Re: Keyboards
Rick I have never had a problem with MAc keyboards and always found them to be of excellent build quality. I prefer the black ones that came with the iMac G3 (I have a DV model) over the white ones that came with the G4 range (like my eMac G4). The ones that come with the early Intel machines are pretty good. All of great build quality, although the black ones are much better and I am using one right now as I like it so much. There laptop keyboards of pretty top notch too. I have always found the PowerBook (pre-Aluminium) and iBooks (pre-G3) to be of excellent standard. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Oct 12 2008, Rick King wrote: Why is it that Mac stopped making decent keyboards and now sell utter crap? I just got done taking a hammer to yet another one of these worthless usb abortions Mac switched to. In the last year I have gone through at least 6. They just quit working. I worked with that one for some time. It started typing two's all by itself so I flipped it upside down and beat on it to make that stop. Then it starts in on 0's. Then the caps lock key quits and half the letters go. I unplug it, plug it back in. Reboot the whole machine. Even turning it upside down and pounding on the damn thing only does so much. Why did they ever stop making those nice ADB keyboards? Or a much better question would be why did the cheap bastards do away with the ADB port so they could save a buck a unit? I would have thought Apple would be above such Intel-like behavior. Intel hacked the cache in a P3 to save a buck and called it a Celeron. Winmodem riser cards. The list goes on. Everytime I sit in front of a Mac anymore and have to look at one of those USB keyboards it just pisses me off. Is there some way I can cheaply get a trusty old extended keyboard to work on this miserable usb interface? Most adapters I have seen cost 50 or more. I am this close to taking a hammer to the whole thing. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Keyboards
On Oct 12, 2008, at 4:28 AM, Rick King wrote: Why is it that Mac stopped making decent keyboards and now sell utter crap? I just got done taking a hammer to yet another one of these worthless usb abortions Mac switched to. In the last year I have gone through at least 6. They just quit working. I worked with that one for some time. It started typing two's all by itself so I flipped it upside down and beat on it to make that stop. Then it starts in on 0's. Then the caps lock key quits and half the letters go. I unplug it, plug it back in. Reboot the whole machine. Even turning it upside down and pounding on the damn thing only does so much. Why did they ever stop making those nice ADB keyboards? Or a much better question would be why did the cheap bastards do away with the ADB port so they could save a buck a unit? I would have thought Apple would be above such Intel-like behavior. Intel hacked the cache in a P3 to save a buck and called it a Celeron. Winmodem riser cards. The list goes on. Everytime I sit in front of a Mac anymore and have to look at one of those USB keyboards it just pisses me off. Is there some way I can cheaply get a trusty old extended keyboard to work on this miserable usb interface? Most adapters I have seen cost 50 or more. I am this close to taking a hammer to the whole thing. My first Apple USB keyboard, a clear, extended Pro model, came from a dumpster at a nearby university. From the stickiness of the keys it seemed obvious that a sugary soda was spilled or perhaps purposefully poured into the keyboard? I found disassembly instructions with photos on the web, and I spent four hours disassembling the entire keyboard. It was difficult, I think there were at least 40 screws, and all the separate keys, etc. The contacts are gold, and there are those standard urethane rubber sheets that make the electronic connection beneath the keys. Two or three of the contacts had corrosion on the gold. I had no conductive trace paint to repair it. I just cleaned it really good, and hoped what was remaining of the gold would be enough. That was about 5 years ago. I use the keyboard every day without any issues at all. I was expecting it to fail at any moment, and so far, not a single problem. I'm typing on it now. I'd suggest not man-handling your keyboards so much. I've never banged on mine, or done anything harsh to it. If it started auto-repeating 2's or whatever, I'd get another keyboard to use. Going through six keyboards in one year surely must place you about six standard deviations from the mean. I will agree that the ADB keyboards are bombproof and probably better. A quick search of eBay for ADB USB adapter under Completed Items shows that the cheapest one sold for $16.76 shipped, five sold for under $20 shipped, and seven more for under $30 shipped. Several in the $25 range shipped were Buy It Now for new items. Place a search with email notification and you'll know instantly when another becomes available. If you adore the ADB keyboard, buy an adapter. With a dozen selling for less than $30 in the past month, it shouldn't take you long to snag one cheaply enough. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need big LCD monitor recommendation for G5
On Oct 12, 2008, at 1:07 AM, Tom wrote: I just bought a G5 2.0 dual core off Ebay, and the 23 Apple Cinema Display that I've been using with my G4 Quicksilver won't connect to it, because the monitor has an ADC connector, and the G5 has only DVI ports (I know Apple has a converter cable, but they want $100 for it). I have a Quicksilver (with an ATI Radeon 9800Pro) ... if you're giving away that Cinema ... I have room for it in my studio ... Oh ... you might consider getting another video card with correct connectors for the Cinema ... As much as I hate giving up a freebee ... Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where did the Speed Go?
