Re: Slightly OT: The weirdest computer cleaning question ever
I'm pretty sure they work simply by using a very fine grit, so they're like sand paper. I've never seen any warnings on the box, so I think whoever told you that may be mistaken. Maybe there are some brands that do use chemicals... I think the Scotch ones are best, they have a blue side for wiping off the grit left by the white sanding side. Cyrus Griffin Hobbittech.com Mac Specialist - Low Cost Mac Services in AZ On Mar 24, 2009, at 2:55 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: We buy cleaning supplies at a place here in town and they told us that there are harsh chemicals in the foam erasers that give them their cleaning power. It really isn't good for you hands. -Jonas On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Cyrus Griffin callmemrp...@gmail.com wrote: It's true! They also are great for taking scuff marks off Macs. (But not with smooth plastics, like the iMacs) I use them all the time, never use gloves not sure why you would need to. It might not work very well on cement, however, which is what I believe he was trying to remove the stain from... You could sure try, however! Cyrus Griffin Hobbittech.com Mac Specialist - Low Cost Mac Services in AZ On Mar 23, 2009, at 1:53 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Try Mr. Clean Magic Foam Erasers. Those things clean everything up. Just make sure you use rubber gloves. -Jonas On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Steve R mailing.lists.2...@gmail.com wrote: At 7:49 AM -0700 3/23/09, Mel posted: Is this product sold in the states (USA)? The link shows only Canadian stores. Mel solution with australian tea tree oil in it -- Home Hardware's Natura spray cleaner -- and discovered that the day old coffee stain wasn't the only thing it wiped from the desk. The set-in ink stain disappeared too. http://www.homehardware.ca/Products/index/show/product/I4580929/name/cleaner_a_p_natura_650ml http://www.homehardware.ca/Products/index/show/product/I4580929/name/cleaner_a_p_natura_650ml I'm sure the reason the cleaner works is because of the main ingredient, australian tee tree oil, so I'd imagine similar products are being sold in the US. (I've also found it works great on shower enclosures and glass, lime scale and removing coffee stains from a rug. It 'almost' removed black marker and probably will next time around or if I can find someone who hasn't torn both rotator cuffs to do the scrubbing.) My sister's friend turned me on to it because the strokes have lessened my strength and I needed a stronger cleaner. Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrade to Leopard leaves mailboxes empty
I didn't have any problems when I upgraded... I still have emails from 3 years ago when I first got my email account. You could just import the mail messages from your backup, I believe it's stored in your UsersLibraryMail (Folders with emails in them) That would be the only thing I could think of. Not sure why it did that. Cyrus Griffin Hobbittech.com Mac Specialist - Low Cost Mac Services in AZ On Mar 25, 2009, at 7:01 PM, Bequette Jeff wrote: On Mar 25, 2009, at 8:13 PM, Tom wrote: I'm working on it. Nobody here seems to have any ideas. Looks like I might have to delete my e-mail account, set it up all over again, and then try to import my old mailboxes from a backup copy of Mail from the Library. So this is the great Leopard, is it? What a mess, so far, with Mail thoroughly screwed up by the upgrade. It was working fine in Tiger. I wonder what else in Leopard is all fouled up, when I go to use it? Before moving on to other bad surprises I'll try to fix Mail. I only upgraded to Leopard because I wanted Time Machine for automatic backups, otherwise I wouldn't have done it. I regret it now. Tom Admittedly, once I got my working preferences restored - re- establishing the mail account from step one- every thing that had been in a folder was returned to its folder. Every thing that was merely sitting in my inbox was gone. It may exist somewhere on the hard drive- but haven't found it yet.. I upgraded because the last Quicktime upgrade killed off my daughters Sims game, and my Civilization, (Aspyr) and the only known fix was 10.5 jbeque...@tconl.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Slightly OT: The weirdest computer cleaning question ever
It's true! They also are great for taking scuff marks off Macs. (But not with smooth plastics, like the iMacs) I use them all the time, never use gloves not sure why you would need to. It might not work very well on cement, however, which is what I believe he was trying to remove the stain from... You could sure try, however! Cyrus Griffin Hobbittech.com Mac Specialist - Low Cost Mac Services in AZ On Mar 23, 2009, at 1:53 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Try Mr. Clean Magic Foam Erasers. Those things clean everything up. Just make sure you use rubber gloves. -Jonas On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Steve R mailing.lists.2...@gmail.com wrote: At 7:49 AM -0700 3/23/09, Mel posted: Is this product sold in the states (USA)? The link shows only Canadian stores. Mel solution with australian tea tree oil in it -- Home Hardware's Natura spray cleaner -- and discovered that the day old coffee stain wasn't the only thing it wiped from the desk. The set-in ink stain disappeared too. http://www.homehardware.ca/Products/index/show/product/I4580929/name/cleaner_a_p_natura_650ml http://www.homehardware.ca/Products/index/show/product/I4580929/name/cleaner_a_p_natura_650ml I'm sure the reason the cleaner works is because of the main ingredient, australian tee tree oil, so I'd imagine similar products are being sold in the US. (I've also found it works great on shower enclosures and glass, lime scale and removing coffee stains from a rug. It 'almost' removed black marker and probably will next time around or if I can find someone who hasn't torn both rotator cuffs to do the scrubbing.) My sister's friend turned me on to it because the strokes have lessened my strength and I needed a stronger cleaner. Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 10.5 on PB G4 1ghz
