Re: fvwm and casting from chrome
On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 15:49 (-0500), Peter G wrote: > On 5/28/20 8:00 AM, Jim Diamond wrote: >> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 21:58 (-0500), Peter G wrote: >>> On 5/27/20 9:37 PM, Jim Diamond wrote: >>> > On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 21:32 (-0500), Peter G wrote: >>> > > On 5/27/20 4:58 PM, Thomas Adam wrote: >>> > > > On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 04:41:08PM -0500, peter g wrote: >>> > > > > Hi Everyone: >>> > > > Hello! >>> > > > > i have a frustrating issue with fvwm and casting from google's >>> > > > > chrome, that >>> > > > > maybe somebody has a workaround for. >>> > > > > Normally, under any other WM i've tried (and also on windows), in >>> > > > > the chrome >>> > > > > browser, choosing "Cast", will pop up a small window that asks the >>> > > > > user what >>> > > > > device to cast to. Unfortunately in fvwm that little window with >>> > > > > those >>> > > > > options does not show up. >>> > > > > I've tried both with my config, but also with a very fvwm config >>> > > > > such as: >>> > > > > key c A CM FvwmConsole >>> > > > > key r A CM Restart >>> > > > > Key u A CM Exec xterm >>> > > > > If anyone has a work around, that would be much appreciated, as >>> > > > > casting, for >>> > > > > better or worse, is very useful to me. >>> > > > Well, if it's a transient window, it will (by default) popup along >>> > > > side the >>> > > > parent window. That said, you can try: >>> > > > BugOpts ExplainWindowPlacement On >>> > > > in your ~/.fvwm2rc file, and monitor stderr to see what FVMM thinks >>> > > > of your >>> > > > missing window. >>> > > Thanks, I've tried that. >>> > > Doesn't show anything (I know that option is working, as I get the debug >>> > > info for other windows). As pointed out in another email, that "cast" >>> > > window >>> > > might indeed be a chrome internal window... what bothers me though, is >>> > > why >>> > > it shows up in other window managers. >>> > I haven't tried another window manager, but for what it's worth, the >>> > cast window does not show up for me in google-chrome. >>> Thank you for checking! >> No trouble! >>> > By the way, are you running these different window managers on the >>> > same Linux distro? Or is it possible you are using fvwm on one Linux, >>> > and other window managers on a different Linux distro? >>> I have done these check on the same machine, with the same installation of >>> chrome (i.e just long into a different WM). >>> A few window managers i checked: icewm, lxde, gnome (ubuntu's 18.04 default >>> desktop), ubuntu's winland desktop thing. All work as expected. >>> BTW, I'm running the latest github version 2 master branch of fvwm. Which >>> are you running? >> I tried this with google-chrome-81.0.4044.113 / fvwm-2.6.6+git on >> Slackware64-14.2 as well as google-chrome-83.0.4103.61 / fvwm-2.6.9 on >> Slackware64-current. >> The 2.6.6+git is probably (memory fails, I installed it in Sept 2017) >> a version from git around when 2.6.6 was the latest and greatest. >> If I get a chance to try another wm on these systems I'll follow-up. > ok, thanks for that. I ran xfce4. When there, chrome did, in fact pop up the little window. So it would seem that somehow fvwm is related; whether it is something fvwm2 is doing or something that it isn't doing (but chrome assumes) is an interesting question. I'm happy to do more similar experiments if that is of any use to anyone who wants to try to track this down. Jim
Re: fvwm and casting from chrome
On 5/28/20 8:00 AM, Jim Diamond wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 21:58 (-0500), Peter G wrote: On 5/27/20 9:37 PM, Jim Diamond wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 21:32 (-0500), Peter G wrote: On 5/27/20 4:58 PM, Thomas Adam wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 04:41:08PM -0500, peter g wrote: Hi Everyone: Hello! i have a frustrating issue with fvwm and casting from google's chrome, that maybe somebody has a workaround for. Normally, under any other WM i've tried (and also on windows), in the chrome browser, choosing "Cast", will pop up a small window that asks the user what device to cast to. Unfortunately in fvwm that little window with those options does not show up. I've