Re: Apple G4 CPU upgrade options
Does nayone have any experience between these two: 1. Mercury Extreme G4/1.2GHz w/2MB L3 Cache. (I'm not sure the correct model#) 2. sonnet encore st g4 1200/2m (SG4-1200-2M) macuser, I thank you for your time. But you see I got this G4 Powermac as a hand me down. The two processors I mentioned on my last link were mentioned for a reason, and that is because they are old processors and they can be found anywhere from $60-100. I need another 512mb stick and I will have 1.5gigs of ram, and I already run 2 firewire 400 drives (320gigx2) You can't compare the savings I'm after, to the theoretical savings you spelled out. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Apple G4 CPU upgrade options
From: d p xolmu...@gmail.com To: G3-5 List g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009 9:27:55 AM Subject: Re: Apple G4 CPU upgrade options Does nayone have any experience between these two: 1. Mercury Extreme G4/1.2GHz w/2MB L3 Cache. (I'm not sure the correct model#) 2. sonnet encore st g4 1200/2m (SG4-1200-2M) macuser, I thank you for your time. But you see I got this G4 Powermac as a hand me down. The two processors I mentioned on my last link were mentioned for a reason, and that is because they are old processors and they can be found anywhere from $60-100. I need another 512mb stick and I will have 1.5gigs of ram, and I already run 2 firewire 400 drives (320gigx2) You can't compare the savings I'm after, to the theoretical savings you spelled out. __ I had a Mercury Extreme 1.5GHz in my old Sawtooth, and had absolutely no problems. I ran a Sonnet G4 upgrade in my old Beige G3 and that too, was OK - but there were one or two issues regarding booting from CD/DVD (i.e. CMD+C didn't work) but I think those issues were specific to the G3 ZIF upgrades. Ted --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Apple G4 CPU upgrade options
Hello Ted! Now that you mention it - I had the original CD drive from my Gigabit Ethernet replaced with a used DVD drive from an old PC that was laying around in my cellar. The original CD drive was broken, so I had no choice really. Since the replacement DVD drive wasn't originally Apple, I wasn't quite sure. But I was also unable to boot a CD or DVD holding the CMD+C keys. So there is a slight possibility that the CPU upgrade has something to do with it. But I'm not sure. Sorry that I cannot say more. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- Original message -- Subject: Re: Apple G4 CPU upgrade options Date:Mittwoch, 26. August 2009N From:Ted Treen ted.tr...@btinternet.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com I had a Mercury Extreme 1.5GHz in my old Sawtooth, and had absolutely no problems. I ran a Sonnet G4 upgrade in my old Beige G3 and that too, was OK - but there were one or two issues regarding booting from CD/DVD (i.e. CMD+C didn't work) but I think those issues were specific to the G3 ZIF upgrades. Ted --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Apple G4 CPU upgrade options
Hello d p! I was just saying that it might be a better choice to get a used QuickSilver or Mirrored Drive Doors and use one of those instead. Anything you can put into a Sawtooth/Gigabit Ethernet/Digital Audio will also fit into a QuickSilver/MDD - with the advantage of an overall better performance. Only with RAM you would have to check. The MDD uses different RAM than all predecessors, but the Quicksilver can also use 100 MHz RAM (at least mine does, QS 2001 733 MHz, now Dual-800 MHz) from Sawtooth and Gigabit Ethernet. I've seen a 933 MHz Quicksilver go for less than $75 USD on eBay. The Dual models are a little bit more expensive. But you're right, I don't know what you're up to. If you are eger to invest $60 to $100 in a CPU upgrade card for 1.2 GHz, you could go for either one. 1. Mercury Extreme G4/1.2GHz w/2MB L3 Cache. (I'm not sure the correct model#) I've looked at the OWC pages and the OWC item number is OWCMEG42M1200. http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other World Computing/MEG42M1200/ 2. sonnet encore st g4 1200/2m (SG4-1200-2M) Never used a Sonnet Encore. Anyway I've also heard only good about it. (But: no jumpers, and check if you have to update the firmware in any way...) Left with only the choice to upgrade you could go with any one of the two you mentioned. Generally speaking. If you gather more information about the Sonnet you will be able to decide more precisely what you want. Please report back what you do - might interest some more people here. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- Original message -- Subject: Re: Apple G4 CPU upgrade options Date:Mittwoch, 26. August 2009N From:d p xolmu...@gmail.com To: G3-5 List g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Does nayone have any experience between these two: 1. Mercury Extreme G4/1.2GHz w/2MB L3 Cache. (I'm not sure the correct model#) 2. sonnet encore st g4 1200/2m (SG4-1200-2M) macuser, I thank you for your time. But you see I got this G4 Powermac as a hand me down. The two processors I mentioned on my last link were mentioned for a reason, and that is because they are old processors and they can be found anywhere from $60-100. I need another 512mb stick and I will have 1.5gigs of ram, and I already run 2 firewire 400 drives (320gigx2) You can't compare the savings I'm after, to the theoretical savings you spelled out. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 Question