Thanks for the tip... Great little service site, I going to link my business web site to it as a value added service to my clients Yours Richard Ramsowr Principle Genesis\Fusion --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
iTunes library / database suggestion?
I went looking for a cataloguing app for my audio files that would create a simple database that would list Artist - Album - Track - Song (possibly Year - Bitrate - Notes) and various interviews and radio shows with information to be determined, without the need to play the files within the database. I ended up back at iTunes, somewhat reluctantly. I don't want one big Library that includes every sound file so I'm creating multiple Libraries. However, some of my existing Libraries currently has Podcasts in them and I would like to move all the Podcasts to the same Library without needing to download the files again for that new Library to see the actual files. When I physically move the various folders into the new Podcast Library, the new Library can't see the files, and resubscribing to the feeds still isn't seeing the existing podcasts. iTunes still wants me to download the files again. Is there a way around this? Is there a database app that would take the files as named (Artist-Year-Album-Track-Song) and allow me to choose how to look at what's in the database, ie if I wanted to know how many times I left my heart in San Antonio appears in the database, and from there which Artists and on which Albums? I don't need the ability to play a file from within the database itself. I currently use DiskTracker to catalogue some disks but it doesn't allow for re-ordering of individual items within a disc. Steve R -- Reopen NAFTA. Reclaim our sovereignty. http://www.straightgoods.ca/ViewFeature8.cfm?REF=333 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Keyboards
At 2:28 AM -0700 10/12/08, Rick King posted: Why is it that Mac stopped making decent keyboards and now sell utter crap? I just got done taking a hammer to yet another one of these worthless usb abortions Mac switched to. In the last year I have gone through at least 6. They just quit working. I worked with that one for some time. It started typing two's all by itself so I flipped it upside down and beat on it to make that stop. Then it starts in on 0's. Then the caps lock key quits and half the letters go. I unplug it, plug it back in. Reboot the whole machine. Rick, I feel your pain and your frustration. I quit using Apple keyboards when they went USB. The feel wasn't right for typing, not like the basic ADB keyboard on my P475. I bought a Macally USB to replace the Apple one that came with the iMac 350. When I got the iMac 500 and was using both computers, I got used to unplugging/plugging because even their updated KB felt like crap. When I bought the G5 used, it came with a white keyboard that just doesn't work for me -- the key action is crap compared to the Macally. So whenever I need to work on any of the three, the Macally comes with me. I take the board apart several times a year to wash it down with a toothbrush. Keeps on tickin' Take a lickin' -- until this latest 10.5 Security Update when the keys started repeating and not stopping. I end up crawling under the desk to unplug it. I thought it might be age, dirt, contacts -- cleaned and checked. Still it sporadically repeats the number keys. It's probably time for a new keyboard, because I won't be using any of the 3 USBs I have sitting on shelves in case I sell or give away the older computers. Out of curiosity, did you start out typing on a typewriter? I started with manuals, advanced to electric and believe the reason I like the ADBs and the Macally is because their key action feels more natural to me. Steve R -- Reopen NAFTA. Reclaim our sovereignty. http://www.straightgoods.ca/ViewFeature8.cfm?REF=333 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need big LCD monitor recommendation for G5
