Re: installation sequence
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 01:29:26AM +, b. f. typed: Lane Holcombe wrote: Here's what you do: Setup for yourself a local cvs repository like so: portinstall -Pp net/cvsup-mirror You have to make decisions about what to mirror, but in the end you will have a semi-authoritative mirror of all the source and ports for the whole dang FreeBSD development tree, that will maintain itself and be ready when you need it. It's good advice to make sure that you are using a base system and ports tree that are up-to-date, or at least contemporaneous and from a stable snapshot. But it seems to me to be overkill to ask someone who is having trouble installing ports to mirror the FreeBSD repository. Snapshots downloaded per the instructions in the FreeBSD Handbook ought to be enough for most people. Besides, an uptodate portstree is no guarantee at all that all ports will compile and/or all dependencies will work. That's why there are periods of ports freeze before every RELEASE. On a desktop system, I tend to use binary packages only, coming with the release. Ruben ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: installation sequence
PJ wrote: Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors? I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22, cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted... usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an ordered universe! But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and a number of pretty cumbersome applications. I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al. So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to ldap...util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up with Error code 1. Exactly the same installation with the same configuration on the smaller installation went without a hitch... (and on the same computer, different disk) The versions are the latest available and on 7.2... I have tried uninstalling php5, openldap, and removing the work directory for apache22, but the result is always the same... this is absurd. Can anybody make any sense of this... I don't like the idea of starting all over again... done that, been there, and still looking for some rationality to this world. Thanks for any ideas... ___ Not entirely sure this is totally relevant, but I wouldn't install any packages or third party apps when first installing a fresh system. The packages built at the time the release CD was created are already out of date and the ports tree has moved forward. It's OK to go ahead and install the ports tree as part of the fresh install, however do not use it! The first thing I do after a fresh install is to csup the ports tree to '*default release=cvs tag=.'. (I know it's silly but don't confuse the tag=. with the end of sentence.) You have the best chance now for dependency tracking to be dead on, but the chance always remains that at any one given point in time there may be errors. The ports tree is fluid and changes constantly. Usually if there is a problem and the port(s) maintainers are made aware they get it fixed fairly quick and a quick csup after they repair will make it all good again. Also realize that the previously mentioned tag if applied to src-all will pull down the sources for -CURRENT/HEAD. I have two separate sup files for each collection, one for source and one for ports. You can put them both in the same supfile if you want and there have been recent examples posted, you just have to make sure to get it right or you'll have a real mess. In other words, be aware of the different tags between tracking src-all and ports- all. Should you use the wrong tag to track ports-all you may experience inconsistent problems. On another note, should you find yourself in a position where you have two perfectly identical machines sitting next to each other, e.g., you know positively for a fact that everything is the same such as ports tree freshly csup'ed, etc, and one machine is barfing during compiling you may have a marginally bad hardware memory problem. Compiling (especially make world/kernel) really hits the memory hard. I once had a machine whose memory would 'sing' with an audible tone only during compilation. Such a noise in chip circuitry is an oscillation which should not happen and if you continue to operate the chip under that set of conditions it will fry. About the only thing you could try in this scenario would be to add latency clocks to the RAM in the mainboard BIOS. Whether this actually helps would really only be test of the hypothesis and not a true fix. Most memory should just auto time itself by SPD and shouldn't need to be 'slowed down'. If I saw this I'd replace the memory with new, as if it can't operate correctly at the SPD timings it is of substandard quality. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: installation sequence
