Re: Orinoco Wavelan card - install in a G4 tower?
On Jun 18, 2:32 pm, johnwd5 john...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I seem to recall an article a few years back where someone managed to somehow literally hack into an Orinoco Wavelan card and cut it to a 90 degree angle in order for their G4 tower door to close. If anyone has it bookmarked could they contact me? I have it installed and seen as an Airport card but of course it's too long to close the PowerMac's door. Thanks, John I seem to recall this too. However, there is a less destructive way. Some time ago I found that certain PCI to PCMCIA adapters (basically a PCI card that you can plug a laptop card into) work fine on a Mac. Some were even labelled OS X compatible. For about a year I had an Echo Indigo IO sound card plugged into my Powermac G5 this way. Unfortunately, it involved several PMU resets and reseatings to get working properly. Perhaps you could get the card working this way. Might not be cost effective though. I think SYBA or SIIG made such an adapter... Eric -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Orinoco Wavelan card - install in a G4 tower?
Hello, I seem to recall an article a few years back where someone managed to somehow literally hack into an Orinoco Wavelan card and cut it to a 90 degree angle in order for their G4 tower door to close. If anyone has it bookmarked could they contact me? I have it installed and seen as an Airport card but of course it's too long to close the PowerMac's door. Thanks, John -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
My PM G4 MDD Dual 1.25 has everything I will ever need in a PPC machine. This box runs every day mostly ripping and burning, great for burning two at a time in the time of one. I've never had a component go out yet except a PRAM battery and HHD that Seagate replaced for free. All I think is needed is to keep them free of dirt and dust buildup. 2GB RAM ATI Radeon 9000 Pro card with a 20 Cinema display Booting OS 9.2.2, 10.4.11, 10.5.8. 2 Pioneer 118L optical drives 4 Seagate 500 GB HDD's GeeThree Stealth serial port F/W 400 2 eSATA ports. 4 USB 2.0 ports AirPort I have a PM G5 that bit the dust a couple of weeks ago and I'm in the process of rebuilding the processor heat sink (liquid cooled) it's only 4 years old but the MDD just keeps truckin'. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
On Oct 28, 2010, at 6:28 AM, Powermac wrote: Now that time has gone by we should have an idea what the most and least reliable G4 towers are. Seems to me that ADC equipped towers have issues with power supplies, other then that I don't know. What do you guys think? While not in the same league as most of the machines mentioned, I have a Sawtooth that has been running 24/7 for over 5 years. It was my main machine till the Intel iMac followed me home a couple of years ago. ;-) Now doing duty as a file server on the network. Powerlogix 1.6 GHz cpu 2 GB ram 2 x 120 GB HD 500 GB USB drive 4 port USB 2.0 pci card DVD-RW DL Amanda -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
I have two 1.25 GHz MDD G4's, bought them new, and have used them heavily for graphics work from the start. I vote for them as the most reliable G4, but with one caveat. The air intake grill is set up under the front foot and it is possible to not know it is there or to forget to keep it clean. If it gets clogged with dust you will probably get a power supply failure. The power supply on both mine failed at the same time but, having it repaired was easy, and they are back at work. I'll accept the blame for not keeping the air intake grill free of dust. == On Oct 28, 2010, at 10:00 PM, Bruce wrote: Hello, Most Reliable G4 Tower: MDD Dual 1.25 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
RE: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
I have never had a problem with my MDD DP 1.42.Ghz (FW800) 2 GB Ram with a 120 GB drive and a 500 GB drive running 10.5.8 flawlessly. Peace Kurt A. Swigart When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. Jimi Hendrix Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens Jimi Hendrix -Original Message- From: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:g3-5-l...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Morgan Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 2:21 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable I have two 1.25 GHz MDD G4's, bought them new, and have used them heavily for graphics work from the start. I vote for them as the most reliable G4, but with one caveat. The air intake grill is set up under the front foot and it is possible to not know it is there or to forget to keep it clean. If it gets clogged with dust you will probably get a power supply failure. The power supply on both mine failed at the same time but, having it repaired was easy, and they are back at work. I'll accept the blame for not keeping the air intake grill free of dust. == On Oct 28, 2010, at 10:00 PM, Bruce wrote: Hello, Most Reliable G4 Tower: MDD Dual 1.25 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list This e-mail may contain Sprint Nextel proprietary information intended for the sole use of the recipient(s). Any use by others is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies of the message. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
Now that time has gone by we should have an idea what the most and least reliable G4 towers are. Seems to me that ADC equipped towers have issues with power supplies, other then that I don't know. What do you guys think? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
Now that time has gone by we should have an idea what the most and least reliable G4 towers are. Seems to me that ADC equipped towers have issues with power supplies, other then that I don't know. What do you guys think? IMHO my G4 MDD Dual 1.25 is the work horse around here it has a Cinema 20 ADC and just keeps on truckin' I have a lot of macs and for most stuff the Buick is the goto machine. Same power supply since new. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
