Re: Using SATA and IDE drives in same G4 Macintosh

[William Tomcanin]

Thanks for the replies everyone.  The Addonics converter has a
floppy-to-IDE power adapter plug included.  Now that I was able to get a
working Leopard system installed on the SSD, everything seems to be working
fine - at least for the past 36 hours  :-)

I'm still at a loss to understand why the Mac OS X 10.4 DVD Installer
recognized the drive, but the Mac OS X 10.5 Installer doesn't.

In any case, since cloning the system from my HDD to the new SSD, Leopard
is working.

Bill

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 8:03 AM, William Bowles 
wrote:

> The only thing that you might have to do is change out the drive power
> plug as the adapter might not have it included.
> I have a G4 MDD with a 500 gb SATA drive fitted via an adapter in it and
> under it there is a 160 gb ATA hdd . All I needed to do is put a psu
> fitment on the power line on the same line as the old drive.
>
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 5:13 PM, mhfadams  wrote:
>
>> I have used both together on the same machine but I don't know I if I
>> have actually tried both on the same cable before but I don't think there
>> would be a problem.   The SATA drive is on an adapter and so the machine
>> doesn't see it as a SATA.  However,  I am very sure that most adapters are
>> going to be preset as Cable Select (CS) so I would set the ATA drive
>> likewise.
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 9:14:39 AM UTC-8, Bill wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone have experience with having both and IDE and SATA (via
>>> SATA-to-IDE adapter) installed in the same G4 Macintosh?
>>>
>>> I currently have two rotational drives, one with Tiger installed, the
>>> other with Leopard on my G4  2002 Quicksilver.  The Leopard drive is
>>> beginning to should "yellow" SMART indicators, and I'd like to replace it
>>> with an SSD.
>>>
>>> Is this possible to have an IDE and SATA drives on the same cable (with
>>> adapter, of course)?  If so, does it matter which is set to master/slave?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Bill
>>>
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Using SATA and IDE drives in same G4 Macintosh

[William Tomcanin]

Does anyone have experience with having both and IDE and SATA (via
SATA-to-IDE adapter) installed in the same G4 Macintosh?

I currently have two rotational drives, one with Tiger installed, the other
with Leopard on my G4  2002 Quicksilver.  The Leopard drive is beginning to
should "yellow" SMART indicators, and I'd like to replace it with an SSD.

Is this possible to have an IDE and SATA drives on the same cable (with
adapter, of course)?  If so, does it matter which is set to master/slave?

Thanks in advance,
Bill

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Re: Quicksilver 2002 Optical Drive Replacement

[William Tomcanin]

Just a brief update...  I gave up on trying to get the the Pioneer optical
drive to work again -- I got it to work for about 1 day, then the same
problem.  I won't recognized discs (CDs or DVDs) that it played immediately
after cleaning the previous day.

The LG unit works well, although the ADDONICS IDE/SATA adapter that shipped
with it doesn't allow the unit to write CDs or DVDs.

Overall, I'm pleased with the replacement.  I don't know if it's worth it
to try and find an adapter that would restore the ability to burn discs.

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>> Hello everyone,
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>> My 15-year old original Pioneer optical drive has failed completely.  I
>> removed it took it apart, cleaned it which brought it back to life for
>> about one day.  Today it refuses to read anything!
>>
>> Time to replace it and I am wondering what folks are using these days.
>>
>> I've been to the OWC site and see some options for newer drives, but they
>> only function as CD/DVD-rom when connected internally with appropriate
>> adapters.  I can live with that, but would appreciate any recommendations
>> from the group.
>>
>> thanks in advance,
>> Bill
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Re: Quicksilver 2002 Optical Drive Replacement

[William Tomcanin]

Thanks, Bruce.

I am about to purchase an LG drive from OWC (with an SATA-IDE/ATAPI
converter).  I realize that I will likely loose write capability, but I
think that is a function of the adapter that is coming with the product.

 I'm in the process of researching other adapters that might allow me to
write with the appropriate S/W.

