Re: Card Reader
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: Why would a 24x CD-ROM be a requirement for a USB 2.0 cardreader, this makes no sense. The speed requirement makes no sense (and no difference in all likelihood...), but these devices often have drivers for pre-windows 2000 operating systems enclosed on CD, so in that context having a CD drive is definitely a requirement. Shouldn't make a difference for the OP. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Plain text format
On 19/7/10 03:39, James Therrault jetas...@netzero.com wrote: You don't appear to be using plain text, (at least in my reader). sigh JT Hmm - I am experiencing this anomaly recently too. I've been on the lists for more years than I care to remember and originally used Claris Emailer under legacy - moving to Entourage in OSX (mainly because the interface is a dead ringer for Claris). The body of the mails I receive is set in my Entourage preferences to display in fixed width 10 point Monaco - used to be 9 point but now I'm over 60 and so are my eyes. The vast majority of the mail I get from the lists displays in this format but there are exceptions which appear to be html type formatlike this one... This is not up for debate. It has to due with the bandwidth that google allows our group etc. Plain text or leave the list. Sorry. Kyle Hansen LEM List Manager --- The first time Microsoft produces something that doesn't suck will be when they start making vacuum cleaners --- This did not appear in my client as fixed width nor was it 10 point Monaco - it was double width and in a Helvetica type sans serif font. Whilst this one from the same source sent shortly after I just did. I will do it again. THIS THREAD IS DEAD. DO NOT POST ON THIS TOPIC ANYMORE. FURTHER POSTS ON THIS TOPIC MAY RESULT IN A TEMPORARY BAN FROM THE LIST. This was the last thing I wanted to wake up to and read. Now back to the Tour de France on Tivo with a Mimosa in hand and my laptop open reading this list. --- The first time Microsoft produces something that doesn't suck will be when they start making vacuum cleaners --- displayed as my normal fixed width in 10 pt Monaco. Similarly posts from Stephen Conrad about the card reader are also double width and not Monaco but the smoother Helvetica (or whatever). I don't have a problem with this - in fact they look better as Monaco is not a particularly nice font. I suppose I could change the font but us oldsters don't like change. But I AM wondering what is causing plain text (if it is plain text) to display as a html lookalike...? Is this message in good old plain text for everyone? Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Plain text format
On Jul 19, 2010, at 3:34 AM, pdimage wrote: On 19/7/10 03:39, James Therrault jetas...@netzero.com wrote: (In a previous thread responding to Kyle Hansen) You don't appear to be using plain text, (at least in my reader). sigh JT Hmm - I am experiencing this anomaly recently too. I've been on the lists for more years than I care to remember and originally used Claris Emailer under legacy - moving to Entourage in OSX (mainly because the interface is a dead ringer for Claris). The body of the mails I receive is set in my Entourage preferences to display in fixed width 10 point Monaco - used to be 9 point but now I'm over 60 and so are my eyes. The vast majority of the mail I get from the lists displays in this format but there are exceptions which appear to be html type formatlike this one... I use Apple's Mail and have it set to only send out in plain text. To see if you are actually using plain text, just type out a few letters in a new mail. Then select all the text that you have type, click on Fonts, and it should default to Courier. Try to change the text and you'll get an alert to the effect that if you click to change font, you will be using RTF, otherwise click to use plain text. Plain text, (at least in my very long experience), always is the default to non-proportional Courier. That goes for the publishing biz as well. JT TODAY: iPads for $23.74? SPECIAL REPORT: iPads are being auctioned for an incredible 80% off! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4c44257edfa6532dacest06duc -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Plain text format