I have a Quicksilver (with an ATI Radeon 9800Pro) ... if you're giving away that Cinema ... I have room for it in my studio ... Oh ... you might consider getting another video card with correct connectors for the Cinema ... As much as I hate giving up a freebee ... Bill Connelly artsite:http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace:http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio Well, as much as I'd like to move everything into the new G5 and set the G4 out to pasture, I'm dragging along so much old hardware baggage from the past, like that ADC Cinema Display, that the G4 will have to go into a sort of active retirement to continue running some of it. The G5 just can't take it all on. For example, I was naive enough to think that I could just buy a PCIx SCSI card for the G5 and keep running my high-end Minolta Dimage film scanner with it (scans both medium format and 35mm), but no such luck. SCSI has apparently been practically discarded from desktop computing. I take a look at OWC and find out that SCSI cards for G5s are in the $400 range, rare and exotic beasts with prices to match. So, instead of being discarded, the old Quicksilver will probably have to be set off in a corner somewhere hooked up to this 24 Cinema Display and running the Minolta film scanner, plus an old Relysis SCSI flatbed scanner with a glass bed big enough to scan maps and things, and who knows what else around here that the G5 can't run. The scans from the G4 will have to be brought over to the G5 in a flash drive or something. (Sigh.) Just can't afford to upgrade everything all at once. Still looking for an affordable non-Apple 22-24 LCD monitor for the G5 that is comparable in visual quality to a Cinema Display. If no such thing exists, I'll just have to buy that $100 Apple adapter to make the old ADC Cinema Display work with the G5. Then the G4 will get one of the old CRT monitors still sitting around here to use with the scanners etc. Upgrading computers is such a hassle. . . Tom --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need big LCD monitor recommendation for G5
The two 22 LCDs I've worked with the most are the two that I'd recommend: Samsung SyncMaster 226bw ViewSonic VX2245wm My favorite LCD vendors are Samsung and ViewSonic. I highly recommend both of them. On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Quicksilver (with an ATI Radeon 9800Pro) ... if you're giving away that Cinema ... I have room for it in my studio ... Oh ... you might consider getting another video card with correct connectors for the Cinema ... As much as I hate giving up a freebee ... Bill Connelly artsite:http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace:http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio Well, as much as I'd like to move everything into the new G5 and set the G4 out to pasture, I'm dragging along so much old hardware baggage from the past, like that ADC Cinema Display, that the G4 will have to go into a sort of active retirement to continue running some of it. The G5 just can't take it all on. For example, I was naive enough to think that I could just buy a PCIx SCSI card for the G5 and keep running my high-end Minolta Dimage film scanner with it (scans both medium format and 35mm), but no such luck. SCSI has apparently been practically discarded from desktop computing. I take a look at OWC and find out that SCSI cards for G5s are in the $400 range, rare and exotic beasts with prices to match. So, instead of being discarded, the old Quicksilver will probably have to be set off in a corner somewhere hooked up to this 24 Cinema Display and running the Minolta film scanner, plus an old Relysis SCSI flatbed scanner with a glass bed big enough to scan maps and things, and who knows what else around here that the G5 can't run. The scans from the G4 will have to be brought over to the G5 in a flash drive or something. (Sigh.) Just can't afford to upgrade everything all at once. Still looking for an affordable non-Apple 22-24 LCD monitor for the G5 that is comparable in visual quality to a Cinema Display. If no such thing exists, I'll just have to buy that $100 Apple adapter to make the old ADC Cinema Display work with the G5. Then the G4 will get one of the old CRT monitors still sitting around here to use with the scanners etc. Upgrading computers is such a hassle. . . Tom -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we're all damaged. - Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Nashville, Tennessee USA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Upgrading a 1GHz MDD
Hello all Is there a CPU upgrade route that's not too expensive? Or maybe a graphics upgrade? I've upped the RAM to 1.5GB and I have extra USB cards, an Airport card as well as filling the HDD bays and installing a DVD writer Currently running latest Leopard Regards Ian -- Do your ears a favour: www.radioparadise.com Find A Better Way Of Life: www.marillion.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mirroring... Why?
