Re: [Freedos-user] Zip vs Pkzip

2015-06-02 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On Jun 2, 2015 8:53 PM, "Don Flowers"  wrote:
>
> I've recently become aware of some incompatibility between
> our FreeDOS unzip, Linux unzip and the legacy Pkunzip
> versions 2.04 and 2.50. I download hundreds of SIMTEL/BBS
> and other vintage files a month and I know that statistically
> a percentage of those will be incomplete or have CRC errors.

What Simtel mirror are you using? Have you tried a different site?

> But files that I know are complete are not being uncompressed
> properly. This almost always shows up in a blank README file.

This could also be a connection error on your end, whether faulty hardware
or software.

> I typically download and unzip with linux but when I noticed
> this anomaly I switched to FreeDOS unzip and noticed some
> improvement, but when I switched to pkunzip the number
> of blank files has dropped dramatically.  Has anyone else
> noticed this?

Which Info-Zip? 5.52 or 6.00? DJGPP (32-bit) or 16-bit? LFNs or SFNs?

Keep in mind that there are various other unzipping tools (e.g. DJTAR or
Doszip or p7zip).

I've personally not seen any errors in recent memory, and (as Louis already
suggested) I often run "unzip -t".
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Re: [Freedos-user] Zip vs Pkzip

2015-06-02 Thread Louis Santillan
With Info-Zip (FreeDOS, djgpp, Linux) and pkzip, you can always the
test the file with "-t" (or "-test") command.  Which specific version
of Info-Zip have you been using?  A specific Info-Zip version and a
specific zip file to test against would go a long way to helping you.

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 6:52 PM, Don Flowers  wrote:
> I've recently become aware of some incompatibility between our FreeDOS
> unzip, Linux unzip and the legacy Pkunzip versions 2.04 and 2.50. I download
> hundreds of SIMTEL/BBS and other vintage files a month and I know that
> statistically a percentage of those will be incomplete or have CRC errors.
> But files that I know are complete are not being uncompressed properly. This
> almost always shows up in a blank README file. I typically download and
> unzip with linux but when I noticed this anomaly I switched to FreeDOS unzip
> and noticed some improvement, but when I switched to pkunzip the number of
> blank files has dropped dramatically.  Has anyone else noticed this?
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting mpxplay and any CD player to work

2015-06-02 Thread John Hupp
That machine is not running at the moment (and it's late here), but from 
memory: A220 D1 I5 H3 T4.

In connection with that, it's perhaps worth noting afresh that DOOM 
sound works when set to use Sound Blaster.

On 6/2/2015 7:31 PM, Louis Santillan wrote:
> What's your BLASTER setting from autoexec.bat?
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 4:20 PM, John Hupp  wrote:
>> I saw little in mpxplay.ini that seemed like it was capable of
>> immediately hanging the system.  I commented out UseLFN to no effect.  I
>> also changed SoundCardName from AUTO to S16, and mpxplay reported that
>> it could not initialize the card or a message to that effect.  Then I
>> changed that to SBP and it hung as before.
>>
>> On 6/2/2015 4:59 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote:
>>> Also, the cable is needed only if the player uses the CD-player audio
>>> capabilities. MPXPLAY does not, it reads and processes audio tracks
>>> himself instead.
>>>
>>> You will need to fiddle with your mpxplay.ini file for sure. But as for
>>> a 'CD Player that works with FreeDOS', I'd say that pretty much any
>>> player should work. Have you tried any yet, beside mpxplay?
>>>
>>> Mateusz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 02/06/2015 22:42, John Hupp wrote:
 On 6/2/2015 4:16 PM, Ralf Quint wrote:
> On 6/2/2015 12:16 PM, John Hupp wrote:
>> Are there tips/tricks to get mpxplay to work?  What about a CD player
>> that's known to work with FD 1.1?
>>
>> I'm using a default FD 1.1 setup and selecting the first menu item at 
>> boot.
>>
> Just to cover all the bases, and probably unrelated to the direct
> software problems, you need to have a cable connecting your CD drive
> directly to your sound card in order to play audio DVDs. That's however
> not necessary to play MP3 files (which are just data files)...
>
> http://superuser.com/questions/566611/sound-output-connector-on-cd-rom-drive
>
> Ralf
 Hah!  I did indeed forget to reconnect the cable during the various trials.

