Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]

2011-01-15 Thread Ulrich Hansen
Am 12.01.2011 23:48, schrieb Rugxulo:

 I do know that VirtualBox has some issues with DOS (e.g. no SB
 support), so normally I don't use DOS there. Not sure if they fixed
 some of them (EMM386 conflict) though one of the recent ones claims
 to. Probably unchecking VT-X in the config helps but is slower.

Yes, Virtualbox 3.2.6 did crash if an Expanded Memory Manager was 
loaded. I wrote a bug report about that last summer [1].

Today I had time to try FreeDOS with the new Virtualbox 4.0.0 and the 
bug is FIXED.

So this is good news! :-)

I just played around with the installation I did last summer and 
networking seems to work fine from within Virtualbox. At least ping 
and surfing with Arachne worked.

The packet driver needed for Virtualbox is pcntpk.com from the package 
amdpd.zip [2].

For file exchange with my host system (Ubuntu 10.04) I run the FTP 
server ftpsrv32 from the watt32 suite [3] in the Freedos guest and 
connect from my host with Filezilla. Of course you can also use 
MS-Client, but most times I am too lazy to do that.

The new ftpsrv app from mTCP works, but at least on my system seems to 
have problems with showing correct DOS paths. For instance it shows 
c:\ as c:/\. So f.i. creating new directories in filezilla doesn't 
work without manual correction.

regards
Uli


[1] http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/3365
[2] http://www.crynwr.com/drivers/amdpd.zip
[3] http://www.filegate.net/utiln/utilnet/wt32apps.zip

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Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]

2011-01-15 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 1/15/2011 10:23 AM, Ulrich Hansen wrote:
 The new ftpsrv app from mTCP works, but at least on my system seems to
 have problems with showing correct DOS paths. For instance it shows
 c:\ as c:/\. So f.i. creating new directories in filezilla doesn't
 work without manual correction.

 regards
 Uli

That's a Filezilla thing - Filezilla is too 'smart' to honor what my 
server is returning for the current working directory, and it's trying 
to fix the directory delimiters.

If you are in a sandbox it works fine.  If you are on a command line 
client it is fine too ..  it's just Filezilla.




Mike



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Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]

2011-01-15 Thread Ulrich Hansen
Am 15.01.2011 18:10, schrieb Michael B. Brutman:
 On 1/15/2011 10:23 AM, Ulrich Hansen wrote:
 The new ftpsrv app from mTCP works, but at least on my system seems to
 have problems with showing correct DOS paths. For instance it shows
 c:\ as c:/\. So f.i. creating new directories in filezilla doesn't
 work without manual correction.

 That's a Filezilla thing - Filezilla is too 'smart' to honor what my
 server is returning for the current working directory, and it's trying
 to fix the directory delimiters.

Unfortunately mTCP ftpsrv doesn't seem to work correctly with any 
graphical FTP clients I tried.

In Filezilla file uploads are answered with a Error 550 Bad path.

The FireFTP plugin for Firefox connects with the same error message:
550 /C:: Bad path
And when I try to upload a file I also get the 550 message.

gFTP didn't give me any directory listings at all.

Anyway, it is really great to have a new FTP-Server for DOS to 
experiment with. I already tried ftpsrv32, NOS/EZ-NOS, quikserv, 
Sockets ftpd and SwsSock ftpd and didn't really expect to see another 
one. :-) Thanks!

regards
Uli

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Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]

2011-01-15 Thread Michael B. Brutman

Once again, all of these clients are trying to be 'too clever' about the 
path names ...

Now that you have me thinking about it, a work around would be to just 
forget about drive letters and make it look like a normal, Unix 
hierarchical filesystem.  (This is the way the sandbox mode works.)  To 
change a drive letter one would have to do a 'site' type of command, or 
change to a pseudo-directory that actually changes the drive letter.

For now, file bug reports against the clients that are too smart for 
their own good.  None of the command line clients (including lftp) have 
this problem.



Regards,
Mike

On 1/15/2011 4:33 PM, Ulrich Hansen wrote:
 Am 15.01.2011 18:10, schrieb Michael B. Brutman:
 On 1/15/2011 10:23 AM, Ulrich Hansen wrote:
 The new ftpsrv app from mTCP works, but at least on my system seems to
 have problems with showing correct DOS paths. For instance it shows
 c:\ as c:/\. So f.i. creating new directories in filezilla doesn't
 work without manual correction.

