Re: G4 iMac won't connect wirelessly to internet
t??? It appears your iMac doesn't have an Airport card installed? If you're lucky and have a USB 2.0 G4 iMac you can use faster Airport cards or even used a USB wireless adapater. It might be smarter to use a USB adapter, generally any with a Broadcom chipset can be recognized in OS X identically as Apple Airport using all the built-in OS X software. Otherwise, an Airport Extreme 802.11b/g card is the OEM card for the USB 2.0 G4 iMac, although there may be newer 802.11n cards that fit, I don't know? If you're unlucky and have a prior model with only USB 1.1 you're kinda stuck. These use an original Airport 802.11b card, and the USB is too slow to go any faster than 802.11b, so even though you could use a faster USB adapter, it would still be going slowly because of the USB limitation. You can open up the iMac and look for the Airport card, and if there's not one installed and you need wireless, buying an original Airport 802.11b card is probably the best solution. The fastest solution will be to use the wired ethernet cable at 100 Mbps. Well I got around the slow AirPort b and the USB 1.1 dealio by connecting a G4 cube to my LAN using a Ethernet Bridge made by LinkSys it produces almost G speed a whole lot faster than AirPort b and USB 1.1 dongle. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA From TiBook 867 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Desktop wallpaper for that bigger screen...
Dan, et All G'day! to All.. Anyone gots some recommendations / favs? I've mostly always used: http://macdesktops.com/ after finding an appealing wallpaper's thumbnail, just click to reveal all the sizes available, then option-click on your needed 1680 x 1050 to download, follow up by tossing it/them into a handy folder in your user's Pictures, enjoy. (note: if you're using a multi-displays setup, grab each size needed to pick on separate Display sets in System Preferances if you'd like them neatly matching, even when not mirrored;-) All the Best of The Season to All Respectful of GURUs Bill Cornett Rust Never Sleeps -N. Young / -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: RJ 45 Aggravation Update
I do, I think part of my problem is I only work on this stuff every several years or so. Thanks On Dec 20, 2010, at 9:38 PM, gifutiger wrote: Greetings May I ask if you have a pair of RJ-45 crimpers? They usually include a place to cut the cable prior to laying the wires into the RJ-45 connector. Cheers Harry San Jose, Ca (`-''-/).___ ..- -''`.. _ ( 6_ 6 )`-.( ``-._.-`) (_Y_.)'._ ) `._ `.'``-..-' ` `_..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' ,-'' ,' (((.-' fl On Dec 19, 3:08 pm, smac0031 m.smurph...@gmail.com wrote: I finally got this work. Why this didn't work the first time or any of the other times, I don't know. Instead of cutting across cable with a utility knife I cut the insulation parallel with scissors and then cut the insulation away without taking a chance with scoring the individual wires. Then I made sure I did the wires a pair at a time, brown, orange, green and blue. The only problem I have is the line going to my TIVO. When I did the test #7 and 8 were dead. I was going to quit with the whole thing but I plugged the line into the TIVO and the pilot light on the adapter came on. The TIVO is back on the internet and is fully functional. Beats me. How many of the pairs does RJ 45 use? Anyway, the installation looks neat. The other main line I use works with all four pairs like its supposed to. Mark Murphy -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dead computer??
