Re: Video card advice for MDD and/or Digital Audio
And just one more viewpoint: Why not buy another Radeon 9000 and spend the savings on maxing out the DA’s RAM? I’m not sure if the DA is faster than the MDD in actual practice, though. The processor isn’t that much faster, and the bus speed is slower. I think you’ve got two pretty equal machines there. At the moment, I’m trying to figure out which of these two is faster: a 466 DA or a 2x500 GigE. I took the video card and HD from the DA to the GigE to really find out. It’s similar to your situation--at a lower level--because the GigE has a slower system bus and a faster processor. And you know what? I hardly notice any difference, if at all. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
MDD G4 Power Supply variations
I have a pair of Dual 1.25 MHz MDD G4's which have been my graphics workhorses since I bought them new. Recently the power supplies failed on them both within a few days of each other. I removed the power supplies and was surprised to find that the power supply in the first computer I bought is an AcBel 400 Watt Rev B and the power supply in the second one I bought a few months later is an AcBel 360 Watt Rev A. Does anyone know why Apple used two different power supplies in two virtually identical G4's? Or which one is the better power supply? Did they have problems with the 360 W and replace it with the equally undependable 400 W? These AcBel power supplies were made in China. Doing a little reading I quickly discovered that Apple had problems with them immediately. There is an online service, National Ram Electronics, that repairs the AcBel G4 power supplies. Does anyone know if these bits of Chinese junk are worth repairing? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD G4 Power Supply variations
At 1:22 PM -0400 10/7/2010, James Morgan wrote: I have a pair of Dual 1.25 MHz MDD G4's which have been my graphics workhorses since I bought them new. Recently the power supplies failed on them both within a few days of each other. Were the Macs purchased and put into service at the same time too? Two supplies gaking together is very strange - look upstream in your power chain for a blown surge protector, floating ground, etc. Don't just ignore this problem; other devices could be at risk! I removed the power supplies and was surprised to find that the power supply in the first computer I bought is an AcBel 400 Watt Rev B and the power supply in the second one I bought a few months later is an AcBel 360 Watt Rev A. Does anyone know why Apple used two different power supplies in two virtually identical G4's? Or which one is the better power supply? Did they have problems with the 360 W and replace it with the equally undependable 400 W? Apple didn't do anything other than give the contractor the specs from which to build the machine. That contractor probably ran out of the one supply and substituted another. Or perhaps the one with the bigger supply was built with video or extra HDs that required it? Could be many reasons. Either way, 40W is no big deal. There is an online service, National Ram Electronics, that repairs the AcBel G4 power supplies. Does anyone know if these bits of Chinese junk are worth repairing? Unless the repair is very simple and inexpensive, I'd just replace 'em. FWIW, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Video card advice for MDD and/or Digital Audio
Thanks for all the input! I did some serious testing and benchmarking when I got the dual 1.8 GHz G4 upgrade, and I never got it to run reliably beyond 1.6 GHz. I benchmarked at 1.53 GHz using Geekbench (CPU and memory tess), and it was 27% faster than the dual 1 GHz MDD under Tiger, 19% faster under Leopard. 1.6 GHz is just 4.5% faster than 1.53 GHz, so a 1.25 GHz MDD would probably provide equal performance overall under Leopard, although it would take a 1.42 GHz MDD/FW800 to match Tiger performance. http://lowendmac.com/reviews/09rev/giga-1.8-ghz-dual.html The ideal would be a pair of 1.42 GHz FireWire 800 models with maximum RAM. Based on all the feedback, I'm leaning toward another Radeon 9000 Pro for the MDD and bumping RAM in the DA from 1.25 MB to 1.5 MB. I may also look for used 1.25 GHz and 1.42 GHz models. Craigslist can have some great deals! (I got my 22 Cinema Display with a Quicksilver 867 MHz for $175 through Craigslist, then sold the Quicksilver for $100. I love this display!) Thanks again! Dan On Oct 7, 8:27 am, Geke gevangaste...@googlemail.com wrote: And just one more viewpoint: Why not buy another Radeon 9000 and spend the savings on maxing out the DA’s RAM? I’m not sure if the DA is faster than the MDD in actual practice, though. The processor isn’t that much faster, and the bus speed is slower. I think you’ve got two pretty equal machines there. At the moment, I’m trying to figure out which of these two is faster: a 466 DA or a 2x500 GigE. I took the video card and HD from the DA to the GigE to really find out. It’s similar to your situation--at a lower level--because the GigE has a slower system bus and a faster processor. And you know what? I hardly notice any difference, if at all. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: BAD: Digital Audio Won't Power On