On 19/7/10 11:19, James Therrault jetas...@netzero.com wrote: I use Apple's Mail and have it set to only send out in plain text. To see if you are actually using plain text, just type out a few letters in a new mail. Then select all the text that you have type, click on Fonts, and it should default to Courier. Try to change the text and you'll get an alert to the effect that if you click to change font, you will be using RTF, otherwise click to use plain text. Plain text, (at least in my very long experience), always is the default to non-proportional Courier. That goes for the publishing biz as well. JT Entourage is a little different - there does not seem to be an option to choose or even see the font for outgoing plain text emails - set in stone I presume. Font choices are greyed out so I have no idea whether I am sending Courier or Monaco or whatever. Or just a default character set which is formatted on receipt. Incoming I have the choice to view or print in any of the fonts on my mac. You don't appear to be using plain text, (at least in my reader). sigh JT But when you wrote this what did you see in your reader - presumably not fixed width Courier. Was it full width and a html type font as I saw and if so was it plain text or html? I can't imagine Kyle sending html to the list. Bit of a puzzler.as I think Kyle uses Entourage tooperhaps a mistake Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Plain text format
On Jul 19, 2010, at 6:11 AM, pdimage wrote: On 19/7/10 11:19, James Therrault jetas...@netzero.com wrote: I use Apple's Mail and have it set to only send out in plain text. To see if you are actually using plain text, just type out a few letters in a new mail. Then select all the text that you have type, click on Fonts, and it should default to Courier. Try to change the text and you'll get an alert to the effect that if you click to change font, you will be using RTF, otherwise click to use plain text. Plain text, (at least in my very long experience), always is the default to non-proportional Courier. That goes for the publishing biz as well. JT Entourage is a little different - there does not seem to be an option to choose or even see the font for outgoing plain text emails - set in stone I presume. Font choices are greyed out so I have no idea whether I am sending Courier or Monaco or whatever. Or just a default character set which is formatted on receipt. Incoming I have the choice to view or print in any of the fonts on my mac. You don't appear to be using plain text, (at least in my reader). sigh JT But when you wrote this what did you see in your reader - presumably not fixed width Courier. Was it full width and a html type font as I saw and if so was it plain text or html? I can't imagine Kyle sending html to the list. Bit of a puzzler.as I think Kyle uses Entourage tooperhaps a mistake AFAIC, anything Microsoft is a minus. I used the reader in Nutscrape or SeaMonkey for a number of years but switched to Mail about a year ago. That said, some info on plain text can be found here: http://www.techterms.com/definition/plaintext But, I'm not sure why they didn't mention Courier as the usual plain text default. JT 2010 #1 Energy Stock Pick AEGY. Find out why investors love this MAJOR green energy player! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4c443a0c2a81d32e8dfst06duc -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Plain text format
At 9:34 AM +0100 7/19/2010, pdimage wrote: On 19/7/10 03:39, James Therrault jetas...@netzero.com wrote: You don't appear to be using plain text, (at least in my reader). Hmm - I am experiencing this anomaly recently too. What you observed, in this particular case, was kindof a cascade failure. Kevin Barth's reply in the thread was in rich text. Kyle replied to that, quoting Kevin, so his email client used the same format. Then James replied to that, and stripped some of the HTML. A quick giveaway to tell if a message is plain or rich... Look at the quoting. If the quoting is RFC standard, displayed with | or characters against the left margin, the message is probably plain text. If the quoting is indented as if tabbed - it was probably done as rich text (and when you strip the html tags, you lose all the quoting levels). The body of the mails I receive is set in my Entourage preferences to display in fixed width 10 point Monaco - used to be 9 point but now I'm over 60 and so are my eyes. The vast majority of the mail I get from the lists displays in this format but there are exceptions which appear to be html type formatlike this one... [snip] This did not appear in my client as fixed width nor was it 10 point Monaco - it was double width and in a Helvetica type sans serif font. Whilst this one from the same source sent shortly after The font setting you put in your mail client is simply a default -- applied if the email message itself doesn't override it. It is overridden by the font tags in the rich/html email. You should be able to see this if you view the message in its raw form; in particular, look for the font and style tags. In some mail clients you can then bump the size, IF the html in the email doesn't include hard-coded specific sizes. ... My default is Lucinda 14, btw. HTH, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Plain text format
