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Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?

2008-06-21 Thread Julian Stacey
 I'm looking for somebody to host some web sites for me.  Ideally I'd
 like a complete machine, but a jail would do too.  I can find plenty
 of Linux-based offerings, but the only one I can find with FreeBSD is
 in Germany and requires me to be resident in Germany.  Can anybody
 point me to one that I, as an Australian resident, can use?
 
 Feel free to reply to me personally and blow your own trumpet if you
 want.  Please also note that I'm not subscribed to these lists, so
 please don't reply only to the list.
 
 Greg
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Hi Greg cc lists,
Friends run a very flexible BSD based provider company in Munich.
http://bsn.de  bsn.com I have servers there.  It wouldn't matter to
them you weren't in Germany.  They speak English  German.  Could
offer FreeBSD on i686 or so, or sparc-something (maybe OpenBSD for
sparc, not sure).  They'd likely prefer to offer complete box rental,
not a jail.

Greg, call Norbert Poellmann cc'd +49 89 692 8120 to discuss possibilities.
Norbert, Greg is author of a FreeBSD book,  visited Gary  I etc here once.

Index of providers here ( BSN on list)
http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html

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Re: JohnCompanies and RootBSD (was Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?)

2008-06-20 Thread Wojciech Puchar

My main concern is disk space; I have 2GB for ~$26 per month.


This too is my only gripe about JohnCompanies. For $29 a month, I only
get a VPS with 2GB of space -- and they don't allow you to add more
diskpace unless you upgrade to a higher ($49/month) plan.


while i live in Poland, where (in theory) internet services are more 
expensive than US and many west countries (we are told so at least), it 
looks like very expensive.


29$/month=348$/year for what i understand - Xen based servers with a bit 
of RAM allocated and 2GB disk space.


it's just funny in context of todays cheap 500-1000GB disks.

While i don't do this widely (too little money, too much work to 
advertise etc.) i have 20 clients on my servers just having their 
FreeBSD jail for 100$/month. There is 20GB soft limit - where soft means 
that you generally can keep more, but if i will have space problems i will 
ask to free some space.



The important question is traffic generated, not disk space, as this is 
what's expensive.


I just can't understand the basis of their offers.
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Re: How do they do their VPS product? [was Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?]

2008-06-20 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis
On Thursday 19 June 2008 19:29:35 George Hartzell wrote:
 Is/was there some proprietary virtualization technology in the 4.x
 days?

Not a proprietary one:
http://www.tel.fer.hr/zec/BSD/vimage-old/

http://imunes.tel.fer.hr/virtnet/eurobsdcon07_tutorial.pdf
The presentation pdf states:
Anecdotal evidence: FreeBSD 4.11 based version in
  production use by some US ISPs

 Is it still alive and kicking somewhere? 

Hopefully, it will be integrated to HEAD during
summer. You can follow the discussions here: 
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-virtualization

 Anyone have any insights into how these VPS products were built?

Maybe it was that, maybe not...
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Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?

2008-06-19 Thread Bob Martin
M5 hosting, http://www.m5hosting.com. Those folks are great.
You can find more at http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I'm looking for somebody to host some web sites for me.  Ideally I'd
 like a complete machine, but a jail would do too.  I can find plenty
 of Linux-based offerings, but the only one I can find with FreeBSD is
 in Germany and requires me to be resident in Germany.  Can anybody
 point me to one that I, as an Australian resident, can use?

 Feel free to reply to me personally and blow your own trumpet if you
 want.  Please also note that I'm not subscribed to these lists, so
 please don't reply only to the list.

 Greg
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Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?

2008-06-19 Thread Steve Lalonde


On 19 Jun 2008, at 01:31, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:


I'm looking for somebody to host some web sites for me.  Ideally I'd
like a complete machine, but a jail would do too.  I can find plenty
of Linux-based offerings, but the only one I can find with FreeBSD is
in Germany and requires me to be resident in Germany.  Can anybody
point me to one that I, as an Australian resident, can use?

Feel free to reply to me personally and blow your own trumpet if you
want.  Please also note that I'm not subscribed to these lists, so
please don't reply only to the list.

Greg
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Hi

We Entanet host on FreeBSD as the default and its been that way since  
we started back in 1996


We are in the UK

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Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?

2008-06-19 Thread Charles Trevor




+1 for JC.  The tech support and availability is unparalleled.  Satisfied 
customer for over three years.




+2 for JohnCompanies. Excellent support and good prices for VPS. I 
intend to have several more VPS with them over the next few months.


HTH

Charlie
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Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?

2008-06-19 Thread Patrick C
I can, as usual, highly recommend M5 Hosting. Mike (the owner) is VERY
helpful and he is very knowledgeable in *BSD - a lot of hosts will
install it, but few know how to use it. His hardware is good and he
uses AMCC (3Ware) cards for RAID. The network rocks.

I can also say I have had decent luck with ThePlanet, but I get better
bandwidth with M5 and I know if I have to call someone, he knows his
stuff.

-Patrick

2008/6/18 Sahil Tandon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Maxim Khitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive
 experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for it
 was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news.

 +1 for JC.  The tech support and availability is unparalleled.  Satisfied
 customer for over three years.

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How do they do their VPS product? [was Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?]

