Re: xserve question
yeah I went ahead and emailed the guy to see why exactly it wouldn't work... haven't gotten a reply...-Jonas On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 9:24 PM, tortoise cymraeg...@gmail.com wrote: Dude, it says right at the bottom no Xserve g4s ! On Mar 24, 8:23 pm, Bill Christensen billc_li...@greenbuilder.com wrote: At 5:11 PM -0700 3/24/09, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I just bought two Xserve G4's. They are on there way and i had some questions. I know you can get the apple drive modules and boot off one of those right? I don't have any adm's but would still like to use the internal ata 100/133. Is there a way to do that without using an adm? I don't care if there is a way to mount the hard drive. Xserve G4 DP1GHZ Xserve DP1.33GHZ -Jonas You might be in luck. Someone on LEMSwap just posted this the other day (apologies for the cross-post). Perhaps he can do what's needed for xserve G4s too: From: Donald Hall lems...@ninjaproduction.com To: lems...@googlegroups.com Subject: FS: Xserve G5 Custom SATA Power Wiring Harness (No Trays Required!) I'm offering the service of custom built hard drive power cables for use in Xserve G5s. These cables plug directly into the motherboard and take the place of the normal hot-swap backplane in the Xserve. With the backplane removed, you're free to insert any SATA hard drive without the need for an Apple Drive Tray, saving several hundred dollars. All you'll need will be SATA cables to connect your hard drives to the motherboard or to a PCI card, whichever you prefer. These power cables also allow you to install 3 or more hard drives in a Cluster Node Xserve. So far I've built two of these cables, one for my own Xserve and another for a friend. My Xserve Cluster Node has three 1.5TB 3.5 hard drives in the drive bays connected to a Highpoint Tech RocketRAID card as well as a 2.5 SATA hard drive in the PCI bay that is connected to the motherboard as a boot drive. I'm able to build a cable to power any number of drives, from one to three in the drive bays and there's room for up to two 2.5 drives in the PCI bay. Since needs will vary, I'll offer 'build to order' pricing. $30 - Single Drive Power Harness $20 - Each Additional Drive Serious Inquiries Only Please When considering the prices, keep in mind that I am building the cables completely from scratch. Each connector and contact has to be bought, every wire cut, every crimp has to be done. There are no ugly splices, no electrical tape, no soldering. If you'd like to see other work I've done, please check outhttp:// atxg4.com where I sell adapters that allow the use of ATX power supplies as replacement parts in G4 towers. I cannot build cables for Xserve G4s or Intel Xserves as they rely on their backplanes for other functions. - Paypal strongly preferred. Ypsilanti, MI 48198 Ebay: the_grim_ninja (950+, 100% positive) -Donald Hall -- Bill Christensen http://greenbuilder.com/contact/ Green Building Professionals Directory: http://directory.greenbuilder.com Sustainable Building Calendar: http://www.greenbuilder.com/calendar/ Green Real Estate: http://www.greenbuilder.com/realestate/ Straw Bale Registry: http://sbregistry.greenbuilder.com/ Books/videos/software: http://bookstore.greenbuilder.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Slightly OT: The weirdest computer cleaning question ever
Yes have you ever noticed how the foam eraser foams?-Jonas On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 7:48 PM, tonycd tonyl...@sbcglobal.net wrote: No, this I do know. I've used the Magic Eraser product repeatedly, and it definitely works solely through solvent action -- not abrasion. On Mar 25, 11:09 am, Cyrus Griffin callmemrp...@gmail.com wrote: I'm pretty sure they work simply by using a very fine grit, so they're like sand paper. I've never seen any warnings on the box, so I think whoever told you that may be mistaken. Maybe there are some brands that do use chemicals... I think the Scotch ones are best, they have a blue side for wiping off the grit left by the white sanding side. Cyrus Griffin Hobbittech.com Mac Specialist - Low Cost Mac Services in AZ On Mar 24, 2009, at 2:55 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: We buy cleaning supplies at a place here in town and they told us that there are harsh chemicals in the foam erasers that give them their cleaning power. It really isn't good for you hands. -Jonas On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Cyrus Griffin callmemrp...@gmail.com wrote: It's true! They also are great for taking scuff marks off Macs. (But not with smooth plastics, like the iMacs) I use them all the time, never use gloves not sure why you would need to. It might not work very well on cement, however, which is what I believe he was trying to remove the stain from... You could sure try, however! Cyrus Griffin Hobbittech.com Mac Specialist - Low Cost Mac Services in AZ On Mar 23, 2009, at 1:53 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Try Mr. Clean Magic Foam Erasers. Those things clean everything up. Just make sure you use rubber gloves. -Jonas On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Steve R mailing.lists.2...@gmail.com wrote: At 7:49 AM -0700 3/23/09, Mel posted: Is this product sold in the states (USA)? The link shows only Canadian stores. Mel solution with australian tea tree oil in it -- Home Hardware's Natura spray cleaner -- and discovered that the day old coffee stain wasn't the only thing it wiped from the desk. The set-in ink stain disappeared too. http://www.homehardware.ca/Products/index/show/product/I4580929/name/... http://www.homehardware.ca/Products/index/show/product/I4580929/name/... I'm sure the reason the cleaner works is because of the main ingredient, australian tee tree oil, so I'd imagine similar products are being sold in the US. (I've also found it works great on shower enclosures and glass, lime scale and removing coffee stains from a rug. It 'almost' removed black marker and probably will next time around or if I can find someone who hasn't torn both rotator cuffs to do the scrubbing.) My sister's friend turned me on to it because the strokes have lessened my strength and I needed a stronger cleaner. Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Looking for recommendations for folder compare program
I've got my MP3 library (3500+ files) on two different Windows machines (it's a long story). Over time, I know that files have been added and/or changed on both machines. But, for the most part, the libraries (folder contents) are the same. I'm looking to merge them together into one place. Where that will ultimately reside remains to be seen. I'm thinking of making my MDD a 'media server' of sorts. To my point... I know there are folder/file comparison programs for Windows. Some are good, some are barely adequate. Can someone recommend a good (free) Mac (Tiger compatible) program that could do the job? Remember, these are MP3's... so if there's a program specifically designed for this kind of thing (e.g. being able to see the ID tags of files, or play the files, etc.) that would be even better. After I have consolidated the files into one location, I will then take on the daunting task of tagging (and retagging) the files and embedding album artwork. The album artwork piece may be made easier with the use of some programs suggested by Bruce Johnson. Thanks for those, Bruce. Lonnie. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Looking for recommendations for folder compare program