On 19/7/10 13:54, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: What you observed, in this particular case, was kindof a cascade failure. Kevin Barth's reply in the thread was in rich text. Kyle replied to that, quoting Kevin, so his email client used the same format. Then James replied to that, and stripped some of the HTML. I thought about that when I originally received the mails and indeed tried it out in Entourage by hitting reply to those allegedly rich text mails - but my Entourage strips all the rich text from the quote by default leaving quotes as above with the leader - so I presumed Kyle's Entourage (mentioned in his headers) would do the same The font setting you put in your mail client is simply a default -- applied if the email message itself doesn't override it. It is overridden by the font tags in the rich/html email. You should be able to see this if you view the message in its raw form; in particular, look for the font and style tags. In some mail clients you can then bump the size, IF the html in the email doesn't include hard-coded specific sizes. ... My default is Lucinda 14, btw. HTH, - Dan. I can't find anything in Entourage which will allow me to see the raw form and hence the formatting and that simply leaves me not knowing what it is - plain text - html text - or rich text - that's if some clients have rich text as a third option. I hope you mean Lucida 14 - Lucinda 14 sounds like straying into Jerry Lee Lewis territory. I may try Lucida - Monaco is not the prettiest by any means... AFAIC, anything Microsoft is a minus. I used the reader in Nutscrape or SeaMonkey for a number of years but switched to Mail about a year ago. I have no particular bias against any tech companies - software is good or bad. Entourage is quite good - Excel is exactly what it says - excellent. What does AFAIC stand for? I know the one with the k at the end. Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G5 Video card upgrade
I currently am using the below stock video card OEM. I'd like to have a card that would support a 30 display (not a flashed card please) What card (Apple please) would be a nice upgrade for my early 2005 G5 power Mac? Jeff ATI Radeon 9600: 2x DVI ports Chipset Model:ATY,RV351 Type: Display Bus: AGP Slot: SLOT-1 VRAM (Total): 128 MB Vendor: ATI (0x1002) Device ID:0x4150 Revision ID: 0x ROM Revision: 113-A58504-113 Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 My Mac Information: Power Mac G5 (Early 2005 Model) Dual 2.3ghz 6 gb DDR SDRAM Leopard 10.5.8 (Build 9L31a) Firmtek/Seritek 1V4 (Rom v. 5.1.3) G5-Jive w/3 500gb WD HD's Silicon Image 4-port PCI X eSata Samsung SyncMaster 245bw 24 Apple Wireless Keyboard MC184LL/A Apple Magic Mouse MB829LL/A Jeff Engle Kamiah Idaho 83539 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Plain text format
On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:18 AM, pdimage wrote: On 19/7/10 13:54, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: What you observed, in this particular case, was kindof a cascade failure. Kevin Barth's reply in the thread was in rich text. Kyle replied to that, quoting Kevin, so his email client used the same format. Then James replied to that, and stripped some of the HTML. I thought about that when I originally received the mails and indeed tried it out in Entourage by hitting reply to those allegedly rich text mails - but my Entourage strips all the rich text from the quote by default leaving quotes as above with the leader - so I presumed Kyle's Entourage (mentioned in his headers) would do the same The font setting you put in your mail client is simply a default -- applied if the email message itself doesn't override it. It is overridden by the font tags in the rich/html email. You should be able to see this if you view the message in its raw form; in particular, look for the font and style tags. In some mail clients you can then bump the size, IF the html in the email doesn't include hard-coded specific sizes. ... My default is Lucinda 14, btw. HTH, - Dan. I can't find anything in Entourage which will allow me to see the raw form and hence the formatting and that simply leaves me not knowing what it is - plain text - html text - or rich text - that's if some clients have rich text as a third option. I hope you mean Lucida 14 - Lucinda 14 sounds like straying into Jerry Lee Lewis territory. I may try Lucida - Monaco is not the prettiest by any means... Yep, he had to mean Lucida developed in the mid 1980's and it IS a proportional font which will default to rtf. http://www.fonts.com/FontPackages/SuperFamilies/Lucida.htm However, Dan's emails appear to be in courier, (non proportional), whereas other emails that I get are delivered as written/formatted. AFAIC, anything Microsoft is a minus. I used the reader in Nutscrape or SeaMonkey for a number of years but switched to Mail about a year ago. I have no particular bias against any tech companies - software is good or bad. Entourage is quite good - Excel is exactly what it says - excellent. What does AFAIC stand for? I know the one with the k at the end. AFAIAC - As far as I am concerned (I left out an A). But I have an excuse... I'm old! JT Free Credit Score A bad credit score is below 598. Click here to see yours for $0. Checking won't affect your score. By Experian#174 http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4c44b642d3385349991st04duc -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Video card upgrade