2008-06-19 Thread George Hartzell
Sahil Tandon writes:
  Maxim Khitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive
   experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for it
   was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news.
  
  +1 for JC.  The tech support and availability is unparalleled.  Satisfied 
  customer for over three years.

Seeing JC advertise a FreeBSD VPS product reminded me of an itch I've
never been able to scratch.

I know about jails at the simple end, and I know about VMware at the
complicated end, but I've never been able to figure out what technology
underlies the VPS offerings.

I help out a friend on a Verio VPS that reports itself as FreeBSD 4.7
w/ a kernel config file named VKERN.  There's some concept of a
virtual root, a command named 'virtual' works a bit like sudo does for
credentials, and there's otherwise an odd mix of it's all my machine
and it's a shared server.

Is/was there some proprietary virtualization technology in the 4.x
days?  Is it still alive and kicking somewhere?

Anyone have any insights into how these VPS products were built?

Thanks,

g.
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Re: How do they do their VPS product? [was Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?]

2008-06-19 Thread OutBackDingo
the libvirt stuff might be a clue, a while back I designed a virtual
system using libvirt and some ported linux code, which basiclaly acted
as an enhanced chroot for apache, ftp, mail, pop3, imap. also NTT has a
derivitive version of FreeBSD with hints at virtualization, im waiting
for our Verio to be setup now, so once it is ill peruse it a bit

On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 09:29 -0700, George Hartzell wrote:
 Sahil Tandon writes:
   Maxim Khitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive
experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for it
was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news.
   
   +1 for JC.  The tech support and availability is unparalleled.  Satisfied 
   customer for over three years.
 
 Seeing JC advertise a FreeBSD VPS product reminded me of an itch I've
 never been able to scratch.
 
 I know about jails at the simple end, and I know about VMware at the
 complicated end, but I've never been able to figure out what technology
 underlies the VPS offerings.
 
 I help out a friend on a Verio VPS that reports itself as FreeBSD 4.7
 w/ a kernel config file named VKERN.  There's some concept of a
 virtual root, a command named 'virtual' works a bit like sudo does for
 credentials, and there's otherwise an odd mix of it's all my machine
 and it's a shared server.
 
 Is/was there some proprietary virtualization technology in the 4.x
 days?  Is it still alive and kicking somewhere?
 
 Anyone have any insights into how these VPS products were built?
 
 Thanks,
 
 g.
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JohnCompanies and RootBSD (was Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?)

2008-06-19 Thread thomas
* Maxim Khitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-06-18 22:37:13+]:
 Is anyone here using RootBSD?

I am using both RootBSD and JohnCompanies.

 I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive
 experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for it
 was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news.

Agreed. JC has been fine so far, and I asked them to include me in their
FreeBSD 7 beta testing when it opens up. I don't think they have a
schedule posted for when that will start.

I started out at RootBSD on 6.2, and when FreeBSD 7 was first offered by
them (about a month ago), they were nice enough to setup a 7.0 VPS for
me, and give me a liberal amount of time for me to move my data over
from my 6.2 VPS.

 My main concern is disk space; I have 2GB for ~$26 per month.

This too is my only gripe about JohnCompanies. For $29 a month, I only
get a VPS with 2GB of space -- and they don't allow you to add more
diskpace unless you upgrade to a higher ($49/month) plan.

Contrast that with RootBSD, where I pay $19 a month and I get 10GB of
space.

On the JC server, one can easily fill up that 2GB by building various
ports (I did it by running cd /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick; make
install). The RootBSD box comes with 10GB of space which is more than
enough to build almost any port.

I am sticking with both for now, only because JC reliability/uptime is
purported to be excellent. Granted, I've not had any hardware or
connectivity issues with either provider yet, so I've not yet
experienced any serious problems firsthand.



I should also add that they both have excellent customer service and
response times, I've been pleasantly surprised with how good the support
from both places are.

hth,
Thomas
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Re: How do they do their VPS product? [was Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?]

2008-06-19 Thread Maxim Khitrov
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 12:29 PM, George Hartzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sahil Tandon writes:
   Maxim Khitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive
experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for it
was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news.
  
   +1 for JC.  The tech support and availability is unparalleled.  Satisfied
   customer for over three years.

 Seeing JC advertise a FreeBSD VPS product reminded me of an itch I've
 never been able to scratch.

 I know about jails at the simple end, and I know about VMware at the
 complicated end, but I've never been able to figure out what technology
 underlies the VPS offerings.


I'm not sure about FreeBSD 4.x, but with the more recent versions, the
solutions I've seen were using jails, Xen, or VMWare. I tried running
FreeBSD using Parallels a while back and didn't get very far.

JC is using Jails. An easy way to tell is if you run 'ifconfig' and
don't see the loopback address (127.0.0.1). This is a restriction of
the jails system. Another hint is if you run 'mount' and see that the
device mounted as / doesn't exist in /dev. The main disadvantage of
jails is that you cannot mess with the kernel, but otherwise I think
it's actually a better solution, in my opinion. Less resources are
wasted with jails than with a full VM. A Xen or VMWare server will
behave exactly the same as a physical machine.

- Max
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Re: JohnCompanies and RootBSD (was Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?)

