date:20140814

Hi Dark,

I don't know much about how much control iOS has over the iPhone's
vibration, but I would imagine there should be some way to control the
rate of vibration and duration. After all we are just talking a
miniature motor that vibrates and should be programmable from a
developers standpoint. All I do know for sure is that DirectX
compatible devices are, and a lot more could be done with them than is
presently being done.

I suppose eventually I should look more into force feedback support
myself. I have the basic concept of how it is to be done, but just
haven't taken the time in large part because it isn't a feature a lot
of audio gamers are looking for. Most are happy with a keyboard and
its hard to justify putting a lot of effort into force feedback
support if only a couple customers have compatible devices. It is one
of those things I was considering adding after more important aspects
of my games have been completed, an extra feature, rather than
incorporating it into the game from the start.

Cheers!


On 8/13/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Hi Tom.

 As I said, I do know that force feedback hasn't been used much but I find it

 interesting that the technology was there, at least in direct x 8 to make it

 a much more major part of games (audio or otherwise).

 I wonder if Ios development allows for the similar control of a phone's
 vibration features, sinse  i could imagine a light saber game much as you
 describe, complete with swinging the phone around as your saber as well,
 provided the vibration could allow for the appropriate variations.

 I will say howver that this is also the sort of thing that would! make me go

 out and buy a pc controller sinse as I said previously I don't particularly

 like joypads anyway and am happy with the keyboard for most things, but this

 would definitely qualify as something only possible with a controller

 Beware the Grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] force feedback was: Re: game controller question

Hi Jim,

Obviously weather to use or not use force feedback is purely a matter
of personal preference. However, I will say if a gamer isn't use to it
force feedback may feel a little strange at first. Its a different
form of feedback where you, the gamer, are employing vibration as
another sensation to gather feedback about your game or add a bit of
extra realism. Imagine, for example, firing a machine gun. The
controller might vibrate in sink with the gun simulating the feeling
of a machine gun, or your steering wheel might become hard to steer
when you drive into the marbles. Both are just added for extra
realism, but might be irritating to someone not use to the controller
attempting to simulate things so realistically. Fortunately, there is
a button on most controllers to turn it off if they don't want force
feedback in their games, and it is considered to be purely optional by
most game developers.

Cheers!


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 Hi Thomas,

 I don't guess that I ever installed any of the software that came with my
 joysticks.  So that would be one reason that I have never programmed with
 force feedback.  Another would be that I do not particularly care for things
 vibrating in my hands.  My vacuum cleaner doesn't even have a power head for
 that reason.  It is just easier for me to feel where I am vacuuming with a
 very light weight none vibrating vacuum.  But I don't know, maybe I would
 like some extra input in game play.

 BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] game controller question

Hi Charles,

Yeah, I can't seem to find it either. I guess it was sent to Audyssey
when we were still on Yahoo. I'll have to check my backup drives and
see if I still have a copy. I found my review of the Logitech F510 but
not the Philips SGC-2909. I guess the question is how important is
this review?

If people think it is important I suppose I can rewrite the thing if I
can't turn up a copy. However, I should have a copy on one of my
backup drives. Trouble is figuring out which one, and hope it wasn't
lost in a drive crash or something.

Cheers!


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 I've looked through the archives, and cannot find the review.  I searched
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Re: [Audyssey] game controller question

Hi Jim,

Yes, I'm aware of all that. The thing is the initialization code only
needs to be done once for the controller. It doesn't matter how many
sticks, buttons, and other controls are on it as all of that will be
detected by your initialization of the device. Once it is initialized
all you have to do is use the correct code to acquire information
about the state of the left stick, right stick, POV hat, buttons, etc
while it is in use. In other words you don't have to have two separate
initializations just because there are two sticks on the controller.
You only need one initialization that allows you to gather input from
any button or stick on the device.

Cheers!


