Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Let's be honest, though. Rehab is probably going to be getting JAWS for clients, and it wouldn't be too much of a stretch for them to get Leasey as an add-on, especially for their clients who don't know anything about computers. I'm not saying that what he's doing is fair at all, but I think that Q9 might spread further than we otherwise think. Thanks, Ari On Jul 29, 2015, at 9:21 AM, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: The only way that they will find out about this game, though, is to buy an expensive software package. That's a pretty high, and unreasonable, way to find out about it. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Nick Adamson n...@ndadamson.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 1:17 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home Hi all. The content of this thread is making me a little uncomfortable. You may not agree with what has happened but encouraging piracy and personal attacks makes no one look good and especially from people normally respected in our community. As there is nothing you can do about the Q9 situation why not try to see the positives. People who wouldn't normally play audio games are being introduced to them and that may lead to them finding out what else is out there. Thanks. Nick. On 29 Jul 2015, at 01:40, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dark, Fair enough. That seems to me to be a fair compromise. On 7/28/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. I've made a practice of not deleting games that were once available but currently are not from the db, sinse it's surprising how often old ones pop up, or in the cases of some games how people manage to acquire them anyway even if audiogames.net won't help people to do so unless the games are officially abandonware. Hence why the pages for the bsc titles and bavisoft games are still up. this is what the unknown license type is for, ie, we don't know what has become of the game. I will not therefore remove Q9's entry, but I won't advertise sleasy either, I will put a note to the effect the rights have been sold but the game is legally unavailable, sinse for most intents and purposes, it is. If this Brian Hartgen wants to contact me and discuss the problem, well I'll be glad to tell him what I think. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6081 / Virus Database: 4392/10332 - Release Date: 07/29/15 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Hello Ari, Agreed. Here in the States at least Jaws is generally purchased by agencies for clients and I can see in certain cases Leasey being purchased along side Jaws for JSay and other stuff that comes bundled with it. So in those circumstances yes Q9 might spread further than one might assume by being bundled with Leasey. On 8/10/15, Gmail englishride...@gmail.com wrote: Let's be honest, though. Rehab is probably going to be getting JAWS for clients, and it wouldn't be too much of a stretch for them to get Leasey as an add-on, especially for their clients who don't know anything about computers. I'm not saying that what he's doing is fair at all, but I think that Q9 might spread further than we otherwise think. Thanks, Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jim's nfl football - Josh K
Hello, Or, dropbox, for that matter? Mine may have opened it, but after 5 minutes, I just hit the reset key. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 2:07 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim's nfl football - Josh K You might have had more luck sending it via an attachment. As a general rule of thumb, most text editors (including mail clients) will get mad if you give them more than a couple hundred kb to chew on. -- From: Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 0:48 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim's nfl football - Josh K hey guys it was a very big log file of an entire season of nfl football. i wanted to show you guys how good I am at the game and how I won the superbowl. i had to send it through gmail on the website because it made my email client go crazy when I tried putting the whole thing into a message. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 8/9/2015 8:50 PM, john wrote: Hi list, I just received an email from Josh Kennedy (not Josh k - this may be important), with a listed size of about 1100 kb, and subject something to do with jim's nfl football (I deleted the message, and don't have the exact line anymore). As soon as I tried to read the message my mail client went ballistic; fully loading up my processor and sending memory usage through the roof (fellow nerds that's 400mb). I'm not sure if this was just the world's largest game log file, or if it was something more sinister, but I'd advise anybody who got the message to avoid opening it. I'm hoping that this really was just a bad decision to send an ungodly large log through email and not some kind of virus on list, but given the way my machine reacted I figured it'd probably be best to post an alert about it just in case (if you do open the message, killing my mail client seems to have fixed the issue). I'd also note that I'm not trying to accuse anybody here - rather to offer a note of caution and a request that we try not to post logs t're larger than a bunch of novels put together. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] jim kitchen's site
Hi. There is now a note on jims site from his family saying that they will try to keep things going as long as they can. there are contact emails about the site bbut its good that it is getting mirrored though. Thats the imediate issue out the way. Someone will have to eventually ttake over his projects and other things in the small game thing he started. Even if it isn't to make new projects to keep the older ones updated and anything in the pipeline released. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jim's nfl football - Josh K
Hi Rajmund, Yes, Josh's last name is Kennedy. Cheers! On 8/10/15, Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello John, New buy here, by the way, it certainly sent the braille sense into hell. I had to reset. After 3 crashes, I just deleted the 1.1 mb EML file. Glad it was the file, not the sense, though. PS. Thought Josh K's last name was Kenedy? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
I believe windows pricing is: $119 for home, $199 for pro -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 16:01 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home Hi Dark, I believe your Windows analogy is pretty close a comparison as we can get. Not exactly the same situation, but close enough for comparison that the concepts carry over. As you said Leasy costs no more than it ever has and I believe Brian has purchased Q9 to include in Leasey as a sort of freebie the way the Windows games are for Windows users. Although, I believe a standard Windows DVD costs like $125 nobody can accuse Microsoft of essentially charging $125 for Solitaire, Hearts, Minesweeper, and their other games simply because they are considered by Microsoft as add-ons or freebies included with the Windows package as a whole. From their perspective you are not so much buying those games as you are buying an operating system complete with multiple programs such as media players, text editors, games, web browsers, etc. To accuse them of selling games for $125 wouldn't make sense from their point of view. Leasey seems to be a similar situation. Brian sees, rightly or wrongly, Q9 as being another nifty add-on to Leasey. He does not see it as selling a game since he is selling a bunch of scripts as well as a package or suite of programs to the end user. You buy one you get all, and thus he sees it as a package deal even though the majority of gamers just want the game itself. The only thing I can think of that is sort of similar to this situation is Internet Explorer. Long ago, we are talking the early 1990's, Internet Explorer use to be a stand alone program. A person went out and purchased a computer with say MS Dos 6.2 and Windows 3.1 on it, and had to buy Internet Explorer separate if they wanted it. When Windows 95 came out Microsoft bundled Internet Explorer as part of the Windows 95 release, and stopped selling Internet Explorer to Windows 3.1 customers. Unfair some might say, but from Microsoft's point of view they were giving it away for free now that it was bundled in their latest operating system rather than sold separately. Some 20 years later nobody cares because it has for the most part all been forgotten about, and I suspect there are many on this very list that have never used anything prior to Windows 95 so don't know or remember the days when Internet Explorer was not a freebie. I said all that to make the point that Brian is undoubtedly viewing Q9 as some freebie, an add-on, to his Leasey package and does not consider the money he is losing by not selling it separately. I suspect that he purchased it with the soul aim of boosting sales of Leasey, of having exclusive content, that can only be gotten by getting Leasey. While that is rotten, unfair, sucks, I can remember similar cases where companies like Microsoft have done the same sort of thing but people have forgotten about it. Leasey customers are unlikely to know or care that Q9 was once sold separately and over time the people who know and remember that will slowly fade. Even if they don't they have no control over the situation so at this point I consider the matter a mute point since nobody here can make a difference. Cheers! On 8/10/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Josh. I've heard this arguement that the game is now worth 200 usd before, but that is just looking at it from one perspective. From Brian Hartgen's point of view he has bought Q9 to essentially be a bonus. It's like the solitare and other games that comes with windows. It would be foolish to say that microsoft are selling a solitare game for $300 (or however much a windows install costs these days), it's that microsoft are selling windows as the main operating system and solitare, pinball, spades etc come as a freee extra. That is how I believe Brian Hartgen is viewing Q9. he sells Leasy for 200 usd which is the same price he's always sold it for, and people get a fun little game as a look at this freebee! item. The problem though is Q9 is not like solitare. it's not just a fun little time waster, it is a well crafted game that has had significant work put into it, which is exactly why I accuse Brian of devaluing what he has bought, indeed while I hold Philip generally blaimeless in the matter, I am extremely sorry that Philip didn't sell the rights to the game to another, more responsable person who recognized the worth of what they had rather than thinking oh game, worth not much, I'll throw it in for free I'm also dissappointed that this moron Brian, even though he clearly did not know the value of what he had didn't change his thinking once he recieved so many complaints. Whether he is hoping people will buy leasy just for the game, or whether (as I personally believe is more likely), he is sticking to his guns just to be bloody
Re: [Audyssey] RailRacer?
