Re: Bad Video Card?
On 02/02/2012 16:30, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: The flashing process does not involve soldering at all, but is accomplished by software on a PC... -- ErrThat's not quite true Bruceflashing from PC to mac bios has always involved soldering since the introduction of rom locks on the Radeon cards. The hardware lock is achieved with tiny resistors and effectively blocks any flash larger than 64KB - PC size - whereas the mac rom is 128KB. In addition to the lock the SO8 8 pin soic bios chip itself - such as the ST brand M25P05 may only take 64KB of data max so to achieve a full mac rom flash it must be exchanged for a 128KB soic chip - the M25P10. Soic chip info http://themacelite.wikidot.com/rom-s Resistor lock info http://thomas.perrier.name/otherStuff/ati9800convertEN.html However - I doubt the card would get hot enough around the SO8 to smoulder any remaining flux. Pete - 62 years old today - I might scoff a beer or two later..I wonder how long I've been on the low end mac mail lists - is there a way to find out? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: pppd/mgetty question for dial-in access question.......
Thx Sent from my iPhone 4 On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jan 18, 2012, at 11:24 PM, Jesse St.John wrote: alright people here is a question, om a slacker so i get the rtfm and im used to saying it as well, however, this isnt a slack list it is a macosx list, so how can i, for instance, set up a dial-in with my leopard 10.5 ppc machine with a dial-up modem to receive calls and allow for a remote connection, from another computer without the use of a isp, or anything? its more to be of use to myself, so if i ever need access to something, even miniscule, its there... all i have to do is dial out to my home phone and connect. i have read a few ways, which if you dont have xcode(and i dont i dunno what happened there) are not happening. but they involve mgetty, and setting it up to anser the line like an answering machine only to let you dial in. is it possible or is it just not gonna happen? please some insight would be awesome... IIRC the developer tools (which includes XCode) are on your 10.5 disk. If not, you need to download it from Apple; at developer.apple.com. There's a package that claims to worl with NeXT and BSD, so might be adaptable to OS X here http://freecode.com/projects/pppd Good freakin' luck, you're going to need it! :-) Might be easier to hunt down an actual terminal server to do this, like this: http://www.ipcas.com/products/ppp-gateway.html or an old Shiva LanRover; here's one for $25 :http://shop.bizsyscon.com/shiva-lanrover-8e-8-port-remote-access-server/ We used one of these for years as our dial-in box for the college. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: new to the MAC universe.
That was weird, i posted a reply yesterday and it never got posted. anyhow here goes: The last part of my serial is MMA and according to that site you posted, it looks like my model is the dual proc 1.0 (not the FW800). Although it does have 2 firewire ports, i'm not sure what the differences are. it has only one cpu so i'm assuming when they say dual proc, they mean dual core. I picked up 4 sticks of 512mb ddr1 pc2700 yesterday from a company that recycles old electronic stuff(computers/washers/tvs) Also picked up 2 scsi 1rpm 147gb hd's as well. Everything was $30 but i'm not sure the hd's work. If anyone in the GreaterTorontoArea looking for memory, you could send me an email and i'll forward the company info. Hoping to use these hard drives as the Mac has a pci scsi adapter card installed, although upon closer inspection it looks like the scsi connection is on the outside so it might be for a scanner or something. So with the proper memory the system boots up fine and i'm able to get to main os. I believe the os installed is 10.2. I do have one problem with the system though. When I shut the Mac down from the os, it does not turn on when I press the power button, I have to unplug the power cord from the back and reattach, then it powers on. Any suggestions I may try, I'm afraid it might be a power supply problem. Right now i'm trying to use a regular usb keyboard and I can't figure out the option key, some sites say to use the windows button but it doesn't seem to work with my keyboards (i've tried 3) Oh, I was trying to clear the PRAM, i've tried (c), tried (CROP), but never got the 2 chimes so i'm not sure the keyboards can use the command key. How cool is the case design on these G4's, one lever opens the whole tower. I know this is an old case but even todays pc cases aren't so user friendly. Thanks for your help guys - hope this message goes through -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: new to the MAC universe.
