Re: Kinda OT but hoping someone here knows...
The first two generations of iPod were Firewire only (both charge and sync). The 3rd generation iPod added the ability to sync over USB, but still needed FW to charge. This was the first version of the iPod to sport the 30-pin connector. The 4th and 5th along with the iPod Mini could charge and sync from either FW or USB. I'm not sure about the first couple of generations of the Nano. Subsequent iPods removed FW support. FYI, a FW charger is a great thing to have if you are ever trying to revive an older iPod which has sat for a *really* long time and has a totally flat battery. On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 9:38 PM Stan Earl wrote: > The original iPod had FW at the power block and FW on the top of the unit. > The iPod mini had FW at the power block and 30 pin at the base of the unit. > It will charge the next generation slim small iPod and should charge others > with the 30 pin connector. My iPad 3 says "This accessory may not be > supported", and does not show charging. > Hope this helps... > > > On Jun 18, 2018, at 8:11 PM, Bruce Johnson > wrote: > > > > Hit a yard sale yesterday, and saw what I thought was a charger for an > iPad, in a box with a whole bunch of random hardware (of the nuts and bolts > and odd mechanical bits type) was told “$10 but you have to take that whole > box” > > > > So I brought the box home, found a couple of tools, a variety of useful > bits and the charger, which turned out turned out to be for an original > iPod, since it has a FW port. It has a 30-pin cable. Is it the same as the > 30-pin one used in more recent devices? > > > > > > -- > > Bruce Johnson > > University of Arizona > > College of Pharmacy > > Information Technology Group > > > > Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs > > > > > > -- > > -- > > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group > for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on > Power Macs. > > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list > > > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "G-Group" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for > those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "G-Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Virtual Intel Mac for G multiprocessors
It's still a pretty tough order. VirtualPC has been out of production since the Tiger era (it is technically not fully compatible with Leopard). Moreover, it presents a fairly simple hardware model which is mainly designed to satisfy Microsoft OSs. As a result, it is highly likely that it does not even represent the minimum requirements for a Hackintosh. JR On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Anand staranand.keathle...@gmail.comwrote: I'd say it is better than no solution at all, which is where we are at the moment. I am not concerned about speed as long as it works. We've all gotten use to things being almost instant. Too bad. On Saturday, June 23, 2012 12:14:49 PM UTC-7, Cameron Kaiser wrote: I know that it is generally said that a G anything cannot run Snow Leopard. However, I run Virtual PC on my iBook G4 so I know that a program can be created to emulate an Intel Mac, and it would probably work best if the PPC Mac had at least two processors. So, what work has been done on this and how can we help? I expect many of you are pretty tired of hearing it can't be done. I'm tired of Apple leaving us behind. Time we did something about it. So, who do we need to talk to to get this rolling? Peace. Considering how poky Rosetta was on the first generation Intel Macs -- and that was without having to emulate the rest of the operating system -- I can't imagine that emulating an Intel Mac to a useful level would be anything short of glacial even on a high end G5. I empathise, but that's just not a workable solution. -- --**-- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- BOND THEME NOW PLAYING: The World is Not Enough -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Games for G3's?