No worries, I discovered it's a bad power button board. Shorted pins 3 and 6, it powered right on. Thanks all! Matt Rhinesmith Sent from my iBook G3 Indigo iBook G3 Clamshell Ariel 366 MHz PPC 750CX (G3) CPU 576 MB RAM 30 GB HDD Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger On Oct 7, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Dan wrote: At 4:39 PM -0600 10/6/2010, Matt Rhinesmith wrote: 733 MHz DA, running Leopard 10.5.8. I was [doin Stuff to the hardware then lost power]. Now, I can't get it to boot at all, and the only way I can get it to even power on is to put one of the AGP 8X video cards (sans tape) into it. If pins 3 11 are taped or I use the original card, nada. When it powers on, I get no disk activity and no video (even from the card that just displays gibberish). Help, I need this machine for school! When it does power on, do you hear the self-test completed bong, or perhaps individual beeps or an odd chord? Try a hard reset: Disconnect all unnecessary peripherals and cards. Unplug the computer. Reset the Power Manager (PMU) by pressing the CUDA button ONCE -- *or* removing the PRAM Battery for a minute then reinstalling it. Then plug the computer in, wait about 10 secs, then try booting it. If that still fails to boot, then try zapping the PRAM (hold down cmd-opt-p-r while booting). PS. I posted a topic in the G-Books group about AirPort on this iBook, but still have no replies, I'd appreciate it if someone would give me some help. I didn't receive that post and I'm too lazy to go into the web interface to browse around for it; could have been eaten by the Googlehole. Try re-posting. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD G4 Power Supply variations
I bought one MDD G4, found I needed a second one, bought the second one a couple or three months later. Thereafter I used them both, side by side, rather heavily. So both received virtually the same use and they are almost the same age. I put in new battery backups to address the possibilities you raised. Some have suggested that the 400 W power supply was brought out as a quieter system to address G4 noise complaints? I am considering scrapping these G4's because used power supplies on eBay are costing close to $150.00 with shipping. These power supplies have a poor service record and a used one is a risky investment. I presume that new ones are going to cost more than the G4's are worth? National Ram Electronics will repair G4 power supplies for $90.00 each and that seems to be the minimum cost to put the G4's back in service. === On Oct 7, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Dan wrote: At 1:22 PM -0400 10/7/2010, James Morgan wrote: I have a pair of Dual 1.25 MHz MDD G4's which have been my graphics workhorses since I bought them new. Recently the power supplies failed on them both within a few days of each other. Were the Macs purchased and put into service at the same time too? Two supplies gaking together is very strange - look upstream in your power chain for a blown surge protector, floating ground, etc. Don't just ignore this problem; other devices could be at risk! I removed the power supplies and was surprised to find that the power supply in the first computer I bought is an AcBel 400 Watt Rev B and the power supply in the second one I bought a few months later is an AcBel 360 Watt Rev A. Does anyone know why Apple used two different power supplies in two virtually identical G4's? Or which one is the better power supply? Did they have problems with the 360 W and replace it with the equally undependable 400 W? Apple didn't do anything other than give the contractor the specs from which to build the machine. That contractor probably ran out of the one supply and substituted another. Or perhaps the one with the bigger supply was built with video or extra HDs that required it? Could be many reasons. Either way, 40W is no big deal. There is an online service, National Ram Electronics, that repairs the AcBel G4 power supplies. Does anyone know if these bits of Chinese junk are worth repairing? Unless the repair is very simple and inexpensive, I'd just replace 'em. FWIW, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD G4 Power Supply variations
James Morgan wrote: I bought one MDD G4, found I needed a second one, bought the second one a couple or three months later. Thereafter I used them both, side by side, rather heavily. So both received virtually the same use and they are almost the same age. I put in new battery backups to address the possibilities you raised. Some have suggested that the 400 W power supply was brought out as a quieter system to address G4 noise complaints? I am considering scrapping these G4's because used power supplies on eBay are costing close to $150.00 with shipping. These power supplies have a poor service record and a used one is a risky investment. I presume that new ones are going to cost more than the G4's are worth? National Ram Electronics will repair G4 power supplies for $90.00 each and that seems to be the minimum cost to put the G4's back in service. Or you could convert generic ATX PSUs to work:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xICg592xJTg HTH Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Quicksilver issue