On 8/25/09 10:48 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: Yes, it isut OnyX asks for my password Dan, I've been following this thread and I can confirm this bug, if you can call it that. I did the same thing on my Ti 400 last night, shut down, restart but Dashboard is still in the dock, and the blue icon, top right, is still there. I just tried removing the icon from the dock, no luck. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Apple G4 CPU upgrade options
Wrong. I have an MDD, and know for a fact that you cannot put anything besides drives and video cards from sawtooth/gig-e/d-a machines into the MDD, the MDD uses DDR RAM, and a completely different CPU. On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Mac User #330250macuser330...@gmx.net wrote: Anything you can put into a Sawtooth/Gigabit Ethernet/Digital Audio will also fit into a QuickSilver/MDD - with the advantage of an overall better performance. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 Question
At 11:48 PM -0500 8/25/2009, Stephen Conrad wrote: On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Dandantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 10:09 PM -0500 8/25/2009, Stephen Conrad wrote: Use a tool such as OnyX. OK, I unclicked Enable Dashboard So why do I still see the arrow under Dashboard? Because you haven't logged out and back in again yet, then removed the icon from the Dock? I restarted the machine already Shouldn't that have done the trick? Yea. This is the same account in which you turned it off? Yes, it isut OnyX asks for my password At 7:07 AM -0600 8/26/2009, Nestamicky wrote: Dan, I've been following this thread and I can confirm this bug, if you can call it that. I did the same thing on my Ti 400 last night, shut down, restart but Dashboard is still in the dock, and the blue icon, top right, is still there. I just tried removing the icon from the dock, no luck. Ok. Just tried it. Yea, yer right - there's a bug it's in Dock; just cosmetic tho. OnyX (or Deeper if using a non-admin account) disables Dashboard, kills its processes, and restarts the Dock - like it should. But the Dock keeps the arrow on the Dashboard icon. (You can see with Activity Monitor that the Dashboard processes are gone). Just grab that icon and poof it off the Dock. To re-enable Dashboard, check the box in OnyX. It will do its thing and restart the Dock. Then you need to manually launch Dashboard.app and manually drag its icon onto the Dock. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OSX10.4 on G3
I really think you should have a processor speed over 650mhz for running Tiger... I have a few old clamshells and my 466 runs faster then my 366 running Jaguar, I get the spinning color disc too on the 366 more then the 466... When I went from 10.1 to 10.2.8 that slowed both machines down a lot... I bought a 366 off ebay and it had Panther in it and that was just way too slow for me even running 576mb so I did a clean and reinstall with Jaguar... Rich -Original Message- From: steveoa steve.oak...@phonecoop.coop Sent: Aug 25, 2009 5:34 PM To: G3-5 List g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: OSX10.4 on G3 Hi, I'm trying to load 10.4 onto my G3 slot loader- 400Hz, 512 ram, 63Gb spare on HD, using an external DVD via Firewire- all seems well with this. It runs ok till the Install section then just sits there with the spinning coloured disk. I've got 10.3 on it at present and I'm using the Easy Install option, any suggestions? Thanks Steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Apple G4 CPU upgrade options
Correct. I was not clear enough. I referred to HDDs, PCI cards, AGP graphics cards, and computer peripheral equipment (everthing that is external). I stated though that RAM is different for the MDD. Up to the Quicksilver you can use the 100 MHz RAM from the Sawtooth, although 133 MHz RAM is benefiting from the 133 MHz system bus speed. CPUs are a completely different story, as you always have to look carefully. You're right, most CPU upgrades are for Sawtooth to Quicksilver only. MDD CPU upgrades are specific for the MDD (and MDD/FW800) only. Sorry for the misleading information, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- Original message -- Subject: Re: Apple G4 CPU upgrade options Date:Mittwoch, 26. August 2009N From:Chance Reecher cnrtechh...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Wrong. I have an MDD, and know for a fact that you cannot put anything besides drives and video cards from sawtooth/gig-e/d-a machines into the MDD, the MDD uses DDR RAM, and a completely different CPU. On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Mac User #330250macuser330...@gmx.net wrote: Anything you can put into a Sawtooth/Gigabit Ethernet/Digital Audio will also fit into a QuickSilver/MDD - with the advantage of an overall better performance. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
iMovie / iDVD?