Bill

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> > I bought this one for my G5 and It works Great!
> >
> > LG internal / Gh22 Super Multi DVD rewriter 22x 8.5GB DVD+R
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> G5’s use SATA drives and optical drives. QS systems use ATA. Different
> interface.
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Quicksilver 2002 Optical Drive Replacement

[William Tomcanin]

Hello everyone,

My 15-year old original Pioneer optical drive has failed completely.  I
removed it took it apart, cleaned it which brought it back to life for
about one day.  Today it refuses to read anything!

Time to replace it and I am wondering what folks are using these days.

I've been to the OWC site and see some options for newer drives, but they
only function as CD/DVD-rom when connected internally with appropriate
adapters.  I can live with that, but would appreciate any recommendations
from the group.

thanks in advance,
Bill

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Re: HD recommendations for 2002 Quicksilver G4

[William Tomcanin]

I currently use the G4 to run legacy S/W -- I guess it's more of a hobby
machine and not my primary H/W.

I do have a lot of audio and photo files on it, as well as some legacy PPC
S/W that I do not want to loose.

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 4:10 PM, W.Adrian D'Alessio 
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> Is this a hobby computer or a machine that has been a DAW or other
> workstation?
> That would mean a great difference.
> Or is it the only dire option between you and being cut off from the
> world. Or perhaps a trusted and faithful companion you cannot part with?
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> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 3:34 PM, James Knight 
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>> Personally I would get a sata to ide adapter and get any modern small
>> reputable ssd. Clone it with ccc or similar.
>>
>> You won't have trim but with garbage collection on the drive and the
>> bottleneck of the ide bus it should still be way faster and outlast the
>> rest of the G4.
>>
>> Last time i researched this all the actual IDE ssd drives had crappy
>> controllers.
>> -James
>>
>> Sent from my mobile device.
>>
>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 15:09, William Tomcanin  wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I'm sure that this question has been asked before, but I would appreciate
>> receiving any information regarding replacement / upgrades for my "old"
>> (original) hard drive.
>>
>> I'm concerned that it has been with me for over 15 years.  How should I
>> replace and/or upgrade it?
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
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HD recommendations for 2002 Quicksilver G4

[William Tomcanin]

Hello everyone,

I'm sure that this question has been asked before, but I would appreciate
receiving any information regarding replacement / upgrades for my "old"
(original) hard drive.

I'm concerned that it has been with me for over 15 years.  How should I
replace and/or upgrade it?

Thanks in advance!

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SSD for 2002 Quicksilver G4

[William Tomcanin]

Hello everyone,

As the subject line says, I'm wondering if anyone has installed an SSD in their 
G4?  If so, would you please offer recommendations and comments on how it 
performs?

Thanks,
Bill

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Re: Replacement for Quicksilver G4 Superdrive

[William Tomcanin]

Thanks, Pete.

I'll look into the adjustment as well.  Hopefully I'll be able to attempt
the cleaning within the next day or two as time permits.

Thanks for the prompt response!

Regards,
Bill

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 7:28 AM, Peter Devlin  wrote:

> On 20/04/2015 11:39, "William Tomcanin"  wrote:
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> > Has anyone manually cleaned the laser lens on their DVD drive?  I'm
> tempted at
> > this point to remove the drive, take it apart and attempt to clean it
> manually
> > until a replacement arrives.
> >
> > I understand that the lenses on the original Pioneer 103 DVR drives must
> be
> > immaculate in order for them to work properly.
> >
> > Bill
>
> Hi,
> Yes I've done that with many of the optical drives I've had over the
> years - alcohol on a cotton bud will usually do the trick for just cleaning
> the lens. An associated problem with age is focus drift errors on the lens
> -
> I had this problem with an Xbox dvd player - fortunately there are screw
> adjustments available for the laser lens focus and a fiddle with these
> fixed
> my problem. I would recommend googling for some kind of tutorial first
> though as you need to be able to reverse your chosen adjustment back to
> it's
> original position if it's the wrong one and before you attempt another.
>
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Re: Replacement for Quicksilver G4 Superdrive

[William Tomcanin]

Has anyone manually cleaned the laser lens on their DVD drive?  I'm tempted
at this point to remove the drive, take it apart and attempt to clean it
manually until a replacement arrives.