I have absolutely no clue where you could find this - try searching audiogames.net. -- From: Damien Sykes-Pendleton dam...@dcpendleton.plus.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 15:00 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] RailRacer? Hi there, Not sure if I’ve missed anything, I haven’t been around here for a while. Does anyone know what happened to RailRacer? I can’t seem to be able to download it at all. The developer’s website doesn’t even refer to it and there is no contact info. I played that game once and would really like to do so again if at all possible. Thanks. Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Hello Ari, Correct. Leasey is completely closed source and NVDA is licence under the GPL which requires most things to be open source and to really do what Leasey does it would have to be open source. Therefore since Leasey is a commercial project the GPL type license wouldn't allow them to support NVDA the same way they support Jaws without also essentially giving it away for free. At least is how I take the situation. Cheers! On 8/10/15, Gmail englishride...@gmail.com wrote: From what I heard, the developers of Leaseyo did actually approach the developers of NVDA about supporting it; things fell through, though, because NVDA requires that all their code be open source, which makes sense, and it seemed like the developers of Leasey either weren't willing or weren't able to do that. Thanks, Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
The prices I was quoting were the official microsoft numbers for windows 10 - I'm not sure about any other version or sellers. -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 16:40 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home Hi John, That sounds about right. Although, the pricing for Windows depends on the retailer the person buys it from. It can be slightly higher or cheaper depending on where one buys it. Cheers! On 8/10/15, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: I believe windows pricing is: $119 for home, $199 for pro --- --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Hi Tom. My one major issue with this is as I said that Philip's work that he obviously put much time and trouble into is being so devalued, and is being so badly curtailed for no reason. Brian Hartgen could! still sell the game for 20 usd as Philip did as a stand alone program and! give it away free with leasy if he desired, indeed it could be a great promo for him. Buy Leasy and you get this free game worth 20 usd! As I said though, he is just being a bloody minded arse hole with no respect for what he has purchiced. No, he is not the first business owner to do this, nor will he be the last, indeed this is a classic example of what Marx called the Alienation of labour ie, someone who makes or develops or produces something being utterly debased from the value of that thing, and it is also typical of the business world that the customers and potential customers have no power in this dynamic whatsoever, anymore than Philip did the second he signed over that contract. You are correct that unfortunately that is that, but I don't think people's bad feelings towards Brian Hartgen are unjustified, and personally i feel extremely sorry for Philip to think that his game in the future will have such profoundly limited availability, sinse I doubt very much anyone will! buy leasy just for the purposes of playing Q9, and though people might buy leasy and spend some minutes with the game, I'd be willing to bet that this won't be half as many as would do so if it were just sold without restriction. Okay, end of contributions from me on this matter. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jim's nfl football - Josh K
Hello Thomas, Strangely, I actually managed to open my EML file with file manager (since it killed email) and I found nothing meaningful through a basic word pad kind of thing. So wonder what it really contained? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 5:35 am Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim's nfl football - Josh K Hi Dark, I feel pretty confident your AVG scan won't find anything because when I scanned that message it came up clean but then again MSE isn't the world's best virus scanner either. All the same in hindsight I wish I had just rejected that post for being over the message limit rather than passing it through the system seeing as how many people had problems with it. I do believe in the future I shall just reject any more messages like it since that log file was unbelievably huge. Cheers! On 8/10/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Glad it didn't have a virus, I had the same issue and am currently running an avg scan just in case. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jim's nfl football - Josh K
Hello John, New buy here, by the way, it certainly sent the braille sense into hell. I had to reset. After 3 crashes, I just deleted the 1.1 mb EML file. Glad it was the file, not the sense, though. PS. Thought Josh K's last name was Kenedy? - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 1:51 am Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim's nfl football - Josh K Hi list, I just received an email from Josh Kennedy (not Josh k - this may be important), with a listed size of about 1100 kb, and subject something to do with jim's nfl football (I deleted the message, and don't have the exact line anymore). As soon as I tried to read the message my mail client went ballistic; fully loading up my processor and sending memory usage through the roof (fellow nerds that's 400mb). I'm not sure if this was just the world's largest game log file, or if it was something more sinister, but I'd advise anybody who got the message to avoid opening it. I'm hoping that this really was just a bad decision to send an ungodly large log through email and not some kind of virus on list, but given the way my machine reacted I figured it'd probably be best to post an alert about it just in case (if you do open the message, killing my mail client seems to have fixed the issue). I'd also note that I'm not trying to accuse anybody here - rather to offer a note of caution and a request that we try not to post logs t're larger than a bunch of novels put together. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
From what I heard, the developers of Leaseyo did actually approach the developers of NVDA about supporting it; things fell through, though, because NVDA requires that all their code be open source, which makes sense, and it seemed like the developers of Leasey either weren't willing or weren't able to do that. Thanks, Ari On Jul 27, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ian, Yep, I'd seen the first link, but Bryan's response was new to me so thanks for that. I figured it was worth asking here because the outcry wasn't overwhelming yet, but having just read that no further comments will be forthcoming I guess I won't be getting a response direct from the horses mouth. NO matter really, it's clear at this point that however politely written they might be (and to be fair, most of them weren't), individual protestations aren't going to change anything. For what it's worth, I already own Q9. Have done since release day or pretty close to it. I've got massive respect for Philip's development chops and his taste in SFX. It's a big shame that the community wasn't large enough to provide enough of an income to make it worth him retaining the rights to his creation. I've had to pass along rights to music I've sweated over before to make ends meet, and can sympathise that it's not always an easy decision. However, my disappointment stems from the business model of where the rights now reside. Philip would've been aware of said model, and from a couple of brief conversations over the years I had him pegged up as a pretty forward thinking chap, hence his decision of who to sell to surprised me. That's why I attempted to open a dialogue somewhere a little less fraught. In my mind, for a community as small as this one, games being tied to specific screen readers is a terrible idea, which makes games being tied to a paid product which is in turn tied to a paid screen reader a *truly* terrible idea! Tbh, I'd question who Leasy's users even are, given that funding for JAWS licenses isn't dished out willy-nilly anymore. I mean, do you know many people with enough spare change to invest in a JAWS license which costs more than an entry level computer, then splash a bit more cash to change the user interface of that expensive product they've just bought? I don't! Perhaps Bryan is shooting for exclusive content such as Q9 making his platform more appealing, but I would've thought it would've been clear from a bit of research that a large - if not majority - portion of the younger generation in this community (his potential long-term customers) are going to turn their nose up at anyone who's willingly hopped into bed with Freedom Scientific. Of course, this is all just one chap's opinion. The decision was Philip's to make, and he made it. I guess at this point I'm mostly sounding off because if Leasy have any sort of buying power, this might not be the only game to be acquired rather than developed specifically for a platform which frankly, I would hope is short lived. That's a strong statement, but it carries no animosity on a personal level to anyone involved. I'm saying that it's the business model that sucks for end users, not necessarily the people behind it. Lastly, for anyone who made it this far and has me pegged as another holier than thou armchair critic, I should probably point out that I've been instrumental in finding funding for a couple of accessibility products, so I feel pretty confident in stating that Leasy's model isn't the only way. Funding is still out there for good ideas. That funding can greatly reduce the cost for end users, and if Leasy were screen reader agnostic, it could've been a product that attracted more young, hungry gamers. But nope. Anyway, just a splurge of my initial thoughts on the subject. Maybe they'll reach a future developer who gets approached and give him or her something to chew on... Scott On 7/27/15, Ian Reed supp...@blindaudiogames.com wrote: Hi Scott, In post 48 Philip said: The transfer of rights is already concluded, so at this point anyone who wants to obtain Q9 will have to contact the folks behind Leasey. *snip* To me this says that Philip can not continue to sell the game through Blast Bay. Someone also posted a link to Bryan Hartgen's response regarding Q9: http://www.hartgen.org/q9 In which he says: Just to summarise, if anyone purchased a license for the game in the past, of course that is still going to function. However, no further standalone licenses will be issued. *snip* While I do understand people being frustrated that Q9 now requires Jaws and Leasy to play, the people who already purchased the standalone version can continue to play it as they have in the past. The game was available for 6 years, to me this says that anyone who was serious about purchasing it has already had ample opportunity to do so. Despite people's
Re: [Audyssey] jim's nfl football - Josh K
I was referencing 400mb of ram used by the mail program, in what I'd considered a possible attack/horrible memory leak. I believe the actual email was 1140 something kb. -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 16:21 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim's nfl football - Josh K Hi Shaun, I suspect the statement the e-mail was 400 MB of text was exaggerated. Try about 4 MB from what I saw. Cheers! On 8/10/15, Shaun Everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: well I found the mail in gmail and deleted it before it downloaded, it, yeah 400mb of text would take ages to open. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games?
I've played a number of IF titles, but I'm by no means an expert. Feel free to ask questions though and I'm sure somebody on list can help you out. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 15:06 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Hi all, Well, the subject pretty much says it. Anyone still plays the old games, that have extentions like z5? Or am I looking at the wrong place? I'm stuck in a few games, and wonder whether anyone plays/played them and could help? Also, anyone into online text based role playing online games? Many thanks!! PS. I only have note takers to play, that's why I only play text based games. Rajmund Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jim's nfl football - Josh K
Hi Shaun, I suspect the statement the e-mail was 400 MB of text was exaggerated. Try about 4 MB from what I saw. Cheers! On 8/10/15, Shaun Everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: well I found the mail in gmail and deleted it before it downloaded, it, yeah 400mb of text would take ages to open. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Fwd: MediaReq How Jim Kitchen died
This just rolled across my desk. Shane Forwarded Message Subject:MediaReq How Jim Kitchen died Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 16:19:27 -0400 From: bushido988 via Groups.io bushido988=aol@groups.io Reply-To: bushido...@aol.com To: media...@groups.io CC: media...@groups.io I know many were asking how Jim Kitchen died. His sister Sendy wrote me and told me the following. Jim had a bleeding ulcer, and he started bleeding internally and lost too much blood. They could not revive him when his heart stopped. Sensei John _._,_._,_ Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. You automatically follow any threads you start or reply to. View This Message (#6664) https://groups.io/org/groupsio/mediareq/message/6664 Mute This Thread https://groups.io/mt/119291?uid=11408 Change Your Subscription https://groups.io/org/groupsio/mediareq/editsub?uid=11408 Unsubscribe From This Group https://groups.io/org/groupsio/mediareq/leave/21472/1962034455/xyzzy Group Home https://groups.io/org/groupsio/mediareq Contact Group Owner mailto:mediareq+ow...@groups.io Terms Of Service https://groups.io/static/tos _._,_._,_ --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Hi John, That sounds about right. Although, the pricing for Windows depends on the retailer the person buys it from. It can be slightly higher or cheaper depending on where one buys it. Cheers! On 8/10/15, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: I believe windows pricing is: $119 for home, $199 for pro --- --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Fwd: Jim Kitchens games
Hello all, Here is a message from Joshua Griffith regarding Jim's site and games. I thought any interested parties should read this. -- Forwarded message -- From: Joshua Griffith webmas...@jgriffith.com Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 06:21:26 -0500 Subject: Jim Kitchens games To: gamers-ow...@audyssey.org Just wanted to drop you a note regarding Kitchensinc.net. I've noticed a spike in the download usage on the Kitchensinc.net website, so just to clarify this for those downloading his games with the expectation that they will no longer be available to download. I will not be removing Jims site from my hosting package. His site will remain intact and his games will remain available, and free to download for many years to come. Sincerely, Joshua Griffith. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games?