It should run just fine. We have a 1Ghz upgraded G4 Digital Audio tower with 1.25 Gb of ram, and it runs just fine. (Doesn't go slow or freeze up at all) Be glad you have a G4 to run the Adobe CS. It goes slow on the Intel macs. Also, upgrading RAM always makes your Mac go faster :) Cyrus Griffin Hobbittech.com Mac Specialist - Low Cost Mac Services in AZ On Mar 21, 2009, at 7:41 AM, Debra Platt wrote: Will 10.5 run OK on a PB G4 15, 1ghz with 1.5 gb ram? I am upgrading the hard drive and was thinking about making the switch while I'm spending the time. I use Adobe CS occasionally. Will upgrading the ram from 1.5 gb to 2 gb help that much? Thank you for any responses! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 10.5 on PB G4 1ghz
I run the CS2 Suite (Illustrator, Photoshop mostly) in 10.5. I just tried Illustrator CS, and it works just fine. You should be fine. Cyrus Griffin Hobbittech.com Mac Specialist - Low Cost Mac Services in AZ On Mar 21, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Ted Treen wrote: Debra Platt wrote: Will 10.5 run OK on a PB G4 15, 1ghz with 1.5 gb ram? I am upgrading the hard drive and was thinking about making the switch while I'm spending the time. I use Adobe CS occasionally. Will upgrading the ram from 1.5 gb to 2 gb help that much? Thank you for any responses! Beware though: - Adobe CS (and CS2) is not supported beyond 10.4. That doesn't mean it won't work, but Adobe only support CS3 on 10.5. Ted --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iMac G5 Crashing
Hmm, well it sounds like you don't have the hardware test disc that came with it... You might try to find one on eBay, or the LEM swap. If you really want to know for sure if it's hardware or software, I would say that's your best bet. (The apple hardware test is the best thing I can think of, but perhaps there are other methods of testing your hardware) Good luck, Cyrus Griffin Hobbittech.com Mac Specialist - Low Cost Mac Services in AZ On Mar 19, 2009, at 2:35 AM, Ivan Marsh wrote: I have tried resetting Pram, PMU, ETC pretty much all options I did manage to get a system.log file off of the computer but I don't even have a clue which part of it to post on here. It is all quite long. I am not sure it is a software issue I am beginning to lean towards motherboard but I would like to confirm it. On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Cyrus Griffin callmemrp...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried the regular fixes, such as reset Pram, reset PMU, ETC? It almost sounds like just a software issue, or possibly the hard drive. If you have the original install disks, there should be an Apple Hardware Test, if you have that you might try running it and see what it comes up with. -Cyrus On Mar 17, 2009, at 5:38 AM, Ted Treen wrote: From: Ivan Marsh jalopycomput...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 17 March, 2009 11:38:00 AM Subject: Re: iMac G5 Crashing Funny you should mention leopard as I am running 10.5.6 there. I don't have a tiger disk handy to try but I'm not sure if thats it I had a devil of a time installing from the Leopard disk it kept crashing at the very end so would that be a leopard issue even? I am just not sure if its running leopard enough to blame at that point. On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Steve R mailing.lists.2...@gmail.com wrote: At 2:05 AM -0700 3/17/09, Macuser17 posted: I have an iMac G5 that I bought that has some sort of issue that I can't figure out. I can turn it on and it gives a healthy chime boots and graphics run the whole kit and kabodle then after some time can be 30min might be 6hours it just crashes freezes up image locks and thats it your done. If you wait just a bit you can usually turn it back on or sometimes I have to take the batter and ram out flip it on wait for the tone, turn it off and replace parts and then its good to go for another random period of time. Any ideas whats up? Ram is brand new, hd is brand new, I bought this from someone on ebay who was selling it as broken because it booted to the blinking ? screen thought it would be an easy fix. When it runs its a dream but not sure what's up with it any thoughts would be appreciated. Model iMac 20 G5 2.0Ghz ALS You didn't say what OS you're running. In my case I experienced the problems like yours starting with Leopard, becoming a daily nightmare of upwards of 19 kernel panics per day when I upgraded from 10.5.4. I went back to stability with 10.4.11, and gave the thing away to a Windows user after I couldn't find a local buyer willing to part with $300. Have you checked the logs with Console to see if there's a consistent pattern with freezes/crashes etc. It's surprising how much useful info can be gleaned even by a comparative newbie to Unix - and if not, there are real techies on this list who can read a syslog in the same way I read a newspaper. Ted --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help! I've lost one harddrive and now the main harddrive won't boot!
You might try an Archive and Install, I had this happen on my G4 iBook, but that was due to a bad DVD drive, that didn't install all the system files... Sounds like a similar problem. (System files corrupted) (Archive and install keeps all your files safe.) To get your files off, you could use Target Disk Mode and see if your HD's mount on another computer (using FireWire.) Good luck. -Cyrus On Mar 17, 2009, at 7:46 AM, John Musbach wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Janine Cheung hbbst...@gmail.com wrote: Then I rebooted using the main drive, and that's when it gets stuck (as detailed above) My files are still on the boot drive, but how can I get the harddrive to mount? snip! Any other suggestions? http://www.drivesavers.com/ -- Best Regards, John Musbach --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iMac G5 Crashing