On Jul 19, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: I'd like to have a card that would support a 30 display http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1167171 As expensive as an Apple 30 display is, combined with the cost of a new video card, you might consider upgrading the entire computer, it could be cheaper in the long run? The 27 iMac has nearly identical screen resolution to the Apple 30 Cinema display. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Plain text format
On Jul 19, 2010, at 6:11 AM, pdimage wrote: On 19/7/10 11:19, James Therrault jetas...@netzero.com wrote: But when you wrote this what did you see in your reader - presumably not fixed width Courier. Was it full width and a html type font as I saw and if so was it plain text or html? I can't imagine Kyle sending html to the list. Bit of a puzzler.as I think Kyle uses Entourage tooperhaps a mistake No, it was similar to Helvetica but wasn't since the I was semi serif AFAIK Courier is strictly a bare bones non proportional type face and as such would command the smallest possible file size for any given document. JT Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4c44b9def35db372c90st02duc -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Change machine specific installer requirements
On Jul 19, 2010, at 4:00 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: This is a dilemma! One the one hand you may have (get, buy) a PowerPC (also Intel?) Mac. The bad thing about it: it didn't came with the original installation discs; they simply seem to be lost, over the years maybe (like for tons of G4 Macs). Why is this so bad? Because without them you don't have a chance to reinstall the original operating system with the original *and licensed* software. But you *know* that this specific model came with such software. The software was paid for, because there was no other chance to get a Mac. (There was never even a single Mac sold without Mac OS and some software of any kind!) So, the software (discs) got lost, but the license(s) is(are) still valid. After all, you didn't buy the software, you just bought the license – you have the right to use the software, not to own it. But without the installation discs you're stuck… Do you also have those other discs (from a different Mac) laying around? See the dilemma? Yes, and despite what some say... I'll betcha that over 50% of Macs running OSX are doing so onn copied S/W. Just my 2¢ worth. JT Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4c44bdbea9049342c2cst06duc -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Change machine specific installer requirements
On Jul 19, 2010, at 2:00 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: This is a dilemma! One the one hand you may have (get, buy) a PowerPC (also Intel?) Mac. The bad thing about it: it didn't came with the original installation discs; they simply seem to be lost, over the years maybe (like for tons of G4 Macs). Why is this so bad? Because without them you don't have a chance to reinstall the original operating system with the original *and licensed* software. But you *know* that this specific model came with such software. The software was paid for, because there was no other chance to get a Mac. (There was never even a single Mac sold without Mac OS and some software of any kind!) So, the software (discs) got lost, but the license(s) is(are) still valid. After all, you didn't buy the software, you just bought the license – you have the right to use the software, not to own it. But without the installation discs you're stuck… Do you also have those other discs (from a different Mac) laying around? See the dilemma? Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 Well said there's no pirating going on, it's just like you said all Macs come with Apple OS, not so with Windbloze boxes. So according to the computer police if you lost the disks over the years by law you must destroy that orphaned Mac?? Crapola I say. Like someone said Saturday sell the Apple stock when that happens. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Video card upgrade