I've played interactive fiction games in my time, though I confess I haven't for quite a while sinse I got stick of five out of six games ending in a I don't know how to put type of situation. Also, what exactly do you mean by online text based games? do you mean browser games like Sryth, core exiles, kingdom of loathing? do you mean muds like alteraeon and clok? Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 8:06 PM Subject: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Hi all, Well, the subject pretty much says it. Anyone still plays the old games, that have extentions like z5? Or am I looking at the wrong place? I'm stuck in a few games, and wonder whether anyone plays/played them and could help? Also, anyone into online text based role playing online games? Many thanks!! PS. I only have note takers to play, that's why I only play text based games. Rajmund Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jim's nfl football - Josh K
Hello Thomas, Not surprising. Thanks for the clarification, never the less. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:26 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim's nfl football - Josh K Hi Rajmund, The message Josh sent contained the logs for 20 football games. Every play was recorded and logged by the game which is what he attempted to forward onto the list, but apparently failed because a lot of e-mail clients couldn't open it. \ On 8/10/15, Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Thomas, Strangely, I actually managed to open my EML file with file manager (since it killed email) and I found nothing meaningful through a basic word pad kind of thing. So wonder what it really contained? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: Jim Kitchens games
That is extremely good to know and I'm very glad of that fact. As I said on audiogames.net, With the amount of people grabbing up jim's games ad wanting to host them, it is more likely they will be seen everywhere! than not available anywhere, however I do like the thought of people not just being able to play jim's games but reading the descriptions of them that he wrote before they download them. Just one question. It is possible that people will create more golf courses, trivia question files or monopoly board configurations in the future, (off and on I've been working on a Doctor Who trivia set). It'd be nice if these could also be added to Jim's site, though if not they could of course be hosted elsewhere. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 9:55 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Fwd: Jim Kitchens games Hello all, Here is a message from Joshua Griffith regarding Jim's site and games. I thought any interested parties should read this. -- Forwarded message -- From: Joshua Griffith webmas...@jgriffith.com Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 06:21:26 -0500 Subject: Jim Kitchens games To: gamers-ow...@audyssey.org Just wanted to drop you a note regarding Kitchensinc.net. I've noticed a spike in the download usage on the Kitchensinc.net website, so just to clarify this for those downloading his games with the expectation that they will no longer be available to download. I will not be removing Jims site from my hosting package. His site will remain intact and his games will remain available, and free to download for many years to come. Sincerely, Joshua Griffith. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: MediaReq How Jim Kitchen died
that's terrible At 06:20 AM 8/11/2015, you wrote: This just rolled across my desk. Shane Forwarded Message Subject:MediaReq How Jim Kitchen died Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 16:19:27 -0400 From: bushido988 via Groups.io bushido988=aol@groups.io Reply-To: bushido...@aol.com To: media...@groups.io CC: media...@groups.io I know many were asking how Jim Kitchen died. His sister Sendy wrote me and told me the following. Jim had a bleeding ulcer, and he started bleeding internally and lost too much blood. They could not revive him when his heart stopped. Sensei John _._,_._,_ Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. You automatically follow any threads you start or reply to. View This Message (#6664) https://groups.io/org/groupsio/mediareq/message/6664 Mute This Thread https://groups.io/mt/119291?uid=11408 Change Your Subscription https://groups.io/org/groupsio/mediareq/editsub?uid=11408 Unsubscribe From This Group https://groups.io/org/groupsio/mediareq/leave/21472/1962034455/xyzzy Group Home https://groups.io/org/groupsio/mediareq Contact Group Owner mailto:mediareq+ow...@groups.io Terms Of Service https://groups.io/static/tos _._,_._,_ --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Seeking Drakor Info
Hi guys. I was reading another thread and saw mention of Drakor, but the page doesn't tell you anything about the game. So just curious what is the idea of this game? Thanks, Maria --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?
Hello John, If anyone wants, I could contribute about 100 mb worth of zcode games. :) I mean it, though. I got about 700/800 of them. I can't help programming, though. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:59 pm Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games?
Hello, Well, OK. I registered. What do I click? I got the warning: We recommend players use Google Chrome Some icons are derived from originals by Lorc! Well, I use IE6 under windows CE. Is this even accessible to me? - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:03 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Hi, Another game you may like is http://www.drakor.com it's quite addictive but complex. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 10 August 2015 21:49 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Hello Rajmund, Yes, I still play a number of text based games. Although, admittedly it has been a few weeks since I played any recently. However, there are people here including myself that still play the old Inform based zcode games you speak of. I also occasionally play mud's like Alter Aeon and some browser based games like Sryth. Cheers! On 8/10/15, Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Well, the subject pretty much says it. Anyone still plays the old games, that have extentions like z5? Or am I looking at the wrong place? I'm stuck in a few games, and wonder whether anyone plays/played them and could help? Also, anyone into online text based role playing online games? Many thanks!! PS. I only have note takers to play, that's why I only play text based games. Rajmund Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?
Hello, Yes, different categories sound good. Well, young know where to find me, if I'm needed. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:20 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? If the project ets off the ground I'll certainly take you up on that. I'd probably sort IF games a bit differently than audiogames (because there's so many), but I do want to have them represented. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:16 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello John, If anyone wants, I could contribute about 100 mb worth of zcode games. :) I mean it, though. I got about 700/800 of them. I can't help programming, though. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:59 pm Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games?
A note taker doesn't run under the same principles as a web browser - I'd be doubtful of it working unless I'm misjudging the device. -- From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:38 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure,or online text games? I don't know as I don't use windows ce but I use ie 8 and it works fine for me. A lot of the stuff you click on aren't links as such it just looks like lines of text. Like inventory for example. But if you can click on that and bring up the inventory then it should work for you. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Rajmund Sent: 10 August 2015 22:32 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Hello, Well, OK. I registered. What do I click? I got the warning: We recommend players use Google Chrome Some icons are derived from originals by Lorc! Well, I use IE6 under windows CE. Is this even accessible to me? - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:03 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Hi, Another game you may like is http://www.drakor.com it's quite addictive but complex. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 10 August 2015 21:49 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Hello Rajmund, Yes, I still play a number of text based games. Although, admittedly it has been a few weeks since I played any recently. However, there are people here including myself that still play the old Inform based zcode games you speak of. I also occasionally play mud's like Alter Aeon and some browser based games like Sryth. Cheers! On 8/10/15, Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Well, the subject pretty much says it. Anyone still plays the old games, that have extentions like z5? Or am I looking at the wrong place? I'm stuck in a few games, and wonder whether anyone plays/played them and could help? Also, anyone into online text based role playing online games? Many thanks!! PS. I only have note takers to play, that's why I only play text based games. Rajmund Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the
Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games?
Hello Thomas, Well, a game that, not by even contacting the author helped, is uninvited.z5. Mind you, I'm stuck on curses.z5, too. I only play legend of the green dragon, and The Dark Grimoire, as them 2 seem to be more accessible with IE6. Since I have found web games, poor text adventures collect dust, but that is because I didn't have anywhere to come for help. But yeah, uninvited and curses have got me. If anyone wants either of the files, I can throw a dropbox link. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:49 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Hello Rajmund, Yes, I still play a number of text based games. Although, admittedly it has been a few weeks since I played any recently. However, there are people here including myself that still play the old Inform based zcode games you speak of. I also occasionally play mud's like Alter Aeon and some browser based games like Sryth. Cheers! Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?
If the project ets off the ground I'll certainly take you up on that. I'd probably sort IF games a bit differently than audiogames (because there's so many), but I do want to have them represented. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:16 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello John, If anyone wants, I could contribute about 100 mb worth of zcode games. :) I mean it, though. I got about 700/800 of them. I can't help programming, though. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:59 pm Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games?
Hello, Well, so, I was following the tutorial at: http://www.ifarchive.org/if-archive/solutions/CursesR16.sol There are a few more, but this was the one that took me the furthest. There seem to be bugs, though, I solved most, but one. I'm not exactly sure where it is, but I'm stuck. I just loaded my saved game, I'm in a cabinet room. And from here onwards, the walkthrough doesn't seem to be correct. Or is there a better one out there, that I'm not aware of? - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:16 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? I know curses pretty well - where are you stuck? -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:09 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure,or online text games? Hello Thomas, Well, a game that, not by even contacting the author helped, is uninvited.z5. Mind you, I'm stuck on curses.z5, too. I only play legend of the green dragon, and The Dark Grimoire, as them 2 seem to be more accessible with IE6. Since I have found web games, poor text adventures collect dust, but that is because I didn't have anywhere to come for help. But yeah, uninvited and curses have got me. If anyone wants either of the files, I can throw a dropbox link. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:49 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Hello Rajmund, Yes, I still play a number of text based games. Although, admittedly it has been a few weeks since I played any recently. However, there are people here including myself that still play the old Inform based zcode games you speak of. I also occasionally play mud's like Alter Aeon and some browser based games like Sryth. Cheers! Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games?
I don't know as I don't use windows ce but I use ie 8 and it works fine for me. A lot of the stuff you click on aren't links as such it just looks like lines of text. Like inventory for example. But if you can click on that and bring up the inventory then it should work for you. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Rajmund Sent: 10 August 2015 22:32 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Hello, Well, OK. I registered. What do I click? I got the warning: We recommend players use Google Chrome Some icons are derived from originals by Lorc! Well, I use IE6 under windows CE. Is this even accessible to me? - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:03 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Hi, Another game you may like is http://www.drakor.com it's quite addictive but complex. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 10 August 2015 21:49 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Hello Rajmund, Yes, I still play a number of text based games. Although, admittedly it has been a few weeks since I played any recently. However, there are people here including myself that still play the old Inform based zcode games you speak of. I also occasionally play mud's like Alter Aeon and some browser based games like Sryth. Cheers! On 8/10/15, Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Well, the subject pretty much says it. Anyone still plays the old games, that have extentions like z5? Or am I looking at the wrong place? I'm stuck in a few games, and wonder whether anyone plays/played them and could help? Also, anyone into online text based role playing online games? Many thanks!! PS. I only have note takers to play, that's why I only play text based games. Rajmund Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games?
If you haven't played in a while I'd recommend just starting afresh. If you have questions about a specific area I can help you out, but the walkthrough's probably better if you want an overview or complete answer. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:59 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure,or online text games? Hello John, I'm actually playing with a braillenote. I'm actually using the default walkthrough, and that's the one, that I'm stuck with. Would my saved file help? I lost track, haven't played in ages. Or, I could try and find where I'm lost. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:37 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Can you give me a little more info - I don't remember a cabinet room specifically. What puzzle are you stuck on? What have you done so far? If you'd like a walkthrough that works let me know, and I'll send you the one that came with my brailleNote. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:26 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure,or online text games? Hello, Well, so, I was following the tutorial at: http://www.ifarchive.org/if-archive/solutions/CursesR16.sol There are a few more, but this was the one that took me the furthest. There seem to be bugs, though, I solved most, but one. I'm not exactly sure where it is, but I'm stuck. I just loaded my saved game, I'm in a cabinet room. And from here onwards, the walkthrough doesn't seem to be correct. Or is there a better one out there, that I'm not aware of? - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:16 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? I know curses pretty well - where are you stuck? -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:09 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure,or online text games? Hello Thomas, Well, a game that, not by even contacting the author helped, is uninvited.z5. Mind you, I'm stuck on curses.z5, too. I only play legend of the green dragon, and The Dark Grimoire, as them 2 seem to be more accessible with IE6. Since I have found web games, poor text adventures collect dust, but that is because I didn't have anywhere to come for help. But yeah, uninvited and curses have got me. If anyone wants either of the files, I can throw a dropbox link. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:49 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Hello Rajmund, Yes, I still play a number of text based games. Although, admittedly it has been a few weeks since I played any recently. However, there are people here including myself that still play the old Inform based zcode games you speak of. I also occasionally play mud's like Alter Aeon and some browser based games like Sryth. Cheers! Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games?
Hi, Another game you may like is http://www.drakor.com it's quite addictive but complex. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 10 August 2015 21:49 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Hello Rajmund, Yes, I still play a number of text based games. Although, admittedly it has been a few weeks since I played any recently. However, there are people here including myself that still play the old Inform based zcode games you speak of. I also occasionally play mud's like Alter Aeon and some browser based games like Sryth. Cheers! On 8/10/15, Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Well, the subject pretty much says it. Anyone still plays the old games, that have extentions like z5? Or am I looking at the wrong place? I'm stuck in a few games, and wonder whether anyone plays/played them and could help? Also, anyone into online text based role playing online games? Many thanks!! PS. I only have note takers to play, that's why I only play text based games. Rajmund Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games?