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Thomas Fritsch xiondrac...@gmail.comwrote: im a puzzle Solver/RPG type of person though i love games like Sam Max , Monekyisland and what not :3 Which brings us to the subject of installing SCUMMvm and playing the old LucasArts and Sierra classics. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Low Power G5
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Old G4 grizzledgia...@gmail.com wrote: I plan to use a 9800 XT or Pro (I have 3) and am also interested in what those draw, as I might also use a flashed RIVA TNT. Sorry if this is a silly question, but is the Riva TNT OSX-compatible or are you talking about wanting a system what will run under Mac OS 9.2? JR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Cube
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Kyle Hansen pi...@speakeasy.net wrote: Really? I have 22 of them here collecting dust. Really? What would it take to get them into the hands of enthusiasts? --waves hands JR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Beige G3 RAM
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 5:27 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: It does not matter whether the sticks are single- or double-sided. It DOES matter that the sticks are all low-density. 256 MB sticks which are high-density will report themselves as 128 MB. I suppose there are also pathological cases where 128 MB sticks which are high-density will report themselves as 64 MB. Any idea if the pathological case includes 512mb showing up as 256? I have a couple of those from an old Dell that I'd love to put to some use. JR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Is there a limit on number of ATA buses
I have a dual 1.0 MDD. Until recently, I was running a drive with Leopard (SATA with ATA bridge) ont the fast bus and an older ATA drive with Tiger on the slower bus. I recently installed a generic Sil3112 1+1 card that I had flashed with Mac firmware from Weibe and moved the Leopard drive over to it. Everything seems to work fine with one exception: If I boot the Tiger drive, I can see the Leopard drive on the desktop. If I boot from the Leopard drive on the SATA controller, however, the OS boots fine but the Tiger drive is nowhere to be found. According to the 10.5 system System Profiler, the Sata card is actually an ATA bus, only three are visible, and the Tiger drive is not seen. Thoughts? It seems like something is limited to three ATA busses and the SATA card ends up overriding one of them. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 + Tiger: iTune 9?
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.netwrote: Hi! I’ve upgraded my G3 BW software installation using a G4/G5 – (I’ve put the HDD from the G3 temporarily into a G4 and a G5 for updating its installation). On the G3 I had iTunes 9.0.3 running okay, even though it’s not officially supported. Now, I thought, I'd update it to 9.2.1 (latest 9) only to see it’s now telling me: “G4 or G5 processor required.” Since iTunes 9 is still compiled for Tiger, it will (like 9.0.3) normally only be optimized for G4 i.e. AltiVec, but run nicely without it (it just won’t use AltiVec then, meaning it will run non-optimized, but it will run). Apparently Apple decided to not allow this. So, here my question: Will iTunes 9.1.1 run on a G3? I think so, but it is definately the last version to work, even unofficially. If so, will it be possible to “downdate” iTunes? (What’s the opposite of “update”?) I’ve got the offline installation dmgs for 9.1.1 and, should it be neccessary, 9.0.3 available. My recollection is that all I had to do was drag iTunes to the trash. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Don't Landfill old Mac's
Any possibility of sharing some details of your alternative use? I think I speak for a lot of people who would be interested in hearing how to get continued mileage out of our PPC systems and/or help our own local communities. Perhaps we can all share ideas. One thing I'm also a bit curious about. You mention only wanting the last iteration of the PowerBook G4 as well as late versions of the eMac with no mention of the G4 iMac and a willingness to take pretty much any PowerMac G4 (500mhz and above pretty much only excludes the Yikes! and the early Sawtooth models). What gives with that? Are you sitting on a pile of CPU upgrades for AGP G4's? Genuinely curious... JR On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 8:22 PM, David W. Morris bbh...