Hello, I am running a G5 2.5Ghz dualie with 4GB RAM, 2 x 320 GB HDD and using 10.4.11. I am currently using iMovie 5.0.2 and iDVD 5.0.1 with updates. I have edited my video in iMovie, with titles included. Now I want to make a DVD to play on TV. How do I get the iMovie to iDVD WITHOUT all the extra garbage that iDVD wants to put on it? This is a 10 minute movie and all I want to do is put JUST WHAT I HAVE EDITED on a DVD!! I did this about a year ago but do not remember how I did it Sometimers strikes again!! Dan II --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
OS 10.4 to Thumbdrive
I have a G4 Sawtooth 400 MHZ machine running 10.4.11. I want to put a larger HD in. How do I go about saving thew OS that is currently on it? Can I put it on a thumbdrive? Will it boot from it? Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS 10.4 to Thumbdrive
At 8:27 AM -0700 8/26/2009, Jasiu wrote: G4 Sawtooth 400 MHZ machine running 10.4.11. I want to put a larger HD in. Just add another drive! Use the original drive for the operating system, applications, and your basic user files. Use the new drive for your other / big stuff - movies, music, etc. Much more efficient to throw data around from two drives than to bottleneck it on one! How do I go about saving thew OS that is currently on it? Make a backup using an app such as Carbon Copy Cloner (free). Can I put it on a thumbdrive? Yes, if it's big enough. Make sure you re-initialize it as HFS+ Journaled, case insensative, first tho, so you don't corrupt the Mac's file system when you make the backup. Most such devices are FAT (PC) formatted originally. Will it boot from it? Um I think Sawtooth can boot from a USB device. So then it probably would boot from a flash drive. Bruce? Someone? yes? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS 10.4 to Thumbdrive
On Aug 26, 2009, at 8:27 AM, Jasiu wrote: I have a G4 Sawtooth 400 MHZ machine running 10.4.11. I want to put a larger HD in. How do I go about saving thew OS that is currently on it? Can I put it on a thumbdrive? Will it boot from it? Thanks The sawtooth accommodates two hard drives without modification (although it needs to be 128 GB if it's installed on the internal ATA bus). Once the new drive is installed you can use an application like Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper to clone the old drive to the new. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS 10.4 to Thumbdrive
On Aug 26, 2009, at 9:47 AM, Dan wrote: Will it boot from it? Um I think Sawtooth can boot from a USB device. So then it probably would boot from a flash drive. Bruce? Someone? yes? I've read that it can, but since the built-in is USB 1.1 I've never been patient enough to try. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS 10.4 to Thumbdrive
I do have two hard drives. The one with the OS is a 10 GB drive with 1.6 GB left. The other drive is an 80 GB drive with 73 GB left. I though I had moved over the applications and such from the smaller one to the larger one, but perhaps I've missed a few. What is safe to move over? On Aug 26, 12:47 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 8:27 AM -0700 8/26/2009, Jasiu wrote: G4 Sawtooth 400 MHZ machine running 10.4.11. I want to put a larger HD in. Just add another drive! Use the original drive for the operating system, applications, and your basic user files. Use the new drive for your other / big stuff - movies, music, etc. Much more efficient to throw data around from two drives than to bottleneck it on one! How do I go about saving thew OS that is currently on it? Make a backup using an app such as Carbon Copy Cloner (free). Can I put it on a thumbdrive? Yes, if it's big enough. Make sure you re-initialize it as HFS+ Journaled, case insensative, first tho, so you don't corrupt the Mac's file system when you make the backup. Most such devices are FAT (PC) formatted originally. Will it boot from it? Um I think Sawtooth can boot from a USB device. So then it probably would boot from a flash drive. Bruce? Someone? yes? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iMovie / iDVD?