Neal Hogan wrote: On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:12 PM, PJaf.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors? I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22, cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted... usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an ordered universe! But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and a number of pretty cumbersome applications. I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al. So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to ldap...util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up with Error code 1. Exactly the same installation with the same configuration on the smaller installation went without a hitch... (and on the same computer, different disk) The versions are the latest available and on 7.2... I have tried uninstalling php5, openldap, and removing the work directory for apache22, but the result is always the same... this is absurd. Can anybody make any sense of this... I don't like the idea of starting all over again... done that, been there, and still looking for some rationality to this world. Thanks for any ideas... Again, not to be rude (to you or fBSD) . . . but why stick with something that is giving you soo much trouble? There are a bunch of open source distros out there. I can appreciate that you do not want to f'around with another distro for another week . . . but . . . From other posts, it sounded like you have recovered the essential files. Rationality may dictate you moving on. The only thing I can suggest that may help those who know better, is to post the demsg's of the two machines (the one that works and the pain in the ass), given that they are different machines. What happened to the faulty hardware idea? I dunno . . . good luck! First, the problem is not FreeBSD... it is the idiots who think they know how to deal with a lot of stuff and then post all sorts of stuff that just confuses the hell out of simpletons like me. I made the mistake of thinking some jerk had written a little script that would do an update of ports with csup... well, I did post looking for an explanation of why the damned thing didn't work... and the responses I got were rather cryptic and din't explain anything even though a good programmer would have understood it would not work... :-) I'm certainly not a programmer in the professional sense at all... so in thinking about the problem I saw that the ports were not being correctly updated... once I got that right, everything worked fine. I even fixed that little script and updates are a cinch. As for faulty hardware... haven't found any up to now... I hae just 1 drive left to check and I'll know for sure... ;-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: installation sequence
Lane Holcombe wrote: I'm all over this! Here's what you do: Setup for yourself a local cvs repository like so: portinstall -Pp net/cvsup-mirror You have to make decisions about what to mirror, but in the end you will have a semi-authoritative mirror of all the source and ports for the whole dang FreeBSD development tree, that will maintain itself and be ready when you need it. Next, when ever you do a fresh install of FreeBSD whatever, the first thing you do after the install is update your source and ports try by creating a cvsupfile, (I always keep one in /usr/local/etc/cvsupfile) like this: begin cvsupfile *default host=IP.OF.YOUR.LOCAL.CVS.MIRROR *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix tag=RELENG_7 *default compress src-all src-contrib ports-all tag=. /end cvsupfile Note that the begin and /end tags are put in the email for clarity, but should NOT appear in your cvsup file. I think src-contrib is overkill, but I've not bothered to find out because I'm pretty lazy. Note, also that RELENG_7 is just what I'm using now. You should adjust to the FreeBSD whatever that you just installed. So after you put the cvsupfile in place, run this on your new install: csup -g -L2 /path/to/cvsupfile Note, again, that csup does *not* get installed with *base before like 6.3 or something ... can't remember which. Did I mention lazy? If you are going back that far you have to install csup from ports or install cvsup from ports. (Which may likely put you back at square one where you have to work through the build failures - it ain't perfect, but it's nearly there!) Anyway, the point is you should always, always, always update your ports tree after a new install so you don't have build failures to stump you. And you still might get those :) So you should consider REBUILDING WORLD immediately after you do a new install. And THEN build/install whatever ports you need ... Ok, I normally do something like that... problem here was that I made the mistake of thinking that an interesting little script I found was good for updating... but, I was sadly mistaken. The error was due to a badly downloaded ports tree. That fixed, all works fine. I really only have problems when some extraneous garbage comes along and I'm suckere in to try it. Here's the script (I modified it and it seems to work just fine) but I sure would like to hear if that makes sense. I called it update.ports and it runs from any directory. It can be changed to update source and docs if so desired or all could be done from same script. Let me know, please, if it's ok? == #!/bin/sh # # Update source, docs and ports LOCAL_DIR=$(pwd) cd /usr/share/examples/cvsup csup ports-supfile cd /usr/ports make fetchindex /usr/local/sbin/portsdb -u /usr//local/sbin/pkgdb -uvF cd $LOCAL_DIR === Good Luck! lane On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 19:12 -0400, PJ wrote: Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors? I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22, cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted... usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an ordered universe! But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and a number of pretty cumbersome applications. I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al. So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to ldap...util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up with Error code 1. Exactly the same installation with the same configuration on the smaller installation went without a hitch... (and on the same computer, different disk) The versions are the latest available and on 7.2... I have tried uninstalling php5, openldap, and removing the work directory for apache22, but the result is always the same... this is absurd. Can anybody make any sense of this... I don't like the idea of starting all over again... done that, been there, and still looking for some rationality to this world. Thanks for any ideas... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