 That's a Filezilla thing - Filezilla is too 'smart' to honor what my
 server is returning for the current working directory, and it's trying
 to fix the directory delimiters.

 Unfortunately mTCP ftpsrv doesn't seem to work correctly with any 
 graphical FTP clients I tried.

 In Filezilla file uploads are answered with a Error 550 Bad path.

 The FireFTP plugin for Firefox connects with the same error message:
 550 /C:: Bad path
 And when I try to upload a file I also get the 550 message.

 gFTP didn't give me any directory listings at all.

 Anyway, it is really great to have a new FTP-Server for DOS to 
 experiment with. I already tried ftpsrv32, NOS/EZ-NOS, quikserv, 
 Sockets ftpd and SwsSock ftpd and didn't really expect to see another 
 one. :-) Thanks!

 regards
 Uli





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Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]

2011-01-14 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again,

On 1/13/11, James Collins james.collin...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I am trying to install freedos with qemu, but I am coming across an error
 when I go to run the install?
 The error is saying not enough disk space very early on in the install?

 I have used fdisk to partition my drive at like a 100mb

A full install probably needs much more than that, but I don't know
exactly. For sure you can manually install a much smaller amount, but
I'm not sure how customizable the old installer is. (Jim Hall's
already been rewriting it lately.)

 Another error I have come across is if I try to format the drive it fails
 saying something like drive sectors not 1, 4 , 6, 16, 32 etc but 0.0 kb

 I don't know the exact error it returns with result 4. And I don't know if
 these are related

Blech, sounds like a stinkin' QEMU bug, not much we can do about that.
 :-/   What QEMU version are you testing? Hopefully latest (0.13.0,
apparently) works better, but newer ones sadly don't support fat:/
(which was quite convenient in oldie-but-goodie 0.9.0). Oh well, just
try VirtualBox or BOCHS if it doesn't work.

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Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]

2011-01-14 Thread Eric Auer

Hi!

 I have used fdisk to partition my drive at like a 100mb

 A full install probably needs much more than that...

http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Install#Known_problems

tells about this:

 XHARBOUR (a free CLIPPER clone, 8 MB) needs the OWATCOM
  package: That package needs at least 30 MB disk space.
  Other large packages are FPASCAL (free Pascal, 31 MB),
  KRAPTOR (11 MB), Image MAGICK (8 MB), free DOOM (21 MB),
  and VIM (consists of several packages, ca 20 MB). Without
  those packages, installing all other (more than 200) packages
  of the FULLCD needs less than 100 MB disk space.

  For sure you can manually install a much smaller amount, but
 I'm not sure how customizable the old installer is.

In the old installer, you can select all packages for
all categories manually, but of course if you want to
do that, you have to toggle lots of checkboxes. Default
is as far as I remember to install whole categories.

  (Jim Hall's already been rewriting it lately.)

The new installer is less interactive, I think. People
have 100s of MB free on every USB stick or SD card...

However, you are of course welcome to do a BASE install
and then use FDPKG to install a few selected non-BASE
packages manually later. Actually you can install most
of the packages simply by unzipping them with any unzip
tool into your dos directory (e.g. C:\FDOS or FREEDOS)
and you can download and copy them in any way you like.

 Another error I have come across is if I try to format the
  drive it fails saying something like drive sectors
  not 1, 4 , 6, 16, 32 etc but 0.0 kb

 I don't know the exact error it returns with result 4.
  And I don't know if these are related

Looking in the FreeDOS FORMAT source code, you may mean:

  FATAL: Cluster size not 0.5, 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32 or 64k but...

When you use FORMAT /D (debug mode) it will return error 59
which is more fine-grained than error 4, and show more info.

It is possible that you needed to reboot after fdisk and
before formatting. Another typical problem could be that
your drive is not a real sector based drive at all. Yet
at least in DOSEMU, FORMAT would notice that on time and
show a more useful error message than just about clusters.

If you try to FORMAT in a non-DOS operating system and the
target drive is not FAT but e.g. NTFS, similar confusion
could occur. If you can already access a drive, you should
not format it again anyway. In particular, if your DOS FAT
drive will be on a multi boot system, you can let existing
other operating systems format the drive to FAT in a safer
way and then just let DOS install to that prepared drive.

You should have a look at the FORMAT /D output if you want
to try using FORMAT again and want to find out what failed.
Then you can also report more details about the problem.

