ?

2008-11-25 Thread Ivan Voras
Ivan Voras wrote:
 Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 04:29:06PM +0100, Ivan Voras wrote:
 Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 03:44:23PM +0100, Frank Bonnet wrote:
 Hello

 Does anyone has tried to use ZFS over iSCSI ?
 Another FreeBSD user recently brought to my attention problems with
 iSCSI on FreeBSD.  There is a patch available which fixes the issue, but
 I felt you might want to know about it beforehand.

 Issue:
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2008-February/003383.html

 Patch:
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2008-February/003387.html
 Isn't this committed already?
 The user tells me it is not, and that his replies to the patch author
 have gone ignored.
 
 It looks like the iSCSI developer disappeared - I got a bounce message
 (in French) on the last e-mail :(
 

It looks like there's new development in -CURRENT:
http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revisionrevision=185289




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Re: ZFS over iSCSI anyone ?

2008-11-25 Thread Frank Bonnet

Ivan Voras wrote:

Ivan Voras wrote:

Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 04:29:06PM +0100, Ivan Voras wrote:

Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 03:44:23PM +0100, Frank Bonnet wrote:

Hello

Does anyone has tried to use ZFS over iSCSI ?

Another FreeBSD user recently brought to my attention problems with
iSCSI on FreeBSD.  There is a patch available which fixes the issue, but
I felt you might want to know about it beforehand.

Issue:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2008-February/003383.html

Patch:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2008-February/003387.html

Isn't this committed already?

The user tells me it is not, and that his replies to the patch author
have gone ignored.

It looks like the iSCSI developer disappeared - I got a bounce message
(in French) on the last e-mail :(



It looks like there's new development in -CURRENT:
http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revisionrevision=185289



Well good news ! it seems to be integrated inside
operating system isn't it ?
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Re: ZFS over iSCSI anyone ?

2008-11-25 Thread Ivan Voras
2008/11/26 Frank Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Well good news ! it seems to be integrated inside
 operating system isn't it ?

Yes, the patch is for -CURRENT (which means it will be present in the
8.0 release; bug the developers if you need it earlier).
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ZFS over iSCSI anyone ?

2008-11-17 Thread Frank Bonnet

Hello

Does anyone has tried to use ZFS over iSCSI ?

Thanks
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Re: ZFS over iSCSI anyone ?

2008-11-17 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 03:44:23PM +0100, Frank Bonnet wrote:
 Hello

 Does anyone has tried to use ZFS over iSCSI ?

Another FreeBSD user recently brought to my attention problems with
iSCSI on FreeBSD.  There is a patch available which fixes the issue, but
I felt you might want to know about it beforehand.

Issue:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2008-February/003383.html

Patch:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2008-February/003387.html

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Re: ZFS over iSCSI anyone ?

2008-11-17 Thread Frank Bonnet

Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 03:44:23PM +0100, Frank Bonnet wrote:

Hello

Does anyone has tried to use ZFS over iSCSI ?


Another FreeBSD user recently brought to my attention problems with
iSCSI on FreeBSD.  There is a patch available which fixes the issue, but
I felt you might want to know about it beforehand.

Issue:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2008-February/003383.html

Patch:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2008-February/003387.html



Thanks a lot for you quick answer !


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Re: ZFS over iSCSI anyone ?

2008-11-17 Thread Ivan Voras
Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 03:44:23PM +0100, Frank Bonnet wrote:
 Hello

 Does anyone has tried to use ZFS over iSCSI ?
 
 Another FreeBSD user recently brought to my attention problems with
 iSCSI on FreeBSD.  There is a patch available which fixes the issue, but
 I felt you might want to know about it beforehand.
 
 Issue:
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2008-February/003383.html
 
 Patch:
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2008-February/003387.html

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Re: ZFS over iSCSI anyone ?

2008-11-17 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 04:29:06PM +0100, Ivan Voras wrote:
 Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
  On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 03:44:23PM +0100, Frank Bonnet wrote:
  Hello
 
  Does anyone has tried to use ZFS over iSCSI ?
  
  Another FreeBSD user recently brought to my attention problems with
  iSCSI on FreeBSD.  There is a patch available which fixes the issue, but
  I felt you might want to know about it beforehand.
  
  Issue:
  http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2008-February/003383.html
  
  Patch:
  http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2008-February/003387.html
 
 Isn't this committed already?

The user tells me it is not, and that his replies to the patch author
have gone ignored.

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Re: ZFS over iSCSI anyone ?

2008-11-17 Thread Ivan Voras
Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 04:29:06PM +0100, Ivan Voras wrote:
 Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 03:44:23PM +0100, Frank Bonnet wrote:
 Hello

 Does anyone has tried to use ZFS over iSCSI ?
 Another FreeBSD user recently brought to my attention problems with
 iSCSI on FreeBSD.  There is a patch available which fixes the issue, but
 I felt you might want to know about it beforehand.

 Issue:
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2008-February/003383.html

 Patch:
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2008-February/003387.html
 Isn't this committed already?
 
 The user tells me it is not, and that his replies to the patch author
 have gone ignored.

It looks like the iSCSI developer disappeared - I got a bounce message
(in French) on the last e-mail :(



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iSCSI support

2008-10-30 Thread Jeff Chen - PTT 陳龍焜
Hi,
My company is a storage RAID system company. There is one customer ask iSCSI 
solution with my production of my company with FreeBSD 6.1. But I found some 
information in the Internet, the iSCSI full support on FreeBSD is 7.0. Is it 
mean FreeBSD 6.1 can’t support iSCSI?

BR,
Jeff
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Re: iSCSI support

2008-10-30 Thread Ivan Voras
Jeff Chen - PTT 陳龍焜 wrote:
 Hi,
 My company is a storage RAID system company. There is one customer ask iSCSI 
 solution with my production of my company with FreeBSD 6.1. But I found some 
 information in the Internet, the iSCSI full support on FreeBSD is 7.0. Is it 
 mean FreeBSD 6.1 can’t support iSCSI?

