Re: Sad day...
On Oct 6, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Chance Reecher wrote: On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 2:14 PM, gifutiger gifuti...@gmail.com wrote: The strangest thing though is that I haven't seen or read any comments fro The Woz (Steve Wozniak) Woz was interviewed live on the Today show this morning. I think the first 10 or so minutes were all Jobs-related. Here's a video of his tribute. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15198013 Carpe Aptenodytes! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Unsubscribe
On Aug 25, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Doug McNutt wrote: At 20:11 -0700 8/24/09, Fabian Fang wrote: On Aug 24, 2009, at 7:45 PM, Phil Spencer wrote: Oops I meant to say unsubscribing doesn't work the address doesn't exist I've been trying to escape this list since it magically reappeared for days Those who have participated in this thread and wished to leave this list have all been unsubscribed. I personally do not know why g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com does not work. Fabian Fang G3-5 List Nanny It's possible that folks don't understand that they MUST send the message from the same email address that is used to receive the list postings. Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network is likely to fail. The comment in the trailer might be improved from: To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com to: To unsubscribe from this group, send an empty email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com from the address at which you receive postings. You will need to reply to a confirmation message that your filters might direct to your spam bucket. -- -- So are we going to celebrate the start of a new decade at the end of this year? Or do the tens start at in January 2011? -- That doesn't work either. I had 3 lists that I was getting dup emails from and tried to unsubscribe that way and it never did work. Only way I found that works correctly is to log into the group web forum and unsubscribe there. Worked just fine that way. Just a message from Doug... http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + Home for the Hackintosh community --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Quicksilver hardware problems
gsacks wrote: On Aug 16, 9:33 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 9:35 PM -0700 8/15/2009, gsacks wrote: 733 mhz Quicksilver bad RAM and a bad hard drive Both were bad?! Yes, one stick of memory was bad (as per memtest) and the hard drive had errors that I couldn't correct (I don't have any 3rd party software for this, and I had spare drives anyway). Couldn't bad memory cause disk problems? Absolutely. I had once had a DA with a bad RAM stick and it wreaked havoc on 2 different HD's. so I replaced them and it worked for a couple of months. After that it wouldn't start up at all -- the light on the switch comes on and the fans spin for a few seconds, then nothing. I checked the voltages on the power supply and they seem fine. From various sources on the web, I surmised that either the logic board or the processor was dead. Fortunately, I have a working QS 2002 with an 800 mhz processor. I swapped processors, but then neither computer worked. The original non-working one behaved the same as before. The QS 2002 with the swapped processor started with no chime and no video. There's nothing wrong with the 800 mhz processor -- I put it back in the QS 2002 and it works fine. I'm thinking that both the logic board and the processor are bad. How likely is this? Any other suggestions for diagnosing the problem(s)? Have you replaced the PRAM battery? I didn't replace it, but it checks out OK on a voltmeter. No load voltage readings can be deceiving. Might try a new one or known good one if you have it available. While working on these machines, were you properly grounded? No, but it's so humid I'm not worried about static. When you swapped the processors, did you hit the CUDA button ONCE (reset the power manager Yes (though I understand it's called the PMU button in G4's). If you are talking about the button on the front next to the reset button it's not the same thing. The CUDA button is on the motherboard itself. - Dan. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: sata 2.5 plugged into a 3.5 sata enclosure?
On Jun 22, 2009, at 1:03 PM, MacGuy wrote: ok, got this 2.5 sata drive plugged into this 3.5 enclosure... question: can the power supplied to the 3.5 enclosure be too much for this 2.5 drive? (what I'm doing is testing the enclosure to see if it's good, and the only drive I have to use is a 2.5 sata drive from a mac mini). Jeff Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com PowerMac G4 No, I have a Vantec NexStar USB/SATA HD dock and the 2.5 and 3.5 drives plug into the same power and data connectors. HTH Just a message from Doug... http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh community. To subscribe to the HQ-A group, send email to hq-a +subscr...@googlegroups.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: sata 2.5 plugged into a 3.5 sata enclosure?
On Jun 22, 2009, at 7:55 PM, John Martz wrote: As for the one I'm having troubles with: http://www.icydock.com/ product/mb664us-1s.html It has esata.. and funny that you'd ask, yes it worked great via esata connection. And lastly, no, it's not under warranty. Jeff OK, I'm stumped and am now waiting for someone else to post the obvious explanation which is escaping me. If the 2.5 drive works with USB, then I would think there is no problem with USB. In other words, I'd expect the SATA-USB logic to either work or not work. But if the 3.5 drive works with eSATA, then I would assume there is no problem with the power supply provided by the enclosure to the drive. So why wouldn't the 3.5 drive *also* work with USB? Is there a big difference between the capacities of the two drives? (Maybe there USB has a capacity limit?) Was the 3.5 drive partitioned formatted? Did you try more than one USB connector or connecting to another computer? Sorry, I realize that these questions aren't that helpful, but I've got nothing else. :-( -irrational john Actually, USB-SATA (or IDE for that matter) connections do tend to be a bit more complicated than the direct connect eSATA. Keep in mind you are going through a mess of interfaces with any one of them being able to mess up the entire connection at any time. It can be a bit flaky at times also, especially if you disconnect one drive and insert another. The eSATA connection is almost a direct connection to the motherboard with just a cable switch.HTH Just a message from Doug... http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh community. To subscribe to the HQ-A group, send email to hq-a +subscr...@googlegroups.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: sata 2.5 plugged into a 3.5 sata enclosure?
On Jun 22, 2009, at 9:24 PM, insightinmind wrote: I honestly don't know why the thing works with everything BUT 3.5 drives using the USB interface? just strange. Is the size of the drive that's not working, making it push on something USB internally, that is shutting down that capability? 2.5 small ... 3.5 bigger ... i.e., does size matter? Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio I think most docks are setup to accommodate either size, I know mine has a cutout in the little access door for a 2.5 drive and if you insert the larger 3.5 drive the door is spring loaded and just collapses to allow the bigger drive insertion. HTH Just a message from Doug... http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh community. To subscribe to the HQ-A group, send email to hq-a +subscr...@googlegroups.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: VHS to DVD
On Jun 2, 2009, at 5:10 AM, Ralph Green wrote: Howdy, Tom Baker pointed you to one device. That is a reasonably expensive unit. I saw devices a few years ago for around $100 that would do what you need. I was looking at those devices seriously at the time, but never bought one. I really never needed one, because I was buying movies on LaserDisk and Macrovision corruption can't be put on LaserDisk videos. The devices are sometimes referred to as image stabilizers or something similar. There are legitimate uses for these and they are not just for copying Macrovision protected content. Macrovision works by fiddling with the vertical blanking interval of the frames. Some stabilizers completely replace the vertical blanking interval with a clean one. This is needed for analog devices that are sensitive to the fiddling. So, look for a stabilizer that rebuilds the vertical blanking interval and a side effect is that macrovision corruption of your images goes away. You also get a cleaner picture. Good luck, Ralph On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 19:59 -0700, Hosemonkey wrote: content into a form that will allow you to transfer it to DVD? Mac the Ripper works for DVD material, is there anything that serves the same purpose for VHS? The old saying, you get what you pay for, comes to mind. Having used both devices I can tell you the results using the Canopus ADVC300 are far superior to that of any other device I have tried. Of course if you don't care how the finished product comes out, any old A/D device will work. Also be prepared for some mismatch on sound and video using iMovie and iDVD. I used the '06 version and noticed this problem with some longer movies. They may have fixed this problem in later versions, but Final Cut doesn't suffer from this problem. Naturally it's more expensive though. Just a message from Doug... http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh community. To subscribe to the HQ-A group, send email to hq-a +subscr...@googlegroups.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS 10.5
On May 23, 2009, at 3:55 PM, lbte...@aol.com wrote: Is upgrading a 867 MDD to 10.5 advisable or let it alone? Bailey Owning the same computer I would have to say stay with 10.4. I tried 10.5 on an upgraded DA (1.6 Ghz) and it seemed sluggish to me. So much so that I decided to not even try it on the MDD. HTH Just a message from Doug... http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh community. To subscribe to the HQ-A group, send email to hq-a +subscr...@googlegroups.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes needle stuck
On May 19, 2009, at 2:46 PM, joe wrote: On May 19, 2009, at 12:53 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 19, 2009, at 10:29 AM, joe wrote: I've been having the weirdest iTunes problem. On certain songs, it sticks --it will literally play the same roughly 1 second part of a track over and over again. The timeline display toggles back and forth (like between 1:46 and 1:47 for example). I've had that problem with corrupted mpg or aac files ripped from CD's. If it's a MP3 song, try playing it with a different player, like VLC. I think you're right. I thought these were songs I'd copied from vinyl, but at least the one I'm looking at now was indeed ripped from a CD. In Amadeus I can see that it's messed up. I'm pretty sure these all worked fine for a long time, but a month or so back, I copied that partition back from a back-up, so I guess it got corrupted in the copying process at one point or another. What threw me is that iTunes would play like it was stuck (toggling back and forth over the same second). In VLC and Amadeus it doesn't do that. It actually plays through the entire track, but the sound is all messed up. Thanks, Joe I've had the same problem with copying MP3 files, especially over a network. All of my music library is safely on my file server and from there they play fine, but recently I copied the library over to a computer which is normally not connected to the network for playing when the network is not available. After listening to the files being played from that system I can tell there is some copy corruption. Which begs the question, why? Does it have to do with the nature of the MP3 files themselves (being compressed and all), or is the computer copying procedure suspect? Just a message from Doug... http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh community. To subscribe to the HQ-A group, send email to hq-a +subscr...@googlegroups.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Anyone update to 10.5.7 yet?
Mine says 4-6 hours, must be a huge demand. Just a message from Doug... http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh community. To subscribe to the HQ-A group, send email to hq-a +subscr...@googlegroups.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Anyone update to 10.5.7 yet?