Good luck!

Eric :-)


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Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]

2011-01-14 Thread James Collins
I am using I GUI program of qemu and when I create my drive that I boot freedos 
from I have options for the hard disk

I have chosen qcow, my other options are no hard disk, new 10mb compressed disk 
image, new 100mb compressed disk image, new 4gb compressed disk image, new 4gb 
raw disk image(for windows), create other disk image, choose other disk image

And when I boot from fdfullcd.iso and run fdisk to create a partition I choose 
the max. 

But when I go to install I get an error on the second screen where there are 
files that can be checked or unchecked the error is:

ERROR! Not enough disk space for package.

I restart and don't install but choose to run freedos from the CDROM to run 
fdisk to try and figure out what is wrong? And it asks me if I want to use 
large disk support, I say yes.

I have an option under fdisk
5. Change current fixed disk drive

Which I think is my problem? When I choose 5. It says there are 2 fixed disk 
drives one has 100mb and 100mb free, but usage is 0%

The other one says 1mb nothing under free and 100% usage

Then underneath these it says c: 1
Which I don't know if the 1 refers to mb or fixed disk 1

But shouldn't 100mb be enough to install freedos? I have tried to install this 
in qemu GUI program several times. And when I initially run fdisk to partition 
the drive I use the max available?

Is it possible that my computer is trying to install to a fixed disk 2? I have 
tried to use option 5. Under fdisk to switch to fixed disk 1 which is like 
100mb,

I am stuck, all the tutorials I have read don't deal with this, so I know 
something isn't right but don't know how to fix it?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 14, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote:

 
 Hi!
 
 I have used fdisk to partition my drive at like a 100mb
 
 A full install probably needs much more than that...
 
 http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Install#Known_problems
 
 tells about this:
 
 XHARBOUR (a free CLIPPER clone, 8 MB) needs the OWATCOM
 package: That package needs at least 30 MB disk space.
 Other large packages are FPASCAL (free Pascal, 31 MB),
 KRAPTOR (11 MB), Image MAGICK (8 MB), free DOOM (21 MB),
 and VIM (consists of several packages, ca 20 MB). Without
 those packages, installing all other (more than 200) packages
 of the FULLCD needs less than 100 MB disk space.
 
 For sure you can manually install a much smaller amount, but
 I'm not sure how customizable the old installer is.
 
 In the old installer, you can select all packages for
 all categories manually, but of course if you want to
 do that, you have to toggle lots of checkboxes. Default
 is as far as I remember to install whole categories.
 
 (Jim Hall's already been rewriting it lately.)
 
 The new installer is less interactive, I think. People
 have 100s of MB free on every USB stick or SD card...
 
 However, you are of course welcome to do a BASE install
 and then use FDPKG to install a few selected non-BASE
 packages manually later. Actually you can install most
 of the packages simply by unzipping them with any unzip
 tool into your dos directory (e.g. C:\FDOS or FREEDOS)
 and you can download and copy them in any way you like.
 
 Another error I have come across is if I try to format the
 drive it fails saying something like drive sectors
 not 1, 4 , 6, 16, 32 etc but 0.0 kb
 
 I don't know the exact error it returns with result 4.
 And I don't know if these are related
 
 Looking in the FreeDOS FORMAT source code, you may mean:
 
 FATAL: Cluster size not 0.5, 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32 or 64k but...
 
 When you use FORMAT /D (debug mode) it will return error 59
 which is more fine-grained than error 4, and show more info.
 
 It is possible that you needed to reboot after fdisk and
 before formatting. Another typical problem could be that
 your drive is not a real sector based drive at all. Yet
 at least in DOSEMU, FORMAT would notice that on time and
 show a more useful error message than just about clusters.
 
 If you try to FORMAT in a non-DOS operating system and the
 target drive is not FAT but e.g. NTFS, similar confusion
 could occur. If you can already access a drive, you should
 not format it again anyway. In particular, if your DOS FAT
 drive will be on a multi boot system, you can let existing
 other operating systems format the drive to FAT in a safer
 way and then just let DOS install to that prepared drive.
 
 You should have a look at the FORMAT /D output if you want
 to try using FORMAT again and want to find out what failed.
 Then you can also report more details about the problem.
 
 Good luck!
 