2008-06-19 Thread OutBackDingo
It might be nice if the RootBSD people answered their email inquiries, i
know they have lost customers, me for one for not answering a simple
email

On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 13:35 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 * Maxim Khitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-06-18 22:37:13+]:
  Is anyone here using RootBSD?
 
 I am using both RootBSD and JohnCompanies.
 
  I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive
  experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for it
  was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news.
 
 Agreed. JC has been fine so far, and I asked them to include me in their
 FreeBSD 7 beta testing when it opens up. I don't think they have a
 schedule posted for when that will start.
 
 I started out at RootBSD on 6.2, and when FreeBSD 7 was first offered by
 them (about a month ago), they were nice enough to setup a 7.0 VPS for
 me, and give me a liberal amount of time for me to move my data over
 from my 6.2 VPS.
 
  My main concern is disk space; I have 2GB for ~$26 per month.
 
 This too is my only gripe about JohnCompanies. For $29 a month, I only
 get a VPS with 2GB of space -- and they don't allow you to add more
 diskpace unless you upgrade to a higher ($49/month) plan.
 
 Contrast that with RootBSD, where I pay $19 a month and I get 10GB of
 space.
 
 On the JC server, one can easily fill up that 2GB by building various
 ports (I did it by running cd /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick; make
 install). The RootBSD box comes with 10GB of space which is more than
 enough to build almost any port.
 
 I am sticking with both for now, only because JC reliability/uptime is
 purported to be excellent. Granted, I've not had any hardware or
 connectivity issues with either provider yet, so I've not yet
 experienced any serious problems firsthand.
 
 
 
 I should also add that they both have excellent customer service and
 response times, I've been pleasantly surprised with how good the support
 from both places are.
 
 hth,
 Thomas
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Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?

2008-06-19 Thread Garance A Drosihn

Seeing the question:

  Is anyone here using RootBSD?



At 10:55 AM +0700 6/19/08, OutBackDingo wrote:

I was going to go with them for their XEN based hosting, but i sent
them an email, asking a couple questions, they never replied, so
went with Verio instead


I notice the rootbsd guys did a major web-site upgrade at the end
of May.  They also have a recent news-item saying:

   Friday, June 13th, 2008

   - Unfortunately we had a programming problem on part of our
 website.  Messages sent through the 'contact' form have not
 been received.  This is now fixed.
   - If you have sent us a message and not received a response,
 please contact us again.  We apologize for the inconvenience
 and promise we weren't just trying to ignore you.

Obviously this is too late to help OutBackDingo, but if someone else
is waiting for email from them, you might want to try to contact them
again.

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Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?

2008-06-19 Thread Garance A Drosihn

At 10:37 PM -0400 6/18/08, Maxim Khitrov wrote:

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 9:27 PM, cpghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:31:31 +1000
 Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I'm looking for somebody to host some web sites for me.  Ideally I'd
 like a complete machine, but a jail would do too.  I can find plenty
 of Linux-based offerings, but the only one I can find with FreeBSD is
 in Germany and requires me to be resident in Germany.  Can anybody
 point me to one that I, as an Australian resident, can use?


 Here's a list of FreeBSD-based hosters:
  http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html



Is anyone here using RootBSD?


I recently signed up for a Xen VPS setup at RootBSD.  It seems to be
working fine, at least for what I want out of it.  I'm using it as a
hot-spare, off-site backup for a service that I run, so what I'm
doing is probably much less demanding than what most people would
want from it.  But so far I've been able to set things up the way I
want, and it's worked fine.  My biggest problem so far is that I
haven't had enough spare time to work on it!

I have no idea if they would take customers from outside the US,
but they have been pretty responsive to questions I have sent to
them via email.

I see they've updated their site since I signed up:
  http://www.rootbsd.net/


I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive
experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for
it was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news.


My Xen VPS is setup with FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE.  When I signed up,
they were just starting to try Xen-based setups instead of jails.
It looks like they've officially rolled that out as a service to
everyone.


My main concern is disk space; I have 2GB for ~$26 per month. For the
same price at RootBSD you could get almost eight times as much. The
question is how reliable are they? I can't find any information on
their site about where the data center is or the exact system
specifications.


Machines are located in two different datacenters in Raleigh, NC (or
at least, that's what they told me!).  In my case, I just wanted a
machine located far enough away from Troy, NY that any problem which
took out my office machine would not take out my off-site machine.
North Carolina sounded far enough away to me!

At the moment, my machine has been up for 35 days, and at that time
the reason it went down was because I rebooted it after making some
changes.  I've had the system for maybe two months, and haven't had
any problems with it.  Remember though, I haven't been pushing it
all that much.  Basically do automatic backups to it at night, and
then may ssh into it to test a few things a week.

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FreeBSD based web hosting?

2008-06-18 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
I'm looking for somebody to host some web sites for me.  Ideally I'd
like a complete machine, but a jail would do too.  I can find plenty
of Linux-based offerings, but the only one I can find with FreeBSD is
in Germany and requires me to be resident in Germany.  Can anybody
point me to one that I, as an Australian resident, can use?

Feel free to reply to me personally and blow your own trumpet if you
want.  Please also note that I'm not subscribed to these lists, so
please don't reply only to the list.