Hello Dark, By browser based, I mean something like this: http://www.darkgrimoire.com - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:58 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? I've played interactive fiction games in my time, though I confess I haven't for quite a while sinse I got stick of five out of six games ending in a I don't know how to put type of situation. Also, what exactly do you mean by online text based games? do you mean browser games like Sryth, core exiles, kingdom of loathing? do you mean muds like alteraeon and clok? Beware the grue! Dark. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games?
I know curses pretty well - where are you stuck? -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:09 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure,or online text games? Hello Thomas, Well, a game that, not by even contacting the author helped, is uninvited.z5. Mind you, I'm stuck on curses.z5, too. I only play legend of the green dragon, and The Dark Grimoire, as them 2 seem to be more accessible with IE6. Since I have found web games, poor text adventures collect dust, but that is because I didn't have anywhere to come for help. But yeah, uninvited and curses have got me. If anyone wants either of the files, I can throw a dropbox link. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:49 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Hello Rajmund, Yes, I still play a number of text based games. Although, admittedly it has been a few weeks since I played any recently. However, there are people here including myself that still play the old Inform based zcode games you speak of. I also occasionally play mud's like Alter Aeon and some browser based games like Sryth. Cheers! Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?
I honestly have no clue how I'd organize IF titles - I suspect that'd be a work in progress for quite a while. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:41 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello, Yes, different categories sound good. Well, young know where to find me, if I'm needed. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:20 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? If the project ets off the ground I'll certainly take you up on that. I'd probably sort IF games a bit differently than audiogames (because there's so many), but I do want to have them represented. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:16 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello John, If anyone wants, I could contribute about 100 mb worth of zcode games. :) I mean it, though. I got about 700/800 of them. I can't help programming, though. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:59 pm Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?
Hello, Just put them in categories, and after that, name from a to z. That should work. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:44 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? I honestly have no clue how I'd organize IF titles - I suspect that'd be a work in progress for quite a while. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:41 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello, Yes, different categories sound good. Well, young know where to find me, if I'm needed. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:20 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? If the project ets off the ground I'll certainly take you up on that. I'd probably sort IF games a bit differently than audiogames (because there's so many), but I do want to have them represented. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:16 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello John, If anyone wants, I could contribute about 100 mb worth of zcode games. :) I mean it, though. I got about 700/800 of them. I can't help programming, though. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:59 pm Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the
Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games?
Hello, I registered. Now, what should I click? If it works with IE8, I should manage, too. But there was nothing like create a character, or anything. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:39 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? I don't know as I don't use windows ce but I use ie 8 and it works fine for me. A lot of the stuff you click on aren't links as such it just looks like lines of text. Like inventory for example. But if you can click on that and bring up the inventory then it should work for you. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Rajmund Sent: 10 August 2015 22:32 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Hello, Well, OK. I registered. What do I click? I got the warning: We recommend players use Google Chrome Some icons are derived from originals by Lorc! Well, I use IE6 under windows CE. Is this even accessible to me? - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:03 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Hi, Another game you may like is http://www.drakor.com it's quite addictive but complex. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 10 August 2015 21:49 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Hello Rajmund, Yes, I still play a number of text based games. Although, admittedly it has been a few weeks since I played any recently. However, there are people here including myself that still play the old Inform based zcode games you speak of. I also occasionally play mud's like Alter Aeon and some browser based games like Sryth. Cheers! On 8/10/15, Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Well, the subject pretty much says it. Anyone still plays the old games, that have extentions like z5? Or am I looking at the wrong place? I'm stuck in a few games, and wonder whether anyone plays/played them and could help? Also, anyone into online text based role playing online games? Many thanks!! PS. I only have note takers to play, that's why I only play text based games. Rajmund Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are
Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games?
Hello John, It does work with a few browser based games. Hence I'm trying. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:42 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? A note taker doesn't run under the same principles as a web browser - I'd be doubtful of it working unless I'm misjudging the device. -- From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:38 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure,or online text games? I don't know as I don't use windows ce but I use ie 8 and it works fine for me. A lot of the stuff you click on aren't links as such it just looks like lines of text. Like inventory for example. But if you can click on that and bring up the inventory then it should work for you. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Rajmund Sent: 10 August 2015 22:32 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Hello, Well, OK. I registered. What do I click? I got the warning: We recommend players use Google Chrome Some icons are derived from originals by Lorc! Well, I use IE6 under windows CE. Is this even accessible to me? - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:03 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Hi, Another game you may like is http://www.drakor.com it's quite addictive but complex. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 10 August 2015 21:49 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Hello Rajmund, Yes, I still play a number of text based games. Although, admittedly it has been a few weeks since I played any recently. However, there are people here including myself that still play the old Inform based zcode games you speak of. I also occasionally play mud's like Alter Aeon and some browser based games like Sryth. Cheers! On 8/10/15, Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Well, the subject pretty much says it. Anyone still plays the old games, that have extentions like z5? Or am I looking at the wrong place? I'm stuck in a few games, and wonder whether anyone plays/played them and could help? Also, anyone into online text based role playing online games? Many thanks!! PS. I only have note takers to play, that's why I only play text based games. Rajmund Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send
Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: Jim Kitchens games
Hi Dark, I would suppose submissions could be sent to the webmaster, Joshua Griffith, and he could add them to the Kitchensinc.net site. On 8/10/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: That is extremely good to know and I'm very glad of that fact. As I said on audiogames.net, With the amount of people grabbing up jim's games ad wanting to host them, it is more likely they will be seen everywhere! than not available anywhere, however I do like the thought of people not just being able to play jim's games but reading the descriptions of them that he wrote before they download them. Just one question. It is possible that people will create more golf courses, trivia question files or monopoly board configurations in the future, (off and on I've been working on a Doctor Who trivia set). It'd be nice if these could also be added to Jim's site, though if not they could of course be hosted elsewhere. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jim's nfl football - Josh K
Hello, Was it actually 400 mb? - Original Message - From: Shaun Everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:16 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim's nfl football - Josh K well I found the mail in gmail and deleted it before it downloaded, it, yeah 400mb of text would take ages to open. On 10/08/2015 4:17 p.m., dark wrote: Glad it didn't have a virus, I had the same issue and am currently running an avg scan just in case. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:55 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim's nfl football - Josh K Hi John, the message in question seems to be virus and malware free. It appears to be just a huge log file of Jim's NFL from what I can tell. On 8/9/15, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, I just received an email from Josh Kennedy (not Josh k - this may be important), with a listed size of about 1100 kb, and subject something to do with jim's nfl football (I deleted the message, and don't have the exact line anymore). As soon as I tried to read the message my mail client went ballistic; fully loading up my processor and sending memory usage through the roof (fellow nerds that's 400mb). I'm not sure if this was just the world's largest game log file, or if it was something more sinister, but I'd advise anybody who got the message to avoid opening it. I'm hoping that this really was just a bad decision to send an ungodly large log through email and not some kind of virus on list, but given the way my machine reacted I figured it'd probably be best to post an alert about it just in case (if you do open the message, killing my mail client seems to have fixed the issue). I'd also note that I'm not trying to accuse anybody here - rather to offer a note of caution and a request that we try not to post logs t're larger than a bunch of novels put together. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: Jim Kitchens games
Good to know, thanks for the update. -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 16:55 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Fwd: Jim Kitchens games Hello all, Here is a message from Joshua Griffith regarding Jim's site and games. I thought any interested parties should read this. -- Forwarded message -- From: Joshua Griffith webmas...@jgriffith.com Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 06:21:26 -0500 Subject: Jim Kitchens games To: gamers-ow...@audyssey.org Just wanted to drop you a note regarding Kitchensinc.net. I've noticed a spike in the download usage on the Kitchensinc.net website, so just to clarify this for those downloading his games with the expectation that they will no longer be available to download. I will not be removing Jims site from my hosting package. His site will remain intact and his games will remain available, and free to download for many years to come. Sincerely, Joshua Griffith. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] game archive project?
Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games?
Can you give me a little more info - I don't remember a cabinet room specifically. What puzzle are you stuck on? What have you done so far? If you'd like a walkthrough that works let me know, and I'll send you the one that came with my brailleNote. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:26 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure,or online text games? Hello, Well, so, I was following the tutorial at: http://www.ifarchive.org/if-archive/solutions/CursesR16.sol There are a few more, but this was the one that took me the furthest. There seem to be bugs, though, I solved most, but one. I'm not exactly sure where it is, but I'm stuck. I just loaded my saved game, I'm in a cabinet room. And from here onwards, the walkthrough doesn't seem to be correct. Or is there a better one out there, that I'm not aware of? - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:16 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? I know curses pretty well - where are you stuck? -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:09 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure,or online text games? Hello Thomas, Well, a game that, not by even contacting the author helped, is uninvited.z5. Mind you, I'm stuck on curses.z5, too. I only play legend of the green dragon, and The Dark Grimoire, as them 2 seem to be more accessible with IE6. Since I have found web games, poor text adventures collect dust, but that is because I didn't have anywhere to come for help. But yeah, uninvited and curses have got me. If anyone wants either of the files, I can throw a dropbox link. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:49 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Hello Rajmund, Yes, I still play a number of text based games. Although, admittedly it has been a few weeks since I played any recently. However, there are people here including myself that still play the old Inform based zcode games you speak of. I also occasionally play mud's like Alter Aeon and some browser based games like Sryth. Cheers! Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games?
Hello John, I'm actually playing with a braillenote. I'm actually using the default walkthrough, and that's the one, that I'm stuck with. Would my saved file help? I lost track, haven't played in ages. Or, I could try and find where I'm lost. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:37 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Can you give me a little more info - I don't remember a cabinet room specifically. What puzzle are you stuck on? What have you done so far? If you'd like a walkthrough that works let me know, and I'll send you the one that came with my brailleNote. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:26 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure,or online text games? Hello, Well, so, I was following the tutorial at: http://www.ifarchive.org/if-archive/solutions/CursesR16.sol There are a few more, but this was the one that took me the furthest. There seem to be bugs, though, I solved most, but one. I'm not exactly sure where it is, but I'm stuck. I just loaded my saved game, I'm in a cabinet room. And from here onwards, the walkthrough doesn't seem to be correct. Or is there a better one out there, that I'm not aware of? - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:16 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? I know curses pretty well - where are you stuck? -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:09 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure,or online text games? Hello Thomas, Well, a game that, not by even contacting the author helped, is uninvited.z5. Mind you, I'm stuck on curses.z5, too. I only play legend of the green dragon, and The Dark Grimoire, as them 2 seem to be more accessible with IE6. Since I have found web games, poor text adventures collect dust, but that is because I didn't have anywhere to come for help. But yeah, uninvited and curses have got me. If anyone wants either of the files, I can throw a dropbox link. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:49 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Hello Rajmund, Yes, I still play a number of text based games. Although, admittedly it has been a few weeks since I played any recently. However, there are people here including myself that still play the old Inform based zcode games you speak of. I also occasionally play mud's like Alter Aeon and some browser based games like Sryth. Cheers! Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched
Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?
