Upgrading G4 PowerMac AGP Graphics (Sawtooth) to USB 2.0
I've upped RAM to 1Gb, OS is up to 10.4.11, and I'm trying to support Eyeball 2.0 Webcam/mike pkg by speeding up the USB to 2.0. I added a generic USB 2.0 PCI card with four ext and one int. port, but the machine doesn't seem to acknowledge it...still no action at the webcam, unless I plug it into one of the two older USB 1.1 ports...they see the camera but operation is sporadic and the video shuts off quickly. Am I doing something wrong? Is my USB card maybe only for PC? Do I need a driver for the new USB 2.0? If it works at some point, do I end up with two USB buses? That is, one at 1.1 for the keyboard plugs on the original rear panel, and a 2.0 bus at the four new PCI plugs...? Any help much appreciated... Bob Bridge St. Peter's NS, Canada -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Upgrading G4 PowerMac AGP Graphics (Sawtooth) to USB 2.0
On Jun 30, 2011, at 6:21 AM, rbridge wrote: I've upped RAM to 1Gb, OS is up to 10.4.11, and I'm trying to support Eyeball 2.0 Webcam/mike pkg by speeding up the USB to 2.0. I added a generic USB 2.0 PCI card with four ext and one int. port, but the machine doesn't seem to acknowledge it. You need to have an OHCI-compatible card; however afaik most or all USB2 cards are, since Windpws XP required OHCI as well. What does system profiler say? What OS and version are you using? OS 9 does not support USB2 and I'm not sure all USB2 chipsets will work. OSX should require no drivers, since USB2 support is built-in. In OSX, it should just work, so either the card isn't plugged in all the way, you have a dead PCI slot, or it's a DOA card. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Adding a second HD
I have found says to simply screw the drives on top of one another, but no holes are to be found. Should I drill out holes to..no, no, just kidding. Do I look for rails to set it in next to the HD in there? You need the two-high drive carrier. This was initiated with the Rev. 2 BW and was continued with the G4s up to the QS 2002. It fits in the rear-most carrier slot and a special two drive cable goes from the mobo to the drive carrier. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Startup Sequence
On Jun 28, 12:25 pm, Iamanamma vsand...@neo.rr.com wrote: Beige G3, OS 8.6. Can somebody remind me where the setting is that allows me to make it STOP trying to connect to another computer during the startup sequence? Try deleting Appleshare Prep in the preferences folder. My source: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.comm/browse_thread/thread/ fcf24208db7ac1d0/be52c4e81b4b5715?q=stop+automatically+connect+network +drive++group:comp.sys.mac.*#be52c4e81b4b5715 It was the third result when I searched on stop automatically connect network drive in the groups: comp.sys.mac.* All ancient Mac wisdom was discussed at some point in the UseNet comp.sys.mac.* hierarchy There is also some discussion about unchecking a connect at startup box, but I don't think you can access that box unless the drive is available to mount. Although there might be something in the Chooser you could do. Regarding the later hardware discussion... It sounds like you might want to stock up on Beige G3 logic boards. They have the virtue of working with ATX power supplies. However, while ZIF (CPU) modules will probably be available forever, the VRMs may become hard to find.Another alternative would be to lay in a few of the PowerComputing brand clones. They also use ATX power supplies. Another alternative would be the Umax clones which use a modified ATX drive, but it's pretty easy to build an adapter. Jeff Walther -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Upgrading G4 PowerMac AGP Graphics (Sawtooth) to USB 2.0
Il giorno 30-06-2011 15:21, rbridge ha scritto: I added a generic USB 2.0 PCI card with four ext and one int. port, but the machine doesn't seem to acknowledge it...still no action at the webcam, unless I plug it into one of the two older USB 1.1 ports... So we know the webcam is ok, it just needs a faster port. Did you try anything else on the USB2 card? A memory stick, something simple, so you can check if the card is operational at all. Am I doing something wrong? Is my USB card maybe only for PC? It seems to me you're doing everything right, but maybe your card is not Mac-compatible. USB2 cards can be tricky... I tried one recently (I got it from a PC), a memory stick on it worked fine, but a 2,5 external HD had troubles. OTOH, the Mac-compatible card I have, always worked fine. Do I need a driver for the new USB 2.0? In OSX you don't need drivers (they are built-in), in OS9 there are NO USB2 drivers. If it works at some point, do I end up with two USB buses? Yes, that's how they appear in my G4 DA with the USB2 card: there's an USB bus and an High speed USB bus. (actually there are several USB bus, because I have an USB 1.1 Hub connected; anyway System profiler can tell the difference between speeds). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Adding a second HD