On Mar 26, 1:34 am, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: iTunes? Assuming these Windows folders are the original .mp3 files only, and no extra data files, you can merge them on your Mac by dropping the contents into a common folder and when it asks to Don't Replace,Stop or Replace a previous version, check the box Apply to all and the Don't Replace button. This will result in a merged superset of both folders. The problem with this method, I think, would be that newer versions of a file (maybe I edited a tag) could exist in either location. I don't want to blindly replace files. It would be nice to see which files, at a glance, I need to give special consideration to. To organize these, you'd need to know beforehand whether or not the ID3 tags are somewhat complete or not. If these .mp3 files are NOT tagged correctly, but are organized in some untagged format, for example, some songs might use the track # in the title even though the track # tag is incomplete. In this case you'll want to be VERY CAREFUL with adding these .mp3 files to a program like iTunes, otherwise you may end up with and unsorted mess of songs with no tags. A large group of these untagged songs can be nearly impossible to sort out. Better to add these slowly so you can add the tags when you know exactly which artist/album they came from originally. In the past, when I had the time, I had started tagging files. I have two folders, Updated and Not Updated. For the most part, if a file is in the Updated folder, then I've already tagged it. There aren't individual Artist or Album folders within these folders. That just seems like too much clutter for me. My file name convention is simple: Artist - Title. (Let the tag handle the rest.) I think I've done a pretty thorough job at tagging them. I can usually locate and play a track in WinAmp in about 5 seconds. Ultimately, I want to get all of the files that are in the Not Updated folder moved into the Updated folder. If the files ARE tagged already, you can dump the whole shebang into iTunes. If you've selected the iTunes PreferenceAdvancedKeep my music organized (is the default), iTunes will copy all the files into a MusiciTunesiTunes Music folder. This will duplicate all files, so after this import process completes, you can trash the original files/folders, unless you want complete duplicates on your HD, which is a waste of space in my opinion. I don't think I'll be importing the tracks into iTunes. I'll use the tracks from one common location where all the machines (Windows and Macs) can get to them (read only). If you decide to use iTunes to organize your .mp3's, there is also the iTunesFileShow Duplicates which will show all duplicate tracks within your iTunes catalog. You can then delete any duplicates you have, but, BE CAREFUL, sometimes many different albums have the identical track, and there is no provision in iTunes for keeping a single copy of that track and using alias' as placeholders in other albums. This means it's normally better to keep duplicate tracks if they occur in different albums. Yes, I've seen/used iTunes Show Duplicates a couple of times. It actually found dups. I'll have to remember that one. I know what you mean about a track being on multiple albums. Hmm... This track is on this album (and I have the complete album) AND it's also on this soundtrack (which I also have all of). Where does it belong? Sometimes a duplicate is necessary for completeness of both albums. A necessary evil. Lonnie. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Looking for recommendations for folder compare program
On Mar 26, 2009, at 2:04 AM, lrbarrios wrote: I don't think I'll be importing the tracks into iTunes. I'll use the tracks from one common location where all the machines (Windows and Macs) can get to them (read only). Yes, this is a good idea for non-duplication of tracks, but it's also going to mean that each computer will have it's own index, and that adding files might be a real hassle since new tracks will need to be separately indexed on each computer with access to the common repository. I'd think a better solution would be to have iTunes on the server, and let it import and keep organized all the music there on the server, and then allow iTunes Sharing with other computers so that this common iTunes library is available to all the other computers without them having to separately index the available tracks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Powermac digital audio drive failures - HELP!!!
For use as my personal server I have a Digital Audio Powermac G4 533MHZ. 250GB, 80GB, 80GB 60GB HD's. 1.25GB Ram. Weird things are happening. I was watching a movie and the screensaver started. I started the movie and again and it didn't do it again. Then tonight I was going to copy a dvd and i went to the program and in the process of scanning the dvd in the drive it froze up. So I force quit and then it wouldn't open again. Then i relaunched the finder which also completely froze up. I Did a hard restart and when it started up i opened the program to copy the dvd. It opened but showed no dvd drive. then i realized that the dvd drive and the hard drive that share the same onboard ATA were not there! I restarted again. Nothing. I have verified that the dvdrw drive isn't getting power or at least i can't open it. Help would be greatly appreciated. I am actually going to be replacing this computer with and Xserve soon.-Jonas --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Powermac digital audio drive failures - HELP!!!
If the hard drive has gone bad and the optical drive is the only device on the bus then the cable position and/or master/slave/cs jumpers on the optical drive may need to be reset in order for the drive to be recognized. The same would apply to the hard drive if it is the DVD drive that has gone bad, but generally hard drives are more likely to fail. I'd try unplugging the hard drive, putting the DVD drive on the last cable connector with the jumpers set as Master and see what happens. On Mar 26, 4:23 am, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: For use as my personal server I have a Digital Audio Powermac G4 533MHZ. 250GB, 80GB, 80GB 60GB HD's. 1.25GB Ram. Weird things are happening. I was watching a movie and the screensaver started. I started the movie and again and it didn't do it again. Then tonight I was going to copy a dvd and i went to the program and in the process of scanning the dvd in the drive it froze up. So I force quit and then it wouldn't open again. Then i relaunched the finder which also completely froze up. I Did a hard restart and when it started up i opened the program to copy the dvd. It opened but showed no dvd drive. then i realized that the dvd drive and the hard drive that share the same onboard ATA were not there! I restarted again. Nothing. I have verified that the dvdrw drive isn't getting power or at least i can't open it. Help would be greatly appreciated. I am actually going to be replacing this computer with and Xserve soon.-Jonas --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Powermac digital audio drive failures - HELP!!!
I do know from experience though that even if it isn't jumpered right the drive will still open... unless of course it is the dvdrw... I will try that when i get home.-Jonas On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 5:43 AM, dc dbc...@verizon.net wrote: If the hard drive has gone bad and the optical drive is the only device on the bus then the cable position and/or master/slave/cs jumpers on the optical drive may need to be reset in order for the drive to be recognized. The same would apply to the hard drive if it is the DVD drive that has gone bad, but generally hard drives are more likely to fail. I'd try unplugging the hard drive, putting the DVD drive on the last cable connector with the jumpers set as Master and see what happens. On Mar 26, 4:23 am, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: For use as my personal server I have a Digital Audio Powermac G4 533MHZ. 250GB, 80GB, 80GB 60GB HD's. 1.25GB Ram. Weird things are happening. I was watching a movie and the screensaver started. I started the movie and again and it didn't do it again. Then tonight I was going to copy a dvd and i went to the program and in the process of scanning the dvd in the drive it froze up. So I force quit and then it wouldn't open again. Then i relaunched the finder which also completely froze up. I Did a hard restart and when it started up i opened the program to copy the dvd. It opened but showed no dvd drive. then i realized that the dvd drive and the hard drive that share the same onboard ATA were not there! I restarted again. Nothing. I have verified that the dvdrw drive isn't getting power or at least i can't open it. Help would be greatly appreciated. I am actually going to be replacing this computer with and Xserve soon.-Jonas --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Powermac digital audio drive failures - HELP!!!