 Eric :-)
 
 
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Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]

2011-01-14 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again,

On 1/14/11, James Collins james.collin...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I am using I GUI program of qemu and when I create my drive that I boot
 freedos from I have options for the hard disk

 I have chosen qcow,

Try creating a raw disk image instead of qcow and trying to work
with that. IIRC, that might help, but I could be wrong.

 But shouldn't 100mb be enough to install freedos? I have tried to install
 this in qemu GUI program several times. And when I initially run fdisk to
 partition the drive I use the max available?

As mentioned, 100 MB is more than enough for BASE, but to add all
the extras (VIM, FreeDoom, FPC), you need more. Don't forget that
FreeDOS' kernel and shell (and HIMEMX) can all fit on floppy.
Actually, since DOS is so lean and mean, you can fit a lot on a
floppy.  :-)  But I'm guessing you want more than just the raw basics.
 :-/

If none of this helps, try using either a newer QEMU (0.13.0 is
latest) or go back to 0.9.0, but unfortunately, all emulators have
bugs, so nothing's perfect.   :-/

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Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]

2011-01-13 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On 1/13/11, James Collins james.collin...@yahoo.com wrote:

 One of my goals is to set up dhcp, cause I didn't during the install. I
 would like to fool around with lynx within in freedos.

It might be easier to use a native Mac compile of Lynx. I know that's
probably not what you want to hear, but it's true.

 I have some older software like word perfect, some games etc. That I wanted
 to install.

Games are best in DOSBox, esp. when you need SoundBlaster support,
which modern soundcards don't support natively anymore. Word Perfect
probably runs there too, but again, it's probably easier to just use a
native build of something else (AbiWord, OpenOffice, KOffice).   :-/

 I really want to be able to type a: at a dos prompt and access my floppy
 drive, right now I can't burn a cd because my cd/DVD drive isn't working, I
 am going to fix it.

You can (try to) boot from USB, probably, but that still won't help if
you don't have some kind of BIOS. See
http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ .

 I know that I got dosbox to recognize my floppy drive?

DOSBox should recognize it since it just uses the host OS to access everything.

 I want to set up mTCP
 which I got to set up dhcp, and I have a folder on my Mac but don't know how
 to get it into freedos?

Mac OS X Terminal - man mount ... You should be able to mount a FAT
partition from within Mac OS X (or FreeBSD). Also try man mtools
just in case it's installed.

 I have also copied it to a floppy, but freedos isn't recognizing my floppy 
 drive?

Did you install BootCamp? Can you?

 I guess one thing I would like to be able to do is put software into freedos
 from my Mac. I have used disk utility to partition my hard drive and I set
 up some fat space. I was originally gonna use it for freedos but then I got
 virtualbox.

BOCHS, QEMU, and VirtualBox have all been known to emulate FreeDOS to
a reasonable degree (though you need some kind of floppy disk or CD
image). It's probably your best bet while on a Mac outside of just
trying Linux + DOSEMU.

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Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]

2011-01-13 Thread James Collins
I am trying to install freedos with qemu, but I am coming across an error when 
I go to run the install?
The error is saying not enough disk space very early on in the install?

I have used fdisk to partition my drive at like a 100mb

Another error I have come across is if I try to format the drive it fails 
saying something like drive sectors not 1, 4 , 6, 16, 32 etc but 0.0 kb

I don't know the exact error it returns with result 4. And I don't know if 
these are related

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 13, 2011, at 3:01 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 On 1/13/11, James Collins james.collin...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 One of my goals is to set up dhcp, cause I didn't during the install. I
 would like to fool around with lynx within in freedos.
 
 It might be easier to use a native Mac compile of Lynx. I know that's
 probably not what you want to hear, but it's true.
 
 I have some older software like word perfect, some games etc. That I wanted
 to install.
 
 Games are best in DOSBox, esp. when you need SoundBlaster support,
 which modern soundcards don't support natively anymore. Word Perfect
 probably runs there too, but again, it's probably easier to just use a
 native build of something else (AbiWord, OpenOffice, KOffice).   :-/
 
 I really want to be able to type a: at a dos prompt and access my floppy
 drive, right now I can't burn a cd because my cd/DVD drive isn't working, I
 am going to fix it.
 
 You can (try to) boot from USB, probably, but that still won't help if
 you don't have some kind of BIOS. See
 http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ .
 
 I know that I got dosbox to recognize my floppy drive?
 
 DOSBox should recognize it since it just uses the host OS to access 
 everything.
 