Greg
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Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?

2008-06-18 Thread Ryan Coleman
Skiltech.com is my host, they do jailed for a good price -- depends on
traffic and space requirements -- and do colocation. We're paying $400/mo
for a machine we have full system access to, plus 24/7 tech for free and
nightly backups for up to 7 days for access, DB for 30.

They run fBSD 6.3 right now, I believe. Good company, small - owned by one
person - and very, very reliable.

--
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 I'm looking for somebody to host some web sites for me.  Ideally I'd
 like a complete machine, but a jail would do too.  I can find plenty
 of Linux-based offerings, but the only one I can find with FreeBSD is
 in Germany and requires me to be resident in Germany.  Can anybody
 point me to one that I, as an Australian resident, can use?

 Feel free to reply to me personally and blow your own trumpet if you
 want.  Please also note that I'm not subscribed to these lists, so
 please don't reply only to the list.

 Greg
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Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?

2008-06-18 Thread Schiz0
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 8:31 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm looking for somebody to host some web sites for me.  Ideally I'd
 like a complete machine, but a jail would do too.  I can find plenty
 of Linux-based offerings, but the only one I can find with FreeBSD is
 in Germany and requires me to be resident in Germany.  Can anybody
 point me to one that I, as an Australian resident, can use?

 Feel free to reply to me personally and blow your own trumpet if you
 want.  Please also note that I'm not subscribed to these lists, so
 please don't reply only to the list.


Try http://clearancerack.ca

They have cheap dedicated servers. They support FreeBSD, and they are
in Canada :D
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Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?

2008-06-18 Thread cpghost
On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:31:31 +1000
Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm looking for somebody to host some web sites for me.  Ideally I'd
 like a complete machine, but a jail would do too.  I can find plenty
 of Linux-based offerings, but the only one I can find with FreeBSD is
 in Germany and requires me to be resident in Germany.  Can anybody
 point me to one that I, as an Australian resident, can use?

Here's a list of FreeBSD-based hosters:
  http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html

I've recently switched to KIONIC.COM: http://www.kionic.com/
but only for simple web hosting (no jails). They may offer
jails too... Service is excellent so far. ;)

Regards,
-cpghost.

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Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?

2008-06-18 Thread Maxim Khitrov
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 9:27 PM, cpghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:31:31 +1000
 Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm looking for somebody to host some web sites for me.  Ideally I'd
 like a complete machine, but a jail would do too.  I can find plenty
 of Linux-based offerings, but the only one I can find with FreeBSD is
 in Germany and requires me to be resident in Germany.  Can anybody
 point me to one that I, as an Australian resident, can use?

 Here's a list of FreeBSD-based hosters:
  http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html


Is anyone here using RootBSD?

I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive
experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for it
was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news.

My main concern is disk space; I have 2GB for ~$26 per month. For the
same price at RootBSD you could get almost eight times as much. The
question is how reliable are they? I can't find any information on
their site about where the data center is or the exact system
specifications.

- Max
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Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?

2008-06-18 Thread Sahil Tandon
Maxim Khitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive
 experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for it
 was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news.

+1 for JC.  The tech support and availability is unparalleled.  Satisfied 
customer for over three years.

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Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?

2008-06-18 Thread OutBackDingo
I was going to go with them for their XEN based hosting, but i sent them
an email, asking a couple questions, they never replied, so went with
Verio instead

 Is anyone here using RootBSD?
 
 I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive
 experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for it
 was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news.
 
 My main concern is disk space; I have 2GB for ~$26 per month. For the
 same price at RootBSD you could get almost eight times as much. The
 question is how reliable are they? I can't find any information on
 their site about where the data center is or the exact system
 specifications.
 
 - Max

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Re: Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform

2007-11-26 Thread Tek Bahadur Limbu

Hi Ovi,

Ovi wrote:

Tek Bahadur Limbu wrote:


Hi All,

I know that this question has been asked on this list in the past. So 
I am sorry for repeating it.


However, I would like to know the current answers and views on this 
question.


Basically, I want to know which software you might be using as a Site 
configuration and management application for web hosting services.


It will be used primarily to control about 500-1000 virtual domains.

I know that there are Cpanel and Plesk which are very good commercial 
softwares catering the needs for a good web based management tool.


So far, I have only tried out RAQdevil http://www.raqdevil.com/

It seems good but is quite limited in it's features.

So I would like to know more open source softwares used for this type 
of services.



Thanking you...


We are using syscp and it works well. (you will need to modify it to 
suit your needs, the source code is clean and easy to modify).
Any open source software you try, it is not 100% complete (as far as I 
know, from my experience with open source web panels), so you will have 
to modify the code. The bad thing with syscp is that dns server is not 
configurable from web interface (there is a patch, but it allows you to 
modify DNS only from admin account, which is not good, I think you will 
need regular users to be able to configure their own dns servers), so 
this is one thing you must add. I asume you need 3 types of accounts, 
admin account, reseller account and user account.

http://www.syscp.org/


I have heard about syscp and will definitely try it once. But I am not 
very familiar with coding. Apart of the DNS configurations, do we need 
to hack the code?


By the way, how many virtual domains are you currently managing with syscp?