Jeffrey Engle wrote: I currently am using the below stock video card OEM. I'd like to have a card that would support a 30 display (not a flashed card please) What card (Apple please) would be a nice upgrade for my early 2005 G5 power Mac? Jeff My June 2004 2.0 DP is nearly identical except for the expansion slots (June 04 has two 100 MHz 64 bit PCI-X, one 133 MHz 64 bit PCI-X and one 8x AGP Pro where the Early 2005 has three 33 MHz 64 bit PCI, two 100 MHz 64 bit PCI-X and one 8x AGP Pro) and the ODD. It came with an NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra w/256 MB VRAM and 2 dual-link DVI that drives a 23 Al CD. I stress the machine hard running the CPUs at 100% 24/7 and the video card performs very well. Of course Flash is still not great but that is never going to change for PPC Macs. This card was offered on both the June 2004 and the Early 2005 Power Macs. According to Mactracker the June 2004 Power Mac was also available with an NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT DDL that also has 256 MB VRAM and 2 dual-link DVI. For some reason this card was not offered on the Early 2005. Either one of these cards is probably going to be VERY pricey new, Apple's price for a replacement 6800 Ultra is about $600. That would be enough to cause me to take a serious look at flashed PC cards even though they can be a crap shoot. Here is a review of the 6800 Ultra: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/Graphics/mac_6800ultra_review/index.html HTH, Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, PPC 7455 @ 1.25 GHz, 2 GB PC 2700 RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR VRAM PowerBook 15 DL-SD, PPC 7447B @ 1.67 GHz, 2 GB PC2 4200 DDR2 RAM, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR VRAM Power Mac June 04, PPC 970fx DP @2.0 GHz, 8 GB PC 3200 DDR RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB VRAM -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Change machine specific installer requirements
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Change machine specific installer requirements Date:Montag 19 Juli 2010N From:James Therrault jetas...@netzero.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Yes, and despite what some say... I'll betcha that over 50% of Macs running OSX are doing so onn copied S/W. Since software is digitally copied, the copy is 1:1 (byte for byte) like the original. The installed version on the hard drive is exactly the same. It's not wrong/illegal/a bad thing to use a copy – ss long as the license is valid… Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Video card upgrade
On Jul 19, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jul 19, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: I'd like to have a card that would support a 30 display http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1167171 As expensive as an Apple 30 display is, combined with the cost of a new video card, you might consider upgrading the entire computer, it could be cheaper in the long run? The 27 iMac has nearly identical screen resolution to the Apple 30 Cinema display. just looking to support a bigger display than the 24 I currently use. Jeff Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Plain text format
Please Content-Type text/plain describes a mail message that, as delivered, contains zero, nada, no, precisely no, information about the font and size in which the email was sent. The font used for display by the client software is totally, absolutely, firmly, decided at the time the display is prepared as a screen image. Look up RFC 2822. -- -- Life begins at ovulation. Ladies should endeavor to get every young life fertilized. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Video card upgrade
Sorry, I thought you had a 2.0 GHz DP. The correct expansion slots for your 2.3 GHz DP are two 100 MHz 64 bit PCI-X, one 133 MHz 64 bit PCI-X, and one 8x AGP Pro. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, PPC 7455 @ 1.25 GHz, 2 GB PC 2700 RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR VRAM PowerBook 15 DL-SD, PPC 7447B @ 1.67 GHz, 2 GB PC2 4200 DDR2 RAM, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR VRAM Power Mac June 04, PPC 970fx DP @2.0 GHz, 8 GB PC 3200 DDR RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Video card upgrade
On Jul 19, 2010, at 4:21 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: just looking to support a bigger display than the 24 I currently use. In that case, get the biggest HDTV you can find. It should work with your current video card. I'm always looking for a higher resolution screen. Some of the newer 19 are better resolution than my current 22, so I could possibly get a smaller screen as an upgrade in resolution. That's why I mentioned the 27 iMac, it's got a higher resolution screen than the 30 Apple Cinema Display. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Change machine specific installer requirements
