Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting FreeDOS to a SMB share
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:30 PM, mbbrut...@brutman.com wrote: Quoting Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de: Hi Santiago, Update: I installed easily the NDIS2 drivers for my card, then the packet driver wrapper. mTCP is working perfectly. Right now, I am trying TCP's MS CLIENT 3.0 to connect to the SMB share through TCP/IP. Nice! Maybe you could email a summary of how you did it? I mean what you installed and which config files you had to edit in which way to make MTCP work via NDIS etc :-) I second that motion - I've never used NDIS and a shim before and I'd like to see how that is done. I am sorry I can answer just now. The shim was so easy to configure, I followed the howto in the sourceforge FreeDOS networking page. (FD)CONFIG.SYS: DEVICEHIGH=C:\NET\PROTMAN.DOS /I:C:\NET DEVICEHIGH=C:\NET\B44.DOS DEVICEHIGH=C:\NET\DIS_PKT.DOS ;devicehigh=C:\NET\ifshlp.sys B44.DOS is the NDIS2 driver for my ethernet card, PROTMAN.DOS is part of the MS-DOS Addon for workgroup and DIS_PKT.DOS comes with FreeDOS. I comment the ifshlp.sys because I am not completely sure what it is for. I think it is something for DOS networking, not sure, though. AUTOEXEC.BAT: C:\NET\netbind.com C:\MTCP\DHCP.EXE PROTOCOL.INI: [protman] DriverName=PROTMAN$ [B44] DriverName = B44$ [PKTDRV] drivername=PKTDRV$ binding=B44 intvec=0x60 chainvec=0x68 It just works, so easy! Santiago -- Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting FreeDOS to a SMB share
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Mike Eriksen thinstation.m...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Santiago Almenara almen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I have set up my FreeDOS PC and everthing is working just fine except for the audio (ok I pray to God someday there will be a way to play DOS games with sound under plain DOS) Now I want to connect this PC to a Windows/SMB share to speed the file transfer. Right now, I have to burn a CDRW in one machine and use it in the FreeDOS PC. What I think I need in my DOS PC: 1. A network card (duh!) 2. A driver for the card 3. A packet driver for the card 4. mTCP (for DHCP) 5. some software to connect the DOS to SMB. IMHO, not quite so. 2 and 3 is one point, If you can't get a packet driver for your NIC, you are forced to fight with NIDIS 2. Have fun... Ad 5) Well, depends... Windows for Workgroups ( and the DOS add-on DOS for Workgroups) originally worked through the NETBEUI protocol, not TCP. From win95 and forward a parallel TCP communication channel got added to Windows Networking. So even though you can get TCP up and running with FD, you still need a FD front end to translate NETBEUI net use * \\server\share into TCP. Such a front end may exist, but I don't know one. Update: I installed easily the NDIS2 drivers for my card, then the packet driver wrapper. mTCP is working perfectly. Right now, I am trying TCP's MS CLIENT 3.0 to connect to the SMB share through TCP/IP. The SMB share is actually a Dlink NAS, I can use NFS too, but I have to install some modules before. I'll try a little more for SMB and then try NFS. -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting FreeDOS to a SMB share
Hi Santiago, Update: I installed easily the NDIS2 drivers for my card, then the packet driver wrapper. mTCP is working perfectly. Right now, I am trying TCP's MS CLIENT 3.0 to connect to the SMB share through TCP/IP. Nice! Maybe you could email a summary of how you did it? I mean what you installed and which config files you had to edit in which way to make MTCP work via NDIS etc :-) The SMB share is actually a Dlink NAS, I can use NFS too, but I have to install some modules before. I'll try a little more for SMB and then try NFS. Interesting. I assume you can also access the NAS via FTP or even HTTP? Samba sounds okay for me, but of course the choice between MSCLIENT and the ported Linux Samba command line tool smbclient is not that big :-) Eric -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting FreeDOS to a SMB share