tried both with my config, but also with a very fvwm config such as: key c A CM FvwmConsole key r A CM Restart Key u A CM Exec xterm If anyone has a work around, that would be much appreciated, as casting, for better or worse, is very useful to me. Well, if it's a transient window, it will (by default) popup along side the parent window. That said, you can try: BugOpts ExplainWindowPlacement On in your ~/.fvwm2rc file, and monitor stderr to see what FVMM thinks of your missing window. Thanks, I've tried that. Doesn't show anything (I know that option is working, as I get the debug info for other windows). As pointed out in another email, that "cast" window might indeed be a chrome internal window... what bothers me though, is why it shows up in other window managers. I haven't tried another window manager, but for what it's worth, the cast window does not show up for me in google-chrome. Thank you for checking! No trouble! By the way, are you running these different window managers on the same Linux distro? Or is it possible you are using fvwm on one Linux, and other window managers on a different Linux distro? I have done these check on the same machine, with the same installation of chrome (i.e just long into a different WM). A few window managers i checked: icewm, lxde, gnome (ubuntu's 18.04 default desktop), ubuntu's winland desktop thing. All work as expected. BTW, I'm running the latest github version 2 master branch of fvwm. Which are you running? I tried this with google-chrome-81.0.4044.113 / fvwm-2.6.6+git on Slackware64-14.2 as well as google-chrome-83.0.4103.61 / fvwm-2.6.9 on Slackware64-current. The 2.6.6+git is probably (memory fails, I installed it in Sept 2017) a version from git around when 2.6.6 was the latest and greatest. If I get a chance to try another wm on these systems I'll follow-up. ok, thanks for that. Per Dan Espen's recommendation i tried to load some desktop-environment thing as well as and seeing what chrome is complaining about via strace... but at no avail. puzzling Jim
Re: fvwm and casting from chrome
On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 21:58 (-0500), Peter G wrote: > On 5/27/20 9:37 PM, Jim Diamond wrote: >> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 21:32 (-0500), Peter G wrote: >>> On 5/27/20 4:58 PM, Thomas Adam wrote: >>> > On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 04:41:08PM -0500, peter g wrote: >>> > > Hi Everyone: >>> > Hello! >>> > > i have a frustrating issue with fvwm and casting from google's chrome, >>> > > that >>> > > maybe somebody has a workaround for. >>> > > Normally, under any other WM i've tried (and also on windows), in the >>> > > chrome >>> > > browser, choosing "Cast", will pop up a small window that asks the user >>> > > what >>> > > device to cast to. Unfortunately in fvwm that little window with those >>> > > options does not show up. >>> > > I've tried both with my config, but also with a very fvwm config such >>> > > as: >>> > > key c A CM FvwmConsole >>> > > key r A CM Restart >>> > > Key u A CM Exec xterm >>> > > If anyone has a work around, that would be much appreciated, as >>> > > casting, for >>> > > better or worse, is very useful to me. >>> > Well, if it's a transient window, it will (by default) popup along side >>> > the >>> > parent window. That said, you can try: >>> > BugOpts ExplainWindowPlacement On >>> > in your ~/.fvwm2rc file, and monitor stderr to see what FVMM thinks of >>> > your >>> > missing window. >>> Thanks, I've tried that. >>> Doesn't show anything (I know that option is working, as I get the debug >>> info for other windows). As pointed out in another email, that "cast" window >>> might indeed be a chrome internal window... what bothers me though, is why >>> it shows up in other window managers. >> I haven't tried another window manager, but for what it's worth, the >> cast window does not show up for me in google-chrome. > Thank you for checking! No trouble! >> By the way, are you running these different window managers on the >> same Linux distro? Or is it possible you are using fvwm on one Linux, >> and other window managers on a different Linux distro? > I have done these check on the same machine, with the same installation of > chrome (i.e just long into a different WM). > A few window managers i checked: icewm, lxde, gnome (ubuntu's 18.04 default > desktop), ubuntu's winland desktop thing. All work as expected. > BTW, I'm running the latest github version 2 master branch of fvwm. Which > are you running? I tried this with google-chrome-81.0.4044.113 / fvwm-2.6.6+git on Slackware64-14.2 as well as google-chrome-83.0.4103.61 / fvwm-2.6.9 on Slackware64-current. The 2.6.6+git is probably (memory fails, I installed it in Sept 2017) a version from git around when 2.6.6 was the latest and greatest. If I get a chance to try another wm on these systems I'll follow-up. Jim