On May 12, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 12, 2009, at 2:27 PM, Doug Burton wrote: Mine says 4-6 hours, must be a huge demand. I think Apple's servers are getting hammered. It just failed downloading twice for me, which is a first. Oddly mine (for an Intel iMac 1st gen) was 449 MB, not 256 MB. -- Bruce Johnson Yep, mine aborted also so I'm doing the 729 Mb combo update. Going pretty quick. Just a message from Doug... http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh community. To subscribe to the HQ-A group, send email to hq-a +subscr...@googlegroups.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Yet another iTunes question
On May 11, 2009, at 1:14 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 9, 2009, at 8:11 PM, Doug Burton wrote: In the iTunes DJ, using the album view, is there anyway to change the number of upcoming and/or recently played songs? Multiples of 5 are okay if you have a bunch of screen real estate, but I'm limited to 1024x600 on my netbook and I need to reset these values to 3. I looked in the prefs, no help there, is there another pref file used by iTunes somewhere that might be editable? I doubt it. Those setting are baked into in the program. You MIGHT be able to change the number by hacking into the resource files for iTunes with Xcode, but there's no guarantee it'll work. 1024 x 768 is the lowest officially supported resolution in OS X.with 1024 x 600 you're going to run into situations where the dialogs just won't fit. Also, this is a question about an unsupported intel-based mac install on a non-Apple computer, and WAAAY off topic for this list. -- Bruce Johnson Way too much trouble to go through for that. I used it today at work and just put it in the full screen album view mode, worked fine. And who said this was OS X? I have iTunes installed in Vista. Do you expect me to ask an iTunes question to a bunch of Windoze nerds??? Come on Bruce, you know better than that, you go to the experts when you need to know something. 8^) http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh community. To subscribe to the HQ-A group, send email to hq-a +subscr...@googlegroups.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: LOOKING FOR A POWER MAC G3 AIO TO PURCHASE
On Apr 22, 2009, at 8:33 PM, Rick wrote: I'm searching for this specific Power Mac - but since it's so old (98) is hard to find. Anyone know where one might be available? Thanks! Rick You might try posting on the Swaplist, they show up there from time to time. HTH Just a message from Doug... http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh community. To subscribe to the HQ-A group, send email to hq-a +subscr...@googlegroups.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrade Question
On Apr 2, 2009, at 12:39 PM, andre stark wrote: I have a very dependable G4 867 MHz machine that has A LOT of apps on it. However yo upgrade to FCP6 or even Imovie 6 I need Leopard on this machine. is it worth my while upgrading the processor and gfx card (about 500.00) or should I get a used G5 machine. Thanks Sincerely, André Stark Of all the replies I read I didn't see one which questioned why you can't install iMovie 6 on your machine. I have it on my MDD dual 867 and it runs fine. Naturally it will be faster with a faster system (ask Peter Haas about his tests times), but it does run and I edited most of my VHS movie collection on mine and burned DVD using iDVD. I believe FCP6 would require a faster processor however. HTH Just a message from Doug... http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh community. To subscribe to the HQ-A group, send email to hq-a +subscr...@googlegroups.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Weird screen saver issue.
On Apr 1, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Apr 1, 2009, at 6:25 AM, Arnel Tuazon wrote: I noticed a problem yesterday with my screen saver. I've set my screen saver to collage using my iPhoto library. The screen saver works during the first time period of inactivity, but after it's used again and then left inactive, the screen saver reverts to the computer name screen saver. I don't have random screen saver set and I've made sure that library is chosen. I've also used Applejack to clean the system, but it's doing the same thing again. Anyone know what is going on? Haven't had this problem, but perhaps ScreenSaver Fix will help: http://pcwizcomputer.com/weaksauce12/?p=939 From the website: Does your ScreenSaver come on randomly, even when you’ve set it to “Never”? This is actually a problem with real Macs as well as Hackintoshes. I found a solution posted by m41k on the InsanelyMac forums and it seems to be working so far, so I whipped up a little app to automate the process. To use it, just run the ScreenSaver Fix app and then reboot. - I'm not really sure this applies, but I don't think it would hurt anything if you want to try it. Just a message from Doug... http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh community. To subscribe to the HQ-A group, send email to hq-a +subscr...@googlegroups.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: video upgrade
On Mar 11, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Ralph Green wrote: On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 09:13 -0700, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 11, 2009, at 8:28 AM, abrock wrote: http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/Sapphire-100545-SR- Radeon9000Pro-Graphics-Card-Refurbished/3504887/product.html? sec_iid=33972 BIOS? Says it supports Apple displays (ADC). No it doesn't. There is no ADC connector on that thing, an ADC Howdy, I contacted Overstock to find out if the picture was wrond or the description. The card they have for sale does not include an ADC. They said they would update the sale page soon. I'd like a decent cheap video card for a Gigabit G4, so I checked. Good day, Ralph You can always put a WTB (Want to buy) on the swaplist. I saw one on there today looking for a similar video card. And then there is always Ebay, just be sure the card you buy is for a Mac. HTH Just a message from Doug... http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh community. To subscribe to the HQ-A group, send email to hq-a +subscr...@googlegroups.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Tiger can write to NTFS drives?
On Mar 10, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 6:17 AM, pdimage pdim...@btinternet.com wrote: On 10/3/09 07:23, Paul pper...@gmail.com wrote: After looking at the NTFS drive after installing it in a PC, I saw that some OS 10 files, such as .trashes, had been written to it. Is there anyone else with an NTFS drive and a vanilla installation of Tiger (with no special utilities) who can verify that Tiger can indeed write to it? From reading other forums, I get the idea that Tiger can do some writing to an NTFS drive, but it's not necessarily safe, especially if you try to do a lot of it. Problems with things like user rights on the files. Interestingly, I read something that claimed that Windows 2000 can write to HFS+ drives, even though XP can't. Gives me another reason to feel smart for sticking with 2000 on PC's. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ I have an external 360GB usb2 drive which is formatted NTFS and I can read and write to it in both Leopard and Tiger by using a small utility called Paragon NTFS if I remember correctly - I think there is also another utility which does the same though I cannot remember the name of it. Prior to using Paragon I could only read the drive - so I guess vanilla will be read only... Pete _ I saw this one in a Google search and wondered if it was any good. I use NTFS-3G along with MacFUSE on my Hack running 10.5.6. It works pretty well with drives that have been already formatted by Windows, but it had a problem trying to format my data drive as NTFS. Windows doesn't know Mac formatted drives exist. Typical MS BS. http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh community. To subscribe to the HQ-A group, send email to hq-a +subscr...@googlegroups.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: FIRE (For IM usage)
On Mar 8, 2009, at 2:01 PM, Dan wrote: At 7:47 PM -0600 3/7/2009, Stephen Conrad wrote: How long can you be idle before Fire disconnects you? Also, where in the Prefs do I set how long to keep me logged in? Each service has an activity time-out. If the client maintains the protocol's pings properly then you'll stay connected forever. http://fire.sourceforge.net/ Take the notice on that page to heart -- IM services have evolved quite a bit since the Fire was doused. Try Adium. http://www.adiumx.com/ All hail The Duck! - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth I use Adium also. Seems to handle all of the different IM services very well. I tried using FIre for awhile, but Adium was better. HTH Just a message from Doug... http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a A home for the Hackintosh community. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hackintoshes and PCs
On Mar 7, 2009, at 11:15 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 6, 2009, at 5:56 PM, Dan wrote: t's really getting tiring seeing (and answering) the same queries on different lists because our community is so spread out. Yea yea, I know. My whole reply belongs on the great blackhole, aka the lemlists list, where it will be duly ignored. What Dan said...in triplicate. On different lists, 8-P -- Bruce Johnson To keep everyone happy (I know it's impossible, but I can dream), I've setup a google groups list to address the needs of those interested in tinkering with these infernal machines. Some of the people on this list who enjoy it also will be regular contributors (I hope), so please join and post your comments there to make Len's job easier. Thank you. Just a message from Doug... http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a - The Hackintosh community has a home now. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Apple jumped the shark...