Jonas Ulrich wrote: For use as my personal server I have a Digital Audio Powermac G4 533MHZ. 250GB, 80GB, 80GB 60GB HD's. 1.25GB Ram. Weird things are happening. I was watching a movie and the screensaver started. I started the movie and again and it didn't do it again. Then tonight I was going to copy a dvd and i went to the program and in the process of scanning the dvd in the drive it froze up. So I force quit and then it wouldn't open again. Then i relaunched the finder which also completely froze up. I Did a hard restart and when it started up i opened the program to copy the dvd. It opened but showed no dvd drive. then i realized that the dvd drive and the hard drive that share the same onboard ATA were not there! I restarted again. Nothing. I have verified that the dvdrw drive isn't getting power or at least i can't open it. Help would be greatly appreciated. I am actually going to be replacing this computer with and Xserve soon. -Jonas Try doing a shutdown and start up. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Powermac digital audio drive failures - HELP!!!
As i noted in my original post i've done that twice.-Jonas On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: Jonas Ulrich wrote: For use as my personal server I have a Digital Audio Powermac G4 533MHZ. 250GB, 80GB, 80GB 60GB HD's. 1.25GB Ram. Weird things are happening. I was watching a movie and the screensaver started. I started the movie and again and it didn't do it again. Then tonight I was going to copy a dvd and i went to the program and in the process of scanning the dvd in the drive it froze up. So I force quit and then it wouldn't open again. Then i relaunched the finder which also completely froze up. I Did a hard restart and when it started up i opened the program to copy the dvd. It opened but showed no dvd drive. then i realized that the dvd drive and the hard drive that share the same onboard ATA were not there! I restarted again. Nothing. I have verified that the dvdrw drive isn't getting power or at least i can't open it. Help would be greatly appreciated. I am actually going to be replacing this computer with and Xserve soon. -Jonas Try doing a shutdown and start up. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
OS X Server 10.4 v's OS X Client 10.5 for home server
Hi All I'm setting up a home server (Xserve G4) to act as my main server for data, itunes, web hosting and possibly mail etc. given the choice between OS X Server 10.4 and OS X Client 10.5 which would you choose? I really like the OS X server management tools as they make monitoring and administrating the server incredibly easy but 10.4 doesn't have Time machine , lack of budget is what's preventing me from choosing OS X Server 10.5. What do you think? Yours Ian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Powermac digital audio drive failures - HELP!!!
Jonas Ulrich wrote: As i noted in my original post i've done that twice. -Jonas On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net mailto:cm...@sonic.net wrote: Jonas Ulrich wrote: For use as my personal server I have a Digital Audio Powermac G4 533MHZ. 250GB, 80GB, 80GB 60GB HD's. 1.25GB Ram. Weird things are happening. I was watching a movie and the screensaver started. I started the movie and again and it didn't do it again. Then tonight I was going to copy a dvd and i went to the program and in the process of scanning the dvd in the drive it froze up. So I force quit and then it wouldn't open again. Then i relaunched the finder which also completely froze up. I Did a hard restart and when it started up i opened the program to copy the dvd. It opened but showed no dvd drive. then i realized that the dvd drive and the hard drive that share the same onboard ATA were not there! I restarted again. Nothing. I have verified that the dvdrw drive isn't getting power or at least i can't open it. Help would be greatly appreciated. I am actually going to be replacing this computer with and Xserve soon. -Jonas Try doing a shutdown and start up. You say you've restarted, I'm suggesting you shut it down, power off. There is a difference. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Worms in clear plastic keyboard
Worms in clear plastic keyboard It was a surprise to find upon inspection of the underside of the clear plastic keyboard that indeed worms have invaded it. More specifically, I would guess they are maggots – God I hade maggots! Anyway, what should I do about these yucky things resident in my keyboard? Please help, as I don’t even want to type on it any more!!! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Powermac digital audio drive failures - HELP!!!
I will try that... I did look in the profiler and nothing on that ata showed up. On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: Jonas Ulrich wrote: As i noted in my original post i've done that twice. -Jonas On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net mailto:cm...@sonic.net wrote: Jonas Ulrich wrote: For use as my personal server I have a Digital Audio Powermac G4 533MHZ. 250GB, 80GB, 80GB 60GB HD's. 1.25GB Ram. Weird things are happening. I was watching a movie and the screensaver started. I started the movie and again and it didn't do it again. Then tonight I was going to copy a dvd and i went to the program and in the process of scanning the dvd in the drive it froze up. So I force quit and then it wouldn't open again. Then i relaunched the finder which also completely froze up. I Did a hard restart and when it started up i opened the program to copy the dvd. It opened but showed no dvd drive. then i realized that the dvd drive and the hard drive that share the same onboard ATA were not there! I restarted again. Nothing. I have verified that the dvdrw drive isn't getting power or at least i can't open it. Help would be greatly appreciated. I am actually going to be replacing this computer with and Xserve soon. -Jonas Try doing a shutdown and start up. You say you've restarted, I'm suggesting you shut it down, power off. There is a difference. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Worms in clear plastic keyboard
(1) Locate the nearest garbage can. Place keyboard in garbage can.(2) Take keyboard apart (keyboard will most likely be destroyed in the process.) Clean keyboard. Keyboards were never meant to be cleaned... I would simply advise getting a new keyboard as there is a reason you have maggots in it. -Jonas On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com wrote: Worms in clear plastic keyboard It was a surprise to find upon inspection of the underside of the clear plastic keyboard that indeed worms have invaded it. More specifically, I would guess they are maggots – God I hade maggots! Anyway, what should I do about these yucky things resident in my keyboard? Please help, as I don’t even want to type on it any more!!! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrade to Leopard leaves mailboxes empty
On Mar 25, 2009, at 10:20 PM, Tom wrote: Well, that fix wouldn't have worked for me, because I couldn't have logged in as a guest--your Mac has to be on a network to do that, doesn't it? Creating and logging on as a new user would accomplish the same thing. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS X Server 10.4 v's OS X Client 10.5 for home server
This is good. I was just about to post a question exactly like this. I am in the same boat. I just bought two Xserve G4's and have the same question. -Jonas On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Mar 26, 2009, at 10:07 AM, Expat wrote: Hi All I'm setting up a home server (Xserve G4) to act as my main server for data, itunes, web hosting and possibly mail etc. given the choice between OS X Server 10.4 and OS X Client 10.5 which would you choose? I think that the difference between Client OS X and Server OSX is that the AFP file server in client is limited to only 10 connections, and it does not support mapping home directories to remote clients. As a file server alone, though it should work, and there are no limitations on SMB shares. Postfix and Apache are both present, so you could set OSX Client as a mail server and web server; you're also free to install other versions of those, which would not be subject to any OSX limitations. For Web I'd actually recommend XAMPP, it makes getting Apache, PHP, PERL, and Mysql all plug-n-play http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html We ue XAMPP for our production server setup for the College, it works great. You also don't get the nifty management tools you get with OS X Server. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: dvd to dvd is there a simple way?