@gmail.com wrote: Happy New Year all G-List members. I know that almost all of you would never throw away a good working G4 Mac, as we on this list know that they are still very useful computers. For those here that might be having trouble thinking of what to do with any of the Mac models listed below, if you can't find anyone who is interested in giving them a good home, please contact me and I will find someone who will really appreciate them and put them to good use. The models that meet the requirements of this alternative use are as follows: All G4 MacMini models Any 1.25GHz 1.42GHz G4 eMac models All G4 PowerMac models which came from Apple with a 500MHz G4 or faster (single or dual G4 CPU's included) All 1.67GHz G4 PowerBooks Granted most of the above models are too good to just give away, but sadly many computer users who can't find an easy way to sell, or give away an old computer that they no longer are using are putting them in the trash, or sending them to recycle centers. My alternative is better, so please contact me if you want to get rid of any of the above models and I will see that they get donated to the right people who would love to use them still. I make no money on this and it usually costs me up to a couple of hundred dollars a quarter, or more, to help these people out. Thanks for reading, David -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Don't Landfill old Mac's
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 10:19 AM, David W. Morris bbh...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure I can share the alternative use here on this list, as it involves running an alternative OS, not an Apple MacOS. Since I am relatively new here and have already made a few mistakes in posting messages, I am trying to be careful not to violate any more rules and risk getting kicked off the list. If you wish to find out more, and if anyone else wishes the same, all of you are encouraged to contact me Off List using my private email address. Okay, I'll bite... question to the list nannies: Are discussions of alternative Operating Systems allowed or is there a better alternative list? JR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 10.4 or 10.5 for a G4
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Neal wnle...@southwind.net wrote: I need to go to 10.4 or 10.5 on the G4 I am using. It runs at 350 MHz and has 1 Gb of SDRAM. Since 350mhz is the absolute bottom of the G4 line, I have to ask. Is this a G4 with AGP graphics (Sawtooth) or one with PCI graphics (Yikes!)? If it is has PCI graphics, then the question is academic since you would only be able to run 10.4 without serious hackery. If it has AGP graphics, then 10.5 is possible with LeopardAssist. Personally, I wouldn't touch 10.5 unless you have at least a Radeon graphics card. The Rage128 Pro that would have shipped with the system originally is not supported under 10.5 (IIRC, the drivers aren't included and would have to be loaded from a 10.4 system, anyway) and the OS really wants at least a Quartz Extreme-capable card. JR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PPC Flash Player UPDATE NEWS
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: Fortunately, there's a solution. This seems crazy, but they're saying that the current version and all previous versions that were Intel only actually work fine on PPC Macs, the problem is that Adobe's installer won't allow the installation. You need to manually move the current version of Flash Player.plugin into LibraryInternet Plug-Ins and then repair the permissions. You can trash the old version of the file, or compress it and save it as an old version. Once you manually install this and quit and relaunch your browser you'll have the latest Flash Player and no websites including Facebook will give you an error message about needing to update Flash Player. It works fine. The problem is you'd need an Intel Mac to get the current version from, or you can download it ready to install manually from here: http://www.steelbin.com/**FPforFBPPC.ziphttp://www.steelbin.com/FPforFBPPC.zip If you read the ReadMe file which comes with the referenced Zip, then you get a slightly different version of what is going on. According to the file, the Zip actually contains a copy of the last PPC-compatible version which has then been hacked to report a later version number as required for the Facebook test. I think the assumption here is that while sites may look for a later version, they really only use features from the older version. John -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Zip drive on an MDD G4
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 12:31 PM, David W. Morris bbh...@gmail.com wrote: Both Mirrored Drive Doors were replaced with the lower door having a slot for the Zip drive and being fixed in place, non-opening, plus it came with the 5.25 to 3.5 bracket to position the Zip drive in the right place to line up with the slot hole in the MDD faceplate. So, it looks like this: https://secure.flickr.com/photos/moparx/4009871698/ Thanks... John -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Zip drive on an MDD G4
