Re: [Freedos-user] Zip vs Pkzip
Hi, On Jun 2, 2015 8:53 PM, "Don Flowers" wrote: > > I've recently become aware of some incompatibility between > our FreeDOS unzip, Linux unzip and the legacy Pkunzip > versions 2.04 and 2.50. I download hundreds of SIMTEL/BBS > and other vintage files a month and I know that statistically > a percentage of those will be incomplete or have CRC errors. What Simtel mirror are you using? Have you tried a different site? > But files that I know are complete are not being uncompressed > properly. This almost always shows up in a blank README file. This could also be a connection error on your end, whether faulty hardware or software. > I typically download and unzip with linux but when I noticed > this anomaly I switched to FreeDOS unzip and noticed some > improvement, but when I switched to pkunzip the number > of blank files has dropped dramatically. Has anyone else > noticed this? Which Info-Zip? 5.52 or 6.00? DJGPP (32-bit) or 16-bit? LFNs or SFNs? Keep in mind that there are various other unzipping tools (e.g. DJTAR or Doszip or p7zip). I've personally not seen any errors in recent memory, and (as Louis already suggested) I often run "unzip -t". -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Zip vs Pkzip
With Info-Zip (FreeDOS, djgpp, Linux) and pkzip, you can always the test the file with "-t" (or "-test") command. Which specific version of Info-Zip have you been using? A specific Info-Zip version and a specific zip file to test against would go a long way to helping you. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 6:52 PM, Don Flowers wrote: > I've recently become aware of some incompatibility between our FreeDOS > unzip, Linux unzip and the legacy Pkunzip versions 2.04 and 2.50. I download > hundreds of SIMTEL/BBS and other vintage files a month and I know that > statistically a percentage of those will be incomplete or have CRC errors. > But files that I know are complete are not being uncompressed properly. This > almost always shows up in a blank README file. I typically download and > unzip with linux but when I noticed this anomaly I switched to FreeDOS unzip > and noticed some improvement, but when I switched to pkunzip the number of > blank files has dropped dramatically. Has anyone else noticed this? > > -- > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Getting mpxplay and any CD player to work
That machine is not running at the moment (and it's late here), but from memory: A220 D1 I5 H3 T4. In connection with that, it's perhaps worth noting afresh that DOOM sound works when set to use Sound Blaster. On 6/2/2015 7:31 PM, Louis Santillan wrote: > What's your BLASTER setting from autoexec.bat? > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 4:20 PM, John Hupp wrote: >> I saw little in mpxplay.ini that seemed like it was capable of >> immediately hanging the system. I commented out UseLFN to no effect. I >> also changed SoundCardName from AUTO to S16, and mpxplay reported that >> it could not initialize the card or a message to that effect. Then I >> changed that to SBP and it hung as before. >> >> On 6/2/2015 4:59 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote: >>> Also, the cable is needed only if the player uses the CD-player audio >>> capabilities. MPXPLAY does not, it reads and processes audio tracks >>> himself instead. >>> >>> You will need to fiddle with your mpxplay.ini file for sure. But as for >>> a 'CD Player that works with FreeDOS', I'd say that pretty much any >>> player should work. Have you tried any yet, beside mpxplay? >>> >>> Mateusz >>> >>> >>> >>> On 02/06/2015 22:42, John Hupp wrote: On 6/2/2015 4:16 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: > On 6/2/2015 12:16 PM, John Hupp wrote: >> Are there tips/tricks to get mpxplay to work? What about a CD player >> that's known to work with FD 1.1? >> >> I'm using a default FD 1.1 setup and selecting the first menu item at >> boot. >> > Just to cover all the bases, and probably unrelated to the direct > software problems, you need to have a cable connecting your CD drive > directly to your sound card in order to play audio DVDs. That's however > not necessary to play MP3 files (which are just data files)... > > http://superuser.com/questions/566611/sound-output-connector-on-cd-rom-drive > > Ralf Hah! I did indeed forget to reconnect the cable during the various trials. But as you also note, it is unrelated to the software problems. I still get nothing with the cable connected. >>> -- >>> ___ >>> Freedos-user mailing list >>> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> >> -- >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Zip vs Pkzip
I've recently become aware of some incompatibility between our FreeDOS unzip, Linux unzip and the legacy Pkunzip versions 2.04 and 2.50. I download hundreds of SIMTEL/BBS and other vintage files a month and I know that statistically a percentage of those will be incomplete or have CRC errors. But files that I know are complete are not being uncompressed properly. This almost always shows up in a blank README file. I typically download and unzip with linux but when I noticed this anomaly I switched to FreeDOS unzip and noticed some improvement, but when I switched to pkunzip the number of blank files has dropped dramatically. Has anyone else noticed this? -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Getting mpxplay and any CD player to work