On Dec 21, 2010, at 4:06 PM, DAN A CURRIE wrote: My sons MDD 1.25 dualie 2GB RAM running 10.5 has died. We had a electrical storm a couple of days ago so I unplugged it, forgot to plug it in until today, when I did and pressed the start button, NOTHING! Put a new MB battery in it and pressed the button again, NOTHING! I have never had a computer die and this is my old computer and it is lean and well maintained. Ideas and suggestions welcome, Take out the PRAM batt and disconnect all cables, Remove the RAM and press the CUDA switch for 15 secs, it's next to the battery. Reassemble with 1 RAM stick and see if it boots. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA carmo...@aol.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Ticking PSU - Quicksilver G4
Not sure how to dredge up an old thread since I receive the digest so cannot hit reply to an individual topic. I had a problem a few weeks ago with a ticking PSU on my quicksilver and was advised to replace with either a stock psu or adapt an atx power supply. In the end I went down the conversion route and after a few hours wasted pushing staples down atx connectors I gave up and bought a connector from Ebay. This came with instructions for fitting (swap round the 4 pin power connector, another half hour with the staples) and connect the casing fan to a spare connection (about 5 minutes work with cable-strippers and insulating tape) Pretty stress free really, with the only permanent alteration being the fan connection. I have the case open with the atx unit sat next to the machine and it runs great now. There is no 25v supply provided but i've not missed this (i think it is only required for sleep mode) If anyone finds themselves in the same situation, i got the cable for around £10 from an ebay seller called jennys79 on the UK Ebay site. Anyway, thanks again for all the information from the group. Nick -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dead computer??
On Tuesday, December 21, 2010 9:37:48 PM UTC-5, Eric wrote: On 12/21/10 7:06 PM, DAN A CURRIE of dan...@frontiernet.net sent ...pressed the start button, NOTHING! Hi Dan, Hold C, or X or Command-Option-Shift-Delete, T for target disk mode, or N if you want to try netbooting.Hold down Option to display icons for all available bootable volumes. Try a super-reset by zapping the PRAM 3 times in a row Try fsck -y: At startup hold down -Command-S keys If he can't get it to START, I don't see how any of that can work. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dead computer??
do as john suggests, except let it sit for at least a day or even two with all cables disconnected from mobo. make sure PRAM battery is good before you reinstall it. no guarantee that it will in your case, but i have personally seen this work. On Dec 21, 7:14 pm, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: Take out the PRAM batt and disconnect all cables, Remove the RAM and press the CUDA switch for 15 secs, it's next to the battery. Reassemble with 1 RAM stick and see if it boots. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dead computer??
My sons MDD 1.25 dualie 2GB RAM running 10.5 has died. ...pressed the start button, NOTHING! Put a new MB battery in it and pressed the button again, NOTHING! ...make it start off the DVD, external HD, another computer, your network... Hold C, or X or Command-Option-Shift-Delete, T for target disk mode, or N if you want to try netbooting. Hold down Option to display icons for all available bootable volumes. Try a super-reset by zapping the PRAM 3 times in a row COOF should bring up a Unix command line prompt (%). ... Type: reset-nvram return set-defaults return reset-all return Try fsck -y: At startup hold down -Command-S keys If they can't get the machine to start, how are they to perform any of the above? :-) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
MDD has k-panic then won't restart Was: Dead computer??
On Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:06:37 PM UTC-5, Dan II wrote: My sons MDD 1.25 dualie 2GB RAM running 10.5 has died. We had a electrical storm a couple of days ago so I unplugged it, forgot to plug it in until today, when I did and pressed the start button, NOTHING! Put a new MB battery in it and pressed the button again, NOTHING! The power button (Front Panel Board) could be at fault. I have had similar experiences with both of my 1.25 MDDs. Had to force them to shut-down after kernel panics. Then when I pushed the power button nothing happened. Thinking it was the obvious, I replaced the battery and it restarted. Couple days later, the same thing. After about the third or fourth event, I discovered that just pulling out the power cord and waiting a few seconds would rectify the situation. How do you explain that? I subsequently reinstalled the system (10.4) to correct a non-functioning audio on the DP machine and have had no more occurences of the failure to restart. However, the single processor 1.25 MDD continues to refuse to restart after a power-button-force-quit following a kernel panic. Pulling the 120AC cord for at least 10 seconds allows a normal restart. MDD 1.25 single processor, pre-2003, 2-gig RAM, OSX 10.4 MDD 1.25 DP, pre-2003, 2-gig RAM, now with OSX 10.5 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
classic or no classic in leopard?
hi all, i run tiger on all my macs (G4's G5's) except for the 2010 intelmac (10.6.4), but i have been thinking of getting 10.5 for the older ones. however, i use a number of classic apps regularly, and i don't remember if 10.5 supports the classic environment or not. i tried checking the apple website, and found two articles that seem to contradict one another. one says no classic in 10.5, the other implies there is. http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1929 is anyone running the classic environment under 10.5? is it officially supported or is there a hack? TIA for replies. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: classic or no classic in leopard?