Thanking you...




best regards,
ovi







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Re: Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform

2007-11-26 Thread Grant Peel
We, and many hundreds of other hosts use Webmin/Usermin/Virtualmin.

It is free,
It is robust,
There are tons of third party mods to use, 
Learning how to create your own mods is easy,
It is secure.

www.webmin.com

-Grant
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tek Bahadur Limbu 
  To: Ovi 
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 
  Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:09 AM
  Subject: Re: Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform


  Hi Ovi,

  Ovi wrote:
   Tek Bahadur Limbu wrote:
   
   Hi All,
  
   I know that this question has been asked on this list in the past. So 
   I am sorry for repeating it.
  
   However, I would like to know the current answers and views on this 
   question.
  
   Basically, I want to know which software you might be using as a Site 
   configuration and management application for web hosting services.
  
   It will be used primarily to control about 500-1000 virtual domains.
  
   I know that there are Cpanel and Plesk which are very good commercial 
   softwares catering the needs for a good web based management tool.
  
   So far, I have only tried out RAQdevil http://www.raqdevil.com/
  
   It seems good but is quite limited in it's features.
  
   So I would like to know more open source softwares used for this type 
   of services.
  
  
   Thanking you...
  
  
   We are using syscp and it works well. (you will need to modify it to 
   suit your needs, the source code is clean and easy to modify).
   Any open source software you try, it is not 100% complete (as far as I 
   know, from my experience with open source web panels), so you will have 
   to modify the code. The bad thing with syscp is that dns server is not 
   configurable from web interface (there is a patch, but it allows you to 
   modify DNS only from admin account, which is not good, I think you will 
   need regular users to be able to configure their own dns servers), so 
   this is one thing you must add. I asume you need 3 types of accounts, 
   admin account, reseller account and user account.
   http://www.syscp.org/

  I have heard about syscp and will definitely try it once. But I am not 
  very familiar with coding. Apart of the DNS configurations, do we need 
  to hack the code?

  By the way, how many virtual domains are you currently managing with syscp?


  Thanking you...


   
   best regards,
   ovi
   
   
   
   


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  Yours sincerely,

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  Jwl Systems Department

  Worldlink Communications Pvt. Ltd.

  Jawalakhel, Nepal

  http://www.wlink.com.np

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Re: Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform

2007-11-26 Thread Tek Bahadur Limbu

Hi Grant,

Grant Peel wrote:

We, and many hundreds of other hosts use Webmin/Usermin/Virtualmin.

It is free,
It is robust,
There are tons of third party mods to use, 
Learning how to create your own mods is easy,

It is secure.

www.webmin.com


Thanks for your suggestions.

I did not know that webmin could be used for a web hosting platform. I 
mean that I have only heard negative comments about it. And I thought 
that it was over bloated and was full of unwanted services thus making 
it very insecure.


Now that you have mentioned it and corrected my thinking, I will 
definitely look into it and consider it.


Thanking you...





-Grant
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tek Bahadur Limbu 
  To: Ovi 
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 
  Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:09 AM

  Subject: Re: Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform


  Hi Ovi,

  Ovi wrote:
   Tek Bahadur Limbu wrote:
   
   Hi All,

  
   I know that this question has been asked on this list in the past. So 
   I am sorry for repeating it.

  
   However, I would like to know the current answers and views on this 
   question.

  
   Basically, I want to know which software you might be using as a Site 
   configuration and management application for web hosting services.

  
   It will be used primarily to control about 500-1000 virtual domains.
  
   I know that there are Cpanel and Plesk which are very good commercial 
   softwares catering the needs for a good web based management tool.

  
   So far, I have only tried out RAQdevil http://www.raqdevil.com/
  
   It seems good but is quite limited in it's features.
  
   So I would like to know more open source softwares used for this type 
   of services.

  
  
   Thanking you...
  
  
   We are using syscp and it works well. (you will need to modify it to 
   suit your needs, the source code is clean and easy to modify).
   Any open source software you try, it is not 100% complete (as far as I 
   know, from my experience with open source web panels), so you will have 
   to modify the code. The bad thing with syscp is that dns server is not 
   configurable from web interface (there is a patch, but it allows you to 
   modify DNS only from admin account, which is not good, I think you will 
   need regular users to be able to configure their own dns servers), so 
   this is one thing you must add. I asume you need 3 types of accounts, 
   admin account, reseller account and user account.

   http://www.syscp.org/

  I have heard about syscp and will definitely try it once. But I am not 
  very familiar with coding. Apart of the DNS configurations, do we need 
  to hack the code?


  By the way, how many virtual domains are you currently managing with syscp?


  Thanking you...


   
   best regards,

   ovi
   
   
   
   



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  Jwl Systems Department

  Worldlink Communications Pvt. Ltd.

  Jawalakhel, Nepal

  http://www.wlink.com.np

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Re: Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform

2007-11-25 Thread Tek Bahadur Limbu

Hi Andrey and Ted,


Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:



-Original Message-
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Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:46 AM
To: Tek Bahadur Limbu
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform


Fri, 23 Nov 2007 15:49:19 +0545, Tek Bahadur Limbu wrote:


I know that this question has been asked on this list in the past. So
I am sorry for repeating it.
However, I would like to know the current answers and views on this
question.
Basically, I want to know which software you might be using as a Site
configuration and management application for web hosting services.
It will be used primarily to control about 500-1000 virtual domains.
I know that there are Cpanel and Plesk which are very good commercial
softwares catering the needs for a good web based management tool.
So far, I have only tried out RAQdevil http://www.raqdevil.com/

  For commercial hostings needs commercial panels.