I recently became the owner of a dual 1.0ghz G4 MDD. In looking at the various specs online, I see references to a Zip-250 drive as an optional item. Out of curiousity: 1) Has anyone ever actually seen an MDD with a factory Zip? 2) Does it use a special bracket/door or is it just a normal desktop Zip drive on a 5.25 frame and stuffed into the lower bay? Thanks... John -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Zip drive on an MDD G4
You don't need to, but thanks... At this point, it looks like it's just a stock Zip in the lower optical bay. Thanks... John On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Baldassare Guzzo guz...@gmail.com wrote: I have a G4 933 with a factory Zip and DVD. If you want a picture of the mounting I can send you one. To me it appears to just be mounted into the lower bay - no special door. Its a QS not a MDD so I dont know if this helps you. On Dec 2, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Wayne Stewart wrote: It was mounted internally in one of the hard drive bays. Apple didn't sell many as most people used the CD/DVD burner or opted for a USB Zip drive. On Dec 2, 8:55 am, John Ruschmeyer jrusc...@gmail.com wrote: I recently became the owner of a dual 1.0ghz G4 MDD. In looking at the various specs online, I see references to a Zip-250 drive as an optional item. Out of curiousity: 1) Has anyone ever actually seen an MDD with a factory Zip? 2) Does it use a special bracket/door or is it just a normal desktop Zip drive on a 5.25 frame and stuffed into the lower bay? Thanks... John -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-**list.shtmlhttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/**lists/netiquette.shtmlhttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/g3-5-list http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-**list.shtmlhttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/**lists/netiquette.shtmlhttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/g3-5-list http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Java 1.6
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Jesse St.John jesselorenstj...@gmail.comwrote: On Oct 31, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Oct 31, 2011, at 7:53 AM, Gottick International wrote: I thought I ask you folks instead of all the experts roaming the internet. I run x.5.8 on an quicksilver and now some programs are asking for Java 1.6 and there seem to be very conflicting views on if Java 1.6 can be found and be made to work on X.5.8. Any expert tips? Someone correct me, but I believe Java becomes Intel only at some point ... Hmmm ... How can I find out what version I have? All I see is 12.9.0 as a version for parts of Frameworks of Java ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-**list.shtmlhttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/**lists/netiquette.shtmlhttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/g3-5-list http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Someone correct me, but I believe Java becomes Intel only at some point ... yeah it does, not right considering they for years talked of it as though it was completely platform independent, it happened recently. I ran in to this same problem recently wanting the latest and greatest on my ppc mac derp apparently not. IIRC, Apple required a minimum of 10.5.x and a 64-bit system for Java 6. This meant that the G5 was the only PPC to get Java 6. I believe that there is/was some community attempt to port Java 6 based on OpenJDK to Mac OS X. See http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/code/macosx/ John -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Quieter fans for a Quicksilver G4?
Something worth checking... On some of the G4's, the power supply fan has a guard that is part of the PS casing. However, there is also a guard molded into the back panel of the tower. Supposedly, things get quieter if you remove one or the other; prefereably the metal one in the PS casing. John On 8/30/11 3:56 AM, Tanner M moosey...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, all: I've got a 867 G4 QS that I use as an OS9 machine and use it daily. It's noise from the fans has sort of gotten to me. Are there any solutions or fans recommended to quiet it down a little bit? How can I determine which fan is the loudest? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Network burning?
On 4/16/11 1:49 PM, PETER WARNER pe...@petermwarner.com wrote: Hey All, I would like to burn something with Toast onto a Dual Layer DVD. I have Toast on my Dual 450 Gig Ethernet, and I have a Dual Layer capable Super Drive in my Lombard... As far as I know there is no way on earth to get a Lombard into Target disk mode, even though I have Firewire PC card. I tried to install Toast 9 on the Lombard, and that does not work either. A Lombard can go into TDM, but it will be SCSI TDM not Firewire. John -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
RE: Fink