On Mar 25, 2009, at 8:11 PM, MacGuy wrote: See: http://www.slashdotdash.net/2006/08/14/create-iso-cd-dvd-image-with-mac-os-x-tiger-10-4/ Kris, will the directions on the website work in Leopard too? Jeff Disk Utility is a GUI version of the command-line diskutil program, more or less. There is no difference between using diskutil and using Disk Utility in the finder; both use the same underlying libraries. FWIW, I've never had any problem making bootable disk images in OS X Disk Utility, since version 10.1.5, in fact. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Worms in clear plastic keyboard
Jonas Ulrich wrote: (1) Locate the nearest garbage can. Place keyboard in garbage can. (2) Take keyboard apart (keyboard will most likely be destroyed in the process.) Clean keyboard. Keyboards were never meant to be cleaned... I would simply advise getting a new keyboard as there is a reason you have maggots in it. I'd go further and suggest you investigate your whole computer area. I can't see much reason for some insect lay it's eggs in your keyboard. It's a little warm, that's the only thing I can think of. Is there something around that might be attracting the parent insect? -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS X Server 10.4 v's OS X Client 10.5 for home server
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 26, 2009, at 10:07 AM, Expat wrote: Hi All I'm setting up a home server (Xserve G4) to act as my main server for data, itunes, web hosting and possibly mail etc. given the choice between OS X Server 10.4 and OS X Client 10.5 which would you choose? I think that the difference between Client OS X and Server OSX is that the AFP file server in client is limited to only 10 connections, and it does not support mapping home directories to remote clients. Under OS 9, File Sharing was always severely throttled in comparison to AppleShare Server. I think the same is true in OS X but I've never seen confirmation of that. As a file server alone, though it should work, and there are no limitations on SMB shares. Postfix and Apache are both present, so you could set OSX Client as a mail server and web server; you're also free to install other versions of those, which would not be subject to any OSX limitations. For Web I'd actually recommend XAMPP, it makes getting Apache, PHP, PERL, and Mysql all plug-n-play http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html We ue XAMPP for our production server setup for the College, it works great. My home server is (client) Leopard on a Digital Audio G4. I have DHCP and BIND (DNS) running on it and I'm using Webmin to control them. Webmin is an HTTP based front end for a number of server apps. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Installing 3rd Party Drivers under OS X 10.5.6
Dan ... On Mar 25, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Dan wrote: At 2:00 PM -0400 3/25/2009, insightinmind wrote: On Mar 25, 2009, at 1:12 PM, Dan wrote: While indexing yesterday, I got a kp. Sibelius suggested removing SibeliusScore.mdimporter from its app package. Simple enough. Now no kps due to that, but could feel loss of capability of Spotlight along with this solution. The kernel panics were not caused by that importer. Those were simple spotlight indexing crashes. Two separate issues. Now that you've pulled that importer, it might be worth erasing your spotlight index, and letting it rebuild cleanly. Just be sure that while your Mac is rebuilding the index, don't logout or let it sleep. heh. Actually, might be better to just not use it - so you don't kp from a video or m-audio problem. Maybe replace the Sibelius importer, and run CocktailLE for Leopard to erase the index files, and see if new ones solve the problems? Joke the fancy tools. Just issue the mdutil commands yourself. sudo mdutil -i off /Volumes/fred sudo mdutil -E /Volumes/fred sudo mdutil -i on /Volumes/fred I was/am hoping to just let Spotlight run, but at times I may have done (probably) a Restart before it had finished. I think I want to let it run, and run to completion, so I can use my OS and apps as normal ... whatever that is. Absolutely let Spotlight finish its indexing before interrupting it in any way. Spotlight is *known* to corrupt indices when interrupted. You can tell it's finished because all the md* processes have idled or ended. I replaced the SibeliusScore.mdimporter and I did the suggested sudo mdutil commands and re-Indexed everything. Seeing that I was having trouble with a particular Font folder, contained in an old Photoscore 3.1 installation on my APPS partition, I deleted this installation and ran the re-Indexing again on that APPS partition. Still showing a problem with Sibelius 5 indexing. Have another e-mail in to Sibelius Tech folks. This seemed to release a myriad of issues with coreaudio and other things, that have me perplexed as to how to proceed. Also got a system pause (Blue Screen) that resolved in about 5 minutes, and seemed to be pausing at a Public folder ... was this because I have File Sharing On and it was waiting for my other computer to come up (which it did while I was waiting for the Blue Screen to possibly resolve on its own)? How do I send my system.log-s to someone who requests them? The bulk of them are located in /var/log/samba , but that seems to be invisible, except to Console? Is there a Show Invisible FIles checkbox somewhere? Thanks. This all sounds so pathetic at present ... You can uncross those fingers for awhile ... Bill --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Worms in clear plastic keyboard
On 3/26/09, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: (1) Locate the nearest garbage can. Place keyboard in garbage can. At least recycle it! Most scrap yards I have dealt with will take electronics and you'd get a little money in the process (2) Take keyboard apart (keyboard will most likely be destroyed in the process.) Clean keyboard. I have opened up and blown out (the dust inside) many a KB Keyboards were never meant to be cleaned... I would simply advise getting a new keyboard as there is a reason you have maggots in it. -Jonas -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Installing 3rd Party Drivers under OS X 10.5.6
Resending ... didn't seem to go out (come back) ... Dan ... On Mar 25, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Dan wrote: At 2:00 PM -0400 3/25/2009, insightinmind wrote: On Mar 25, 2009, at 1:12 PM, Dan wrote: While indexing yesterday, I got a kp. Sibelius suggested removing SibeliusScore.mdimporter from its app package. Simple enough. Now no kps due to that, but could feel loss of capability of Spotlight along with this solution. The kernel panics were not caused by that importer. Those were simple spotlight indexing crashes. Two separate issues. Now that you've pulled that importer, it might be worth erasing your spotlight index, and letting it rebuild cleanly. Just be sure that while your Mac is rebuilding the index, don't logout or let it sleep. heh. Actually, might be better to just not use it - so you don't kp from a video or m-audio problem. Maybe replace the Sibelius importer, and run CocktailLE for Leopard to erase the index files, and see if new ones solve the problems? Joke the fancy tools. Just issue the mdutil commands yourself. sudo mdutil -i off /Volumes/fred sudo mdutil -E /Volumes/fred sudo mdutil -i on /Volumes/fred I was/am hoping to just let Spotlight run, but at times I may have done (probably) a Restart before it had finished. I think I want to let it run, and run to completion, so I can use my OS and apps as normal ... whatever that is. Absolutely let Spotlight finish its indexing before interrupting it in any way. Spotlight