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 Hi Thomas,

 Thank you.  I do see lots of lines of code that look like they are for the
 left stick.  I'll have to experiment and try to get the right stick working
 as well.  You know there is trying to detect it, initialize it, set the
 ranges, assign it and then be able to get input from it.

 Thank you again.

 BFN

  Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] game controller question

Basically, I'm looking for a user's guide in text format to get a layout of 
the controller.  So far, I haven't been able to find one.


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Hi Charles,

Yeah, I can't seem to find it either. I guess it was sent to Audyssey
when we were still on Yahoo. I'll have to check my backup drives and
see if I still have a copy. I found my review of the Logitech F510 but
not the Philips SGC-2909. I guess the question is how important is
this review?

If people think it is important I suppose I can rewrite the thing if I
can't turn up a copy. However, I should have a copy on one of my
backup drives. Trouble is figuring out which one, and hope it wasn't
lost in a drive crash or something.

Cheers!


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I've looked through the archives, and cannot find the review.  I searched
for Philips SGC2909 with you as the author of the post.

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Re: [Audyssey] the grue was: Re: saitek pro flight system?

Hi Dark,

Yeah, now that you mention it I do remember the comment in It where
after Bill, Ben, Ritchie, etc encounter It for the first time there
was a comment to the effect once they had seen It as it truly was,
with all its masks thrown aside, it was not so terrible. I only
vaguely remember the comment in question, but I do recall something to
that effect. In any case it is true that no matter how horrible
something may seem in the dark its not quite as bad when you can see
it and describe it.

As for the origins of the Grue interesting stuff. I'm pretty sure
Infocom borrowed the idea or the name at least from Jack Vance as
well. A lot of authors and game developers did just because he was
such a prolific fantasy writer. That said, everyone has taken the
concept and made it their own such as Dungeons and Dragons, Infocom,
Mutants and Masterminds, and while they share a name in common to me
they aren't the same thing at all.

Sure, I like the concept of the Grue as being mysterious and hiding
out in the dark. In that case they can be anything a person wants them
to be as it is based totally in the mind of the gamer. At the same
time I make a distinction between the Grue from the Zork universe and
these other so-called Grues because they are often different concepts
of what a Grue is and is not.

For instance, in Mutants and Masterminds you mentioned the Grue is a
race of aliens from the moon or something like that. In the context of
Mutants and Masterminds I'd accept that as belonging to that universe.
However, since the Zork universe has a totally different concept of
the Grue I would totally reject the notion of a Grue being from the
moon in a Zork game because they are mysterious and unknown monsters,
or at least were until Infocom decided to bring them out into the
light and describe them which was a disappointment. They were more fun
as an unknown rather than a known monster.

Cheers!



On 8/13/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Hi Tom.
 If I remember rightly the comment in It comes just after Bill and company
 meet up with the title character, and Bill remarks that though he'll never
 feel the same way about spiders, at least knowing that the monster behind
 all the disguises is a spider is a lot better than what he imagines.

 As regards grue, well interestingly enough i believe Infocom got the name
 from some books  by Jack vance. This wouldn't surprise me sinse Vance's
 books have been the source for a lot of ideas in modern rp and other games,

 for example the DD magic system where by wizards need to first memorize a
 spell to absorb it's energy each morning, then speak the encantation to
 release the energy when they want the spell is apparently from Vance's dying

 earth series.

 Interestingly enough however, the term grue actually occurs in a problem
 of philosophy of science from the mid 60's, (my friend had a good laugh when

 we had a lecture on the Grue problem).

 Broardly speaking the problem is to do with  observable properties that
 resemble another property at one point in time, but are entirely different
 at another and comes from putting the words green and blue together,
 sinse a grue object would appear green at one point, and blue at another,

 so it would be impossible to know at any given time whether the object was
 actually green or blue, or was grue.

 The point to all this is that the word grue and it's association with
 things that change and are a bit mysterious at least for me, goes slightly
 further than the Zork universe.