On Mar 6, 2009, at 12:54 PM, Steve R wrote: At 9:09 AM -0500 3/6/09, Dan posted: At 4:53 AM -0500 3/6/2009, Nikki Wraith wrote: Breaking Federal law? Err. IANAL, but I don't get it. You violate the EULA, which would maybe violate contract laws, but what federal law do you speak of? I know some have mentioned the DMCA - but it doesn't apply here because there is no copyright protection circumvention. The EULA *is* a contract. There are laws governing contracts, breach, damages etc at both the Federal and State levels. Depending on the type of breach, one might face criminal and/or civil consequences. The DMCA is federal. As for its application here... hacking OS X is an act of creating a derivative work, done by decoding part of the copyrighted OS. That there decoding is illegal. These issues will, hopefully, be sorted out by the courts this year. Until then, running a hackintosh in a business environment creates a rather dangerous liability... And yet some of the greatest inventions have come about by people hacking what exists to see what else it can do. Maybe this is why American inventions haven't kept pace with other countries -- too many lawyers stopping innovations. Steve R Truer words were never spoken Steve. That's why some of us ignore the idiots and just get on with our lives. Just a message from Doug... 1st Hack: GA-945GCMX-S2 - E4500 CPU (2.2 Ghz) - 2 Gb RAM - 7200 GS (256 Mb) 2nd Hack: GA-P35-DS3L (V2) - E8400 CPU (3.0 Ghz -45nm) - 4 Gb RAM - 7200 GS (256 Mb) 3rd Hack: MSI Wind Desktop PC - 945GC - Intel Atom 1.6 Ghz CPU - 2 Gb RAM 4th Hack: GA-EP45-UD3P - Q9550 (2.83 Ghz C2 Quad) - 8 Gb RAM - 8400 GS (256 Mb) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G3 Smurf file server - advice required
On Feb 26, 2009, at 11:32 AM, Gukumatz wrote: Hi listers, I've decided to (attempt to) convert my rarely used G3 400mhz into a media file server (music and video) as I've not been at all impressed with the NAS boxes I've tried/researched, but I could do with a little help. The intention is to upgrade it to gigabit ethernet and also use a sata card for controlling 4 hd's arranged as a Raid 1+0 array using 10.3 server os. I intend using an existing IDE hd as the boot volume and dedicate the sata drives to storage, bypassing the need to upgrade the ATA controller with its drive size limits. I have 2 'U' brackets to use so that I can fit the 4 sata hds required for the array. I have 3 immediate issues I would like help with:- 1. Will 400mhz be enough for my intended purpose or do I need to upgrade the cpu. 2. Could I make do with the original psu and use molex-sata power adapters to power the sata hds or should I replace the psu with one that has more grunt and sata power built in? 3. I'm having problems finding a decent SATA card with 4 connectors, the only one I've found so far is this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SATA-Raid-PCI-Card-with-4x-Internal-Ports-for- PowerMac_W0QQitemZ270344385311QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Computing_Apple_Ma c_Accessories? hash=item270344385311_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_trkparms=72%3A1690|66% 3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318 Apologies for the long link, tinyurl won't provide a working shortened version, the item no. on eBay UK is 270344385311. Does anyone have any experience of these cards and are they any good? Many thanks guku :-D Hi guku, I did what you're planning to do, but mine was a 350 Mhz BW and I used an ATA controller card with 4 data drives and 1 boot HD. It was a nightmare of cables, but it worked fine otherwise. I used this setup for 6-8 months before I got a deal on 2 DA's (533 Mhz) and decided to upgrade as the DA has a faster bus and gigabit ethernet built in. At the same time I also upgraded to a 4 port SATA card with 4-300 Gb SATA HD's. At first I ran it with all the drives inside the case, but decided to go with long SATA cables and an external case for the 4 data drives. The next planned upgrade will be to 2-1 Tb drives, but I'm waiting for the price to drop a bit more. BTW, I use ChronoSync 4 to keep the backup drives current HTH . 1st Hack: GA-945GCMX-S2 - E4500 CPU (2.2 Ghz) - 2 Gb RAM - 7200 GS (256 Mb) 2nd Hack: GA-P35-DS3L (V2) - E8400 CPU (3.0 Ghz -45nm) - 4 Gb RAM - 7200 GS (256 Mb) 3rd Hack: MSI Wind Desktop PC - 945GC - Intel Atom 1.6 Ghz CPU - 2 Gb RAM 4th Hack: GA-EP45-UD3P - Q9550 (2.83 Ghz C2 Quad) - 8 Gb RAM - 8400 GS (256 Mb) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
OT printer help
Can one of the laser printer experts on the list please take a look at a scanned page from my HP Color laserjet 2600n and tell me what I need to do to fix it? Contact me off list and I will send the image (504 kb JPG) to you via email, along with details of what happened. (504 Kb JPG) Thanks. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What File System on a G3?
Make sure you are trying to open the actual file and not the ghost file which is created by the Mac OS. I know this from using a Mac file server and my Windows machines on the network. The ghost file should appears as almost grayed out in Windows file explorer. These files may be either zero byte files or very small in size. These files create havoc when I copy files to my MP3 player from a Mac running OS X. HTh On Jan 28, 2009, at 7:24 PM, rogerthebassplayer wrote: Hey Bruce, Thanks for the reply. I've downloaded MacDrive, and it's installed. I can now see the G Drive, which is the one in the USB case I got from the G3. I'm trying to get images from the Mac HD to a folder on a Windows drive, and the .jpg images don't display, nor do they open in Irfanview- what I use for a photo editor. Any clues on using this app to make that happen? I don't know if I should try and move them without re-naming them first- or should I? Thanks for your time, Rog. On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jan 28, 2009, at 12:21 PM, rogerthebasspla...@gmail.com wrote: I have an I/O Magic USB HD case installed with the HD in question in it. My question really is how do I get the Windows file system (NTFS) to 'see' the Mac file system? You need MacDrive http://www.mediafour.com/products/macdrive/ if you want to read the disk. I have also installed a demo version of Partition Magic, as I was told by a guy at I/O Magic Support that it would be able to convert the HD to another (NTFS I guess) file system. If all you want to do is reformat it, Windows should let you do that. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs 1st Hack: GA-945GCMX-S2 - E4500 CPU (2.2 Ghz) - 2 Gb RAM - 7200 GS (256 Mb) 2nd Hack: GA-P35-DS3L (V2) - E8400 CPU (3.0 Ghz -45nm) - 4 Gb RAM - 7200 GS (256 Mb) 3rd Hack: MSI Wind Desktop PC - 945GC - Intel Atom 1.6 Ghz CPU - 2 Gb RAM 4th Hack: GA-EP45-UD3P - The rest to be announced... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
iWork '09
I just downloaded the trial version of this and have been playing around in Pages. Does anyone know if the docs can be saved as PDF's, or does this take another app to do? Just a message from Doug... 1st Hack: GA-945GCMX-S2 - E4500 CPU (2.2 Ghz) - 2 Gb RAM - 7200 GS (256 Mb) 2nd Hack: GA-P35-DS3L (V2) - E8400 CPU (3.0 Ghz -45nm) - 4 Gb RAM - 7200 GS (256 Mb) 3rd Hack: MSI Wind Desktop PC - 945GC - Intel Atom 1.6 Ghz CPU - 2 Gb RAM 4th Hack: GA-EP45-UD3P - The rest to be announced... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iWork '09
On Jan 24, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Tony Gamble wrote: On 24-Jan-09, at 1:26 PM, Doug Burton wrote: I just downloaded the trial version of this and have been playing around in Pages. Does anyone know if the docs can be saved as PDF's, or does this take another app to do? Just a message from Doug... To save as PDF, just open the Print dialogue (CMD+P) and from the PDF drop-down menu in the lower left corner, select Save as PDF. I use this method in every printable app. - Tony Very cool, I know I'm buying it now! About time Apple came up with a decent alternative to office. Just a message from Doug... 1st Hack: GA-945GCMX-S2 - E4500 CPU (2.2 Ghz) - 2 Gb RAM - 7200 GS (256 Mb) 2nd Hack: GA-P35-DS3L (V2) - E8400 CPU (3.0 Ghz -45nm) - 4 Gb RAM - 7200 GS (256 Mb) 3rd Hack: MSI Wind Desktop PC - 945GC - Intel Atom 1.6 Ghz CPU - 2 Gb RAM 4th Hack: GA-EP45-UD3P - The rest to be announced... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dumb Powerbook Question
On Jan 4, 2009, at 1:23 PM, James E. Therrault wrote: I have an Aluminum Powerbook G4, 2GB ram, 1.25GHz processor that has a built-in microphone. I know how to turn the microphone on, set the levels how in the blazes do you record something? TIA, JT A very good question and the answer is you can't. At least without downloading a sound editor or other recording software. Audacity comes to mind as adequate and free. Not sure how Windows got that over OS X, but they have always included a simple sound recorder app. HTH Just a message from Doug... 1st Hack: GA-945GCMX-S2 - E4500 CPU (2.2 Ghz) - 2 Gb RAM - 7200 GS (256 Mb) 2nd Hack: GA-P35-DS3L (V2) - E8400 CPU (3.0 Ghz -45nm) - 4 Gb RAM - 7200 GS (256 Mb) 3rd Hack: MSI Wind Desktop PC - 945GC - Intel Atom 1.6 Ghz CPU - 2 Gb RAM Hack in waiting: GA-945GCMX-S2 - Celeron D (3.06 Ghz) - 1 Gb RAM --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Disk Utility
On Dec 13, 2008, at 10:41 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: On Dec 13, 2008, at 11:13 AM, Dan wrote: Just use Apple's Disk Utility. As Bill points out in his reply - it's available on the OS DVD, so you can use it to repair your boot volume. Or you can boot on your external clone/backup and run it from there. Disk Utility handles most problems quite well. If it can't, then you can purchase DiskWarrior or Data Rescue ... but really, at that point, the only time you'd be reaching for those particular utilities is if you totally failed to make backups. (hint hint) :) Okay ... I always backup my data. But I never made an external clone of everything because I didn't have a bootable drive. Guess I figured if anything went horribly wrong I'd just reinstall the System, put back the data, and voila. I am thinking that's what they are referring to when they write nuke and pave. However, is there a better way and can you point me in direction of a resource I can use to make a clone? Many thanks as always! Anne Keller Smith You can use Super Duper or Carbon Copy Cloner to make bootable copies. HTH Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Popcopy
On Dec 10, 2008, at 7:52 AM, John Musbach wrote: On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Doug Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know of a clipboard utility by this name? I found it and downloaded it and it's just what I was looking for. Unfortunately it cannot be registered as the author's site doesn't exist anymore. I can provide several possible registration keys if the author is truly MIA and thusly seems to have abandoned his product... -- Best Regards, John Musbach Thanks much for the offer John, but I have since downloaded and purchased ScrapX, which worked well for what I wanted it for, which was to save a copy of all my album artwork. Popcopy would have worked as well, but I prefer to support those who still are developing their software. Not sure what happened with the Popcopy author as he simply seems to have vanished. I tried emailing the address provided but never heard back from him. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Single 533MHZ processor upgrade to dual??