Have you tried the regular fixes, such as reset Pram, reset PMU, ETC? It almost sounds like just a software issue, or possibly the hard drive. If you have the original install disks, there should be an Apple Hardware Test, if you have that you might try running it and see what it comes up with. -Cyrus On Mar 17, 2009, at 5:38 AM, Ted Treen wrote: From: Ivan Marsh jalopycomput...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 17 March, 2009 11:38:00 AM Subject: Re: iMac G5 Crashing Funny you should mention leopard as I am running 10.5.6 there. I don't have a tiger disk handy to try but I'm not sure if thats it I had a devil of a time installing from the Leopard disk it kept crashing at the very end so would that be a leopard issue even? I am just not sure if its running leopard enough to blame at that point. On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Steve R mailing.lists.2...@gmail.com wrote: At 2:05 AM -0700 3/17/09, Macuser17 posted: I have an iMac G5 that I bought that has some sort of issue that I can't figure out. I can turn it on and it gives a healthy chime boots and graphics run the whole kit and kabodle then after some time can be 30min might be 6hours it just crashes freezes up image locks and thats it your done. If you wait just a bit you can usually turn it back on or sometimes I have to take the batter and ram out flip it on wait for the tone, turn it off and replace parts and then its good to go for another random period of time. Any ideas whats up? Ram is brand new, hd is brand new, I bought this from someone on ebay who was selling it as broken because it booted to the blinking ? screen thought it would be an easy fix. When it runs its a dream but not sure what's up with it any thoughts would be appreciated. Model iMac 20 G5 2.0Ghz ALS You didn't say what OS you're running. In my case I experienced the problems like yours starting with Leopard, becoming a daily nightmare of upwards of 19 kernel panics per day when I upgraded from 10.5.4. I went back to stability with 10.4.11, and gave the thing away to a Windows user after I couldn't find a local buyer willing to part with $300. Have you checked the logs with Console to see if there's a consistent pattern with freezes/crashes etc. It's surprising how much useful info can be gleaned even by a comparative newbie to Unix - and if not, there are real techies on this list who can read a syslog in the same way I read a newspaper. Ted --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: eMac Bluetooth blues
I think with older machines, the external bluetooth adapters work with limited success. I also had this problem with a G4 tower, and it also caused kernel panics. I think I had an iogear one, though. There was another bluetooth module I found that worked a lot better; I don't remember what it is offhand, since my current iMac has built-in bluetooth. All I remember was that it was oblong and red; like a capsule. maybe someone else knows what I'm talking about. I think it just depends on the bluetooth module itself. If the eMac you have has the plugin for an internal Apple one, I would try to get one on eBay, if it does support that it should work a lot better. -Cyrus On Mar 17, 2009, at 6:50 AM, Bill Arnold wrote: Recently added bluetooth to my 800mhz eMac via a Belkin usb plugin and wireless apple keyboard and mighty mouse. If I allow the machine to sleep, i lose my bluetooth connections. The only way things seem to work is if I shut down and go through a complete restart. Then all is well. When bluetooth was first installed the preference dialogue did not provide for either the keyboard or mouse to waken the unit from sleep. The option was grayed out. Is there a way to get back the sleep option which was my standard way of operating with the previous wired board and mouse? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: fans on G5 - off to the races!
Apple wanted about $1,700 to replace ONE. We said No, as the whole computer's not even worth that much fully working... We were able to find a single 2ghz CPU on eBay for about $100, but it didn't work, even Apple couldn't get it to work after they ran the thermal calibration, and they said that both CPU's were broken. Just to let you know... Not to be a harbinger of doom :) You might be able to post on LEM swap for new processors if re-thermal pasting them. On ours the thermal paste was, indeed dried up, so that might have happened on yours, and that could fix the problem, those G5's tend to run hot. Oh, I just thought of this, (if possible) I would take it to the Apple store for diagnostic, I think they'll run the thermal calibration at no cost, which might fix your problem, and the diagnostic tool, also. That should confirm if you have any bad hardware. -Cyrus On Mar 16, 2009, at 6:19 AM, Stephen E. Bodnar wrote: Sheesh! $800 for dual 2GHz G5? Maybe I should part this one out and get an Intel Mac ;-) Thanks for the detailed instructions, I'll give it a look-see when the machine is down for a few hours. Stephen Cyrus Griffin wrote: I do; however it does require some special tools. First, you have to take the cover off, that says G5. There's a little grey post that you have to take out on the top side, next to the video card. After thats out (it does take some doing...) pull the grey plastic piece down that's on the front of the processors. This releases 3 or 4 latches on the top cover, which slides over to the left, and up. You can then take the plastic part from the front off. Next, you need a very, very long allen; I believe it's either a 2 or a 5/64. I have a security set, and an extender that I got at a hardware store. There are two in the front, (one on each) four in the middle (these are hard to get to) and two on the back, one on each. You don't have to take these all the way out, in fact I wouldn't recommend trying. They are wedge shaped and hold the processors in with pressure on the sides, as opposed to conventional methods of applying downwards pressure. Anyways, then you just wiggle them out, and there are some phillips screws to take the actual processors off the heat sync. Also there is probably a second, smaller heat sync attached to the back side, with some metal or plastic clips. It should be obvious how to take it off, as it's attached to the processor itself. I would strongly suggest being grounded while you do this; new processors are VERY, VERY hard to find for dual 2GHz G5's, and may cost you upwards of $800. Hope that helps. -Cyrus On Mar 15, 2009, at 4:17 PM, Stephen E. Bodnar wrote: I have a dual 2.0 GHz G5. On occasion, all the fans start running full speed. I know that this is a common problem with this particular model, but I've searched all the forums for a fix to no avail. My guess is that the CPU heat sinks are not seated right, maybe the goo is dried out, the thermal grease thread brought the possibility back to mind. At work, I had a server that was doing the same dance, and reseating the heatsinks on the CPU's fixed it. Does anyone know how the get into the processors on a dual 2.0 GHz G5? For some reason, Apple has apparently removed all the Tech Docs for this particular model from their website. Thanks, Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Trouble with Bondi again.