Il giorno 30-06-2011 7:10, Skyler Rudd ha scritto: I just received a 933Mhz G4 (2002). Is it a Quicksilver, right? Info I have found says to simply screw the drives on top of one another, but no holes are to be found. Maybe the G4 is missing the HD tray/frame (as someone else suggested). How the original HD is mounted, then? I have a Digital Audio G4 (similar to Quicksilver), and the HD frame is an U shaped metal frame with holes for 2 HDs. If you're ok with just one drive, with not just swap the two HDs? I want OS 9.2.2 for some of my old favorite games but would I be better off with a separate OS 9 partition or is Classic my best bet? Definitely go for OS9 on a separate partition/drive. Many applications perform better in OS9 (as compared to Classic), and some are not (or not fully) compatible with Classic. This is especially true for games! I hope I don't sound ignorant but I only know enough about computers to get myself in trouble. That's the way we learn, usually. :-D You're welcome to ask for help here, anyway. :-) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Upgrading G4 PowerMac AGP Graphics (Sawtooth) to USB 2.0
in my experience with my sawtooth, a usb2 card with the NEC chip works--but other usb cards from my parts bin with other mfr's chips don't work. the mfr of the chip is silkscreened onto the chip. ken On Jun 30, 9:21 am, rbridge rbri...@ns.sympatico.ca wrote: I've upped RAM to 1Gb, OS is up to 10.4.11, and I'm trying to support Eyeball 2.0 Webcam/mike pkg by speeding up the USB to 2.0. I added a generic USB 2.0 PCI card with four ext and one int. port, but the machine doesn't seem to acknowledge it...still no action at the webcam, unless I plug it into one of the two older USB 1.1 ports...they see the camera but operation is sporadic and the video shuts off quickly. Am I doing something wrong? Is my USB card maybe only for PC? Do I need a driver for the new USB 2.0? If it works at some point, do I end up with two USB buses? That is, one at 1.1 for the keyboard plugs on the original rear panel, and a 2.0 bus at the four new PCI plugs...? Any help much appreciated... Bob Bridge St. Peter's NS, Canada -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Upgrading G4 PowerMac AGP Graphics (Sawtooth) to USB 2.0
in my experience with my sawtooth, a usb2 card with the NEC chip works--but other usb cards from my parts bin with other mfr's chips don't work. the mfr of the chip is silkscreened onto the chip. TI's chip set is the gold standard for USB 2.0, but later VIAs work as well. However, early VIAs may not work. NEC, as Renesas (sp ?), is the gold standard for USB 3.0 chip sets. Indicia on chips is applied by laser etching, not by ink or paint. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Upgrading G4 PowerMac AGP Graphics (Sawtooth) to USB 2.0
Il giorno 1-07-2011 0:26, faithie999 ha scritto: in my experience with my sawtooth, a usb2 card with the NEC chip works Mhh, the USB2 card I tried (coming from a PC) has got a NEC chip, but it was problematic nevertheless. Maybe not all the NEC chips are created equal. ;-) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Upgrading G4 PowerMac AGP Graphics (Sawtooth) to USB 2.0
I added a generic USB 2.0 PCI card with four ext and one int. port, but the machine doesn't seem to acknowledge it Did you press the CUDA button to reset the PMU after you installed the PCI card? If it works at some point, do I end up with two USB buses? Yes. It's not a problem. Sean Carroll slcarr...@me.com Power Mac G4 AGP Sawtooth 1.6 GHz, 2 GB RAM, SATA 750 GB hard drive, Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.8 and Tiger 10.4.11, Gigabit Ethernet M-Audio Revolution 7.1 PCI cards, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB AGP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
