Re: make release of current
On Wednesday 26 November 2008 22:54:35 Valentin Bud wrote: Hello Beech, Could you be more specific on what documentation to read. thank you and a great day, v On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 26 November 2008 20:40:21 michael wrote: will make release work for current? i've built a nice working system that i would like to be able to install on several identical machines. Yes, but read all the docs completely there are a number of options you need, like telling it to use your source tree instead of CVS and if you want to build packages etc. Beech A good place to start is man (7) release. Beech -- --- Beech Rintoul - FreeBSD Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://people.freebsd.org/~beech X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Skype: akbeech / \ - http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/7.0R/announce.html --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pf or ipf rules to allow p2p Limewire through
What pf or ipf firewall keep-state rules needed to allow p2p application such as limewire through? Using same firewall rules as in handbook example. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: large binary, why not strip ?
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 07:32:23 + Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul B. Mahol wrote: On 11/26/08, Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Seaman wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Bonus points if you come up with a patch to do this: in most cases it will be a simple matter of changing the port's do-install: target to use INSTALL_* macros instead of cp/bsdtar etc. This would be a good project to get some familiarity with the ports tree. Would it be worthwhile to add a test and warning that all installed binaries have not been stripped to the 'security-check' target in bsd.port.mk? That's not really what that target was intended for (feeping creaturism alert!) but it's the obvious place to put such a test. Probably cleaner to create a whole new target, but that's going to duplicate some code. H... I shall work up some patches, probably over the weekend, so there's something substantive to talk about. Done: ports/129210 For the record, I also discovered that, contrary to what I said earlier, there is apparently one class of binary object that will not work correctly if stripped: kernel loadable modules. Kernel loadable modules are already stripped (--strip-debug). KLDs aren't stripped in a way that file(1) recognises: happy-idiot-talk:/boot/kernel:% file if_em.ko if_em.ko: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked, not stripped Unfortunately file(1) seems to be about the only tool available to test a priori whether a binary object is stripped or not. It's possible that objdump(1) or readelf(1) could do a similar thing, but I can't work it out from those man pages. It seems nm also tells you fairly simply whether a file contains symbols or not: nm /bin/ls nm: /bin/ls: no symbols nm /usr/local/bin/a2p 004030d0 T Myfatal 00510308 D No 0051a200 B Str 00510300 D Yes 00519e00 A _DYNAMIC [...] KLD .ko files are built with full debug data but the source information (filenames, line numbers etc.) is stripped out into separate .ko.symbols files, in a similar way that Windows uses .PDB files; it lets you store the debug information separately and only match them up if something goes wrong. To see if a binary contains source data, you can run 'readelf -w'; no output seems to mean it couldn't find any data. -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Limewire package install error
Tried to pkg_add -r limewire. Dependant diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02.tbz File unavailable. The package diablo-jdk is not on 7.0 or 7.1 pkg server. Looking up diablo-jdk on the ports website, the long description points to here http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml How am i to get these mis-matched package names to fulfill the limewire dependent name? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Limewire package install error
Fbsd1 wrote: Tried to pkg_add -r limewire. Dependant diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02.tbz File unavailable. The package diablo-jdk is not on 7.0 or 7.1 pkg server. Looking up diablo-jdk on the ports website, the long description points to here http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml Just tried to install from ports. Try to install diablo-jdk first from ports. There is a file tzupdater-1_3_9-2008g.zip which should be downloaded directly from Sun, first creating your personal account @Sun. If diablo-jdk is OK, Limewire should be no problem. Check: # pkg_version -v|grep diablo diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_2= up-to-date with port - # cd /usr/ports/net-p2p/limewire # make === Vulnerability check disabled, database not found = LimeWireOther.zip doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. = Attempting to fetch from http://www10.limewire.com/download/. LimeWireOther.zip 100% of9 MB 315 kBps 00m00s === Extracting for limewire-4.18.8,1 = MD5 Checksum OK for LimeWireOther.zip. = SHA256 Checksum OK for LimeWireOther.zip. === limewire-4.18.8,1 depends on executable: unzip - found === Patching for limewire-4.18.8,1 === Configuring for limewire-4.18.8,1 # make install === Installing for limewire-4.18.8,1 === limewire-4.18.8,1 depends on executable: java - found === limewire-4.18.8,1 depends on file: /usr/local/diablo-jdk1.6.0/bin/java - found === Generating temporary packing list === Checking if net-p2p/limewire already installed install -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/net-p2p/limewire/work/limewire.sh /usr/local/bin/limewire /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/share/java/limewire /bin/cp -R /usr/ports/net-p2p/limewire/work/LimeWire/* /usr/local/share/java/limewire/ /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/share/doc/limewire install -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/net-p2p/limewire/work/README.txt /usr/local/share/doc/limewire/ === Registering installation for limewire-4.18.8,1 Greetings, O.K. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: firewall rules for bitlord, yahoo, limewire
because historically ISPs used those ports for throttling. +1 . skype does the same thing. and it's p2p too , although a lot less so than limewire. well ther are excellent method to block skype when using HTTP proxy not NAT ;) (skype can do through proxy) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: firewall rules for bitlord, yahoo, limewire
Yeah. Limewire is written in Java (iirc), which makes it extremely easy to port it to any system that can run java. for P2P sharing rtorrent (/usr/ports/net-p2p/rtorrent) works excellent ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Limewire package install error
Fbsd1 wrote: Andrew D wrote: Fbsd1 wrote: Tried to pkg_add -r limewire. Dependant diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02.tbz File unavailable. The package diablo-jdk is not on 7.0 or 7.1 pkg server. Looking up diablo-jdk on the ports website, the long description points to here http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml How am i to get these mis-matched package names to fulfill the limewire dependent name? You do realise you don't have to install it using a pkg. you can 'make install' it in /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16 :) You do realize that I don't want to full around with compiling port source. That is the whole reason behind the package system. I am looking for answer to error in the package install of limewire and it's dependent diablo-jdk. I do now, with the cross-post It seemed like you wanted it done fairly quickly :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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freebsd-update