Hmm. I did notice that the problem started after I upgraded from 10.2.4 to 10.2.8. I know the beige G3's had this problem also, on mine that fix has worked very well (No black screens in about a year or so) I'm going to try that right now. -Cyrus PS. I also checked MacTracker, and it says the Rev. A G3 iMacs only accept 256Mb of ram... I was about to buy two 256 ones from someone on the LEM swap, but should I just get two 128's? I am pretty sure I have a Rev. A iMac, since on the motherboard it doesn't say the revision. On Mar 14, 2009, at 5:35 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Mar 14, 2009, at 5:21 PM, Cyrus wrote: Well, I posted about my G3 Bondi iMac before, but now I've encountered a different problem. Here are the specs: 233MHz OSX 10.2.8 92mb RAM. Here's the problem: It runs fine for a while, (5-15mins) then, the display goes black, the power light goes yellow (like it does when it sleeps) and no amount of coaxing will wake it up, I'm pretty sure it just crashes. I have to pull the power cord out. Has anyone had this happen before? What's the most likely cause? This is a known issue: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25564 It's been written about extensively on the Apple DiscussionOlder HardwareBeige G3 section. There really aren't any good solutions for the Bondi because it lacks any way to add a Radeon video card, which is the normal solution for this issue that affects the built-in Rage video only. You have too little RAM in the Bondi for using OS X effectively. One possible solution is to stop upgrading at 10.2.6 because it was a video system overhaul that effects 10.2.8 forward thru 10.4.11. Also, if you had more RAM this would probably make the black screen lockup occur MUCH less often because the causal factor has something to do with the way the video interacts with the HD read/write activity. The harder the HD is working, the more likely to experience the black screen lockup. You need a lot of HD freespace for OS X, and at least 2GB freespace for Jaguar. If you have less freespace, the HD will work harder and cause this issue more often. There is NO solution to the lockup other than a restart, normally a Force Restart using the Ctl-Cmd-Pwr keys. With max RAM, and perhaps a HD with a larger buffer or higher speed, you'd probably minimize the HD read/write cycles so the black screen would occur less often. On a Beige G3 with over 512MB RAM and 10.4.11 the black screen lockup would occur about once-per- week with 4-8 hours usage per day. Also, if your Bondi only has the 2MB VRAM, get the option 4MB VRAM chip to up the VRAM to the max. 6MB. Hope this helps a little, but there really isn't any totally good solution. You can only minimize the occurrence. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Trouble with Bondi again.
Ok, then I think I'll go for it. The Mactracker info is somewhat confusing. Thanks! PS. The black screen fix worked great, I don't know why I didn't connect that! I guess since it looks so much different then the Biege G3s... but hardware-wise it's very similar. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction! -Cyrus On Mar 15, 2009, at 12:18 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Mar 15, 2009, at 1:04 AM, Cyrus Griffin wrote: Hmm. I did notice that the problem started after I upgraded from 10.2.4 to 10.2.8. I know the beige G3's had this problem also, on mine that fix has worked very well (No black screens in about a year or so) I'm going to try that right now. Good. PS. I also checked MacTracker, and it says the Rev. A G3 iMacs only accept 256Mb of ram... I was about to buy two 256 ones from someone on the LEM swap, but should I just get two 128's? I am pretty sure I have a Rev. A iMac, since on the motherboard it doesn't say the revision. This isn't correct, they can accept 512MB also, in PC66, PC100 or PC133 SoDimm. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G3 stalls on boot-up
Your iMac should run Panther just fine (if it has the firmware update) If not, make sure it has a VGA port on the back. (I have more info if you're confused about that, we installed 10.4 onto a 400Mhz Blueberry iMac, and killed the video; since it didn't have an external VGA port, we had to get a new motherboard) I would just try reinstalling 10.3 (Panther). What OS do you currently have on it? It might not be able to run OS 8.6 if it's a Graphite/Snow/Sage/Ruby model. You can initialize and format a HD from the OSX installer, or run Disk Utility. Same with OS 8.6, if I'm not mistaken. You also might try reseting the Pram, by holding Option + Apple + R + P while you start it up, and wait for about 4 or 5 chimes, then let go. Hope that helps, -Cyrus On Mar 14, 2009, at 7:27 PM, old newbie wrote: My 400Mhz G3 won't complete its boot. It seems to be going through the process, albeit slowly, but then stops, with a message at the top of the screen, which still has only the Apple logo, which says something like, half duplex disabled, and the system stops. I acquired a couple of G3 boxes, neither of which has a hard drive, but with assurances that the mainboards were functional. After installing one of these in my original box, the bootup proceeded exactly the same, including the message when it stopped. My thought now is that the hard drive is corrupted or has gone south completely. Is there a way to determine which has occurred, or would it be better to just replace the drive and start over? If that is the case, how do I go about that? I have OS 8.6 and Panther available, but do I need more, like something to format or otherwise enable the hard disk? As you can tell, I am not at all familiar with the Mac system requirements. Any advice is welcome. I really don't want to give up on this, as it has become a challenge of wits, in which I am obviously at a severe disadvantage, but I'd like to pull a Forrest on this and make it go somehow. Barrie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Trouble with Bondi again.
Well, I posted about my G3 Bondi iMac before, but now I've encountered a different problem. Here are the specs: 233MHz OSX 10.2.8 92mb RAM. Here's the problem: It runs fine for a while, (5-15mins) then, the display goes black, the power light goes yellow (like it does when it sleeps) and no amount of coaxing will wake it up, I'm pretty sure it just crashes. I have to pull the power cord out. Has anyone had this happen before? What's the most likely cause? I did try it with 128mb RAM, with one 64 stick from a G3 Lombard PowerBook, and that's when the problem started. (I assumed it was just incompatable ram...) I reset the Kuda switch, zapped the Pram... What is the most likely cause? Thanks, -Cyrus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Broken ethernet port on Bondi G3 iMac
Hi everyone, I recently recieved an original Bondi Blue G3 iMac. The only problem is the ethernet port doesn't work for internet, I can connect to my intel iMac just fine, see my hard drive, but it won't connect to the internet. Does anyone know anything about this happening? I would like to get it on-line; if nothing else I can get a new motherboard, but I thought I'd come here first. Here are the specs: 233Mhz G3 Not much ram (haven't checked) Running 10.1 (I upgraded it from 9.2.1 to see if that would help, it didn't.) (which is a fresh install of OSX) 4Gb HD Any thoughts or ideas? What is the Kuda reset switch for? What is the Mezanine slot for? Thanks, -Cyrus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: True of False - Pismo CPU board in Lombard?