Re: installation sequence
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:01 PM, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Lane Holcombe wrote: I'm all over this! Here's what you do: Setup for yourself a local cvs repository like so: portinstall -Pp net/cvsup-mirror You have to make decisions about what to mirror, but in the end you will have a semi-authoritative mirror of all the source and ports for the whole dang FreeBSD development tree, that will maintain itself and be ready when you need it. Next, when ever you do a fresh install of FreeBSD whatever, the first thing you do after the install is update your source and ports try by creating a cvsupfile, (I always keep one in /usr/local/etc/cvsupfile) like this: begin cvsupfile *default host=IP.OF.YOUR.LOCAL.CVS.MIRROR *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix tag=RELENG_7 *default compress src-all src-contrib ports-all tag=. /end cvsupfile Note that the begin and /end tags are put in the email for clarity, but should NOT appear in your cvsup file. I think src-contrib is overkill, but I've not bothered to find out because I'm pretty lazy. Note, also that RELENG_7 is just what I'm using now. You should adjust to the FreeBSD whatever that you just installed. So after you put the cvsupfile in place, run this on your new install: csup -g -L2 /path/to/cvsupfile Note, again, that csup does *not* get installed with *base before like 6.3 or something ... can't remember which. Did I mention lazy? If you are going back that far you have to install csup from ports or install cvsup from ports. (Which may likely put you back at square one where you have to work through the build failures - it ain't perfect, but it's nearly there!) Anyway, the point is you should always, always, always update your ports tree after a new install so you don't have build failures to stump you. And you still might get those :) So you should consider REBUILDING WORLD immediately after you do a new install. And THEN build/install whatever ports you need ... Ok, I normally do something like that... problem here was that I made the mistake of thinking that an interesting little script I found was good for updating... but, I was sadly mistaken. The error was due to a badly downloaded ports tree. That fixed, all works fine. I really only have problems when some extraneous garbage comes along and I'm suckere in to try it. Here's the script (I modified it and it seems to work just fine) but I sure would like to hear if that makes sense. I called it update.ports and it runs from any directory. It can be changed to update source and docs if so desired or all could be done from same script. Let me know, please, if it's ok? == #!/bin/sh # # Update source, docs and ports LOCAL_DIR=$(pwd) cd /usr/share/examples/cvsup csup ports-supfile cd /usr/ports make fetchindex /usr/local/sbin/portsdb -u /usr//local/sbin/pkgdb -uvF cd $LOCAL_DIR === Good Luck! lane On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 19:12 -0400, PJ wrote: Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors? I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22, cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted... usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an ordered universe! But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and a number of pretty cumbersome applications. I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al. So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to ldap...util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up with Error code 1. Exactly the same installation with the same configuration on the smaller installation went without a hitch... (and on the same computer, different disk) The versions are the latest available and on 7.2... I have tried uninstalling php5, openldap, and removing the work directory for apache22, but the result is always the same... this is absurd. Can anybody make any sense of this... I don't like the idea of starting all over again... done that,
Re: Installation sequence
from same script. Let me know, please, if it's ok? Well, not quite. == #!/bin/sh # # Update source, docs and ports LOCAL_DIR=$(pwd) You don't need to change directories if you change some of the commands slightly, so the above line and the last line are unnecessary. cd /usr/share/examples/cvsup csup ports-supfile The example scripts shouldn't be run as-is: you need to edit them first, or issue more flags on the command-line. For instance, for the ports-supfile you need at least to either change the *default host ... line to use the server of your choice, or issue a -h flag with the right server in your script. (The choice of the right server can make a substantial difference in how long this process takes -- you can experiment with different servers, and/or use the sysutils/fastest_cvsup port to find one that works well for you. Not every server is updated at the same interval.) Also, you can avoid changing directories by just using a full path to the cvsup script file. So, for example, you should replace the above two lines in the script with something like: csup -L 2 -h cvsup1.ca.FreeBSD.org /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile I prefer to increase the verbosity with the -L switch, so that I have a better idea of what's happening if something goes wrong. All of this is covered in the FreeBSD Handbook. Also, you need not use csup(1) at all if you prefer to use portsnap(8) instead. cd /usr/ports make fetchindex /usr/local/sbin/portsdb -u You don't need all of the three previous lines: you can just run 'portsdb -F' or 'portsdb -Fu' instead. Also, these lines and the line below require one of the portupgrade ports to be installed, but I guess you know that. If you're not planning on using portupgrade, then don't use the portsdb or pkgdb commands, but just run: 'make -C /usr/ports fetchindex' instead. /usr//local/sbin/pkgdb -uvF cd $LOCAL_DIR As I mentioned, you don't need this last line. b. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: installation sequence