Re: fvwm and casting from chrome
On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 21:32 (-0500), Peter G wrote: > On 5/27/20 4:58 PM, Thomas Adam wrote: >> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 04:41:08PM -0500, peter g wrote: >>> Hi Everyone: >> Hello! >>> i have a frustrating issue with fvwm and casting from google's chrome, that >>> maybe somebody has a workaround for. >>> Normally, under any other WM i've tried (and also on windows), in the chrome >>> browser, choosing "Cast", will pop up a small window that asks the user what >>> device to cast to. Unfortunately in fvwm that little window with those >>> options does not show up. >>> I've tried both with my config, but also with a very fvwm config such as: >>> key c A CM FvwmConsole >>> key r A CM Restart >>> Key u A CM Exec xterm >>> If anyone has a work around, that would be much appreciated, as casting, for >>> better or worse, is very useful to me. >> Well, if it's a transient window, it will (by default) popup along side the >> parent window. That said, you can try: >> BugOpts ExplainWindowPlacement On >> in your ~/.fvwm2rc file, and monitor stderr to see what FVMM thinks of your >> missing window. > Thanks, I've tried that. > Doesn't show anything (I know that option is working, as I get the debug > info for other windows). As pointed out in another email, that "cast" window > might indeed be a chrome internal window... what bothers me though, is why > it shows up in other window managers. I haven't tried another window manager, but for what it's worth, the cast window does not show up for me in google-chrome. By the way, are you running these different window managers on the same Linux distro? Or is it possible you are using fvwm on one Linux, and other window managers on a different Linux distro? Cheers. Jim
Re: fvwm and casting from chrome
On 5/27/20 9:37 PM, Jim Diamond wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 21:32 (-0500), Peter G wrote: On 5/27/20 4:58 PM, Thomas Adam wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 04:41:08PM -0500, peter g wrote: Hi Everyone: Hello! i have a frustrating issue with fvwm and casting from google's chrome, that maybe somebody has a workaround for. Normally, under any other WM i've tried (and also on windows), in the chrome browser, choosing "Cast", will pop up a small window that asks the user what device to cast to. Unfortunately in fvwm that little window with those options does not show up. I've tried both with my config, but also with a very fvwm config such as: key c A CM FvwmConsole key r A CM Restart Key u A CM Exec xterm If anyone has a work around, that would be much appreciated, as casting, for better or worse, is very useful to me. Well, if it's a transient window, it will (by default) popup along side the parent window. That said, you can try: BugOpts ExplainWindowPlacement On in your ~/.fvwm2rc file, and monitor stderr to see what FVMM thinks of your missing window. Thanks, I've tried that. Doesn't show anything (I know that option is working, as I get the debug info for other windows). As pointed out in another email, that "cast" window might indeed be a chrome internal window... what bothers me though, is why it shows up in other window managers. I haven't tried another window manager, but for what it's worth, the cast window does not show up for me in google-chrome. Thank you for checking! By the way, are you running these different window managers on the same Linux distro? Or is it possible you are using fvwm on one Linux, and other window managers on a different Linux distro? I have done these check on the same machine, with the same installation of chrome (i.e just long into a different WM). A few window managers i checked: icewm, lxde, gnome (ubuntu's 18.04 default desktop), ubuntu's winland desktop thing. All work as expected. BTW, I'm running the latest github version 2 master branch of fvwm. Which are you running? I'm wondering this because Dan Espen mentioned in another email that he does see the cast window pop up in chromium (which for me is also not visible). thanks Cheers. Jim