I understand that the lenses on the original Pioneer 103 DVR drives must be
immaculate in order for them to work properly.

Bill

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> Subject: Re: Replacement for Quicksilver G4 Superdrive
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> On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 10:55:31 AM UTC-5, Bill wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> As the subject line implies, the Superdrive in my trusty Quicksilver will
>> no longer read DVDs.  CDs appear to read ok, although burning is becoming
>> problematic (50-50 chance of success).
>>
>> Can anyone suggest a replacement?
>>
>
> The difficulty is that PATA drives are no longer manufactured and the old
> stock of half-height (normal optical drive sized) PATA optical drives ran
> out a long time ago.
>
> SATA optical drives are still available.  Newegg regularly has them for
> less than $20, so, if there is room, you might install a SATA optical drive
> with a PATA to SATA adapter (some of the adapters will work in both
> directions).
>
> Another alternative is to get this slim PATA optical drive:
> http://amzn.com/B001B7XYZO
>
> This or similar slimline PATA to normal PATA adapter:
> http://r.ebay.com/Yy4C5d
>
> And you may need this slim-line optical drive to full-size optical drive
> physical adapter:   http://amzn.com/B007C1KPQY
>
> The drive is slot-load, so it may not work well if you G4 has doors that
> need to be pushed open by a tray.
>
> Jeff Walther
>
>
> I use an external firewire DVD drive with my Macs.  It solved every
> problem I ever had burning discs on Apple hardware.  USB is cheaper but
> sucks on PPC macs.
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Re: Replacement for Quicksilver G4 Superdrive

[William Tomcanin]

Thanks, Bruce!

Bill

On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Bruce Johnson  wrote:

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>  On Apr 12, 2015, at 8:55 AM, William Tomcanin 
> wrote:
>
>Hello all,
>
>  As the subject line implies, the Superdrive in my trusty Quicksilver will
> no longer read DVDs.  CDs appear to read ok, although burning is becoming
> problematic (50-50 chance of success).
>
>  Can anyone suggest a replacement?
>
>  Thanks in advance,
>  Bill
>
>
>  Pretty much any ATA DVD +/- R/RW drive will work, if you’re using 10.5.
> For previous versions of OS X you need to get Patchburn: <
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Replacement for Quicksilver G4 Superdrive

[William Tomcanin]

Hello all,

As the subject line implies, the Superdrive in my trusty Quicksilver will
no longer read DVDs.  CDs appear to read ok, although burning is becoming
problematic (50-50 chance of success).

Can anyone suggest a replacement?

Thanks in advance,
Bill

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Re: ios7 growing pains

[William Tomcanin]

Jeff,

Have you encountered any problems with iTunes 11 or WiFi with your setup?

I am seriously considering doing the same thing.  Recently I lost the use of my 
G4 iMac due to a blown power supply, and my G3 PowerBook (CPU).

I'm looking for something that can support my two iPhones running iOS 7.

Bill

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2013, at 11:46 AM, "t...@prismnet.com"  wrote:

> 
> 
> On Wednesday, September 25, 2013 3:25:06 PM UTC-5, Chance Reecher wrote:
>> 
>> On 9/25/13 4:19 PM, Charles Lenington wrote: 
>> > 
>> > --You could always try a hack. 
>> > 
>> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hq-a/ 
>> 
>> Seriuously. This is the way to go. You can easily get Mac Pro level 
>> performance for a third the cost. 
>> 
>> I went Hack over 4 years ago and can't see myself ever buying another 
>> Apple desktop. Their laptops, on the other hand, are worth every penny. 
>> 
>> Oh, and another great resource for this is tonymacx86.com. Great 
>> community there.
> 
> I'm running 10.6 on my Dell Latitude D430.
> 
> http://www.osxlatitude.com
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Re: Importing Bookmarks/Passwords to TenFourFox

[William Tomcanin]

Thanks, Michael.