 But as you also note, it is unrelated to the software problems.  I still
 get nothing with the cable connected.

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[Freedos-user] Zip vs Pkzip

2015-06-02 Thread Don Flowers
I've recently become aware of some incompatibility between our FreeDOS
unzip, Linux unzip and the legacy Pkunzip versions 2.04 and 2.50. I
download hundreds of SIMTEL/BBS and other vintage files a month and I know
that statistically a percentage of those will be incomplete or have CRC
errors. But files that I know are complete are not being uncompressed
properly. This almost always shows up in a blank README file. I typically
download and unzip with linux but when I noticed this anomaly I switched to
FreeDOS unzip and noticed some improvement, but when I switched to pkunzip
the number of blank files has dropped dramatically.  Has anyone else
noticed this?
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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting mpxplay and any CD player to work

2015-06-02 Thread Louis Santillan
What's your BLASTER setting from autoexec.bat?

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 4:20 PM, John Hupp  wrote:
> I saw little in mpxplay.ini that seemed like it was capable of
> immediately hanging the system.  I commented out UseLFN to no effect.  I
> also changed SoundCardName from AUTO to S16, and mpxplay reported that
> it could not initialize the card or a message to that effect.  Then I
> changed that to SBP and it hung as before.
>
> On 6/2/2015 4:59 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote:
>> Also, the cable is needed only if the player uses the CD-player audio
>> capabilities. MPXPLAY does not, it reads and processes audio tracks
>> himself instead.
>>
>> You will need to fiddle with your mpxplay.ini file for sure. But as for
>> a 'CD Player that works with FreeDOS', I'd say that pretty much any
>> player should work. Have you tried any yet, beside mpxplay?
>>
>> Mateusz
>>
>>
>>
>> On 02/06/2015 22:42, John Hupp wrote:
>>> On 6/2/2015 4:16 PM, Ralf Quint wrote:
 On 6/2/2015 12:16 PM, John Hupp wrote:
> Are there tips/tricks to get mpxplay to work?  What about a CD player
> that's known to work with FD 1.1?
>
> I'm using a default FD 1.1 setup and selecting the first menu item at 
> boot.
>
 Just to cover all the bases, and probably unrelated to the direct
 software problems, you need to have a cable connecting your CD drive
 directly to your sound card in order to play audio DVDs. That's however
 not necessary to play MP3 files (which are just data files)...

 http://superuser.com/questions/566611/sound-output-connector-on-cd-rom-drive

 Ralf
>>> Hah!  I did indeed forget to reconnect the cable during the various trials.
>>>
>>> But as you also note, it is unrelated to the software problems.  I still
>>> get nothing with the cable connected.
>>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting mpxplay and any CD player to work

2015-06-02 Thread John Hupp
I saw little in mpxplay.ini that seemed like it was capable of 
immediately hanging the system.  I commented out UseLFN to no effect.  I 
also changed SoundCardName from AUTO to S16, and mpxplay reported that 
it could not initialize the card or a message to that effect.  Then I 
changed that to SBP and it hung as before.

On 6/2/2015 4:59 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote:
> Also, the cable is needed only if the player uses the CD-player audio
> capabilities. MPXPLAY does not, it reads and processes audio tracks
> himself instead.
>
> You will need to fiddle with your mpxplay.ini file for sure. But as for
> a 'CD Player that works with FreeDOS', I'd say that pretty much any
> player should work. Have you tried any yet, beside mpxplay?
>
> Mateusz
>
>
>
> On 02/06/2015 22:42, John Hupp wrote:
>> On 6/2/2015 4:16 PM, Ralf Quint wrote:
>>> On 6/2/2015 12:16 PM, John Hupp wrote:
 Are there tips/tricks to get mpxplay to work?  What about a CD player
 that's known to work with FD 1.1?