I have personally worked extensively with both Lombards and Pismos; and it is indeed impossible to swap motherboards. The keyboard and trackpad plugins are completely different, the Pismo has a much larger heatsync, and an AirPort card slot, and two FireWire ports instead of a SCSI port. To change motherboards, you'd have to change cases, keyboards, the CPU. the only part that's compatible between the two is the display. (And the modem) And then... you'd just have a Pismo. He is probably just confused, or got something mixed up. I think there may be, however, a 500Mhz upgrade CPU for the lombards, but I'm not sure. I do know that the processors are incompatible, also. -Cyrus On Mar 4, 11:25 am, Bruce - in Orlando bhossfi...@bellsouth.net wrote: I see on ebay right now there is a 500 mhz CPU board being advertised as being for a Lombard:http://cgi.ebay.com/Processor-Board-Apple-PowerBook-G3-Lombard-500Mhz... As I understand it the fastest CPU board for a Lombard was actually 400 mhz, so I suspect this board would actually be from a Pismo? Seller claims he really used it in his Lombard. Yet elsewhere on ebay there are Pismo CPU boards for sale where the description specifically says that a Pismo CPU board will not work in a Lombard:http://cgi.ebay.com/Powerbook-G3-Pismo-400mhz-Processor-Firewire-400-... So, true or false - will a 500 mhz Pismo CPU board work in a Lombard? Or maybe this 500 mhz board came from some powerbook other than Pismo? Bruce - in Orlando --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Yikes! Question
No one ever made a PCI card that offered the old Mac DB15 video standard. Not true, I happen to have one that I use in my 7500. I can provide a picture if you don't belive me. I have also used it in a G4 tower to diagnose a problem. Plus, it sounds like he already has a monitor connected to his current monitor port, and would like to add the old one as a second display. -Cyrus On Mar 4, 11:59 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Mar 4, 2009, at 11:37 AM, Evan Wilson wrote: I need a VGA DB-15 PCI video card to install in slot #2 of my Yikes! No, what you need is a VGA-DB15 adapter to run a Mac Monitor off of a VGA port. Be exact when looking for this, most searches will get you the other way, to connect a VGA monitor to a DB15 output. http://www.kpsurplus.com/products/view/8215 this is what you want. This is the Apple one. Here's a cheaper one http://www.pccables.com/70023.htm No one ever made a PCI card that offered the old Mac DB15 video standard. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: networking two macs
I remember having this problem in the past; where certain computers can connect one way, and others can't see each other. 10.4 wasn't quite as good with networking as 10.5 is; I think your problem on your tower computer is that in 10.5 you have to click on the Connect As... button and put in the name and password for your PowerBook, and check the Remember box. Otherwise, you are only seeing what a user connected as a guest would see. As for the other problem, I can't quite say what we did to solve the problem; we had a Linksys router (that was notoriously hostile towards Macs) but it broke, and we got a Time Capsule, and haven't had any problems since. So if you do have a Linksys or other router, I would try playing with the settings a little bit. You also might try changing the encryption for your network, for example from WEP to WPA, if you can. Hope that helps, -Cyrus On Mar 3, 3:26 pm, Demetrius babag...@gmail.com wrote: i know this should be easy but it's not working for me. i have a G4 MDD with 10.5.6 and a Powerbook (PB) G3 (with G4 processor upgrade) running 10.4.11. I would like to connect them on my wireless network, so that I can access all folder/files, but keep others out. AppleTalk and File Sharing is turned on both. The MDD can see the PB on the network (as well as my roommates PC cpu, all folders/files) but can only see the Public folder--Drop Box folder, but cannot open that folder Not sufficient privleges - but I can drop things in it, and get them on the PB. The PB does not automatically see the MDD, but if I Connect to Server and enter IP of the MDD it will see it. But I cannot connect as Registered User Invalid Password (tried System pw, no go) and if I connect as Guest I can see the volume I made available on the MDD but Users folders are blocked (little red - symbol) - System, Application folders are accessible, i can transfer files, but I need User folders. most important to me is that MDD can pull files from PB. any help out there? thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iMac G3 DV SE (fall 2001) 1GHz?
I agree; MacTracker is great for looking up Mac models, and I'm 99% sure there were NO 1GHz G3 iMacs. The first 1GHz iMacs were the G4 dome ones in 2003. Wikipedia can be edited by anyone; so I would trust sites like Apple-History or MacTracker that are only edited and compiled by people who know what they're talking about. Here's a link to download Mactracker: http://mactracker.dreamhosters.com/ and Mike provided the link to Apple-History, so you're all set. -Cyrus. Also, you can check with Apple, they do have old pages that detail older computers, and who'd know Apple's better then Apple? On Mar 1, 8:55 am, Dark_Mac darkwall...@fightfor.org wrote: Hi there, I suggest you look onhttp://www.apple-history.com/or use Mactracker to confirm this. They are both excellent sources for this type of information. Actually Mactracker references apple-history a lot. Regards, Mike On Feb 28, 2009, at 11:51 PM, Mullin9 wrote: Someone told me that iMac G3 DV SE (fall 2001) iMac (slot-loading) iMac G3 (slot loading) The iMac (slot loading). Developer Apple Inc. Type Desktop Release date 5 October 1999 CPU PowerPC G3, 350–700 MHz 1.0 GHz (SE edition only) October 5, 1999 — iMac/iMac DV/iMac DV SE. First revision with FireWire support, except for the 350 MHz (Blueberry) model. 350 or 400 MHz processor, slot-loading optical drive, same colors as rev C/D iMac, plus Special Edition in graphite color. Used ATI Rage 128 VR Graphics with 8 MB of VRAM. Included internal slot for 802.11b AirPort card (AirPort card adapter required). July 19, 2000 — iMac/iMac DV/iMac DV+/iMac DV SE. DV+ and DV SE models upgrade slot-loading CD-ROM to slot-loading DVD-ROM drive. 350, 400, 450 or 500 MHz processor, colors graphite (grey), ruby (red), snow (white), indigo (dark blue) and sage (green). Graphics updated to Rage 128 Pro, but still with 8 MB SGRAM. 350 MHz model (Indigo) lacked AirPort card slot and still lacked FireWire support. February 22, 2001 — (patterns). 400, 500 (PPC750CXe), or 600 (PPC750CXe) MHz processor. Available in Indigo, Graphite, and Blue Dalmatian or Flower Power patterns. DVD-ROM drive discontinued in favor of slot-loading CD-RW drive (low-end Indigo model has CD-ROM). 750CXe models features a new Pangea motherboard with a 16 MB ATI Rage 128 Ultra graphics chip. July 18, 2001 — (summer 2001). 500, 600, or 700 MHz (PPC750CXe) processor. Available in indigo, graphite, and snow. 700 MHz model discontinued in January 2002 after G4 iMacs were introduced. 500 and 600 MHz models discontinued March 2003. It was not released to the public that iMac DV SE G3 was 1.0 GHz until 2002.[citation needed] Link is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMac_G3 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iMac G3 DV SE (fall 2001) 1GHz?