Yes, the iSCSI initiator is in FreeBSD 7.x. Soon, FreeBSD 7.1 will be
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Re: iSCSI support

2008-10-30 Thread Wojciech Puchar
can't be iSCSI client, but iscsi-target is userlevel app, you may run on 
any FreeBSD (most probably under any unix).

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Re: iSCSI support

2008-10-30 Thread Chris St Denis
Jeff Chen - PTT 陳龍焜 wrote:
 Hi,
 My company is a storage RAID system company. There is one customer ask iSCSI 
 solution with my production of my company with FreeBSD 6.1. But I found some 
 information in the Internet, the iSCSI full support on FreeBSD is 7.0. Is it 
 mean FreeBSD 6.1 can’t support iSCSI?

 BR,
 Jeff
   
 

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There are some patches around to run it on 6.2 (maybe all of 6.x) but
the performance isn't very good.


I used this on 6.2 and it did work:
ftp://ftp.cs.huji.ac.il/users/danny/freebsd/iscsi-2.0.92.tar.gz

This looks like a more recent version (tho no guarantee it will work on
6.x): ftp://ftp.cs.huji.ac.il/users/danny/freebsd/iscsi-2.1.tar.gz
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Re: open-iscsi ?

2008-10-22 Thread Vincent Hoffman
Frank Bonnet wrote:
 Hello

 Does open-iscsi has been ported to FreeBSD at 7.x ?
 it doesn't seems to be at 6.x

   
Seems to be a linux specific implementation of iscsi and gnu licenced so
no we dont. However we have iscsi_initiator(4) in 7.x see the man pages
for details.
For a iscsi target daemon see net/iscsi-target in ports.

Vince
 thanks
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Re: open-iscsi ?

2008-10-22 Thread Frank Bonnet

Vincent Hoffman wrote:

Frank Bonnet wrote:

Hello

Does open-iscsi has been ported to FreeBSD at 7.x ?
it doesn't seems to be at 6.x

  

Seems to be a linux specific implementation of iscsi and gnu licenced so
no we dont. However we have iscsi_initiator(4) in 7.x see the man pages
for details.
For a iscsi target daemon see net/iscsi-target in ports.

Vince


Thanks I'm gonna check those ports.

Frank

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open-iscsi ?

2008-10-21 Thread Frank Bonnet
Hello

Does open-iscsi has been ported to FreeBSD at 7.x ?
it doesn't seems to be at 6.x

thanks
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FreeBSD and ISCSI, Strange Problem

2008-09-25 Thread Daniel Dias Gonçalves

I'm with a very strange problem in the FreeBSD 7.0R
I use the iscsi_initiator to mount two devices of a Dell MD3000i, the 
file system is UFS.
The problem occurs when I make a copy of a great directory for inside of 
the /data/email directory, passed some minutes of beginning of copy, the 
SSH connection stops to answer, when trying to open a new connection  
Password:  it isn't requested, in the console, when typing the user 
root e to press enter,  Password:  also it isn't requested. The only 
way to come back is restarting the FreeBSD.


When press CTRL+T during the freeze it is shown:
# ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
load: 0.76  cmd: ssh 86930 [sbwait] 0.00u 0.01s 0% 2076k

In another freeze it showed state [ufs]
During freeze, send and receive pings work fine, but no service runing work.

I already verified for some related LOG, however not see nothing related.

MOUNT:
/dev/da0s1g on /home (ufs, local, soft-updates)
/dev/da0s1f on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates)
/dev/da0s1d on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates)
/dev/da0s1e on /var (ufs, NFS exported, local, soft-updates)
/dev/da2s1d on /data/db (ufs, NFS exported, local, soft-updates)
/dev/da3s1d on /data/email (ufs, NFS exported, local, soft-updates)

DMESG:
Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
   The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Mon Sep 15 20:00:35 BRT 2008
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/GENERIC
Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU   E5410  @ 2.33GHz (2329.84-MHz 
686-class CPU)

 Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0x10676  Stepping = 6
 
Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
 
Features2=0xce3bdSSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,DCA,b19

 AMD Features=0x2010NX,LM
 AMD Features2=0x1LAHF
 Cores per package: 4
real memory  = 3484745728 (3323 MB)
avail memory = 3405615104 (3247 MB)
ACPI APIC Table: DELL   PE_SC3  
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  2
cpu3 (AP): APIC ID:  3
ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 4
ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
kbd1 at kbdmux0
ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413)
hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Sep 15 2008 20:00:23)
acpi0: DELL PE_SC3 on motherboard
acpi0: [ITHREAD]
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0
acpi_hpet0: High Precision Event Timer iomem 0xfed0-0xfed003ff on 
acpi0

Timecounter HPET frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900
cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
est0: Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control on cpu0
est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 720072006000720
device_attach: est0 attach returned 6
p4tcc0: CPU Frequency Thermal Control on cpu0
cpu1: ACPI CPU on acpi0
est1: Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control on cpu1
est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 720072006000720
device_attach: est1 attach returned 6
p4tcc1: CPU Frequency Thermal Control on cpu1
cpu2: ACPI CPU on acpi0
est2: Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control on cpu2
est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 720072006000720
device_attach: est2 attach returned 6
p4tcc2: CPU Frequency Thermal Control on cpu2
cpu3: ACPI CPU on acpi0
est3: Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control on cpu3
est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 720072006000720
device_attach: est3 attach returned 6
p4tcc3: CPU Frequency Thermal Control on cpu3
pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 2.0 on pci0
pci4: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1
pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 0.0 on pci4
pci5: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2
pcib3: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 0.0 on pci5
pci6: ACPI PCI bus on pcib3
pcib4: PCI-PCI bridge at device 0.0 on pci6
pci7: PCI bus on pcib4
bce0: Broadcom NetXtreme II BCM5708 1000Base-T (B2) mem 
0xf400-0xf5ff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci7