At 11:29 AM -0500 8/26/09 DAN A CURRIE wrote: I am currently using iMovie 5.0.2 and iDVD 5.0.1 with updates. I have edited my video in iMovie, with titles included. Now I want to make a DVD to play on TV. How do I get the iMovie to iDVD WITHOUT all the extra garbage that iDVD wants to put on it? This is a 10 minute movie and all I want to do is put JUST WHAT I HAVE EDITED on a DVD!! I did this about a year ago but do not remember how I did it Sometimers strikes again!! Dan II This works in iMovie 09, Don't know about 5. Save your movie. It'll be .m4v. Launch iDVDIgnore the project window. Go to Menu Bar File OneStep DVD from Movie In the window that opens, select your movie. Click on Import, then Insert a blank DVD Only problem is I don't know how or if you can name the DVD. It defaults to something like OneStep DVD Regards, ~Edie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS 10.4 to Thumbdrive
On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Jasiu wrote: I do have two hard drives. The one with the OS is a 10 GB drive with 1.6 GB left. The other drive is an 80 GB drive with 73 GB left. I though I had moved over the applications and such from the smaller one to the larger one, but perhaps I've missed a few. What is safe to move over? Your user directory, which is generally by far the largest directory on the system is still on the small drive. You can use the directions here: http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=2007041217125440 http://web.archive.org/web/20060418030927/www.bombich.com/mactips/homedir.html -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
bad emac switch?
Ok, just bought an emac on ebay that came with a bad power switch (yes, I tested it with my sisters emac switch) is there a way of bypassing the switch or possibly using something else to work the switch? I can solder? what say you Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: bad emac switch?
On 8/26/09 1:41 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com Broadcast into the ether: Ok, just bought an emac on ebay that came with a bad power switch (yes, I tested it with my sisters emac switch) is there a way of bypassing the switch or possibly using something else to work the switch? I can solder? what say you Jeff Replacing that switch and the Evad cable were standard shop daily jobs back when I worked in the repair shop. Just go to eBay and buy a replacement. They can't be expensive. Kyle Hansen -- I reject your reality and substitute my own -- Adam Savage (Mythbusters) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: bad emac switch?
nothing on ebay, and what I could find elsewhere, was expensive! close to 40 bucks! darn... On Aug 26, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: On 8/26/09 1:41 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com Broadcast into the ether: Ok, just bought an emac on ebay that came with a bad power switch (yes, I tested it with my sisters emac switch) is there a way of bypassing the switch or possibly using something else to work the switch? I can solder? what say you Jeff Replacing that switch and the Evad cable were standard shop daily jobs back when I worked in the repair shop. Just go to eBay and buy a replacement. They can't be expensive. Kyle Hansen -- I reject your reality and substitute my own -- Adam Savage (Mythbusters) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: bad emac switch?
On Aug 26, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: On 8/26/09 1:41 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com Broadcast into the ether: Ok, just bought an emac on ebay that came with a bad power switch (yes, I tested it with my sisters emac switch) is there a way of bypassing the switch or possibly using something else to work the switch? I can solder? what say you Jeff Replacing that switch and the Evad cable were standard shop daily jobs back when I worked in the repair shop. Just go to eBay and buy a replacement. They can't be expensive. One question though.. are they all the same? J --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: bad emac switch?