 I'm using a default FD 1.1 setup and selecting the first menu item at boot.

>>> Just to cover all the bases, and probably unrelated to the direct
>>> software problems, you need to have a cable connecting your CD drive
>>> directly to your sound card in order to play audio DVDs. That's however
>>> not necessary to play MP3 files (which are just data files)...
>>>
>>> http://superuser.com/questions/566611/sound-output-connector-on-cd-rom-drive
>>>
>>> Ralf
>> Hah!  I did indeed forget to reconnect the cable during the various trials.
>>
>> But as you also note, it is unrelated to the software problems.  I still
>> get nothing with the cable connected.
>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting mpxplay and any CD player to work

2015-06-02 Thread John Hupp
Thanks.  I'll have a closer look at mpxplay.ini.  But no, though I have 
tried several CD players, I have not tried any other sound file players 
except the sound card's playfile.exe utility that works with WAV's.

On 6/2/2015 4:59 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote:
> Also, the cable is needed only if the player uses the CD-player audio
> capabilities. MPXPLAY does not, it reads and processes audio tracks
> himself instead.
>
> You will need to fiddle with your mpxplay.ini file for sure. But as for
> a 'CD Player that works with FreeDOS', I'd say that pretty much any
> player should work. Have you tried any yet, beside mpxplay?
>
> Mateusz
>
>
>
> On 02/06/2015 22:42, John Hupp wrote:
>> On 6/2/2015 4:16 PM, Ralf Quint wrote:
>>> On 6/2/2015 12:16 PM, John Hupp wrote:
 Are there tips/tricks to get mpxplay to work?  What about a CD player
 that's known to work with FD 1.1?

 I'm using a default FD 1.1 setup and selecting the first menu item at boot.

>>> Just to cover all the bases, and probably unrelated to the direct
>>> software problems, you need to have a cable connecting your CD drive
>>> directly to your sound card in order to play audio DVDs. That's however
>>> not necessary to play MP3 files (which are just data files)...
>>>
>>> http://superuser.com/questions/566611/sound-output-connector-on-cd-rom-drive
>>>
>>> Ralf
>> Hah!  I did indeed forget to reconnect the cable during the various trials.
>>
>> But as you also note, it is unrelated to the software problems.  I still
>> get nothing with the cable connected.
>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Drivers or tips for 3 ISA sound cards?

2015-06-02 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Dale E Sterner  wrote:
>
> Have the same problem with a DELL laptop. Tried a few dozen drivers
> and none worked. They all require Windows be present. Unless you can fool
> it into thinking Windows is there; I think its hopeless. I gave up.

Somebody would have to contact the soundcard vendors and pester them
to release their old drivers in DOS-friendly format. Obviously
requiring Windows just to install is a bad move. Also, being able to
freely redistribute such drivers publicly would also be a nice touch.
Granted, I don't expect any of that will ever happen, but having to
blindly search random third-party websites just makes things even more
difficult.

I did find one (third-party) site that claimed to have SB Live!
drivers for my old P4 (Dell), but that too required Windows (and no,
HX didn't work). Even the *.CAB weren't accessible to p7zip, so I
dunno!

Generally speaking, you have to find a "modern" OS (FreeBSD, Linux,
etc) that supports your hardware, and make sure it actually works.
Then and only then can you find some genius to "maybe" port it back to
DOS. At least with sources there is minimal hope. I really don't think
binary driver compatibility with other OSes is feasible at all, but I
could be wrong. (It's been done before but isn't very popular,
apparently.)

What stuff are you trying to run anyways? Games? Audio CD? MP3? WAV?
MOD? MID? AVI?

Although I usually don't do much with sound, thus am horribly unaware
of most stuff, I did test a bunch of things on my old P4. Most of it
didn't work (e.g. Cubic, Judas, WSS, PacePlayer). Almost the only
thing that did work was PC speaker. At least some rare tools (KPC,
MP3PC) support that:

http://www.advsys.net/ken/utils.htm

Even Mpxplay didn't work. But Quickview (shareware) surprisingly
worked fine (with its EMU10K1 driver). Then and only then (after
successfully playing a file) did Mpxplay start working. (So it's not
initializing something properly.) I forgot to test DOSSOUND, but its
website doesn't mention my soundcard anyways.