On Feb 3, 2012, at 7:40 AM, fickit1time wrote: That was weird, i posted a reply yesterday and it never got posted. anyhow here goes: The last part of my serial is MMA and according to that site you posted, it looks like my model is the dual proc 1.0 (not the FW800). Although it does have 2 firewire ports, i'm not sure what the differences are. it has only one cpu so i'm assuming when they say dual proc, they mean dual core. No they meant dual-processor. There were no dual-core PowerPC cpus ever used in Macs. This one may have had it's cpu board replaced. Under the Apple select 'About this Mac' then click on the More Info button. That'll bring up 'System PRofiler' click on the 'Hardware' head and copy and paste the info therein into an email, that'll help us ID the Mac you have. FW 400 ports have one side that comes to a rough point. FW 800 ports are rectangular. Just found this neat little site: http://tinyurl.com/6m5y2x8 So with the proper memory the system boots up fine and i'm able to get to main os. I believe the os installed is 10.2. This one should run up to OS X 10.5 without any hassles, 10.2 is quite old and there'sa lot of stuff liek modern browsers and such that is not compatible. I do have one problem with the system though. When I shut the Mac down from the os, it does not turn on when I press the power button, I have to unplug the power cord from the back and reattach, then it powers on. Any suggestions I may try, I'm afraid it might be a power supply problem. Try clearing the PRAM: press command-option-p-r during startup until it 'bongs' again. Might need to get a real Mac keyboard for that. Try replacing the PRAM battery, it's the 1/2aa 3.6V Lithium cell on the mobo; they're pretty readily available, even radio shack carries 'em. When those get low you run into odd issues like this, and I'll wager the one in there is original. Right now i'm trying to use a regular usb keyboard and I can't figure out the option key, some sites say to use the windows button but it doesn't seem to work with my keyboards (i've tried 3) The option key and alt key are the same on my Mac keyboard; use the Windows key for the mac Command key. There are some third party applications to remap the two into the correct order (on the mac, from the left it's: control, option, command, spacebar, command, option, control. On a windows kb it's control, command, option, spacebar, option, command, control) Oh, I was trying to clear the PRAM, i've tried (c), tried (CROP), but never got the 2 chimes so i'm not sure the keyboards can use the command key. I know that older Macs didn't work with my newer Mac keyboard, so you might want to scrounge for a real mac kb. Fortunately the LEM google groups have a group for that, the LEM swaplist: http://lowendmac.com/lists/swap.html or try fleabay, craigslist or even your local freecycle group http://freecycle.org. How cool is the case design on these G4's, one lever opens the whole tower. Yes, it's amazing (Apple's been doing 'tool-less' cases since the early 90's and the advent of the Mac IIC) that no other manufactuerer has even tries copying them let along doing cool case designs of their own. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Bad Video Card?