The problem with organizing games based on the file name is that said name is almost always cryptic. If I'm going to try to organize the games in a way that makes sense, I'm going to have to rename pretty much every single one of them. Honestly, making a proper archive of IF titles is probably going to be incredibly difficult, and the more I think about it the more I start to wonder if its beyond the scope of what I'm trying to do. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 18:01 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello, Just put them in categories, and after that, name from a to z. That should work. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:44 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? I honestly have no clue how I'd organize IF titles - I suspect that'd be a work in progress for quite a while. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:41 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello, Yes, different categories sound good. Well, young know where to find me, if I'm needed. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:20 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? If the project ets off the ground I'll certainly take you up on that. I'd probably sort IF games a bit differently than audiogames (because there's so many), but I do want to have them represented. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:16 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello John, If anyone wants, I could contribute about 100 mb worth of zcode games. :) I mean it, though. I got about 700/800 of them. I can't help programming, though. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:59 pm Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are
Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away:
The reason that a newer installer is wanted is that the old files do not rock. Look at your lack of punctuation and how it changes what I think you meant. The old files do not rock. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Shaun Everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away: well that will rock if they are. if we can abandon the indevidual installers but still have something that will install all the libraries and stuff without relying on old files that will rock. On 9/08/2015 10:37 p.m., Darren Duff wrote: Someone is making a mega installer for all of his games. It should be out tomorrow. will keep the list updated. Darren Duff. amateur radio station KK4AHX. Follow me on twitter @darren_duff friend me on face book http://www.facebook.com/DarrenLDuff. primary E-mail duff...@gmail.com Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com skype duffman31279 On 8/9/2015 12:46 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Aprone, The way I see it the more people who can share the files the better. While I also intend to mirror his site and games I would like to perhaps repackage them and give them better Windows installers. While the method he uses is functional it doesn't really cut it for today's computing environment now that 64 bit Windows uses the Program Files (x86) folder rather than the older Program Files folder and that just confuses people to no end. So a new installer that would pick the correct one would be an improvement, and I would like to repackage the games to have a more updated installer. So perhaps we can work on something like that besides just mirroring them as is. Also I heard you live three hours away from Chardon, and if you can it would be nice to have another VB 6 dev take control of his source. While I could probably do it I am pretty busy and have a lot on my plate and wouldn't be up to taking on that many games any time soon. Plus while I know VB 6 it has never been my forte anyway. Cheers! On 8/8/15, Jeremy Kaldobsky jer...@kaldobsky.com wrote: I've grabbed a copy of his website and all of the downloads, and I plan to host them on my site. I didn't realize anyone else had volunteered to do so, so hopefully I'm not pushing anyone over by doing this. I suppose it can only be a good thing to have Jim's audiogames legacy hosted in a few places, just in case.I noticed that all but 1 of his GMHA board meeting recordings is missing. His Yahtzee game, winyaht2.exe keeps getting flagged by my Avast antivirus. Can anyone confirm this, or is it just a false positive? I want to be 100% sure it is safe before I go hosting it on my own site. I'd feel bad if anyone was harmed by something they downloaded from me, even if I wasn't the original author of the file. - Aprone --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6086 / Virus Database: 4392/10411 - Release Date: 08/10/15 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please
Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?
My concern with providing official access to the keygen is that I don't know who has legal access to it. I suppose from a technical standpoint its only piracy if you actually use the generator - but I'm not sure that's a line I particularly want to walk, especially if I'm trying to make this archive something the whole community knows about. It'd be different if I was considering offering it to a single person, but if I'm going to say email me and I'll send you whatever you want then I want to be a lot more careful. I want the archive to be a place people can go to get games - but I also don't want to get sued. My stance on this is a bit more paranoid than some - I've seen a number of different links for bsc floating around - but especially if I'm acting in an official capacity as archive manager as opposed to myself I'd rather be caucious. -- From: Damien Sykes-Pendleton dam...@dcpendleton.plus.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 18:28 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi John, I would certainly like to see something like that, and I would certainly be willing to contribute what I have. One thing I would say though, is that since the BSC software is abandoned, and the key generator was once sold, couldn't we get access to that alongside the other stuff? I say we either give full availability to the product where such availability has been granted, or don't host any kind of paid material at all if it can no longer be purchased. I say this because I know how I would feel, both emotionally as a potential customer and conscientiously as a developer, having a game which I know has more functionality than the demo allows and not being able to play it. I can understand it from both points of view. Cheers. Damien. -Original Message- From: john Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 9:59 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games?
Hello Dark, Are they text, though? I can't play audio. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 11:41 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Yes, that is what I was thining. There are several of those sorts of things kicking around, though ie6 on a note taker might be interesting. If you go to www.whitestick.co.uk you can find a list of games to play online that includes various accessible games. I would personally recommend several on that list in addition tto the ones you have tried, warriors 2, kingdom of loathing and metroplexities for example. Puppet nightamres is extremely good but very complex to play, the same with the recently discovered drakor, indeed those might be problematic on a note taker. Astro galaxy is also good thoug I know you need a screen reader and browser for that one sinse it has lots of labeled images and controls. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure,or online text games? Hello Dark, By browser based, I mean something like this: http://www.darkgrimoire.com - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:58 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? I've played interactive fiction games in my time, though I confess I haven't for quite a while sinse I got stick of five out of six games ending in a I don't know how to put type of situation. Also, what exactly do you mean by online text based games? do you mean browser games like Sryth, core exiles, kingdom of loathing? do you mean muds like alteraeon and clok? Beware the grue! Dark. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games?
Hello John, Actually, the sense seems to handle images, but the rest, you're right about. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Tuesday, 11 August 2015 12:12 am Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? @dark: The braillenote supports pretty much only plain text, such as ffproject.org. Anything more complicated - or anything with text that changes on the page without clicking a link - is going to present an insurmountable problem. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 19:08 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure,or online text games? Hello Dark, Are they text, though? I can't play audio. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 11:41 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Yes, that is what I was thining. There are several of those sorts of things kicking around, though ie6 on a note taker might be interesting. If you go to www.whitestick.co.uk you can find a list of games to play online that includes various accessible games. I would personally recommend several on that list in addition tto the ones you have tried, warriors 2, kingdom of loathing and metroplexities for example. Puppet nightamres is extremely good but very complex to play, the same with the recently discovered drakor, indeed those might be problematic on a note taker. Astro galaxy is also good thoug I know you need a screen reader and browser for that one sinse it has lots of labeled images and controls. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure,or online text games? Hello Dark, By browser based, I mean something like this: http://www.darkgrimoire.com - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:58 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? I've played interactive fiction games in my time, though I confess I haven't for quite a while sinse I got stick of five out of six games ending in a I don't know how to put type of situation. Also, what exactly do you mean by online text based games? do you mean browser games like Sryth, core exiles, kingdom of loathing? do you mean muds like alteraeon and clok? Beware the grue! Dark. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille
Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games?
With the exception of swamp and the rs playroom, they are text, and with the exception of those listed as muds, they are browser games. Also note you can go to www.audiogames.net and use the search games link. You can search for a category such as mmorpgs, and specify text and not audio, though some of the games listed on whitestick haven't been added to the audiogames.net database yet hence why I suggested you tried whitestick first. Hth. Dark. - Original Message - From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 12:08 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure,or online text games? Hello Dark, Are they text, though? I can't play audio. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 11:41 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Yes, that is what I was thining. There are several of those sorts of things kicking around, though ie6 on a note taker might be interesting. If you go to www.whitestick.co.uk you can find a list of games to play online that includes various accessible games. I would personally recommend several on that list in addition tto the ones you have tried, warriors 2, kingdom of loathing and metroplexities for example. Puppet nightamres is extremely good but very complex to play, the same with the recently discovered drakor, indeed those might be problematic on a note taker. Astro galaxy is also good thoug I know you need a screen reader and browser for that one sinse it has lots of labeled images and controls. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure,or online text games? Hello Dark, By browser based, I mean something like this: http://www.darkgrimoire.com - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:58 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? I've played interactive fiction games in my time, though I confess I haven't for quite a while sinse I got stick of five out of six games ending in a I don't know how to put type of situation. Also, what exactly do you mean by online text based games? do you mean browser games like Sryth, core exiles, kingdom of loathing? do you mean muds like alteraeon and clok? Beware the grue! Dark. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away:
lol! no word yet on the installer, but I am told that there will be an option to either install general games or all including adult games. Darren Duff. amateur radio station KK4AHX. Follow me on twitter @darren_duff friend me on face book http://www.facebook.com/DarrenLDuff. primary E-mail duff...@gmail.com Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com skype duffman31279 On 8/10/2015 7:01 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: The reason that a newer installer is wanted is that the old files do not rock. Look at your lack of punctuation and how it changes what I think you meant. The old files do not rock. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Shaun Everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away: well that will rock if they are. if we can abandon the indevidual installers but still have something that will install all the libraries and stuff without relying on old files that will rock. On 9/08/2015 10:37 p.m., Darren Duff wrote: Someone is making a mega installer for all of his games. It should be out tomorrow. will keep the list updated. Darren Duff. amateur radio station KK4AHX. Follow me on twitter @darren_duff friend me on face book http://www.facebook.com/DarrenLDuff. primary E-mail duff...@gmail.com Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com skype duffman31279 On 8/9/2015 12:46 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Aprone, The way I see it the more people who can share the files the better. While I also intend to mirror his site and games I would like to perhaps repackage them and give them better Windows installers. While the method he uses is functional it doesn't really cut it for today's computing environment now that 64 bit Windows uses the Program Files (x86) folder rather than the older Program Files folder and that just confuses people to no end. So a new installer that would pick the correct one would be an improvement, and I would like to repackage the games to have a more updated installer. So perhaps we can work on something like that besides just mirroring them as is. Also I heard you live three hours away from Chardon, and if you can it would be nice to have another VB 6 dev take control of his source. While I could probably do it I am pretty busy and have a lot on my plate and wouldn't be up to taking on that many games any time soon. Plus while I know VB 6 it has never been my forte anyway. Cheers! On 8/8/15, Jeremy Kaldobsky jer...@kaldobsky.com wrote: I've grabbed a copy of his website and all of the downloads, and I plan to host them on my site. I didn't realize anyone else had volunteered to do so, so hopefully I'm not pushing anyone over by doing this. I suppose it can only be a good thing to have Jim's audiogames legacy hosted in a few places, just in case.I noticed that all but 1 of his GMHA board meeting recordings is missing. His Yahtzee game, winyaht2.exe keeps getting flagged by my Avast antivirus. Can anyone confirm this, or is it just a false positive? I want to be 100% sure it is safe before I go hosting it on my own site. I'd feel bad if anyone was harmed by something they downloaded from me, even if I wasn't the original author of the file. - Aprone --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6086 / Virus Database: 4392/10411 - Release Date: 08/10/15 --- Gamers mailing
Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games?