Hi, all: i did freebsd-update fetch and i got message: No updates needed to update system to 6.3-RELEASE-p6 what does that suppose to mean? My current system (this one is online) is p4. Thanks all. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd-update
I've also got some problem with freebsd-update, under 7.0. I installed them to update to 7.0-RELEASE-p6 and when I fetch them again I get the following: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/wildchild]# freebsd-update fetch Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 1 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 7.0-RELEASE from update1.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. The following files will be updated as part of updating to 7.0-RELEASE-p6: /boot/kernel/linker.hints If I install and fetch them over and over again, this file will always appear as needing an update. Gabriel 2008/11/26 gahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, all: i did freebsd-update fetch and i got message: No updates needed to update system to 6.3-RELEASE-p6 what does that suppose to mean? My current system (this one is online) is p4. Thanks all. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Gabriel Lavoie [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing FreeBSD
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 07:11:56PM -0800, Rommel Tan wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Sir/Madam: Pleasant day! First of all, sorry if this enquiry shouldn’t be directed to you, please help me direct to the right person. The questions mailing list is OK. Few months ago I’ve purchase a FreeBSD book which includes an installation DVD for FreeBSD 6.1. I tried to install it in my Toshiba Satellite, Intel Centrino with current Windows XP SP3 OS after doing some partition. But, I’m stock with boot error; sorry I’m very new to this system; I tried to search for an answer but no to avail. Here is the last part of the error: . Pci6: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2 Pci6: network at device 2.0 (no driver attached) Cbb0: PCI-CArdBus Bridge eme 0x8007000-0xb8007fff irq 16 at device 4.0 on pci6 Cardbus0: CardBus bus on cbb0 Pccard0: 16-bit PCCard on cbb0 Fwohci0: 1394 Open Host Controller Interface mem 0xb8008000-0xb80087ff,0xb80-0xb8003fff irq 18 at device 4.2 on pci6 Fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=0) Fwohci0: No. Of Isochronous channels is 4. Fwohci0: EUI64 00:02:3f:58:69:40:a5:e6 NMI ISA b0, EISA ff Have a look at the following line. It tells you what is wrong. RAM parity error, likely hardware failure. Your Random Access Memory is broken. This is a hardware failure and not something that FreeBSD can fix. Try replacing the RAM modules. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpy7dt3wFYrL.pgp Description: PGP signature
APIC error
This is occurring on a linux system, but from my investigations it wouldn't be limited to just this OS. Therefore, I come seeking wisdom from some real gurus... only kidding. But the collective experience here in sysadmin is greater than the experience of desktop users found on linux lists. I checked my dmesg today on a system which I know is failing, and found a message regarding an apic error on cpu1 00(40). The system is a dual core pentium. I know the system is failing because I'm getting usb enumeration errors (something that has come up twice before on dying systems, and has disappeared as soon as I bought a new one), plus acpi errors in the form of being unable to attach device data. I understand this software unable to cope with interrupts at the cpu, and can mean hardware failure or bad software. But given my hardware issues I'm fairly certain its the former. My biggest question is where? How does it come up with something like that? Can anyone shed some light on the details of this? I'll be greatful for whatever I can get- information is power after all. For reference, this is an ASUS notebook which is only a few months old. I rang the warranty support and started telling them what was going wrong with it, but I was interrupted by the guy telling me that unless window$ was on it they weren't even going to touch it. Needless to say I told him to shove that philosophy where the sun don't shine, but I thought this was strange coming from a company which has pioneered the use of linux in the user range through the eeepc range... Fair enough if they want window$ but they can put it on and not waste my time further AND leave me without a machine to work with. What I can't work out is how they are going to be able to diagnose a problem like this easier with an OS which is a black box (almost). And their words were that they couldn't test the device properly without window$! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
process always running
Hi, there is a method in freebsd for restart process whenever it terminates ? I use in linux respawn in inittab... Thanks ...bye ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: APIC error
Da Rock wrote: I know the system is failing because I'm getting usb enumeration errors (something that has come up twice before on dying systems, and has disappeared as soon as I bought a new one), plus acpi errors in the form of being unable to attach device data. I understand this software unable to cope with interrupts at the cpu, and can mean hardware failure or bad software. But given my hardware issues I'm fairly certain its the former. My biggest question is where? How does it come up with something like that? Can anyone shed some light on the details of this? I'll be greatful for whatever I can get- information is power after all. This is too little information for general troubleshooting, except if someone has encountered this exact problem before. From your description, especially since you're suggesting a hardware failure, it could be anything from BIOS or BIOS CMOS error (or battery) to real hardware problems in the conductors to the buses. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
realtime network replication
Ansar Mohammed wrote: Hello all, I need to replicate /home between two freebsd servers in real time (no scheduled rsyncs) What are my options? Hi, The following configuration seems to do what you ask for: Two NFS servers, each of them provides access to a huge equal-sized file-container. Third server mounts directories with files-containers from the prevoius two servers. GEOM RAID1 mirroring is used on the third server to create a /home filesystem backed by two huge file-containers. You will have a copy of your /home inside the GEOM file-container on each of the two servers. You will get realtime data replication. Drop a note if the performance of such configuration is acceptable :) Best regards, EforeZZ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Limewire package install error
Fbsd1 wrote: Tried to pkg_add -r limewire. Dependant diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02.tbz File unavailable. The package diablo-jdk is not on 7.0 or 7.1 pkg server. Looking up diablo-jdk on the ports website, the long description points to here http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml How am i to get these mis-matched package names to fulfill the limewire dependent name? You do realise you don't have to install it using a pkg. you can 'make install' it in /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16 :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Filesystem problems at boot and shutdown?
