Re: [Audyssey] blindness - Re: Announcement fromDraconisEntertainment
Would have to agree with Thomas on this one. Even as someone who was born basically blind I do have somewhat of a concept of what black is. And like Thomas said, that's probably the closest you would come to describing total blindness. I actually had a fun experience going caving with a camp I was volunteering at. The children were all blind as were some of the volunteers, and one of the activities we did once we reached the far back of the cave was for all the sighted people to turn their lights off and just stand there and try and look around. Complete pitch darkness is what they saw... which would be the closest thing you could ever come to experiencing blindness since caves are said to be one of the darkest places on Earth. If you were in a cave for a few weeks with no light and when you finally did come back out of it, you would remain blind because of the fact that your eyes no longer had use for light and would be used to blackness. At least, that was what the guide said... :P. As to portraying Space, I don't know how it could be done accurately in pure audio. I think Tom had a good idea, but in reality... you wouldn't be able to hear stars burning, or planets moving, since there is no air in space to move sound through. However, that would probably be the closest to portraying that vast void in audio. All those warblings and odd sounds so many space-related soundscapes provide is illogical and doesn't make sense. lol --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] blindness - Re: Announcement from DraconisEntertainment
not sure but the astros on the iss do say that colours from earth and other stars are sharper, though its everything seen as several points. I guess if you were a standard person and looked at space you would say black but then we can't see all of space aparently from the ground even with a scope there is probably some article round nasa but I have not needed to search this. At 12:42 a.m. 15/12/2012 -0600, you wrote: If a sighted person were to look into outer space, would they see blackness? Would it be like what I imagine? That would be a thick cloudy mass of darkness. I find this interesting. Another interesting thought: How would you portray the blackness of outer space in an audio game? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 12:17 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindness - Re: Announcement from DraconisEntertainment Hi Charles, To be honest I think this is a case of perspective. Someone born blind such as yourself has no concept of black or white so the absence of anything is simply blindness to you. Now, for myself I was sighted for many years before losing my vision, and although I can't see anything, including light, I would describe it as seeing black. Technically a doctor might say an absolute absence of color, but the closest I can compare my blindness to is the color black since there are no other colors to perceive. On 12/15/12, Charles Rivard wrote: I have been blind since birth. I do not see black or sense it. There is no sense of anything. It's sort of hard to describe. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] SPECIAL NEWS BULLETIN
Hello all, I am aware that my post went to the audyssey mailing list. Unfortunately, I did not know this until I saw the posts. You see, I sent out the letter to everyone in my e-mail contacts, and of course Audyssey is in my address book. I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. -Alfredo --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] SPECIAL NEWS BULLETIN
Hello all, I am aware that my post went to the audyssey mailing list. Unfortunately, I did not know this until I saw the posts. You see, I sent out the letter to everyone in my e-mail contacts, and of course Audyssey is in my address book. I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. -Alfredo --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] blindness - Re: Announcement from DraconisEntertainment
If a sighted person were to look into outer space, would they see blackness? Would it be like what I imagine? That would be a thick cloudy mass of darkness. I find this interesting. Another interesting thought: How would you portray the blackness of outer space in an audio game? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 12:17 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindness - Re: Announcement from DraconisEntertainment Hi Charles, To be honest I think this is a case of perspective. Someone born blind such as yourself has no concept of black or white so the absence of anything is simply blindness to you. Now, for myself I was sighted for many years before losing my vision, and although I can't see anything, including light, I would describe it as seeing black. Technically a doctor might say an absolute absence of color, but the closest I can compare my blindness to is the color black since there are no other colors to perceive. On 12/15/12, Charles Rivard wrote: I have been blind since birth. I do not see black or sense it. There is no sense of anything. It's sort of hard to describe. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] SPECIAL NEWS BULLETIN