miibus0: MII bus on bce0
brgphy0: BCM5708C 10/100/1000baseTX PHY PHY 1 on miibus0
brgphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 
1000baseT-FDX, auto

bce0: Ethernet address: 00:1e:c9:b4:e5:2b
bce0: [ITHREAD]
bce0: ASIC (0x57081020); Rev (B2); Bus (PCI-X, 64-bit, 133MHz); F/W 
(0x04000305); Flags( MFW MSI )

pcib5: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci5
pci8: ACPI PCI bus on pcib5
pcib6: PCI-PCI bridge at device 0.3 on pci4
pci9: PCI bus on pcib6
pcib7: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 3.0 on pci0
pci1: ACPI PCI bus on 

iscsi multiple sessions per target support

2008-05-20 Thread Raja Subramanian
Hi,

I'm using FreeBSD 7.0 RELEASE on amd64 and want to connect
to an iSCSI storage array that has dual SAN controllers.  I have
two independent paths between my FreeBSD box and the storage
array -- dual NICs, ethernet switches, and controllers.

Given my situation, I want to ensure I get better performance and
failover by using both my paths to the iSCSI target.  I can't seem
to find this covered in any of the man pages or the handbook.

My storage array supports multiple sessions per target.  Does the
iSCSI initiator in 7.0 RELEASE support this feature?

If supported, how does one go about configuring it?

I'm sorry if this question is already covered in the literature.

Thanks in advance for any help!

- Raja
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Re: iSCSI initiator

2008-05-16 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Please clarify these :
(1) Is iSCSI initiator not currently implemented for FreeBSD ?

no idea.


(2) There is no iSCSI target daemon currently ?

/usr/ports/net/iscsi-target

unless you HAVE to interwork with iSCSI, use ggate.
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RE: iSCSI initiator

2008-05-16 Thread Tamouh H.
 
 Please clarify these :
 (1) Is iSCSI initiator not currently implemented for FreeBSD ?
 (2) There is no iSCSI target daemon currently ?
 

Check this post, it has step by step instructions for 6.x:

http://www.southernledger.com/blogs/ee99ee/?p=33


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iSCSI initiator

2008-05-15 Thread Onkar
Please clarify these :
(1) Is iSCSI initiator not currently implemented for FreeBSD ?
(2) There is no iSCSI target daemon currently ?

Regards,
Onkar
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Re: iSCSI initiator

2008-05-15 Thread Sahil Tandon
* Onkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [05-16-2008]:
  
 (1) Is iSCSI initiator not currently implemented for FreeBSD ?
  
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/announce.html

 (2) There is no iSCSI target daemon currently ?

net/iscsi-target

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Re: iSCSI initiator

2008-05-15 Thread Mark D. Foster

Sahil Tandon wrote:

* Onkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [05-16-2008]:
  
  

(1) Is iSCSI initiator not currently implemented for FreeBSD ?

  
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/announce.html


  

(2) There is no iSCSI target daemon currently ?



net/iscsi-target
  

Onkar, you may also find this helpful.
http://conshell.net/wiki/index.php/User:Fostermarkd/FreeBSD/iSCSI

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iSCSI and multi-terabyte support?

2007-10-10 Thread Kurt Buff
At my place of work, we're looking at implementing a SAN, most likely
with iSCSI, some time next year, and likely about 5-10TBytes.

I was wondering if FreeBSD could provide this on COTS hardware, but my
googling hasn't been successful.

From my reading of this list over the past couple of years, it seems
that both parts of the solution - iSCSI support and large disk support
- are still problematic, but I'd like to hear more informed opinion,
as the potential cost savings is quite large.

Anyone have recent-ish experience putting something like this together?

Kurt
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Re: iSCSI and multi-terabyte support?

2007-10-10 Thread pete wright
On 10/10/07, Kurt Buff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At my place of work, we're looking at implementing a SAN, most likely
 with iSCSI, some time next year, and likely about 5-10TBytes.

 I was wondering if FreeBSD could provide this on COTS hardware, but my
 googling hasn't been successful.

 From my reading of this list over the past couple of years, it seems
 that both parts of the solution - iSCSI support and large disk support
 - are still problematic, but I'd like to hear more informed opinion,
 as the potential cost savings is quite large.

 Anyone have recent-ish experience putting something like this together?


IMHO opinion I do not think FreeBSD is there...yet.  ZFS is addressing
many of the enterprise filesystem features that would be needed to
implement something on this scale, and there is the iSCSI target from
NetBSD available in the ports tree.

I think 7-RELEASE is going to be a solid foundation for building
solutions like this - but in the mean time it may be worth considering
OpenSolaris if are considering going the COTS path.

or - you can take a look at a company like Isilon Systems
(http://www.isilon.com/) which builds very scalable filers based on
FreeBSD.  I have beta tested their iSCSI implementation and it does
look good.

HTH
-pete


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Re: iSCSI and multi-terabyte support?

2007-10-10 Thread Kurt Buff
On 10/10/07, pete wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 10/10/07, Kurt Buff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  At my place of work, we're looking at implementing a SAN, most likely
  with iSCSI, some time next year, and likely about 5-10TBytes.
 
  I was wondering if FreeBSD could provide this on COTS hardware, but my
  googling hasn't been successful.
 
  From my reading of this list over the past couple of years, it seems
  that both parts of the solution - iSCSI support and large disk support
  - are still problematic, but I'd like to hear more informed opinion,
  as the potential cost savings is quite large.
 
  Anyone have recent-ish experience putting something like this together?
 

 IMHO opinion I do not think FreeBSD is there...yet.  ZFS is addressing
 many of the enterprise filesystem features that would be needed to
 implement something on this scale, and there is the iSCSI target from
 NetBSD available in the ports tree.