IIRC it's just a two wire momentary on switch.get a basic one from your local electronic supply store (used to say radio shack, but they carry so little of that kind of stuff any more) Only think to think about is if you need to take the computer apart in the future so: A) make the wires disconnectable or B) have the switch attached to the innards and not the outer shell. -sam Ok, just bought an emac on ebay that came with a bad power switch (yes, I tested it with my sisters emac switch) is there a way of bypassing the switch or possibly using something else to work the switch? I can solder? what say you Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: bad emac switch?
Hey Sam, I have 3 wires, one large black, one small red one small black. I'm guessing that the two small wires get the switch, then what do I do with the bigger black wire? Jeff On Aug 26, 2009, at 1:56 PM, Sam Macomber wrote: IIRC it's just a two wire momentary on switch.get a basic one from your local electronic supply store (used to say radio shack, but they carry so little of that kind of stuff any more) Only think to think about is if you need to take the computer apart in the future so: A) make the wires disconnectable or B) have the switch attached to the innards and not the outer shell. -sam Ok, just bought an emac on ebay that came with a bad power switch (yes, I tested it with my sisters emac switch) is there a way of bypassing the switch or possibly using something else to work the switch? I can solder? what say you Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS 10.4 to Thumbdrive
So I am confused now. Do I need to use Copy Clone to put the entire disc on the larger one? Or can I just add the user directory files to the larger one? Do I use terminal or is it just a draga nd drop kinda thing? On Aug 26, 4:37 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Jasiu wrote: I do have two hard drives. The one with the OS is a 10 GB drive with 1.6 GB left. The other drive is an 80 GB drive with 73 GB left. I though I had moved over the applications and such from the smaller one to the larger one, but perhaps I've missed a few. What is safe to move over? Your user directory, which is generally by far the largest directory on the system is still on the small drive. You can use the directions here: http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=2007041217125440 http://web.archive.org/web/20060418030927/www.bombich.com/mactips/hom... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Re: bad emac switch?
thought it was two wires, been a while since I took our eMac apart(old 700MHz if that makes any difference). If it were me I'd take it apart and see how it works, it's broken any how, right? :) At the very least that should tell you which wires do what. -sam Hey Sam, I have 3 wires, one large black, one small red one small black. I'm guessing that the two small wires get the switch, then what do I do with the bigger black wire? Jeff On Aug 26, 2009, at 1:56 PM, Sam Macomber wrote: IIRC it's just a two wire momentary on switch.get a basic one from your local electronic supply store (used to say radio shack, but they carry so little of that kind of stuff any more) Only think to think about is if you need to take the computer apart in the future so: A) make the wires disconnectable or B) have the switch attached to the innards and not the outer shell. -sam Ok, just bought an emac on ebay that came with a bad power switch (yes, I tested it with my sisters emac switch) is there a way of bypassing the switch or possibly using something else to work the switch? I can solder? what say you Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS 10.4 to Thumbdrive
On Aug 26, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Jasiu wrote: So I am confused now. Do I need to use Copy Clone to put the entire disc on the larger one? Or can I just add the user directory files to the larger one? Do I use terminal or is it just a draga nd drop kinda thing? Well, my first advice was based on your incomplete first post; if you have a lot of space already, you can move your user directory to free up space without adding a new drive. So what I said covers different circumstances; a good reason to let us know the *full* configuration of your computer when you ask questions... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS 10.4 to Thumbdrive
At 1:44 PM -0700 8/26/2009, Jasiu wrote: So I am confused now. Do I need to use Copy Clone to put the entire disc on the larger one? Or can I just add the user directory files to the larger one? Do I use terminal or is it just a draga nd drop kinda thing? Use Carbon Copy Cloner to do the copying - either the whole drive or just your /Users tree - up to you - whatever the flash drive will hold. CCC is much more reliable than drag'n'drop copying, and it will copy everything - even the invisible files - which can be quite important when it comes ot your preferences and such. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Online Subscription Management for Google Groups
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Re: What OCR for Leopard?