On Dec 22, 2010, at 11:43 AM, ah...clem wrote: hi all, i run tiger on all my macs (G4's G5's) except for the 2010 intelmac (10.6.4), but i have been thinking of getting 10.5 for the older ones. however, i use a number of classic apps regularly, and i don't remember if 10.5 supports the classic environment or not. i tried checking the apple website, and found two articles that seem to contradict one another. one says no classic in 10.5, the other implies there is. Classic is gone under 10.5, the mention of 10.5 in that KB article is absolutely in error. You can install OS 9.0.4 or lower in Sheepshaver http://sheepshaver.cebix.net/. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: classic or no classic in leopard?
At 12:31 PM -0700 12/22/2010, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 22, 2010, at 11:43 AM, ah...clem wrote: i run tiger on all my macs (G4's G5's) except for the 2010 intelmac (10.6.4), but i have been thinking of getting 10.5 for the older ones. however, i use a number of classic apps regularly, and i don't remember if 10.5 supports the classic environment or not. i tried checking the apple website, and found two articles that seem to contradict one another. one says no classic in 10.5, the other implies there is. Classic is gone under 10.5, the mention of 10.5 in that KB article is absolutely in error. You can install OS 9.0.4 or lower in Sheepshaver http://sheepshaver.cebix.net/. I've found Sheepshaver to be sluggish and/or crashy - depending on what apps you're trying to use. IMO, best to run a test or to name the specific apps involved and hope someone on these lists can confirm that those particular apps are ok or not... FWIW, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: classic or no classic in leopard?
On Dec 22, 2010, at 3:42 PM, Dan wrote: I've found Sheepshaver to be sluggish and/or crashy Sure that isn't just the experience of using OS 9 after living with OS X for so long? gdr -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: classic or no classic in leopard?
I have not tried it myself, but wouldn't dual booting being an option? Then you could just boot into whichever OS you need at the time. On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Dec 22, 2010, at 3:42 PM, Dan wrote: I've found Sheepshaver to be sluggish and/or crashy Sure that isn't just the experience of using OS 9 after living with OS X for so long? gdr -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
New internal hard drive for Power Mac G4
About time I discovered Low End Mac and this group, after 10+ years of owning a G4. My question: What are my limitations in terms of selecting a new hard drive that I can install without any additional upgrades/replacement as far as ATA, Ultra ATA/100, SATA and all that (giving myself away here) goes? I have had good experience with Seagate - if you can specifically recommend one of their models that would work with my Power Mac G4 Sawtooth (I think - see below) 450 mHz single- processor, please do. Capacity (120 GB or so would be nice) is less of an issue than hassle-free compatibility. If it matters, I'm running Mac OS X Tiger 10.4.11. Background: In 2000, I (we - I was married then) purchased a new Gigabyte Ethernet Power Mac G4. Until December 1 of this year, the only problems I ever had were a hard drive failure and the apparent death of the installed Zip Drive. Then, the internal power supply died without warning. I brought it to an authorized service provider, intending to have them repair or replace the power supply. Before they attempted this, they called to tell me they had a similar machine they could swap my hard drives (2) and RAM into. Waiting to have the power supply issue addressed - IF it could be addressed - would have meant waiting another 2 weeks or more. Time was of the essence. I hated to give up my original G4 - surely a bad deal if I was a trader or collector - but I needed a home computer back up in less than 2 weeks or a month or whatever the power supply issue required (and no, I wasn't interested in tackling that replacement myself - just not a good time for such a project.) So now I have a new old machine that seems to be in excellent condition, but also a new problem - alarming noises from both of the hard drives (I've been using one to entirely back up the other and rotating them). The noise is like that of a car engine idling irregularly. The whirring varies in frequency and sometimes sounds very labored. No clicks or grinding. The hard drives are both 6 years old, which makes me think I should suspect the health of the hard drives ahead of suspecting the repair shop of improper installation or of swapping my drives/RAM into a lemon. Straighten me out if I'm overlooking anything, which is likely. More background: I want this G4 to last for (at least) the 6 months it's going to be before I can afford a new Mac, at which point I plan for it to go into semi-retirement as an external storage device and guinea pig for tinkering (if you were I and had my technical skills, you'd save the tinkering for a secondary computer). All suggestions and comments are welcome, but particularly those pertaining to the original question, as I'm finding it surprisingly difficult to find a simple compatibility answer online. I haven't kept up with the world of hard drives since installing my current ones 6 years ago. Thanks. Sean -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Carbon Copy Cloner?