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Change machine specific installer requirements Date:Montag 19 Juli 2010N From:John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com So according to the computer police if you lost the disks over the years by law you must destroy that orphaned Mac?? No, you can always install Linux :-) (this had to come… sorry for the inconvenience…) My approach is this: because the original software will only run on this model of Mac, it is always okay to install a copy of the shipped Mac OS on this very Mac. Example: The Power Mac G5 “Late 2005” came with Mac OS X 10.4.2 pre-installed and with the original installation disc+bundled software. Suppose these discs were lost, you got the Mac (bought it or whatever) and the hard drive is broken. It *can only be* legal and okay to install Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger on it. You won't get the original software bundle back, but at least you will get the operating system right. So, what is illegal about that? Okay, suppose you bought the Mac on eBay. The seller was a bit greedy and wants to sell the installation discs separately to make more money. You didn't get them, so someone else must have recieved them. But according to the SLA these discs are only to be installed on a specific model, right? They are not retail. So, the buyer is making something illegal if (s)he installs it on a different Mac. There we are again, you can safely install a *copy* of the shipped Mac OS version on your Mac without the original discs. Another hint, packed in a fictive and completely nonsense example: suppose 500 Power Macs G7 Late 2010 were build. If this were the case, also 500 original installation discs of Mac OS X 10.6/PPC were to be shipped with them. So, if someone else buys one of them and destroys the union of hardware and bundled software, (s)he still cannot install it on an other Mac *legally*. Thus, the 500 Power Macs will *always* run the legal software, wheather installed from the original media or from copies. Am I right, or did I miss an importaint detail? Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Plain text format
On Jul 19, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Doug McNutt wrote: Please Content-Type text/plain describes a mail message that, as delivered, contains zero, nada, no, precisely no, information about the font and size in which the email was sent. You're missing the entire point. I never implied that such information was ommitted. The font used for display by the client software is totally, absolutely, firmly, decided at the time the display is prepared as a screen image. I have never implied such as well. JT Refinance Now 3.7% FIXED $160,000 Mortgage for $547/mo. FREE. No Obligation. Get 4 Quotes! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4c44c4d611efa34ff1cst05duc -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Video card upgrade
-- Original message -- Subject: G5 Video card upgrade Date:Montag 19 Juli 2010N From:Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com What card (Apple please) would be a nice upgrade for my early 2005 G5 power Mac? Jeff There is a ATI Radeon X800 Mac Edition, but it costs quite a large amount of $$$ on eBay, so I'd reconsider twice. Also, I'm not sure about the screen resolution it supports for your proposed Apple display. I don't know so much about the nVidia cards thou. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Plain text format
Wasn't this supposed to go away? Amanda Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: James Therrault jetas...@netzero.com Sender: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:39:09 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Plain text format On Jul 19, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Doug McNutt wrote: Please Content-Type text/plain describes a mail message that, as delivered, contains zero, nada, no, precisely no, information about the font and size in which the email was sent. You're missing the entire point. I never implied that such information was ommitted. The font used for display by the client software is totally, absolutely, firmly, decided at the time the display is prepared as a screen image. I have never implied such as well. JT Refinance Now 3.7% FIXED $160,000 Mortgage for $547/mo. FREE. No Obligation. Get 4 Quotes! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4c44c4d611efa34ff1cst05duc -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Plain text format
At 4:18 PM +0100 7/19/2010, pdimage wrote: ... My default is Lucinda 14, btw. I hope you mean Lucida 14 - Lucinda 14 sounds like straying into Jerry Lee Lewis territory. I may try Lucida - Monaco is not the prettiest by any means... ROFL. Font menus always seem to display in tiny sizes that are very difficult for me to read. I've been calling it Lucinda all these years! Yes, Lucida Grande is what I meant. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Plain text format