Quoting Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de: Hi Santiago, Update: I installed easily the NDIS2 drivers for my card, then the packet driver wrapper. mTCP is working perfectly. Right now, I am trying TCP's MS CLIENT 3.0 to connect to the SMB share through TCP/IP. Nice! Maybe you could email a summary of how you did it? I mean what you installed and which config files you had to edit in which way to make MTCP work via NDIS etc :-) I second that motion - I've never used NDIS and a shim before and I'd like to see how that is done. The SMB share is actually a Dlink NAS, I can use NFS too, but I have to install some modules before. I'll try a little more for SMB and then try NFS. Interesting. I assume you can also access the NAS via FTP or even HTTP? Samba sounds okay for me, but of course the choice between MSCLIENT and the ported Linux Samba command line tool smbclient is not that big :-) Eric If most NAS boxes do HTTP, is this the reason/motivation I need to get wget done? Mike -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting FreeDOS to a SMB share
With all the discussion on mTCP it seems this package is getting a lot of attention. Is there any update as to when we might be able to get source or even just a binary library? -Original Message- From: mbbrutman mbbrut...@brutman.com To: freedos-user freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Mon, Jan 17, 2011 2:31 pm Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting FreeDOS to a SMB share Quoting Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de: Hi Santiago, Update: I installed easily the NDIS2 drivers for my card, then the packet driver wrapper. mTCP is working perfectly. Right now, I am trying TCP's MS CLIENT 3.0 to connect to the SMB share through TCP/IP. Nice! Maybe you could email a summary of how you did it? I mean what you installed and which config files you had to edit in which way to make MTCP work via NDIS etc :-) I second that motion - I've never used NDIS and a shim before and I'd like to see how that is done. The SMB share is actually a Dlink NAS, I can use NFS too, but I have to install some modules before. I'll try a little more for SMB and then try NFS. Interesting. I assume you can also access the NAS via FTP or even HTTP? Samba sounds okay for me, but of course the choice between MSCLIENT and the ported Linux Samba command line tool smbclient is not that big :-) Eric If most NAS boxes do HTTP, is this the reason/motivation I need to get wget done? Mike -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting FreeDOS to a SMB share
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 9:30 PM, mbbrut...@brutman.com wrote: Quoting Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de: [CUT] If most NAS boxes do HTTP, is this the reason/motivation I need to get wget done? +1! Mike -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting FreeDOS to a SMB share
Quoting cordat...@aol.com: With all the discussion on mTCP it seems this package is getting a lot of attention. Is there any update as to when we might be able to get source or even just a binary library? Short story - working on it. Longer story .. it's all my original code and I have copyright to it. However, the large corporation that pays me insists on approving any open source contributions. (Which is reasonable.) So you can imagine the look on people's faces when I said I want to start a new open source project, for DOS. I seriously don't think they know what to do. :-) A binary library is possible and I originally started down that path, but it makes more sense to just have people include the original source code and directly compile and link in everything they need. Otherwise they wind up dealing with whatever compromises were compiled into the library. It is all evolving as I learn .. Mike -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting FreeDOS to a SMB share
I appreciate the interest in mTCP, but there is a limitation you need to be aware of. The mTCP DHCP client is designed for the mTCP applications. You can use it and adapt it to do other things, but you will have to write some scripts or code to take the output from the DHCP client (a text file) and make it usable for whatever app you had in mind. For example, if you liked my DHCP client and wanted to use it with WATTCP applications, you would have to run my DHCP client, extract the IP addresses that you need from the MTCPCFG file, and then put them in the WATTCP config file. I don't know what it takes to make it usable for something like the MS SMB client - it can probably be done/adapted, but it's not something I thought about and I don't expect it to work 'out of the box'. It only works out of the box with the other mTCP applications. Mike -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting FreeDOS to a SMB share