Rick Janssen wrote: I've been playing around with FreeBSD for some time now, still being unable to solve some problems. Let me explain. I'm trying to run a webserver on the machine. Just basic, nothing too fancy. Problem concerns the following: The website served is speedy as expected when accessed from local LAN, but when accessed from WAN via router, it's realy slow. So, to do some tests, this afternoon I requested some pages from an computer outside my LAN. Server was very slow again, even ssh slowed to a crawl. Suddenly, without reason I know off, everything sped up. I issued a reboot to check if the problem might have been 'solved'. This took a long time. Back home I checked the logs. It now appeared the long reboot-time was caused by a Syncing disk anomaly, which happens when the system prepares for shutting down. Nov 26 22:38:12 server kernel: Syncing disks, vnodes remaining...1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 timed out Nov 26 22:38:12 server kernel: Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...done Nov 26 22:38:12 server kernel: Syncing disks, buffers remaining... 184 185 186 1 185 185 185 185 184 184 185 185 185 184 184 185 1 184 184 184 184 185 185 185 1 184 184 184 184 184 185 184 184 185 185 1 185 184 184 184 184 184 184 1 185 184 184 184 184 185 184 184 185 1 185 184 184 184 184 184 184 185 1 184 184 185 184 184 184 184 185 184 184 185 1 185 185 184 184 184 185 184 184 184 185 1 184 184 185 184 184 185 184 184 185 185 184 184 184 184 184 1 184 184 184 1 184 184 185 1 185 184 184 1 184 185 184 184 185 185 184 184 ... etc etc... Nov 26 22:38:12 server kernel: Final sync complete So I figured, might as well run fschk -y in single user mode to fix potential problems. Now I got some new errors: Nov 26 20:48:11 server kernel: ad4: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=1364750271 Nov 26 20:48:11 server kernel: ad4: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=4ABORTED LBA=1364750271 Nov 26 20:48:11 server kernel: g_vfs_done():ad4s1g[WRITE(offset=682932174848, length=131072)]error = 5 So far, nothing serious has followed from these errors I know off. They only happen sporadically, during reboots. Are these to problems even related, or am I just unlucky? Anyone has some suggestions to fix them? Regards, Rick Unless there is some incompatibility between FreeBSD - Your disk controller - Your disk, my best guess is you have a failing disk. I would also suggest you check cables, connections (I guess this is an ATA disk so you may wish the check whether the flat cable is the 80-conductor type and is plugged in correctly). The disk is a new SATA model (1TB Samsung), so that lessens the chances of the disk itself being defective somewhat. The mainboard is a MSI K9A2VM-F (AMD 780V / AMD SB700 chipsets) Hopefully, if you are just playing with the system, you don't have any critical data in there, otherwise I would suggest you back up immediately. Do you have a spare disk to try and see what happens? The thing is, the problem only surfaced yesterday. I've been doing lots of stuff the last few weeks with the machine, including many reboots and file system activity. I think a new FreeBSD install on the current disk will also run fine initially. It seems to me problem 2 (filesystem) was triggered by problem 1 (webserver performance) somehow, and now it persists. It's not easily testable. Whether your other problem depends on this: It could be, since your webserver might be trying to read from a faulty area and keep retrying. Or indeed there is some incompatibility and the disk is constantly under-performing. But that wouldn't explain why LAN performance is excellent. Why only WAN? Also, via samba or FTP disk speed is as expected. You did not mention the speed of you WAN connection, but FWIW I am running a webserver behind a 1Mbps/256Kbps ADSL line and response is good enough. SSH is definitely good enough to use in long vi sessions, with lengthy documents. The connection is something similar. Should be no cause for the slowness. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A2DP
Hello, I noticed that pulseaudio port supports A2DP profile. Is it possible to use it with FreeBSD bluetooth stack to transmit audio using the SBC codec? Best regards, EforeZZ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: process always running
there is a method in freebsd for restart process whenever it terminates ? I use in linux respawn in inittab... I'm still a big fan of Daniel J. Bernstein's daemontools. Go grab it from http://cr.yp.to/daemontools.html and be sure to read instructions. Not exactly configure-make-install kinda thingy. I don't recall daemontools in FreeBSD ports though, maybe there is. Oh almost forgot, just to save your not-itchy hair, daemontools require your application to be running on foreground. Find a way to do so but if you haven't found it, there is a tool to do so. Once again, read instructions thoroughly. -- Regards, Anthony M. Rasat Manager - Technical, Network and Support Division PT. Jawa Pos National Network Graha Pena Jawa Pos Group Building, 5th floor Jln. Raya Kebayoran Lama 12, Jakarta Barat 12210 Indonesia.- Phone 02132185562 Phone 081574217035 Fax 02153651465 Web http://www.jpnn.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Filesystem problems at boot and shutdown?
Rick Janssen wrote: Rick Janssen wrote: I've been playing around with FreeBSD for some time now, still being unable to solve some problems. Let me explain. I'm trying to run a webserver on the machine. Just basic, nothing too fancy. Problem concerns the following: The website served is speedy as expected when accessed from local LAN, but when accessed from WAN via router, it's realy slow. So, to do some tests, this afternoon I requested some pages from an computer outside my LAN. Server was very slow again, even ssh slowed to a crawl. Suddenly, without reason I know off, everything sped up. I issued a reboot to check if the problem might have been 'solved'. This took a long time. Back home I checked the logs. It now appeared the long reboot-time was caused by a Syncing disk anomaly, which happens when the system prepares for shutting down. Nov 26 22:38:12 server kernel: Syncing disks, vnodes remaining...1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 timed out Nov 26 22:38:12 server kernel: Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...done Nov 26 22:38:12 server kernel: Syncing disks, buffers remaining... 184 185 186 1 185 185 185 185 184 184 185 185 185 184 184 185 1 184 184 184 184 185 185 185 1 184 184 184 184 184 185 184 184 185 185 1 185 184 184 184 184 184 184 1 185 184 184 184 184 185 184 184 185 1 185 184 184 184 184 184 184 185 1 184 184 185 184 184 184 184 185 184 184 185 1 185 185 184 184 184 185 184 184 184 185 1 184 184 185 184 184 185 184 184 185 185 184 184 184 184 184 1 184 184 184 1 184 184 185 1 185 184 184 1 184 185 184 184 185 185 184 184 ... etc etc... Nov 26 22:38:12 server kernel: Final sync complete So I figured, might as well run fschk -y in single user mode to fix potential problems. Now I got some new errors: Nov 26 20:48:11 server kernel: ad4: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=1364750271 Nov 26 20:48:11 server kernel: ad4: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=4ABORTED LBA=1364750271 Nov 26 20:48:11 server kernel: g_vfs_done():ad4s1g[WRITE(offset=682932174848, length=131072)]error = 5 So far, nothing serious has followed from these errors I know off. They only happen sporadically, during reboots. Are these to problems even related, or am I just unlucky? Anyone has some suggestions to fix them? Regards, Rick Unless there is some incompatibility between FreeBSD - Your disk controller - Your disk, my best guess is you have a failing disk. I would also suggest you check cables, connections (I guess this is an ATA disk so you may wish the check whether the flat cable is the 80-conductor type and is plugged in correctly). The disk is a new SATA model (1TB Samsung), so that lessens the chances of the disk itself being defective somewhat. The mainboard is a MSI K9A2VM-F (AMD 780V / AMD SB700 chipsets) In fact, new disks *can* be faulty. Usually, the faults surface few days / weeks after initial use. I don't really trust a new disk on my system until it runs for a couple of months. It will then run for years until it reaches end-of-life due to wear. I still suggest you try testing it with some programs like sysutils/smartmontools You did not mention the speed of you WAN connection, but FWIW I am running a webserver behind a 1Mbps/256Kbps ADSL line and response is good enough. SSH is definitely good enough to use in long vi sessions, with lengthy documents. The connection is something similar. Should be no cause for the slowness. Since it works fine on the LAN, you need to check the router though. Maybe some setting is slowing it down. Is it one of these cheap DSL routers? You may want to turn off various features on the router like firewalls, intrusion detections and so on (it goes without saying that you will secure your FreeBSD system instead) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: make release of current
Beech Rintoul wrote: On Wednesday 26 November 2008 20:40:21 michael wrote: will make release work for current? i've built a nice working system that i would like to be able to install on several identical machines. Yes, but read all the docs completely there are a number of options you need, like telling it to use your source tree instead of CVS and if you want to build packages etc. Beech Thanks, I've made a release before.. a long while ago in a galaxy far away... I was just wondering if current would work the same. Also, is it possible to make an iso containing a multi release? ie: i386 and amd64? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Limewire package install error
Andrew D wrote: Fbsd1 wrote: Tried to pkg_add -r limewire. Dependant diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02.tbz File unavailable. The package diablo-jdk is not on 7.0 or 7.1 pkg server. Looking up diablo-jdk on the ports website, the long description points to here http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml How am i to get these mis-matched package names to fulfill the limewire dependent name? You do realise you don't have to install it using a pkg. you can 'make install' it in /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16 :) You do realize that I don't want to full around with compiling port source. That is the whole reason behind the package system. I am looking for answer to error in the package install of limewire and it's dependent diablo-jdk. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: process always running