Long story short: there are very few developers that are willing and
active in such a field. You would have to contact them directly (via
email or forum), maybe even donate a few clams!

http://mpxplay.sourceforge.net/
http://www.georgpotthast.de/dossound/index.htm
http://www.multimediaware.com/qv/

Other than all of that, don't get your hopes up.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting mpxplay and any CD player to work

2015-06-02 Thread Mateusz Viste
Also, the cable is needed only if the player uses the CD-player audio 
capabilities. MPXPLAY does not, it reads and processes audio tracks 
himself instead.

You will need to fiddle with your mpxplay.ini file for sure. But as for 
a 'CD Player that works with FreeDOS', I'd say that pretty much any 
player should work. Have you tried any yet, beside mpxplay?

Mateusz



On 02/06/2015 22:42, John Hupp wrote:
> On 6/2/2015 4:16 PM, Ralf Quint wrote:
>> On 6/2/2015 12:16 PM, John Hupp wrote:
>>> Are there tips/tricks to get mpxplay to work?  What about a CD player
>>> that's known to work with FD 1.1?
>>>
>>> I'm using a default FD 1.1 setup and selecting the first menu item at boot.
>>>
>> Just to cover all the bases, and probably unrelated to the direct
>> software problems, you need to have a cable connecting your CD drive
>> directly to your sound card in order to play audio DVDs. That's however
>> not necessary to play MP3 files (which are just data files)...
>>
>> http://superuser.com/questions/566611/sound-output-connector-on-cd-rom-drive
>>
>> Ralf
>
> Hah!  I did indeed forget to reconnect the cable during the various trials.
>
> But as you also note, it is unrelated to the software problems.  I still
> get nothing with the cable connected.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting mpxplay and any CD player to work

2015-06-02 Thread Ralf Quint
On 6/2/2015 1:42 PM, John Hupp wrote:
>
> Hah!  I did indeed forget to reconnect the cable during the various trials.
>
> But as you also note, it is unrelated to the software problems.  I still
> get nothing with the cable connected.
I just thought to mention it for those case you mentioned that "nothing" 
happend. It would just be that you wouldn't hear anything... ;-)

Ralf

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[Freedos-user] localcfg - a custom 'COUNTRY.SYS' configuration tool

2015-06-02 Thread Mateusz Viste
Hi all,

I was setting up my old 486 last weekend, and I had some hard time 
getting all the 'COUNTRY.SYS' preferences right. I mean, who on earth 
thought that providing pre-compiled sets of preferences is better than 
simply asking the user to set each preference himself?

I might have an odd taste, but what I like is not present in 
COUNTRY.SYS, there's always at least one setting that bothers me.

This motivated me to create a new tool, that I called localcfg. This 
tool provides a neat way of telling what YOU would like your DOS to look 
like, setting all the settings below independently from each other:
  - decimal separator
  - thousands separator
  - currency
  - time/date format
  - ...

How does it work? You provide localcfg with all the preferences you 
like, and localcfg generates a custom COUNTRY.SYS-compatible file 
tailored for you. Then, it's only a matter of including it from within 
your CONFIG.SYS via the usual COUNTRY=xyz directive.

localcfg can be downloaded here:
http://localcfg.sourceforge.net

or from ibiblio:
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.1/repos/util/localcfg.zip

or directly installed using FDNPKG:
fdnpkg install localcfg

cheers,
Mateusz


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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting mpxplay and any CD player to work

2015-06-02 Thread John Hupp
On 6/2/2015 4:16 PM, Ralf Quint wrote:
> On 6/2/2015 12:16 PM, John Hupp wrote:
>> Are there tips/tricks to get mpxplay to work?  What about a CD player
>> that's known to work with FD 1.1?
>>
>> I'm using a default FD 1.1 setup and selecting the first menu item at boot.
>>
> Just to cover all the bases, and probably unrelated to the direct
> software problems, you need to have a cable connecting your CD drive
> directly to your sound card in order to play audio DVDs. That's however
> not necessary to play MP3 files (which are just data files)...
>
> http://superuser.com/questions/566611/sound-output-connector-on-cd-rom-drive
>
> Ralf

Hah!  I did indeed forget to reconnect the cable during the various trials.