What's your BLASTER setting from autoexec.bat? On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 4:20 PM, John Hupp wrote: > I saw little in mpxplay.ini that seemed like it was capable of > immediately hanging the system. I commented out UseLFN to no effect. I > also changed SoundCardName from AUTO to S16, and mpxplay reported that > it could not initialize the card or a message to that effect. Then I > changed that to SBP and it hung as before. > > On 6/2/2015 4:59 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote: >> Also, the cable is needed only if the player uses the CD-player audio >> capabilities. MPXPLAY does not, it reads and processes audio tracks >> himself instead. >> >> You will need to fiddle with your mpxplay.ini file for sure. But as for >> a 'CD Player that works with FreeDOS', I'd say that pretty much any >> player should work. Have you tried any yet, beside mpxplay? >> >> Mateusz >> >> >> >> On 02/06/2015 22:42, John Hupp wrote: >>> On 6/2/2015 4:16 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: On 6/2/2015 12:16 PM, John Hupp wrote: > Are there tips/tricks to get mpxplay to work? What about a CD player > that's known to work with FD 1.1? > > I'm using a default FD 1.1 setup and selecting the first menu item at > boot. > Just to cover all the bases, and probably unrelated to the direct software problems, you need to have a cable connecting your CD drive directly to your sound card in order to play audio DVDs. That's however not necessary to play MP3 files (which are just data files)... http://superuser.com/questions/566611/sound-output-connector-on-cd-rom-drive Ralf >>> Hah! I did indeed forget to reconnect the cable during the various trials. >>> >>> But as you also note, it is unrelated to the software problems. I still >>> get nothing with the cable connected. >>> >> >> -- >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > -- > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Getting mpxplay and any CD player to work
I saw little in mpxplay.ini that seemed like it was capable of immediately hanging the system. I commented out UseLFN to no effect. I also changed SoundCardName from AUTO to S16, and mpxplay reported that it could not initialize the card or a message to that effect. Then I changed that to SBP and it hung as before. On 6/2/2015 4:59 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > Also, the cable is needed only if the player uses the CD-player audio > capabilities. MPXPLAY does not, it reads and processes audio tracks > himself instead. > > You will need to fiddle with your mpxplay.ini file for sure. But as for > a 'CD Player that works with FreeDOS', I'd say that pretty much any > player should work. Have you tried any yet, beside mpxplay? > > Mateusz > > > > On 02/06/2015 22:42, John Hupp wrote: >> On 6/2/2015 4:16 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: >>> On 6/2/2015 12:16 PM, John Hupp wrote: Are there tips/tricks to get mpxplay to work? What about a CD player that's known to work with FD 1.1? I'm using a default FD 1.1 setup and selecting the first menu item at boot. >>> Just to cover all the bases, and probably unrelated to the direct >>> software problems, you need to have a cable connecting your CD drive >>> directly to your sound card in order to play audio DVDs. That's however >>> not necessary to play MP3 files (which are just data files)... >>> >>> http://superuser.com/questions/566611/sound-output-connector-on-cd-rom-drive >>> >>> Ralf >> Hah! I did indeed forget to reconnect the cable during the various trials. >> >> But as you also note, it is unrelated to the software problems. I still >> get nothing with the cable connected. >> > > -- > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Getting mpxplay and any CD player to work
Thanks. I'll have a closer look at mpxplay.ini. But no, though I have tried several CD players, I have not tried any other sound file players except the sound card's playfile.exe utility that works with WAV's. On 6/2/2015 4:59 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > Also, the cable is needed only if the player uses the CD-player audio > capabilities. MPXPLAY does not, it reads and processes audio tracks > himself instead. > > You will need to fiddle with your mpxplay.ini file for sure. But as for > a 'CD Player that works with FreeDOS', I'd say that pretty much any > player should work. Have you tried any yet, beside mpxplay? > > Mateusz > > > > On 02/06/2015 22:42, John Hupp wrote: >> On 6/2/2015 4:16 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: >>> On 6/2/2015 12:16 PM, John Hupp wrote: Are there tips/tricks to get mpxplay to work? What about a CD player that's known to work with FD 1.1? I'm using a default FD 1.1 setup and selecting the first menu item at boot. >>> Just to cover all the bases, and probably unrelated to the direct >>> software problems, you need to have a cable connecting your CD drive >>> directly to your sound card in order to play audio DVDs. That's however >>> not necessary to play MP3 files (which are just data files)... >>> >>> http://superuser.com/questions/566611/sound-output-connector-on-cd-rom-drive >>> >>> Ralf >> Hah! I did indeed forget to reconnect the cable during the various trials. >> >> But as you also note, it is unrelated to the software problems. I still >> get nothing with the cable connected. >> > > -- > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Drivers or tips for 3 ISA sound cards?