From: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:g3-5-l...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Juran Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 1:17 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Fink I tried Fink on my first OS X installation (Panther). Since Fink has a much smaller set of package maintainers than Debian, the available versions tend to lag behind. These days, when I want to use a Unix program on OS X, I download the source code and build it myself. Out of curiousity, have you ever tried the NetBSD pkgsrc system? It's a cross-platform package system, similar to MacPorts (both derive from the FreeBSD ports system originally). I've used it with Tiger and Panther for ports which did not exist in Fink or MacPorts. John -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Sawtooth problem
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Powermac teozen...@gmail.com wrote: I snagged a G4-400 Sawtooth in the hopes of upgrading it to a dual G4-500. Unfortunatly I didn't know you need a Uni-n rev 7 or higher for the setup to work (the machine boots into OS 9.2.2 fine and System profiler shows 2 x 500 CPUs with cache, but OSX installs kernal panic on booting from the OS disk). So what would be my options other then sticking the single G4-400 back into the system? Are sawtooth motherboards with rev 7 chip common and cheap? Will a newer motherboard (GiGE?) fit and work with the old PS? I feel your pain as I am in the same situation with my Sawtooth. There are supposedly two versions of the Sawtooth motherboard 820-1093-A (v1) and 820-1094-A (v2). I've been meaning to check and see if mine is the v1 and, if so, try and find a cheap v2 board. Changing motherboards completely will probably mean a different PS (to provide the ADC's 28 volts) and a different back panel (rearranged ports). I'd say that unless the v1-v2 swap works, then your best bet is a fast single. John -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Differences between single and dual G4 Quicksilvers
On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 19:11 +0200, Mac User #330250 wrote: -- Original message -- Subject: Re: Differences between single and dual G4 Quicksilvers Date:Samstag 16 Oktober 2010N From:Peter Haas peterh...@cruzio.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com I always thought that the dual processor support came with UniNorth chip revision 7. I implied that the Uni-N chip is therefor responsible for the dual processor function. I'm not sure if 7 is required for dual processor, period, or for reliable dual processor under Mac OS X. Either way, you want 7 or newer. BTW I have two Power Mac G4 AGP 400 MHz that have Uni-N revision 7 and I successfully ran Dual-450 MHz processors from a G4 GE in them. I couldn't find out if every G4 AGP has Uni-N revision 7 or if I was just lucky to get the right ones. You were somewhat lucky. I have a G4 AGP/400 which only has Uni-N revision 3. I *think* I need to upgrade to a Sawtooth rev. 2 motherboard in order to get the newer Uni-N. John -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Over clocking G4
400mhz can also be a Sawtooth (AGP, non-gigabit) model. Don't know about gigabit. On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Illirik Smirnov illir...@gmail.com wrote: 400MHz would be a Yikes! model. PCI GFX, AGP GFX, or Gigabit Ethernet is unknown. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Need help with a disk problem
I have a PowerBook G3 (Pismo, 500mhz, 1GB RAM) which has been running under 10.4 for some time. Recently, though, I've noticed some disk-related problems which I could use some help with. The first problem appeared during an update for Office 2004. Like most installers, it popped up a dialog that it would be running a program to detect a suitable installation disk. When it came to that point in the install, however, do disks were shown, greyed out or otherwise. I have attempted to repeat this installation, even going so far as to download a new copy of the update, with the same issue. The next problem came when running Apple's Software Update. Basically, the progress bar gets to about 25% and stops updating. I've allowed this to run for hours with no further progress. Finally, in an attempt at resolving the first two problems, I ran the Onyx utility. Onyx hangs, however, while determining the SMART status of the drive. In order to fix the problem, I've tried the typically recommended fix of booting from the Tiger Install DVD, running Disk Utility and doing a Repair Permissions. Although a lot of permissions were fixed, the problems persisted with the next reboot. Interesting, it may be my imagination, but it seemed to take Disk Utility a long time to identify my disk. At this point, I'm starting to lean toward a failing hard disk (40 GB Hitachi TravelStar), but I was wondering if anyone had any other advice or, at least, pointers to an error log I could check (dmesg shows nothing useful). Thanks. John -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list image001.gif
RE: Gigabit G4 Tower + Leopard = Not working?