Not really true.  It depends on what your charging.  If your charging
the equivalent of $4.99 a month USD for a light duty site then your
customers
are cheapskates who are going to be satisfied with whatever you give
then, commercial or not.

The commercial control panels are appropriate for hosts that are
charging some real money for the service.


I guess you are correct. The price will be equivalent to less than $9.99 
a month. I think VHCS or ISPConfig will serve me good.


From their sites, both are only available for Linux based systems. 
Anyway, I will setup VHCS in a Debian box.


Once again, thanks alot for your input and suggestions.

Thanking you...






Ted

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RE: Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform

2007-11-25 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: Tek Bahadur Limbu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 12:52 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: Andrey Slusar; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform
 
 
 Hi Andrey and Ted,
 
 
 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrey Slusar
  Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:46 AM
  To: Tek Bahadur Limbu
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Re: Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform
 
 
  Fri, 23 Nov 2007 15:49:19 +0545, Tek Bahadur Limbu wrote:
 
  I know that this question has been asked on this list in the past. So
  I am sorry for repeating it.
  However, I would like to know the current answers and views on this
  question.
  Basically, I want to know which software you might be using as a Site
  configuration and management application for web hosting services.
  It will be used primarily to control about 500-1000 virtual domains.
  I know that there are Cpanel and Plesk which are very good commercial
  softwares catering the needs for a good web based management tool.
  So far, I have only tried out RAQdevil http://www.raqdevil.com/
For commercial hostings needs commercial panels.
  
  Not really true.  It depends on what your charging.  If your charging
  the equivalent of $4.99 a month USD for a light duty site then your
  customers
  are cheapskates who are going to be satisfied with whatever you give
  then, commercial or not.
  
  The commercial control panels are appropriate for hosts that are
  charging some real money for the service.
 
 I guess you are correct. The price will be equivalent to less than $9.99 
 a month. I think VHCS or ISPConfig will serve me good.
 
  From their sites, both are only available for Linux based systems. 
 Anyway, I will setup VHCS in a Debian box.
 

We actually use webmin ourselves.  Although, we do not give the
users any access to control panels whatsoever.  The major thing
they use them for is setting up mysql databases, and we make
them ask us to do that for them.  Since most users don't need to
do this, it really isn't much of a support burden.  The biggest
support burden with users is getting them to figure out how to
use their FTP or whatever file transfer software, or publish-shit
button on frontpage (thank the maker that MS finally officially
struck that product, so we can get away with punting on support
of ancient free copies of this.  People who can't figure out frontpage
don't have any business making websites)

Ted
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Re: Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform

2007-11-25 Thread Ovi

Tek Bahadur Limbu wrote:


Hi All,

I know that this question has been asked on this list in the past. So 
I am sorry for repeating it.


However, I would like to know the current answers and views on this 
question.


Basically, I want to know which software you might be using as a Site 
configuration and management application for web hosting services.


It will be used primarily to control about 500-1000 virtual domains.

I know that there are Cpanel and Plesk which are very good commercial 
softwares catering the needs for a good web based management tool.


So far, I have only tried out RAQdevil http://www.raqdevil.com/

It seems good but is quite limited in it's features.

So I would like to know more open source softwares used for this type 
of services.



Thanking you...


We are using syscp and it works well. (you will need to modify it to 
suit your needs, the source code is clean and easy to modify).
Any open source software you try, it is not 100% complete (as far as I 
know, from my experience with open source web panels), so you will have 
to modify the code. The bad thing with syscp is that dns server is not 
configurable from web interface (there is a patch, but it allows you to 
modify DNS only from admin account, which is not good, I think you will 
need regular users to be able to configure their own dns servers), so 
this is one thing you must add. I asume you need 3 types of accounts, 
admin account, reseller account and user account.

http://www.syscp.org/

best regards,
ovi

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Re: Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform

2007-11-24 Thread Andrey Slusar
Fri, 23 Nov 2007 15:49:19 +0545, Tek Bahadur Limbu wrote:

 I know that this question has been asked on this list in the past. So
 I am sorry for repeating it.

 However, I would like to know the current answers and views on this
 question.

 Basically, I want to know which software you might be using as a Site
 configuration and management application for web hosting services.

 It will be used primarily to control about 500-1000 virtual domains.

 I know that there are Cpanel and Plesk which are very good commercial
 softwares catering the needs for a good web based management tool.

 So far, I have only tried out RAQdevil http://www.raqdevil.com/

  For commercial hostings needs commercial panels. Open source
alternatives is very buggy and less functionality. DirectAdmin, ISP
Manager commercial panels is not needs many costs for life time
licenses or functionality is very good.

 It seems good but is quite limited in it's features.

 So I would like to know more open source softwares used for this type
 of services.

 Free panels: vhcs, ispconfig.
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RE: Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform

2007-11-24 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrey Slusar
 Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:46 AM
 To: Tek Bahadur Limbu
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform


 Fri, 23 Nov 2007 15:49:19 +0545, Tek Bahadur Limbu wrote:

  I know that this question has been asked on this list in the past. So
  I am sorry for repeating it.