No, MDD is a completely different setup. On Dec 6, 2008, at 8:12 PM, jonas ulrich wrote: How do you get the quicksilvers processors to work? Will and MDD processor work? -Jonas On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Len Gerstel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 6, 2008, at 7:52 PM, jonas ulrich wrote: I just got a Digital Audio single 533MHZ powermac for $25 on craigslist. I know that Apple made a dual processor version of this same powermac. Can i put dual 533MHZ processors in it? -Jonas Yes, the dual 533 card will plug straight in, along with the 667 and 733 single processors from other DAs. With a very easy mod you can also put a processor from a Quick Silver into your DA. I have used single processors from QS's into DAs with no problem. Meanwhile, I have had no luck with trying to get dual 1GHz processors working in my DA, but others on the list have had no problems. If you go the QS processor route, avoid the 733 and single 800. These do not have a level 3 cache and will run barely faster than your single 533. There was a single 867 on the swap list (either yesterday or today) for $30, and that would be almost as fast as a dual 533. Remember that 10.4 will run on that Mac with any processor, but to run 10.5 without a relatively easy software hack you need to have at least a 867 in it. As far as I have heard, 10.6 will be Intel Mac only, so don't count on there even being a decent hack to get it to work on a G series Mac. Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes
On Nov 27, 2008, at 8:54 AM, Ray wrote: Are there any other alternatives than iTunes for the Mac? Perhaps i am missing something but I don't understand why there isn't a Now Playing window. So that as you play songs, they are generated in a Now Playing window. This is a common window on any MP3 player. __ Sig: Specs: G4 MDD 1.25 [FW400,running 10.4 Tiger Pittsburgh, PA 15237 Not exactly sure what you are talking about Ray, iTunes has about any kind of display you might want. If you are talking about a small window which displays the current song, just press the green button and the display changes to that. As far as viewing in the full mode, you can select from many different views. I prefer to use the party shuffle with each album displayed on screen as played. HTH Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Plastics Care
On Nov 27, 2008, at 11:56 AM, Amanda Ward wrote: Hi All... I have a question! I just got a monitor from Craig’s list, for free. It’s a 19” SGI, CRT. No, no not a Mac, but I’m using on my one of my Macs. What a beast... must be close to 50 pounds. Anyhow, some “security conscious” individual wrote the system root password on the front in black felt tip. Is there any way to remove this darned blemish or, at least fade it a bit? Thanks for any tips or advice! Amanda Some say rubbing alcohol, but I've had good luck with products like soft scrub. Takes several applications. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes
On Nov 27, 2008, at 10:21 PM, Ray wrote: Just a message from Doug... is MusicMatch still active? It seems ever since Yahoo took it over, it went in obscurity. Version 10 is the last know version. Actually there used to be a Mac version and is still available. http://www.tucows.com/preview/ 204005 . You can still get all the Windows versions. Version 8 and 8.1 seemed buggy. Version 9 wasn't too bad but version 7.5 was the best and still works and flawlessly burns CD's. I believe it used Roxio's burning program. I like the way it groups complete CD's and how you can expand and collapse them. It makes the library very neat and tidy. I still use it. http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=mmatch I do remember it had a great ripper on it. Very fast too. I think I burned more than a few CDs with it. The same thing happened to WinAmp when AOL took over that. Complete bloatware these days. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Popcopy
On Nov 23, 2008, at 6:13 PM, Andy wrote: On Nov 23, 2008, at 5:33 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Doug Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know of a clipboard utility by this name? I found it and downloaded it and it's just what I was looking for. Unfortunately it cannot be registered as the author's site doesn't exist anymore. Kind of funny being as the program was just updated last month. Just a message from Doug... Did you get it from here? http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/29946 I'm not sure where I actually ended up downloading it from, but it was available from several different places. But all attempts to register the software at www.popcopy.net have failed. I spent most of the afternoon trying to find another address for the author so I could have a non-crippled registered version. I've just emailed to this address given at the end of the read me file included with the app. [EMAIL PROTECTED] asking if it's still possible to register this or if he can release a serial number to make it freely available. Let you know if I get a reply and you could also try emailing yourself, there more people sound interested... Andy Thanks Andy, I guess I didn't read far enough down in the readme file. I did likewise, hope we hear from someone. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Gold case?
On Nov 20, 2008, at 3:10 AM, Ian Moffatt wrote: On 20/11/08 04:24, Doug Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While searching for an external 5.25 firewire case I came across this at Computer Geeks. Can someone please tell me why this case cost right at a hundred bucks? Don't know but I picked up a couple of brand new unopened generic ones at a car boot sale for £5 each ($7.50). I still have one unopened you could have at cost but the shipping would be stupid price from here :-( Incidentally why does the shipping info on that ad specifically say they will not deliver to Massachusetts or District of Columbia? Is it a tax thing? Cheers Ian Thanks for the offer Ian, but I found another one here in the states for $12.99 at a place called Directron. I saw that notice about shipping also and wondered the same thing. Must be specifically related to that item only as I don't recall ever seeing it on any other items purchased from the Geeks. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Gold case?
While searching for an external 5.25 firewire case I came across this at Computer Geeks. Can someone please tell me why this case cost right at a hundred bucks? http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=F5U210-DTcat=CSE Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS X and OS X Server differences?
On Nov 12, 2008, at 8:04 PM, Clark Martin wrote: Dennis Myhand wrote: What is the difference between 10.4 and 10.4 server? Are they basically the same OS with Server being able to provide network resources to clients who log on? Or is there more to it than that? Thanks, Dennis The OS is basically the same but Server includes several applications for providing services and the control of same. They are treated differently in Software Update. There are different versions of the OS updates for the two. -- Clark Martin As Dan said earlier, just use 10.4.x and Sharepoints. That is what I use and it works great. No way to justify the additional cost of server in my book. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Another annoyance
On Nov 7, 2008, at 12:13 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
On Nov 7, 2008, at 10:00 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
My suggestion (which just came to me) is to write a small Applescript
closing all finder windows that runs after your volume mounts in your
startup items.
I'm really rusty in AS, but I'll look into it...this is something
that
annoys me, too.
I may be rusty in AS, but my Google-Fu is definitely in good shape:
http://tinyurl.com/5ez2gc
HOW TO CLOSE ALL FINDER WINDOWS
Another useful script is this one to close all Finder windows:
tell application Finder
close every information window
{}
close every window
{}
end tell
Open Script Editor, paste the whole section there from tell to end
tell into the editor window. Click Compile, click File Save As.
Set it to save as an application, give it a location. Next open System
Prefs, Accounts and in your user prefs click on Login Items. Drag the
saved script app to the bottom of the list, and voila, all those
annoying windows will close automatically on startup.
--
Bruce Johnson
A thing of beauty to behold, you're not getting older Bruce, you're
getting better. 8^) Thanks!
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Re: Another annoyance
On Nov 7, 2008, at 11:30 AM, Dan wrote: At 6:47 PM -0500 11/6/2008, Doug Burton wrote: On Nov 6, 2008, at 12:48 PM, Dan wrote: At 3:20 PM -0500 11/5/2008, Doug Burton wrote: upgraded DA to Tiger [no further config information supplied] no further supplied because it's not relevant. Finder's behavior wrt networked volumes has changed several times during Tiger releases. At this point, I donno if I should suggest just erasing the DS_Store file or first find out what file system is on the network volume and how exactly you're handling / created the login item. OS X 10.4.8 vs .11. Not really sure if that's relevant but then I can't really tell without full information... Ya. I need more coffee. - Dan. Hope you got your coffee Dan, personally I never touch the stuff, can't stand the smell either. Reminds me of when I was a kid and I associated that smell with time to get up as mom was fixing dad's breakfast in the kitchen, which naturally included coffee. As for my upgraded DA it's running 10.4.11 of course. 1 Gb of RAM and the processor is a Newer Tech 1.6 Ghz from OWC. To facilitate the volumes being mounted when starting Tiger I just dragged the icon to the startup items list. It was much better when I had Leopard on here as for the network drive access, but the newer OS was a bit quirky and slow on this machine. It likes Tiger much better. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Another annoyance
On Nov 6, 2008, at 12:48 PM, Dan wrote: At 3:20 PM -0500 11/5/2008, Doug Burton wrote: upgraded DA to Tiger [no further config information supplied] no further supplied because it's not relevant. when [networked drives] mount the drive window pops up on the desktop and has to be closed each time I start up the computer. Is there any way to have them not do this? Not sure exactly what a drive window is. Do you mean the individual volume's root level directory is being opened in Finder? Okay, if I double-click on a drive icon on my desktop it opens up a window with the contents of the drive. That is the window I am referring to. I have 2 network drives which reside on my file server set to mount in my login items. When the computer starts up, those 2 windows pop up on the desktop and I have to click the close button on each one to get rid of them. This is a PITA to me and I prefer the way networked drives are handled in Leopard better. The state of those windows is held in the volume's .DS_Store file. If the windows are closed when the drive is dismounted, they should stay that way. If they're not, then perhaps you don't have write access to the .DS_Store file... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How do you silence a G5's startup chime?
On Nov 5, 2008, at 2:51 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: You can use StartupSound System Prefenence Pane to control the startup sound volume level. http://www5e.biglobe.ne.jp/~arcana/index.en.html Thanks much for the link Kris, I like to leave the volume level of my speakers up higher so when I want to crank up a song I can, but the volume control for the speakers is out of easy reach. This lets me leave the volume up without getting blown away by the bong! Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Another annoyance
Since downgrading my upgraded DA to Tiger, I've noticed it runs better, a little quicker perhaps. But one thing bothers me a lot is the way that Tiger handles network drives which are mounted when starting up. It's fine that they are located on the desktop under the physical drives, but when they mount the drive window pops up on the desktop and has to be closed each time I start up the computer. Is there any way to have them not do this? Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Administrator account name and password?
On Nov 5, 2008, at 3:17 PM, hackmiester / Hunter Fuller wrote: 2008/11/5 Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Nov 5, 2008, at 9:34 AM, norm46 wrote: My G4 Mac with a 1 ghz processor and 1 gig ram has worked very well but as developed an annoying habit. When ever I try to click the lock on a system preference I'm asked for an administration name and password. I put in what I believe is the right information but this is not accepted. If I use root as name I can get in. Somewhere along the line the root account was enabled. This can mess up OS X really badly if handled wrongly. Most often I see this on systems owned by previously heavy Linux users who are hesitant to use OSX'es 'sudo' oriented administration model in favor of Linux's root oriented one. Then they charge in based on 'OSX is Since when does Linux not have a root oriented admin model? I guess what I really mean is, what is this, the 80s? I've used sudo for years... I wasn't aware anyone still used su (or an outright root login)... Most still use root. I know Ubuntu and a couple of others have went to sudo, but most of the distros I've used lately still have a person create both a user and root account. just linux with pretty eye-candy X-windows and bollix up the whole system. OSX does a hell of a lot more on the back end making it a consumer- friendly Unix, MANY things do not work like they do in Linux. I have used the start up disk to change the system password. No luck. Any ideas? I have all the latest system updates. If this is happening even AFTER you've reset the password, then what's happened is that root owns a BUNCH of stuff root isn't supposed to own. Try running Repair Permissions. That MIGHT work but I'm not sure. An ArchiveRe-install, AFTER disabling root's login, MIGHT fix it, but you may be looking at a true NukePave solution. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -hackmiester Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How do you silence a G5's startup chime?