is *known* to corrupt indices when interrupted. You can tell it's finished because all the md* processes have idled or ended. I replaced the SibeliusScore.mdimporter and I did the suggested sudo mdutil commands and re-Indexed everything. Seeing that I was having trouble with a particular Font folder, contained in an old Photoscore 3.1 installation on my APPS partition, I deleted this installation and ran the re-Indexing again on that APPS partition. Still showing a problem with Sibelius 5 indexing. Have another e-mail in to Sibelius Tech folks. This seemed to release a myriad of issues with coreaudio and other things, that have me perplexed as to how to proceed. Also got a system pause (Blue Screen) that resolved in about 5 minutes, and seemed to be pausing at a Public folder ... was this because I have File Sharing On and it was waiting for my other computer to come up (which it did while I was waiting for the Blue Screen to possibly resolve on its own)? How do I send my system.log-s to someone who requests them? The bulk of them are located in /var/log/samba , but that seems to be invisible, except to Console? Is there a Show Invisible FIles checkbox somewhere? Thanks. This all sounds so pathetic at present ... You can uncross those fingers for awhile ... Bill --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Worms in clear plastic keyboard
Yes definitely recycle it.-Jonas On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/26/09, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: (1) Locate the nearest garbage can. Place keyboard in garbage can. At least recycle it! Most scrap yards I have dealt with will take electronics and you'd get a little money in the process (2) Take keyboard apart (keyboard will most likely be destroyed in the process.) Clean keyboard. I have opened up and blown out (the dust inside) many a KB Keyboards were never meant to be cleaned... I would simply advise getting a new keyboard as there is a reason you have maggots in it. -Jonas -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Worms in clear plastic keyboard
On Mar 26, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Clark Martin wrote: I'd go further and suggest you investigate your whole computer area. I can't see much reason for some insect lay it's eggs in your keyboard. It's a little warm, that's the only thing I can think of. Is there something around that might be attracting the parent insect? Those white keyboards with the clear bases are notorious crumb catchers for anyone who eats at their desk. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Green hard drives
Now that more manufacturers are coming out with the so-called 'green' drives, and since there is a current thread on servers, I'm wondering if green drives are counter-intuitive for those wanting to upgrade servers that are rarely in an idle mode? Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Worms in clear plastic keyboard
At 1:06 PM -0600 3/26/09, Stephen Conrad posted: On 3/26/09, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: (1) Locate the nearest garbage can. Place keyboard in garbage can. At least recycle it! Most scrap yards I have dealt with will take electronics and you'd get a little money in the process (2) Take keyboard apart (keyboard will most likely be destroyed in the process.) Clean keyboard. I have opened up and blown out (the dust inside) many a KB Keyboards were never meant to be cleaned... I would simply advise getting a new keyboard as there is a reason you have maggots in it. -Jonas I've taken keyboards apart for cleaning, even running the various components under running water after taking a toothbrush to various parts. Leave them to drain and dry for at least 24 hours. And stop eating at the desk. Stand over the sink like the rest of us. Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Green hard drives
On Mar 26, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Steve R wrote: Now that more manufacturers are coming out with the so-called 'green' drives, and since there is a current thread on servers, I'm wondering if green drives are counter-intuitive for those wanting to upgrade servers that are rarely in an idle mode? Much of the current work towards robust and large capacity small drives has been driven by people wanting to reduce heat/power loads in servers. It all depends on how these manufacturers define 'green' low power or sleep a lot?; I confess I've not seen what you're talking about, have any examples? -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
How do you sent an application as attachment to email?
How do you sent an application as attachment to email? Sorry to bother, but I have a very old application that I want to be able to send to a friend via email attachment. I forgot how to do this. please remind me. Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Worms in clear plastic keyboard
Honestly, I would just dump that thing in the nearest trash can. Peter M. Sent from my mobile device -Original Message- From: Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:40:53 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Worms in clear plastic keyboard It might be the larvae of moths, sometimes found in bird seed. Been feeding birds, lately? Maggots would probably only be found where there's decaying meat ... Where flies have laid eggs ... Not a zoologist ... just from observing my birdseed and trash cans ... On Mar 26, 2009, at 1:23 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote: Worms in clear plastic keyboard It was a surprise to find upon inspection of the underside of the clear plastic keyboard that indeed worms have invaded it. More specifically, I would guess they are maggots – God I hade maggots! Anyway, what should I do about these yucky things resident in my keyboard? Please help, as I don’t even want to type on it any more!!! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Installing 3rd Party Drivers under OS X 10.5.6
At 12:43 PM -0700 3/26/09, Bruce Johnson posted: On Mar 26, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: Is there a Show Invisible FIles checkbox somewhere? In Finder, Command-F, after the Finder window opens, the default (on mine) is Kind is Any -- follow that bar over to the far right, click on the + option. Choose File Visibility, or my usual is System files. Choose invisible/visible. Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Green hard drives
At 1:16 PM -0700 3/26/09, Bruce Johnson posted: On Mar 26, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Steve R wrote: Now that more manufacturers are coming out with the so-called 'green' drives, and since there is a current thread on servers, I'm wondering if green drives are counter-intuitive for those wanting to upgrade servers that are rarely in an idle mode? Much of the current work towards robust and large capacity small drives has been driven by people wanting to reduce heat/power loads in servers. It all depends on how these manufacturers define 'green' low power or sleep a lot?; I confess I've not seen what you're talking about, have any examples? http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=4426054sku=TSD-1000EADScm_sp=Footer-_-Spot%2005-_-CatId_8_TSD-1000EADS WD has reduced power consumption by up to 40 percent compared to standard desktop drives with the combination of WD's IntelliSeek , IntelliPark , and IntelliPower technologies. ... etc All of which sound great for a drive that isn't constantly being written to, but if the drive is being constantly used, all the Intelli's wouldn't have a chance to kick in? Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How do you sent an application as attachment to email?