As this list is not bombarded with such messages, and given the gravity of the tragedy, I personally have no problem with receiving this message, regardless of the source. The intent is what counts. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "Clement Chou" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] SPECIAL NEWS BULLETIN Well, considering the message is through, the moderators probably approve... and I don't mind seeing this. This should be shared on every list and social network possible. - Original Message - From: "Kai" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] SPECIAL NEWS BULLETIN I don't want to sound callous, but this is completely Off Topic. Tragedy and violence happens all the time, and my other forms of social media are bombarded with them, but surely my e-mail list dedicated to gaming shouldn't also play host to such discussions? Unless, of course, you verified this with the moderators first, in which case I will gladly apologize for my chastisement. Kai --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] blindness - Re: Announcement from Draconis Entertainment
I have been blind since birth. I do not see black or sense it. There is no sense of anything. It's sort of hard to describe. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Announcement from Draconis Entertainment Hi Shaun, Well, there is a good reason to associate the color black with blindness. Someone who is totally blind doesn't see any colors, and if you have to associate a color with that sensation it would be black which is the absence of all light. Being blind is the same as locking a sighted person in a closet with no light which would be pitch dark. On 12/14/12, shaun everiss wrote: True, but I can't see colour. People assume that we can just see black because I would imagine that this is what they associate with darkness. I know a lot of people don't even see light. I see light and shaddows of objects, ie cars, walls, etc depending on reflection of light and how bright it is. True colour via word associations do work but to see those well I don't or rather assume I don't. I probably do see black or at least white but can't recognise it. In an interesting note during some research I was doing for local uni I could see uv light but that was that. So whatever uv is I can assume I am able to see it even if I don't what I know what this is. same for darkness, I assume I can see black but don't associate darkness with anything. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] SPECIAL NEWS BULLETIN
I agree. I heard about it all day in class, and want nothing of it anymore. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] SPECIAL NEWS BULLETIN
I disagree. It has absolutely nothing to do with gaming. If I wanted news bulletins, I would subscribe to a news list. It is tragic, and horrible. But it does not belong on this list. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 14, 2012, at 5:03 PM, "Clement Chou" wrote: > Well, considering the message is through, the moderators probably approve... > and I don't mind seeing this. This should be shared on every list and social > network possible. > - Original Message - From: "Kai" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 2:31 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] SPECIAL NEWS BULLETIN > > >> I don't want to sound callous, but this is completely Off Topic. Tragedy and >> violence happens all the time, and my other forms of social media are >> bombarded with them, but surely my e-mail list dedicated to gaming shouldn't >> also play host to such discussions? Unless, of course, you verified this >> with the moderators first, in which case I will gladly apologize for my >> chastisement. >> >> Kai > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Announcement from Draconis Entertainment
True, but I can't see colour. People assume that we can just see black because I would imagine that this is what they associate with darkness. I know a lot of people don't even see light. I see light and shaddows of objects, ie cars, walls, etc depending on reflection of light and how bright it is. True colour via word associations do work but to see those well I don't or rather assume I don't. I probably do see black or at least white but can't recognise it. In an interesting note during some research I was doing for local uni I could see uv light but that was that. So whatever uv is I can assume I am able to see it even if I don't what I know what this is. same for darkness, I assume I can see black but don't associate darkness with anything. At 06:11 a.m. 14/12/2012 -0500, you wrote: Hi, colors are not meaningless to all blind people. Just saying. -- Raul A. Gallegos A hospital bed is a parked taxi with the meter running. - Groucho Marx Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 On 12/13/2012 9:38 AM, Charles Rivard wrote: On the other hand, colors are meaningless to a blind person. I can associate much better with a dollar, a quarter, and so on than I can with something that is red, blue, or green. And with a name like "change reaction" coin names are more appropriate. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 1:14 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Announcement from Draconis Entertainment ah, thanks bryan, I've never heard of that at all. As I said I'd actually appreciate some alternative coin names, perhaps just numbered tocans rather than the american ones which obviously I'm less familiar with, indeed to me, playing a tetris type game would be much more logical with coloured tocans such as blue red green and white all with unique values than with coins. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Announcement from Draconis Entertainment It probably also didn't help that the half-dollar was called a fitty in game. Not everyone knows that fitty is slang for fifty. On 12/12/2012 5:43 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Dark, Just for your information here is a quick rundown on American coins and there values. Penny: 1 cent Nickle: 5 cents Dime: 10 cents Quarter: 25 cents Half Dollar: 50 cents Silver Dollar: 1 Dollar Cheers! On 12/12/12, dark wrote: Hi. good news, I'm glad the engine is finished, I'll look forward to windows and Ios versions that I can try. I will admit I never really got change reaction, so I'll be interested to see if the audio hints help with the game when the windows version comes out, sinse it always seemed that you were just hearing a matching coin and just chucking away. The fact that the game also used american coinage which obviously me being in the Uk I'm not really familiar with in terms of it's value (I have heard of quarters, knickles and dimes before but have no idea what they're worth), didn't help, indeed you might considder an alternative for the names of coins, perhaps just giving their numerical value instead of the name for people who aren't used to Us money. You mention versions of the games for Ios. how different would they be in their control method? what I mean is, do you have any particular enhancements planned to take advantage of the touch screen qualities of voice over and other features of mobile devices like jyroscope to change the gameplay of the games significantly? i'd love for instance to see a version of whoopass where you punched by moving the device rapidly forward and blocked by turning it sideways. I'm especially looking forward to remakes or expantions of the pinball games, which to my mind are still some of the best arcade games available. all the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow.
Re: [Audyssey] SPECIAL NEWS BULLETIN
I agree with Kai, in that it's off topic and shouldn't be posted here. It has plenty of coverage elsewhere already, and it's all we're going to hear about for the next six months. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Clement Chou wrote: > Well, considering the message is through, the moderators probably approve... > and I don't mind seeing this. This should be shared on every list and social > network possible. > - Original Message - From: "Kai" > > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 2:31 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] SPECIAL NEWS BULLETIN > > > >> I don't want to sound callous, but this is completely Off Topic. Tragedy >> and violence happens all the time, and my other forms of social media are >> bombarded with them, but surely my e-mail list dedicated to gaming shouldn't >> also play host to such discussions? Unless, of course, you verified this >> with the moderators first, in which case I will gladly apologize for my >> chastisement. >> >> Kai --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] SPECIAL NEWS BULLETIN
Well, considering the message is through, the moderators probably approve... and I don't mind seeing this. This should be shared on every list and social network possible. - Original Message - From: "Kai" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] SPECIAL NEWS BULLETIN I don't want to sound callous, but this is completely Off Topic. Tragedy and violence happens all the time, and my other forms of social media are bombarded with them, but surely my e-mail list dedicated to gaming shouldn't also play host to such discussions? Unless, of course, you verified this with the moderators first, in which case I will gladly apologize for my chastisement. Kai --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] SPECIAL NEWS BULLETIN
I don't want to sound callous, but this is completely Off Topic. Tragedy and violence happens all the time, and my other forms of social media are bombarded with them, but surely my e-mail list dedicated to gaming shouldn't also play host to such discussions? Unless, of course, you verified this with the moderators first, in which case I will gladly apologize for my chastisement. Kai - Original Message - From: "Alfredo's Laptop computer" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 2:14 PM Subject: [Audyssey] SPECIAL NEWS BULLETIN Read Below: === [CNN] News of a shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, at an elementary school, where twenty-seven people, eighteen children died at the scene, two more died at the hospital, and six adults were killed, including the shooter. This has many people on edge, especially after five days of a shooting in Clacamas Town Centre. The president made a special address, and although he was very emotional, he made his message clear. We need to stop such tragedies from happening in the future. This is one of the most deadliest school shootings in United States history. [CNN] Please give a moment of silence to remember those who lost their innocent lives this morning. Ask yourself this question, although it might not be answered. Why? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] SPECIAL NEWS BULLETIN