On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Michael McMurtrey
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> On Aug 18, 2013, at 5:46 AM, William Tomcanin wrote:
>
>
>I just installed TenFourFox on my 2002 Quicksilver, and I have the same
>question regarding importing bookmarks, etc., from Safari. I can't
>seem to
>get them imported. How did you do it?
>
> Open TenFourFox. In the "Bookmarks" menu, click on "Show All Bookmarks."  A
> new window will open with five buttons. Click the one at the far right (the
> "star cycle" icon) and select Import Data From Another Browser, then select
> Safari.
>
> This apparently only work for Bookmarks. i have had to re-enter passwords
> manually, but fortunately had a master list kept elsewhere. You can find
> your user names for the sites you visit by opening Safari and going to
> Preferences>Autofill and clicking on the "Edit" button next to "User names
> and passwords."
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Re: Importing Bookmarks/Passwords to TenFourFox

[William Tomcanin]

Michael,

I just installed TenFourFox on my 2002 Quicksilver, and I have the same
question regarding importing bookmarks, etc., from Safari.  I can't seem to
get them imported.  How did you do it?

Thanks in advance,
Bill


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>
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Re: G4 Quicksilver 2002

[William Tomcanin]

Thanks for the responses everyone.

I confirmed that the noise was coming from the CPU cooling fan.

I removed it, removed the label, applied about 5 small drops of 3-in-1 oil
to the bearing and worked it in until the fan blades were able to move
freely.

I replaced the unit, and it is much, much quieter now (it sounded like a
field of crickets before).

I'll go ahead and purchase a replacement.

--Bill

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> Could very well be although this was about seven years ago so I was
> certain the fan was original. However the plug connection made for an easy
> exchange.  No soldering! Got the fan side plug from a power supply for a
> severely damaged model aircraft I just happened to have saved.
> FWIW
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Re: G4 Quicksilver 2002

[William Tomcanin]

Hello G4 users,

My 2002 Quicksilver is starting to make some noise associated with the CPU
cooling fan (as far as I can isolate it).

Can anyone share experiences re:  replacing this fan?

Is it fairly easy to remove, replace and/or repair (i.e., lube?)

Thanks,
Bill

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> Hello G4 users,
>
> I have a Quicksilver G4 2002 running OSX 10.5.8 with 1.5 GB of RAM and two
> internal Harddisks ( 320 GB and 160 GB) installed
> and I use it every day. It still looks as if it came right out of the box.
> Last week I put in a new pram battery after 10 years !
> As long as I will be able to run most of my software for surfing (using
> TenFourFox7450) and word processing (open office)  I will continue to use
> it.
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Re: Excessive fan noise - Quicksilver 2002

[William Tomcanin]

... an update.

My replacement fan is in transit, but in the interim I disassembled the
power supply and removed the old fan - a bit of a challenge due to the
tight fit and various items glued to its case.

I removed the label carefully drilled a small hole (1/16") into the hub
(there was no removable cap under the label), and fed several small drops
of 3-in-1 machine oil into the hole.

After manually rotating the fan for several minutes, the fins rotated
easily.  I sealed the hole with black electrical tape, replaced the hub
sticker, and reassembled the power supply.

The fan started up, is much quieter, and is really pumping out the air.

I hope that this will keep me in business until I can replace the fan with
the new one.

Thanks to everyone for your advice and comments.