Hi Gian Paolo Buono [Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 02:05:44PM +0100]: there is a method in freebsd for restart process whenever it terminates ? I use in linux respawn in inittab... One possibility that comes to mind is using daemontools [0]. Should be in ports but there are probably easier ways to achieve this. [0] http://cr.yp.to/daemontools.html -- Dominik Meister My public GnuPG key is available at http://www.meisternet.ch/gpg.txt pgp73qfBc10qU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Installing FreeBSD
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 3:11 AM, Rommel Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Sir/Madam: Pleasant day! First of all, sorry if this enquiry shouldn't be directed to you, please help me direct to the right person. Few months ago I've purchase a FreeBSD book which includes an installation DVD for FreeBSD 6.1. I tried to install it in my Toshiba Satellite, Intel Centrino with current Windows XP SP3 OS after doing some partition. But, I'm stock with boot error; sorry I'm very new to this system; I tried to search for an answer but no to avail. Here is the last part of the error: . Pci6: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2 Pci6: network at device 2.0 (no driver attached) Cbb0: PCI-CArdBus Bridge eme 0x8007000-0xb8007fff irq 16 at device 4.0 on pci6 Cardbus0: CardBus bus on cbb0 Pccard0: 16-bit PCCard on cbb0 Fwohci0: 1394 Open Host Controller Interface mem 0xb8008000-0xb80087ff,0xb80-0xb8003fff irq 18 at device 4.2 on pci6 Fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=0) Fwohci0: No. Of Isochronous channels is 4. Fwohci0: EUI64 00:02:3f:58:69:40:a5:e6 NMI ISA b0, EISA ff RAM parity error, likely hardware failure. the above line is very clear to me. RAM is gone. Then it implies u cannot boot XP on this machine, can you ? Fatal trap 19: non-maskable interrupt trap while in kernel mode Instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc0528586 Stack pointer = 0x28:0xc10209c4 Frame pointer = 0x28:0xc10209d8 Code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 Processor eflags = interrupt enable, IOPL = 0 Current process= 0 (swapper) Trap number = 19 Panic: non-maskable interrupt trap Uptime: 1s Automatic reboot in 15 seconds – press a key on the console to abort Hope you can enlighten me on this matter. Thank you and more power! Best Regards, RommelTan --- The information contained in this Internet message is confidential and intended only for the use of the individual or entity identified. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying of the information contained in this Internet message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) immediately. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: APIC error
On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 14:32 +0100, Ivan Voras wrote: Da Rock wrote: I know the system is failing because I'm getting usb enumeration errors (something that has come up twice before on dying systems, and has disappeared as soon as I bought a new one), plus acpi errors in the form of being unable to attach device data. I understand this software unable to cope with interrupts at the cpu, and can mean hardware failure or bad software. But given my hardware issues I'm fairly certain its the former. My biggest question is where? How does it come up with something like that? Can anyone shed some light on the details of this? I'll be greatful for whatever I can get- information is power after all. This is too little information for general troubleshooting, except if someone has encountered this exact problem before. From your description, especially since you're suggesting a hardware failure, it could be anything from BIOS or BIOS CMOS error (or battery) to real hardware problems in the conductors to the buses. Would this be in the cpu itself or in the mainboard (best guess)? If its the cpu it could be from overheating (could the cpu alone cause all these errors?), but mainboard would mean an inherent communication problem wouldn't it? This really is a hardware issue any way you look at it I know, but a better understanding of what is going on might clarify what we're up against here... cheers guys :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to install RPM file on FreeBSD?
Hi. Dear All Could you pls let me know how to install file that the format is RPM on FreeBSD. Because I want to install a Virtual Machine which name is VMware Workstation for Linux on FreeBSD? But there only RPM has been published. So pls kindly help me deal with this case. Thanks. BR Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: process always running
On Thursday 27 November 2008 15:46:58 Dominik Meister wrote: Hi Gian Paolo Buono [Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 02:05:44PM +0100]: there is a method in freebsd for restart process whenever it terminates ? I use in linux respawn in inittab... One possibility that comes to mind is using daemontools [0]. Should be in ports but there are probably easier ways to achieve this. I've never tried it, but according to the manpage for init(8) you can get the same effect as a respawn entry in a sysV inittab by putting the command in /etc/ttys. Perhaps someone who's done it could comment? Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: make release of current
On Thursday 27 November 2008 04:44:19 michael wrote: Beech Rintoul wrote: On Wednesday 26 November 2008 20:40:21 michael wrote: will make release work for current? i've built a nice working system that i would like to be able to install on several identical machines. Yes, but read all the docs completely there are a number of options you need, like telling it to use your source tree instead of CVS and if you want to build packages etc. Beech Thanks, I've made a release before.. a long while ago in a galaxy far away... I was just wondering if current would work the same. Also, is it possible to make an iso containing a multi release? ie: i386 and amd64? Technically, but you'd have to burn it to a DVD and figure out how to choose which to boot from. There are people combining all three to a DVD, but I haven't built a release in awhile myself and have never tried making it into a DVD. Burning a -CURRENT release is no problem, just source it from your src tree. It's really no different than burning a regular release. There's no problem burning both iso's the problem will be the boot sector. Beech -- --- Beech Rintoul - FreeBSD Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://people.freebsd.org/~beech X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Skype: akbeech / \ - http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/7.0R/announce.html --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SNMPD Consuming Swap Space
Davenport, Steve M [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, I am running snmpd 5.4.1.2 built from a port on 7-Release, hardware is Sun V100, 512Mb total memory, 381Mb free. The daemon starts fine. When a snmpwalk is done from another system all is well until the interface table and then I see: interfaces.ifTable.ifEntry.ifSpeed.1 : Gauge32: 1000 interfaces.ifTable.ifEntry.ifSpeed.2 : Gauge32: 0 interfaces.ifTable.ifEntry.ifSpeed.3 : Gauge32: 0 snmpwalk: No response arrived before timeout. After the timeout happens, looking at swapinfo -k shows that swap space is continually consumed until empty at which point the snmpd daemon is stopped: fbsdh# swap_pager: out of swap space swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed Nov 25 11:44:08 fbsdh kernel: pid 84674 (snmpd), uid 0, was killed: out of swap space Now the swap space is freeded: fbsdh# swapinfo -k Device 1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity /dev/ad0b 209916026456 2072704 1% Has anyone seen this issue or know of a solution. Since you're running the SNMP daemon from a port, not the one from the base system, you may need developers' assistance for this sort of bug. Problems like this are often caused by wraparound bugs or infinite loops in my experience, although there are lots of other possibilities. If you can get a stack traceback when it crashes, that will is quite likely to give a solid clue. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gd-2.0.35 won't install on FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE
FuLLBLaSTstorm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GD-2.0.35 fails to install on my production server saying that GD_FONTS not found. How can I solve this problem? How were you trying to install gd? -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: make release of current
Beech Rintoul wrote: On Thursday 27 November 2008 04:44:19 michael wrote: Beech Rintoul wrote: On Wednesday 26 November 2008 20:40:21 michael wrote: will make release work for current? i've built a nice working system that i would like to be able to install on several identical machines. Yes, but read all the docs completely there are a number of options you need, like telling it to use your source tree instead of CVS and if you want to build packages etc. Beech Thanks, I've made a release before.. a long while ago in a galaxy far away... I was just wondering if current would work the same. Also, is it possible to make an iso containing a multi release? ie: i386 and amd64? Technically, but you'd have to burn it to a DVD and figure out how to choose which to boot from. There are people combining all three to a DVD, but I haven't built a release in awhile myself and have never tried making it into a DVD. Burning a -CURRENT release is no problem, just source it from your src tree. It's really no different than burning a regular release. There's no problem burning both iso's the problem will be the boot sector. Beech What do you think about using a different loader on the iso, one that will allow selection of a specific architecture? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc cross-compiler for linux
Xavier Otazu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thanks a lot for this link. Now I see that I need to use the
cross-gcc compiler.