On Mar 26, 2009, at 1:23 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote: How do you sent an application as attachment to email? Sorry to bother, but I have a very old application that I want to be able to send to a friend via email attachment. I forgot how to do this. please remind me. Thanks Zip or stuff it up first. In OS X you can control (or right)-click on an application and select 'compress object name', on OS 9 and older you would probably use DropStuff. very VERY old mail applications would then also require you to binhex it, but modern mail apps all handle MIME encoding just fine. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Green hard drives
On Mar 26, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Steve R wrote: At 1:16 PM -0700 3/26/09, Bruce Johnson posted: On Mar 26, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Steve R wrote: Now that more manufacturers are coming out with the so-called 'green' drives, and since there is a current thread on servers, I'm wondering if green drives are counter-intuitive for those wanting to upgrade servers that are rarely in an idle mode? Much of the current work towards robust and large capacity small drives has been driven by people wanting to reduce heat/power loads in servers. It all depends on how these manufacturers define 'green' low power or sleep a lot?; I confess I've not seen what you're talking about, have any examples? http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=4426054sku=TSD-1000EADScm_sp=Footer-_-Spot%2005-_-CatId_8_TSD-1000EADS WD has reduced power consumption by up to 40 percent compared to standard desktop drives with the combination of WD's IntelliSeek , IntelliPark , and IntelliPower technologies. ... etc All of which sound great for a drive that isn't constantly being written to, but if the drive is being constantly used, all the Intelli's wouldn't have a chance to kick in? True, this is why on the enterprise end they've been working on things like 2.5 SAS drives http://tinyurl.com/dh7gje. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Green hard drives
At 1:55 PM -0700 3/26/09, Bruce Johnson posted: On Mar 26, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Steve R wrote: At 1:16 PM -0700 3/26/09, Bruce Johnson posted: On Mar 26, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Steve R wrote: Now that more manufacturers are coming out with the so-called 'green' drives, and since there is a current thread on servers, I'm wondering if green drives are counter-intuitive for those wanting to upgrade servers that are rarely in an idle mode? Much of the current work towards robust and large capacity small drives has been driven by people wanting to reduce heat/power loads in servers. It all depends on how these manufacturers define 'green' low power or sleep a lot?; I confess I've not seen what you're talking about, have any examples? http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=4426054sku=TSD-1000EADScm_sp=Footer-_-Spot%2005-_-CatId_8_TSD-1000EADS WD has reduced power consumption by up to 40 percent compared to standard desktop drives with the combination of WD's IntelliSeek , IntelliPark , and IntelliPower technologies. ... etc All of which sound great for a drive that isn't constantly being written to, but if the drive is being constantly used, all the Intelli's wouldn't have a chance to kick in? True, this is why on the enterprise end they've been working on things like 2.5 SAS drives http://tinyurl.com/dh7gje. Interesting read... thanks. Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrade to Leopard leaves mailboxes empty
Kris, to answer your questions, this Mac that had all the Mail trouble after the Panther upgrade is a dual 2.0 G5 with 8 GB of RAM. The instructions that come with the upgrade don't specifically recommend backing things up beforehand, although I agree that's always a good thing to do. Likewise the demo of Panther on the Apple website just says to pop in the upgrade disk and let 'er go. I already had backed up what I considered the most important things (photos, videos, documents) onto external hard drives, but of course I never thought about mailboxes, and that's what I lost some of. In Mail, if you delete a mailbox, it doesn't go into the Finder Trash, where you have a chance to retrieve it. When you delete a mailbox, Mail asks you if that's what you really want to do, because it deletes it for good, and it can't be undone. I had so many old empty mailboxes to get rid of that I tried to select and delete them in batches, and one of my batch selections must have included some of the mailboxes that had things in them. That's all I can figure might have happened. At any rate, they sure vanished, and were not in the Finder Trash or anywhere else. And the ISP deletes old messages from their server after a few weeks, so I couldn't recover a lot of older correspondence that way. Gary, you have described the same problems I had with Mail after the 10.5 upgrade: Mail would not send or receive mail, and it could not be quit--it had to be force-quit. The cure, as far as I can tell, was to throw away the com. apple. mail. plist in the Preferences folder, because after trashing that .plist I could quit Mail, but as you probably know, when you throw away that .plist you lose all your settings and have to re-establish your Internet connection all over again. In my case, the help service of my ISP talked me through putting the setting back in on the phone, and then it could send and receive mail again. Now for some good news: Time Machine works. Its first attempt to copy the contents of both internal hard drives failed; after about half an hour it just quit copying. So I thought, here we go again. But the next try, it went all the way and copied everything, quite a feat since there was almost 500 GB of data on those two drives (it said it was copying nearly two million items). It took from midnight to 6 AM to complete the first backup. But now it seems to work, offering to restore data from backups from 3 PM (now) to 6 AM. So, I lost some mailbox contents, but I gained Time machine, Spaces, Quick View, etc., so I guess I came out ahead. Upgrades are always traumatic in one way or another. Tom --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How do you sent an application as attachment to email?
On Mar 26, 2009, at 1:23 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote: How do you sent an application as attachment to email? Sorry to bother, but I have a very old application that I want to be able to send to a friend via email attachment. I forgot how to do this. please remind me. Thanks Zip or stuff it up first. In OS X you can control (or right)-click on an application and select 'compress object name', on OS 9 and older you would probably use DropStuff. very VERY old mail applications would then also require you to binhex it, but modern mail apps all handle MIME encoding just fine. Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Bruce, a RtCK on the program I want to send produces only the following in 10.2.8: HELP OPEN GET INFO MOVE TO TRASH DUPLICATE MAKE ALIAS COPY FN I INTEND TO USE NETSCAPE 7.2/X10.2.8 What should I do? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How do you sent an application as attachment to email?
On Mar 26, 2009, at 2:21 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote: Bruce, a RtCK on the program I want to send produces only the following in 10.2.8: HELP OPEN GET INFO MOVE TO TRASH DUPLICATE MAKE ALIAS COPY FN I INTEND TO USE NETSCAPE 7.2/X10.2.8 What should I do? Try this http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/12816 -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How do you sent an application as attachment to email?
If for any reason you can't zip it what i do sometimes is rename the extension to like txt or rtf or something emailable.-Jonas On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Mar 26, 2009, at 2:21 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote: Bruce, a RtCK on the program I want to send produces only the following in 10.2.8: HELP OPEN GET INFO MOVE TO TRASH DUPLICATE MAKE ALIAS COPY FN I INTEND TO USE NETSCAPE 7.2/X10.2.8 What should I do? Try this http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/12816 -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Worms in clear plastic keyboard