The circuitry is nothing more than the jack that you put the plug into. When nothing is plugged in the internal speaker is wired into the audio out. As soon as you put a plug into the jack, the audio is then routed to that plug. It's pretty simple really. Just a message from Doug... On Nov 5, 2008, at 3:38 PM, Christopher Icha wrote: Busted circuitry! My Ali iMac used to start quietly (I had a minijack plugged in to keep it so). All of a sudden one day, it started bonging and has done so ever since. It drives me crazy! I thought I had screwed up some settings or something. Is this busted circuitry a known issue? i On Nov 05, 2008, at 08:19 pm, hackmiester / Hunter Fuller wrote: 2008/11/5 Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks Kris! I downloaded and installed that little control panel, and it does indeed silence the startup chime. That fixed that. So that's half the problem solved, and the original complaint taken care of. But sound continues to come out of the internal speaker the rest of the time, such as when I'm editing video in Final Cut, or watching a YouTube video. I want to silence this computer completely when the headset is plugged in. If there is no other way to do it, I'll still have to go into the box and unplug the internal speaker, darn it. Looks like you'll have to do that because it sounds like the circuitry that detects a plugged-in device and acts on that detection (i.e., silences the speaker) is busted. Thanks! Tom -- -hackmiester --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mac OS on PC?
On Oct 25, 2008, at 4:19 PM, Doctor K wrote: Hi, I saw a message the other day which mentioned that a PC can run a Mac OS. My beloved Smurf bit it a while ago, and I've been using a Toshiba Satellite laptop, which I found as an unbelievable bargain ($20.00 plus a $25.00 ebay power supply) at a garage sale this summer. I've been using this laptop for a month or so now, and am getting comfortable with it, but there are still a lot of things that I did with my Mac, that I don't know how to do with this (I did install Safari though!). Anyway, I'd appreciate any info on how to run OS X on it. This has a 60 gig HD. If possible, I'd like to keep the existing Windows XP on it, but would not hesitate to wipe the drive and install a Mac OS, if it is necessary. Thanks in advance for your thoughts. John John, you can look here to see if your particular Toshiba is supported with OSx86. In general there is a lot of good info on the Insanelymac.com forum also. http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page Scroll down to the section about hardware compatibility list (HCL) and look under portable computers. HTH Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Apple Psystar Come To A Settlement!
On Oct 26, 2008, at 12:34 PM, PeterH wrote: On Oct 26, 2008, at 2:02 AM, Charles Lenington wrote: Yes, please. General instructions: 1) Your choice of case and PSU (Antec 300 or better, with Antec 500 EarthWatts or better PSU), 2) Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3L or similar mobo, 3) your choice of nVidia video card (any of the 7000, 8000 and some 9000 will do), 4) your choice of processor (Intel E8400 C2D is very good, an Intel 9450 C2Q is better, although most work only needs a C2D), 5) Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro 7 water cooling unit, 6) 2 GB to 8 GB of PC2-6400 RAM (any of the usual suspects will do, even most generics), 7) any generic Firewire PCI card (VIA chip set works well), 8) any generic R8169 gigabit Ethernet card, 9) your choice of SATA optical drive (Lite-On 20X or Samsung 22X DVD burner), and 10) your choice of SATA hard drive (Seagate 500, 750 or 1000 GB, plus a second for backup). There, that should get you started. I built two, mostly from components I already had on-hand, including some organ donors from my Psystar OpenComputer (nee' Open Mac). Overall cost is influenced by what you have available. I've build examples with E1200, E2200, E4400, E8400 and Q6600 processors, and G31/ICH7 and P35/ICH9 motherboards. The smallest, and perhaps the least expensive, were Shuttle G31-based examples, which utilized hand-me-down IDE hard and optical drives, and entry-level Core 2 (but branded as Pentium) dual core processors. The Shuttles themselves were obtained from Shuttle for $129 as factory refurbished examples, but were actual brand-new in every respect. I've built HackBooks using GMAX3100/ICH7 laptops, too. Just my $.02 to add, check out the InsanelyMac.com forum on building these systems. There is a wealth of info there: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showforum=137 Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: USB card versus USB hub
On Oct 19, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Steve R wrote: Are there any advantages speedwise to having an internal multi-port USB card versus having an external multi-port USB hub (hopefully able to draw its power from the internal USB port)? My G5/1.8 has 3-480Mbps USB ports which may or may not already be sharing the bus? Steve R I can't speak as to an internal card, but I just bought a couple of CyberPower USB 2.0 powered 4 port hubs from Wal-Mart. At about $20 a pop, they work very well. Of course it will operate without the power brick plugged in, but I find so many devices don't work this way that I just always use mine plugged in. HTH Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: When did this happen?
On Oct 19, 2008, at 3:05 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Oct 18, 2008, at 9:53 PM, Doug Burton wrote: Well mine doesn't. It stays in the dock unless I click on the icon, which opens the queue. Then I close the queue and the dock icon goes away. On my BW running Panther the icon would pop into the dock when I printed something and go away as soon as it was finished printing. I checked everywhere I could think to look and can't find any settings that will cause this to occur in 10.5.5 on my newly upgraded DA. Is this a networked printer or a local one? One of each and both stay in the dock. I find this happens intermittently with the printers I use (although they're all networked. It may be some sort of network mis- communication.) Have you tried dropping and re-adding the printer? No Also, on a related tangent, was your DA 'newly-upgraded' to 10.5? Did it keep its printers? Did you use Upgrade or ArchiveInstall? I ask because in all but one of the cases where I've upgraded a system to 10.5 using the AR method, all printers were gone when it came back up, they had to be re-added. I'm now wondering if I didn't accidentally use an 'Upgrade' instead of ArchiveInstall on the one system where the printer didn't go away... -- Bruce Johnson No it was a new install to a clean drive. The printers were added later. I first noticed this on my hackintosh which runs 10.5.0. It only has a network printer but it also stays in the dock until I manually close it once it's called to print. Just for S G I down graded the DA to Tiger using AI. The printers icons now disappear from the dock once the print job is complete. I wasn't really happy with Leopard on this system anyway and the DA originally had 10.4 on it when I got it. It now performs better and the icons act like they should. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: When did this happen?
On Oct 19, 2008, at 4:11 PM, Donald Hall wrote: On Oct 19, 2008, at 3:48 PM, Doug Burton wrote: On Oct 19, 2008, at 3:05 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Oct 18, 2008, at 9:53 PM, Doug Burton wrote: Well mine doesn't. It stays in the dock unless I click on the icon, which opens the queue. Then I close the queue and the dock icon goes away. On my BW running Panther the icon would pop into the dock when I printed something and go away as soon as it was finished printing. I checked everywhere I could think to look and can't find any settings that will cause this to occur in 10.5.5 on my newly upgraded DA. Is this a networked printer or a local one? One of each and both stay in the dock. No it was a new install to a clean drive. The printers were added later. I first noticed this on my hackintosh which runs 10.5.0. It only has a network printer but it also stays in the dock until I manually close it once it's called to print. Click and hold on the icon in the dock (Control+Click, Right Click, also work). See menu that pops up. -Donald Hall Very good Donald, it works as it should now on my hack. Doubt that I will put Leopard back on the DA though, Tiger runs so much better on that computer. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
When did this happen?