PJ wrote: [snip] Ok, I normally do something like that... problem here was that I made the mistake of thinking that an interesting little script I found was good for updating... but, I was sadly mistaken. The error was due to a badly downloaded ports tree. That fixed, all works fine. I really only have problems when some extraneous garbage comes along and I'm suckere in to try it. Here's the script (I modified it and it seems to work just fine) but I sure would like to hear if that makes sense. I called it update.ports and it runs from any directory. It can be changed to update source and docs if so desired or all could be done from same script. Let me know, please, if it's ok? == #!/bin/sh # # Update source, docs and ports LOCAL_DIR=$(pwd) cd /usr/share/examples/cvsup csup ports-supfile cd /usr/ports make fetchindex /usr/local/sbin/portsdb -u /usr//local/sbin/pkgdb -uvF cd $LOCAL_DIR === I essentially do something very similar. About once a week I do this: csup -L 2 ports portsdb -uF pkgdb -u portversion This pretty much does the same thing as the script. I keep intending to make it a cron job and email me the output, but until I get 'round to it I just take a quick gander at the output and if needed issue a portupgrade -a. 9.8 times out of 10 this is all I ever need. Every once in a while I have to manually fix something, but that isn't all that often, maybe once or twice a year. Another thing is to read UPDATING religiously as this can help sidestep boo boos before they happen. [snip] -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
installation sequence
Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors? I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22, cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted... usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an ordered universe! But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and a number of pretty cumbersome applications. I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al. So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to ldap...util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up with Error code 1. Exactly the same installation with the same configuration on the smaller installation went without a hitch... (and on the same computer, different disk) The versions are the latest available and on 7.2... I have tried uninstalling php5, openldap, and removing the work directory for apache22, but the result is always the same... this is absurd. Can anybody make any sense of this... I don't like the idea of starting all over again... done that, been there, and still looking for some rationality to this world. Thanks for any ideas... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: installation sequence
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:12 PM, PJaf.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors? I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22, cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted... usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an ordered universe! But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and a number of pretty cumbersome applications. I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al. So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to ldap...util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up with Error code 1. Exactly the same installation with the same configuration on the smaller installation went without a hitch... (and on the same computer, different disk) The versions are the latest available and on 7.2... I have tried uninstalling php5, openldap, and removing the work directory for apache22, but the result is always the same... this is absurd. Can anybody make any sense of this... I don't like the idea of starting all over again... done that, been there, and still looking for some rationality to this world. Thanks for any ideas... Again, not to be rude (to you or fBSD) . . . but why stick with something that is giving you soo much trouble? There are a bunch of open source distros out there. I can appreciate that you do not want to f'around with another distro for another week . . . but . . . From other posts, it sounded like you have recovered the essential files. Rationality may dictate you moving on. The only thing I can suggest that may help those who know better, is to post the demsg's of the two machines (the one that works and the pain in the ass), given that they are different machines. What happened to the faulty hardware idea? I dunno . . . good luck! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: installation sequence