I agree... dump the thing. Worms in your keyboard? Major Ick! Amanda On Mar 26, 2009, at 1:32 PM, Peter wrote: Honestly, I would just dump that thing in the nearest trash can. Peter M. Sent from my mobile device -Original Message- From: Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:40:53 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Worms in clear plastic keyboard It might be the larvae of moths, sometimes found in bird seed. Been feeding birds, lately? Maggots would probably only be found where there's decaying meat ... Where flies have laid eggs ... Not a zoologist ... just from observing my birdseed and trash cans ... On Mar 26, 2009, at 1:23 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote: Worms in clear plastic keyboard It was a surprise to find upon inspection of the underside of the clear plastic keyboard that indeed worms have invaded it. More specifically, I would guess they are maggots – God I hade maggots! Anyway, what should I do about these yucky things resident in my keyboard? Please help, as I don’t even want to type on it any more!!! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Worms in clear plastic keyboard
On 3/26/09 3:46 PM, Bruce Johnson of john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu sent On Mar 26, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Clark Martin wrote: I'd go further and suggest you investigate your whole computer area. I can't see much reason for some insect lay it's eggs in your keyboard. It's a little warm, that's the only thing I can think of. Is there something around that might be attracting the parent insect? Those white keyboards with the clear bases are notorious crumb catchers for anyone who eats at their desk. They are also fairly easy to open up for (deep) cleaning, if you can stomach the host of squirmies waiting for you on the other side! (my frugality flinches at the thought of just throwing it away because of a few pests - to Jonas: if they crawl, they breathe: seal the keyboard in a box that's been sprayed with insecticide - the worms will be dead in a few minutes). My 2¢ Best regards, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Looking for recommendations for folder compare program
I need to tag my mp3's, what program have you found that does a good job of this on the mac? Thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Looking for recommendations for folder compare program
I need to tag my mp3's, what program have you found that does a good job of this on the mac? Thanks. Folder Compare Program or MP3 tagging program? Your subject does not match the message body. From the subject I was going to recommend the diff command line program. - Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Installing 3rd Party Drivers under OS X 10.5.6
Apologies for the lengthy log entry, to those who aren't interested in this problem. On Mar 26, 2009, at 2:57 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: Dan ... On Mar 25, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Dan wrote: At 2:00 PM -0400 3/25/2009, insightinmind wrote: On Mar 25, 2009, at 1:12 PM, Dan wrote: While indexing yesterday, I got a kp. Sibelius suggested removing SibeliusScore.mdimporter from its app package. Simple enough. Now no kps due to that, but could feel loss of capability of Spotlight along with this solution. The kernel panics were not caused by that importer. Those were simple spotlight indexing crashes. Two separate issues. Now that you've pulled that importer, it might be worth erasing your spotlight index, and letting it rebuild cleanly. Just be sure that while your Mac is rebuilding the index, don't logout or let it sleep. heh. Actually, might be better to just not use it - so you don't kp from a video or m-audio problem I've re-Indexed my APPS partition yet again, after throwing out the Sibelius importer package, tossing a Photoscore 3.1 Installation including an (old) Fonts folder, and now a Javascript 1.5 folder I downloaded from a Developer's link for some reason awhile ago. All these were showing up as troublemakers during Spotlight re-Indexing. Now, I got a pause (Blue Screen for 5 minutes or so before resolving to Desktop) on Restart at: Mar 26 20:07:19 Moonstone-Art-Studio /System/Library/CoreServices/ coreservicesd[52]: SFLSharePointsEntry::CreateDSRecord: dsCreateRecordAndOpen(Moonstone Art Studio's Public Folder) returned -14135 Mar 26 20:12:04 Moonstone-Art-Studio SystemStarter[26]: IOKitWaitQuiet: -536870186 This Public Folder to IOKitWaitQuiet pause thing is a recurring theme. Any ideas? Perhaps not enough info in this snippet of the system.log ... So, here's from where I re-Index, then do a Restart to the end: Mar 26 18:59:08 Moonstone-Art-Studio login[525]: USER_PROCESS: 525 ttys000 Mar 26 18:59:23 Moonstone-Art-Studio sudo[535]: moonstoneartstudio : TTY=ttys000 ; PWD=/Users/moonstoneartstudio ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/ bin/mdutil -i off /Volumes/APPS Mar 26 18:59:38 Moonstone-Art-Studio sudo[537]: moonstoneartstudio : TTY=ttys000 ; PWD=/Users/moonstoneartstudio ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/ bin/mdutil -E /Volumes/APPS Mar 26 18:59:53 Moonstone-Art-Studio sudo[538]: moonstoneartstudio : TTY=ttys000 ; PWD=/Users/moonstoneartstudio ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/ bin/mdutil -i on /Volumes/APPS Mar 26 18:59:57 Moonstone-Art-Studio login[525]: DEAD_PROCESS: 525 ttys000 Mar 26 19:27:18 Moonstone-Art-Studio kernel[0]: USBF: 20079.553 DELTA: iTotalBufSize = 40959 Mar 26 20:00:56 Moonstone-Art-Studio loginwindow[447]: DEAD_PROCESS: 0 console Mar 26 20:00:57 Moonstone-Art-Studio shutdown[592]: reboot by moonstoneartstudio: Mar 26 20:00:57 Moonstone-Art-Studio com.apple.loginwindow[447]: Shutdown NOW! Mar 26 20:00:57 Moonstone-Art-Studio mDNSResponder mDNSResponder-176.3 (Sep 30 2008 16:59:41)[16]: stopping Mar 26 20:00:57 Moonstone-Art-Studio com.apple.loginwindow[447]: System shutdown time has arrived^G^G Mar 26 20:00:57 Moonstone-Art-Studio SystemStarter[26]: The following StartupItems failed to properly start: Mar 26 20:01:56 localhost kernel[0]: Darwin Kernel Version 9.6.0: Mon Nov 24 17:39:01 PST 2008; root:xnu-1228.9.59~1/RELEASE_PPC Mar 26 20:01:56 localhost com.apple.launchctl.System[2]: launchctl: Please convert the following to launchd: /etc/mach_init.d/ dashboardadvisoryd.plist Mar 26 20:01:56 localhost com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.blued): Unknown key for boolean: EnableTransactions Mar 26 20:01:56 localhost com.apple.launchd[1] (org.cups.cupsd): Unknown key: SHAuthorizationRight Mar 26 20:01:56 localhost com.apple.launchd[1] (org.ntp.ntpd): Unknown key: SHAuthorizationRight Mar 26 20:01:56 localhost DirectoryService[11]: Launched version 5.6 (v514.24) Mar 26 20:01:56 localhost kernel[0]: standard timeslicing quantum is 1 us Mar 26 20:01:56 localhost kernel[0]: vm_page_bootstrap: 381843 free pages and 11373 wired pages Mar 26 20:01:56 localhost kernel[0]: mig_table_max_displ = 79 Mar 26 20:01:56 localhost kernel[0]: 83 prelinked modules Mar 26 20:01:56 localhost kernel[0]: Loading security extension com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet Mar 26 20:01:56 localhost kernel[0]: calling mpo_policy_init for TMSafetyNet Mar 26 20:01:56 localhost kernel[0]: Security policy loaded: Safety net for Time Machine (TMSafetyNet) Mar 26 20:01:56 localhost kernel[0]: Loading security extension com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall Mar 26 20:01:56 localhost kernel[0]: Loading security extension com.apple.security.seatbelt Mar 26 20:01:56 localhost kernel[0]: calling mpo_policy_init for mb Mar 26 20:01:56 localhost kernel[0]: Seatbelt MACF policy initialized Mar 26 20:01:56 localhost kernel[0]: Security policy loaded: Seatbelt Policy (mb) Mar 26 20:01:56 localhost kernel[0]: Copyright (c) 1982,
Re: Powermac digital audio drive failures - HELP!!!