 I think 7-RELEASE is going to be a solid foundation for building
 solutions like this - but in the mean time it may be worth considering
 OpenSolaris if are considering going the COTS path.

 or - you can take a look at a company like Isilon Systems
 (http://www.isilon.com/) which builds very scalable filers based on
 FreeBSD.  I have beta tested their iSCSI implementation and it does
 look good.

 HTH
 -pete

Thanks - being a noob at this particular part of IT, I appreciate the feedback.

Kurt
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iSCSI hardware HBA status

2007-01-12 Thread pete wright

hi all,
i have tried googling for the current status of iSCSI software and
hardware HBA support in FreeBSD.  A lot of the hit's seem pretty
stale.  Is there active development going on with support hardware
iSCSI HBA's in current by any chance?  I have not been able to find
any listed cards.  For example I have a Qlogic 1gig 2port HBA with a
ISP4022 chipset.  Is any work being done on this?  I would be willing
to do some testing if time permits on my end.

thanks!

-pete

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Re: iSCSI

2007-01-09 Thread DAve

John Nielsen wrote:

On Monday 08 January 2007 14:52, DAve wrote:

We are moving to SAN in the near future to resolve a host of issues. I
have been looking through archives for information on FreeBSD and iSCSI
without much success.

We currently have 15 servers running FreeBSD and several more in the
queue/on order. It is looking like FreeBSD may not provide the
production level of iSCSI initiator we will require. (The iSCSI target
host will be a third party vendor)

I am sending a request for information to the project lead but I am also
interested in knowing if anyone is currently using any iSCSI with
FreeBSD and what your success failures might be.


I just started using the latest iSCSI initiator[1] on my 6-STABLE desktop to 
access some volumes on a LeftHand Networks SAN. It's a bit lacking in polish, 
but it works quite well. The one big missing feature is that it doesn't 
handle network disconnections. No panics or anything though, and performance 
was what I expected.


I'd be interested in what Danny tells you about the initiator's readiness for 
production use, but in any case you'll probably just have to do some 
stability and stress testing on your own.


[1] ftp://ftp.cs.huji.ac.il/users/danny/freebsd/iscsi-17.5.tar.bz2

JN


The developers response, for those who are interested.

hi Dave,
the initiator for iSCSI will hit stable/current real soon now.
that was the good news, now for the down side:
what was missing all along was recovery from network disconnects, so
while I think I have it almost worked out, I've come across a major
flow in the iscsi design:
when the targets crashes, and comes back, there is no way
to tell the client to run an fsck. This is not a problem if the client
is mounting the iscsi partition read only.

danny


Thanks everyone who responded on and off list to me.

DAve


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Re: iSCSI

2007-01-09 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jan 09), DAve said:
 The developers response, for those who are interested.
 
 hi Dave,
   the initiator for iSCSI will hit stable/current real soon now.
 that was the good news, now for the down side:
 what was missing all along was recovery from network disconnects, so
 while I think I have it almost worked out, I've come across a major
 flow in the iscsi design:
   when the targets crashes, and comes back, there is no way
 to tell the client to run an fsck. This is not a problem if the
 client is mounting the iscsi partition read only.
 
   danny

Why should the client need to do an fsck?  From its point of view it
should just look like the target had the iSCSI equivalent of a bus
reset.  It should resend any queued requests and continue.

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Re: iSCSI

2007-01-09 Thread DAve

Dan Nelson wrote:

In the last episode (Jan 09), DAve said:

The developers response, for those who are interested.

hi Dave,
the initiator for iSCSI will hit stable/current real soon now.
that was the good news, now for the down side:
what was missing all along was recovery from network disconnects, so
while I think I have it almost worked out, I've come across a major
flow in the iscsi design:
when the targets crashes, and comes back, there is no way
to tell the client to run an fsck. This is not a problem if the
client is mounting the iscsi partition read only.

danny


Why should the client need to do an fsck?  From its point of view it
should just look like the target had the iSCSI equivalent of a bus
reset.  It should resend any queued requests and continue.



That was my thought as well. I have my pop toasters all mounting a NFS 
mail store and when NFS goes away I don't have my NFS clients doing a 
fsck when the mount returns.


Not sure if that is important as iSCSI is all new to me, still reading 
up on it. Does FreeBSD do anything special to a NFS mount when it returns?


Should I subscribe to the SCSI list to continue this thread?

DAve

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Re: iSCSI

2007-01-09 Thread Jeff Mohler

That only works if the target comes up within the 2min window that
SCSI allows for.  It won't wait forever.

On 1/9/07, Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In the last episode (Jan 09), DAve said:
 The developers response, for those who are interested.

 hi Dave,
the initiator for iSCSI will hit stable/current real soon now.
 that was the good news, now for the down side:
 what was missing all along was recovery from network disconnects, so
 while I think I have it almost worked out, I've come across a major
 flow in the iscsi design:
when the targets crashes, and comes back, there is no way
 to tell the client to run an fsck. This is not a problem if the
 client is mounting the iscsi partition read only.

danny

Why should the client need to do an fsck?  From its point of view it
should just look like the target had the iSCSI equivalent of a bus
reset.  It should resend any queued requests and continue.

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Re: iSCSI

2007-01-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier
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 That was my thought as well. I have my pop toasters all mounting a NFS mail
 store and when NFS goes away I don't have my NFS clients doing a fsck when
 the mount returns.

 Not sure if that is important as iSCSI is all new to me, still reading up on
 it. Does FreeBSD do anything special to a NFS mount when it returns?

'k, maybe I'm misunderstanding things, but iSCSI != NFS ... iSCSI is just 
removing your SCSI drives from your local server and putting them in a 
different location (over an ethernet connection) ... with NFS, you have one 
server to which multiple clients can connect ... with iSCSI, you have a 
one-to-one mapping of a file system on the 'target' to the server in question 
... so, again, it was my understanding that stuff like an fsck is the 
responsibility of the server, not the target, same as if the SCSI drives were 
local to the server ...

