Re: [Audyssey] Help Naming a Wrestling Game
I wouldn't be interested in the new guys, and I guess gals now. I remember when it was generation X and Sean Michaels had China. She was bigger then some of the men! I would love to add alot of the old timers too. Jimmy super fly snuka for one, andre the giant, ricky the dragon steamboat, hacksaw jim dugan, the iron shiek ...wow, I am really freakin old, lol al al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help Naming a Wrestling Game Hi Allan, Wow! I guess you really are out of the loop. WWE has changed a lot since the Attitude Era when Steve Austin and The Rock were the two most popular performers on the roster. These days there is a whole new generation of superstars such as Sheamus, John Cena, CM Punk, Ryback, etc who all emerged over the last 10 years or so as well as some classics like Chris Jericho and The Rock who got there start back in the Attitude Era. That's only the mail roster. The Divas division has grown and expanded a lot over the last decade, and there have been several female superstars who have come and gone such as Mickie James, Trish Stratus, Candice Michelle, Michelle McCool, Layla El, Maryse, Melina Parez, Beth Phoenix, Kelly Kelly, and the list goes on. On 3/2/13, Allan Thompson allan1.thomp...@cox.net wrote: The game sounds interesting, and I like the name Power Slam. I am looking forward to this title. I remember watching Hulk Hogan and Rowdy Roddy Piper on Saturday afternoons when I was knee high to a halfling. I think I stopped watching after the stone cold steve austin and the Rock feud. al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 6:33 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Help Naming a Wrestling Game Hello everyone, As many of you know I have been working on a wrestling game for quite some time based on the WWE brand of superstars etc. The project started out as an attempt to simply rewrite the Dos Piledriver game, convert it to a 32-bit Windows application, and update the database of superstars with wrestlers like Edge, CM Punk, Sheamus, and so on. Basically, originally it was just going to be an updated version of Piledriver. However, as time went on the game evolved, became much better, and is moving in a direction entirely different from the original intent which is apt to happen with us crazy programmers. That's not such a bad thing. the current version is more like one of Jim Kitchen's sports games with Sapi for play by play action, pull down context menus, contains entrance music, crowd ambiance, start and ending bells, and so forth. In short, the game is no longer Piledriver per say, and is completely something new which I think needs its own title. Here is the problem. There are a number of WWE games on the market for the XBox, Play Station, PSP etc and I definitely don't want to get into entanglements over copyrights if I use a game title like WWE Raw Verses Smackdown, WWE All Stars, WWE Legends, and so forth. Generic names like Wrestling League Manager and so on just don't appeal to me. Piledriver, as mentioned above, is for all intents and purpose a different game which I don't want confused with my creation. So any thoughts or ideas on a cool title for the wrestling game I'm working on? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http
Re: [Audyssey] Help Naming a Wrestling Game
Hi Dark, Sure. I can understand that. That is why I am willing to take some suggestions and add things I think will improve the game for both casual and long time wrestling fans. However, unlike with MOTA though I am not going to attempt to try and please everyone and will use my own judgment on weather or not a suggestion will or won't work for the game I have in development. :D Regarding Piledriver I happen to agree with you. It was a little too generic at times, and there was no type of season mode where you could develop rivalries or feuds. You just picked two wrestlers out of the database and fought it out. I'll be the first to agree it was a bit boring, and lacked any surprises or sense of working your way up to a championship match. If you wanted Hulk Hogan to wrestle for the World Heavyweight Championship all you had to do was put him in a World Heavyweight Championship match without having to build his reputation or earn the number one contender status the hard way. That is, put simply, not very interesting or challenging. What I have in mind for my wrestling game is two separate modes. you can choose from. the first is practice matches or training mode where you can pick any two performers off the roster and have them wrestle. It is similar to the way Piledriver works now, and is primarily for training and testing purposes from a development standpoint. The second mode is a season mode. You will pick a performer off the roster you want to play, and it will generate a season schedule of matches for that performer. It works similar to Jim's NFL game where you pick a team and it creates a list of games for the entire season. the same principle applies here where you pick a wrestler and it schedules several matches and events for that performer he or she must win in order to face one of the raining champions. If he wins the game will generate a new schedule of potential number one contenders you must defend against. Cheers! On 3/4/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. Fair enough, this is your game, though myself i obviously am looking at things as at best someone with very very casual knolidge of or interest in wrestling so I am more inclined to want game related content. one thing I will say though is one severe annoyence I found with pile driver was it's very lack1 of actual playable features. For instance, I would rather as a gamer pick a wrestler, go through his or her training and fight various opponents selected by computer to earn titles. i want the surprise of seeing who i might be matched up against next, and the need to play tactically, plus I want the title to be something I earn. One thing that I didn't like in pile driver was the need to create a tournament, choose wrestlers for that tournament and then almost arbitrarily pick one, plus have little ability to alter his stats. While I am quite happy that this is a game by a wrestling fan for other wrestling fans, thus features like unlockables might be lacking, I do very much hope at least some attention has been paid to other aspects, so that it is possible for someone like myself to enjoy picking a wrestler and play the game as a turn based fighting game, earning titles, training etc along the way, not just as a homage to wwe/wwf. For example, while I can freely see the merrit for someone like yourself in wanting to have the ability to create a match of any wrestler vs any other wrestler, as a gamer I'd much rather have random opponents in a contest for the title so that I get an element of surprise. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help Naming a Wrestling Game