I realize that this is a sort of elementary question but possibly someone will help me. Is it possible to copy the entire contents of my Hard drive to my external drive (300GB cap.) and automatically replace the files I have there, that would be duplicates but save the information that is new to my external hard drive? I have information saved on my external drive that is not stored on my computer hard drive that I would not want to lose, so erasing my external hard drive is not an option. As it is I am occupying external hard drive space by saving information I have already saved and adding to the problem that I already have. I hope I have phrased this problem so that it is somewhat understandable but I doubt it. Much obliged I'm not as young as I used to be But I'm not as old as I'm going to be! SO WATCH IT!!! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: classic or no classic in leopard?
On Dec 22, 2010, at 4:19 PM, Daniel Stewart wrote: I have not tried it myself, but wouldn't dual booting being an option? Then you could just boot into whichever OS you need at the time. Only on some of the G4's. No G5 will boot natively in OS 9, and the last model, perhaps the last two models of G4 only boot in OS X as well. I don't know if they ever got PearPC working on a PowerPC, but remotely you could run an older version of OS X inside that would let you run Classic. IMO Best bet is to just bite the dead, rotting corpse of the bullet and move past Classic already, geez. If you have some app that's both mission critical and hasn't been updated in ten years, do what we do with old old instruments going that need Win95 or WinNT: keep a stack of ancient systems piled up in the back room and cannibalize 'em as needed to keep the working system going as long as you can. Heck..it seems to be working for B-52's, the USAF is flying airframes older than I am. One article I read a while back mentioned a AF captain who was a pilot flying combat missions in the same airplane his father flew in Vietnam. Not the same *class* of aircraft, the very same aircraft. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: classic or no classic in leopard?
On Dec 22, 2010, at 6:19 PM, Daniel Stewart wrote: I have not tried it myself, but wouldn't dual booting being an option? Then you could just boot into whichever OS you need at the time. That has worked for me. Using Leopard 10.5.8, and having OS 9 Classic under Tiger 10.4.11, and going back when needed. Each on a separate partition. Doesn't seem to happen anymore, though ... the using of OS 9 ... but its there when and if needed. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: classic or no classic in leopard?
On Dec 22, 2010, at 5:09 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Dec 22, 2010, at 6:19 PM, Daniel Stewart wrote: I have not tried it myself, but wouldn't dual booting being an option? Then you could just boot into whichever OS you need at the time. That has worked for me. Using Leopard 10.5.8, and having OS 9 Classic under Tiger 10.4.11, and going back when needed. Each on a separate partition. Oh DUH! I didn't think of two versions of OSX... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: classic or no classic in leopard?