On Oct 11, 2008, at 2:51 PM, Simon Royal wrote: What is the point of this? The only thing I can see is if the main display fails. For hooking to a projector, so you can see what your audience is. That's what 90% of people use an external video output for. -- Bruce Johnson U of Az College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions don't have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need big LCD monitor recommendation for G5
Here's a helpful site that discuss the differences between monitors: http://www.pchardwarehelp.com/guides/s-ips-lcd-list.php So, I'll ask for advice from users of different monitors here. What brand offers a good LCD in the 22-24 size with a crisp, sharp picture, good viewing angles, fast response time etc. that would be comparable to an Apple Cinema Display, and be just as good for video editing in Final Cut and digital photo work in Photoshop? Any recommendations, caveats, or comments would be appreciated. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need big LCD monitor recommendation for G5
On Oct 12, 12:11 pm, Robert MacLeay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a helpful site that discuss the differences between monitors:http://www.pchardwarehelp.com/guides/s-ips-lcd-list.php Thanks Robert! I'll check that site out. He's got information there about monitor brands I never even heard of, like DoubleSight, Hazro, and LG. He says that the best picture quality comes from LCDs manufactured with an IPS based panel. Now I have to learn what IPS is. . . Thanks again, Tom --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need big LCD monitor recommendation for G5
Both of those displays look like great deals, and I'd suggest the T220. Both are similar to the ones I've worked with. On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 12, 12:05 pm, Alex Smith (K4RNT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The two 22 LCDs I've worked with the most are the two that I'd recommend: Samsung SyncMaster 226bw ViewSonic VX2245wm My favorite LCD vendors are Samsung and ViewSonic. I highly recommend both of them. Thanks for the recommendation Alex. Costco has this Samsung http:// tinyurl.com/4p5o47 for $229 and this one http://tinyurl.com/4b9wve for $259. They appear nearly identical. Which one is most like the one you've had good experience with? Then there's this even bigger 25.5 Samsung http://tinyurl.com/4seaol for $479, 2 inches larger than the others (for about $100 per additional inch!). Any knowledge of that one? Good grief, look at all the big monitors available at just this one store, Costco: http://tinyurl.com/4dccn5, and that's just one page of several! Surely there's something among all these that is comparable in visual quality to an Apple Cinema Display? Anyway, thanks again for the advice. I'll look first at the Samsungs, then. The advantage with a place like Costco is, if you buy one and then decide it isn't up to snuff, you can take it back. Tom -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we're all damaged. - Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Nashville, Tennessee USA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need big LCD monitor recommendation for G5
On Oct 12, 2008, at 2:01 PM, Tom wrote:. So, instead of being discarded, the old Quicksilver will probably have to be set off in a corner somewhere hooked up to this 24 Cinema Display and running the Minolta film scanner, plus an old Relysis SCSI flatbed scanner with a glass bed big enough to scan maps and things, and who knows what else around here that the G5 can't run. The scans from the G4 will have to be brought over to the G5 in a flash drive or something. (Sigh.) Just can't afford to upgrade everything all at once. I have all my Macs connected via a Westell 327W router and DSL connection. That way, I can transfer data between them as well as access the net. One has all my SCSI externals as well as my USB 2 scanner. Sounds similar ... along with a Compaq Presario CRT. The others have Sony flatscreen CRTs. No help with the LCD ones, except my partner likes his NEC 17. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need big LCD monitor recommendation for G5
I have all my Macs connected via a Westell 327W router and DSL connection. That way, I can transfer data between them as well as access the net. One has all my SCSI externals as well as my USB 2 scanner. Sounds similar ... along with a Compaq Presario CRT. The others have Sony flatscreen CRTs. No help with the LCD ones, except my partner likes his NEC 17. Bill Connelly artsite:http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace:http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio Yes, a router may be the route (pun intended) to go with moving information between Macs, but I know nothing about routers, yet. As far as DSL, that's how I'm connected to the Internet, I know that. I'll have to look into routers, then, and thanks for the suggestion. Costco has this Dell 22 LCD for $300 http://tinyurl.com/3h7axx that I'll also check into, since your partner likes his. BTW I have an art studio too, at http://tinyurl.com/3do92l, and YouTube art videos such as http://tinyurl.com/6e698m. Thanks for the router and monitor advice! Tom Tom --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need big LCD monitor recommendation for G5