I'm all over this! Here's what you do: Setup for yourself a local cvs repository like so: portinstall -Pp net/cvsup-mirror You have to make decisions about what to mirror, but in the end you will have a semi-authoritative mirror of all the source and ports for the whole dang FreeBSD development tree, that will maintain itself and be ready when you need it. Next, when ever you do a fresh install of FreeBSD whatever, the first thing you do after the install is update your source and ports try by creating a cvsupfile, (I always keep one in /usr/local/etc/cvsupfile) like this: begin cvsupfile *default host=IP.OF.YOUR.LOCAL.CVS.MIRROR *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix tag=RELENG_7 *default compress src-all src-contrib ports-all tag=. /end cvsupfile Note that the begin and /end tags are put in the email for clarity, but should NOT appear in your cvsup file. I think src-contrib is overkill, but I've not bothered to find out because I'm pretty lazy. Note, also that RELENG_7 is just what I'm using now. You should adjust to the FreeBSD whatever that you just installed. So after you put the cvsupfile in place, run this on your new install: csup -g -L2 /path/to/cvsupfile Note, again, that csup does *not* get installed with *base before like 6.3 or something ... can't remember which. Did I mention lazy? If you are going back that far you have to install csup from ports or install cvsup from ports. (Which may likely put you back at square one where you have to work through the build failures - it ain't perfect, but it's nearly there!) Anyway, the point is you should always, always, always update your ports tree after a new install so you don't have build failures to stump you. And you still might get those :) So you should consider REBUILDING WORLD immediately after you do a new install. And THEN build/install whatever ports you need ... Good Luck! lane On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 19:12 -0400, PJ wrote: Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors? I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22, cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted... usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an ordered universe! But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and a number of pretty cumbersome applications. I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al. So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to ldap...util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up with Error code 1. Exactly the same installation with the same configuration on the smaller installation went without a hitch... (and on the same computer, different disk) The versions are the latest available and on 7.2... I have tried uninstalling php5, openldap, and removing the work directory for apache22, but the result is always the same... this is absurd. Can anybody make any sense of this... I don't like the idea of starting all over again... done that, been there, and still looking for some rationality to this world. Thanks for any ideas... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: installation sequence
Lane Holcombe wrote: Here's what you do: Setup for yourself a local cvs repository like so: portinstall -Pp net/cvsup-mirror You have to make decisions about what to mirror, but in the end you will have a semi-authoritative mirror of all the source and ports for the whole dang FreeBSD development tree, that will maintain itself and be ready when you need it. It's good advice to make sure that you are using a base system and ports tree that are up-to-date, or at least contemporaneous and from a stable snapshot. But it seems to me to be overkill to ask someone who is having trouble installing ports to mirror the FreeBSD repository. Snapshots downloaded per the instructions in the FreeBSD Handbook ought to be enough for most people. b. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: installation sequence
Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors? This is supposed to be automated, but of course things can sometimes go wrong, either through hardware problems, user-error, or an error in Ports. I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22, cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted... usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an ordered universe! But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and a number of pretty cumbersome applications. I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al. So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to ldap...util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up with Error code 1. It sounds like a missing header, but you need to tell us more before we can attempt to figure out why. Don't spend a lot of time and energy paraphrasing what happened, but rather include the end of a build transcript with your message, beginning a few lines above where the first error appeared. You can cut-and-paste, or use script1) to capture the output, or whatever -- but we need to see the _exact_ output. Also include a list of the ports that you have installed now, and the OPTIONS settings, if any, of the port and the ports that it depends upon. Also check to see when you are installing a new port that: 1) you are using a up-to-date ports tree and INDEX file (or at least a snapshot that has no known errors), and an up-to-date portsdb and pkgdb if you are using portupgrade; 2) all of your currently installed ports are up-to-date (or at least consistent with your ports tree); 3) you are starting with clean work directories for the port that you want to build and install, and all ports that will also need to be build and installed as missing dependencies; 4) your installed ports and base system have not been corrupted; 5) you have no known hardware problems, like bad memory or a malfunctioning hard drive. And you know, you don't have to build from source -- you could just download and install prebuilt binary packages, either from FreeBSD Ports or some other packaging system... b. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