On Oct 28, 2010, at 7:12 AM, carmo...@aol.com wrote: Now that time has gone by we should have an idea what the most and least reliable G4 towers are. Seems to me that ADC equipped towers have issues with power supplies, other then that I don't know. What do you guys think? IMHO my G4 MDD Dual 1.25 is the work horse around here it has a Cinema 20 ADC and just keeps on truckin' I have a lot of macs and for most stuff the Buick is the goto machine. Same power supply since new. I need to agree here, my MDD dual 1.42 is a keeper, very dependable machine. Jeff Engle -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
The Digital Audio models aren't quite as fast as the MDD but they are very well built and probably less expensive if you're looking to pick up a used one. With a slight wiring mod I put a QS 933 MHz processor into mine, along with the max 1.5 GB RAM and a GeForce 6200 video card; it runs Leopard nicely. On Oct 28, 9:28 am, Powermac teozen...@gmail.com wrote: Now that time has gone by we should have an idea what the most and least reliable G4 towers are. Seems to me that ADC equipped towers have issues with power supplies, other then that I don't know. What do you guys think? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
At 9:28 AM -0700 10/28/10, Jeffrey Engle wrote: I need to agree here, my MDD dual 1.42 is a keeper, very dependable machine. Jeff Engle Ditto knocking on wood! Diane -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
I'm interested in a Quicksilver 2002 and a Gigabit Ethernet, the QS for OS X and the Gigabit for Linux on PPC. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 15:16, diane di...@mathermotorsports.com wrote: At 9:28 AM -0700 10/28/10, Jeffrey Engle wrote: I need to agree here, my MDD dual 1.42 is a keeper, very dependable machine. Jeff Engle Ditto knocking on wood! Diane -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro, Tennessee USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
On Oct 28, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote: I'm interested in a Quicksilver 2002 and a Gigabit Ethernet, the QS for OS X and the Gigabit for Linux on PPC. I'm enjoying my Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz, but had to replace the motherboard after a lightening strike nearby ... turns out the original eBay one must have been defective and I just did not know it, although used it for a couple of years before 20/20 hindsight clarified things relative to a touchy M-Audio 2496 PCI sound card. With the new mobo, I'm running OS X 10.5.8 successfully with a SeriTech SATA PCI card and Seagate SATA drives. Doing VHS tape to DVD disk conversions using an external ADVC300 converter box. I might go for an MDD next, but settled for the QS 2002 since the MDDs were still relatively expensive, and I read some report that the increase in bus speed over the QS to MDD did not show much increase in overall throughput. Something about a bottleneck somewhere's else, or Apple had just reached a design limitation. I'm also enjoying daily use of a Digital Audio that someone had put a Dual G4 533 into ... works great, too with SeriTech SATA PCI card and SATA drives. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
I like this model a lot. The Zip drive, if still there, and Zip CAGE can both be removed, creating more open space inside for running cables, SCSI, ATA or SATA. It seems to run cooler and quieter than a MDD I had for a short time. On Oct 28, 2010, at 4:32 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GH -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
On Oct 28, 2010, at 4:32 PM, admin wrote: I like this model a lot. The Zip drive, if still there, and Zip CAGE can both be removed, creating more open space inside for running cables, SCSI, ATA or SATA. It seems to run cooler and quieter than a MDD I had for a short time. The QS 2002 dual 1.0 GHz is an exceptionally reliable machine, perhaps more reliable than any successor machine (Mirror Door, et. al.). The QS 2001/QS2002 Zip drive carrier requires simple modifications to accommodate an HD in place of the Zip, and the QS 2002 ROM will accept any LBA48 drive (500 GB, say) on the optical bus, as it will on the HD bus, and the QS2001 and the Digital Audio can very easily made to do so (LBA48 Property Script). There are no significant reliability issues with the PSU of the DA, QS 2001 nor with the QS 2002. The motherboards are essentially the same, differing only in certain changes to accommodate the changes in overall functional specifications. 1.5 GB maximum RAM in all. I have retired my several DAs, just because, and I have replaced all with a single QS 2002 dual 1.0 GHz, and have augmented these by certain generic machines (LGA 775 AND LGA 1156) which have been adapted to run 10.6.4 using the usual techniques. My most reliable machine is a Shuttle SP35P2V2 (P35 Northbridge/ICH9- R Southbridge) with an nVidia 8400GS video card and a Dell/Broadcom 4318 Airport-compatible WiFi card, running MacOS X 10.6.4 with ALL software updates. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
On Oct 28, 2010, at 9:28 AM, Powermac wrote: Now that time has gone by we should have an idea what the most and least reliable G4 towers are. Seems to me that ADC equipped towers have issues with power supplies, other then that I don't know. What do you guys think? I'll probably keep my QuickSilver Dual 1GHz when all my other G4s have been converted to Ubuntu. (I think that's the only way I'll be able to get rid of them on Craigs List). I'm not too keen on their limitation to 1.5GB Ram, though. I have a Sonnet card supporting two extra internal HDDs for a total of four drives which was an early improvement. No problems with overheating, and the power supply seems to be OK with the arrangement. It's not the most quiet in terms of fan noise but it's been operating 24/7 since I bought it used in 2006. I may add a second DVR drive just to fill out the empty space. OS 10.5.8. Replaced the video card with an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro which needed a new fan. Everything is OK as of today. I've never had a G5, having jumped directly to the Mac Pro. Dale Hoffman Louisville, KY -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