On Oct 12, 12:05 pm, Alex Smith (K4RNT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The two 22 LCDs I've worked with the most are the two that I'd recommend: Samsung SyncMaster 226bw ViewSonic VX2245wm My favorite LCD vendors are Samsung and ViewSonic. I highly recommend both. Good grief, look at this huge ViewSonic: http://tinyurl.com/542k5y for $550. That's a little more than I wanted to spend, though, and it appears not to have a DVI connector (I don't know what HDMI with HDCP is, but it doesn't have the letters DVI in it). Tom --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need big LCD monitor recommendation for G5
Tom wrote: I have a Quicksilver (with an ATI Radeon 9800Pro) ... if you're giving away that Cinema ... I have room for it in my studio ... Oh ... you might consider getting another video card with correct connectors for the Cinema ... As much as I hate giving up a freebee ... Bill Connelly artsite:http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace:http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio Well, as much as I'd like to move everything into the new G5 and set the G4 out to pasture, I'm dragging along so much old hardware baggage from the past, like that ADC Cinema Display, that the G4 will have to go into a sort of active retirement to continue running some of it. The G5 just can't take it all on. For example, I was naive enough to think that I could just buy a PCIx SCSI card for the G5 and keep running my high-end Minolta Dimage film scanner with it (scans both medium format and 35mm), but no such luck. SCSI has apparently been practically discarded from desktop computing. I take a look at OWC and find out that SCSI cards for G5s are in the $400 range, rare and exotic beasts with prices to match. So, instead of being discarded, the old Quicksilver will probably have to be set off in a corner somewhere hooked up to this 24 Cinema Display and running the Minolta film scanner, plus an old Relysis SCSI flatbed scanner with a glass bed big enough to scan maps and things, and who knows what else around here that the G5 can't run. The scans from the G4 will have to be brought over to the G5 in a flash drive or something. (Sigh.) Just can't afford to upgrade everything all at once. Still looking for an affordable non-Apple 22-24 LCD monitor for the G5 that is comparable in visual quality to a Cinema Display. If no such thing exists, I'll just have to buy that $100 Apple adapter to make the old ADC Cinema Display work with the G5. Then the G4 will get one of the old CRT monitors still sitting around here to use with the scanners etc. Upgrading computers is such a hassle. . . Tom I bought a Samsung 22 a little over two years ago and have been very satisfied. It came with all the cables/connectors for most applications. Best of all, it was plug and play period. And this was for an ancient Gigabit G4 that I bought new in early 2001. No reason to pay high Apple prices. JT --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need big LCD monitor recommendation for G5
Tom wrote: On Oct 12, 12:05 pm, Alex Smith (K4RNT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The two 22 LCDs I've worked with the most are the two that I'd recommend: Samsung SyncMaster 226bw ViewSonic VX2245wm My favorite LCD vendors are Samsung and ViewSonic. I highly recommend both. Good grief, look at this huge ViewSonic: http://tinyurl.com/542k5y for $550. That's a little more than I wanted to spend, though, and it appears not to have a DVI connector (I don't know what HDMI with HDCP is, but it doesn't have the letters DVI in it). Tom My Samsung SyncMaster 225 cost about $375 over two years ago from Newegg. The successors which are better cost at least $100 less these days. Besides, if you ever put a Viewsonic next to a Samsung, there's no comparison. Doesn't Samsung still make most of Apple's monitors? Didn't Apple sink $100 million into Samsung awhile back? Just my half cents worth... JT --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need big LCD monitor recommendation for G5
On Oct 12, 2008, at 3:46 PM, RediG3-5 wrote: On Oct 12, 12:12 pm, James E. Therrault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom wrote: On Oct 12, 12:05 pm, Alex Smith (K4RNT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The two 22 LCDs I've worked with the most are the two that I'd recommend: Samsung SyncMaster 226bw ViewSonic VX2245wm My favorite LCD vendors are Samsung and ViewSonic. I highly recommend both. We just purchased a NOC (I guess that's an N) 2219S-1 from Circuit City. It measure 12 h x 19 w and diagonal 23. My wife likes it as it's a big improvement over here iBook screen. But those proportions seem like they are made for HD TV. The images are elongated and I can't figure how to set it for correction. My 17 Dell (10.5 x 13) is more normal and I like it a lot. Anyway, comments on this proportion matter might be enlightening and it's something to consider. Cliff Not nitpicking Cliff, but I think that might be AOC. I could be wrong though. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need big LCD monitor recommendation for G5