--Bill

On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:11 AM, William Tomcanin wrote:

> Thanks, everyone.
>
> I've bought a StarTech.com 80x25mm Dual Ball Bearing Computer Case Fan
> (rated at >32 cfm) that I'm going to use to replace the PSU fan.  Hopefully
> the ball bearing will last longer than the sleeve bearings that I think are
> used the existing fan.
>
> Incidentally, since I last gave the existing fan a good "flip" to get it
> started, it has continued to spin, although I think at lower rpm.
>
> In any event, it's coming out soon.
>
> Bill
>
> On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 5:00 PM, John Callahan wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jun 30, 2012, at 9:39 AM, William Tomcanin wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Can anyone recommend a course of action?  lubrication?  replacement?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bill
>>>
>>
>> Hello Bill,
>>
>>  My QS 2002 came down with kernel panics etc. and after a lot of
>> searching discovered it was caused by over-heating due to the fact the MB
>> heat sink cooling fan was not working. I ordered a new fan and while I was
>> waiting for delivery cooled the heat sink by running with the side door
>> open and a small electric fan blowing on the heat sink. Worked fine and I
>> kept track of operating temperatures with a down loaded temp. read out.
>> After receiving the fan I removed and reseated the heat sink then installed
>> the new fan. New fan came with out a plug on it so save the old fan. As I
>> recall the new fan cost about $15.00. This was several years ago and the QS
>> is still working fine. A wonderful machine.
>> Hope this helps.
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Re: Excessive fan noise - Quicksilver 2002

[William Tomcanin]

Thanks, everyone.

I've bought a StarTech.com 80x25mm Dual Ball Bearing Computer Case Fan
(rated at >32 cfm) that I'm going to use to replace the PSU fan.  Hopefully
the ball bearing will last longer than the sleeve bearings that I think are
used the existing fan.

Incidentally, since I last gave the existing fan a good "flip" to get it
started, it has continued to spin, although I think at lower rpm.

In any event, it's coming out soon.

Bill

On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 5:00 PM, John Callahan wrote:

>
> On Jun 30, 2012, at 9:39 AM, William Tomcanin wrote:
>
>
>
>
>> Can anyone recommend a course of action?  lubrication?  replacement?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill
>>
>
> Hello Bill,
>
>  My QS 2002 came down with kernel panics etc. and after a lot of searching
> discovered it was caused by over-heating due to the fact the MB heat sink
> cooling fan was not working. I ordered a new fan and while I was waiting
> for delivery cooled the heat sink by running with the side door open and a
> small electric fan blowing on the heat sink. Worked fine and I kept track
> of operating temperatures with a down loaded temp. read out. After
> receiving the fan I removed and reseated the heat sink then installed the
> new fan. New fan came with out a plug on it so save the old fan. As I
> recall the new fan cost about $15.00. This was several years ago and the QS
> is still working fine. A wonderful machine.
> Hope this helps.
>
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Re: Excessive fan noise - Quicksilver 2002

[William Tomcanin]

Thanks again for the responses ..  I assume the PSU fan is 80 x 80 x 25 mm,
at least 32 cfm?   Any restrictions on current draw at 12 v?

--Bill

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> Thanks everyone!
>
> After some cleaning and further investigation, I discovered that the power
> supply fan is binding.  I had to "flip" it a few times with a toothpick in
> order to get it moving, albeit rather slowly.
>
> I suspect that this is driving the internal temperature too high, and is
> resulting in the other fans running at higher speed.
>
> It looks as if I will need to either replace the fan or power supply soon.
>
> I know that you replaced your fan, Peter, has anyone replaced the full
> PSU?  If so, how difficult is it?
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 6:24 AM, William Tomcanin wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Recently I've noticed he fan on my Quicksilver G4 has been making much
>> more noise than usual.
>>
>> I periodically clean the dust out of the interior and the ventilation
>> ports, but the noise persists..
>>
>> Can anyone recommend a course of action?  lubrication?  replacement?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill
>>
>
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Re: Excessive fan noise - Quicksilver 2002

[William Tomcanin]

Thanks everyone!

After some cleaning and further investigation, I discovered that the power
supply fan is binding.  I had to "flip" it a few times with a toothpick in
order to get it moving, albeit rather slowly.

I suspect that this is driving the internal temperature too high, and is
resulting in the other fans running at higher speed.

It looks as if I will need to either replace the fan or power supply soon.

I know that you replaced your fan, Peter, has anyone replaced the full PSU?
 If so, how difficult is it?