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Re: iSCSI

2007-01-09 Thread DAve

Marc G. Fournier wrote:

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wrote:



That was my thought as well. I have my pop toasters all mounting a NFS mail
store and when NFS goes away I don't have my NFS clients doing a fsck when
the mount returns.

Not sure if that is important as iSCSI is all new to me, still reading up on
it. Does FreeBSD do anything special to a NFS mount when it returns?


'k, maybe I'm misunderstanding things, but iSCSI != NFS 


I never said it was, my rather poor example (I said I was new to iSCSI) 
was if a remote file system crashes, who should fsck it? The server 
(Target) or the client (Initiator)?


... iSCSI is just 
removing your SCSI drives from your local server and putting them in a 
different location (over an ethernet connection) ... with NFS, you have one 
server to which multiple clients can connect ... with iSCSI, you have a 
one-to-one mapping of a file system on the 'target' to the server in question 
... so, again, it was my understanding that stuff like an fsck is the 
responsibility of the server, not the target, same as if the SCSI drives were 
local to the server ...


As I thought. However, I clearly don't know much about iSCSI, though I 
know more with every page I read. I will always defer to those with 
experience, which is why I ask (sometimes stupid) questions ;^)


DAve


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Re: iSCSI

2007-01-09 Thread Jeff Mohler

I never said it was, my rather poor example (I said I was new to iSCSI)
was if a remote file system crashes, who should fsck it? The server
(Target) or the client (Initiator)?

---

Clearly, the initiator.  It owns the filesystem.  Its just a big
anonymous file on the target with no relevant structure that it cares
about.
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iSCSI

2007-01-08 Thread DAve
We are moving to SAN in the near future to resolve a host of issues. I 
have been looking through archives for information on FreeBSD and iSCSI 
without much success.


We currently have 15 servers running FreeBSD and several more in the 
queue/on order. It is looking like FreeBSD may not provide the 
production level of iSCSI initiator we will require. (The iSCSI target 
host will be a third party vendor)


I am sending a request for information to the project lead but I am also 
interested in knowing if anyone is currently using any iSCSI with 
FreeBSD and what your success failures might be.


Thank you,

DAve

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Re: iSCSI

2007-01-08 Thread John Nielsen
On Monday 08 January 2007 14:52, DAve wrote:
 We are moving to SAN in the near future to resolve a host of issues. I
 have been looking through archives for information on FreeBSD and iSCSI
 without much success.

 We currently have 15 servers running FreeBSD and several more in the
 queue/on order. It is looking like FreeBSD may not provide the
 production level of iSCSI initiator we will require. (The iSCSI target
 host will be a third party vendor)

 I am sending a request for information to the project lead but I am also
 interested in knowing if anyone is currently using any iSCSI with
 FreeBSD and what your success failures might be.

I just started using the latest iSCSI initiator[1] on my 6-STABLE desktop to 
access some volumes on a LeftHand Networks SAN. It's a bit lacking in polish, 
but it works quite well. The one big missing feature is that it doesn't 
handle network disconnections. No panics or anything though, and performance 
was what I expected.

I'd be interested in what Danny tells you about the initiator's readiness for 
production use, but in any case you'll probably just have to do some 
stability and stress testing on your own.

[1] ftp://ftp.cs.huji.ac.il/users/danny/freebsd/iscsi-17.5.tar.bz2

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Re: iSCSI

2007-01-08 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 14:52:06 -0500 DAve wrote:

 We are moving to SAN in the near future to resolve a host of issues. I
 have been looking through archives for information on FreeBSD and
 iSCSI without much success.

 We currently have 15 servers running FreeBSD and several more in the
 queue/on order. It is looking like FreeBSD may not provide the
 production level of iSCSI initiator we will require. (The iSCSI target
 host will be a third party vendor)

I didn't use them myself but I'll second for hearing about them:
http://ixsystems.com/storageiSCSI.php

 I am sending a request for information to the project lead but I am
 also interested in knowing if anyone is currently using any iSCSI with
 FreeBSD and what your success failures might be.


WBR
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Re: iSCSI

2007-01-08 Thread DAve

John Nielsen wrote:

On Monday 08 January 2007 14:52, DAve wrote:

We are moving to SAN in the near future to resolve a host of issues. I
have been looking through archives for information on FreeBSD and iSCSI
without much success.

We currently have 15 servers running FreeBSD and several more in the
queue/on order. It is looking like FreeBSD may not provide the
production level of iSCSI initiator we will require. (The iSCSI target
host will be a third party vendor)

I am sending a request for information to the project lead but I am also
interested in knowing if anyone is currently using any iSCSI with
FreeBSD and what your success failures might be.


I just started using the latest iSCSI initiator[1] on my 6-STABLE desktop to 
access some volumes on a LeftHand Networks SAN. It's a bit lacking in polish, 
but it works quite well. The one big missing feature is that it doesn't 
handle network disconnections. No panics or anything though, and performance 
was what I expected.


I'd be interested in what Danny tells you about the initiator's readiness for 
production use, but in any case you'll probably just have to do some 
stability and stress testing on your own.


[1] ftp://ftp.cs.huji.ac.il/users/danny/freebsd/iscsi-17.5.tar.bz2

JN




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Re: iSCSI

2007-01-08 Thread DAve

Boris Samorodov wrote:

On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 14:52:06 -0500 DAve wrote:


We are moving to SAN in the near future to resolve a host of issues. I
have been looking through archives for information on FreeBSD and
iSCSI without much success.



We currently have 15 servers running FreeBSD and several more in the
queue/on order. It is looking like FreeBSD may not provide the
production level of iSCSI initiator we will require. (The iSCSI target
host will be a third party vendor)


I didn't use them myself but I'll second for hearing about them:
http://ixsystems.com/storageiSCSI.php


I am sending a request for information to the project lead but I am
also interested in knowing if anyone is currently using any iSCSI with
FreeBSD and what your success failures might be.