On Feb 3, 3:12 am, pdimage pdim...@btinternet.com wrote: ErrThat's not quite true Bruceflashing from PC to mac bios has always involved soldering since the introduction of rom locks on the Radeon cards. The hardware lock is achieved with tiny resistors and effectively blocks any flash larger than 64KB - PC size - whereas the mac rom is 128KB. Resistor lock info http://thomas.perrier.name/otherStuff/ati9800convertEN.html However - I doubt the card would get hot enough around the SO8 to smoulder any remaining flux. Do you know if the X800 has the ROM lock feature. Thomas Perrier's site seems to be specific to the R9800. I have a few X800/X850s kicking around I've been meaning to convert. I thought all I'd need to do is replace the flash chip. If this ROM lock thing is on that card too, I can see where that would have been just an exercise in frustration. It's too bad that themacelite's forums went down. There was some great information in there. Do you know if there's an archive available? Jeff Walther -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Airport won't log in
On Sun 4:03 AM , Roger Faulkner rfaulkne...@gmail.com wrote: G4 Cube and Quicksilver. Both came with HD wiped and I installed 10.4. Neither had Airport cards. I ordered and installed cards in both and both recognized the network to join but showed an error message when trying to log in. I rechecked the password in my keychain but its not accepted by either unit. Thinking Id used defective cards, I bought and installed 2 different cards -- same result, neither the Cube nor Quicksilver would recognize the password. These units are designated for an underfunded school for developmentally disabled kids. The school is WiFi and theyll be useless unless I can find out what the problem might be. Yesterday I set up a Canon wireless printer from the same network and it works, while the G4s dont. Original Airport cards don't have support for WPA built in. But OS 10.4.something does provide it (as long as you updated to the latest 10.4 version, 10.4.11, you should be good). But 10.4.11 only supports WPA TKIP. It doesn't support WPA2 or AES. So check out the WiFi settings to see if WPA TKIP are enabled. I have seen some indications that there can be a problem if WPA2 and/or AES is enabled along with WPA and TKIP. Also it's possible that your WiFi doesn't support 802.11b, only 'g' and/or 'n'. The Original Airport cards are only 'b'. You could also get them connected using an external bridge device. There are dedicated devices that do this, some Apple Airport base stations (Airport Express at least) as well as some WiFi routers. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: new to the MAC universe.
On 2012/02/03 09:22, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: There were no dual-core PowerPC cpus ever used in Macs Except this one: PROCESSOR Processor PowerPC 970MP (G5) Processor Speed 2.0, 2.3, or dual 2.5 GHz Number of Cores 2 per processor Cache 64K (instruction), 32K (data) L1, 1MB L2 per core System Bus 1.0, 1.15, or dual 1.25 GHz For accuracy's sake, not to nit-pick. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: new to the MAC universe.
Weren;t the liquid-cooled G5 quads double dual-core? On Feb 3, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 3, 2012, at 7:40 AM, fickit1time wrote: That was weird, i posted a reply yesterday and it never got posted. anyhow here goes: The last part of my serial is MMA and according to that site you posted, it looks like my model is the dual proc 1.0 (not the FW800). Although it does have 2 firewire ports, i'm not sure what the differences are. it has only one cpu so i'm assuming when they say dual proc, they mean dual core. No they meant dual-processor. There were no dual-core PowerPC cpus ever used in Macs. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: new to the MAC universe.
On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:06 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2012/02/03 09:22, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: There were no dual-core PowerPC cpus ever used in Macs Except this one: PROCESSOR Processor PowerPC 970MP (G5) Processor Speed 2.0, 2.3, or dual 2.5 GHz Number of Cores 2 per processor Cache 64K (instruction), 32K (data) L1, 1MB L2 per core System Bus1.0, 1.15, or dual 1.25 GHz For accuracy's sake, not to nit-pick. Well, learn something every day. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: new to the MAC universe.
Il giorno 3-02-2012 17:22, Bruce Johnson ha scritto: This one should run up to OS X 10.5 without any hassles, 10.2 is quite old and there'sa lot of stuff liek modern browsers and such that is not compatible. Best option is probably 10.4. It's faster than 10.5 on old Macs, and it's compatible with most software, included TenFourFox (PPC version of Firefox). The option key and alt key are the same on my Mac keyboard; use the Windows key for the mac Command key. There are some third party applications to remap the two into the correct order Built-into OSX,, there's a preference for swapping Option and Command (or Alt and Windows) keys: (System) Preferences / Keyboard and mouse / Modifier keys. I know that older Macs didn't work with my newer Mac keyboard, so you might want to scrounge for a real mac kb. I have been using an USB Microsoft keyboard on my G4 and G5 (both in OS9 and OSX) and it works great. In OSX their driver enables all the special (media) keys as well. Although MS seems hating Macs, their hardware is usually cool. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