Mac: G4 Quicksilver (800 MHz) 1.5 GB SDRAM 3 HD, 1 CD-ROM USB Ports have 5 USB sticks, a Memory Card and my Olmpus Digital Camera plugged into them (see below for detail) plus the KB Back of the Mac has a port which has 1 card plus the Olypus. Also has a cord to a non-Powered Hub. This has a Powered Hub plugged into it. (I need a 5V cord to power this thing and cannot find one) Powered Hub has 2 USB Sticks plugged into it, KP has the Memory Card and my Logitech USB Mouse PROBLEM: First off, this NEVER happens when I use the machine When I am away it randomly shuts down. It is NOT set to sleep under Energy Saver Under System Preferences I see nothing about shutting down Now, I blew out (with me providing the air) what little dust was inside (I will get a new can of air today) and under the tower. What else can I do? I have not had this problem until recently (never with the Smurf or previous machines, some of which had many more HDs hooked up (externally but same power strip) -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Quicksilver issue
-- Original message -- Subject: Quicksilver issue Date:Donnerstag 07 Oktober 2010N From:Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Mac: G4 Quicksilver (800 MHz) 1.5 GB SDRAM Mine is a Power Mac G3 BW 350 MHz PCI 1.0 GB SDRAM 3 HD, 1 CD-ROM 1 HD, 1 CD-ROM USB Ports have 5 USB sticks, a Memory Card and my Olmpus Digital Camera plugged into them (see below for detail) plus the KB I use a USB 2.0 PCI card in addition to the two USB 1.x ports. The keyboard is connected to one USB 1.x port, the mouse is connected to the second USB 1.x board. Back of the Mac has a port which has 1 card plus the Olypus. Also has a cord to a non-Powered Hub. This has a Powered Hub plugged into it. (I need a 5V cord to power this thing and cannot find one) I have a powered hub connected to one USB 2.0 port of the USB PCI card. The power cable is not plugged into the hub though for reasons … read on! Powered Hub has 2 USB Sticks plugged into it, KP has the Memory Card and my Logitech USB Mouse My hub has an external 2.5 hard disk plugged into it or a memory sick or two or three… PROBLEM: First off, this NEVER happens when I use the machine When I am away it randomly shuts down. It is NOT set to sleep under Energy Saver Under System Preferences I see nothing about shutting down My PROBLEM: The Power Mac doesn't even start when I press the button IF the hub is connected to its 5V external power unit. If I unplug it, it starts just fine (with a chime…). Now, I blew out (with me providing the air) what little dust was inside (I will get a new can of air today) and under the tower. I did that too. What else can I do? I have not had this problem until recently (never with the Smurf or previous machines, some of which had many more HDs hooked up (externally but same power strip) No idea. When it comes to USB stuff some computers act just strangely. I had a laptop that rebooted reproducibly if I touchted the USB port with an external USB device – must have shorted some circuit or something. No damage done, just lost all unsaved files :-( But if you find something: I'm interested too! I know that was no help at all… Sorry. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Quicksilver issue
On my MDD G4's one of the early symptoms of the failing power supply was that the computer would just unexpectedly shut down. == On Oct 7, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: Mac: G4 Quicksilver (800 MHz) 1.5 GB SDRAM 3 HD, 1 CD-ROM USB Ports have 5 USB sticks, a Memory Card and my Olmpus Digital Camera plugged into them (see below for detail) plus the KB Back of the Mac has a port which has 1 card plus the Olypus. Also has a cord to a non-Powered Hub. This has a Powered Hub plugged into it. (I need a 5V cord to power this thing and cannot find one) Powered Hub has 2 USB Sticks plugged into it, KP has the Memory Card and my Logitech USB Mouse PROBLEM: First off, this NEVER happens when I use the machine When I am away it randomly shuts down. It is NOT set to sleep under Energy Saver Under System Preferences I see nothing about shutting down Now, I blew out (with me providing the air) what little dust was inside (I will get a new can of air today) and under the tower. What else can I do? I have not had this problem until recently (never with the Smurf or previous machines, some of which had many more HDs hooked up (externally but same power strip) -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Quicksilver issue
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:36 PM, James Morgan macsh...@mac.com wrote: On my MDD G4's one of the early symptoms of the failing power supply was that the computer would just unexpectedly shut down. Well, this only happens when I am not using it. Any way to check (that does not involve paying someone)? I am looking for a nice multi-tip power cord so I can plug in the other hub. Walmart used to sell them but the only ones they sell now are for use in your car, you plug them into your cigarette lighter. == On Oct 7, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: Mac: G4 Quicksilver (800 MHz) 1.5 GB SDRAM 3 HD, 1 CD-ROM USB Ports have 5 USB sticks, a Memory Card and my Olmpus Digital Camera plugged into them (see below for detail) plus the KB Back of the Mac has a port which has 1 card plus the Olypus. Also has a cord to a non-Powered Hub. This has a Powered Hub plugged into it. (I need a 5V cord to power this thing and cannot find one) Powered Hub has 2 USB Sticks plugged into it, KP has the Memory Card and my Logitech USB Mouse PROBLEM: First off, this NEVER happens when I use the machine When I am away it randomly shuts down. It is NOT set to sleep under Energy Saver Under System Preferences I see nothing about shutting down Now, I blew out (with me providing the air) what little dust was inside (I will get a new can of air today) and under the tower. What else can I do? I have not had this problem until recently (never with the Smurf or previous machines, some of which had many more HDs hooked up (externally but same power strip) -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: BAD: Digital Audio Won't Power On