  However, I would like to know the current answers and views on this
  question.

  Basically, I want to know which software you might be using as a Site
  configuration and management application for web hosting services.

  It will be used primarily to control about 500-1000 virtual domains.

  I know that there are Cpanel and Plesk which are very good commercial
  softwares catering the needs for a good web based management tool.

  So far, I have only tried out RAQdevil http://www.raqdevil.com/

   For commercial hostings needs commercial panels.

Not really true.  It depends on what your charging.  If your charging
the equivalent of $4.99 a month USD for a light duty site then your
customers
are cheapskates who are going to be satisfied with whatever you give
then, commercial or not.

The commercial control panels are appropriate for hosts that are
charging some real money for the service.

Ted

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Open Source softwares in FreeBSD for web hosting platform

2007-11-23 Thread Tek Bahadur Limbu

Hi All,

I know that this question has been asked on this list in the past. So I 
am sorry for repeating it.


However, I would like to know the current answers and views on this 
question.


Basically, I want to know which software you might be using as a Site 
configuration and management application for web hosting services.


It will be used primarily to control about 500-1000 virtual domains.

I know that there are Cpanel and Plesk which are very good commercial 
softwares catering the needs for a good web based management tool.


So far, I have only tried out RAQdevil http://www.raqdevil.com/

It seems good but is quite limited in it's features.

So I would like to know more open source softwares used for this type of 
services.



Thanking you...


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http://www.wlink.com.np

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Web Hosting @ StartLogic

2007-03-15 Thread Alberto Crippa
Web Hosting @ StartLogic ! 

StartLogic. Free setup and domain, Web builder, unlimited emails,
PHP, mySQL, CGI, FrontPage. From $6.50/month.

http://www.kqzyfj.com/click-2184376-10305063?sid=93c050fee20b0415473a78138849ce03

Click here for more info 



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Web Hosting @ StartLogic

2007-03-15 Thread Alberto Crippa
Web Hosting @ StartLogic ! 

StartLogic. Free setup and domain, Web builder, unlimited emails,
PHP, mySQL, CGI, FrontPage. From $6.50/month.

http://www.kqzyfj.com/click-2184376-10305063?sid=81d9ced2138352b76d03e1949009cf82

Click here for more info 



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off-topic: video web hosting questions

2006-12-17 Thread Malcolm Fitzgerald

Where can I ask questions about the web hosting?

I am being asked to set-up a web site that will deliver video, a 
youTube wannabe :-) So I'd like visit a forum that discusses such 
things



malcolm

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Re: off-topic: video web hosting questions

2006-12-17 Thread Jeff Mohler

Firstl..how much Netapp can you afford?:)

Id start here:

http://www.sitepoint.com/

On 12/17/06, Malcolm Fitzgerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Where can I ask questions about the web hosting?

I am being asked to set-up a web site that will deliver video, a
youTube wannabe :-) So I'd like visit a forum that discusses such
things


malcolm

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Fwd: solutions for web hosting server

2006-11-17 Thread David Robillard

- ftp server ... I don't really know what to install, proftpd it's good ?


I personnaly switched from proftpd to vsftpd. I find it easier to
configure and is built with security in mind from the ground up. It's
also in the ports tree.

Using vsftpd (or even most other ftp daemons) you can chroot your
users into the root of their public_html site. So that when they
connect to you FTP daemon, they will se the root directory as their
files.

Also enable FTP over SSL to prevent clear-text passwords from going
unencrypted on the web.

Have fun,

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solutions for web hosting server

2006-11-16 Thread Dan Catana

Hello to all,

I have a question about what software is best for a good web hosting 
server on freeBSD, for one site hosting and for multiple site. The 
server I like to be secure.


Programs I think is best for a web hosting are:

- Apache 2
- MySQL 5
- PHP 5
- awstat
- ftp server ... I don't really now what to install proftpd it's good ?
- iptables -- for firewall


If anybody have experience and have a suggestions or a simple 
documentation only for this I like to share it.


PS: I work in most of my time with gentoo, I'm new in the freeBSD world.

Thank you very much and have a nice day !

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solutions for web hosting server

2006-11-16 Thread Dan Catana

Hello to all,

I have a question about what software is best for a good web hosting 
server on freeBSD, for one site hosting and for multiple site. The 
server I like to be secure.


Programs I think is best for a web hosting are:

- Apache 2
- MySQL 5
- PHP 5
- awstat
- ftp server ... I don't really know what to install, proftpd it's good ?
- iptables -- for firewall


If anybody have experience and have a suggestions or a simple 
documentation only for this I like to share it.


PS: I work in most of my time with gentoo, I'm new in the freeBSD world.

Thank you very much and have a nice day !

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Re: solutions for web hosting server

2006-11-16 Thread Andy Greenwood

On 11/16/06, Dan Catana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello to all,

I have a question about what software is best for a good web hosting
server on freeBSD, for one site hosting and for multiple site. The
server I like to be secure.