Well www.ffproject.org is not the only place for gamebooks or games that are mostly text. There is also age of fable http://www.apolitical.info/webgame/index.php?mode=0 Chronicles of arborell: http://www.arborell.com/ and project aon: http://www.projectaon.org/new.htm It is also possible at least some of the games on whitestick might work, for example I know there are several legend of the green dragon varients such as improbable island, and starship traders is about as cut down as you can get. hth. Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?
Hi John, I would certainly like to see something like that, and I would certainly be willing to contribute what I have. One thing I would say though, is that since the BSC software is abandoned, and the key generator was once sold, couldn't we get access to that alongside the other stuff? I say we either give full availability to the product where such availability has been granted, or don't host any kind of paid material at all if it can no longer be purchased. I say this because I know how I would feel, both emotionally as a potential customer and conscientiously as a developer, having a game which I know has more functionality than the demo allows and not being able to play it. I can understand it from both points of view. Cheers. Damien. -Original Message- From: john Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 9:59 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games?
Yes, that is what I was thining. There are several of those sorts of things kicking around, though ie6 on a note taker might be interesting. If you go to www.whitestick.co.uk you can find a list of games to play online that includes various accessible games. I would personally recommend several on that list in addition tto the ones you have tried, warriors 2, kingdom of loathing and metroplexities for example. Puppet nightamres is extremely good but very complex to play, the same with the recently discovered drakor, indeed those might be problematic on a note taker. Astro galaxy is also good thoug I know you need a screen reader and browser for that one sinse it has lots of labeled images and controls. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure,or online text games? Hello Dark, By browser based, I mean something like this: http://www.darkgrimoire.com - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:58 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? I've played interactive fiction games in my time, though I confess I haven't for quite a while sinse I got stick of five out of six games ending in a I don't know how to put type of situation. Also, what exactly do you mean by online text based games? do you mean browser games like Sryth, core exiles, kingdom of loathing? do you mean muds like alteraeon and clok? Beware the grue! Dark. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Seeking Drakor Info
Hi Maria. Drakor is an rpg game with a very heavy emphasis on building and crafting items, and a rather unique combat system. You can wander around and there are several quests to do, each area is described and combat is interesting, it works a bit like a card game. A lot of processes in the game take time and drakor generally plays far slower than something like Sryth, for example you gather resources on a tick based basis so you click mine and will mine something new every minute or so, even travelling to a new location takes six seconds per move. It's perhaps not everyone's cup of tea, but it's very well designed and worth a look, though bare in mind there are very few links and standard controls and you'll need to do lots of clicking on hotspots, although they are all labled in text. hth. Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Seeking Drakor Info
I've wondered the same thing myself. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Maria S Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 3:17 PM To: Gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Seeking Drakor Info Hi guys. I was reading another thread and saw mention of Drakor, but the page doesn't tell you anything about the game. So just curious what is the idea of this game? Thanks, Maria --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games?
I believe someone had a similar problem with astro galaxy on a note taker, namely it wasn't reading all of the stuff on the page like the alt text for images and it wasn't able to click on the text hotspots the way you can with a browser and standard screen reader. I'm not sure sinse I've not used a note taker myself, I just recall this as a similar issue coming up before. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure,or online text games? A note taker doesn't run under the same principles as a web browser - I'd be doubtful of it working unless I'm misjudging the device. -- From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:38 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure,or online text games? I don't know as I don't use windows ce but I use ie 8 and it works fine for me. A lot of the stuff you click on aren't links as such it just looks like lines of text. Like inventory for example. But if you can click on that and bring up the inventory then it should work for you. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Rajmund Sent: 10 August 2015 22:32 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Hello, Well, OK. I registered. What do I click? I got the warning: We recommend players use Google Chrome Some icons are derived from originals by Lorc! Well, I use IE6 under windows CE. Is this even accessible to me? - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:03 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Hi, Another game you may like is http://www.drakor.com it's quite addictive but complex. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 10 August 2015 21:49 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Hello Rajmund, Yes, I still play a number of text based games. Although, admittedly it has been a few weeks since I played any recently. However, there are people here including myself that still play the old Inform based zcode games you speak of. I also occasionally play mud's like Alter Aeon and some browser based games like Sryth. Cheers! On 8/10/15, Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Well, the subject pretty much says it. Anyone still plays the old games, that have extentions like z5? Or am I looking at the wrong place? I'm stuck in a few games, and wonder whether anyone plays/played them and could help? Also, anyone into online text based role playing online games? Many thanks!! PS. I only have note takers to play, that's why I only play text based games. Rajmund Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be
Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?
Hello, Most (not all) games have proper titles. Although, I can see where you're coming from. PS. As for my message, I'll start fresh, and I'll let you know how I do. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 11:06 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? The problem with organizing games based on the file name is that said name is almost always cryptic. If I'm going to try to organize the games in a way that makes sense, I'm going to have to rename pretty much every single one of them. Honestly, making a proper archive of IF titles is probably going to be incredibly difficult, and the more I think about it the more I start to wonder if its beyond the scope of what I'm trying to do. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 18:01 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello, Just put them in categories, and after that, name from a to z. That should work. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:44 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? I honestly have no clue how I'd organize IF titles - I suspect that'd be a work in progress for quite a while. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:41 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello, Yes, different categories sound good. Well, young know where to find me, if I'm needed. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:20 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? If the project ets off the ground I'll certainly take you up on that. I'd probably sort IF games a bit differently than audiogames (because there's so many), but I do want to have them represented. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:16 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello John, If anyone wants, I could contribute about 100 mb worth of zcode games. :) I mean it, though. I got about 700/800 of them. I can't help programming, though. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:59 pm Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do
Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games?
@dark: The braillenote supports pretty much only plain text, such as ffproject.org. Anything more complicated - or anything with text that changes on the page without clicking a link - is going to present an insurmountable problem. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 19:08 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure,or online text games? Hello Dark, Are they text, though? I can't play audio. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 11:41 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? Yes, that is what I was thining. There are several of those sorts of things kicking around, though ie6 on a note taker might be interesting. If you go to www.whitestick.co.uk you can find a list of games to play online that includes various accessible games. I would personally recommend several on that list in addition tto the ones you have tried, warriors 2, kingdom of loathing and metroplexities for example. Puppet nightamres is extremely good but very complex to play, the same with the recently discovered drakor, indeed those might be problematic on a note taker. Astro galaxy is also good thoug I know you need a screen reader and browser for that one sinse it has lots of labeled images and controls. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure,or online text games? Hello Dark, By browser based, I mean something like this: http://www.darkgrimoire.com - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:58 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games? I've played interactive fiction games in my time, though I confess I haven't for quite a while sinse I got stick of five out of six games ending in a I don't know how to put type of situation. Also, what exactly do you mean by online text based games? do you mean browser games like Sryth, core exiles, kingdom of loathing? do you mean muds like alteraeon and clok? Beware the grue! Dark. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] audiogames archive
I'd like to start figuring out who can help me in compiling the games archive. If you're interested in supplying files, please contact me off list with the following: *a brief overview of what you have; something like: Total 7.8gb, mostly well-known and recent developers. Windows only, limited to no interactive fiction or dos-based games. *Info on your file transfer capabilities, something like: I have 1gb of available upload space, and can leave files up for a max of two weeks. *How you'd prefer to work, something like: I'd rather just zip up a bunch of installers and let you process them, as opposed to sending specific files. *How well you know where your games came from/who made what, something like: I know everything produced in the last five years, but nothing before that. *Whether you'd be willing to help me in organizing the archive, in addition to supplying installers. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] RailRacer?
Hi there, Not sure if I’ve missed anything, I haven’t been around here for a while. Does anyone know what happened to RailRacer? I can’t seem to be able to download it at all. The developer’s website doesn’t even refer to it and there is no contact info. I played that game once and would really like to do so again if at all possible. Thanks. Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Hi Dark, I believe your Windows analogy is pretty close a comparison as we can get. Not exactly the same situation, but close enough for comparison that the concepts carry over. As you said Leasy costs no more than it ever has and I believe Brian has purchased Q9 to include in Leasey as a sort of freebie the way the Windows games are for Windows users. Although, I believe a standard Windows DVD costs like $125 nobody can accuse Microsoft of essentially charging $125 for Solitaire, Hearts, Minesweeper, and their other games simply because they are considered by Microsoft as add-ons or freebies included with the Windows package as a whole. From their perspective you are not so much buying those games as you are buying an operating system complete with multiple programs such as media players, text editors, games, web browsers, etc. To accuse them of selling games for $125 wouldn't make sense from their point of view. Leasey seems to be a similar situation. Brian sees, rightly or wrongly, Q9 as being another nifty add-on to Leasey. He does not see it as selling a game since he is selling a bunch of scripts as well as a package or suite of programs to the end user. You buy one you get all, and thus he sees it as a package deal even though the majority of gamers just want the game itself. The only thing I can think of that is sort of similar to this situation is Internet Explorer. Long ago, we are talking the early 1990's, Internet Explorer use to be a stand alone program. A person went out and purchased a computer with say MS Dos 6.2 and Windows 3.1 on it, and had to buy Internet Explorer separate if they wanted it. When Windows 95 came out Microsoft bundled Internet Explorer as part of the Windows 95 release, and stopped selling Internet Explorer to Windows 3.1 customers. Unfair some might say, but from Microsoft's point of view they were giving it away for free now that it was bundled in their latest operating system rather than sold separately. Some 20 years later nobody cares because it has for the most part all been forgotten about, and I suspect there are many on this very list that have never used anything prior to Windows 95 so don't know or remember the days when Internet Explorer was not a freebie. I said all that to make the point that Brian is undoubtedly viewing Q9 as some freebie, an add-on, to his Leasey package and does not consider the money he is losing by not selling it separately. I suspect that he purchased it with the soul aim of boosting sales of Leasey, of having exclusive content, that can only be gotten by getting Leasey. While that is rotten, unfair, sucks, I can remember similar cases where companies like Microsoft have done the same sort of thing but people have forgotten about it. Leasey customers are unlikely to know or care that Q9 was once sold separately and over time the people who know and remember that will slowly fade. Even if they don't they have no control over the situation so at this point I consider the matter a mute point since nobody here can make a difference. Cheers! On 8/10/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Josh. I've heard this arguement that the game is now worth 200 usd before, but that is just looking at it from one perspective. From Brian Hartgen's point of view he has bought Q9 to essentially be a bonus. It's like the solitare and other games that comes with windows. It would be foolish to say that microsoft are selling a solitare game for $300 (or however much a windows install costs these days), it's that microsoft are selling windows as the main operating system and solitare, pinball, spades etc come as a freee extra. That is how I believe Brian Hartgen is viewing Q9. he sells Leasy for 200 usd which is the same price he's always sold it for, and people get a fun little game as a look at this freebee! item. The problem though is Q9 is not like solitare. it's not just a fun little time waster, it is a well crafted game that has had significant work put into it, which is exactly why I accuse Brian of devaluing what he has bought, indeed while I hold Philip generally blaimeless in the matter, I am extremely sorry that Philip didn't sell the rights to the game to another, more responsable person who recognized the worth of what they had rather than thinking oh game, worth not much, I'll throw it in for free I'm also dissappointed that this moron Brian, even though he clearly did not know the value of what he had didn't change his thinking once he recieved so many complaints. Whether he is hoping people will buy leasy just for the game, or whether (as I personally believe is more likely), he is sticking to his guns just to be bloody minded after recieving lots of cryticism becuase he assumes he knows best I can't say. Either way it clearly shows me that he's not just ignorant of games but ignorant of good business if once he gets something which people planely want to buy, he refuses to sell it individually. As
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
I agree with you tom. I like the game, but itsno problem if its moved away somewhere. On 10/08/2015 12:29 p.m., Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Shaun, That's a bit obvious. No one is complaining about Q9 but the way the transfer was handled and the way Brian Hartgen has decided to distribute the game now that he has it. The point in my message you responded to is that if people don't like the new distribution policy that the game could be cloned, a new version developed, without the Leasey and Jaws restrictions. Obviously the clone would not be the same as the original due to copyrights but something very similar could be developed if that were something someone wanted to do. I'm not sure I like the game quite that much to rewrite it myself though. A lot of the elements in Q9 are pretty generic. We have a forest level, cave level, mountain level, and so forth. The enemies are gorillas, bats, rhinos, leopards, and wolves. Weapons are mainly a club and a slingshot. Point being that stuff is so common and generic that it is not copyrightable. The only things that are copyrightable is the sounds, music, and the little alien Q9 himself. If we created a game using a caveman doing the same things the game play could be identical to Q9 and not be considered copyright infringement. Make sense? On 8/8/15, Shaun Everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Heck I don't think q9 was the issue. for its time q9 rocked. I don't know if I'd buy q9 again or a game like it. I think the issue tom was more how it was sold and who got it. In this case a restricted platform which is what is getting people in a hustle about is the big thing. I don't think people care that its sold but to someone that needs jaws and well has a package which is quite expensive and way over the origional game price is the problem and that it happened in a sudden fashion. I think I have covered all bases. oh the archive for kitchensinc is now up and ready to rock. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games?