Hi, On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > > Have the same problem with a DELL laptop. Tried a few dozen drivers > and none worked. They all require Windows be present. Unless you can fool > it into thinking Windows is there; I think its hopeless. I gave up. Somebody would have to contact the soundcard vendors and pester them to release their old drivers in DOS-friendly format. Obviously requiring Windows just to install is a bad move. Also, being able to freely redistribute such drivers publicly would also be a nice touch. Granted, I don't expect any of that will ever happen, but having to blindly search random third-party websites just makes things even more difficult. I did find one (third-party) site that claimed to have SB Live! drivers for my old P4 (Dell), but that too required Windows (and no, HX didn't work). Even the *.CAB weren't accessible to p7zip, so I dunno! Generally speaking, you have to find a "modern" OS (FreeBSD, Linux, etc) that supports your hardware, and make sure it actually works. Then and only then can you find some genius to "maybe" port it back to DOS. At least with sources there is minimal hope. I really don't think binary driver compatibility with other OSes is feasible at all, but I could be wrong. (It's been done before but isn't very popular, apparently.) What stuff are you trying to run anyways? Games? Audio CD? MP3? WAV? MOD? MID? AVI? Although I usually don't do much with sound, thus am horribly unaware of most stuff, I did test a bunch of things on my old P4. Most of it didn't work (e.g. Cubic, Judas, WSS, PacePlayer). Almost the only thing that did work was PC speaker. At least some rare tools (KPC, MP3PC) support that: http://www.advsys.net/ken/utils.htm Even Mpxplay didn't work. But Quickview (shareware) surprisingly worked fine (with its EMU10K1 driver). Then and only then (after successfully playing a file) did Mpxplay start working. (So it's not initializing something properly.) I forgot to test DOSSOUND, but its website doesn't mention my soundcard anyways. Long story short: there are very few developers that are willing and active in such a field. You would have to contact them directly (via email or forum), maybe even donate a few clams! http://mpxplay.sourceforge.net/ http://www.georgpotthast.de/dossound/index.htm http://www.multimediaware.com/qv/ Other than all of that, don't get your hopes up. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Getting mpxplay and any CD player to work
Also, the cable is needed only if the player uses the CD-player audio capabilities. MPXPLAY does not, it reads and processes audio tracks himself instead. You will need to fiddle with your mpxplay.ini file for sure. But as for a 'CD Player that works with FreeDOS', I'd say that pretty much any player should work. Have you tried any yet, beside mpxplay? Mateusz On 02/06/2015 22:42, John Hupp wrote: > On 6/2/2015 4:16 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: >> On 6/2/2015 12:16 PM, John Hupp wrote: >>> Are there tips/tricks to get mpxplay to work? What about a CD player >>> that's known to work with FD 1.1? >>> >>> I'm using a default FD 1.1 setup and selecting the first menu item at boot. >>> >> Just to cover all the bases, and probably unrelated to the direct >> software problems, you need to have a cable connecting your CD drive >> directly to your sound card in order to play audio DVDs. That's however >> not necessary to play MP3 files (which are just data files)... >> >> http://superuser.com/questions/566611/sound-output-connector-on-cd-rom-drive >> >> Ralf > > Hah! I did indeed forget to reconnect the cable during the various trials. > > But as you also note, it is unrelated to the software problems. I still > get nothing with the cable connected. > -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Getting mpxplay and any CD player to work
On 6/2/2015 1:42 PM, John Hupp wrote: > > Hah! I did indeed forget to reconnect the cable during the various trials. > > But as you also note, it is unrelated to the software problems. I still > get nothing with the cable connected. I just thought to mention it for those case you mentioned that "nothing" happend. It would just be that you wouldn't hear anything... ;-) Ralf --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] localcfg - a custom 'COUNTRY.SYS' configuration tool
Hi all, I was setting up my old 486 last weekend, and I had some hard time getting all the 'COUNTRY.SYS' preferences right. I mean, who on earth thought that providing pre-compiled sets of preferences is better than simply asking the user to set each preference himself? I might have an odd taste, but what I like is not present in COUNTRY.SYS, there's always at least one setting that bothers me. This motivated me to create a new tool, that I called localcfg. This tool provides a neat way of telling what YOU would like your DOS to look like, setting all the settings below independently from each other: - decimal separator - thousands separator - currency - time/date format - ... How does it work? You provide localcfg with all the preferences you like, and localcfg generates a custom COUNTRY.SYS-compatible file tailored for you. Then, it's only a matter of including it from within your CONFIG.SYS via the usual COUNTRY=xyz directive. localcfg can be downloaded here: http://localcfg.sourceforge.net or from ibiblio: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.1/repos/util/localcfg.zip or directly installed using FDNPKG: fdnpkg install localcfg cheers, Mateusz -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Getting mpxplay and any CD player to work