In addition, here is the Apple specs for the G3 DV SE iMac: http://support.apple.com/kb/SP64 No 1GHz there... A google search also turned up nothing. My guess is someone edited wikipedia that was very confused. Sorry if that's not what you wanted to hear :) The iMac DV SE was 500Mhz max, so I think that that wikipedia article is quite wrong... Try looking it up on Apple, here is a page with all the early G3 iMacs: http://support.apple.com/specs/#imac -Cyrus On Mar 1, 10:19 am, Cyrus callmemrp...@gmail.com wrote: I agree; MacTracker is great for looking up Mac models, and I'm 99% sure there were NO 1GHz G3 iMacs. The first 1GHz iMacs were the G4 dome ones in 2003. Wikipedia can be edited by anyone; so I would trust sites like Apple-History or MacTracker that are only edited and compiled by people who know what they're talking about. Here's a link to download Mactracker:http://mactracker.dreamhosters.com/ and Mike provided the link to Apple-History, so you're all set. -Cyrus. Also, you can check with Apple, they do have old pages that detail older computers, and who'd know Apple's better then Apple? On Mar 1, 8:55 am, Dark_Mac darkwall...@fightfor.org wrote: Hi there, I suggest you look onhttp://www.apple-history.com/oruse Mactracker to confirm this. They are both excellent sources for this type of information. Actually Mactracker references apple-history a lot. Regards, Mike On Feb 28, 2009, at 11:51 PM, Mullin9 wrote: Someone told me that iMac G3 DV SE (fall 2001) iMac (slot-loading) iMac G3 (slot loading) The iMac (slot loading). Developer Apple Inc. Type Desktop Release date 5 October 1999 CPU PowerPC G3, 350–700 MHz 1.0 GHz (SE edition only) October 5, 1999 — iMac/iMac DV/iMac DV SE. First revision with FireWire support, except for the 350 MHz (Blueberry) model. 350 or 400 MHz processor, slot-loading optical drive, same colors as rev C/D iMac, plus Special Edition in graphite color. Used ATI Rage 128 VR Graphics with 8 MB of VRAM. Included internal slot for 802.11b AirPort card (AirPort card adapter required). July 19, 2000 — iMac/iMac DV/iMac DV+/iMac DV SE. DV+ and DV SE models upgrade slot-loading CD-ROM to slot-loading DVD-ROM drive. 350, 400, 450 or 500 MHz processor, colors graphite (grey), ruby (red), snow (white), indigo (dark blue) and sage (green). Graphics updated to Rage 128 Pro, but still with 8 MB SGRAM. 350 MHz model (Indigo) lacked AirPort card slot and still lacked FireWire support. February 22, 2001 — (patterns). 400, 500 (PPC750CXe), or 600 (PPC750CXe) MHz processor. Available in Indigo, Graphite, and Blue Dalmatian or Flower Power patterns. DVD-ROM drive discontinued in favor of slot-loading CD-RW drive (low-end Indigo model has CD-ROM). 750CXe models features a new Pangea motherboard with a 16 MB ATI Rage 128 Ultra graphics chip. July 18, 2001 — (summer 2001). 500, 600, or 700 MHz (PPC750CXe) processor. Available in indigo, graphite, and snow. 700 MHz model discontinued in January 2002 after G4 iMacs were introduced. 500 and 600 MHz models discontinued March 2003. It was not released to the public that iMac DV SE G3 was 1.0 GHz until 2002.[citation needed] Link is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMac_G3 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iMac G3 DV SE (fall 2001) 1GHz?