Thanks,
Bill

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 6:24 AM, William Tomcanin wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Recently I've noticed he fan on my Quicksilver G4 has been making much
> more noise than usual.
>
> I periodically clean the dust out of the interior and the ventilation
> ports, but the noise persists..
>
> Can anyone recommend a course of action?  lubrication?  replacement?
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>

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Re: Excessive fan noise - Quicksilver 2002

[William Tomcanin]

Thanks, peter.

The one thing I didn't do was to clean the actual fan blades.  I will do
that immediately.

The noise doesn't appear to be a "whine" that I normally associate with
bearing wear, but seems to be more of a noticeable "whirring".

If additional cleaning doesn't improve the situation, I'll start looking
for a replacement fan.

Thanks again,
Bill

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Peter Devlin  wrote:

> On 27/06/2012 11:24, "William Tomcanin"  wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Recently I've noticed he fan on my Quicksilver G4 has been making much
> more
> > noise than usual.
> >
> > I periodically clean the dust out of the interior and the ventilation
> ports,
> > but the noise persists..
> >
> > Can anyone recommend a course of action?  lubrication?  replacement?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bill
>
> I had problems with fan noise and overheating with my MDD dual 1.25 -
> resulted in me stripping it bare and performing certain 'modifications' -
> some of them to the fan and airflow. The fan had metal spider web grilles
> either side - I ditched the one which was screwed on and dremelled the
> other
> away to  improve airflow - I also ditched the metal pci blanks. As for the
> fan I scrubbed it all mercilessly with a toothbrush and washing up liquid -
> taking care to avoid the electrical bits in the hub - and then gave the
> inner housing and blades several coats of heavy furniture wax polished to
> the best shine I could get - seemed like a good idea at the time though I
> would have preferred to treat it with the silicon spray I used to use in my
> printing days to reduce friction whilst sliding large reams of paper around
> on benches and loading tables.
>The 'modifications' reduced the noise and improved the airflow - but if
> the noise is wear and tear to the fan bearings only a new or replacement
> 120cm fan will cure that.
>
> Pete
>
>
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Excessive fan noise - Quicksilver 2002

[William Tomcanin]

Hi everyone,

Recently I've noticed he fan on my Quicksilver G4 has been making much more
noise than usual.

I periodically clean the dust out of the interior and the ventilation
ports, but the noise persists..

Can anyone recommend a course of action?  lubrication?  replacement?

Thanks,
Bill

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Source of spare parts for G3 / G4?

[William Tomcanin]

Hello all,

I'm wondering where I can find spare / replacement parts for my aging G3's
and G4.

I am searching for a replacement power supply for my G3 "gooseneck" iMac.
 I also need some replacement parts for my G3 "Lombard" powerbook.

Can anyone recommend some sources?

Thanks!

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G4 Quicksilver Sleep Settings - Mac OS X 10.5.8

[William Tomcanin]

Hi all,

I'm curious as to what folks are using for the following system preferences:

System Sleep
Disk Sleep
Display Sleep

I'm currently putting my display to sleep after 30 min., but never allowing
the computer nor hard drives to sleep.

Since I leave my computer running 24 x 7, I'm wondering if I should be also
putting the system and disks to sleep as well.

Thanks!

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Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?

[William Tomcanin]

I have used my 2002 Quicksilver G4 (867 MHz, Mac OS X 10.5.8) everyday for
about the past 9 years.

It does everything I need -- e-mail, web browsing, music, video and
photography.

I use NeoOffice as my document processor, presentation maker, and for
spreadsheets.

I am quite happy with it!

On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 12:40 PM, gira93  wrote:

> Hello everyone!
>
> Hi would like to know if someone here still uses his Powermac g4,
>
> I have a g4 quicksilver (733mhz, 630mb ram) that i still use (and
> love) today for web browsing, web administration and youtube, it works
> very well with 10.4.11.
>
> I'm writing this because a friend said i was "crazy" just beacuse i
> use such an old mac for the "everyday use".
>
> So does anyone here is still using his old trusty G4?
>
> PS: Sorry for my bad english, i'm italian.
>
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