From: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:g3-5-l...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Carmonne Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 8:16 AM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Gigabit G4 Tower + Leopard = Not working? On Aug 18, 2010, at 10:29 PM, Dan Palka wrote: I tried multiple ways to get Leopard to install onto my Gigabit G4 tower, including putting it into FireWire disk mode and installing from a Mac mini G4, as well as modifying the reported clock frequency in Open Firmware and booting from the Leopard installer. Every time I'm getting the unable to find driver for powermac3,3 kernel panic. What's going on here? Any ideas? You need at least 867 MHz processor to install 10.5 on that machine. I do this by installing the system on a Fire Wire drive via a compatible machine and the using Carbon Copy Cloner to get it on the slower machine. But be aware it will be real slooow. :-) There are software tricks and tools (LeopardAssist?) to let one install 10.5 on a slower system. As for the OP, I'd take a look to make sure your Firmware is up-to-date. When I was looking to try Leopard on my Sawtooth, I saw a couple of comments which pointed in that direction. John -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
RE: weird USB - Firewire bridge
I one got something similar in a set of USB adapters. In my case, the kit came with a retractable USB A male-to-A female adapter (extension cable) and a set of various adapters to convert the extension cable into a dedicated purpose cable; this included a pair of RJ-45 ends to turn the cable into an Ethernet cable. I think there was supposed to be a complementary adapter to the one your father has in order to allow a USB extension cable to be used as a 4-pin FW400 cable. (Ironically, I think you have the mate to the one I used to have- USB female-to-mini FW400. John -Original Message- From: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:g3-5-l...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Manuel Marques Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 12:07 PM To: G-Group Subject: weird USB - Firewire bridge Hello all, I know this is not the right place for this question, but no other LEM list is, as well, so here it goes: my father bought a cheap set of USB adapters, and was surprised to find one that has a USB female plug in one end and a standard FireWire 400 port in the other. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?
And this is where the whole thing breaks down into fairy land... Here we have a host system of a PPC G4 @ 400mhz emulating a DUAL-CORE processor of a completely different architecture at approx. 4x the clock speed of the native processor. This defies all common sense whatsoever. I can maybe buy the idea of a PPC emulating an x86 at some fraction of the PPC native speed (such as a G4/400 emulating a PII/233), but we¹re talking about a 4-8x speed increase. If the G4 was really that efficient, Apple would have never had any reason to move to Intel. It would be like the old ³snail² ads only the P-III would have to be on the top of a glacier! John On 6/12/10 9:59 PM, Mark Sokolovsky coolmar...@gmail.com wrote: It's simple. I donot have 10.6.3 on the machine itself. I have it installed as a Virtual system inside an emulation program. You see, the 'flaw you considered wasn't actually a flaw. The reason why it says Mac OS X 10.6.3 and powerPC G4 @400mhz in the same window, is because i took the system info from the HOST OS, not the guest OS specs. For anyone who didn't realize that, think again and look again. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Do you need a ROM Patch for BW G3 if G4 Zif is installed?
Reducing the bus speed is only required for some of the higher speed (i.e., 800mhz) third-party upgrades. It's actually the same for G3 and G4 upgrades at those speeds. Look at something like a 1Ghz G3 upgrade for for information. Now... For a simple upgrade like swapping in a Yikes! G4 into a BW, there is no need to change bus speed. John On 5/22/10 7:05 PM, Gus gusr...@comcast.net wrote: Why did the bus Speed have to be reduced? I thought the yikes had a 100 mhz bus speed??? This is disconcerting. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: BW G3 - G4 Upgrade Revisited.
Belkin definitely made an ADB--USB adapter (I have one around here somewhere) and I'm pretty sure of at least another brand.) John On 5/23/10 3:33 AM, Mike Linnett mike.dogho...@googlemail.com wrote: I've heard mention of a USB to adb adapter too, search the list archives? I think it was called an iMate? That would allow you to keep using the old keyboard/mouse on anything with USB! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Do you need a ROM Patch for BW G3 if G4 Zif is installed?