WBR


iSCSI Target and iSCSI initiator are two different animals. The above is 
for hosting a iSCSI system, providing a target(I believe), we need to 
connect to it, using an initiator.


Thanks,

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Re: iSCSI setup

2006-10-31 Thread Jeff Mohler

I got bored, installed this on 5.3 with a Netapp F880.

Slow isnt the word..anyone else try this with similar results?

Like..max write speed is 600k/sec.



On 10/23/06, freebsd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,
 I'm trying to have my mailboxes put on iSCSI (NetAPP).
I downloaded iscsi-17.5.tar.bz2 and have several questions:
1) is there some more documentation on this driver?
2) someone has pointed out how to specify user and password to pass to
iscontrol?
3) Which is the correct way to put that source in the kernel and have it
compiled? What I need to add to my kernel config file?

Is there an howto specifying how to reach the final result of having my
FreeBSD boot and mount then iSCSI drive to /iSCSI/myvolume?
Thanks a lot


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iSCSI setup

2006-10-23 Thread freebsd

Hi,
I'm trying to have my mailboxes put on iSCSI (NetAPP).
I downloaded iscsi-17.5.tar.bz2 and have several questions:
1) is there some more documentation on this driver?
2) someone has pointed out how to specify user and password to pass to 
iscontrol?
3) Which is the correct way to put that source in the kernel and have it 
compiled? What I need to add to my kernel config file?


Is there an howto specifying how to reach the final result of having my 
FreeBSD boot and mount then iSCSI drive to /iSCSI/myvolume?
Thanks a lot 



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iSCSI support..

2006-10-12 Thread Jeff Mohler

Freebsd ever hope to have a stable supported iscsi layer?

Thanks for any hints.
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Re: iSCSI support..

2006-10-12 Thread Josef Grosch
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 08:37:27PM -0700, Jeff Mohler wrote:
 Freebsd ever hope to have a stable supported iscsi layer?
 
 Thanks for any hints.


I plan to starting testing FreeBSD 6.2 (when it is released) and iSCSI
within the next few weeks. We have seattled on an HP DL360 with a Broadcom
NIC talking to a NetApp. This will be our first pass at iSCSI. Should be
intresting. 



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Freebsd as iscsi / aoe target (server)

2006-09-13 Thread Norberto Meijome
Hi there,
can FreeBSD be used as an iSCSI target (i.e., serving the iscsi disks) ? 

idem AoE ...?

thanks!
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Re: iSCSI support

2005-11-23 Thread Richard Burakowski

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I have 3 datacentres connected by 12 core gig fibre (only using one pair
at the moment, but the fibre is there for future use) each connected
directly to the others.  I want a system that I can start off with one
disk server in one datacentre, and then step it up to have mirrored disk
servers in each of the other datacentre's which are kept up to date in
real time and can take over instantaneously if one of the others fails.

It must also be scalable (non destructive resizing of the system) and
support both linux and FreeBSD.  I am willing to wait for this, but can
anyone point me in the right direction.  iSCSI seems to be it, but I'm
not sure.
 

all, don't get network attached storage confused with network attached 
filesystem confused with clustered filesystem.


if you go for fibre channel network attached storage, it dosen't matter 
if the host and storage array are in the same cabinet, across the room 
or in different data centers.  if your requirement is only to have one 
host up at any time then it can raid1 3way mirror over the sites.


of course it gets really messy when one of the links goes down and you 
have to decide if it really has and not just the way your testing, who 
becomes master and enforce it so there's no corruption (if the down 
host continues writing).


you mention multiple cores and the datacenters connectected in a ring, 
which means you can multipath in both directions of the loop.  don't 
know of any fc multipathing for freebsd.


doing this in iscsi will be a lot cheaper.  switches will be gigE with 
fibre uplinks to connect the sites.  targets and initiators can be 
regular boxes with more/less/none directly attached disks, all connected 
via gig nics.  multipathing/link failures are handled by routing 
daemons/protocols which already exist.

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Re: iSCSI support

2005-11-22 Thread Wojciech Puchar

from people.


ICBW but to me it seems that iSCSI is like a distributed NFS backend.  You can
store the data on multiple devices, in multiple forms (as long as they
all talk iSCSI).  You can also have two storage sites (geographically
separate) connected by fibre and use those for storage.
same as NFS. while with iSCSI you have exported whole devices that can't 
be really shared with ease. and 100 times more expensive of course that 
just a cheap PC with cheap IDE drives..

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Re: iSCSI support

2005-11-22 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Nov 22), Wojciech Puchar said:
 from people.
 
 ICBW but to me it seems that iSCSI is like a distributed NFS backend.  You 
 can
 store the data on multiple devices, in multiple forms (as long as they
 all talk iSCSI).  You can also have two storage sites (geographically
 separate) connected by fibre and use those for storage.
 same as NFS. while with iSCSI you have exported whole devices that can't 
 be really shared with ease. and 100 times more expensive of course that 
 just a cheap PC with cheap IDE drives..

Whole devices accessed directly can be a lot faster than NFS, since the
client doesn't have to constantly ask the NFS server whether the file
it's currently accessing has changed.

And when a cheap IDE in one of the 100 servers in your server room goes
out, you have to find the server, figure out which drives it has in it
and which RAID controller it has, go to your spares cabinet and get the
right spare, swap the drive, load your raid management software, and
rebuild.  Unless you have a hotspare in each computer, but that's quite
a lot of wasted disks.  With a iSCSI/FC SAN setup, you probably have a
couple hotspares configured in your array already and it's rebuilt
automatically.  If a server needs a few more TB or storage, simply
create a new LUN and make it visible to the server.  If you want to set
up failover (or are running an OS that has clustered filesystems), make
one LUN visible to multiple machines.