Is it true that the ati radeon card needs additional power or can I do a straight swap and upgrade the g4mx? On Oct 28, 2010, at 8:49 PM, Dale Hoffman dh...@margnat.com wrote: On Oct 28, 2010, at 9:28 AM, Powermac wrote: Now that time has gone by we should have an idea what the most and least reliable G4 towers are. Seems to me that ADC equipped towers have issues with power supplies, other then that I don't know. What do you guys think? I'll probably keep my QuickSilver Dual 1GHz when all my other G4s have been converted to Ubuntu. (I think that's the only way I'll be able to get rid of them on Craigs List). I'm not too keen on their limitation to 1.5GB Ram, though. I have a Sonnet card supporting two extra internal HDDs for a total of four drives which was an early improvement. No problems with overheating, and the power supply seems to be OK with the arrangement. It's not the most quiet in terms of fan noise but it's been operating 24/7 since I bought it used in 2006. I may add a second DVR drive just to fill out the empty space. OS 10.5.8. Replaced the video card with an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro which needed a new fan. Everything is OK as of today. I've never had a G5, having jumped directly to the Mac Pro. Dale Hoffman Louisville, KY -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
I have had wonderful reliability with my g4 933 QS. On Oct 28, 2010, at 8:49 PM, Dale Hoffman dh...@margnat.com wrote: On Oct 28, 2010, at 9:28 AM, Powermac wrote: Now that time has gone by we should have an idea what the most and least reliable G4 towers are. Seems to me that ADC equipped towers have issues with power supplies, other then that I don't know. What do you guys think? I'll probably keep my QuickSilver Dual 1GHz when all my other G4s have been converted to Ubuntu. (I think that's the only way I'll be able to get rid of them on Craigs List). I'm not too keen on their limitation to 1.5GB Ram, though. I have a Sonnet card supporting two extra internal HDDs for a total of four drives which was an early improvement. No problems with overheating, and the power supply seems to be OK with the arrangement. It's not the most quiet in terms of fan noise but it's been operating 24/7 since I bought it used in 2006. I may add a second DVR drive just to fill out the empty space. OS 10.5.8. Replaced the video card with an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro which needed a new fan. Everything is OK as of today. I've never had a G5, having jumped directly to the Mac Pro. Dale Hoffman Louisville, KY -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
On Oct 28, 2010, at 7:58 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: Is it true that the ati radeon card needs additional power or can I do a straight swap and upgrade the g4mx? The term ATI Radeon card describes an entire series that started in 2000 and continues to today. Generally speaking, you should be able to do a direct swap of cards without issues. In some rare instances it might be possible that a newer card would require additional power, and in a Mac that's a near impossibility since this would require a replacement power supply with greater power than the OEM, and this generally aren't manufactured or available. Just swap the cards, assuming the Radeon is a Mac card with a ROM for a PPC Mac. If it's a PC card, you'll need to flash the ROM over to Mac first. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Oct 28, 2010, at 8:58 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: Is it true that the ati radeon card needs additional power or can I do a straight swap and upgrade the g4mx? I have a ATI 9800Pro in my QS 2002 Dual, and yes it requires a plug into the system's wiring ... very simple. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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You get the power from one of the ata hd power plugs? Why can't it operate like the mx card? On Oct 28, 2010, at 9:11 PM, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Oct 28, 2010, at 8:58 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: Is it true that the ati radeon card needs additional power or can I do a straight swap and upgrade the g4mx? I have a ATI 9800Pro in my QS 2002 Dual, and yes it requires a plug into the system's wiring ... very simple. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Oct 28, 2010, at 9:24 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: You get the power from one of the ata hd power plugs? Why can't it operate like the mx card? I don't remember ... maybe the 9800's fan (not one on the 4MX card) needs the extra power? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
On Oct 28, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: You get the power from one of the ata hd power plugs? What model of Radeon card are you talking about? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
Hello, Most Reliable G4 Tower: MDD Dual 1.25 Least Reliable G4 Tower: 2001 QS 733 - 2 dead power supplies in 2 years. Bruce Sugarberg WA8TNC -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
I was considering the ati radeon pro Mac edition in 128 or 256. Seems like they are expensive and not easy to come by. I see now that you have to watch and make sure it's a Mac card and that it has adc too. On Oct 28, 2010, at 9:34 PM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Oct 28, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: You get the power from one of the ata hd power plugs? What model of Radeon card are you talking about? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
I'm not sure of which one yet. I guess the 128 would be a huge improvement On Oct 28, 2010, at 9:34 PM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Oct 28, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: You get the power from one of the ata hd power plugs? What model of Radeon card are you talking about? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
On Oct 28, 2010, at 9:06 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: I was considering the ati radeon pro Mac edition in 128 or 256. Seems like they are expensive and not easy to come by. I see now that you have to watch and make sure it's a Mac card and that it has adc too. I'm not sure of which one yet. I guess the 128 would be a huge improvement I'm not too familiar with the market for Mac Radeon cards with ADC, but my suspicion is that they should be cheap since almost everyone has migrated on to LCD monitors and the call for ADC ports should be near zero? This would make me suspect that you could probably place a WTB: ADC Radeon Card Cheap on LEM-Swap and get a lot of replies for since many people would be replacing ADC cards with dual DVI or combo VGA/DVI cards so that they could drive two LCD monitors. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