On 6/2/2015 4:16 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: > On 6/2/2015 12:16 PM, John Hupp wrote: >> Are there tips/tricks to get mpxplay to work? What about a CD player >> that's known to work with FD 1.1? >> >> I'm using a default FD 1.1 setup and selecting the first menu item at boot. >> > Just to cover all the bases, and probably unrelated to the direct > software problems, you need to have a cable connecting your CD drive > directly to your sound card in order to play audio DVDs. That's however > not necessary to play MP3 files (which are just data files)... > > http://superuser.com/questions/566611/sound-output-connector-on-cd-rom-drive > > Ralf Hah! I did indeed forget to reconnect the cable during the various trials. But as you also note, it is unrelated to the software problems. I still get nothing with the cable connected. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Getting mpxplay and any CD player to work
On 6/2/2015 12:16 PM, John Hupp wrote: > Are there tips/tricks to get mpxplay to work? What about a CD player > that's known to work with FD 1.1? > > I'm using a default FD 1.1 setup and selecting the first menu item at boot. > Just to cover all the bases, and probably unrelated to the direct software problems, you need to have a cable connecting your CD drive directly to your sound card in order to play audio DVDs. That's however not necessary to play MP3 files (which are just data files)... http://superuser.com/questions/566611/sound-output-connector-on-cd-rom-drive Ralf --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Getting mpxplay and any CD player to work
I have sound working now with a Media Vision Jazz16 card (aka Pro Sonic 16, an ISA PNP card) and DOOM, setting up the game to use the card's SoundBlaster emulation feature. The Jazz directory also has a playfile.exe utility and a few test WAV's, and these work. But so far I have gotten nowhere with playing mp3's or CD's. I'm starting with some apps that worked for me under FreeDOS 0.9 and/or 1.0. Mpxplay just hangs the system immediately, before anything appears onscreen. I downloaded the MPXP160D.ZIP version. Likewise I have not gotten any audio CD player to work. I tried ACP and CD-V (v19) so far. ACP's screen appears with a track list, but hitting enter to to start Playing the first track does nothing. CD-V simply generates an "Invalid media!" error. (I could add that the CD setup is fine for data CD's.) Are there tips/tricks to get mpxplay to work? What about a CD player that's known to work with FD 1.1? I'm using a default FD 1.1 setup and selecting the first menu item at boot. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Format floppy (format a: /u) quirk or bug?
On an unconditional format I always command: Format A: /F:1440 /U - but I still get the error way too often. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Don Flowers wrote: > I have gotten that critical error so often that I have abandoned FreeDOS > format. It happens most often on previously unformatted diskettes or on > 720kb diskettes. > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:55 AM, John Hupp wrote: > >> In the thread "Drivers or tips for 3 ISA sound cards?" I just reported >> solving a problem with a driver installer that froze when it arrived at >> the step where it analyzes the hardware configuration. It turned out >> that it was choking on the fact that D: and E: partitions existed but >> were not yet formatted. The installer worked fine once I formatted the >> partitions. >> >> I then wondered if that same circumstance played into another quirk I >> had observed. I had been unable to make this work on this machine: >> > format a: /u >> >> That always produced an error. My notes are a bit scattered, and I'm >> not 100% sure that this is the error connected to that command, but I >> think it was: >> >> Critical error during DOS disk access >> DOS driver error (hex): 01 >> Description: unknown unit for driver >> Program terminated >> [Error 129] >> >> But after formatting the two partitions, "format a: /u" seems to work >> fine. >> >> This was not a fully controlled test, and I'd like to have the >> opportunity/time to test it more definitively, but I'm reporting this to >> see if anyone else can confirm or deny the behavior. This is a default >> FreeDOS 1.1 installation on a Pentium 150, 64MB configuration. >> >> >> -- >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> > > -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Format floppy (format a: /u) quirk or bug?