 I personally like the idea of Grues being completely unseen and unknown
 creatures that only appear in darkness, but that is just a preference,
 similar to Tolkien's preference for dipicting elves as noble, wise and
 artistic rather than capricious and fairy like as they occur in some
 legends.

 so, as far as I'm concerned, conceptually the grue is up for grabs! :D.

 Of course, I'll be the first to admit that I'm not a huge fan of the Zork
 games (which is probably odd for someone who likes grues so much), so it's
 likely my respect for their universe boundaries is slightly less than
 someone who is a major fan.

 Beware the grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] force feedback was: Re: game controller question

I would think that it should be a part of your racing game, but not 
necessarily other games.  Just a thought.


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Hi Dark,

I don't know much about how much control iOS has over the iPhone's
vibration, but I would imagine there should be some way to control the
rate of vibration and duration. After all we are just talking a
miniature motor that vibrates and should be programmable from a
developers standpoint. All I do know for sure is that DirectX
compatible devices are, and a lot more could be done with them than is
presently being done.

I suppose eventually I should look more into force feedback support
myself. I have the basic concept of how it is to be done, but just
haven't taken the time in large part because it isn't a feature a lot
of audio gamers are looking for. Most are happy with a keyboard and
its hard to justify putting a lot of effort into force feedback
support if only a couple customers have compatible devices. It is one
of those things I was considering adding after more important aspects
of my games have been completed, an extra feature, rather than
incorporating it into the game from the start.

Cheers!


On 8/13/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:

Hi Tom.

As I said, I do know that force feedback hasn't been used much but I find 
it


interesting that the technology was there, at least in direct x 8 to make 
it


a much more major part of games (audio or otherwise).

I wonder if Ios development allows for the similar control of a phone's
vibration features, sinse  i could imagine a light saber game much as you
describe, complete with swinging the phone around as your saber as well,
provided the vibration could allow for the appropriate variations.

I will say howver that this is also the sort of thing that would! make me 
go


out and buy a pc controller sinse as I said previously I don't 
particularly


like joypads anyway and am happy with the keyboard for most things, but 
this


would definitely qualify as something only possible with a controller

Beware the Grue!

DArk.


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Re: [Audyssey] game controller question

Curious:  What the heck is a POV hat?  I'm figuring Point Of something, 
but can't come up with the V of the acronym.


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Hi Jim,

Yes, I'm aware of all that. The thing is the initialization code only
needs to be done once for the controller. It doesn't matter how many
sticks, buttons, and other controls are on it as all of that will be
detected by your initialization of the device. Once it is initialized
all you have to do is use the correct code to acquire information
about the state of the left stick, right stick, POV hat, buttons, etc
while it is in use. In other words you don't have to have two separate
initializations just because there are two sticks on the controller.
You only need one initialization that allows you to gather input from
any button or stick on the device.

Cheers!


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Hi Thomas,

Thank you.  I do see lots of lines of code that look like they are for 
the
left stick.  I'll have to experiment and try to get the right stick 
working

as well.  You know there is trying to detect it, initialize it, set the
ranges, assign it and then be able to get input from it.

Thank you again.

BFN

 Jim

My joystick is a Saitek ST290 Pro.

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Re: [Audyssey] Park Boss Trailer. The next release from N A Soft.

This sounds like it's going to be fun.  I know that there is, or was, a game 
for sighted gamers in which you create an amusement park.  You had to, I 
think, build the rides and hope they operate as they should.  Will this be 
part of your game as well?  From the trailer, I'm interested.  Thanks.


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Hi all.
Park Boss is the next audio game from N A Soft where you build and run 
your own amusement park.
It's currently being tested and I'm hoping to release in the next couple 
of months, but until then check out the trailer Park Boss Trailer. The 
next release from N A Soft.

http://audioboo.fm/boos/2394909-park-boss-trailer-the-next-release-from-n-a-soft-parkboss
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Re: [Audyssey] the grue was: Re: saitek pro flight system?