Read Below: === [CNN] News of a shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, at an elementary school, where twenty-seven people, eighteen children died at the scene, two more died at the hospital, and six adults were killed, including the shooter. This has many people on edge, especially after five days of a shooting in Clacamas Town Centre. The president made a special address, and although he was very emotional, he made his message clear. We need to stop such tragedies from happening in the future. This is one of the most deadliest school shootings in United States history. [CNN] Please give a moment of silence to remember those who lost their innocent lives this morning. Ask yourself this question, although it might not be answered. Why? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] super egghunt was: Re: Announcement fromDraconisEntertainment
Hi, and why should he know all that? His PHD was not about games. And some people just don't have time or will to read up on everything, especially on something rather unimportant. And he clearly stated that what he said was his own deffinition. Best regards Sarah - Original Message - From: "Trouble" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] super egghunt was: Re: Announcement fromDraconisEntertainment For some one with a PHD and knows how to do research. You sure no nothing about arcade games or what they even are. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcade_game At 06:59 AM 12/14/2012, you wrote: Hi tom. I believe at one point amigar power magazine started to use the phrase "arcade action games" to describe many of the titles which were being produced that had a distinct structure, many levels and enemies etc, but still had a scoring system, sinse remember in the mid to late 80's it wasn't just platformers that were moving away from the infinite levels, rack up score affairs, even pure shooter games like paradius, r-type, z out etc, not to mention those good old walk along beat em ups such as final fight, the turtles arcade game, golden axe, original robocop etc. Heck even original lemmings! had a scoring system, so it was very much a change over the era. Because however I had to work out some catagories for audiogames.net, and also to get things straight in my own head, these days I tend to catagorize "arcade" as pretty exclusively infinite levels, rack up score, and "action" for games that have a distinct structure and progression such as superliam, Pipe 2 etc. I fully agree there is considderable overlap, but in the interests of having some distinction, and because this is also a distinction I tend to think of myself it seemed a good idea to separate one sort of game from another. all the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Announcement from Draconis Entertainment
Also any money that is deformed in any way is not allowed to be excepted by any business. At 11:43 PM 12/13/2012, you wrote: Hi Dark, Lol! No, squashed coins are definitely not legal tender in the U.S. Once you put that penny on the railroad tracks and have a train run over it the coin is pretty much ruined. You might start out with a coin the size of the penny but after it gets smashed by the train wheels it is about the diameter of a half-dollar and it is paper thin, and the face of Abe Lincoln is messed up beyond recognition. Besides that the coin is bent and warped so it would never fit in a coin slot or in a cash drawer again. :D On 12/13/12, dark wrote: > Hi tom. > > I believe what I was hearing as thinny was what brian said was called a > fitty, which would explain the mistake, sinse I don't imagine squashed coins > > are legal tender anymore :D. > > Beware the grue! > > dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] super egghunt was: Re: Announcement fromDraconisEntertainment
For some one with a PHD and knows how to do research. You sure no nothing about arcade games or what they even are. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcade_game At 06:59 AM 12/14/2012, you wrote: Hi tom. I believe at one point amigar power magazine started to use the phrase "arcade action games" to describe many of the titles which were being produced that had a distinct structure, many levels and enemies etc, but still had a scoring system, sinse remember in the mid to late 80's it wasn't just platformers that were moving away from the infinite levels, rack up score affairs, even pure shooter games like paradius, r-type, z out etc, not to mention those good old walk along beat em ups such as final fight, the turtles arcade game, golden axe, original robocop etc. Heck even original lemmings! had a scoring system, so it was very much a change over the era. Because however I had to work out some catagories for audiogames.net, and also to get things straight in my own head, these days I tend to catagorize "arcade" as pretty exclusively infinite levels, rack up score, and "action" for games that have a distinct structure and progression such as superliam, Pipe 2 etc. I fully agree there is considderable overlap, but in the interests of having some distinction, and because this is also a distinction I tend to think of myself it seemed a good idea to separate one sort of game from another. all the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Announcement from Draconis Entertainment