Squirt some WD-40 on the switch and it might magically start working again. JT On Oct 7, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Matt Rhinesmith wrote: No worries, I discovered it's a bad power button board. Shorted pins 3 and 6, it powered right on. Thanks all! Matt Rhinesmith Sent from my iBook G3 Indigo iBook G3 Clamshell Ariel 366 MHz PPC 750CX (G3) CPU 576 MB RAM 30 GB HDD Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger On Oct 7, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Dan wrote: At 4:39 PM -0600 10/6/2010, Matt Rhinesmith wrote: 733 MHz DA, running Leopard 10.5.8. I was [doin Stuff to the hardware then lost power]. Now, I can't get it to boot at all, and the only way I can get it to even power on is to put one of the AGP 8X video cards (sans tape) into it. If pins 3 11 are taped or I use the original card, nada. When it powers on, I get no disk activity and no video (even from the card that just displays gibberish). Help, I need this machine for school! When it does power on, do you hear the self-test completed bong, or perhaps individual beeps or an odd chord? Try a hard reset: Disconnect all unnecessary peripherals and cards. Unplug the computer. Reset the Power Manager (PMU) by pressing the CUDA button ONCE -- *or* removing the PRAM Battery for a minute then reinstalling it. Then plug the computer in, wait about 10 secs, then try booting it. If that still fails to boot, then try zapping the PRAM (hold down cmd-opt-p-r while booting). PS. I posted a topic in the G-Books group about AirPort on this iBook, but still have no replies, I'd appreciate it if someone would give me some help. I didn't receive that post and I'm too lazy to go into the web interface to browse around for it; could have been eaten by the Googlehole. Try re-posting. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/ netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list DEAL OF THE YEAR: 2010 Honda Civic for $1,734.09 SPECIAL REPORT: High ticket items are being auctioned for an incredible 90% off! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4cae4a71cb09916d0e3st05vuc -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD G4 Power Supply variations
On 2010/10/07 12:11, Dan wrote: Unless the repair is very simple and inexpensive, I'd just replace 'em. Can MDD PSUs be replaced with a common ATX PSU with nothing more than a connector swap, or do they have a specialized output like the G3 iMacs did to power the sound? Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Quicksilver issue
My MDD G4's also only shut down when I was not using them. But after a while they began to occasionally refuse to start. Got a glowing light in the start button when I pushed it but no start. This progressed to no starting at all. The shutting down on it's own was the beginning of the end. I went through guilt trips. I thought maybe I had not kept the G4's clean enough and had overheated them. Ect. Then I found out the power supply in the MDD G4's have issues and it wasn't my fault. I don't know of any way to check to see if it is a failing power supply but I certainly recommend that you back up your entire computer to an external hard drive. And start watching for a good used power supply. = On Oct 7, 2010, at 5:42 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:36 PM, James Morgan macsh...@mac.com wrote: On my MDD G4's one of the early symptoms of the failing power supply was that the computer would just unexpectedly shut down. Well, this only happens when I am not using it. Any way to check (that does not involve paying someone)? I am looking for a nice multi-tip power cord so I can plug in the other hub. Walmart used to sell them but the only ones they sell now are for use in your car, you plug them into your cigarette lighter. == On Oct 7, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: Mac: G4 Quicksilver (800 MHz) 1.5 GB SDRAM 3 HD, 1 CD-ROM USB Ports have 5 USB sticks, a Memory Card and my Olmpus Digital Camera plugged into them (see below for detail) plus the KB Back of the Mac has a port which has 1 card plus the Olypus. Also has a cord to a non-Powered Hub. This has a Powered Hub plugged into it. (I need a 5V cord to power this thing and cannot find one) Powered Hub has 2 USB Sticks plugged into it, KP has the Memory Card and my Logitech USB Mouse PROBLEM: First off, this NEVER happens when I use the machine When I am away it randomly shuts down. It is NOT set to sleep under Energy Saver Under System Preferences I see nothing about shutting down Now, I blew out (with me providing the air) what little dust was inside (I will get a new can of air today) and under the tower. What else can I do? I have not had this problem until recently (never with the Smurf or previous machines, some of which had many more HDs hooked up (externally but same power strip) -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/ netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Thinking of buying a G5 dual for PR but quick question