I've never done it; I just looked it up.
I'm sure there's more information in the archives of the mailing lists,
and you can always try to consult the port maintainer.
I am using Matlab inside the linux emulator, and I nedd to create some
mex files from matlab. In order to create these mes files, matlab
needs access to a gcc compiler that produces linux elf files. I think I
cannot use the gentoo-stage3 port, because in order to use I would need
to chroot and it is not so easy from matlab. Also, when using this
compiler I should be able to acces to the linux-matlab header files,
but if I chroot to the gentoo port I won't be able to access them.
They should be inside the compat/linux tree, and therefore accessible.
I tried to install the devel/cross-gcc port, but I get errors when
compiling it.
Um, fix the errors?
I have some doubts about the wiki link you sent me:
1) What really means null-mount the home directory? I google-d some
info, but I didn't find good information. What really exactly means
corresponding entries in the passwd and shadow files are required
then?
a) man mount_nullfs
b) I would guess that /compat/linux/etc/{passwd,shadow} need to have
entries to match your /etc/master.passwd. I can't check for sure
2) What really means All you have to do is to compile the ports and
add includes and libs from the linux system your target in your
development? Do I have to include the linux headers during
devel/cross-gcc port building? Or do I have to include them when
cross-compiling my code?
Logically, I would think that would apply to compiling *your* code.
Anything that's need to build the port should be handled by the port
itself.
What options do I have to use when building the linux gcc
cross-compiler? I use
I don't know; all I can tell you is that you seem to be on the right
path here.
make TGTARCH=i386 TGTABI=linux install clean
Thanks a lot for your help
Cheers
Xavier
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:04:27 -0500
Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Xavier Otazu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I would like to compile a C++ code to be executed within the linux
emulator.
http://wiki.freebsd.org/linux-xdev
Good luck.
--
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http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/
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Re: How to install RPM file on FreeBSD?
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. Dear All Could you pls let me know how to install file that the format is RPM on FreeBSD. Because I want to install a Virtual Machine which name is VMware Workstation for Linux on FreeBSD? But there only RPM has been published. So pls kindly help me deal with this case. Thanks. BR Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] newer VMware Workstations do not work on FreeBSD. Have to use an older one of use virtualbox which works to a point. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: large binary, why not strip ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 06:40:34PM +, Masoom Shaikh wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:56:31PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: most of the programs installed from ports have large binary size on disk stripping em all reduces their size dramatically I cannot see the reason for not stripping them by default ? me too do I miss anything ? no. I am confused why both of you are seeing most of the programs installed this way. Can you confirm that this is true and not just an exaggeration? As Matthew says, there are some ports that fail to strip their binaries because of how they install files (using cp etc). These are bugs that should be reported to their maintainers on a case by case basis. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Before sending mail I manually stripped * in /usr/local/bin else I cud send u the o/p of `ls -lhS` yes, most is bit exaggerated...I perhaps was talking about first five binaries listed in increasing order of size... Yeah the largest binaries are likely to be unstripped. You can use pkg_which (part of portupgrade) to work out which ports they came from, then send the mainainer a polite email and/or PR request that they be installed stripped. Bonus points if you come up with a patch to do this: in most cases it will be a simple matter of changing the port's do-install: target to use INSTALL_* macros instead of cp/bsdtar etc. This would be a good project to get some familiarity with the ports tree. I was going to do some work on this except $file *|grep not stripped $ - -- Eitan Adler GNU Key fingerptrint: 2E13 BC16 5F54 0FBD 62ED 42B6 B65F 24AB E9C2 CCD1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkux3oACgkQtl8kq+nCzNEWwgCglRkz0Il3/bLJazVszuRf69f1 pegAoI/paoyYAz4hqRZhdWuUb6WJk+tK =fGB3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Filesystem problems at boot and shutdown?