2014-08-14 Thread dark


Hi Tom.

I admit I'm not keen on the grue in mutants either. They're held to be a 
race of aliens who live on the moon and are the principle reason that  earth 
hasn't got intersteller  contact with other alien races as they are pretty 
much at war with most everyone off earth. They are  mysterious in that 
they're shape shifters and so can either disguise themselves or become 
animals  or monsters and battle, but they just don't fit the idea of grue 
to me either.


Personally, if I ever wrote a serious book or other story that featured a 
grue, one of the most key points is that it would never be  seen or 
understood.


Btw, I actually should sit down and read more books by Jack Vance just 
becuase I'd be interested to see where DD etc got their ideas from. 
Unfortunately, I've only red one book by him, his sf story Araminta station, 
and in usual fashion the Rnib over here only did the first book of the 
trilogy (which also ends on a cliff hanger), though the ideas in that book 
were  still rather interesting, for example  a rather isolated race of 
humanity who become close to a sub species due to alien conditions, or  a 
aristocracy based on  people's genetic  closeness to an original colony 
team, and on the basis that the team only has a number of positions which 
must be filled by members of the correct family and anyone surplus to 
requirements or failing tests will be exiled from the planet.
Anyway, this discussion has drifted a little off topic for a gaming list so 
probably ought to stop.


Beware the grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] Aetolia

2014-08-14 Thread Shannon Dyer

Different guilds have different requirements. My current guild has no exam like 
the one you're describing, but the RP is definitely enforced.

Shannon
On Aug 14, 2014, at 2:06 AM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:

 Hi Shanon.
 
 the screen reader option is good, but I'm not sure about inforced rp.
 
 There is a chap I spoke to on audiogame.snet who had been playing achaea, got 
 to level 20 but then  literally couldn't advance without joining  a guild and 
 to joing one he had to take an exam!
 
 And by exam, I mean a full written paper which seemed to be taking rp a 
 little too far. I did wonder, what with  the description for Etolia 
 emphasising the exploring if the rp requirement was achaea specific, but 
 obviously not.
 
 Beware the Grue!
 
 Dark.
 - Original Message - From: Shannon Dyer solsticesin...@gmail.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 10:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Aetolia
 
 
 Aetolia is pretty heavy into RP. You have to join a guild, and each guild has 
 requirements you must meet in order to advance. A certain amount of RP is 
 necessary.
 
 There is an option you can set in the beginning that modifies the way text is 
 read for people who use screen readers.
 
 Due to the guilds, it's not the best game for solo exploration. Your ability 
 to hunt, for example, varies depending upon which guild you joined. So, 
 vampires bite, necromancers decay, etc.
 
 Shannon
 On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:58 PM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 
 Hi Joshua.
 
 If your familiar with Etolia, as I said i'D APPRECIATE SOME INFORMATION 
 ABOUT THE GAME, PARTICULARLY WHAT THE QUESTS ARE LIKE, HOW much the game has 
 rp or pvp elements, and what sort of  Vi related adaptations there ar.
 
 Beware the grue!
 
 Dark.
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 Subject: [Audyssey] Aetolia
 
 
 Hi all,
 So, I figured out how the path system works. I wonder how long that feature 
 has been implemented, as I don’t remember it when I played a few years ago. 
 Nevertheless, I intend to try it again, joining the Orlirani.
 
 
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Re: [Audyssey] Park Boss Trailer. The next release from N A Soft.

Hi Charles,

Yeah, it does sound fun. I'm eager to try it out.

The game you probably are talking about is Roller Coaster Tycoon. It
was a game in the late 90's or so where you built an amusement park
with various roller coasters and managed the amusement park. I never
really played the game myself, but I do remember the game was fairly
popular for a while.

Cheers!


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Re: [Audyssey] Park Boss Trailer. The next release from N A Soft.


can you post the link for the traylor


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Hi Charles,

Yeah, it does sound fun. I'm eager to try it out.