I've had my 400MHz G4 Gigabit since January of 2001 as my main desktop machine. It runs 24/7, (except when I travel), and it has run flawlessly for this period. Only modification was the addition of a SCSI card when new and pumping up the ram from 256MB to 768MB. Oh, I did replace the original drives with a 120 Western Digital GB and 160GB Seagate. I suspect that if I were to go to a full 2GB RAM, it would run even better. JT (Who is looking toward a Core 2 Mac Mini after the first of the year) Refinance Now 3.4% FIXED $160,000 Mortgage: $547/mo. No Hidden Fees. No SSN Req. Get 4 Quotes! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4cca2e35efe6b2527cst01duc -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
Thanks. I'll give it a try. On Oct 28, 2010, at 10:15 PM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Oct 28, 2010, at 9:06 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: I was considering the ati radeon pro Mac edition in 128 or 256. Seems like they are expensive and not easy to come by. I see now that you have to watch and make sure it's a Mac card and that it has adc too. I'm not sure of which one yet. I guess the 128 would be a huge improvement I'm not too familiar with the market for Mac Radeon cards with ADC, but my suspicion is that they should be cheap since almost everyone has migrated on to LCD monitors and the call for ADC ports should be near zero? This would make me suspect that you could probably place a WTB: ADC Radeon Card Cheap on LEM-Swap and get a lot of replies for since many people would be replacing ADC cards with dual DVI or combo VGA/DVI cards so that they could drive two LCD monitors. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
My 2001 quicksilver sits at work as a test box at the Disaster Recovery site to this day. One day, the server room cooler failed. All of the real servers went into thermal alarm and shut down. The heat blast about knocked me down when I opened the door. What was still running? Cisco devices and the 2001 overclocked Quickksilver. I think I saw it YAWN at me in boredom when I opened the door. - Original Message - From: Peter Haas [mailto:peterh...@cruzio.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 05:59 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable On Oct 28, 2010, at 4:32 PM, admin wrote: I like this model a lot. The Zip drive, if still there, and Zip CAGE can both be removed, creating more open space inside for running cables, SCSI, ATA or SATA. It seems to run cooler and quieter than a MDD I had for a short time. The QS 2002 dual 1.0 GHz is an exceptionally reliable machine, perhaps more reliable than any successor machine (Mirror Door, et. al.). The QS 2001/QS2002 Zip drive carrier requires simple modifications to accommodate an HD in place of the Zip, and the QS 2002 ROM will accept any LBA48 drive (500 GB, say) on the optical bus, as it will on the HD bus, and the QS2001 and the Digital Audio can very easily made to do so (LBA48 Property Script). There are no significant reliability issues with the PSU of the DA, QS 2001 nor with the QS 2002. The motherboards are essentially the same, differing only in certain changes to accommodate the changes in overall functional specifications. 1.5 GB maximum RAM in all. I have retired my several DAs, just because, and I have replaced all with a single QS 2002 dual 1.0 GHz, and have augmented these by certain generic machines (LGA 775 AND LGA 1156) which have been adapted to run 10.6.4 using the usual techniques. My most reliable machine is a Shuttle SP35P2V2 (P35 Northbridge/ICH9- R Southbridge) with an nVidia 8400GS video card and a Dell/Broadcom 4318 Airport-compatible WiFi card, running MacOS X 10.6.4 with ALL software updates. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
I have 5 MDD G4s. One was bought new, all others on eBay. Ironically one failed, power supply I think, and it was the machine I had bought new. These can be had with solid RAM (2GB) and only need a USB 2.0 card to be fully useful. Leopard runs well on them. I bought a Mac Pro Quad core a few months back, the only real time I see a difference is encoding video. These (G4s) are great for web browsing, video editing, spreadsheets, etc. Great family and/or older person computer. On Oct 28, 9:28 am, Powermac teozen...@gmail.com wrote: Now that time has gone by we should have an idea what the most and least reliable G4 towers are. Seems to me that ADC equipped towers have issues with power supplies, other then that I don't know. What do you guys think? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Gigabit G4 Tower + Leopard = Not working?
I tried multiple ways to get Leopard to install onto my Gigabit G4 tower, including putting it into FireWire disk mode and installing from a Mac mini G4, as well as modifying the reported clock frequency in Open Firmware and booting from the Leopard installer. Every time I'm getting the unable to find driver for powermac3,3 kernel panic. What's going on here? Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Gigabit G4 Tower + Leopard = Not working?
On Aug 18, 2010, at 10:29 PM, Dan Palka wrote: I tried multiple ways to get Leopard to install onto my Gigabit G4 tower, including putting it into FireWire disk mode and installing from a Mac mini G4, as well as modifying the reported clock frequency in Open Firmware and booting from the Leopard installer. Every time I'm getting the unable to find driver for powermac3,3 kernel panic. What's going on here? Any ideas? You need at least 867 MHz processor to install 10.5 on that machine. I do this by installing the system on a Fire Wire drive via a compatible machine and the using Carbon Copy Cloner to get it on the slower machine. But be aware it will be real slooow. :-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
RE: Gigabit G4 Tower + Leopard = Not working?