At what point did the printer popup icon in the dock lose it's ability to close once the print queue was empty? I know it closes itself in Panther, what about Tiger? I know it doesn't in Leopard. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Quick References for Cleaning G4 Acrylic Cases
I use Goo-Gone, it works great Bill. Just a message from Doug... On Oct 18, 2008, at 7:57 PM, insightinmind wrote: Any quick hints on getting glue / tape-guck off the clear acrylic G4 cases? Mineral Spirits ok? I know acetone is not ok. Thanks Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Quick References for Cleaning G4 Acrylic Cases
On Oct 19, 2008, at 12:08 AM, Charles Davis wrote: On Oct 19, 2008, at 12:00 AM, insightinmind wrote: On Oct 18, 2008, at 11:56 PM, insightinmind wrote: About the Goo Gone ... My partner brought me home some a short while ago ... per List Recommendations ... I see it has acetone in it ... no need to worry? such a small quantity? That stuff alone eats tiles floors ... This actually says Goo Gone Xtreme Remover. Is that ok? Not some pumped up variation? Bill I think I'd look for the 'milder' version. Chuck D. Yeah, mine just says Goo Gone, nothing extreme. I've used mine on plastic computer cases several times, it works very well to get those nasty stickers off that people sometimes put on. Okay, it says non toxic and the next line says to keep out of reach of children and call a physician if swallowed! Huh? Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A eMail Issue
On Oct 15, 2008, at 6:17 PM, Richard Ramsowr wrote: Evening all I trust after we all get our fill of the debate tonight... someone will be able to find a solution for me for my little eMail issue Somehow a while back, a small icon of a boxer dog stared popping up on my upper right hand side of my eMails. oppose the From/Subject/Date/To info! How does one remove this cute little icon because I use this address in my business and well, it just is really business like... Yours Richard Ramsowr Are these dog images in mail that your receive or send? If receive then it's probably people with dot mac accounts. I know those accounts give you the ability to insert an image in this space. HTH Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox
On Oct 15, 2008, at 8:30 PM, McGrude wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Stephen Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I updated tot he newest Firefox (2.0.0.17) Um... the latest Firefox is 3.0.3. I believe that's only for 10.4 and above. He must be using Panther as I just booted up in 10.3.9 and my Firefox is also 2.0.0.17. I think this thread is related to the one previously about Gmail. If so, then perhaps the problem is he is using an older OS than everyone who is trying to help him. Maybe that has something to do with his original problem. Just a thought. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need big LCD monitor recommendation for G5
On Oct 12, 2008, at 3:46 PM, RediG3-5 wrote: On Oct 12, 12:12 pm, James E. Therrault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom wrote: On Oct 12, 12:05 pm, Alex Smith (K4RNT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The two 22 LCDs I've worked with the most are the two that I'd recommend: Samsung SyncMaster 226bw ViewSonic VX2245wm My favorite LCD vendors are Samsung and ViewSonic. I highly recommend both. We just purchased a NOC (I guess that's an N) 2219S-1 from Circuit City. It measure 12 h x 19 w and diagonal 23. My wife likes it as it's a big improvement over here iBook screen. But those proportions seem like they are made for HD TV. The images are elongated and I can't figure how to set it for correction. My 17 Dell (10.5 x 13) is more normal and I like it a lot. Anyway, comments on this proportion matter might be enlightening and it's something to consider. Cliff Not nitpicking Cliff, but I think that might be AOC. I could be wrong though. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
ATI Radeon 9000 PRO into upgraded DA
Question 1: Will this card be properly recognized by 10.5.5 which is currently installed, or do I need to install the card and then re- install the OS? Question 2: What is the advantage/disadvantage of using the DVI connection rather than the traditional VGA? Just some questions from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ATI Radeon 9000 PRO into upgraded DA
On Oct 11, 2008, at 11:25 AM, Doug Burton wrote: Question 1: Will this card be properly recognized by 10.5.5 which is currently installed, or do I need to install the card and then re- install the OS? It was recognized Question 2: What is the advantage/disadvantage of using the DVI connection rather than the traditional VGA? Much better looking picture! Seems faster, although that may be the increased RAM to 1 Gb. Yes the card arrived in the mail today and as suspected, DVD's now play fine. Plus I am really liking this Acer 22 widescreen LCD monitor. This should make a good system for me for awhile. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ATI Radeon 9000 PRO into upgraded DA
On Oct 11, 2008, at 11:37 AM, insightinmind wrote: On Oct 11, 2008, at 11:25 AM, Doug Burton wrote: Question 1: Will this card be properly recognized by 10.5.5 which is currently installed, or do I need to install the card and then re- install the OS? I installed an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro under Leopard 10.5.5 and found the Apple supplied drivers were the ones to use ... not any drivers supplied by ATI (important point). My guess is that they are already there? I just use the VGA connector. No info on DVI, except on other cards I used a DVI to VGA converter so my monitor connection would fit closer, as the VGA connector wasn't far enough away from the PCI slot opening (on a PowerPC 8500/9500 using an ATI Radeon 7000ME). That was a installation advantage for me at the time. Bill Connelly If you get the chance you might want to give the DVI a try Bill. Made a big difference in the sharpness of the image for me. I noticed a lot of jaggies with the VGA connection. JMHO Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
No valid video device found
G4 DA with Newer Tech 1.6 Ghz CPU, 512 Mb RAM, Rage Pro 128 video card, Acer 22 widescreen monitor, running 10.5.5 I popped in a Monk DVD and wanted to check out the new display. Imagine my surprise when I got the above message. I know the Rage 128 Pro card is crap, but one just like it worked fine with the same combo drive in my BW. What gives? Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
iTunes store question
How do you de-authorize a computer that is no longer used for iTunes purchases? Someone told me this is possible, were they wrong? Just another message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: No valid video device found
On Oct 10, 2008, at 8:09 PM, Doug Burton wrote: G4 DA with Newer Tech 1.6 Ghz CPU, 512 Mb RAM, Rage Pro 128 video card, Acer 22 widescreen monitor, running 10.5.5 I popped in a Monk DVD and wanted to check out the new display. Imagine my surprise when I got the above message. I know the Rage 128 Pro card is crap, but one just like it worked fine with the same combo drive in my BW. What gives? Think I just figured this one out. I rebooted into 10.3.9 and the DVD player works fine there. I never thought about it but I guess that 10.5.x no longer recognizes older video cards and doesn't install any driver for them. That might also explain why I can't browse my album artwork in iTunes. I've got the newer video card on it's way so I won't worry too much about finding the correct driver for the old card. Sorry to bother everyone, resume normal activity. Just an answer from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Still Fuzzy TFT
I'm getting in on this rather late, but were you by chance using Flurry as your screen saver? The reason I ask is because I had a similar problem using a cheap LCD. I left it on with Flurry as the screen saver and started noticing the fuzzy looking image on the screen that you describe. More noticeable in the screen text, but generally a fuzzy image. I stopped using Flurry on that monitor and it cleared up. Just a thought. Just a message from Doug... On Oct 9, 2008, at 4:08 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Oct 9, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Simon Royal wrote: Bruce The monitor is a cheap TFT given to me by a friend who used it on a G4 Cube and a PC and he didn't notice bad picturing. Might he have lower standards or (more likely) simply been used to it? I remember when I finally replaced my old 17 monitor with a new one how incredibly fuzzy and dim it was, though I'd have said it was just fine the day before... I haven't tried it on another Mac myself, but I do have an iMac G3 which I am going to hook it up to just to check if the picture is better on there. If it is, then the video card in my PowerMac is the problem. One thing I did notice is, my PowerMac G4 is a Sawtooth with AGP graphics but it has a PCI ATI Rage 128 installed (which looks like it is from a BW G3 or Yikes G4). That shouldn't make it fuzzy, merely less than optimal video performance. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Gmail Question
On Oct 7, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Oct 6, 2008, at 5:54 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: Hmmm, Iam logged into mail.google.com I gave up on Apple's mail client when you had to pay to use it (I assume this is right) He was talking about the Mail application in OS X which you do not have to pay to use (at least beyond buying OS X in the first place), not the .Mac mail -- Bruce Johnson What Bruce said. I use the mail client included with OS X to check my Gmail account. I've had no problems at all. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrading a DA 533
On Oct 5, 2008, at 8:43 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: On Oct 5, 2008, at 4:55 PM, Doug Burton wrote: On Oct 4, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: SNIP The next upgrade I would get as soon as possible is a core image video card like the 9600. An upgraded video card will really make the interface snappy. Len I never really paid much attention to what video card was in the DA's that I bought. Turns out they are both Rage 128 Pro's! I'm currently watching a couple of Radeon 9000 Mac editions on Ebay, so while not quite at the 9600 level, it will still be a bit improvement. If you check on the swap list, you may be able to get a modified 9600 from a G5 for around $50. The mod is pretty easy, you just have to disable 2 pins (3 and 11 I am pretty sure). You can either tape over the pins (reversible) or cut the trace (irreversible). I have one of each and they both work fine. Just be aware that not all 9600s from G5s will work in a Da or newer Mac when modified like this. My research says that about 80% will work in a DA or newer, about 10% need the extra voltage that a MDD provides and will not work in a QS or DA and 10% will not work in any 4x AGP slot. Len with a 128MB 9600XT in my home beast and a 64MB 9600 in my work Mac. Too late, I bought this on Ebay just a short time ago. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:ITitem=280272968798 As I said before, at least it will be a big improvement over the Rage 128 Pro. I may keep looking around for a 9600. Thanks Len. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrading a DA 533
On Oct 4, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: On Oct 4, 2008, at 7:06 AM, Doug Burton wrote: I just ordered a processor upgrade from OWC http:// eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Technology/MAXG47S1600/ and 2-512 Mb sticks of iRam from NewEgg for the extra DA I have sitting here in my room. I've never upgraded a processor like this before, is it pretty easy to do? I've done the ones in a BW and beige machines but this will be my first DA. I plan to use this as my main computer and I'm basically taking everything out of my previous main system, the G4 500 Mhz upgraded BW. I will be using the combo DVD/CDRW and 80 GB HD and adding a 120 Gb HD for data. I presently have 10.3.9 on the HD and I understand I can run Leopard with the processor upgrade, are there any special tricks that need to be done before this will work? Any advice appreciated. The processor is slightly harder to replace than in a beige G3, but not much. To remove the current one, you take 2 clips off to remove the heatsink, then the processor card is attached with 3 phillips screws. I am not certain about the Newer card, but the screws that hold the heat sink to the processor card can be a little difficult for the fumble fingered on some cards. My fingers are pretty good, but the eyes that guide them can be a little fumbled from time to time 8^) While you have the case open, it would be a good time to blow all the dust bunnies out of the fans and case and check the fans for proper operation. You should be fine with 2 HD and a single 1.6GHz processor. I have a dual 1.2GHz and 4 HD in my home DA and I would get frequent hard system freezes that would only be recoverable from by a hard restart with the power button. After futzing around trying to diagnose it, I left the case open and lo and behold, no more crashes. Therefore: overheating issues in my DA. This one is pretty clean, I've been using it to substitute parts while troubleshooting my server DA and everything has been removed and reinstalled. I would use the faster hard drive for the boot volume if possible, but the difference between an 80 and 120 is likely pretty small. No hacks needed to run Leopard, it will see a faster than 867MHz processor and install away. Just be aware that with Leopard, you lose the ability to run any classic apps (but you can still boot into 9 if needed). The next upgrade I would get as soon as possible is a core image video card like the 9600. An upgraded video card will really make the interface snappy. Len Good info Len, thanks much. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DA file server is toast!