Nov 26 20:48:11 server kernel: ad4: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=1364750271 Nov 26 20:48:11 server kernel: ad4: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=4ABORTED LBA=1364750271 Nov 26 20:48:11 server kernel: g_vfs_done():ad4s1g[WRITE(offset=682932174848, length=131072)]error = 5 cabling problems or disk overheating (or controller) or failed disk. ICRC error suggest that it's rather cabling problem. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDM stopping
Pieter Donche [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FreeBSD-7.0-RELEASE, with KDE as desktop environment and KDM as display manager. I have 2 users, say user1 and user2. Boot, KDM login as user1, OK. Then I do a close session. OK, KDM presents me again with the KDM login screen, login as user2, OK. Then again, close session. Now, the KDM login screen does not come back. I am stuck with a cursor blinking at the upper left corner. Ctrl-Alt-F1 brings me to the console, Ctrl-Alt-F7: no X, just a login:prompt If I reboot and do the same thing, but now first with user2, then user1 - exactly same behaviour (X dies at the second close session). So, it's not connected with user2. Anyone a idea what could be wrong? Below are some log details: Does this happen with xdm as well? Have you checked with the FreeBSD kde mailing list? The /var/log/kdm-log shows: -- ... X.Org X Server 1.4.0 Release Date: 5 September 2007 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE i386 Current Operating System: FreeBSD pclinwi74.cmi.ua.ac.be 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7. 0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/ obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Build Date: 13 February 2008 05:50:12PM Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Wed Nov 26 16:27:31 2008 (EE) Unable to locate/open config file New driver is i810 (==) Using default built-in configuration (55 lines) (EE) Failed to load module fbdev (module does not exist, 0) (II) Module ddc already built-in (II) Module ramdac already built-in FreeFontPath: FPE /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. FreeFontPath: FPE /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. (EE) I810(0): V_BIOS address 0x0 out of range Fatal server error: Caught signal 11. Server aborting X.Org X Server 1.4.0 Release Date: 5 September 2007 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE i386 Current Operating System: FreeBSD pclinwi74.cmi.ua.ac.be 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7. 0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/ obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Build Date: 13 February 2008 05:50:12PM Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Wed Nov 26 16:43:42 2008 (EE) Unable to locate/open config file New driver is i810 (==) Using default built-in configuration (55 lines) (EE) Failed to load module fbdev (module does not exist, 0) (EE) I810(0): V_BIOS address 0x0 out of range (EE) I810(0): VBE initialization failed. (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Fatal server error: no screens found --- /var/log/messages contains: -- .. Nov 26 16:29:03 pclinwi74 kernel: pid 853 (Xorg), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (c ore dumped) Nov 26 16:29:03 pclinwi74 kdm-bin[850]: X server for display :0 terminated unex pectedly Nov 26 16:29:03 pclinwi74 kdm-bin: :0[1137]: IO Error in XOpenDisplay Nov 26 16:29:03 pclinwi74 kdm-bin[850]: Display :0 cannot be opened Nov 26 16:29:03 pclinwi74 kdm-bin[850]: Unable to fire up local display :0; dis abling. Nov 26 16:29:30 pclinwi74 login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0 Nov 26 16:43:40 pclinwi74 shutdown: reboot by root: Nov 26 16:43:42 pclinwi74 kdm-bin[850]: X server for display :0 terminated unex pectedly Nov 26 16:43:42 pclinwi74 kdm-bin[850]: Unable to fire up local display :0; dis abling. Nov 26 16:43:42 pclinwi74 syslogd: exiting on signal 15 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pf or ipf rules to allow p2p Limewire through
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 3:56 AM, Fbsd1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What pf or ipf firewall keep-state rules needed to allow p2p application such as limewire through? Using same firewall rules as in handbook example. Well, what port does limewire use? You need to figure out what port each application uses, then open the port in your firewall rules. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pidgin and Vagalume (DBUS problem?)
Hi Vagalume (audio/vagalume) has an option to display the currently playing track in Pidgin's status message. It doesn't work though, so I was hoping someone in here could help me. I don't know if it's the same issue or not, but purple-remote can't seem to communicate with Pidgin either: %purple-remote setstatus?status=awaymessage=test No existing libpurple instance detected. Lars ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc cross-compiler for linux
On Wednesday 26 November 2008 18:48:39 Xavier Otazu wrote: On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:31:10 +0100 Tijl Coosemans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From that error message I'd say you probably need to populate /usr/local/i386-linux/include with glibc and linux kernel headers. How can I populate it with them? Manually installing them in this directory? May be the devel/cross-binutils port should do it? Is there any port that can populate it? I don't think there's a port. I'd start with a glibc-headers and kernel-headers RPM from the linux_base port you've installed. http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=glibc-headers http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=kernel-headers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: getpriority(2) and rtprio(2) implementation
On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 20:14:02 +0100, Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For future ref:
find /usr/src/sys -name '*.c' -exec grep kern_$name_of_syscall {} +
will catch 99% of the cases.
I did check with the Midnight Commander's Meta-? (find):
Search from /usr/src in *.c containing getpriority,
refined getpriority(int to get the function's prototype
and implementation. I'm a lazy guy. :-)
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Re: GIANT_LOCK in release7.0
Alexander K. Beros wrote: I have not been able to find any discussion of the following issue. Ever since I upgraded to release 7.0, whenever I print to my network printer (I am using Samba) I get the following output to ttyv0: lpt0: [GIANT-LOCKED] lpt0: [ITHREAD] lpt0: [GIANT-LOCKED] lpt0: [ITHREAD] lpt0: [GIANT-LOCKED] lpt0: [ITHREAD] lpt0: [GIANT-LOCKED] lpt0: [ITHREAD] lpt0: [GIANT-LOCKED] lpt0: [ITHREAD] ... this can continue for a very long time depending on the size of the queue The actual printing is fine, and since I am rarely at the terminal it isn't a serious problem. In fact, if I am working at the server and someone else is sending jobs to the printer I switch over to ttyv1, so there is really no inconvenience. On the other hand, I thought that release 7 is GIANT_LOCK free, so this is rather unexpected. I would appreciate any information or explanation. That's not a correct statement. The giant lock is not invoked in most code pathways, but it is still present in some corners of the kernel, for example in some drivers. It's not important for drivers like lpt which are low performance devices. Do you get any additional diagnostics when you boot in verbose mode (boot -v from loader, or use the menu option)? It might be that lpt is encountering an error frequently and resetting itself during I/O. Also please follow up with your entire dmesg. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: process always running