The game you probably are talking about is Roller Coaster Tycoon. It
was a game in the late 90's or so where you built an amusement park
with various roller coasters and managed the amusement park. I never
really played the game myself, but I do remember the game was fairly
popular for a while.

Cheers!


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This sounds like it's going to be fun.  I know that there is, or was, a game

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think, build the rides and hope they operate as they should.  Will this be
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[Audyssey] top speed 3?


hi

where can I get other vehicles and tracks for top speed 3 besides the 
ones that come with it already? is there a site with extras? also are 
there vehicles that speed up really fast and do burnouts and stuff?


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Re: [Audyssey] Park Boss Trailer. The next release from N A Soft.

Hi Josh,

the link for the trailer was in Nick's original message. If I were you
I'd look for the first message of this thread in your inbox or trash
folder.

Cheers!


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Re: [Audyssey] Park Boss Trailer. The next release from N A Soft.

2014-08-14 Thread Nick Adamson

Hi.
It's
https://audioboo.fm/boos/2394909-park-boss-trailer-the-next-release-from-n-a-soft-parkboss
Thanks.
Nick

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can you post the link for the traylor

The hungry robot ate my signature so that is why I no longer have one!

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Hi Charles,

Yeah, it does sound fun. I'm eager to try it out.

The game you probably are talking about is Roller Coaster Tycoon. It
was a game in the late 90's or so where you built an amusement park
with various roller coasters and managed the amusement park. I never
really played the game myself, but I do remember the game was fairly
popular for a while.

Cheers!

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This sounds like it's going to be fun. I know that there is, or was, a game

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think, build the rides and hope they operate as they should. Will this be
part of your game as well? From the trailer, I'm interested. Thanks.

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Re: [Audyssey] force feedback was: Re: game controller question

Hi Charles,

I was definitely planning on including force feedback support for USA
Raceway. That actually has been one of the reasons that particular
project was held up as I was waiting for SDL 2.0 to come out with
force feedback support so I could include it in Mac and Linux releases
of Raceway. Now that SDL 2 is out and has force feedback support its
more a matter of finding time to upgrade my engine to SDL 2.0 from SDL
1.2.

As far as other games goes I can think of a number of ways it could be
included in games besides Raceway. In Mysteries of the Ancients the
game controller can vibrate when Angela is firing the Uzi or MP5. It
could simulate hitting something when the sword or dagger strikes an
object. Same goes with fists and feet in hand-to-hand combat. Strictly
speaking that kind of feedback isn't necessary but would be there for
added realism.

Cheers!


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Re: [Audyssey] Park Boss Trailer. The next release from N A Soft.

2014-08-14 Thread Desiree Oudinot

This sounds great!
I'm definitely looking forward to checking it out. It does sound a bit
like Roller Coaster Tycoon. I remember my sister playing that a lot
back when it was popular, and wishing I was able to play it. I think
it probably would have been too visual though.

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 Hi Josh,

 the link for the trailer was in Nick's original message. If I were you
 I'd look for the first message of this thread in your inbox or trash
 folder.

 Cheers!


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[Audyssey] Playing Paladin of the sky with game controller

2014-08-14 Thread Jesse Gaona



Hi all.

The recent discussion on game controllers has me wondering if Paladin of the 
sky is playable with a game controller? If so, which one would be recommended? 
Thanks in advance.

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Re: [Audyssey] game controller question

Hi Charles,

POV stands for point of view. In mainstream games it is often possible
to change the point of view or the perspective of where the game
character is looking by using the POV hat on the controller to look
around at the game world without moving the character.

Typically the POV hat is a round shaped control on the gamepad located
at the top left corner of the unit. You press it up or down to look
up/down or press it left or right to look left/right. There is usually
a button nearby to have it toggle between point of view and movement
controls for the game character so you can use it as a type of
alternative joystick as well as looking around.