At 3:36 PM -0500 7/19/2010, James Therrault wrote: However, Dan's emails appear to be in courier, (non proportional), whereas other emails that I get are delivered as written/formatted. I send in plain text. It is YOUR client that is applying the font. I have my mail client set to use Lucida as the default display font, just as you have yours set to use Courier. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Video card upgrade
Mac User #330250 wrote: There is a ATI Radeon X800 Mac Edition, but it costs quite a large amount of $$$ on eBay, so I'd reconsider twice. Also, I'm not sure about the screen resolution it supports for your proposed Apple display. Your post caused me to look around and I too found the ATI Radeon X800 XT Mac Edition, from what I've read it's a little bit better than the GeForce 6800 Ultra and cheaper too. If I had to replace my 6800 Ultra I think the X800 XT is what I would go with. Luckily my Power Mac is still under warranty if you can believe that. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, PPC 7455 @ 1.25 GHz, 2 GB PC 2700 RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR VRAM PowerBook 15 DL-SD, PPC 7447B @ 1.67 GHz, 2 GB PC2 4200 DDR2 RAM, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR VRAM Power Mac June 04, PPC 970fx DP @2.0 GHz, 8 GB PC 3200 DDR RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Plain text format
Amanda Ward wrote: Wasn't this supposed to go away? Yes, this thread has been killed twice now. PLEASE STOP! Take it off list if you must. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, PPC 7455 @ 1.25 GHz, 2 GB PC 2700 RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR VRAM PowerBook 15 DL-SD, PPC 7447B @ 1.67 GHz, 2 GB PC2 4200 DDR2 RAM, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR VRAM Power Mac June 04, PPC 970fx DP @2.0 GHz, 8 GB PC 3200 DDR RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB VRAM -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Change machine specific installer requirements
First -- There is NO dilemma. You must keep in mind the difference between the software LICENSE and the software MEDIA. At 11:32 PM +0200 7/19/2010, Mac User #330250 wrote: So according to the computer police if you lost the disks over the years by law you must destroy that orphaned Mac?? Don't be absurd. My approach is this: because the original software will only run on this model of Mac, it is always okay to install a copy of the shipped Mac OS on this very Mac. Correct! Okay, suppose you bought the Mac on eBay. The seller was a bit greedy and wants to sell the installation discs separately to make more money. Turn his a** in for piracy. There we are again, you can safely install a *copy* of the shipped Mac OS version on your Mac without the original discs. So you have a machine with no media... What are your options? The official thing to do would be to contact Apple and ask for replacement media. They have 'em! Ya just gotta pay for shipping. Or, if you already have a like machine, you could use its media. Then there are the gray market pulls... If someone has a dead Mac, that they're parting out... it's a bit of a gray area, but semi-legal to purchase that dead Mac's media for your like-mac. The key here is that Apple doesn't pursue these cases... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: ventrilo and g5 tower
I use vent for other purposes, and my line in doesnt work. Dunno why. DP 2.5 Sent from a computer running either the SPARC, Itanium, or PowerPC architecture. On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 3:05 PM, flags macso...@brightok.net wrote: does anyone use venrilo with world of warcraft on a G5 tower? I'm having microphone problems to headset. I can seem to get sound out. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Plain text format
Dan wrote: At 4:20 PM -0600 7/19/2010, Tina K. wrote: Amanda Ward wrote: Wasn't this supposed to go away? Yes, this thread has been killed twice now. PLEASE STOP! Take it off list if you must. This is not that other thread. Do you have an objection to a reasonable discussion about how fonting and such works in emails? Sorry, in my client both similar subjects are lumped together. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, PPC 7455 @ 1.25 GHz, 2 GB PC 2700 RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR VRAM PowerBook 15 DL-SD, PPC 7447B @ 1.67 GHz, 2 GB PC2 4200 DDR2 RAM, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR VRAM Power Mac June 04, PPC 970fx DP @2.0 GHz, 8 GB PC 3200 DDR RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB VRAM -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