Hi, I use it and it works fine for me. I don't need any third party software to run/restart process. Recently I used daemontools for respawn process but it was uncomfortable to install and configure for me. Best regards, Sebastian Tymkow 2008/11/27 Jonathan McKeown [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thursday 27 November 2008 15:46:58 Dominik Meister wrote: Hi Gian Paolo Buono [Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 02:05:44PM +0100]: there is a method in freebsd for restart process whenever it terminates ? I use in linux respawn in inittab... One possibility that comes to mind is using daemontools [0]. Should be in ports but there are probably easier ways to achieve this. I've never tried it, but according to the manpage for init(8) you can get the same effect as a respawn entry in a sysV inittab by putting the command in /etc/ttys. Perhaps someone who's done it could comment? Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: APIC error
On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 15:23 +0100, Ivan Voras wrote: Da Rock wrote: Would this be in the cpu itself or in the mainboard (best guess)? If its the cpu it could be from overheating (could the cpu alone cause all these errors?), but mainboard would mean an inherent communication problem wouldn't it? If you can look up the CPU temperature in your BIOS setup, you can easily see if the CPU is overheating - reboot and look it up immediately after the problems start. I'm not sure I expressed myself too clearly; I meant cpu failure due to it running too hot for extended periods of time, not causing immediate problems while this occurring but making the problem apparent later when the now damaged component on the chip is used. Thinking about it, though, it would seem more likely that one of the bridges (north bridge?)(which would mean their cooling mechs aren't doing very well in the laptop chassis) would be in its death throws because the cpu is less involved when data is transferred between components like disks, usb, and video. The cpu is only dragged into the action to start the process and monitor that it has been completed, or to handle something the component can't handle like decoding or encoding. Does that make sense or am I talking gibberish? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: offline upgrade
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:03:33 -0800 (PST), gahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, All: I have two boxes running 6.3. For certain reasons that I can't upgrade them online with freebsd-update utility; the ftp sessions are blocked. Are there any other way to upgrade the system offline, both kernel and those needed packages? If you have some means of transferring `/var/db/freebsd-update' from a machine that *does* have this sort of connectivity, you should be able to run only: # freebsd-update install ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: top incorrectly reporting process time
Ott Köstner wrote: Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 04:34:01PM +0200, Ott Köstner wrote: On several FreeBSD machines I have the following problem: What FreeBSD version? (It matters) 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD But I can experience it also on a 7.0 machine. Seems that top reports incorrectly processes with multiple threads. $ top -bUbind last pid: 21635; load averages: 0.73, 0.46, 0.29 up 1+00:17:18 16:48:10 54 processes: 1 running, 53 sleeping Mem: 66M Active, 1174M Inact, 204M Wired, 36K Cache, 112M Buf, 555M Free Swap: 2048M Total, 2048M Free PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZERES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 979 bind8 440 40288K 32916K select 0 0:16 0.00% named $ ps -ax|grep 979 979 ?? Ss 1:11.26 /usr/sbin/named -n 5 -t /var/named -u bind Check top -H to display the statistics for individual threads. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel crash before dumpon
Frank Solensky wrote: I'm trying to get a dump off a machine with a 7.1-beta2 kernel that's been crashing during the boot process, following the instructions on http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html#KERNELDEBUG-OBTAIN I've recompiled the kernel with -g but no vmcore file appears so I'm assuming that the crash occurs before dumpon is executed. The page includes the following suggestion on how I might be able to proceed: Alternatively, the dump device can be hard-coded via the dump clause in the config(5) line of a kernel configuration file. This approach is deprecated and should be used only if a kernel is crashing before dumpon(8) can be executed. I tried adding config dump /dev/ad4s3b to the configuration file but that option appears to be no longer supported: the config command gives an error message of: root/dump/swap specification obsolete Is the paragraph above obsolete? If so, what's the preferred way to collect the dump? Yes, it's obsolete. Please file a PR to remove the outdated advice. Unfortunately in FreeBSD 5 and later there is no way to dump prior to multi-user startup, because of how device discovery is now dynamic. You can still use other tools like ddb/remote gdb etc. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd-update
On Wed 2008-11-26 20:45:34 UTC-0800, gahn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: i did freebsd-update fetch and i got message: No updates needed to update system to 6.3-RELEASE-p6 what does that suppose to mean? My current system (this one is online) is p4. Did you run freebsd-update install? Did you reboot the machine after running the install command? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pf or ipf rules to allow p2p Limewire through
Fbsd1 said the following on 2008-11-27 09:56: What pf or ipf firewall keep-state rules needed to allow p2p application such as limewire through? Using same firewall rules as in handbook example. Put this in your /etc/ipnat.rules rdr rl0 0.0.0.0/0 port port# - internal-ip port port# tcp rdr rl0 0.0.0.0/0 port port# - internal-ip port port# udp ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pf or ipf rules to allow p2p Limewire through
Bernt Hansson wrote: Fbsd1 said the following on 2008-11-27 09:56: What pf or ipf firewall keep-state rules needed to allow p2p application such as limewire through? Using same firewall rules as in handbook example. Put this in your /etc/ipnat.rules rdr rl0 0.0.0.0/0 port port# - internal-ip port port# tcp rdr rl0 0.0.0.0/0 port port# - internal-ip port port# udp How about explaining just why this is going to allow p2p limewire work? I think you are missing the fact that limewire does not use dedicated port numbers. Every session uses different port numbers and the remote computers come in on different hight port numbers. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pf or ipf rules to allow p2p Limewire through
APseudoUtopia wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 3:56 AM, Fbsd1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What pf or ipf firewall keep-state rules needed to allow p2p application such as limewire through? Using same firewall rules as in handbook example. Well, what port does limewire use? You need to figure out what port each application uses, then open the port in your firewall rules. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think you are missing the fact that limewire does not use dedicated port numbers. Every session uses different port numbers and the remote computers come in on different hight port numbers. Limewire starts off with a proto igmp multicast packet to the limewire master server where all the other users online computers are listed. Really need someone who has firewall rule for limewire using ipf or pf to share their knowledge. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: top incorrectly reporting process time