On Oct 12, 12:12 pm, James E. Therrault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom wrote: On Oct 12, 12:05 pm, Alex Smith (K4RNT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The two 22 LCDs I've worked with the most are the two that I'd recommend: Samsung SyncMaster 226bw ViewSonic VX2245wm My favorite LCD vendors are Samsung and ViewSonic. I highly recommend both. We just purchased a NOC (I guess that's an N) 2219S-1 from Circuit City. It measure 12 h x 19 w and diagonal 23. My wife likes it as it's a big improvement over here iBook screen. But those proportions seem like they are made for HD TV. The images are elongated and I can't figure how to set it for correction. My 17 Dell (10.5 x 13) is more normal and I like it a lot. Anyway, comments on this proportion matter might be enlightening and it's something to consider. Cliff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need big LCD monitor recommendation for G5
My Samsung SyncMaster 225 cost about $375 over two years ago from Newegg. The successors which are better cost at least $100 less these days. Besides, if you ever put a Viewsonic next to a Samsung, there's no comparison. Doesn't Samsung still make most of Apple's monitors? Didn't Apple sink $100 million into Samsung awhile back? Just my half cents worth... JT Thanks JT. The votes seem to be piling up for Samsung. I'll try that brand first. I think both Sam's Club and Costco have them. Does Samsung really make the Apple monitors, does anyone know? Tom --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need big LCD monitor recommendation for G5
My 17 Dell (10.5 x 13) is more normal and I like it a lot .. . . Cliff Thanks for the info Cliff. Several big Dells are available too, but I'll try Samsung first, since the consensus seems to be that they are excellent monitors. I did read some complaints that the viewing angles of the Samsungs are pretty narrow, though, meaning (I guess) that you need to look at them straight-on, and not slightly to one side, or the image is degraded, although if you sit right in front of your monitor I don't see why that should be a big problem. Video editing (Final Cut) may require a fast response time to avoid ghosting of moving images, I understand, so if it's a toss-up between two monitors, the fastest response time may break the tie. And of course Photoshop work on digital photos and things requires good accurate color. So many variables. . . Tom --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need big LCD monitor recommendation for G5
RediG3-5 wrote: On Oct 12, 12:12 pm, James E. Therrault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom wrote: On Oct 12, 12:05 pm, Alex Smith (K4RNT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The two 22 LCDs I've worked with the most are the two that I'd recommend: Samsung SyncMaster 226bw ViewSonic VX2245wm My favorite LCD vendors are Samsung and ViewSonic. I highly recommend both. We just purchased a NOC (I guess that's an N) 2219S-1 from Circuit City. It measure 12 h x 19 w and diagonal 23. My wife likes it as it's a big improvement over here iBook screen. But those proportions seem like they are made for HD TV. The images are elongated and I can't figure how to set it for correction. My 17 Dell (10.5 x 13) is more normal and I like it a lot. Anyway, comments on this proportion matter might be enlightening and it's something to consider. Cliff There should be no change of aspect ratio of items on ths screen. And yes, all new displays are 16:9 which very closely equals the 185 format of theatrical release motion pictures. If you're seeing things stretched, something is wrong with settings. Like I said, my Samsung played right out of the box at 1680x1050. Make sure that your settings reflect the 16:9 format. JT --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need big LCD monitor recommendation for G5
Tom wrote: My 17 Dell (10.5 x 13) is more normal and I like it a lot .. . . Cliff Thanks for the info Cliff. Several big Dells are available too, but I'll try Samsung first, since the consensus seems to be that they are excellent monitors. I did read some complaints that the viewing angles of the Samsungs are pretty narrow, though, meaning (I guess) that you need to look at them straight-on, and not slightly to one side, or the image is degraded, although if you sit right in front of your monitor I don't see why that should be a big problem. Video editing (Final Cut) may require a fast response time to avoid ghosting of moving images, I understand, so if it's a toss-up between two monitors, the fastest response time may break the tie. And of course Photoshop work on digital photos and things requires good accurate color. So many variables. . . Tom My monitor gives good results when viewing head on or up to 40° from either side. OTOH, viewing gets much more critical when looking down, (such as standing up), which is a typical property of backlit screens. In the future, LED monitors promise to end that but their cost is prohibitive at this time... JT --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where did the Speed Go?