From: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:g3-5-l...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Carmonne Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 8:16 AM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Gigabit G4 Tower + Leopard = Not working? On Aug 18, 2010, at 10:29 PM, Dan Palka wrote: I tried multiple ways to get Leopard to install onto my Gigabit G4 tower, including putting it into FireWire disk mode and installing from a Mac mini G4, as well as modifying the reported clock frequency in Open Firmware and booting from the Leopard installer. Every time I'm getting the unable to find driver for powermac3,3 kernel panic. What's going on here? Any ideas? You need at least 867 MHz processor to install 10.5 on that machine. I do this by installing the system on a Fire Wire drive via a compatible machine and the using Carbon Copy Cloner to get it on the slower machine. But be aware it will be real slooow. :-) There are software tricks and tools (LeopardAssist?) to let one install 10.5 on a slower system. As for the OP, I'd take a look to make sure your Firmware is up-to-date. When I was looking to try Leopard on my Sawtooth, I saw a couple of comments which pointed in that direction. John -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Gigabit G4 Tower + Leopard = Not working?
You need at least 867 MHz processor to install 10.5 on that machine. I do this by installing the system on a Fire Wire drive via a compatible machine and the using Carbon Copy Cloner to get it on the slower machine. But be aware it will be real slooow. :-) There are software tricks and tools (LeopardAssist?) to let one install 10.5 on a slower system. As for the OP, I'd take a look to make sure your Firmware is up-to-date. When I was looking to try Leopard on my Sawtooth, I saw a couple of comments which pointed in that direction. John The OP stated a Mini G4 in the mix I sometimes feel that the Mini system can be problematic I would do an install on a FW drive from any G4 867 up except a Mini and see if I could boot the FW drive on the Gigabit. Then you may have to reset all in the Gigabit, remove every thing from the machine including the RAM, HDD's , PRAM battery and unplug all cables you can , hold CUDA down for 30 secs and reinstall your parts. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Gigabit G4 Tower + Leopard = Not working?
On Aug 20, 2010, at 8:27 AM, John Carmonne wrote: The OP stated a Mini G4 in the mix I sometimes feel that the Mini system can be problematic I would do an install on a FW drive from any G4 867 up except a Mini and see if I could boot the FW drive on the Gigabit. Then you may have to reset all in the Gigabit, remove every thing from the machine including the RAM, HDD's , PRAM battery and unplug all cables you can , hold CUDA down for 30 secs and reinstall your parts. Actually, it did end up being the firmware. It was still the original that I had gotten from the previous owner, which ran Tiger fine but Leopard wanted the 4.2.8 update found here: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120068 Installing from Mac Mini was fine, although I reinstalled it directly from the Power Mac using the hacked Open Firmware trick. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Problem inst of 10.5 on G4 tower
On Feb 9, 1:31 pm, Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com wrote: Problem inst of 10.5 on this: Tower may be sawtooth G4 450 MHz box with AGP Graphics on a card. 12 Gb hd 470 Mb, Zip, fd, DVD/cd Drive, all are Apple branded. will not let me. Was there a rule about speed or a way around it? You might want to stick with 10.4, and even for Tiger you should have more RAM. I put 10.5 on a Sawtooth with a dual 500 MHz (from a gig-e) and 2 GB RAM and it crawled along very slowly Leopard ran acceptably on my Digital Audio G4, dual 533 MHz and 1.5 GB RAM. There's a reason Apple put a minimum speed requirement. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Problem inst of 10.5 on G4 tower
Problem inst of 10.5 on this: Tower may be sawtooth G4 450 MHz box with AGP Graphics on a card. 12 Gb hd 470 Mb, Zip, fd, DVD/cd Drive, all are Apple branded. will not let me. Was there a rule about speed or a way around it? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Problem inst of 10.5 on G4 tower
Yes... 10.5 will not install on a G4 with less than an 867 MHz CPU. That said, you can fool the installer by going into Open Firmware and specifying 867 MHz as the processor speed. That will let the installer do its thing and then revert to the actual speed on reboot. It will run at lower speeds, but not install. Your Ram and HD size may be problematic... possibly. You can Google the process. It's early and I haven't had enough coffee to recall the steps. Amanda On 2/9/10 10:31 AM, Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com wrote: Problem inst of 10.5 on this: Tower may be sawtooth G4 450 MHz box with AGP Graphics on a card. 12 Gb hd 470 Mb, Zip, fd, DVD/cd Drive, all are Apple branded. will not let me. Was there a rule about speed or a way around it? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Problem inst of 10.5 on G4 tower
On Feb 9, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Jonas Lopez wrote: Problem inst of 10.5 on this: Tower may be sawtooth G4 450 MHz box with AGP Graphics on a card. 12 Gb hd 470 Mb, Zip, fd, DVD/cd Drive, all are Apple branded. will not let me. Was there a rule about speed or a way around it? Yes, you need LeopardAssist, http://sourceforge.net/projects/leopardassist/ -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Problem inst of 10.5 on G4 tower
I do this via CCC. Get the system on the machine then use migration Assittant to tranfer your stuff to the Leo. John Carmonne wtmm Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Problem inst of 10.5 on G4 tower