I didn't think of dual booting multiple versions of OS X either. lol Good to know about the OS9 /OS X dual boot option though. My trusty Quicksilver 2002 runs both just fine. On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Dec 22, 2010, at 5:09 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Dec 22, 2010, at 6:19 PM, Daniel Stewart wrote: I have not tried it myself, but wouldn't dual booting being an option? Then you could just boot into whichever OS you need at the time. That has worked for me. Using Leopard 10.5.8, and having OS 9 Classic under Tiger 10.4.11, and going back when needed. Each on a separate partition. Oh DUH! I didn't think of two versions of OSX... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: classic or no classic in leopard?
On Dec 22, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Daniel Stewart wrote: I didn't think of dual booting multiple versions of OS X either. lol Good to know about the OS9 /OS X dual boot option though. My trusty Quicksilver 2002 runs both just fine. My PowerMac G4 MDD Dual 1.25 boots OS.9.2.2, Tiger 10.4.11, and Leopard 10.5.8. My PowerMac G5 Dual 2.7 Boots Tiger 10.4.11 and runs Classic, it also boots Leopard 10.5.8. G4 PowerMacs with FireWire 800 and up will no longer boot OS 9 but will run Classic with Tiger. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Carbon Copy Cloner?
At 6:41 PM -0500 12/22/2010, John Callahan wrote: Is it possible to copy the entire contents of my Hard drive to my external drive (300GB cap.) and automatically replace the files I have there, that would be duplicates but save the information that is new to my external hard drive? I have information saved on my external drive that is not stored on my computer hard drive that I would not want to lose, so erasing my external hard drive is not an option. Yes. Instead of the default backup everything, tell CCC to do an Incremental Backup AND check all three boxes below that option. Those three options taken together mean that you'll end up with a clean clone that contains everything from the source plus you'll have an archive folder, called _CCC, that will contain all the files it found on the destination that weren't on the source. Those files will be neatly placed in a folder tree that is the same as where they came from originally. Additionally, any other top level folders you had will be left alone. This is the way you should do incremental backups normally. Then, once in a while, go into the _CCC folder and prune it down, as you see fit. Apple's Time Machine kindof does the same thing, btw, except that it provides a pretty browser and automatically destructively prunes without your say-so. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: classic or no classic in leopard?
On Dec 22, 2010, at 7:12 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 22, 2010, at 5:09 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Dec 22, 2010, at 6:19 PM, Daniel Stewart wrote: I have not tried it myself, but wouldn't dual booting being an option? Then you could just boot into whichever OS you need at the time. That has worked for me. Using Leopard 10.5.8, and having OS 9 Classic under Tiger 10.4.11, and going back when needed. Each on a separate partition. Oh DUH! I didn't think of two versions of OSX... - The only issue I believe is that Spotlight under Tiger starts up when you first run it, after using Leopard ... as if it's never run, if I interpret what is going on correctly. Letting it run to completion, so it doesn't show its buggy-ness, can be time consuming. All just to run an app under OS 9 Classic ... Comments welcomed. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Desktop wallpaper for that bigger screen...
Whoa...it's Bill! Nice to hear that you're still around, mate. A Happy Christmas and New Year season to you and yours. Best regards, Dana (p.s. I like MacDesktops, too, and appreciate that the good pictures are available in so many resolutions) On 12/20/10 8:25 PM, Cornett of corn...@gol.com sent Dan, et All G'day! to All.. Anyone gots some recommendations / favs? I've mostly always used: http://macdesktops.com/ after finding an appealing wallpaper's thumbnail, just click to reveal all the sizes available, then option-click on your needed 1680 x 1050 to download, follow up by tossing it/them into a handy folder in your user's Pictures, enjoy. (note: if you're using a multi-displays setup, grab each size needed to pick on separate Display sets in System Preferances if you'd like them neatly matching, even when not mirrored;-) All the Best of The Season to All Respectful of GURUs Bill Cornett Rust Never Sleeps -N. Young / -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Desktop wallpaper for that bigger screen...