 I want to set up mTCP
 which I got to set up dhcp, and I have a folder on my Mac but don't know how
 to get it into freedos?
 
 Mac OS X Terminal - man mount ... You should be able to mount a FAT
 partition from within Mac OS X (or FreeBSD). Also try man mtools
 just in case it's installed.
 
 I have also copied it to a floppy, but freedos isn't recognizing my floppy 
 drive?
 
 Did you install BootCamp? Can you?
 
 I guess one thing I would like to be able to do is put software into freedos
 from my Mac. I have used disk utility to partition my hard drive and I set
 up some fat space. I was originally gonna use it for freedos but then I got
 virtualbox.
 
 BOCHS, QEMU, and VirtualBox have all been known to emulate FreeDOS to
 a reasonable degree (though you need some kind of floppy disk or CD
 image). It's probably your best bet while on a Mac outside of just
 trying Linux + DOSEMU.
 
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Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]

2011-01-12 Thread Eric Auer

Hi James, Uli, Rugxulo, happy new year everybody :-)

do I understand correctly that you want to copy from
MacOS to FreeDOS but both run on the same hardware,
DOS running in VirtualBox? As Mac understands FAT,
it might help to copy the files to any FAT drive, eg
USB stick, USB harddisk or floppy, and then connect
that to your VirtualBox (probably configuration thing
which needs restarting the DOS)...

 I have a folder on my desktop on my MacBook pro that I
 want to copy into freedos. I copied the folder to an
 external USB floppy on my laptop. But freedos isn't
 recognizing it. I was thinking that this might be a
 virtualbox issue rather than freedos.

Note that for normal PC BIOSes you often get USB drives
recognized by having them connected before DOS boots...
In that case, DOS does not need a driver as the BIOS is
doing the work. In virtualbox, support might differ and
if you try using DOS USB drivers there, virtualbox will
have to simulate USB hardware/chipset connected to your
actual USB drive, which might complicate things.

There was some page by Uli Hansen about the use of
various network stuff with DOS, MS network shares
via MSCLIENT included as far as I remember. Again,
such stuff is harder in a virtual PC than in a real
PC. In particular real PCI network cards are easy.
Old ISA cards and external USB cards are harder and
wireless is even very hard. PCIe should be okay :-)

 Is there a way to have freedos recognize files on  my
 hard drive? Like can I copy files from my macs hard
 drive into freedos?

If you run DOS in a virtual PC, this will depend on
the config and abilities of that virtual PC mostly.
Plus a bit on DOS drivers, if you need any at all.

In DOSEMU things are usually easy, but that is only
available for Linux. Not sure about BSD Unixes such
as MacOS in that context.

 Nobody mentioned it yet, but I think the real problem is that the FD
 1.0 .ISO had broken network detection. Or at least that's what I
 heard. I don't understand networking at all, and most of my hardware
 seems to always lack drivers, so I never bothered trying in FreeDOS
 (and have troubles even with more popular OSes, yuck).

There are floppy images like NWDSK (veder.com?) which
autodetect many network chipsets. I assume you could
boot those in a virtual PC as well, even using virtual
floppy drives. Or put them on USB stick or CD-R with
the help of for example SYSLINUX / ISOLINUX / MEMDISK.
Depends a lot on what you want to do whether networking
is really what you want to use :-)

Eric


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Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]

2011-01-12 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On 1/12/11, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote:

 As Mac understands FAT,
 it might help to copy the files to any FAT drive, eg
 USB stick, USB harddisk or floppy, and then connect
 that to your VirtualBox (probably configuration thing
 which needs restarting the DOS)...

Not sure, I think directly using USB from inside VirtualBox is
experimental (read: probably buggy) and not supported in the OSE
version. (Sorry to be such a pessimist.)

 Note that for normal PC BIOSes you often get USB drives
 recognized by having them connected before DOS boots...
 In that case, DOS does not need a driver as the BIOS is
 doing the work.

Forgot about that, yeah it sometimes works (with bugs), but it does
also mean you can't hotplug / swap at runtime.

 In virtualbox, support might differ and
 if you try using DOS USB drivers there, virtualbox will
 have to simulate USB hardware/chipset connected to your
 actual USB drive, which might complicate things.

I do know that VirtualBox has some issues with DOS (e.g. no SB
support), so normally I don't use DOS there. Not sure if they fixed
some of them (EMM386 conflict) though one of the recent ones claims
to. Probably unchecking VT-X in the config helps but is slower.