On Sep 20, 2008, at 9:09 PM, Doug Burton wrote: On Sep 20, 2008, at 3:06 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 19, 2008, at 3:10 PM, Doug Burton wrote: Reference this Bruce, I have a couple of these USB/IDE cables and I've yet to get one working on a Mac, or even my Hackintosh for that matter. Haven't tried them with Windows yet. That's weird, I use the one we have all the time...it's an invaluable tool in our office. Coupled with the oprn source NTFS drivers I've been able to rescue data from NTFS drives Windows couldn't mount. -- Bruce Johnson In all fairness, the only ones I tried were the 40 Gb original HD from the DA, which I know was corrupted and another HD I had laying around. I never really tried a known good drive so that may have been the problem. I do know the drive I have in one of my external cases is USB and it works fine with my Macs. The kit from Geeks is basically the same thing so it should work. I'm happy to report that the Geeks USB/ATA cable was successfully used to repair the original 40 Gb drive from the server. I put an extra HD tray I had laying around in a spare 5.25 external case I bought some time ago from Surplus Computer. The case has it's own PS and I used that plus the Geeks USB cable to connect to the USB port of my MDD. I put the 40 Gb drive in the tray and plugged that in. Fired up Disk Warrior and rebuilt the directory. Turns out the bad RAM must of corrupted the HD directory. The server is once again running with 512 Mb of RAM thanks to some new iData RAM from NewEgg. The 4-300 Gb SATA data drives have been mounted in an external case with it's own PS and fan, so things should stay much cooler in the DA case. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DA file server is toast!
On Sep 20, 2008, at 3:06 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 19, 2008, at 3:10 PM, Doug Burton wrote: Reference this Bruce, I have a couple of these USB/IDE cables and I've yet to get one working on a Mac, or even my Hackintosh for that matter. Haven't tried them with Windows yet. That's weird, I use the one we have all the time...it's an invaluable tool in our office. Coupled with the oprn source NTFS drivers I've been able to rescue data from NTFS drives Windows couldn't mount. -- Bruce Johnson In all fairness, the only ones I tried were the 40 Gb original HD from the DA, which I know was corrupted and another HD I had laying around. I never really tried a known good drive so that may have been the problem. I do know the drive I have in one of my external cases is USB and it works fine with my Macs. The kit from Geeks is basically the same thing so it should work. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DA file server is toast!
On Sep 19, 2008, at 5:41 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 18, 2008, at 2:16 PM, Doug Burton wrote: I had just recently replaced the OS drive with one from an identical DA because the original drive went south. Now another drive? I thinking a bad on board IDE controller or RAM, anyone else have an opinion? Check out the RAM...this is a common cause of this issue. -- Bruce Johnson Okay, originally I had two sticks of 256M RAM installed. Removing one and attempting to boot I get a bong, but then no video. HD's don't sound like they are coming up. Taking out that stick and putting the other one in I get a bong and then it tries to boot with gray screen, etc. but then the HD's all power down and the machine shut off. Does this mean both sticks are bad or is it just that the HD got corrupted by the bad stick of RAM and needs to be replaced? I have another HD I can use to try it. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DA file server is toast!
On Sep 19, 2008, at 11:30 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 19, 2008, at 12:15 PM, Doug Burton wrote: Okay, originally I had two sticks of 256M RAM installed. Removing one and attempting to boot I get a bong, but then no video. HD's don't sound like they are coming up. Taking out that stick and putting the other one in I get a bong and then it tries to boot with gray screen, etc. but then the HD's all power down and the machine shut off. Does this mean both sticks are bad or is it just that the HD got corrupted by the bad stick of RAM and needs to be replaced? I have another HD I can use to try it. NOpe neither. You either have a failing PS or a dead/dying logic board. I don't think DA's are susceptible to weirdness with PRAM batteries, and in any case that wouldn't affect the system once it's booted up. Would have to say no to logic board as I swapped it with my other identical DA. Yank the drive and check it out on a known working Mac with something like this http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=ADA-2012cat=CBL they also sell one that does SATA too for about $13. If it was just a corrupted drive, you would either hang at the boot somewhere or get a flashing folder. Powering down is a sign that the power supply is shutting itself down. It will do that if it's damaged and is thermally shutting down or if something plugged into it is drawing too much power. (generally a short somewhere in the system) -- Bruce Johnson As a file server, this DA is running 4-300 Gb SATA drives plus the 40 Gb ATA OS drive. I'm leaning towards the PS myself. Also this machine was subject to a recent power outage due to high winds here in the midwest, but it was on a UPS which allows for a safe shutdown when the power remaining is down to 25%. I will attempt to boot without the 4 server drives hooked up to power and see what I get. Thanks for your insight Bruce. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DA file server is toast!
On Sep 20, 2008, at 12:04 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 19, 2008, at 12:56 PM, Doug Burton wrote: As a file server, this DA is running 4-300 Gb SATA drives plus the 40 Gb ATA OS drive. I'm leaning towards the PS myself. Oh yeah, that really points to the PS. That many drives will also generate a lot of heat, and the DA case just wasn't built to be a file server, you need more robust cooling for something like that. Tried without the server drives hooked up and got the same results, the system just shut itself down. I have the PS from the other DA which I will try. I have an external case with it's own PS which will accommodate 2 drives and I will look for another to house the other 2 drives before I hook those back up if swapping the PS does the trick. There's a reason our server room sounds like a wind tunnel. I just spent a total of about an hour in there today and my ears are still ringing. -- Bruce Johnson I can imagine. I would love to have the money to buy a rack and have a true server system. I love the convenience and security of a server and can't see ever not having one again! Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DA file server is toast!
On Sep 19, 2008, at 8:39 PM, Doug Burton wrote: On Sep 20, 2008, at 12:04 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 19, 2008, at 12:56 PM, Doug Burton wrote: As a file server, this DA is running 4-300 Gb SATA drives plus the 40 Gb ATA OS drive. I'm leaning towards the PS myself. Oh yeah, that really points to the PS. That many drives will also generate a lot of heat, and the DA case just wasn't built to be a file server, you need more robust cooling for something like that. Tried without the server drives hooked up and got the same results, the system just shut itself down. I have the PS from the other DA which I will try. I have an external case with it's own PS which will accommodate 2 drives and I will look for another to house the other 2 drives before I hook those back up if swapping the PS does the trick. There's a reason our server room sounds like a wind tunnel. I just spent a total of about an hour in there today and my ears are still ringing. -- Bruce Johnson I can imagine. I would love to have the money to buy a rack and have a true server system. I love the convenience and security of a server and can't see ever not having one again! So much for that theory, does the exact same thing with the swapped PS. Whatever the problem is, I'm sure the drive is corrupted. I haven't actually took it out and tried it in another computer, but the original HD in this system was in fact corrupted. I swapped the drive from the other DA into this one and got it going that way. Now that drive is no longer booting and is shutting down the system. Something very strange going on here! Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DA file server is toast!
On Sep 20, 2008, at 12:59 AM, PeterH wrote: On Sep 19, 2008, at 5:04 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Oh yeah, that really points to the PS. That many drives will also generate a lot of heat, and the DA case just wasn't built to be a file server, you need more robust cooling for something like that. The DA case was built for four (4) 9 GB SCSI drives plus one (1) ATA CD/DVD drive plus one (1) Zip drive. Any combo of drives which equals but does not exceed that heat load should be OK. This system performed well for a year or so before I switched the 4 ATA drives to SATA drives and added a SATA controller. I figured the less cable clutter would be better for cooling. Since then it performed well for about 6 months before this latest spat of trouble popped up. So far I have switched the logic board and CPU and the original OS HD and now the PS. I also removed one stick of RAM (256Mb) that didn't appear to work. One more thing I neglected to mention, attempts to zap the PRAM have failed. Pressing the command- option-P-R on boot does not cause the system to restart and bong again. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DA file server is toast!
On Sep 19, 2008, at 9:07 PM, Doug Burton wrote: On Sep 19, 2008, at 8:39 PM, Doug Burton wrote: On Sep 20, 2008, at 12:04 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 19, 2008, at 12:56 PM, Doug Burton wrote: As a file server, this DA is running 4-300 Gb SATA drives plus the 40 Gb ATA OS drive. I'm leaning towards the PS myself. Oh yeah, that really points to the PS. That many drives will also generate a lot of heat, and the DA case just wasn't built to be a file server, you need more robust cooling for something like that. Tried without the server drives hooked up and got the same results, the system just shut itself down. I have the PS from the other DA which I will try. I have an external case with it's own PS which will accommodate 2 drives and I will look for another to house the other 2 drives before I hook those back up if swapping the PS does the trick. There's a reason our server room sounds like a wind tunnel. I just spent a total of about an hour in there today and my ears are still ringing. -- Bruce Johnson I can imagine. I would love to have the money to buy a rack and have a true server system. I love the convenience and security of a server and can't see ever not having one again! So much for that theory, does the exact same thing with the swapped PS. Whatever the problem is, I'm sure the drive is corrupted. I haven't actually took it out and tried it in another computer, but the original HD in this system was in fact corrupted. I swapped the drive from the other DA into this one and got it going that way. Now that drive is no longer booting and is shutting down the system. Something very strange going on here! Just to confirm I booted with the Tiger install CD using the original PS and just the OS HD hooked up to power. The system booted fine. Ran Disk Utility and tried to verify and repair the OS HD. Both operations failed so the drive is definitely corrupted. Now the question begs to be asked, what would corrupt 2 different HD's using 2 different logic boards? The system failed to boot with one of the RAM sticks in place so I'm sure it's bad. So how could a bad RAM stick corrupt the HD? So many questions, so little answers... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DA file server is toast!