I have gotten that critical error so often that I have abandoned FreeDOS format. It happens most often on previously unformatted diskettes or on 720kb diskettes. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:55 AM, John Hupp wrote: > In the thread "Drivers or tips for 3 ISA sound cards?" I just reported > solving a problem with a driver installer that froze when it arrived at > the step where it analyzes the hardware configuration. It turned out > that it was choking on the fact that D: and E: partitions existed but > were not yet formatted. The installer worked fine once I formatted the > partitions. > > I then wondered if that same circumstance played into another quirk I > had observed. I had been unable to make this work on this machine: > > format a: /u > > That always produced an error. My notes are a bit scattered, and I'm > not 100% sure that this is the error connected to that command, but I > think it was: > > Critical error during DOS disk access > DOS driver error (hex): 01 > Description: unknown unit for driver > Program terminated > [Error 129] > > But after formatting the two partitions, "format a: /u" seems to work fine. > > This was not a fully controlled test, and I'd like to have the > opportunity/time to test it more definitively, but I'm reporting this to > see if anyone else can confirm or deny the behavior. This is a default > FreeDOS 1.1 installation on a Pentium 150, 64MB configuration. > > > -- > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Format floppy (format a: /u) quirk or bug?
In the thread "Drivers or tips for 3 ISA sound cards?" I just reported solving a problem with a driver installer that froze when it arrived at the step where it analyzes the hardware configuration. It turned out that it was choking on the fact that D: and E: partitions existed but were not yet formatted. The installer worked fine once I formatted the partitions. I then wondered if that same circumstance played into another quirk I had observed. I had been unable to make this work on this machine: > format a: /u That always produced an error. My notes are a bit scattered, and I'm not 100% sure that this is the error connected to that command, but I think it was: Critical error during DOS disk access DOS driver error (hex): 01 Description: unknown unit for driver Program terminated [Error 129] But after formatting the two partitions, "format a: /u" seems to work fine. This was not a fully controlled test, and I'd like to have the opportunity/time to test it more definitively, but I'm reporting this to see if anyone else can confirm or deny the behavior. This is a default FreeDOS 1.1 installation on a Pentium 150, 64MB configuration. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Drivers or tips for 3 ISA sound cards?
On 5/30/2015 4:29 PM, John Hupp wrote: I have 3 old ISA sound cards that I was trying to get working in an old Pentium 150 machine with a default FD 1.1 installation. But so far no success. I list the card, a driver link, and my brief note for each. Perhaps one of you will have a known-good driver or a tip/trick for any of these: Aztech Sound Galaxy Nova 16 (FCC ID i38-MMSN811 -- OEM'd for Packard Bell) ftp://ftp.aztech.com/support/DOWNLOAD/sg/index.txt Turns out that it tests for Windows, and I haven't tried to fool it or hack it yet. Media Vision Pro Sonic 16 (Jazz 16 chipset) http://www.vogonsdrivers.com/getfile.php?fileid=418 This is indeed for pure DOS, but the installer hangs at the step where it analyzes the hardware resources. Ensoniq Soundscape PnP Wavetable Sound Card (Gateway P/N SNDCRD006ABWW) ftp://ftp.gateway.com/pub/hardware_support/drivers/win_95/sound/enwiz95.exe This requires Windows but will also set up for DOS at the same time. I temporarily installed a W98 drive on this same machine, had sound working on it, then copied what seemed to be all the required pieces into the FreeDOS installation. The driver now initializes without error at boot, but so far I have not gotten any sound out of it with mpxplay or ACP CD player (though both act as if they are playing something). I have not yet tried a game or any other app. One piece of good news: I got the Media Vision driver working. It turns out that the installer wanted to look, not just at the C: drive where FreeDOS is, but at the D: and E: partitions which had not yet been formatted. Once I formatted those, the installer worked as expected. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user