True it all depends on when you lost the sight and even some totals can pick up on the basic colors. At 06:11 AM 12/14/2012, you wrote: Hi, colors are not meaningless to all blind people. Just saying. -- Raul A. Gallegos A hospital bed is a parked taxi with the meter running. - Groucho Marx Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 On 12/13/2012 9:38 AM, Charles Rivard wrote: On the other hand, colors are meaningless to a blind person. I can associate much better with a dollar, a quarter, and so on than I can with something that is red, blue, or green. And with a name like "change reaction" coin names are more appropriate. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 1:14 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Announcement from Draconis Entertainment ah, thanks bryan, I've never heard of that at all. As I said I'd actually appreciate some alternative coin names, perhaps just numbered tocans rather than the american ones which obviously I'm less familiar with, indeed to me, playing a tetris type game would be much more logical with coloured tocans such as blue red green and white all with unique values than with coins. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Announcement from Draconis Entertainment It probably also didn't help that the half-dollar was called a fitty in game. Not everyone knows that fitty is slang for fifty. On 12/12/2012 5:43 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Dark, Just for your information here is a quick rundown on American coins and there values. Penny: 1 cent Nickle: 5 cents Dime: 10 cents Quarter: 25 cents Half Dollar: 50 cents Silver Dollar: 1 Dollar Cheers! On 12/12/12, dark wrote: Hi. good news, I'm glad the engine is finished, I'll look forward to windows and Ios versions that I can try. I will admit I never really got change reaction, so I'll be interested to see if the audio hints help with the game when the windows version comes out, sinse it always seemed that you were just hearing a matching coin and just chucking away. The fact that the game also used american coinage which obviously me being in the Uk I'm not really familiar with in terms of it's value (I have heard of quarters, knickles and dimes before but have no idea what they're worth), didn't help, indeed you might considder an alternative for the names of coins, perhaps just giving their numerical value instead of the name for people who aren't used to Us money. You mention versions of the games for Ios. how different would they be in their control method? what I mean is, do you have any particular enhancements planned to take advantage of the touch screen qualities of voice over and other features of mobile devices like jyroscope to change the gameplay of the games significantly? i'd love for instance to see a version of whoopass where you punched by moving the device rapidly forward and blocked by turning it sideways. I'm especially looking forward to remakes or expantions of the pinball games, which to my mind are still some of the best arcade games available. all the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your
Re: [Audyssey] Announcement from Draconis Entertainment
Hi Raul. That wouldn't surprise me, sinse synaesthesia and coloured hearing are well known anyway. My only problem with tying colours to sounds in game indeed is quite often the colours used for the sounds are not the same as the colours the sounds have in my brain, for example in alien outback those red ships aren't red, they're light blue to me, and those yellow ships are a darker, purple blue :D. Myself, while I appreciate people find colours to have less meaning, I would suggest that in a tetris type of game like change reaction colours might actually be workable as they would be closer to the many mainstream tetris style games that used matching of coloured blocks such as columns, Dr. Marrio, Wario's woods, mean bean machine, tetris attack, kirby's ghost trap and doubtless about a hundred others :D. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] super egghunt was: Re: Announcement fromDraconisEntertainment
Hi tom. I believe at one point amigar power magazine started to use the phrase "arcade action games" to describe many of the titles which were being produced that had a distinct structure, many levels and enemies etc, but still had a scoring system, sinse remember in the mid to late 80's it wasn't just platformers that were moving away from the infinite levels, rack up score affairs, even pure shooter games like paradius, r-type, z out etc, not to mention those good old walk along beat em ups such as final fight, the turtles arcade game, golden axe, original robocop etc. Heck even original lemmings! had a scoring system, so it was very much a change over the era. Because however I had to work out some catagories for audiogames.net, and also to get things straight in my own head, these days I tend to catagorize "arcade" as pretty exclusively infinite levels, rack up score, and "action" for games that have a distinct structure and progression such as superliam, Pipe 2 etc. I fully agree there is considderable overlap, but in the interests of having some distinction, and because this is also a distinction I tend to think of myself it seemed a good idea to separate one sort of game from another. all the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BariBariFutsal inquirie.