On Sep 19, 2008, at 9:54 PM, Doug Burton wrote: On Sep 19, 2008, at 9:07 PM, Doug Burton wrote: On Sep 19, 2008, at 8:39 PM, Doug Burton wrote: On Sep 20, 2008, at 12:04 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 19, 2008, at 12:56 PM, Doug Burton wrote: As a file server, this DA is running 4-300 Gb SATA drives plus the 40 Gb ATA OS drive. I'm leaning towards the PS myself. Oh yeah, that really points to the PS. That many drives will also generate a lot of heat, and the DA case just wasn't built to be a file server, you need more robust cooling for something like that. Tried without the server drives hooked up and got the same results, the system just shut itself down. I have the PS from the other DA which I will try. I have an external case with it's own PS which will accommodate 2 drives and I will look for another to house the other 2 drives before I hook those back up if swapping the PS does the trick. There's a reason our server room sounds like a wind tunnel. I just spent a total of about an hour in there today and my ears are still ringing. -- Bruce Johnson I can imagine. I would love to have the money to buy a rack and have a true server system. I love the convenience and security of a server and can't see ever not having one again! So much for that theory, does the exact same thing with the swapped PS. Whatever the problem is, I'm sure the drive is corrupted. I haven't actually took it out and tried it in another computer, but the original HD in this system was in fact corrupted. I swapped the drive from the other DA into this one and got it going that way. Now that drive is no longer booting and is shutting down the system. Something very strange going on here! Just to confirm I booted with the Tiger install CD using the original PS and just the OS HD hooked up to power. The system booted fine. Ran Disk Utility and tried to verify and repair the OS HD. Both operations failed so the drive is definitely corrupted. Now the question begs to be asked, what would corrupt 2 different HD's using 2 different logic boards? The system failed to boot with one of the RAM sticks in place so I'm sure it's bad. So how could a bad RAM stick corrupt the HD? So many questions, so little answers... Decided to reformat the HD and try installing the OS again. The drive reformatted just fine and I have reinstalled Tiger once more. The plan is to let the machine run as is for a few days to be sure there are no problems. If everything goes okay I will buy some more RAM and try adding the server drives back into the mix. On Wintel computers I found a program called Burnin, which was very excellent for testing the system components in an endless loop to make sure they were going to last. Anyone know of a similar program for Macs? Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
DA file server is toast!
Okay, this is getting bad. For a third time now my DA appears to have corrupted the OS drive. When I got home from a meeting I went to check the mail and found Chicken of the VNC could not connect to my DA. Went back to the computer room and turned on the monitor I have there just for times like these. Saw the mail app on screen with black lines with white text saying some kind of exception occurred. I shut down the system and tried to reboot. Got the bong, then the gray screen with the apple logo and spinning gear, but before it switched to the blue screen I heard a HD spinning down and then the system just shuts off. I had just recently replaced the OS drive with one from an identical DA because the original drive went south. Now another drive? I thinking a bad on board IDE controller or RAM, anyone else have an opinion? Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Acronym Clarification
On Sep 13, 2008, at 9:41 AM, Lyle Syverson wrote: In another thread, JWinter[EMAIL PROTECTED] recently wrote, in part: BTDT. HTTS. Sounds like you've been given good advice. What does HTTS stand for? Searching for HTTS at http://www.acronymfinder.com/ gives this result: What does HTTS stand for? Your abbreviation search returned 0 meanings Lyle Syverson He left out the P. It's https. The S is for secure. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Artwork missing in iTunes 8.0
Does someone at Apple get their jollies from screwing around with iTunes? I worked long and hard to get all of the album artwork for my collection and now that I've upgraded to 8.0, half of it's missing! All of this for genius? Yeah, real genius losing my artwork, way to go Apple. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Artwork missing in iTunes 8.0
On Sep 13, 2008, at 2:52 PM, insightinmind wrote: On Sep 13, 2008, at 1:49 PM, Doug Burton wrote: Does someone at Apple get their jollies from screwing around with iTunes? I worked long and hard to get all of the album artwork for my collection and now that I've upgraded to 8.0, half of it's missing! All of this for genius? Yeah, real genius losing my artwork, way to go Apple. I haven't been privileged to the genius of iTunes 8 (I've ordered Tiger for my PowerMac 8500/9500, and I haven't touched my Leopardized Quicksilver 2002 yet) ... but is all your artwork coming from the iTunes Store? When it searches to Get Album Artwork ... would it replace that which is already there? Just curious ... Part of it came from wherever iTunes gets the artwork from when it searches, but a lot of it was missing, so I took the time, a lot of time, to make sure each song had the proper artwork. I have about 4500 tunes in my personal library and needless to say was a bit ticked when a lot of it was missing. I am happy to report that some of it has come back as the songs play (I use party shuffle when I listen), but some hasn't returned. I have been watching for missing artwork as the songs appear in the display and for the missing ones I have been going into the library and pulling up that album. Usually by clicking on info for the first song in the album, the artwork will then reappear, but that hasn't worked for every one that is missing and I suppose I will just have to find a good image on the web yet again to fix them. In 7.7.1, some aiff files would accept iTunes Artwork, some not. And I had to allow copying of those aiffs to the iTunes Library folder, before it would accept artwork from any source. Guess going from 7.7.1 to 8 offers more surprises ... Bill Connelly Now I'm curious as to why your collection is in the form of aiff? Being a musician is your ear that good to hear the difference between aiff and 192 bit MP3? I would think a decent sized collection would take some serious HD space using that format. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Artwork missing in iTunes 8.0
On Sep 13, 2008, at 3:38 PM, insightinmind wrote: On Sep 13, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Doug Burton wrote: Now I'm curious as to why your collection is in the form of aiff? Being a musician is your ear that good to hear the difference between aiff and 192 bit MP3? I would think a decent sized collection would take some serious HD space using that format. I'm working on making my collection decent ... mostly Jazz ... that's why I don't want to copy it into the iTunes Library area ... just leave it where I initially put it ... some accept Album Artwork ... and some do not (7.7.1 ???) This puzzles me a bit. What exactly do you mean by the iTunes Library area? Just putting it in your library doesn't mean you have to move the actual files. Under preferencesadvanced just uncheck the box which directs iTunes to copy files added to the library to the music folder. This is always the first thing I do on any new OS install. My files reside on my file server back in another room so naturally I don't want them moved either. Yes ... I'm able to hear the difference ... I usually encode at 256 bit mp3, too ... mainly because I just don't want to miss anything ... and I walk my dog using over the ear headphones ... yes, a bit geeky looking ... I'm going for sound, not sight ... Not geeky to me, I hate those earbuds! They won't stay in and the sound is not that good either. I only use the over the ears type also. I also believe there are sounds that we humanoids cannot hear ... that may possibly push around those we can hear ... so affect what we do hear ... Well ... something like that ... Bill Connelly Also agree on this, but so far my ears have not been able to tell the difference between an MP3 encoded at 192 bits and the real thing. Now I can definitely hear a difference at 128 and 160 sometimes, but never been able to at 192. I use a Sansa e280 mp3 player at work, upgraded to 16 gb, and in order to accommodate my entire collection, I found it necessary to re- encode to music into 96 bit wma files. The sound is good enough to drown out the constant chattering of the women to work near me. Sorry ladies, nothing personal, even the other women who work there complain about these two! Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Artwork missing in iTunes 8.0
On Sep 13, 2008, at 8:00 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Sep 13, 2008, at 6:47 PM, Doug Burton wrote: Oops, forgot to RTFM! Perhaps it will work better when I do what the instructions say to do. Yes. Another thing. It only does the specific playlist and selection, so to do your entire music collection you need to be in your Music and then select all and only THEN run the iTunes Art-less script. I'm happy to report that all my iTunes artwork is now back in place. Ended up only having to download a couple of images. Just had to click the next button about a million times and click on get info when an image was missing. This got most of them back, but sometimes I had to play around with show in finder and then click on play in iTunes. Now the random song switch has returned. Song will be playing fine and then all of a sudden in the middle of the song it will switch to the next song. I give up, Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Database report writing program
On Sep 5, 2008, at 3:51 AM, Ted Treen wrote: On Sep 4, 2008, at 5:01 PM, Doug Burton wrote: I'm looking for database or spreadsheet software with very good report writing capabilities. I need to be able to print a strip of address labels for my mail case (I'm a rural mail carrier). I presently use a word processor, but making changes is very difficult when I need to insert a new address into the mix. A database program would be ideal if I could use the report writing function to create the labels. I use the 8.5x11 solid white label sheets and then cut the strips and affix them to the case. The post office is supposed to provide labels for our cases, but they can't get them to print the way I need them either! If anyone has a suggestion I'll be happy to hear it. Try Filemaker's Home product - Bento. I can't say if it will do what you want, but it's very cheap (comparitively) and, I believe, try-before-you-buy See it HERE Good luck, Ted Thanks for the tip Ted, I'm currently waiting for the email which has the link to the private download site for Bento. You are correct, it is reasonably priced and might be just what I'm looking for. I'll give the trial a shot, but may end up buying it anyway if I like it for other things if it doesn't work out for this particular purpose. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Database report writing program
I'm looking for database or spreadsheet software with very good report writing capabilities. I need to be able to print a strip of address labels for my mail case (I'm a rural mail carrier). I presently use a word processor, but making changes is very difficult when I need to insert a new address into the mix. A database program would be ideal if I could use the report writing function to create the labels. I use the 8.5x11 solid white label sheets and then cut the strips and affix them to the case. The post office is supposed to provide labels for our cases, but they can't get them to print the way I need them either! If anyone has a suggestion I'll be happy to hear it. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Database report writing program
On Sep 4, 2008, at 8:13 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 4, 2008, at 5:01 PM, Doug Burton wrote: I'm looking for database or spreadsheet software with very good report writing capabilities. I need to be able to print a strip of address labels for my mail case (I'm a rural mail carrier). I presently use a word processor, but making changes is very difficult when I need to insert a new address into the mix. A database program would be ideal if I could use the report writing function to create the labels. I use the 8.5x11 solid white label sheets and then cut the strips and affix them to the case. The post office is supposed to provide labels for our cases, but they can't get them to print the way I need them either! If anyone has a suggestion I'll be happy to hear it. AppleWorks does this, as does MS Office or NeoOffice. All have mailing label templates built in, and you can define custom labels. NeoOffice http://www.neooffice.org is free. OS X only, though -- Bruce Johnson I have all those programs, but only use them for word processing. I'm currently using NeoOffice in word processing mode to create the labels. How hard is it to create a template that can be used to merge the data? I need to be able to insert addresses into the current status quo, would it be easier to use Excel or Appleworks database for this function? That's my problem using just a word processor, if I insert a new address I have to completely alter everything that comes after the new address! Thanks Bruce Adrian, I looked at version tracker and have found a few interesting programs there. Trouble is, without access to them I don't really know if they will do what I need. Thanks for the suggestion. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