Oops one more post-- the iMac page is the first page, scroll to the bottom and click Previous page... sorry about that. -Cyrus On Mar 1, 10:30 am, Cyrus callmemrp...@gmail.com wrote: In addition, here is the Apple specs for the G3 DV SE iMac: http://support.apple.com/kb/SP64 No 1GHz there... A google search also turned up nothing. My guess is someone edited wikipedia that was very confused. Sorry if that's not what you wanted to hear :) The iMac DV SE was 500Mhz max, so I think that that wikipedia article is quite wrong... Try looking it up on Apple, here is a page with all the early G3 iMacs:http://support.apple.com/specs/#imac -Cyrus On Mar 1, 10:19 am, Cyrus callmemrp...@gmail.com wrote: I agree; MacTracker is great for looking up Mac models, and I'm 99% sure there were NO 1GHz G3 iMacs. The first 1GHz iMacs were the G4 dome ones in 2003. Wikipedia can be edited by anyone; so I would trust sites like Apple-History or MacTracker that are only edited and compiled by people who know what they're talking about. Here's a link to download Mactracker:http://mactracker.dreamhosters.com/ and Mike provided the link to Apple-History, so you're all set. -Cyrus. Also, you can check with Apple, they do have old pages that detail older computers, and who'd know Apple's better then Apple? On Mar 1, 8:55 am, Dark_Mac darkwall...@fightfor.org wrote: Hi there, I suggest you look onhttp://www.apple-history.com/oruseMactracker to confirm this. They are both excellent sources for this type of information. Actually Mactracker references apple-history a lot. Regards, Mike On Feb 28, 2009, at 11:51 PM, Mullin9 wrote: Someone told me that iMac G3 DV SE (fall 2001) iMac (slot-loading) iMac G3 (slot loading) The iMac (slot loading). Developer Apple Inc. Type Desktop Release date 5 October 1999 CPU PowerPC G3, 350–700 MHz 1.0 GHz (SE edition only) October 5, 1999 — iMac/iMac DV/iMac DV SE. First revision with FireWire support, except for the 350 MHz (Blueberry) model. 350 or 400 MHz processor, slot-loading optical drive, same colors as rev C/D iMac, plus Special Edition in graphite color. Used ATI Rage 128 VR Graphics with 8 MB of VRAM. Included internal slot for 802.11b AirPort card (AirPort card adapter required). July 19, 2000 — iMac/iMac DV/iMac DV+/iMac DV SE. DV+ and DV SE models upgrade slot-loading CD-ROM to slot-loading DVD-ROM drive. 350, 400, 450 or 500 MHz processor, colors graphite (grey), ruby (red), snow (white), indigo (dark blue) and sage (green). Graphics updated to Rage 128 Pro, but still with 8 MB SGRAM. 350 MHz model (Indigo) lacked AirPort card slot and still lacked FireWire support. February 22, 2001 — (patterns). 400, 500 (PPC750CXe), or 600 (PPC750CXe) MHz processor. Available in Indigo, Graphite, and Blue Dalmatian or Flower Power patterns. DVD-ROM drive discontinued in favor of slot-loading CD-RW drive (low-end Indigo model has CD-ROM). 750CXe models features a new Pangea motherboard with a 16 MB ATI Rage 128 Ultra graphics chip. July 18, 2001 — (summer 2001). 500, 600, or 700 MHz (PPC750CXe) processor. Available in indigo, graphite, and snow. 700 MHz model discontinued in January 2002 after G4 iMacs were introduced. 500 and 600 MHz models discontinued March 2003. It was not released to the public that iMac DV SE G3 was 1.0 GHz until 2002.[citation needed] Link is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMac_G3 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: questions....questions
Hmm, that's strange, the hard drive should work in either, if it's an IDE HD. You could just install OSX on the G4, then put the HD from the G4 in the beige, (hopefully this would work?) then move you home folder over, and replace it on the G4 hd. This would effectively do what you'd want, if you put your username and short name the same on both installations. As for being faster... the G4 will have a much faster bus speed, and probably faster RAM. But with the upgrade, they'd probably be equivalent. The G4 probably has more compatibility and expandability also, however, and can be upgraded to 1GHz (or more). Just some things to consider, the choice is yours :) -Cyrus On Mar 1, 10:24 am, Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net wrote: Here is my situation: I have been using a Beige G3 with a Zif Upgrade. The Beige runs at 500mhz. I have added firewire and USB cards and they work fine. In fact, the entire computer is performing well. I was recently given a 450 mhz G4 tower which I expect to be faster than the Beige and I want to start using it ASAP. My ZIF upgrade is compatible with the new Mac, so I can use it. The problem(s) I want to transfer all of my settings, software authorizations, bookmarks, and email addresses to the newer Mac. But The hard drive from the Beige is incompatible with the new G4 so I can't simply add the Beige's hard drive to the G4. Nor will it mount on the G4 regardless of jumper settings. Apple's Migration Assistant did not work because the Beige does not have native firewire. I did a Carbon Copy Clone of the Beige onto my external firewire drive but I can't figure out how to transfer the clone to the newer Mac. I hope that some of you have experience with this scenario and can offer some ideas towards a solution. Also, considering the time and trouble, do you think I will see any speed increases over the Beige? Larry Eden --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: web design software what to get?
I would suggest finding an old copy of GoLive CS or CS2 on eBay, Craigslist, or some other avenue. You can probably purchase GoLive CS for fairly cheap, since it is quite old by now. You could find an older version of DreamWeaver, also, but being a GoLive user myself, DreamWeaver is very different, but if you don't mind the steep learning curve is is more powerful. (Dreamweaver used to be owned by Macromedia, just FYI, in case you want to search for older versions.) Hope that helps! -Cyrus As far as free webpage authoring software, I think after GoLive you'll probably find it underpowered. I know that older versions of Netscape had Netscape Composer, but I think Netscape has been discontinued. Maybe other people might have better suggestions as to free web programs? On Mar 1, 12:07 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: Linda wrote: When I upgraded to Leopard I lost my OS 9 which had my ancient version of Golive on it. As this was the only application I had used to create webpages I am at a loss as to what to do. So can anyone offer an inexpensive, easy to use basic web design application? I only do stuff for family but would like to be able to keep things updated. How ancient? I have Golive 6.0 and it is a Carbon application so it runs under 9 or X. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: what do I have?