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Aug 25, 2009, at 5:19 PM, Al Poulin wrote: On Aug 24, 7:04 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: Abbyy Fine Reader is $100 http://www.abbyyusa.com/shop/ It at least runs on modern macs :-) Bruce: This looks like an excellent candidate with a nice support tail. Do you have any feedback on Abbyy Fine Reader on campus? Nope, I just found it via google. I haven't run into anyone wanting to do OCR on a Mac (or a PC for that matter) in a long time. We have the PC version of Abby Fine Reader at work, and it works really well, when you can finally figure out how to use it. Very difficult user interface. I didn't see it mentioned, but if you just happen to have access to the full version of Adobe Acrobat, there is an OCR module built-in. I haven't used it so I can't testify to it's ability or agility. Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 Question
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Dandantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 11:48 PM -0500 8/25/2009, Stephen Conrad wrote: On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Dandantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 10:09 PM -0500 8/25/2009, Stephen Conrad wrote: Use a tool such as OnyX. OK, I unclicked Enable Dashboard So why do I still see the arrow under Dashboard? Because you haven't logged out and back in again yet, then removed the icon from the Dock? I restarted the machine already Shouldn't that have done the trick? Yea. This is the same account in which you turned it off? Yes, it isut OnyX asks for my password At 7:07 AM -0600 8/26/2009, Nestamicky wrote: Dan, I've been following this thread and I can confirm this bug, if you can call it that. I did the same thing on my Ti 400 last night, shut down, restart but Dashboard is still in the dock, and the blue icon, top right, is still there. I just tried removing the icon from the dock, no luck. Ok. Just tried it. Yea, yer right - there's a bug it's in Dock; just cosmetic tho. OnyX (or Deeper if using a non-admin account) disables Dashboard, kills its processes, and restarts the Dock - like it should. But the Dock keeps the arrow on the Dashboard icon. (You can see with Activity Monitor that the Dashboard processes are gone). Just grab that icon and poof it off the Dock. To re-enable Dashboard, check the box in OnyX. It will do its thing and restart the Dock. Then you need to manually launch Dashboard.app and manually drag its icon onto the Dock. OK, but if thats not my problem then what freezes up my machine when I leave it un-used? I have to restart it just to use it. It did this today and all I had pulled up was the desktop, nothing else. I did a check of both HDs earlier and they were fine. But just now it said USS Akira (120 GB HD that is formated as Mac OS Extended (Journaled) and has 111.5 GB free. Could this be what is freezing my G4 (the problem with my 2nd HD)? Steve -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What OCR for Leopard?
On Aug 26, 2009, at 9:06 PM, Stephen E. Bodnar wrote: I didn't see it mentioned, but if you just happen to have access to the full version of Adobe Acrobat, there is an OCR module built-in. I haven't used it so I can't testify to it's ability or agility. Stephen I have Acrobat 6 Pro under Leopard 10.5.7 and I got this just now OCRing using Paper Capture of a letter from Adult Protective Services for a problem at Westminster Canterbury Retirement Community: Page 1 of 1 PO. Box 6798, Lynchburg, VA 24505 www.lynchbu~gva.gov TEL: 434-455-5850 Department of SocialServices August 18,2009 William Connelly II 21 05 Westerly Drive Lynchburg, Virginia, 24501 Dear William Connelly 11: This is in response to your report of August 17, 2009 alleging that (Mom's Name Correctly OCRd) may be a victim of abuse, neglect, or exploitation. Your report to this agency complies with Section 63.2- 1606 of the Code of Virginia that requires the reporting of suspected abuse, neglect, or exploitation of certain adults to the Lynchburg Department of Social Services. The investigation has been completed, and at this time, there is not a preponderance of evidence that Catherine Connelly is in need of protective services. Since situations of vulnerable adults can change rapidly, your continued assistance in identifying and referring adults whom you suspect may be victims of abuse, neglect, or exploitation would be appreciated. Thank you for your report and for your interest in the safety and well- being of vulnerable adults. Sincerely, Social Worker Adult Protective Services 25' Pretty good, don't you think? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