On Feb 9, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote: Was there a rule about speed or a way around it? Rule about speed = 867 MHz G4 CPU Way around: http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/33657 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 TOWER
It's attached to a sled. Remove the small screw that keeps the sled attached to the tower, then slide the sled and attached hard drive out of the tower. Put in in the other tower and screw the sled into the case. Sent from my cell phone Mike On Aug 10, 2009, at 8:53 PM, Bryan Roth rothwri...@yahoo.com wrote: OK, this is probably a really stupid question, but I just bought an old G4 tower (450 Mhz), and I was wondering how one removes the HD? (I actually bought two...one of which is the good one--but has no HD--the other one has a HD, but is otherwise inferior). I want to take the HD out of the one and install it in the other. I can't seem to see how the original factory-installed HD is fastened into the case--does it require a special tool to remove? Thanks...! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 TOWER
The drive is on a sled which slides downward and locks onto 3 pins on the case. There is a clutchplate on the left of the sled. Pull that toward you and push the entire sled upward. The whole drive jumps out quite suprisingly. Geoff b On 11 Aug 2009, at 3:41 AM, Fabian Fang wrote: On Aug 10, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Bryan Roth wrote: OK, this is probably a really stupid question, but I just bought an old G4 tower (450 Mhz), and I was wondering how one removes the HD? (I actually bought two...one of which is the good one--but has no HD--the other one has a HD, but is otherwise inferior). I want to take the HD out of the one and install it in the other. I can't seem to see how the original factory-installed HD is fastened into the case--does it require a special tool to remove? Here are Apple's CIP instructions with illustrations: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1815 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 TOWER
From: bla...@telkomsa.net Subject:Re: G4 TOWER Date: 11 August 2009 8:47:33 AM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com The drive is on a sled which slides downward and locks onto 3 pins on the case. There is a clutchplate on the left of the sled. Pull that toward you and push the entire sled upward. The whole drive jumps out quite suprisingly. On 11 Aug 2009, at 2:53 AM, Bryan Roth wrote: OK, this is probably a really stupid question, but I just bought an old G4 tower (450 Mhz), and I was wondering how one removes the HD? (I actually bought two...one of which is the good one--but has no HD--the other one has a HD, but is otherwise inferior). I want to take the HD out of the one and install it in the other. I can't seem to see how the original factory-installed HD is fastened into the case--does it require a special tool to remove? Thanks...! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 TOWER
Thanks so much, Geoff! After glancing at it, I just couldn't see how it was done, and didn't want to force anything...I appreciate it! --- On Tue, 8/11/09, Geoff Black bla...@telkomsa.net wrote: From: Geoff Black bla...@telkomsa.net Subject: Re: G4 TOWER To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 12:47 AM The drive is on a sled which slides downward and locks onto 3 pins on the case. There is a clutchplate on the left of the sled. Pull that toward you and push the entire sled upward. The whole drive jumps out quite suprisingly. Geoff b On 11 Aug 2009, at 3:41 AM, Fabian Fang wrote: On Aug 10, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Bryan Roth wrote: OK, this is probably a really stupid question, but I just bought an old G4 tower (450 Mhz), and I was wondering how one removes the HD? (I actually bought two...one of which is the good one--but has no HD--the other one has a HD, but is otherwise inferior). I want to take the HD out of the one and install it in the other. I can't seem to see how the original factory-installed HD is fastened into the case--does it require a special tool to remove? Here are Apple's CIP instructions with illustrations: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1815 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 TOWER
Geoff Black wrote: *From: * bla...@telkomsa.net mailto:bla...@telkomsa.net *Subject: * *Re: G4 TOWER* *Date: * 11 August 2009 8:47:33 AM *To: * g3-5-list@googlegroups.com mailto:g3-5-list@googlegroups.com The drive is on a sled which slides downward and locks onto 3 pins on the case. There is a clutchplate on the left of the sled. Pull that toward you and push the entire sled upward. The whole drive jumps out quite suprisingly. On 11 Aug 2009, at 2:53 AM, Bryan Roth wrote: OK, this is probably a really stupid question, but I just bought an old G4 tower (450 Mhz), and I was wondering how one removes the HD? (I actually bought two...one of which is the good one--but has no HD--the other one has a HD, but is otherwise inferior). I want to take the HD out of the one and install it in the other. I can't seem to see how the original factory-installed HD is fastened into the case--does it require a special tool to remove? Your 450 G4 must be different then everyone elses. Most 450 G4s have a metal tray/sled. Remove IDE connector and you will find a philips screw. The back of the sled fits into slots on bottom of case. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 TOWER
Same basic principle but with lockscrew. I am from Johannesburg S. Africa our Macs are built in Cork - Ireland Maybye there's a diff? The lock screw is a good idea. On 11 Aug 2009, at 6:48 PM, Charles Lenington wrote: Your 450 G4 must be different then everyone elses. Most 450 G4s have a metal tray/sled. Remove IDE connector and you will find a philips screw. The back of the sled fits into slots on bottom of case. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
G4 TOWER
