Re: [Freeipa-users] Standard Logging
On 17.6.2014 19:24, Rob Crittenden wrote: Innes, Duncan wrote: Fair call Rob, I should have put standard in quotes. I think I meant to. I know applications doing their own logging is pretty wide spread too. It's just that moving to a more unified tool that performed the logging, remote shipping, rotation, compression etc (where required) would be great. Whilst I like journald a lot, it still misses native log shipping. I think it's being worked on though. As an IdM user, I figure I'll have to wait around quite a while to get any such features. Yeah, sorry about that. Audit is one of those things where the word just comes up a lot which usually means trouble :-) I'll have a poke around with using rsyslog for some IPA logs just now. That would be great. Please share the things you learn. Feel free to create wiki page, e.g. http://www.freeipa.org/page/Howto/Logging_to_syslog Your ordinary Fedora account will allow you to log-in and create the page. Thank you for your time! Petr^2 Spacek regards rob Cheers Duncan -Original Message- From: Rob Crittenden [mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com] Sent: 17 June 2014 17:07 To: Innes, Duncan; freeipa-users@redhat.com Subject: Re: [Freeipa-users] Standard Logging Innes, Duncan wrote: Hi folks, Is there any movement towards getting FreeIPA to use more standard logging tools? Journald or rsyslog. I wouldn't exactly call servers logging to their own files as non-standard. You can theoretically configure most services to use at least rsyslogd now. I says theoretically because we haven't tried in the context of IPA but I doubt you'd be plowing any new ground by configuring it. Wondering because at the moment, the rotation of logs is non standard compared to most of the rest of our estate. It would be a boost for us to know that rsyslog/journald are handling the logging (enabling us to get the log files sent over the network) and logrotate is rotating the logs and can compress logs if we want (which we do). There is a long-term ticket to use journald, https://fedorahosted.org/freeipa/ticket/4296 ___ Freeipa-users mailing list Freeipa-users@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/freeipa-users
[Freeipa-users] Standard Logging
Hi folks, Is there any movement towards getting FreeIPA to use more standard logging tools? Journald or rsyslog. Wondering because at the moment, the rotation of logs is non standard compared to most of the rest of our estate. It would be a boost for us to know that rsyslog/journald are handling the logging (enabling us to get the log files sent over the network) and logrotate is rotating the logs and can compress logs if we want (which we do). Cheers Duncan This message has been checked for viruses and spam by the Virgin Money email scanning system powered by Messagelabs. This e-mail is intended to be confidential to the recipient. If you receive a copy in error, please inform the sender and then delete this message. Virgin Money plc - Registered in England and Wales (Company no. 6952311). Registered office - Jubilee House, Gosforth, Newcastle upon Tyne NE3 4PL. Virgin Money plc is authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and the Prudential Regulation Authority. The following companies also trade as Virgin Money. They are both authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority, are registered in England and Wales and have their registered office at Jubilee House, Gosforth, Newcastle upon Tyne NE3 4PL: Virgin Money Personal Financial Service Limited (Company no. 3072766) and Virgin Money Unit Trust Managers Limited (Company no. 3000482). For further details of Virgin Money group companies please visit our website at virginmoney.com ___ Freeipa-users mailing list Freeipa-users@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/freeipa-users
Re: [Freeipa-users] Standard Logging
Innes, Duncan wrote: Hi folks, Is there any movement towards getting FreeIPA to use more standard logging tools? Journald or rsyslog. I wouldn't exactly call servers logging to their own files as non-standard. You can theoretically configure most services to use at least rsyslogd now. I says theoretically because we haven't tried in the context of IPA but I doubt you'd be plowing any new ground by configuring it. Wondering because at the moment, the rotation of logs is non standard compared to most of the rest of our estate. It would be a boost for us to know that rsyslog/journald are handling the logging (enabling us to get the log files sent over the network) and logrotate is rotating the logs and can compress logs if we want (which we do). There is a long-term ticket to use journald, https://fedorahosted.org/freeipa/ticket/4296 rob ___ Freeipa-users mailing list Freeipa-users@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/freeipa-users
Re: [Freeipa-users] Standard Logging
Fair call Rob, I should have put standard in quotes. I think I meant to. I know applications doing their own logging is pretty wide spread too. It's just that moving to a more unified tool that performed the logging, remote shipping, rotation, compression etc (where required) would be great. Whilst I like journald a lot, it still misses native log shipping. I think it's being worked on though. As an IdM user, I figure I'll have to wait around quite a while to get any such features. I'll have a poke around with using rsyslog for some IPA logs just now. Cheers Duncan -Original Message- From: Rob Crittenden [mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com] Sent: 17 June 2014 17:07 To: Innes, Duncan; freeipa-users@redhat.com Subject: Re: [Freeipa-users] Standard Logging Innes, Duncan wrote: Hi folks, Is there any movement towards getting FreeIPA to use more standard logging tools? Journald or rsyslog. I wouldn't exactly call servers logging to their own files as non-standard. You can theoretically