Hi all, Well, the subject pretty much says it. Anyone still plays the old games, that have extentions like z5? Or am I looking at the wrong place? I'm stuck in a few games, and wonder whether anyone plays/played them and could help? Also, anyone into online text based role playing online games? Many thanks!! PS. I only have note takers to play, that's why I only play text based games. Rajmund Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jim's nfl football - Josh K
Hi Rajmund, The message Josh sent contained the logs for 20 football games. Every play was recorded and logged by the game which is what he attempted to forward onto the list, but apparently failed because a lot of e-mail clients couldn't open it. \ On 8/10/15, Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Thomas, Strangely, I actually managed to open my EML file with file manager (since it killed email) and I found nothing meaningful through a basic word pad kind of thing. So wonder what it really contained? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jim's nfl football - Josh K
Nods, I suspect my computer would've eventually managed to display the file, but I didn't feel like waiting forever or destabilizing my OS just to see it. The reason I pointed out a difference in the email name is that it may have been coming from a different email address, potentially a compromised email or from some other source attempting to impersonate Josh. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 4:19 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim's nfl football - Josh K Hello John, New buy here, by the way, it certainly sent the braille sense into hell. I had to reset. After 3 crashes, I just deleted the 1.1 mb EML file. Glad it was the file, not the sense, though. PS. Thought Josh K's last name was Kenedy? - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 1:51 am Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim's nfl football - Josh K Hi list, I just received an email from Josh Kennedy (not Josh k - this may be important), with a listed size of about 1100 kb, and subject something to do with jim's nfl football (I deleted the message, and don't have the exact line anymore). As soon as I tried to read the message my mail client went ballistic; fully loading up my processor and sending memory usage through the roof (fellow nerds that's 400mb). I'm not sure if this was just the world's largest game log file, or if it was something more sinister, but I'd advise anybody who got the message to avoid opening it. I'm hoping that this really was just a bad decision to send an ungodly large log through email and not some kind of virus on list, but given the way my machine reacted I figured it'd probably be best to post an alert about it just in case (if you do open the message, killing my mail client seems to have fixed the issue). I'd also note that I'm not trying to accuse anybody here - rather to offer a note of caution and a request that we try not to post logs t're larger than a bunch of novels put together. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] rail racer
Somebody had asked about where to find rail racer. A bit of digging turned up the following (confirmed valid) link: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62157990/Games/RailRacerDemo10Setup.exe I'll also be adding this to the games archive, so it'll be available through that avenue as well, once its off the ground. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?
Oh awww darn! I had a pretty good selection oh well if not all but all of the IF titles, twice. Guess what? Both my desktops got whammed one with graphic parn out of nowhere and the other went silent after letting fam use it in my absence. I could've contributed. Well, I'd love to see this come to fruition because I became frustrated trying to find installers in the past. Itd be great to be able to ask for a game and get a working direct executable link. On 8/10/15, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: My concern with providing official access to the keygen is that I don't know who has legal access to it. I suppose from a technical standpoint its only piracy if you actually use the generator - but I'm not sure that's a line I particularly want to walk, especially if I'm trying to make this archive something the whole community knows about. It'd be different if I was considering offering it to a single person, but if I'm going to say email me and I'll send you whatever you want then I want to be a lot more careful. I want the archive to be a place people can go to get games - but I also don't want to get sued. My stance on this is a bit more paranoid than some - I've seen a number of different links for bsc floating around - but especially if I'm acting in an official capacity as archive manager as opposed to myself I'd rather be caucious. -- From: Damien Sykes-Pendleton dam...@dcpendleton.plus.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 18:28 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi John, I would certainly like to see something like that, and I would certainly be willing to contribute what I have. One thing I would say though, is that since the BSC software is abandoned, and the key generator was once sold, couldn't we get access to that alongside the other stuff? I say we either give full availability to the product where such availability has been granted, or don't host any kind of paid material at all if it can no longer be purchased. I say this because I know how I would feel, both emotionally as a potential customer and conscientiously as a developer, having a game which I know has more functionality than the demo allows and not being able to play it. I can understand it from both points of view. Cheers. Damien. -Original Message- From: john Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 9:59 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: Jim Kitchens games
Yahooo! This is wonderful! Thank you Joshua. I do hope the new stuff folks create will be able to be added as well. Thanks everyone! On 8/10/15, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dark, I would suppose submissions could be sent to the webmaster, Joshua Griffith, and he could add them to the Kitchensinc.net site. On 8/10/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: That is extremely good to know and I'm very glad of that fact. As I said on audiogames.net, With the amount of people grabbing up jim's games ad wanting to host them, it is more likely they will be seen everywhere! than not available anywhere, however I do like the thought of people not just being able to play jim's games but reading the descriptions of them that he wrote before they download them. Just one question. It is possible that people will create more golf courses, trivia question files or monopoly board configurations in the future, (off and on I've been working on a Doctor Who trivia set). It'd be nice if these could also be added to Jim's site, though if not they could of course be hosted elsewhere. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Danielle Email: singingmywa...@gmail.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jim's nfl football - Josh K
well I found the mail in gmail and deleted it before it downloaded, it, yeah 400mb of text would take ages to open. On 10/08/2015 4:17 p.m., dark wrote: Glad it didn't have a virus, I had the same issue and am currently running an avg scan just in case. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:55 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim's nfl football - Josh K Hi John, the message in question seems to be virus and malware free. It appears to be just a huge log file of Jim's NFL from what I can tell. On 8/9/15, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, I just received an email from Josh Kennedy (not Josh k - this may be important), with a listed size of about 1100 kb, and subject something to do with jim's nfl football (I deleted the message, and don't have the exact line anymore). As soon as I tried to read the message my mail client went ballistic; fully loading up my processor and sending memory usage through the roof (fellow nerds that's 400mb). I'm not sure if this was just the world's largest game log file, or if it was something more sinister, but I'd advise anybody who got the message to avoid opening it. I'm hoping that this really was just a bad decision to send an ungodly large log through email and not some kind of virus on list, but given the way my machine reacted I figured it'd probably be best to post an alert about it just in case (if you do open the message, killing my mail client seems to have fixed the issue). I'd also note that I'm not trying to accuse anybody here - rather to offer a note of caution and a request that we try not to post logs that're larger than a bunch of novels put together. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away:
well that will rock if they are. if we can abandon the indevidual installers but still have something that will install all the libraries and stuff without relying on old files that will rock. On 9/08/2015 10:37 p.m., Darren Duff wrote: Someone is making a mega installer for all of his games. It should be out tomorrow. will keep the list updated. Darren Duff. amateur radio station KK4AHX. Follow me on twitter @darren_duff friend me on face book http://www.facebook.com/DarrenLDuff. primary E-mail duff...@gmail.com Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com skype duffman31279 On 8/9/2015 12:46 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Aprone, The way I see it the more people who can share the files the better. While I also intend to mirror his site and games I would like to perhaps repackage them and give them better Windows installers. While the method he uses is functional it doesn't really cut it for today's computing environment now that 64 bit Windows uses the Program Files (x86) folder rather than the older Program Files folder and that just confuses people to no end. So a new installer that would pick the correct one would be an improvement, and I would like to repackage the games to have a more updated installer. So perhaps we can work on something like that besides just mirroring them as is. Also I heard you live three hours away from Chardon, and if you can it would be nice to have another VB 6 dev take control of his source. While I could probably do it I am pretty busy and have a lot on my plate and wouldn't be up to taking on that many games any time soon. Plus while I know VB 6 it has never been my forte anyway. Cheers! On 8/8/15, Jeremy Kaldobsky jer...@kaldobsky.com wrote: I've grabbed a copy of his website and all of the downloads, and I plan to host them on my site. I didn't realize anyone else had volunteered to do so, so hopefully I'm not pushing anyone over by doing this. I suppose it can only be a good thing to have Jim's audiogames legacy hosted in a few places, just in case.I noticed that all but 1 of his GMHA board meeting recordings is missing. His Yahtzee game, winyaht2.exe keeps getting flagged by my Avast antivirus. Can anyone confirm this, or is it just a false positive? I want to be 100% sure it is safe before I go hosting it on my own site. I'd feel bad if anyone was harmed by something they downloaded from me, even if I wasn't the original author of the file. - Aprone --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: MediaReq How Jim Kitchen died
Please nobody take this the wrong way but I hope for his sake it was quick so he wouldn't be in any or much pain. Jim will be sadly missed. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Shane Davidson Sent: 10 August 2015 21:21 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Fwd: MediaReq How Jim Kitchen died This just rolled across my desk. Shane Forwarded Message Subject:MediaReq How Jim Kitchen died Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 16:19:27 -0400 From: bushido988 via Groups.io bushido988=aol@groups.io Reply-To: bushido...@aol.com To: media...@groups.io CC: media...@groups.io I know many were asking how Jim Kitchen died. His sister Sendy wrote me and told me the following. Jim had a bleeding ulcer, and he started bleeding internally and lost too much blood. They could not revive him when his heart stopped. Sensei John _._,_._,_ Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. You automatically follow any threads you start or reply to. View This Message (#6664) https://groups.io/org/groupsio/mediareq/message/6664 Mute This Thread https://groups.io/mt/119291?uid=11408 Change Your Subscription https://groups.io/org/groupsio/mediareq/editsub?uid=11408 Unsubscribe From This Group https://groups.io/org/groupsio/mediareq/leave/21472/1962034455/xyzzy Group Home https://groups.io/org/groupsio/mediareq Contact Group Owner mailto:mediareq+ow...@groups.io Terms Of Service https://groups.io/static/tos _._,_._,_ --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games?