OK, this is probably a really stupid question, but I just bought an old G4 tower (450 Mhz), and I was wondering how one removes the HD? (I actually bought two...one of which is the good one--but has no HD--the other one has a HD, but is otherwise inferior). I want to take the HD out of the one and install it in the other. I can't seem to see how the original factory-installed HD is fastened into the case--does it require a special tool to remove? Thanks...! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 TOWER
On Aug 10, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Bryan Roth wrote: OK, this is probably a really stupid question, but I just bought an old G4 tower (450 Mhz), and I was wondering how one removes the HD? (I actually bought two...one of which is the good one--but has no HD--the other one has a HD, but is otherwise inferior). I want to take the HD out of the one and install it in the other. I can't seem to see how the original factory-installed HD is fastened into the case--does it require a special tool to remove? Here are Apple's CIP instructions with illustrations: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1815 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Headless G4 tower/server
Yeah I do it all the time On Jan 19, 2009, at 02:34 am, Dan A. Currie wrote: Jeffrey Engle wrote: If i turn on sharing in leopard (on any leopard compatible G4 tower), that's all I need to access a headless G4 tower? I don't think I need a keyboard/mouse plugged into it accept to boot it right?... then access from my laptop in the living room. Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback Let me know how that works for you. I was thinking along similar lines with my old Beige G3. Dan Currie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Headless G4 tower/server
On Jan 18, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: If i turn on sharing in leopard (on any leopard compatible G4 tower), that's all I need to access a headless G4 tower? I don't think I need a keyboard/mouse plugged into it accept to boot it right?... then access from my laptop in the living room. Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 Yup... that'll work just fine. I have a Sawtooth and DA running headless and access them from my iMac. I also connect to my Powerbook in the bedroom. It's not as smooth as sitting at the keyboard of each machine, but it works rather nicely just the same. Amanda --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Headless G4 tower/server
On Jan 19, 2009, at 5:44 AM, Amanda Ward wrote: On Jan 18, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: If i turn on sharing in leopard (on any leopard compatible G4 tower), that's all I need to access a headless G4 tower? I don't think I need a keyboard/mouse plugged into it accept to boot it right?... then access from my laptop in the living room. Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 Yup... that'll work just fine. I have a Sawtooth and DA running headless and access them from my iMac. I also connect to my Powerbook in the bedroom. It's not as smooth as sitting at the keyboard of each machine, but it works rather nicely just the same. Amanda Are you running tiger on the sawtooth and DA? and if not, how did you get leopard to install? what's your experience so far with it. Thank you. Jeff Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Headless G4 tower/server
Jeff... On Jan 19, 2009, at 7:13 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: Are you running tiger on the sawtooth and DA? and if not, how did you get leopard to install? what's your experience so far with it. Thank you. Jeff Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 I'm running Leopard on both. The Sawtooth has a third-party 1.6 GHz CPU so there were no problems installing 10.5. The DA is a 733 and below the 867 cutoff, but I found a firmware tweak to fool the installer into believing the 733 is really an 867: http://lowendmac.com/osx/leopard/openfirmware.html The DA was never one of my main machines... ranks at the bottom of my active macs. Mostly I use it for network storage and crunching s...@home work-units. Still, when I use it directly for something, via screen sharing, the performance is adequate. Amanda Active Macs iMac, Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.4 GHz Sawtooth G4, 1.6 GHz Powerbook G4, 1.5 GHz Digital Audio G4, 733 MHz == Occasional Macs Gigabit Ethernet Dual G4, 450 MHz BW G3, G4/450 MHz CPU iMac G3, 333 MHz Powerbook G3, 266MHz ... and a couple o' halfway decent peecees. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Headless G4 tower/server
wow, thank you for the info!, just curious.. what did you have to pay foe the 1.6 cpu upgrade and was it simple to install? any problems encountered? Jeff On Jan 19, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Amanda Ward wrote: Jeff... On Jan 19, 2009, at 7:13 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: Are you running tiger on the sawtooth and DA? and if not, how did you get leopard to install? what's your experience so far with it. Thank you. Jeff Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 I'm running Leopard on both. The Sawtooth has a third-party 1.6 GHz CPU so there were no problems installing 10.5. The DA is a 733 and below the 867 cutoff, but I found a firmware tweak to fool the installer into believing the 733 is really an 867: http://lowendmac.com/osx/leopard/openfirmware.html The DA was never one of my main machines... ranks at the bottom of my active macs. Mostly I use it for network storage and crunching s...@home work-units. Still, when I use it directly for something, via screen sharing, the performance is adequate. Amanda Active Macs iMac, Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.4 GHz Sawtooth G4, 1.6 GHz Powerbook G4, 1.5 GHz Digital Audio G4, 733 MHz == Occasional Macs Gigabit Ethernet Dual G4, 450 MHz BW G3, G4/450 MHz CPU iMac G3, 333 MHz Powerbook G3, 266MHz ... and a couple o' halfway decent peecees. Paypal strongly preferred at: twoapplen...@gmail.com Ships from: Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Headless G4 tower/server