You need a patch, even with the Zif from a Yikes! You do not need any additional software, however. The patch from any Vendor should work... Personally I prefer the NewerTech one (found it off a link from OWC's support page) which worked well for me when I did the same upgrade. John On 5/21/10 9:06 PM, Gus gusr...@comcast.net wrote: I am considering putting a G4 zif into my G3 BW. I saw on some upgrade sites that a software patch (ROM Patch) was needed. Depending on which card was installed each vendor had its own patch. If I happen to find a zif from a G4 Yikes, would I still need a rom patch? Would one from the third party sites work? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
RE: Blue and White G4?
A minor caveat on installing a G4 in a BW. Before installing the G4, you also have to install a firmware patch which removes the block on G4s. Also, based on a bad personal experience, I'd be wary of installing a G4 from a Yikes in a Rev. 1 BW. John -Original Message- From: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:g3-5-l...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PM7500 Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:36 AM To: G-Group Subject: Re: Blue and White G4? Nope. Completely different method of mounting the CPU. What might be possible is to transfer the entire guts of the G4 into the G3 case but that's about all. If any of those G3's are still working you could consider going on ebay and picking up a G4 CPU from a Yikes! as those will swap right in to a G3 motherboard and they're usually pretty cheap. You hardly see them over $20 anymore and most of the time they are under $15. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I want to get a LCD monitor for my G4
On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 06:37 -0700, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 11, 2010, at 3:41 AM, icanswing wrote: Okay I googled the ATY Rage 28 Pro and it says resolutions up to 1920 x 1440. I also found out that this was standard video card for the Sawtooth. I didn't know I had a Sawtooth until now. I have 2 connectors so how do you differentiate between ADC and DVI. Mine had 10 pins across and 3 down. ADC connectors are long rounded rectangles, DVI are rectangles. VGA are trapezoidal with three rows of connectors. If that's the standard ATI card that came with the sawtooth you have ADC and VGA on the card. No, if that's a standard Sawtooth card, it's DVI. ADC with its additional 23V power supply didn't come along until the GigE G4. John -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
RE: Uses for a Wallstreet
That is his ebay id. I've never bought any Wally bits from him, but I have bought a couple of Lombard ones... he is just about the only seller I've seen who had the Lombard HDD tray and cable. Reasonable pricing and he will discount shipping on multiple items. John -Original Message- From: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:g3-5-l...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Carmonne Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:29 AM On Mar 11, 2010, at 5:57 AM, Nestamicky wrote: On 3/10/10 5:57 PM, John Carmonne wrote: I put Tiger on one of my Wally's and use it while wathcing TV and posting here. I use Camino for a Browser and it has 512 RAM it does everything all the other kids do, except too slow for Utube. Great machine at the library when folks see Tiger alive and well on it:-)I got a 300MHz card fromvirginlamp...@aol.com This guy has everything for the Wallys and cheap. Good luck. Does he have a website you could share with the OP? He sells on ebay I think under tonyzz just e-mail to virginlamp...@aol.com and he will answer he really knows his Wally's, tell him I sent you, and no I have no monetary interest here. Just passing on some real good info. :=D Wally's rock and rule -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Problems with BW G3 after attempted G4 ugrade
Up until recently, I was happily using a BW G3 (rev 1, 400mhz) which had been upgraded with a Melco G3/500 and a flashed Radeon 7000 PCI, all running under 10.4.11. On a bit of a whim, I picked up a used Apple G4/350 CPU from ebay with the idea of installing it in the BW and trying to overclock it to 400mhz. Just before Christmas, I received the G4, installed it in the BW, and appear to have killed something on the motherboard... Before receiving the G4, I had installed the XLR8 version of the firmware block remover. The system continued to boot with the 500mhz G3, so I assumed everything was working correctly. After installing the G4 (with the original 400mhz jumper block in place), I pressed the power button and received the normal chime. After waiting more than the usual, though, I noticed that the screen never turned on. The system powered off as soon as I touched the power button, leaving me to believe that it had hung very early in the boot process. I replaced the original G3, only to have the same thing happen. Since then, I have tried a number of steps, including: - Booting with no PCI cards and only a single DIMM - Numerous CUDA resets - Apple's G4 PCI Motherboard reset procedure So far, there has been no difference except for the first boot after the motherboard reset. On this attempt, I received 3 beeps (no usable RAM banks) after a very long wait. I'm dubious, though, that the RAM has failed as it worked fine before. So far, I've found nothing useful on the web except a few instances of similar behaviour following a CPU and/or video upgrade on a BW. None have offered a solution, though, other than replacing the motherboard. At this point, I'm at a bit of a loss about what to do. My two choices seem to be either to try and grab a cheap releacement motherboard (preferably a rev2 to replace the current r1) or fall back to my old beige using either the G4 or the G3 500. All advice appreciated... John -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
RE: 1Ghz G3 upgrade?