Hi! What I think I need in my DOS PC: 1. A network card (duh!) 2. A driver for the card 3. A packet driver for the card 4. mTCP (for DHCP) 5. some software to connect the DOS to SMB. 1. My laptop has 2 network interfaces: - Broadcom BCM401 10/100 - Intel Wireless 3945 a/b/g For now, I will discard the wireless option, I'll stick to the wired option. Exactly. 2. In the Broadcom site, there are 3 DOS drivers for the Broadcom BCM401 You can also try http://www.crynwr.com/drivers/00index.html but I do not really see Broadcom there... 10/100: NDIS2, 16 ODI, 32 ODI. NDIS and ODI are more high level. Depending on your app, you simply need a low level packet driver. However, there are also wrappers to turn one into the other as far as I remember. Reading in the web, ODI is for Netware and Apple. NDIS2 is for Microsoft networks. What do I need? Or I need a fourth option specific for FreeDOS? See above, but better, see: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Networking_FreeDOS (formerly known as lazybrowndog.net/freedos/ :-)) 3. I think a packet driver is the same than the network driver, please help here. See the page above :-) 4. mTCP seems to be easy to configure. Maybe, but in DOS, networking is not a global operating system thing. Instead, it is something done by one or more libraries used by your network related software. For example your Arachne web browser might use WATTCP, while your FTP client might use MTCP instead. Both have separate configuration mechanisms. Of course both can still access the same packet driver though :-) 5. Finally what package do I need to connect the FreeDOS to a SMB share (assuming all previos steps are working fine). I can read the docs, but I have to know what package to look and investigate. There are basically two options: MSCLIENT, free by MS but very old and using a lot of RAM. On the other hand, sources like the FreeDOS Wiki / Lazybrowndog / FreeDOS FAQ etc etc have lots of information on how to get MSCLIENT to work. The other option is the DOS version of the Linux SAMBA smbclient. This works like a command line FTP client / shell, so you type commands to go to the files that you want and to upload and download them, all IN the smbclient shell. Your SMB share does not get any DOS drive letter that way and you cannot use it from, say, EDIT that way. Of course SAMBA also can help you to mount drives in Linux, but because this works completely different in DOS, it would be hard to port, compared to porting smbclient which just needs basic C library services and a networking library and packet drivers :-) Eric -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting FreeDOS to a SMB share
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Santiago Almenara almen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I have set up my FreeDOS PC and everthing is working just fine except for the audio (ok I pray to God someday there will be a way to play DOS games with sound under plain DOS) Now I want to connect this PC to a Windows/SMB share to speed the file transfer. Right now, I have to burn a CDRW in one machine and use it in the FreeDOS PC. What I think I need in my DOS PC: 1. A network card (duh!) 2. A driver for the card 3. A packet driver for the card 4. mTCP (for DHCP) 5. some software to connect the DOS to SMB. IMHO, not quite so. 2 and 3 is one point, If you can't get a packet driver for your NIC, you are forced to fight with NIDIS 2. Have fun... Ad 5) Well, depends... Windows for Workgroups ( and the DOS add-on DOS for Workgroups) originally worked through the NETBEUI protocol, not TCP. From win95 and forward a parallel TCP communication channel got added to Windows Networking. So even though you can get TCP up and running with FD, you still need a FD front end to translate NETBEUI net use * \\server\share into TCP. Such a front end may exist, but I don't know one. 1. My laptop has 2 network interfaces: - Broadcom BCM401 10/100 Broadcom :-) Have fun. Mike - Intel Wireless 3945 a/b/g For now, I will discard the wireless option, I'll stick to the wired option. 2. In the Broadcom site, there are 3 DOS drivers for the Broadcom BCM401 10/100: NDIS2, 16 ODI, 32 ODI. Reading in the web, ODI is for Netware and Apple. NDIS2 is for Microsoft networks. What do I need? Or I need a fourth option specific for FreeDOS? 3. I think a packet driver is the same than the network driver, please help here. 4. mTCP seems to be easy to configure. 5. Finally what package do I need to connect the FreeDOS to a SMB share (assuming all previos steps are working fine). I can read the docs, but I have to know what package to look and investigate. Thanks for your help. Santiago -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