configure most services to use at least rsyslogd now. I says theoretically because we haven't tried in the context of IPA but I doubt you'd be plowing any new ground by configuring it. Wondering because at the moment, the rotation of logs is non standard compared to most of the rest of our estate. It would be a boost for us to know that rsyslog/journald are handling the logging (enabling us to get the log files sent over the network) and logrotate is rotating the logs and can compress logs if we want (which we do). There is a long-term ticket to use journald, https://fedorahosted.org/freeipa/ticket/4296 rob This message has been checked for viruses and spam by the Virgin Money email scanning system powered by Messagelabs. This message has been checked for viruses and spam by the Virgin Money email scanning system powered by Messagelabs. This e-mail is intended to be confidential to the recipient. If you receive a copy in error, please inform the sender and then delete this message. Virgin Money plc - Registered in England and Wales (Company no. 6952311). Registered office - Jubilee House, Gosforth, Newcastle upon Tyne NE3 4PL. Virgin Money plc is authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and the Prudential Regulation Authority. The following companies also trade as Virgin Money. They are both authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority, are registered in England and Wales and have their registered office at Jubilee House, Gosforth, Newcastle upon Tyne NE3 4PL: Virgin Money Personal Financial Service Limited (Company no. 3072766) and Virgin Money Unit Trust Managers Limited (Company no. 3000482). For further details of Virgin Money group companies please visit our website at virginmoney.com ___ Freeipa-users mailing list Freeipa-users@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/freeipa-users
Re: [Freeipa-users] Standard Logging
On Tue, 17 Jun 2014, Innes, Duncan wrote: Fair call Rob, I should have put standard in quotes. I think I meant to. I know applications doing their own logging is pretty wide spread too. It's just that moving to a more unified tool that performed the logging, remote shipping, rotation, compression etc (where required) would be great. Whilst I like journald a lot, it still misses native log shipping. I think it's being worked on though. Yes, it is being worked on. As an IdM user, I figure I'll have to wait around quite a while to get any such features. I'll have a poke around with using rsyslog for some IPA logs just now. Note that rsyslog can take journal messages and forward them to another host's journal without loosing journal-specific fields. -- / Alexander Bokovoy ___ Freeipa-users mailing list Freeipa-users@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/freeipa-users
Re: [Freeipa-users] Standard Logging
Innes, Duncan wrote: Fair call Rob, I should have put standard in quotes. I think I meant to. I know applications doing their own logging is pretty wide spread too. It's just that moving to a more unified tool that performed the logging, remote shipping, rotation, compression etc (where required) would be great. Whilst I like journald a lot, it still misses native log shipping. I think it's being worked on though. As an IdM user, I figure I'll have to wait around quite a while to get any such features. Yeah, sorry about that. Audit is one of those things where the word just comes up a lot which usually means trouble :-) I'll have a poke around with using rsyslog for some IPA logs just now. That would be great. Please share the things you learn. regards rob Cheers Duncan -Original Message- From: Rob Crittenden [mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com] Sent: 17 June 2014 17:07 To: Innes, Duncan; freeipa-users@redhat.com Subject: Re: [Freeipa-users] Standard Logging Innes, Duncan wrote: Hi folks, Is there any movement towards getting FreeIPA to use more standard logging tools? Journald or rsyslog. I wouldn't exactly call servers logging to their own files as non-standard. You can theoretically configure most services to use at least rsyslogd now. I says theoretically because we haven't tried in the context of IPA but I doubt you'd be plowing any new ground by configuring it. Wondering because at the moment, the rotation of logs is non standard compared to most of the rest of our estate. It would be a boost for us to know that rsyslog/journald are handling the logging (enabling us to get the log files sent over the network) and logrotate is rotating the logs and can compress logs if we want (which we do). There is a long-term ticket to use journald, https://fedorahosted.org/freeipa/ticket/4296 rob This message has been checked for viruses and spam by the Virgin Money email scanning system powered by Messagelabs. This message has been checked for viruses and spam by the Virgin Money email scanning system powered by Messagelabs. This e-mail is intended to be confidential to the recipient. If you receive a copy in error, please inform the sender and then delete this message. Virgin Money plc - Registered in England and Wales (Company no. 6952311). Registered office - Jubilee House, Gosforth, Newcastle upon Tyne NE3 4PL. Virgin Money plc is authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and the Prudential Regulation Authority. The following companies also trade as Virgin Money. They are both authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority, are registered in England and Wales and have their registered office at Jubilee House, Gosforth, Newcastle upon Tyne NE3 4PL: Virgin Money Personal Financial Service Limited (Company no. 3072766) and Virgin Money Unit Trust Managers Limited (Company no. 3000482). For further details of Virgin Money group companies please visit our website at virginmoney.com ___ Freeipa-users mailing list Freeipa-users@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/freeipa-users