But as you also note, it is unrelated to the software problems.  I still 
get nothing with the cable connected.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Getting mpxplay and any CD player to work

2015-06-02 Thread Ralf Quint
On 6/2/2015 12:16 PM, John Hupp wrote:
> Are there tips/tricks to get mpxplay to work?  What about a CD player
> that's known to work with FD 1.1?
>
> I'm using a default FD 1.1 setup and selecting the first menu item at boot.
>
Just to cover all the bases, and probably unrelated to the direct 
software problems, you need to have a cable connecting your CD drive 
directly to your sound card in order to play audio DVDs. That's however 
not necessary to play MP3 files (which are just data files)...

http://superuser.com/questions/566611/sound-output-connector-on-cd-rom-drive

Ralf

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[Freedos-user] Getting mpxplay and any CD player to work

2015-06-02 Thread John Hupp
I have sound working now with a Media Vision Jazz16 card (aka Pro Sonic 
16, an ISA PNP card) and DOOM, setting up the game to use the card's 
SoundBlaster emulation feature.

The Jazz directory also has a playfile.exe utility and a few test WAV's, 
and these work.

But so far I have gotten nowhere with playing mp3's or CD's.  I'm 
starting with some apps that worked for me under FreeDOS 0.9 and/or 1.0.

Mpxplay just hangs the system immediately, before anything appears 
onscreen.  I downloaded the MPXP160D.ZIP version.

Likewise I have not gotten any audio CD player to work.  I tried ACP and 
CD-V (v19) so far.  ACP's screen appears with a track list, but hitting 
enter to to start Playing the first track does nothing. CD-V simply 
generates an "Invalid media!" error.  (I could add that the CD setup is 
fine for data CD's.)

Are there tips/tricks to get mpxplay to work?  What about a CD player 
that's known to work with FD 1.1?

I'm using a default FD 1.1 setup and selecting the first menu item at boot.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Format floppy (format a: /u) quirk or bug?

2015-06-02 Thread Don Flowers
On an unconditional format I always command: Format A: /F:1440 /U - but I
still get the error way too often.

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Don Flowers  wrote:

> I have gotten that critical error so often that I have abandoned FreeDOS
> format. It happens most often on previously unformatted diskettes or on
> 720kb diskettes.
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:55 AM, John Hupp  wrote:
>
>> In the thread "Drivers or tips for 3 ISA sound cards?" I just reported
>> solving a problem with a driver installer that froze when it arrived at
>> the step where it analyzes the hardware configuration.  It turned out
>> that it was choking on the fact that D: and E: partitions existed but
>> were not yet formatted.  The installer worked fine once I formatted the
>> partitions.
>>
>> I then wondered if that same circumstance played into another quirk I
>> had observed.  I had been unable to make this work on this machine:
>>  > format a: /u
>>
>> That always produced an error.  My notes are a bit scattered, and I'm
>> not 100% sure that this is the error connected to that command, but I
>> think it was:
>>
>> Critical error during DOS disk access
>> DOS driver error (hex): 01
>>  Description: unknown unit for driver
>> Program terminated
>> [Error 129]
>>
>> But after formatting the two partitions, "format a: /u" seems to work
>> fine.
>>
>> This was not a fully controlled test, and I'd like to have the
>> opportunity/time to test it more definitively, but I'm reporting this to
>> see if anyone else can confirm or deny the behavior.  This is a default
>> FreeDOS 1.1 installation on a Pentium 150, 64MB configuration.
>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Format floppy (format a: /u) quirk or bug?

2015-06-02 Thread Don Flowers
I have gotten that critical error so often that I have abandoned FreeDOS
format. It happens most often on previously unformatted diskettes or on
720kb diskettes.