On Jan 19, 2009, at 8:41 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: wow, thank you for the info!, just curious.. what did you have to pay foe the 1.6 cpu upgrade and was it simple to install? any problems encountered? Jeff It's been a while, but I =think= it was $239 at OWC. It was a PowerLogix brand. Of course I =had= to have it right away and paid for next morning shipping! ;-) No... it wasn't hard at all. The only small problem was I had to take the fan guard off the heat sink to get to the mounting screws on the new CPU. In summary... Remove the two heatsink clips and heatsink on the old CPU. Remove three mounting screws. Lift off the old CPU. Line up and connect the new CPU. Install three mounting screws. Find a power connector for the cooling fan. Close him up. Power on. Blast off! The only caveat, I think, is there could possibly be a firmware issue, but the more experienced folk lurking about could better address this. Amanda --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Headless G4 tower/server
If i turn on sharing in leopard (on any leopard compatible G4 tower), that's all I need to access a headless G4 tower? I don't think I need a keyboard/mouse plugged into it accept to boot it right?... then access from my laptop in the living room. Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Headless G4 tower/server
Jeffrey Engle wrote: If i turn on sharing in leopard (on any leopard compatible G4 tower), that's all I need to access a headless G4 tower? I don't think I need a keyboard/mouse plugged into it accept to boot it right?... then access from my laptop in the living room. Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback Let me know how that works for you. I was thinking along similar lines with my old Beige G3. Dan Currie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Sleep issue on G4 Tower
Anne Keller-Smith wrote: Hi - it has decided to have insomnia. Used to sleep really well. Sometimes it will sleep after a minute which is how I set it in Energy Saver. But the hard disk doesn't go to sleep. When I select sleep under the Apple Menu it wakes up after about 5 seconds. Any ideas? The fan broke once and so I am leery of letting it be awake with the fan running all the time. Anne Keller Smith Down to Earth Web Design G4 Quicksilver 733mHz Tower 896 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive, OS X 10.2.8 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.downtoearthweb.com I had sleep issues with a 450 mhz x2 G4 with 10.2.8. Somewhere in between 10.4.0 and 10.4.11 everything magically resolved. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Inexpensive CPU upgrade for G4 Tower (Gigabit Ethernet)
Someone gave me a G4 tower, because it occasionally does not start up at all. (The next time it does that, I'll be ready with my voltmeter to test the power supply, since that seems to be a likely cause). Since otherwise it seems to be working pretty well, I'm thinking about upgrading it from its original 400 MHz CPU. However, I don't think it's worth spending anything close to $100, and even OWC doesn't have anything for anywhere near $50. They do seem to buy old processors, so I figure someone somewhere must be selling (for instance) old CPU's for cheap. Which CPU's would work, and would I need to make any modifications? If I understand my Mac right, it has a 100 MHz bus. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Inexpensive CPU upgrade for G4 Tower (Gigabit Ethernet)
On Oct 13, 7:05 pm, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone gave me a G4 tower, because it occasionally does not start up at all. (The next time it does that, I'll be ready with my voltmeter to test the power supply, since that seems to be a likely cause). Since otherwise it seems to be working pretty well, I'm thinking about upgrading it from its original 400 MHz CPU. However, I don't think it's worth spending anything close to $100, and even OWC doesn't have anything for anywhere near $50. They do seem to buy old processors, so I figure someone somewhere must be selling (for instance) old CPU's for cheap. Which CPU's would work, and would I need to make any modifications? If I understand my Mac right, it has a 100 MHz bus. CPU manufactures will make their card specific to the machine. so you get the CPU that is specific to the machine. No modification is needed. just plug and play basicly. The Sawtooth and Gigabit Ethernet both take the same CPU. I got a Dual 500Mhz processor for around $35. I was able to use it on my Sawtooth and kept it when I converted my Sawtooth to a Gigabit Ethernet(replaced motheboard and power supply). I have had some problems with it not starting up. The cause was actually a loose CPU. Make sure that's seated well. Good Luck! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Inexpensive CPU upgrade for G4 Tower (Gigabit Ethernet)
It looks like this model only used CPU's up to 500 MHz, which would be a barely noticeable upgrade. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 Tower Wireless
On Sep 29, 2008, at 3:21 PM, Simon Royal wrote: If I am lucky it is one of the AGP 'Sawtooth' models with Airport slot and I can add my Airport card in. If not, if it is the original PCI 'Yikes' version and I don't have that luxury I need to look for USB or PCI alternatives. Does anyone know of any PC branded broadcom based PCI cards that work in a Mac, other than the Belkin F5D7001? I have searched Google and can't find anything else. Although the slot's connector is the same as a generic PCMCIA/CardBus connector, it is intended only for a gen-u-wine Airport card. The antenna for same is built into the case. The cheapest, best bet is a USB wireless. About $6, when on sale. Look for AirLink101 ... both the AWLL-3026 (ZyDas/Atheros) and the AWLL-3028 (RaLink) have both 10.3 and 10.4 drivers, and both companies' 10.4 drivers work on 10.5 just fine. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