There's also nothing that says the disks behind the iSCSI array can't
be cheap IDE drives.

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Re: iSCSI support

2005-11-22 Thread Wojciech Puchar

just a cheap PC with cheap IDE drives..


Whole devices accessed directly can be a lot faster than NFS, since the
client doesn't have to constantly ask the NFS server whether the file
it's currently accessing has changed.


any problem to add such option to NFS?? with iSCSI you just CAN't do it.
anyway this asking isn't bandwidth intensive, while adds delays. and it 
may affect of transfer speed for ONE process reading one file, but not 
multiuser system.





And when a cheap IDE in one of the 100 servers in your server room goes
out, you have to find the server, figure out which drives it has in it
and which RAID controller it has, go to your spares cabinet and get the


if company having this 100 servers (must be really huge company or really 
bad software using to need 100 servers) and their IT managers don't know 
what it where and don't know few basic unix command to localize the 
problem source - then here is a problem, and any kind of SAN won't fix it.

the real fix is to employ someone more competent.
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Re: iSCSI support

2005-11-22 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Wojciech Puchar wrote:


Whole devices accessed directly can be a lot faster than NFS, since the
client doesn't have to constantly ask the NFS server whether the file
it's currently accessing has changed.



any problem to add such option to NFS?? with iSCSI you just CAN't do it.
anyway this asking isn't bandwidth intensive, while adds delays. and 
it may affect of transfer speed for ONE process reading one file, but 
not multiuser system.


Regardless of whether iSCSI is any good, it's a common access method for 
SAN devices, and from what I've been told, may be the *only* access 
method.  So in heterogenous (read windows dominated) environment where 
you want to be able to access these things, an iSCSI initiator for 
FreeBSD can only be a good thing.


--Alex

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RE: iSCSI support

2005-11-22 Thread Ansar Mohammed
iSCSI enables block access to drives over IP. There is only so much you can
do with NFS and SMB. 




 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wojciech Puchar
 Sent: November 21, 2005 6:25 PM
 To: Josh Endries
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: iSCSI support
 
  and growing. I'm currently looking at a Coraid AoE
  (ATA-over-Ethernet) solution since it seems to have good support for
  FreeBSD and Windows drivers in the works. On the other hand, iSCSI
  has Windows support and FreeBSD in the works.
 
 stupid question: can anyone explain me the sense and adventages of iSCSI
 compared to say NFS? for me it's just some more layer to take lots of $$$
 from people.
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Re: iSCSI support

2005-11-22 Thread Wojciech Puchar
affect of transfer speed for ONE process reading one file, but not 
multiuser system.


Regardless of whether iSCSI is any good, it's a common access method for SAN 
devices, and from what I've been told, may be the *only* access method.  So 
AFAIK it's SCSI over FC, SCSI over IP was next probably to eliminate 
expensive FC, that was invented first to make things more expensive.
looks like politicians - first they get 1000$, then give 100$ back and 
say how much they gave ;)


anyway - for already existing iSCSI devices driver won't hurt of course, 
but i'm sure nobody that understand things won't invest in such 
technologies.

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Re: iSCSI support

2005-11-22 Thread oxo
On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 07:13:45PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 anyway - for already existing iSCSI devices driver won't hurt of course, 
 but i'm sure nobody that understand things won't invest in such 
 technologies.

I've been looking at iSCSI, but if someone can suggest a better
alternative I'd be happy to use it, as I haven't bought anything yet.

I have 3 datacentres connected by 12 core gig fibre (only using one pair
at the moment, but the fibre is there for future use) each connected
directly to the others.  I want a system that I can start off with one
disk server in one datacentre, and then step it up to have mirrored disk
servers in each of the other datacentre's which are kept up to date in
real time and can take over instantaneously if one of the others fails.

It must also be scalable (non destructive resizing of the system) and
support both linux and FreeBSD.  I am willing to wait for this, but can
anyone point me in the right direction.  iSCSI seems to be it, but I'm
not sure.

-John
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iSCSI support

2005-11-21 Thread Josh Endries
I read in the status report that work is being done on iSCSI, which
is awesome. We're putting in a SAN at work, starting at probably 8 TB
and growing. I'm currently looking at a Coraid AoE
(ATA-over-Ethernet) solution since it seems to have good support for
FreeBSD and Windows drivers in the works. On the other hand, iSCSI
has Windows support and FreeBSD in the works.

Has anyone out there had experience with either iSCSI or Coraid/AoE
on FreeBSD for a SAN? I'd like to know what NICs/HBAs and stuff works
well and what doesn't, if anyone has experience with it.

Thanks,
Josh
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Re: iSCSI support

2005-11-21 Thread Wojciech Puchar

and growing. I'm currently looking at a Coraid AoE
(ATA-over-Ethernet) solution since it seems to have good support for
FreeBSD and Windows drivers in the works. On the other hand, iSCSI
has Windows support and FreeBSD in the works.

stupid question: can anyone explain me the sense and adventages of iSCSI 
compared to say NFS? for me it's just some more layer to take lots of $$$ 
from people.

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Re: iSCSI support

2005-11-21 Thread John Oxley
On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 12:24:49AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 and growing. I'm currently looking at a Coraid AoE
 (ATA-over-Ethernet) solution since it seems to have good support for
 FreeBSD and Windows drivers in the works. On the other hand, iSCSI
 has Windows support and FreeBSD in the works.
 
 stupid question: can anyone explain me the sense and adventages of iSCSI 
 compared to say NFS? for me it's just some more layer to take lots of $$$ 
 from people.

ICBW but to me it seems that iSCSI is like a distributed NFS backend.  You can
store the data on multiple devices, in multiple forms (as long as they
all talk iSCSI).  You can also have two storage sites (geographically
separate) connected by fibre and use those for storage.