Smurf= BW G3 (aka Yosemite) Flower= Flower-power iMac MolarMac= Beige G3 All-in-one (named for its shape) John -Original Message- From: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:g3-5-l...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Carmonne Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:36 AM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com I would like to stuff something like this in a Cube to get it up to 1.8 dual. But those are too much $$. New to the list, What is a SmurfFlower, MolarMac?? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Upgrading a Beige
On Sep 14, 2009, at 7:51 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: 'overclocking' is making a CPU go at faster than the CPU's rated speed. Putting in a CPU rated at a higher speed is, well, pretty much exactly what you just did on the BW :-) The speed jumper settings on the Beige are different steps than on the BW, so you will have to play with them a bit; you may not get 400 MHZ exactly out of it. Other World Computing used to have a good guide to setting the jumpers. Actually, on a beige, you can get exact 400mhz... it's a 6x multiplier of the 66mhz bus. John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes 9 PPC Macs
On Sep 10, 2009, at 6:23 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: I wasn't offered iTunes 9 on my G3 iBook. A quick check of System Requirements shows no G3 support. Some are saying iTunes 9 runs on the G3, but slowly. I haven't tried iTunes 9 on a G3. It appears iTunes 8.2.1 is the final G3 version. Someone needs to catalog the final versions of G3 software. Apple seems a bit confused on the issue. The website says that a G4 or better is required and points G3 users to 8.2.1. The release notes don't specifically preclude a G3, just say that at least a G4 is needed for video. That said, I installed it on my Pismo (G3/500, 1GB, 10.4.11). It runs and seems to play MP3s just fine. I haven't tried video as I already assumed the previous version was too slow. This is clearly a YMMV situation. As an aside, I noticed that 10.4.11 is the minimum OS version required and that most of the new stuff (iTunes LP, etc.) requires 10.5, so I wonder how long Apple will continue to support Tiger with new iTunes and Quicktime versions (even on a G4). John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
AGP G4 in a BW case
A question for the hardware experts. I have a rev.1 BW G3 which I am happy with, but would really like to move to a G4, preferably something later than a Yikes. I was thinking that it might be cheaper (at least on shipping) if I could somehow swap an AGP motherboard into the BW case and use the existing drives, PS, etc. Based on my reading of the web, it seems like I might be able to get away with swapping in a Sawtooth motherboard, provided I also swap the back panel. Will this work (Sawtooth in a BW case/PS)? And, if so, have any of you done it already? Thanks. John Ruschmeyer --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: same Yosemite with video troubles _ now I am trying a G4 processo?
Silly question, but did you remove the firmware block that prevents the BW G3 from using a G4? John -Original Message- From: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:g3-5-l...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Beniamino Cenci Goga Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 4:47 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: same Yosemite with video troubles _ now I am trying a G4 processo? So today I tried to install a G4 ZIF that I have never been able to use with L2 enabled. I had used this processor on a carrie ZIF into PowerMac 7600 and into a beige G3. No way to enable L2 cache (I have used all the known software). So I prepared the Yosemite, G4 firmware update, jumper setting etc... No luck the G4 does not work at all in the Yosemite. Before I conclude the L2 is bad is thee any other test to perform? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