Hello everyone. Is there any audio review of this game? I would be very interested. Thanks Jorge Gonçalves jopo...@hotmail.com Skype: joport3 Twitter: www.twitter.com/goncalvesjorge On 12/14/2012 10:51 AM, Karl Belannger wrote: Hi, The zip version is the same as the installed version, but is able to be run from a USB flash drive or external hard drive on any computer. HTH Karl Sent from my iPhone On Dec 14, 2012, at 1:51, michael barnes wrote: Hello. I was wondering if someone could tell me what is the difference between the install version of Futsal and the zip version? Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Looking for Game Help
Hi tom. Now you mention it I do remember hearing in that podcast justin made about the history of troopanum how it was originally about shooting down paratroopers, a little strange he didn't change the name to something more sf sounding, sinse there aren't even any mech troopers or the like in the game, but hay, it's rather too late now :D. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Announcement from Draconis Entertainment
Hi, colors are not meaningless to all blind people. Just saying. -- Raul A. Gallegos A hospital bed is a parked taxi with the meter running. - Groucho Marx Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 On 12/13/2012 9:38 AM, Charles Rivard wrote: On the other hand, colors are meaningless to a blind person. I can associate much better with a dollar, a quarter, and so on than I can with something that is red, blue, or green. And with a name like "change reaction" coin names are more appropriate. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 1:14 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Announcement from Draconis Entertainment ah, thanks bryan, I've never heard of that at all. As I said I'd actually appreciate some alternative coin names, perhaps just numbered tocans rather than the american ones which obviously I'm less familiar with, indeed to me, playing a tetris type game would be much more logical with coloured tocans such as blue red green and white all with unique values than with coins. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Announcement from Draconis Entertainment It probably also didn't help that the half-dollar was called a fitty in game. Not everyone knows that fitty is slang for fifty. On 12/12/2012 5:43 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Dark, Just for your information here is a quick rundown on American coins and there values. Penny: 1 cent Nickle: 5 cents Dime: 10 cents Quarter: 25 cents Half Dollar: 50 cents Silver Dollar: 1 Dollar Cheers! On 12/12/12, dark wrote: Hi. good news, I'm glad the engine is finished, I'll look forward to windows and Ios versions that I can try. I will admit I never really got change reaction, so I'll be interested to see if the audio hints help with the game when the windows version comes out, sinse it always seemed that you were just hearing a matching coin and just chucking away. The fact that the game also used american coinage which obviously me being in the Uk I'm not really familiar with in terms of it's value (I have heard of quarters, knickles and dimes before but have no idea what they're worth), didn't help, indeed you might considder an alternative for the names of coins, perhaps just giving their numerical value instead of the name for people who aren't used to Us money. You mention versions of the games for Ios. how different would they be in their control method? what I mean is, do you have any particular enhancements planned to take advantage of the touch screen qualities of voice over and other features of mobile devices like jyroscope to change the gameplay of the games significantly? i'd love for instance to see a version of whoopass where you punched by moving the device rapidly forward and blocked by turning it sideways. I'm especially looking forward to remakes or expantions of the pinball games, which to my mind are still some of the best arcade games available. all the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched
Re: [Audyssey] BariBariFutsal inquirie.
Hi, The zip version is the same as the installed version, but is able to be run from a USB flash drive or external hard drive on any computer. HTH Karl Sent from my iPhone On Dec 14, 2012, at 1:51, michael barnes wrote: > Hello. > I was wondering if someone could tell me what is the difference between the > install version of Futsal and the zip version? > Thanks! > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.