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:55 AM, John Hupp  wrote:

> In the thread "Drivers or tips for 3 ISA sound cards?" I just reported
> solving a problem with a driver installer that froze when it arrived at
> the step where it analyzes the hardware configuration.  It turned out
> that it was choking on the fact that D: and E: partitions existed but
> were not yet formatted.  The installer worked fine once I formatted the
> partitions.
>
> I then wondered if that same circumstance played into another quirk I
> had observed.  I had been unable to make this work on this machine:
>  > format a: /u
>
> That always produced an error.  My notes are a bit scattered, and I'm
> not 100% sure that this is the error connected to that command, but I
> think it was:
>
> Critical error during DOS disk access
> DOS driver error (hex): 01
>  Description: unknown unit for driver
> Program terminated
> [Error 129]
>
> But after formatting the two partitions, "format a: /u" seems to work fine.
>
> This was not a fully controlled test, and I'd like to have the
> opportunity/time to test it more definitively, but I'm reporting this to
> see if anyone else can confirm or deny the behavior.  This is a default
> FreeDOS 1.1 installation on a Pentium 150, 64MB configuration.
>
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[Freedos-user] Format floppy (format a: /u) quirk or bug?

2015-06-02 Thread John Hupp
In the thread "Drivers or tips for 3 ISA sound cards?" I just reported 
solving a problem with a driver installer that froze when it arrived at 
the step where it analyzes the hardware configuration.  It turned out 
that it was choking on the fact that D: and E: partitions existed but 
were not yet formatted.  The installer worked fine once I formatted the 
partitions.

I then wondered if that same circumstance played into another quirk I 
had observed.  I had been unable to make this work on this machine:
 > format a: /u

That always produced an error.  My notes are a bit scattered, and I'm 
not 100% sure that this is the error connected to that command, but I 
think it was:

Critical error during DOS disk access
DOS driver error (hex): 01
 Description: unknown unit for driver
Program terminated
[Error 129]

But after formatting the two partitions, "format a: /u" seems to work fine.

This was not a fully controlled test, and I'd like to have the 
opportunity/time to test it more definitively, but I'm reporting this to 
see if anyone else can confirm or deny the behavior.  This is a default 
FreeDOS 1.1 installation on a Pentium 150, 64MB configuration.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Drivers or tips for 3 ISA sound cards?

2015-06-02 Thread John Hupp

On 5/30/2015 4:29 PM, John Hupp wrote:
I have 3 old ISA sound cards that I was trying to get working in an 
old Pentium 150 machine with a default FD 1.1 installation. But so far 
no success.  I list the card, a driver link, and my brief note for 
each.  Perhaps one of you will have a known-good driver or a tip/trick 
for any of these:


Aztech Sound Galaxy Nova 16 (FCC ID i38-MMSN811 -- OEM'd for Packard Bell)

ftp://ftp.aztech.com/support/DOWNLOAD/sg/index.txt

Turns out that it tests for Windows, and I haven't tried to fool it or 
hack it yet.




Media Vision Pro Sonic 16 (Jazz 16 chipset)

http://www.vogonsdrivers.com/getfile.php?fileid=418

This is indeed for pure DOS, but the installer hangs at the step where 
it analyzes the hardware resources.




Ensoniq Soundscape PnP Wavetable Sound Card (Gateway P/N SNDCRD006ABWW)

ftp://ftp.gateway.com/pub/hardware_support/drivers/win_95/sound/enwiz95.exe

This requires Windows but will also set up for DOS at the same time.  
I temporarily installed a W98 drive on this same machine, had sound 
working on it, then copied what seemed to be all the required pieces 
into the FreeDOS installation.  The driver now initializes without 
error at boot, but so far I have not gotten any sound out of it with 
mpxplay or ACP CD player (though both act as if they are playing 
something).  I have not yet tried a game or any other app.


One piece of good news: I got the Media Vision driver working.  It turns 
out that the installer wanted to look, not just at the C: drive where 
FreeDOS is, but at the D: and E: partitions which had not yet been 
formatted.  Once I formatted those, the installer worked as expected.
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