-John
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NDAS or iSCSI

2005-09-07 Thread Ansar Mohammed
Is there a mature implementation of either iSCSI targets or NDAS (Ximeta)
for FreeBSD?
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Re: NDAS or iSCSI

2005-09-07 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Sep 06), Ansar Mohammed said:
 Is there a mature implementation of either iSCSI targets or NDAS
 (Ximeta) for FreeBSD?

There were at least two attempts at an iSCSI driver, but neither ended
up releasing anything.  ximeta's web site says NDAS is patented, but it
looks similar to FreeBSD's geom gate server.

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Re: iSCSI (revisited?)

2005-04-06 Thread Micheal Patterson



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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 5:30 PM
Subject: iSCSI (revisited?)


 All,

 I was wondering what people thought of iSCSI and FreeBSD. Is it a viable
 option for creating SANs?

 I want to move away from tape backups, and have numerous production
 FreeBSD machines that I need to back up data from.

 Any other ideas for a disk to disk backup solution that people have used?

 Thanks,

 Justin



Justin, what I'm currently using is the following for just that:

Promise Vtrak 15100 with 15 250gb sata's, connected to a dual channel
Adaptec 39160 housed in a Compaq ML 330 running FreeBSD 5.3. The Vtrak has 2
logical arrays assigned, where my other 14 servers (windows and freebsd
alike) back up to one or the other arrays. I have one array shared via nfs
for the bsd boxes to back up to and the other is samba shared so that
windows systems can back up to that one. So far, it's worked well for me.
All I need to do now is get the company to realize they still need tape if
they want long term storage and then I can chain that to the Promise raid
and have it back up to take during the day and still have my backup window
in the early morning hours.

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Re: iSCSI (revisited?)

2005-04-05 Thread Danny Braniss
 All,
 
 I was wondering what people thought of iSCSI and FreeBSD. Is it a viable 
 option for creating SANs?
 
refrase question.

 I want to move away from tape backups, and have numerous production 
 FreeBSD machines that I need to back up data from.
 
for one, it depends on how deep are your pockets, 2nd the size of your data.
3rd how fast do you need to access the data, 4th from where, etc, etc, etc.

 Any other ideas for a disk to disk backup solution that people have used?
 
We went the NAS/NFS route for most of our uses, and ONE application that has a
huge database has a fiber channel link to the filer.

The NAS is Raid4, with hot standbys, and we have not had a serious meltdown in
years. Before NAS, we had to upgrade our servers, dump|restore, and the down
times were getting larger, with the NAS, just add some disks, and no one
is the wiser, life goes on.

We still do tape backups, and move the tapes out of our premises just in case
a major disaster hist us (someone misspoint a ICBM perhaps :-)

having said all this, we are experimenting with iSCSI, and the numbers are
not bad, about the same as NFS/NAS. Still, NFS is still our prefered
solution.

danny
PS: AFAIK, there is only a iSCSI intitiator (beta), and no target for FreeBSD.


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iSCSI (revisited?)

2005-04-04 Thread Justin Bennett
All,
I was wondering what people thought of iSCSI and FreeBSD. Is it a viable 
option for creating SANs?

I want to move away from tape backups, and have numerous production 
FreeBSD machines that I need to back up data from.

Any other ideas for a disk to disk backup solution that people have used?
Thanks,
Justin
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Re: iSCSI (revisited?)

2005-04-04 Thread John Pettitt


Justin Bennett wrote:

 All,

 I was wondering what people thought of iSCSI and FreeBSD. Is it a
 viable option for creating SANs?

 I want to move away from tape backups, and have numerous production
 FreeBSD machines that I need to back up data from.

 Any other ideas for a disk to disk backup solution that people have used?

 Thanks,

 Justin

For disk-to-disk backup take a look at BackupPC (don't let the name fool
you it supports *nix clients).   The nice thing about BackupPC is it
does file pooling which saves *a lot* of space.

John
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Re: iSCSI (revisited?)

2005-04-04 Thread Eric Anderson
Justin Bennett wrote:
All,
I was wondering what people thought of iSCSI and FreeBSD. Is it a viable 
option for creating SANs?

I want to move away from tape backups, and have numerous production 
FreeBSD machines that I need to back up data from.

Any other ideas for a disk to disk backup solution that people have used?
You should check out rsnapshot.  It does disk to disk backups either 
locally, or via ssh.  I am using it to snapshot about 2TB of data to a 10TB 
(total) SAN, based on fiber channel.  All FreeBSD backend, with assorted 
servers I'm backing up.
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iSCSI support?

2005-02-28 Thread Sam Farmer
What version(s) of FreeBSD, if any, support iSCSI storage connectivity?
Is there an open source FreeBSD iSCSI driver which would work with
ethernet adapters listed on the hardware compatibility lists? Do FreeBSD
drivers exist for iSCSI HBAs by Adaptec, Alacritech, Qlogic and/or
Intel? Any relevent information would be most helpful. Thanks!
 
Sam Farmer 
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Cambridge Computer Services, Inc. 
Artists in Data Storage 
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Re: iSCSI support?

2005-02-28 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Feb 28), Sam Farmer said:
 What version(s) of FreeBSD, if any, support iSCSI storage connectivity?
 Is there an open source FreeBSD iSCSI driver which would work with
 ethernet adapters listed on the hardware compatibility lists? Do FreeBSD
 drivers exist for iSCSI HBAs by Adaptec, Alacritech, Qlogic and/or
 Intel? Any relevent information would be most helpful. Thanks!

You're in luck ):  Last week, Danny Braniss posted that he was looking
for testers for an iSCSI initiator (for regular NICs) that he just
finished.

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2005-February/001740.html

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iSCSI support in FreeBSD?

2004-06-21 Thread Forrest Aldrich
Is there planned iSCSI support in FreeBSD 4 or 5.

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