 There was some page by Uli Hansen about the use of
 various network stuff with DOS, MS network shares
 via MSCLIENT included as far as I remember.

Right, did I accidentally say MS SHARE? I meant NET SHARE or
whatever the syntax is.

 In DOSEMU things are usually easy, but that is only
 available for Linux. Not sure about BSD Unixes such
 as MacOS in that context.

*BSD has doscmd but I haven't tried it (yet), probably very buggy and
weak as it's quite old and unmaintained. I know they claim DOSBox and
VirtualBox both work on BSD. There are even still others (pcxt, pcemu)
untested by me. But yeah, DOSEMU is Linux only, but you can (I think?)
boot Ubuntu off Macs nowadays.

 There are floppy images like NWDSK (veder.com?) which
 autodetect many network chipsets.

Call me a skeptic, but things like that almost never work (for me).
Others smarter than me seem to have better luck, though (e.g. BTTR
crowd).

P.S. The obvious question is, What application(s) are you trying to
run on FreeDOS? It's easier when we know the goal to make concrete
suggestions.

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Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]

2011-01-12 Thread James Collins
Hello,
One of my goals is to set up dhcp, cause I didn't during the install. I would 
like to fool around with lynx within in freedos.

I have some older software like word perfect, some games etc. That I wanted to 
install.

I really want to be able to type a: at a dos prompt and access my floppy drive, 
right now I can't burn a cd because my cd/DVD drive isn't working, I am going 
to fix it.

I know that I got dosbox to recognize my floppy drive? I want to set up mTCP 
which I got to set up dhcp, and I have a folder on my Mac but don't know how to 
get it into freedos? I have also copied it to a floppy, but freedos isn't 
recognizing my floppy drive?

I guess one thing I would like to be able to do is put software into freedos 
from my Mac. I have used disk utility to partition my hard drive and I set up 
some fat space. I was originally gonna use it for freedos but then I got 
virtualbox.



Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 12, 2011, at 5:48 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 On 1/12/11, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote:
 
 As Mac understands FAT,
 it might help to copy the files to any FAT drive, eg
 USB stick, USB harddisk or floppy, and then connect
 that to your VirtualBox (probably configuration thing
 which needs restarting the DOS)...
 
 Not sure, I think directly using USB from inside VirtualBox is
 experimental (read: probably buggy) and not supported in the OSE
 version. (Sorry to be such a pessimist.)
 
 Note that for normal PC BIOSes you often get USB drives
 recognized by having them connected before DOS boots...
 In that case, DOS does not need a driver as the BIOS is
 doing the work.
 
 Forgot about that, yeah it sometimes works (with bugs), but it does
 also mean you can't hotplug / swap at runtime.
 
 In virtualbox, support might differ and
 if you try using DOS USB drivers there, virtualbox will
 have to simulate USB hardware/chipset connected to your
 actual USB drive, which might complicate things.
 
 I do know that VirtualBox has some issues with DOS (e.g. no SB
 support), so normally I don't use DOS there. Not sure if they fixed
 some of them (EMM386 conflict) though one of the recent ones claims
 to. Probably unchecking VT-X in the config helps but is slower.
 
 There was some page by Uli Hansen about the use of
 various network stuff with DOS, MS network shares
 via MSCLIENT included as far as I remember.
 
 Right, did I accidentally say MS SHARE? I meant NET SHARE or
 whatever the syntax is.
 
 In DOSEMU things are usually easy, but that is only
 available for Linux. Not sure about BSD Unixes such
 as MacOS in that context.
 
 *BSD has doscmd but I haven't tried it (yet), probably very buggy and
 weak as it's quite old and unmaintained. I know they claim DOSBox and
 VirtualBox both work on BSD. There are even still others (pcxt, pcemu)
 untested by me. But yeah, DOSEMU is Linux only, but you can (I think?)
 boot Ubuntu off Macs nowadays.
 
 There are floppy images like NWDSK (veder.com?) which
 autodetect many network chipsets.
 
 Call me a skeptic, but things like that almost never work (for me).
 Others smarter than me seem to have better luck, though (e.g. BTTR
 crowd).
 
 P.S. The obvious question is, What application(s) are you trying to
 run on FreeDOS? It's easier when we know the goal to make concrete
 suggestions.
 
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