At 12:17 PM -0400 10/12/2008, insightinmind wrote: This is what verizon told me last night: if you have 2 computers using the same verizon DSL connection, Verizon will cut your speed in half. Sorry. I don't buy it. I know how Verizon's network works. They DO NOT reduce customer caps because they have more than one computer. EVER. There are a myriad of reasons for poor throughput, all of which have specific solutions. It just takes some effort to diagnose it. Did you get any sort of ticket number from Verizon when you called? If you can provide, I can forward it to a local manager who can have that person corrected then initiate whatever investigation toward your difficulty is necessary. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mirroring... Why?
At 10:51 PM +0100 10/11/2008, Simon Royal wrote: What is the point of [Mirroring]? A friend of mine does the mirror thing all the time with both his PB and his iMac. The external monitor is much sharper than the built-in display, and has MUCH better color reproduction. He's able to use it at its highest resolution, and still read fine print. He cannot do that with the built-in screens. They're just too soft and fuzzy for his eyes. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Large Drives
Average user + family(2teenager with own Itunes iphoto)= 80gb original 65gb used 160gb external 120 used 300gb internal about 200gb used I am looking hard at the terabyte to replace the original 80. Jeff Bequette [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Oct 11, 2008, at 5:25 PM, Dan wrote: At 10:39 PM +0100 10/11/2008, Simon Royal wrote: What does the average user do with all that space? Data is like GAS. It expands to fill all available space! Who actually uses 1000GB? Then you have the question of backing up. The larger the storage the larger the back up needed. Backup volumes, movies, music, photo video editing, databases, starcharts, Mach5 plans... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need big LCD monitor recommendation for G5
Still researching big monitors. I'll be doing Photoshop and Final Cut work, and it appears that not everybody is happy with the T-series Samsungs for such purposes. It appears that the T stands for twisted nematic (TN) LCD, and these are considered by many to be lower quality and for non-critical color work such as gaming, since they are impossible to calibrate and the colors are said to shift with slight changes in viewing angle. Mind you, this is just what I'm reading, I don't have any personal experience with any other LCD display than my old Apple Cinema Display. Whether or not these reported color problems would be noticeable to me, I don't know yet. But reviews like this one on Amazon on the T-series Samsungs are a little worrisome for somebody wanting to to precision Photoshop and Final Cut work: http://tinyurl.com/4xozwn. I think I need to get out and really look at some of these Samsungs, or bring one home and try it out. Many Mac users appear to be really happy with them. Tom --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need big LCD monitor recommendation for G5
If color accuracy is *that* important to you, and price is an issue, look on eBay for Eizo LCDs. Eizo makes displays for professional users, like medical imaging and such. They manufacture their LCDs with color accuracy and precision being the premiums. http://www.eizo.com/ If price isn't an issue, look at the ViewSonic Graphic series: http://www.viewsonic.com/products/lcddisplays/ On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still researching big monitors. I'll be doing Photoshop and Final Cut work, and it appears that not everybody is happy with the T-series Samsungs for such purposes. It appears that the T stands for twisted nematic (TN) LCD, and these are considered by many to be lower quality and for non-critical color work such as gaming, since they are impossible to calibrate and the colors are said to shift with slight changes in viewing angle. Mind you, this is just what I'm reading, I don't have any personal experience with any other LCD display than my old Apple Cinema Display. Whether or not these reported color problems would be noticeable to me, I don't know yet. But reviews like this one on Amazon on the T-series Samsungs are a little worrisome for somebody wanting to to precision Photoshop and Final Cut work: http://tinyurl.com/4xozwn. I think I need to get out and really look at some of these Samsungs, or bring one home and try it out. Many Mac users appear to be really happy with them. -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we're all damaged. - Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Nashville, Tennessee USA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---