Re: fvwm and casting from chrome
On 5/27/20 4:58 PM, Thomas Adam wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 04:41:08PM -0500, peter g wrote: Hi Everyone: Hello! i have a frustrating issue with fvwm and casting from google's chrome, that maybe somebody has a workaround for. Normally, under any other WM i've tried (and also on windows), in the chrome browser, choosing "Cast", will pop up a small window that asks the user what device to cast to. Unfortunately in fvwm that little window with those options does not show up. I've tried both with my config, but also with a very fvwm config such as: key c A CM FvwmConsole key r A CM Restart Key u A CM Exec xterm If anyone has a work around, that would be much appreciated, as casting, for better or worse, is very useful to me. Well, if it's a transient window, it will (by default) popup along side the parent window. That said, you can try: BugOpts ExplainWindowPlacement On in your ~/.fvwm2rc file, and monitor stderr to see what FVMM thinks of your missing window. Thanks, I've tried that. Doesn't show anything (I know that option is working, as I get the debug info for other windows). As pointed out in another email, that "cast" window might indeed be a chrome internal window... what bothers me though, is why it shows up in other window managers. Kindly, Thomas
Re: fvwm and casting from chrome
peter g writes: > Hi Everyone: > > i have a frustrating issue with fvwm and casting from google's chrome, > that maybe somebody has a workaround for. > > Normally, under any other WM i've tried (and also on windows), in the > chrome browser, choosing "Cast", will pop up a small window that asks > the user what device to cast to. Unfortunately in fvwm that little > window with those options does not show up. > > I've tried both with my config, but also with a very fvwm config such as: > key c A CM FvwmConsole > key r A CM Restart > Key u A CM Exec xterm > > If anyone has a work around, that would be much appreciated, as > casting, for better or worse, is very useful to me. I've got chromium, not google-chrome. I click on the 3 dots on the second line, a menu pops up, I select "cast". A dialog box pops up labeled "cast tab". It searches for devices and finds none. That dialog box is internal to the browser, it's not a window manager window. -- Dan Espen
Re: fvwm and casting from chrome
On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 04:41:08PM -0500, peter g wrote: > Hi Everyone: Hello! > i have a frustrating issue with fvwm and casting from google's chrome, that > maybe somebody has a workaround for. > > Normally, under any other WM i've tried (and also on windows), in the chrome > browser, choosing "Cast", will pop up a small window that asks the user what > device to cast to. Unfortunately in fvwm that little window with those > options does not show up. > > I've tried both with my config, but also with a very fvwm config such as: > key c A CM FvwmConsole > key r A CM Restart > Key u A CM Exec xterm > > If anyone has a work around, that would be much appreciated, as casting, for > better or worse, is very useful to me. Well, if it's a transient window, it will (by default) popup along side the parent window. That said, you can try: BugOpts ExplainWindowPlacement On in your ~/.fvwm2rc file, and monitor stderr to see what FVMM thinks of your missing window. Kindly, Thomas
fvwm and casting from chrome
Hi Everyone: i have a frustrating issue with fvwm and casting from google's chrome, that maybe somebody has a workaround for. Normally, under any other WM i've tried (and also on windows), in the chrome browser, choosing "Cast", will pop up a small window that asks the user what device to cast to. Unfortunately in fvwm that little window with those options does not show up. I've tried both with my config, but also with a very fvwm config such as: key c A CM FvwmConsole key r A CM Restart Key u A CM Exec xterm If anyone has a work around, that would be much appreciated, as casting, for better or worse, is very useful to me. thanks!