Also, if it's running any version of OS 9, any custom picture can be placed in the startup window, so I would trust the system profiler. If it's grey and a dark blue-grey color, then it's probably a G4, with a misleading startup graphic, and if it's bright blue with milky white plastic, then it's probably what Peter said, I had one of those that was upgraded to a 450Mhz G4. If it's running OS X, however... it shouldn't be saying anything when it starts up but the Progress bar. -Cyrus On Feb 26, 4:18 am, Peter McCourt peter.mcco...@uit.no wrote: On 26 Feb 2009, at 12:09, Lawrence David Eden wrote: I teach at several elementary schools. At one of my schools I have what appears to be a G4, (looks like a BW G3 enclosure), but when I start the computer, it says: G3 with PCI graphics in the start-up window. If I do an about this Mac I am told that it is a 450mhz G4. What gives? My guess is that you have a BW with a ZIF G4 upgrade. HTH - peter --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dead PowerMac G4 Digital Audio Model
Another thing to check is the voltage specifier on the powersupply, (little red switch next to where the cord goes in) it might have gotten set to 230 instead of 115. And then just try the usual, different outlet/power cord. If none of that, I would guess it's the power supply. -Cyrus On Feb 26, 1:53 pm, BillBoggs billbo...@mac.com wrote: Worked flawlessly for many years. Now, without any warning, it just stopped. Won't power up at all, no sign of life whatsoever. Any suggestions where to start? Thanks! Bill --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Parallels or VMware Fusion
I know someone who used Fusion, and likes it a lot. If you want to use one or the other, I would say whichever one is less expensive, since they're probably equivalent, and you can find people who love one, and hate the other, or vice versa. If you could find a couple people you know that have one or the other, you could see how they work and compare them. Hmm, would VirtualBox work with XP without SP2? I ran into this problem with Boot Camp, since you have to have XP with SP2 and I have an extra copy of XP pro (that's not SP2) -Cyrus On Feb 25, 11:03 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Feb 25, 2009, at 10:57 AM, lrbarrios wrote: If you're looking for a VM though, don't overlook the open-source VirtualBox. http://www.virtualbox.org/ not as bellswhistles-y as the others, but Free is hard to beat, and it's a decent VM implementation. -- Bruce Johnson I'm glad to hear you say that Bruce. I've been threatening to try out VirtualBox. I made it as far as the website. I agree, too, that Free is hard to beat. If it works half as good as Parallels or Fusion and you're not doing anything mission critical, then it's worth a look. I've installed it for testing on my iMac, and have used it a few times. I have used the Linux version to solve some issues I had on one of our servers, I was quite happy with it. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Selecting Startup Disk in Beige G3
Not quite true, there are certain keys you can press to tell the computer where to start from. C = Start from CD. Option = Start from available OS9 installation. X = Start from available OSX installation. I know the Option keystroke works, it forces it to boot into OS9 no matter which device you have selected in the OS's Startup Disk. I'm not so sure about the OSX since I've never booted off a supported OSX on my beige tower. -Cyrus On Feb 22, 8:06 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Feb 22, 2009, at 7:40 PM, Mullin9 wrote: In the new-world mac, I press option at startup to select the startup disk, But on the Old-World Beige Mac, what key do I push to select the startup disk, If you're using an unsupported version of OS X (10.3 or 10.4) requiring XPostFacto you must use XPF to select the startup disk. If you're using a supported version of OS X (10.2 or earlier) or OS 9 you use Apple Startup Disk to select the startup disk. There isn't any firmware option (meaning keystroke) for selecting the startup disk prior to boot, although you can boot into Open Firmware command line and use open firmware commands to select the startup device. This isn't easy because you'll need to know the exact arcane open firmware device name to be able to specify it. It can be done, but it's not for the faint of heart, and generally you could boot a CD holding the C key and then use Apple Startup Disk from there unless you're using an unsupported OS X which will not work properly if you use Apple Startup Disk since it conflicts with XPF. If you reset the PRAM/NVRAM the Beige defaults to the master drive of the primary ATA bus. These other old-world boot key commands work, but aren't too useful unless you use SCSI drives in the Beige: Cmd-Opt-Shift-Delete: Bypass startup drive and boot from external SCSI Cmd-Opt-Shift-Delete-#: Boot from a specific SCSI ID #.(#=SCSI ID number) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iBook Tape recorder
Whoops, guess I should have included a link to Audiocorder, too. http://www.blackcatsystems.com/software/audiocorder.html -Cyrus On Feb 23, 10:26 am, Dan A. Currie danc...@frontiernet.net wrote: Hello, I need to use my G4 iBook as a Tape recorder to record a meeting. Freeware suggestion!! Dan Currie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 10.5.6 Desktop Icons can't be moved
Sometimes your user preferences can get corrupted over time, or by having the application they are for crash. I would try moving the desktop and finder preferences to a new folder, forcing the OS to create a new one. These are in the Users[your username] LibraryPreferencescom.apple.desktop.plist and com.apple.finder.plist. If you move them to another folder on your hard drive, then log out and back in (or just restart) the OS will create new preference files in the preferences folder. None of your settings for the desktop or finder will remain the same, but if it works it's not that hard to put back your settings. If it makes it worse, or doesn't work, then you can just move the old preference files back into the folder, replacing the new ones. You could also try verifying disk permissions in Disk Utility, (ApplicationsUtilitiesDisk Utility) and repairing them if it comes up with any problems, this does fix a lot of problems! Hope I explained all that well :-) -Cyrus On Feb 21, 9:57 pm, hillhippy leoh...@gmail.com wrote: This weekend I decided that OS10.5 was old enough to try installing it on my PM 2.7 G5. Expecting that things could go wrong I kept the drive with OS10.4.11, and formatted a drive for 10.5.install Ran the installer and it consistantly failed if I tried to use the feature in the configuration assistant that copies your settings and files from a different drive. Feeling kinda smart I reformated the drive and just installed the OS, then used the migration assistant in the utilities folder to move my files and accounts, then ran software update to get everything current. This all seemed to work, but now I can't move any of the icons on the desktop, they are frozen in place. I have used get info to check the icons and they are not locked, I have rights to the icons, I Zaped PRAM, I can left click and put the icon in the trash. I thought this might be related to the migration assistant, but the icons are are frozen in both a new account created during the install and accounts that I migrated. Tried any Apple mouse in place of my Kensington with no change I Googled this issue and what I found was problems where icons and files wrer frozen and could not be opened or deleted, both of which I can do. I'm stumped, but glad I can still startup in 10.4.11. As always any help would be appreciated. Leo Hoyt --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