Hello Rajmund, Yes, I still play a number of text based games. Although, admittedly it has been a few weeks since I played any recently. However, there are people here including myself that still play the old Inform based zcode games you speak of. I also occasionally play mud's like Alter Aeon and some browser based games like Sryth. Cheers! On 8/10/15, Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Well, the subject pretty much says it. Anyone still plays the old games, that have extentions like z5? Or am I looking at the wrong place? I'm stuck in a few games, and wonder whether anyone plays/played them and could help? Also, anyone into online text based role playing online games? Many thanks!! PS. I only have note takers to play, that's why I only play text based games. Rajmund Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jim's nfl football - Josh K
You might have had more luck sending it via an attachment. As a general rule of thumb, most text editors (including mail clients) will get mad if you give them more than a couple hundred kb to chew on. -- From: Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 0:48 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim's nfl football - Josh K hey guys it was a very big log file of an entire season of nfl football. i wanted to show you guys how good I am at the game and how I won the superbowl. i had to send it through gmail on the website because it made my email client go crazy when I tried putting the whole thing into a message. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 8/9/2015 8:50 PM, john wrote: Hi list, I just received an email from Josh Kennedy (not Josh k - this may be important), with a listed size of about 1100 kb, and subject something to do with jim's nfl football (I deleted the message, and don't have the exact line anymore). As soon as I tried to read the message my mail client went ballistic; fully loading up my processor and sending memory usage through the roof (fellow nerds that's 400mb). I'm not sure if this was just the world's largest game log file, or if it was something more sinister, but I'd advise anybody who got the message to avoid opening it. I'm hoping that this really was just a bad decision to send an ungodly large log through email and not some kind of virus on list, but given the way my machine reacted I figured it'd probably be best to post an alert about it just in case (if you do open the message, killing my mail client seems to have fixed the issue). I'd also note that I'm not trying to accuse anybody here - rather to offer a note of caution and a request that we try not to post logs that're larger than a bunch of novels put together. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Hi Tom. I know Tj was philip's first game and that later he stopped using javascript and maybe architecturally the system could've been programmed better, but the game did a lot right, indeed I bought it in 2006 when it was a commercial game and wasn't sorry. Each side scrolling level was a little different, whether attacking monkies on vines or fighting torgons, including their leader. While I wasn't as taken with the sterrio targeting bits like tiger fight and the torgon battle with the gun, the acting and music made them work. The only two portions I thought were particularly off were the guess the numbers bonus game and honey hunt where you basically just hit one button, though I did rather like the honey hunt boss. I also liked the fact that the difficulties other than easy really! got hard, and usually that difficulty wasn't just about speed so much as it was about slightly changing challenges, so a remake of tj, definitely a good plan. The only thing I will say is that if a new game were a remake of tj specifically, it wouldn't be tj if it didn't use the same sounds and music, and cut scenes. Kelly, Liam and Philip all did an amazing job. If the remake were more a sequel, then it'd still be nice to have some of the same elements, indeed maybe even if Philip wouldn't remake the game he might reprise some of his acting, same goes for Kelly though I imagine Liam is probably a bit busy these days with other matters. Either way, good idea, because Tj was actually a pretty awesome game for what it was. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Hi Josh. I've heard this arguement that the game is now worth 200 usd before, but that is just looking at it from one perspective. From Brian Hartgen's point of view he has bought Q9 to essentially be a bonus. It's like the solitare and other games that comes with windows. It would be foolish to say that microsoft are selling a solitare game for $300 (or however much a windows install costs these days), it's that microsoft are selling windows as the main operating system and solitare, pinball, spades etc come as a freee extra. That is how I believe Brian Hartgen is viewing Q9. he sells Leasy for 200 usd which is the same price he's always sold it for, and people get a fun little game as a look at this freebee! item. The problem though is Q9 is not like solitare. it's not just a fun little time waster, it is a well crafted game that has had significant work put into it, which is exactly why I accuse Brian of devaluing what he has bought, indeed while I hold Philip generally blaimeless in the matter, I am extremely sorry that Philip didn't sell the rights to the game to another, more responsable person who recognized the worth of what they had rather than thinking oh game, worth not much, I'll throw it in for free I'm also dissappointed that this moron Brian, even though he clearly did not know the value of what he had didn't change his thinking once he recieved so many complaints. Whether he is hoping people will buy leasy just for the game, or whether (as I personally believe is more likely), he is sticking to his guns just to be bloody minded after recieving lots of cryticism becuase he assumes he knows best I can't say. Either way it clearly shows me that he's not just ignorant of games but ignorant of good business if once he gets something which people planely want to buy, he refuses to sell it individually. As I said, I personally believe at this stage he's just being bloody mindedd, or possibly missunderstanding how many none jaws using, none leasy using potential customers there would be for the game if he sold it, hell he could always still! give it out free with leasy if he desired and! sell it individually. Either way, I'm sorry Phillip sold his game to such an ignorant berk! Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
I think we already have a Mario? -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] För Josh K Skickat: den 10 augusti 2015 07:03 Till: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Ämne: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home not another tarzan junior. How about a side scroller that combines mario and sonic with mortal combat. And you could get all kinds of weapons like swords and bombs. and make levels where you have to smash cars and stuff with hammers. Or smash cars with your fish as you run bye them or jump over them. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 8/10/2015 12:40 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Dark, Oh, definitely agree. I've actually been doing some thinking and I think what would be cool is a modern remake or clone of Tarzan Junior since presumably Philip still holds the rights and it would be easy to get permission to rewrite TJ. Reason being it could be designed to use similar elements of Q9 but have a much more indepth and better side-scroller of Tarzan Junior. A lot of the elements that made Q9 as good as it was could be carried over to the new side-scroller and Brian Fartgen would have nothing to say about it. Cheers! On 8/10/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. Well yes Q9 has the fairly standard environments, weapons and gameplay, but as I said it's the design here that matters. This is actually why I'd be interested if one of our more established and experienced developers worked on some sort of side scroller sinse funnily enough while a few have been developed I've not seen any quite as well put together as Q9 for quite some time. Adventure at C: for example has a lot of good points, the rpg stats system and mod creation of new levels not the leased, not to mention challenges etc, but there are still portions that turn into a button masher. About Psycho strike I don't know, though various other attempts like Battlezone or scrolling battles have been rather rough around the edges I think mostly because people assume that creating enemies everywhere and having the player hammer the buttons is what makes a good game rather than messing with the enemy properties. Adventure to fate Project Alpha is extremely atmospheric and has some interesting challenges, but is fundamentally a very different game from something like Q9, closer to a side scroller adventure title, and while combat is very very quick in the birsts it occurs, it's the story and obstacles that make the difference. Angel gift is nothing short of amazing! from it's sound design to it's intelligent enemies, but it's fundamentally a short game, and given the massive and epic amount of sound work I'm not really surprised. So, oddly enough generic as Q9 is, it's been a hell of a long time sinse someone made something like it, much less something very very well designed, indeed the only game we've had that I can really compare it to is Superliam, and of course a game that has maze elements with going up and down on ladders etc the way Deathmatch project alpha currently does and the way the various montizuma games did is still in short supply side scroller wise. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be
Re: [Audyssey] jim's nfl football - Josh K
Hi Josh, Well, please don't do it again. That caused a lot of grief for some list members and I had strongly considered blocking that message because it was extremely huge. However, being nice I let it through and regretted it afterwards. On 8/10/15, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: yes its like 20 or so nfl games. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Hi Josh, I don't think anyone will disagree with that. It is bad marketing, but I don't think we need to continue to belabor the point. What is done is done and continuing to moan and groan about it isn't going to change things. So if there is nothing more constructive to say on the issue I think we should close this topic down as we are simply repeating ourselves over and over. Cheers!! On 8/10/15, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: well its bad marketing. Q9 is not worth $200. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Sad news regarding Jim Kitchen.
Hello everyone. Not contributed for a while I know. Its Gary Price from Bolton here. Aw what a shame regarding Jim Kitchen. I didn't know him personally, but got in touch by E-mail with suggestions for his games. To be honest I'm glad someone is doing a mega installer, because I didn't even know he had released new ones! Will definitely grab this when its available. I've got all his old ones like Battleship, golf, WinSpank and Winpup3 plus a few others. Used to play the Golf game on a website called TAFN (The accessible friends network). Anyway just my thoughts. -- Gary Price Sent from Thunderbird on desktop. This address is for list contact. gazwpr...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/gazwprice --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] drugs in psycho strike
How to use drugs? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] drugs in psycho strike
You can use drugs the same way as any other item in Psycho Strike, like the Medkits. Go to the Casino to collect Fortimine, Burlium, and Bridine. Either focus the item with the tab and shift ab keys and press enter, or if you want to do it from the base, select manage items use items. Select the character with the drugs, arrow to the drugs and press enter. Hope that helps! Regards, Aaron On 8/10/15, mattias mjonsson1...@icloud.com wrote: How to use drugs? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] drugs in psycho strike
You only die in the casino -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] För Aaron Baker Skickat: den 10 augusti 2015 16:01 Till: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Ämne: Re: [Audyssey] drugs in psycho strike You can use drugs the same way as any other item in Psycho Strike, like the Medkits. Go to the Casino to collect Fortimine, Burlium, and Bridine. Either focus the item with the tab and shift ab keys and press enter, or if you want to do it from the base, select manage items use items. Select the character with the drugs, arrow to the drugs and press enter. Hope that helps! Regards, Aaron On 8/10/15, mattias mjonsson1...@icloud.com wrote: How to use drugs? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