Clark - I shut it down then started it back up. Now the hard drive and dvdrw work! Is this whole thing something that I should worry about i mean we have figured out that it isn't the drives and that it is the computer itself... I do run the computer constantly, but it had only been running for like 4 days.-Jonas On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.comwrote: I will try that... I did look in the profiler and nothing on that ata showed up. On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: Jonas Ulrich wrote: As i noted in my original post i've done that twice. -Jonas On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net mailto:cm...@sonic.net wrote: Jonas Ulrich wrote: For use as my personal server I have a Digital Audio Powermac G4 533MHZ. 250GB, 80GB, 80GB 60GB HD's. 1.25GB Ram. Weird things are happening. I was watching a movie and the screensaver started. I started the movie and again and it didn't do it again. Then tonight I was going to copy a dvd and i went to the program and in the process of scanning the dvd in the drive it froze up. So I force quit and then it wouldn't open again. Then i relaunched the finder which also completely froze up. I Did a hard restart and when it started up i opened the program to copy the dvd. It opened but showed no dvd drive. then i realized that the dvd drive and the hard drive that share the same onboard ATA were not there! I restarted again. Nothing. I have verified that the dvdrw drive isn't getting power or at least i can't open it. Help would be greatly appreciated. I am actually going to be replacing this computer with and Xserve soon. -Jonas Try doing a shutdown and start up. You say you've restarted, I'm suggesting you shut it down, power off. There is a difference. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS X Server 10.4 v's OS X Client 10.5 for home server
Clark Martin wrote: Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 26, 2009, at 10:07 AM, Expat wrote: Hi All I'm setting up a home server (Xserve G4) to act as my main server for data, itunes, web hosting and possibly mail etc. given the choice between OS X Server 10.4 and OS X Client 10.5 which would you choose? I think that the difference between Client OS X and Server OSX is that the AFP file server in client is limited to only 10 connections, and it does not support mapping home directories to remote clients. Under OS 9, File Sharing was always severely throttled in comparison to AppleShare Server. I think the same is true in OS X but I've never seen confirmation of that. As a file server alone, though it should work, and there are no limitations on SMB shares. Postfix and Apache are both present, so you could set OSX Client as a mail server and web server; you're also free to install other versions of those, which would not be subject to any OSX limitations. For Web I'd actually recommend XAMPP, it makes getting Apache, PHP, PERL, and Mysql all plug-n-play http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html We ue XAMPP for our production server setup for the College, it works great. My home server is (client) Leopard on a Digital Audio G4. I have DHCP and BIND (DNS) running on it and I'm using Webmin to control them. Webmin is an HTTP based front end for a number of server apps. I don't have an xserve but do have a Sawtooth that I'd like to put to use the same way the OP is desiring. I think this thread should be kept alive so we can all learn about running a dedicated server on OS X. I'm getting tired of the multi platform computing at home and would like to go complete mac, at least for most of the time. So, let's keep this thread alive! I'd like to learn all there is to set mine up! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Powermac digital audio drive failures - HELP!!!
Jonas Ulrich wrote: Clark - I shut it down then started it back up. Now the hard drive and dvdrw work! Is this whole thing something that I should worry about i mean we have figured out that it isn't the drives and that it is the computer itself... I do run the computer constantly, but it had only been running for like 4 days. Sometimes when the computer freezes or has other problems the power management hardware gets in an confused state. The software can't always clear it. Power down clears it. I've done it hundreds of times on G3 iMacs. It doesn't happen often but when it does we just got use to yanking the power cord, doing a ten count then plugging it back in and starting up again. With 200+ computers even in frequent events happen often enough. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Powermac digital audio drive failures - HELP!!!
Thanks for your help everyone! It seems to be running good now... Hope it stays that way :-).-Jonas On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: Jonas Ulrich wrote: Clark - I shut it down then started it back up. Now the hard drive and dvdrw work! Is this whole thing something that I should worry about i mean we have figured out that it isn't the drives and that it is the computer itself... I do run the computer constantly, but it had only been running for like 4 days. Sometimes when the computer freezes or has other problems the power management hardware gets in an confused state. The software can't always clear it. Power down clears it. I've done it hundreds of times on G3 iMacs. It doesn't happen often but when it does we just got use to yanking the power cord, doing a ten count then plugging it back in and starting up again. With 200+ computers even in frequent events happen often enough. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS X Server 10.4 v's OS X Client 10.5 for home server
I definitely agree. I also will need to learn about how to setup my xserve G4 DP 1.33ghz. Does anyone know if they have audio out?-Jonas On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 7:45 PM, nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: Clark Martin wrote: Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 26, 2009, at 10:07 AM, Expat wrote: Hi All I'm setting up a home server (Xserve G4) to act as my main server for data, itunes, web hosting and possibly mail etc. given the choice between OS X Server 10.4 and OS X Client 10.5 which would you choose? I think that the difference between Client OS X and Server OSX is that the AFP file server in client is limited to only 10 connections, and it does not support mapping home directories to remote clients. Under OS 9, File Sharing was always severely throttled in comparison to AppleShare Server. I think the same is true in OS X but I've never seen confirmation of that. As a file server alone, though it should work, and there are no limitations on SMB shares. Postfix and Apache are both present, so you could set OSX Client as a mail server and web server; you're also free to install other versions of those, which would not be subject to any OSX limitations. For Web I'd actually recommend XAMPP, it makes getting Apache, PHP, PERL, and Mysql all plug-n-play http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html We ue XAMPP for our production server setup for the College, it works great. My home server is (client) Leopard on a Digital Audio G4. I have DHCP and BIND (DNS) running on it and I'm using Webmin to control them. Webmin is an HTTP based front end for a number of server apps. I don't have an xserve but do have a Sawtooth that I'd like to put to use the same way the OP is desiring. I think this thread should be kept alive so we can all learn about running a dedicated server on OS X. I'm getting tired of the multi platform computing at home and would like to go complete mac, at least for most of the time. So, let's keep this thread alive! I'd like to learn all there is to set mine up! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Sound card for Mac??
I will soon be getting an xserve g4 and will be wanting to put a sound card in it. Is this possible and if so were would i buy one?-Jonas --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS X Server 10.4 v's OS X Client 10.5 for home server
No they don't. On Mar 26, 10:03 pm, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: I definitely agree. I also will need to learn about how to setup my xserve G4 DP 1.33ghz. Does anyone know if they have audio out?-Jonas On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 7:45 PM, nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: Clark Martin wrote: Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 26, 2009, at 10:07 AM, Expat wrote: Hi All I'm setting up a home server (Xserve G4) to act as my main server for data, itunes, web hosting and possibly mail etc. given the choice between OS X Server 10.4 and OS X Client 10.5 which would you choose? I think that the difference between Client OS X and Server OSX is that the AFP file server in client is limited to only 10 connections, and it does not support mapping home directories to remote clients. Under OS 9, File Sharing was always severely throttled in comparison to AppleShare Server. I think the same is true in OS X but I've never seen confirmation of that. As a file server alone, though it should work, and there are no limitations on SMB shares. Postfix and Apache are both present, so you could set OSX Client as a mail server and web server; you're also free to install other versions of those, which would not be subject to any OSX limitations. For Web I'd actually recommend XAMPP, it makes getting Apache, PHP, PERL, and Mysql all plug-n-play http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html We ue XAMPP for our production server setup for the College, it works great. My home server is (client) Leopard on a Digital Audio G4. I have DHCP and BIND (DNS) running on it and I'm using Webmin to control them. Webmin is an HTTP based front end for a number of server apps. I don't have an xserve but do have a Sawtooth that I'd like to put to use the same way the OP is desiring. I think this thread should be kept alive so we can all learn about running a dedicated server on OS X. I'm getting tired of the multi platform computing at home and would like to go complete mac, at least for most of the time. So, let's keep this thread alive! I'd like to learn all there is to set mine up! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