Since audio games don't usually have look commands I doubt many will
employ this control much, but it is useful in mainstream games and
could easily be adapted to audio. In fact, I am planning on doing just
that once I get around to launching my full 3d audio games.

Cheers!


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[Audyssey] Paladin of the sky

2014-08-14 Thread Ron Schamerhorn


Hi all

  I knoww this has been talked about for awhile and finally got around 
to it.  I'm having trouble getting past the second half (wimpy I know) 
of the first combat challenge, the one where you attempt to hit the alt 
key.  What's the secret?  I've given it qquite alot of effort and can't 
pass it.


TIA
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Re: [Audyssey] Playing Paladin of the sky with game controller

Hi Jesse,

As far as I can tell Paladin of the Sky does not have any joystick or
gamepad support. Only keyboard support. Although, in a game like this
joystick support would be sort of overkill anyway.

Cheers!


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 The recent discussion on game controllers has me wondering if Paladin of the
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Re: [Audyssey] game controller question

Hi Charles,

I see. Unfortunately, I'm not finding a copy of my review, but the
controller isn't that complicated. The controller actually has a
fairly typical gamepad layout. Although, that probably doesn't help
seeing as you are a newbie to game controllers.

In any case I'll see what I can come up with. No promises, but at
worse I'll try and recreate the review. Problem is I don't have
sighted assistance around so I don't quite remember which buttons are
labeled A, B, C, D, etc. In any case that usually doesn't matter
because in games such as my own I have a profiler to map whatever
action I want to the button and no longer recall what it is labeled.
That's hardly a good thing for a technical review. Still I suppose I
can find someone to remind me of what buttons are labeled what.
Though, it might take a few days.

Cheers!


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 Basically, I'm looking for a user's guide in text format to get a layout of

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Re: [Audyssey] Playing Paladin of the sky with game controller

2014-08-14 Thread Jesse Gaona

Ok, thanks Thomas.


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 Hi Jesse,
 
 As far as I can tell Paladin of the Sky does not have any joystick or
 gamepad support. Only keyboard support. Although, in a game like this
 joystick support would be sort of overkill anyway.
 
 Cheers!
 
 
 On 8/14/14, Jesse Gaona jesse.gaon...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Hi all.
 
 The recent discussion on game controllers has me wondering if Paladin of the
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Re: [Audyssey] Paladin of the sky

2014-08-14 Thread Jesse Gaona

It's all about timing. Hit the left ALT key in sequence with the first beep.


Sent from my jPhone 5

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 Hi all
 
  I knoww this has been talked about for awhile and finally got around to it.  
 I'm having trouble getting past the second half (wimpy I know) of the first 
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Re: [Audyssey] Park Boss Trailer. The next release from N A Soft.


I already found it. I can't wait to buy this game!

The hungry robot ate my signature so that is why I no longer have one!

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Hi Josh,

the link for the trailer was in Nick's original message. If I were you
I'd look for the first message of this thread in your inbox or trash
folder.

Cheers!


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Re: [Audyssey] game controller question

Cool info.  Thanks.

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From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game controller question

Hi Charles,

POV stands for point of view. In mainstream games it is often possible
to change the point of view or the perspective of where the game
character is looking by using the POV hat on the controller to look
around at the game world without moving the character.

Typically the POV hat is a round shaped control on the gamepad located
at the top left corner of the unit. You press it up or down to look
up/down or press it left or right to look left/right. There is usually
a button nearby to have it toggle between point of view and movement
controls for the game character so you can use it as a type of
alternative joystick as well as looking around.

Since audio games don't usually have look commands I doubt many will
employ this control much, but it is useful in mainstream games and
could easily be adapted to audio. In fact, I am planning on doing just
that once I get around to launching my full 3d audio games.

Cheers!

On 8/14/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:

Curious:  What the heck is a POV hat?  I'm figuring Point Of something,
but can't come up with the V of the acronym.

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