Kris Kennaway wrote: Ott Köstner wrote: Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 04:34:01PM +0200, Ott Köstner wrote: On several FreeBSD machines I have the following problem: What FreeBSD version? (It matters) 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD But I can experience it also on a 7.0 machine. Seems that top reports incorrectly processes with multiple threads. $ top -bUbind last pid: 21635; load averages: 0.73, 0.46, 0.29 up 1+00:17:18 16:48:10 54 processes: 1 running, 53 sleeping Mem: 66M Active, 1174M Inact, 204M Wired, 36K Cache, 112M Buf, 555M Free Swap: 2048M Total, 2048M Free PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZERES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 979 bind8 440 40288K 32916K select 0 0:16 0.00% named $ ps -ax|grep 979 979 ?? Ss 1:11.26 /usr/sbin/named -n 5 -t /var/named -u bind Check top -H to display the statistics for individual threads. Kris # top -bUmysql last pid: 8336; load averages: 0.33, 0.30, 0.24 up 13+22:36:29 08:47:07 157 processes: 1 running, 156 sleeping Mem: 1163M Active, 2058M Inact, 555M Wired, 160M Cache, 214M Buf, 22M Free Swap: 4096M Total, 432K Used, 4095M Free PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZERES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 1079 mysql 9 200 92316K 70472K sigwai 1 0:04 0.00% mysqld 1015 mysql 1 80 7056K 1332K wait 1 0:00 0.00% sh - # top -bHUmysql last pid: 8497; load averages: 0.36, 0.32, 0.25 up 13+22:37:43 08:48:21 148 processes: 4 running, 144 sleeping Mem: 1147M Active, 2068M Inact, 554M Wired, 156M Cache, 214M Buf, 32M Free Swap: 4096M Total, 432K Used, 4095M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZERES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 1079 mysql 440 92316K 70472K select 0 4:10 0.00% mysqld 1079 mysql 440 92316K 70472K select 0 3:12 0.00% mysqld 1079 mysql 440 92316K 70472K select 1 1:59 0.00% mysqld 1079 mysql 440 92316K 70472K ucond 0 0:47 0.00% mysqld 1079 mysql 440 92316K 70472K select 0 0:26 0.00% mysqld 1079 mysql 200 92316K 70472K sigwai 1 0:04 0.00% mysqld 1079 mysql 440 92316K 70472K ucond 0 0:04 0.00% mysqld 1079 mysql 440 92316K 70472K ucond 1 0:01 0.00% mysqld 1015 mysql 80 7056K 1332K wait 1 0:00 0.00% sh 1079 mysql 440 92316K 70472K ucond 0 0:00 0.00% mysqld -- # ps -ax|grep 1079 1079 con- S576:13.90 [mysqld] -- # ps -aHx|grep 1079 1079 con- S 1:58.71 [mysqld] 1079 con- I 0:00.00 [mysqld] 1079 con- S 0:01.30 [mysqld] 1079 con- I 0:46.72 [mysqld] 1079 con- S 0:03.51 [mysqld] 1079 con- S 0:26.05 [mysqld] 1079 con- S 3:11.80 [mysqld] 1079 con- S 4:09.88 [mysqld] 1079 con- S 0:03.67 [mysqld] Strange? Greetings, O.K. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pf or ipf rules to allow p2p Limewire through
Fbsd1 said the following on 2008-11-28 07:24: Bernt Hansson wrote: Fbsd1 said the following on 2008-11-27 09:56: What pf or ipf firewall keep-state rules needed to allow p2p application such as limewire through? Using same firewall rules as in handbook example. Put this in your /etc/ipnat.rules rdr rl0 0.0.0.0/0 port port# - internal-ip port port# tcp rdr rl0 0.0.0.0/0 port port# - internal-ip port port# udp How about explaining just why this is going to allow p2p limewire work? Read the handbook on ipfilter. http://coombs.anu.edu.au/~avalon/ I think you are missing the fact that limewire does not use dedicated port numbers. Every session uses different port numbers and the remote computers come in on different hight port numbers. Change port# to port range, then. Or you can skip the firewall. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: top incorrectly reporting process time
Ott Köstner wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Ott Köstner wrote: Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 04:34:01PM +0200, Ott Köstner wrote: On several FreeBSD machines I have the following problem: What FreeBSD version? (It matters) 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD But I can experience it also on a 7.0 machine. Seems that top reports incorrectly processes with multiple threads. $ top -bUbind last pid: 21635; load averages: 0.73, 0.46, 0.29 up 1+00:17:18 16:48:10 54 processes: 1 running, 53 sleeping Mem: 66M Active, 1174M Inact, 204M Wired, 36K Cache, 112M Buf, 555M Free Swap: 2048M Total, 2048M Free PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZERES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 979 bind8 440 40288K 32916K select 0 0:16 0.00% named $ ps -ax|grep 979 979 ?? Ss 1:11.26 /usr/sbin/named -n 5 -t /var/named -u bind Check top -H to display the statistics for individual threads. Kris # top -bUmysql last pid: 8336; load averages: 0.33, 0.30, 0.24 up 13+22:36:29 08:47:07 157 processes: 1 running, 156 sleeping Mem: 1163M Active, 2058M Inact, 555M Wired, 160M Cache, 214M Buf, 22M Free Swap: 4096M Total, 432K Used, 4095M Free PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZERES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 1079 mysql 9 200 92316K 70472K sigwai 1 0:04 0.00% mysqld 1015 mysql 1 80 7056K 1332K wait 1 0:00 0.00% sh - # top -bHUmysql last pid: 8497; load averages: 0.36, 0.32, 0.25 up 13+22:37:43 08:48:21 148 processes: 4 running, 144 sleeping Mem: 1147M Active, 2068M Inact, 554M Wired, 156M Cache, 214M Buf, 32M Free Swap: 4096M Total, 432K Used, 4095M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZERES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 1079 mysql 440 92316K 70472K select 0 4:10 0.00% mysqld 1079 mysql 440 92316K 70472K select 0 3:12 0.00% mysqld 1079 mysql 440 92316K 70472K select 1 1:59 0.00% mysqld 1079 mysql 440 92316K 70472K ucond 0 0:47 0.00% mysqld 1079 mysql 440 92316K 70472K select 0 0:26 0.00% mysqld 1079 mysql 200 92316K 70472K sigwai 1 0:04 0.00% mysqld 1079 mysql 440 92316K 70472K ucond 0 0:04 0.00% mysqld 1079 mysql 440 92316K 70472K ucond 1 0:01 0.00% mysqld 1015 mysql 80 7056K 1332K wait 1 0:00 0.00% sh 1079 mysql 440 92316K 70472K ucond 0 0:00 0.00% mysqld -- This seems to be the only inconsistent one: # ps -ax|grep 1079 1079 con- S576:13.90 [mysqld] Check that your ps binary is in sync with your kernel, i.e. rebuild world with the same sources you used to build your kernel. Kris -- # ps -aHx|grep 1079 1079 con- S 1:58.71 [mysqld] 1079 con- I 0:00.00 [mysqld] 1079 con- S 0:01.30 [mysqld] 1079 con- I 0:46.72 [mysqld] 1079 con- S 0:03.51 [mysqld] 1079 con- S 0:26.05 [mysqld] 1079 con- S 3:11.80 [mysqld] 1079 con- S 4:09.88 [mysqld] 1079 con- S 0:03.67 [mysqld] Strange? Greetings, O.K. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pf or ipf rules to allow p2p Limewire through
Bernt Hansson wrote: Fbsd1 said the following on 2008-11-28 07:24: Bernt Hansson wrote: Fbsd1 said the following on 2008-11-27 09:56: What pf or ipf firewall keep-state rules needed to allow p2p application such as limewire through? Using same firewall rules as in handbook example. Put this in your /etc/ipnat.rules rdr rl0 0.0.0.0/0 port port# - internal-ip port port# tcp rdr rl0 0.0.0.0/0 port port# - internal-ip port port# udp How about explaining just why this is going to allow p2p limewire work? Read the handbook on ipfilter. http://coombs.anu.edu.au/~avalon/ I think you are missing the fact that limewire does not use dedicated port numbers. Every session uses different port numbers and the remote computers come in on different hight port numbers. Change port# to port range, then. Or you can skip the firewall. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I checked the ipfilter online handbook and can not find anything about rules for igmp packets, p2p or limewire. I know what a rdr statement does but can not see how it can be applied to a p2p application which does NOT use dedicated port numbers. The only way i can run limewire is to disable my firewall and that does not make me happy. I think the conclusion is that all 3 of the freebsd firewalls are unable to monitor packet exchange of p2p applications. These firewalls were designed before p2p applications were developed and their (p2p) inherent design is to defeat standard firewall designs. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