Thanks all! And thanks too to those who emailed their favs to me directly - wow! Some amazing pics! A few of my old favs, I have embiggened. The rest I found at higher resolutions at the various sites. All is good in the world - my fav looks great in the bigger resolution... http://dl.dropbox.com/u/610326/JGredBaron1600x1200.jpg (from MacDesktops) - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: classic or no classic in leopard?
At 9:01 PM -0500 12/22/2010, Bill Connelly wrote: The only issue I believe is that Spotlight under Tiger starts up when you first run it, after using Leopard ... as if it's never run, if I interpret what is going on correctly. Letting it run to completion, so it doesn't show its buggy-ness, can be time consuming. All just to run an app under OS 9 Classic ... Comments welcomed. So disable the indexing. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Desktop wallpaper for that bigger screen...
On Dec 22, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: All is good in the world - my fav looks great in the bigger resolution... http://dl.dropbox.com/u/610326/JGredBaron1600x1200.jpg After the turn of the century, in the clear blue skies over Germany... :-) -- Bruce -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dead computer??
My sons MDD 1.25 dualie 2GB RAM running 10.5 has died. ...pressed the start button, NOTHING! Put a new MB battery in it and pressed the button again, NOTHING! ...make it start off the DVD, external HD, another computer, your network... Hold C, or X or Command-Option-Shift-Delete, T for target disk mode, or N if you want to try netbooting. Hold down Option to display icons for all available bootable volumes. Try a super-reset by zapping the PRAM 3 times in a row COOF should bring up a Unix command line prompt (%). ... Type: reset-nvram return set-defaults return reset-all return Try fsck -y: At startup hold down -Command-S keys If they can't get the machine to start, how are they to perform any of the above? :-) Just wanted to provide plenty of options in case he could start it at all. And if he can; like say from another source (CD/DVD/External HD, netboot, etc.) then he might get to a point at which someone in the group could help further depending on what happens/doesn't happen next. I've had what I thought were dead G3s and G4s be revived (at least long enough to give me a clue as to the problem) with different variations of the battery removal and replacement-PMU/CUDA button pushing/RAM removal and replacement/Power button pushing/USB various time letting it sit/Starting from some other source besides the hard drive voodoo more than once. And if you catch that break, you want some things to try when you get there. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
What card is this?
Hello All, I have 2 G4 Sawtooth computers. One is 400Mhz, the other 450Mhz. One of them has a small card, approximately 2-1/2 X 3-1/2 mounted on the motherboard between the Airport card slot and the PCI cars slots. There are 2 screws holding it down, and there is a tiny cable connected to it. The other computer has a slot on the motherboard, the mounting posts and the tiny cable, but no card. Both computers work fine. Does anyone know what this card is for? The card does say, Apple on it. Cheers, Drew -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What card is this?
On 12/22/10 11:21 PM, Andrew Liu Anderson of ma...@lonepineradio.net sent Hello All, I have 2 G4 Sawtooth computers. One is 400Mhz, the other 450Mhz. One of them has a small card, approximately 2-1/2 X 3-1/2 mounted on the motherboard between the Airport card slot and the PCI cars slots. There are 2 screws holding it down, and there is a tiny cable connected to it. The other computer has a slot on the motherboard, the mounting posts and the tiny cable, but no card. Both computers work fine. Does anyone know what this card is for? The card does say, Apple on it. Cheers, Drew Hello Andrew, I believe you are referring to the modem; yes, a little 2 x 2.5 (approx.) Card that plugs into the motherboard, should be held down with the two mentioned screws (and a clip on the alternate edge). The little data cable snakes underneath the motherboard all the way to the modem filter on the opposite side of the board (providing the external port). This modem form factor was used by all G4 units, and, at least in concept, by the early G5s. Regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What card is this?
Yep. Modem indeed. As a person who just recently got cable internet, I'm very familiar with Apple's modems. -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