I am thinking of scooping up locally a powermac G5 2.0 DP PCI-X 2 with bad cpu it has been tested at apple and thats what the tech told the owner. My question is can I purchase a different CPU like a 1.8 and install it? Any help would be useful and if I'm asking a poor question just inform me thanks much for the help. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Quicksilver issue
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 8:33 PM, James Morgan macsh...@mac.com wrote: My MDD G4's also only shut down when I was not using them. But after a while they began to occasionally refuse to start. Got a glowing light in the start button when I pushed it but no start. This progressed to no starting at all. The shutting down on it's own was the beginning of the end. I went through guilt trips. I thought maybe I had not kept the G4's clean enough and had overheated them. Ect. Then I found out the power supply in the MDD G4's have issues and it wasn't my fault. I don't know of any way to check to see if it is a failing power supply but I certainly recommend that you back up your entire computer to an external hard drive. And start watching for a good used power supply. Well, it will start up but sometimes I need to unplug the USB drives to get it to see the main HD (as the start-up HD I do believe) As for a new PS, I'd have no idea how to install one. = On Oct 7, 2010, at 5:42 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:36 PM, James Morgan macsh...@mac.com wrote: On my MDD G4's one of the early symptoms of the failing power supply was that the computer would just unexpectedly shut down. Well, this only happens when I am not using it. Any way to check (that does not involve paying someone)? I am looking for a nice multi-tip power cord so I can plug in the other hub. Walmart used to sell them but the only ones they sell now are for use in your car, you plug them into your cigarette lighter. == On Oct 7, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: Mac: G4 Quicksilver (800 MHz) 1.5 GB SDRAM 3 HD, 1 CD-ROM USB Ports have 5 USB sticks, a Memory Card and my Olmpus Digital Camera plugged into them (see below for detail) plus the KB Back of the Mac has a port which has 1 card plus the Olypus. Also has a cord to a non-Powered Hub. This has a Powered Hub plugged into it. (I need a 5V cord to power this thing and cannot find one) Powered Hub has 2 USB Sticks plugged into it, KP has the Memory Card and my Logitech USB Mouse PROBLEM: First off, this NEVER happens when I use the machine When I am away it randomly shuts down. It is NOT set to sleep under Energy Saver Under System Preferences I see nothing about shutting down Now, I blew out (with me providing the air) what little dust was inside (I will get a new can of air today) and under the tower. What else can I do? I have not had this problem until recently (never with the Smurf or previous machines, some of which had many more HDs hooked up (externally but same power strip) -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --
Re: BAD: Digital Audio Won't Power On
Squirt some WD-40 on the switch and it might magically start working again. Naw, it's the microprocessor on the board. I checked for continuity on the switch, it works properly. It could also be the cable between the board and the MB, but I have no easy way to check that. Matt Rhinesmith Sent from my iBook G3 Indigo iBook G3 Clamshell Ariel 366 MHz PPC 750CX (G3) CPU 576 MB RAM 30 GB HDD Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Quicksilver issue
On 10/7/10 8:33 PM, James Morgan wrote: My MDD G4's also only shut down when I was not using them. But after a while they began to occasionally refuse to start. Got a glowing light in the start button when I pushed it but no start. This progressed to no starting at all. The shutting down on it's own was the beginning of the end. I went through guilt trips. I thought maybe I had not kept the G4's clean enough and had overheated them. Ect. Then I found out the power supply in the MDD G4's have issues and it wasn't my fault. I don't know of any way to check to see if it is a failing power supply but I certainly recommend that you back up your entire computer to an external hard drive. And start watching for a good used power supply. How old is the pram battery? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Thinking of buying a G5 dual for PR but quick question
On 2010/10/07 18:52, bryan adkins wrote: I am thinking of scooping up locally a powermac G5 2.0 DP PCI-X 2 with bad cpu it has been tested at apple and thats what the tech told the owner. My question is can I purchase a different CPU like a 1.8 and install it? Any help would be useful and if I'm asking a poor question just inform me thanks much for the help. I'm totally guessing here but if it is indeed a DP, and not a DC, running one CPU at 2.0 GHz and the other at a different speed would not be my first choice of 'fixes.' I would think that a replacement single core 2.0 GHz would be the safest way to go, maybe someone with more experience can elaborate on your options. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