Programs I think is best for a web hosting are:

- Apache 2
- MySQL 5
- PHP 5
- awstat
- ftp server ... I don't really know what to install, proftpd it's good ?
- iptables -- for firewall


There are of course, lots of options, but as for your firewall, AFAIK
you can't use iptables. It's a Linux thing. Look into pf (my favorite)
ipf and ipfw. they are the main choices for firewalls on FreeBSD.




If anybody have experience and have a suggestions or a simple
documentation only for this I like to share it.

PS: I work in most of my time with gentoo, I'm new in the freeBSD world.

Thank you very much and have a nice day !

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Re: solutions for web hosting server

2006-11-16 Thread Armin Arh
Depends on your application.
There is no generally best solution.
On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 02:19:49PM +0200, Dan Catana wrote:
 - Apache 2
I use caudium. Provides strong flexible content, and is easy to administer.

 - MySQL 5
Postgres is the right choice for me, provides integrity, is faster
for complex queries anyway.

 - PHP 5
I prefer programming modules in pike for caudium.
Keeps my application sane.

 - awstat
 - ftp server ... I don't really know what to install, proftpd it's good ?
awful documentation as far as i am concerned.
pure-ftpd is doing a good job for me. Gives you real control
over traffic and other limits per user. I like its sql interface.

 - iptables -- for firewall
I don't do firewalling at all. For whom? My server is
not a gateway. But if i need one, i prefer pf.

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Re: solutions for web hosting server

2006-11-16 Thread Dan Catana

Thanks to all for replay.

I have experience with linux,  when I tell about iptables to use for 
firewall is because I use for firewall in linux world. I don't have 
experience with BSD and I don't now what exactly  I  must use  for my 
server.


I like to make a web server for company clients with freeBSD, where they 
can put the content of their web site on the server via ftp ( I will 
test pure-ftpd )or other method.


Why Mysql ? Because most of my client use mysql.

How can not merge functions about security and end-users ? :)

Thanks to all again for all help.

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riccardo_diago wrote:

In my opinion,


  

- Apache 2


OK
  

- MySQL 5


OK
  

- PHP 5


OK
  

- awstat


OK
  

- ftp server ... I don't really know what to install, proftpd it's good ?


I prefer pure-ftp because it has nice security features.

  

- iptables -- for firewall


It's for linux.
However, if u have another machine avaible, u can use IPCOP,
smoothwall, endian, or vendor Astaro /vendor and many others.
If u don't have another machine, u can u use ipf and ipfw on freebsd.
Btw, it's a good choice to not merge functions about security and
end-users. ;)



cheers
rik
  

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web hosting

2005-02-11 Thread Cezar Fistik
Hi all,

Does anyone know a good resource that would describe how to implement a web
hositng service? I mean a technical one, descibing which software is better
to use, security mesures and in general how to set up a web hosting sysem
from a sysadmin point of view. I would appreciate if you could give me any
suggestions.

Thank you very much.

Cezar


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firewall/nat Web Hosting architecture

2003-02-24 Thread Guilherme J. R. Oliveira

Hi !

I need to create a network serving virtual web hosting (which I'll have 2 public ip's) 
with these servers: apache, iis, bind, ftpd, sendmail and pop3.
It's possible to put all these servers (including the dns) behind a freebsd 
firewall/nat with 2 nics and 2 switchs to divide 2 networks ?


Example:

  internet
  |
   router
  |
 firewallnat
  |
desktop1 -- switch -- |   -- switch -- bind,apache,ftpd
desktop2 -- -- sendmail,pop3,secondary_bind
-- iis,ftpd


I think it's possible using -redirect_port and -redirect_address but I shock with 2 
(or more) problems:

- if the public ip's adress's will be served with bind then it must be installed in 
the same box as firewallnat. True ? But I wish that bind stays behind the firewall.
- I have only 2 public ip's that must be assigned (i think) to bind and 
secondary_bind. How can I acess to iis and/or apache server independently from 
internet ?



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Re: firewall/nat Web Hosting architecture

2003-02-24 Thread Willie Viljoen
On Tuesday 25 February 2003 0:44, someone, possibly Guilherme J. R. 
Oliveira, typed:


 - if the public ip's adress's will be served with bind then it must be
 installed in the same box as firewallnat. True ? But I wish that bind
 stays behind the firewall. - I have only 2 public ip's that must be
 assigned (i think) to bind and secondary_bind. How can I acess to iis
 and/or apache server independently from internet ?


This creates a few problems for routing, but all can be overcome. What you 
want to do is add your public IPs as aliases on your firewall/NAT machine. 
You can do this by putting these in rc.conf, right under the current 
interface address. This assumes your interface to the outside world is 
fxp0:

ifconfig_fxp0=inet 20.4.37.34 netmask 255.255.255.252
defaultrouter=20.4.37.33
ifconfig_fxp0_alias0=inet 20.4.40.137 netmask 255.255.255.252
ifconfig_fxp0_alias1=inet 20.4.40.138 netmask 255.255.255.255

You would have to get the proper netmask from your ISP, these would only 
work in very obscure routing conditions (but most ISPs that enforce NAT on 
their customers would also use something weird like this)

Then, give your servers internal addresses and add appropriate static NAT 
rules to pass all traffic for those IPs directly to them.

If you can get your ISP to give you a routable range instead, that is still 
the best though.

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