I really like the idea of this Thom, particularly because I've never been into Nfl so something like that for wrestling would be brilliant. Now i know you wanted to keep the wrestlers all wwe which is understandable because you cant please anyone, but would you be willing to add in a few key legends like say Sting so that we can at least have Sting vs Taker at wrestlemania which is definitely a dream match? i'd also be curious to see what the roster is going to be; and I'm curious, will you be able to improve low-end performers through season mode? for instance i've always wanted to make Regal world champ and as greater wrestler as I've always believed him to be which sadly much of his wwe run hasn't shown. On 3/5/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dark, Sure. I can understand that. That is why I am willing to take some suggestions and add things I think will improve the game for both casual and long time wrestling fans. However, unlike with MOTA though I am not going to attempt to try and please everyone and will use my own judgment on weather or not a suggestion will or won't work for the game I have in development. :D Regarding Piledriver I happen to agree with you. It was a little too generic at times, and there was no type of season mode where you could develop rivalries or feuds. You just picked two wrestlers out of the database and fought it out. I'll be the first to agree it was a bit boring, and lacked any surprises or sense of working your way up to a championship match. If you wanted Hulk Hogan to wrestle for the World Heavyweight Championship all you had to do was put him in a World Heavyweight Championship match without having to build his reputation or earn the number one contender status the hard way. That is, put simply, not very interesting or challenging. What I have in mind for my wrestling game is two separate modes. you can choose from. the first is practice matches or training mode where you can pick any two performers off the roster and have them wrestle. It is similar to the way Piledriver works now, and is primarily for training and testing purposes from a development standpoint. The second mode is a season mode. You will pick a performer off the roster you want to play, and it will generate a season schedule of matches for that performer. It works similar to Jim's NFL game where you pick a team and it creates a list of games for the entire season. the same principle applies here where you pick a wrestler and it schedules several matches and events for that performer he or she must win in order to face one of the raining champions. If he wins the game will generate a new schedule of potential number one contenders you must defend against. Cheers! On 3/4/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. Fair enough, this is your game, though myself i obviously am looking at things as at best someone with very very casual knolidge of or interest in wrestling so I am more inclined to want game related content. one thing I will say though is one severe annoyence I found with pile driver was it's very lack1 of actual playable features. For instance, I would rather as a gamer pick a wrestler, go through his or her training and fight various opponents selected by computer to earn titles. i want the surprise of seeing who i might be matched up against next, and the need to play tactically, plus I want the title to be something I earn. One thing that I didn't like in pile driver was the need to create a tournament, choose wrestlers for that tournament and then almost arbitrarily pick one, plus have little ability to alter his stats. While I am quite happy that this is a game by a wrestling fan for other wrestling fans, thus features like unlockables might be lacking, I do very much hope at least some attention has been paid to other aspects, so that it is possible for someone like myself to enjoy picking a wrestler and play the game as a turn based fighting game, earning titles, training etc along the way, not just as a homage to wwe/wwf. For example, while I can freely see the merrit for someone like yourself in wanting to have the ability to create a match of any wrestler vs any other wrestler, as a gamer I'd much rather have random opponents in a contest for the title so that I get an element of surprise. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave
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Hi tom. the season mode sounds just the sort of thing I was thinking of, and will of course give people like myself who aren't perhaps wrestling officionados something interesting to do purely as an in game challenge, winning wrestling titles and defending them against all comers, which actually sounds rather fun, particularly with the profile mode giving a bit more information about the people your facing so that even if there isn't! a story mode you can develope personal feelings and some degree of investment in the characters as characters. as far as suggestions go, well suggestion is the operative word hear as we've said before. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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when would this be out though? On 5 Mar 2013, at 15:47, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dan, Lol! Actually, many of the greatest WWF/WWE performers were long reigning Intercontinental Champions before they went on to win the WWF/WWE title. For example, Randy Macho Man Savage held the Intercontinental title for like 14 months before he was defeated by Ricky The Dragon Steamboat at Wrestle mania III. The next year at Wrestle mania IV he won his first WWF Heavyweight Championship. As I recall the only person who held the Intercontinental title longer was the Honkey Tonk Man. I know and agree these days the title seems to change hands on a frequent basis. Just in the last few months it went from Miz, to Kingston, to Waid Barret in short succession. However, it wasn't always that way. Back in the 80's and the 90's many of the Intercontinental Champions held it for several months at a time, and won the matches fair and square. Cheers! On 3/5/13, dan cook dan.sc...@gmail.com wrote: well, i'm looking forward to doing something that WWE don't seem to ever do, which is win the intercontinental title with some one and actually have them win matches afterwoods! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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sounds unique i'm not in to wrestling but am keen to try any new genres provided smile good luck with it. On 5 Mar 2013, at 15:54, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Will, Best answer I can give, as always, it will be released when it is ready.. I don't have a specific date and time for release. Even if I had one in mind I wouldn't say because plans change, and I know how the people on this list get when a certain game isn't released the exact minute the developer said it might be x months before. On 3/5/13, Will will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote: when would this be out though? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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haha. I realise that Thom, was just commenting on what appears to happen in today's wwe, as I began watching in the 90s. Speeking of which, I've not seen nearly as much savage as I'd like. You always seem to remind me of this. :D On 3/5/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dan, We will see. At this point I just want to get the game written, tested, and make sure the game works before I start saying that this or that performer will or won't be in the game. Right now I am just working with a small handful of wrestlers to test out the basic game play and adding this or that performer is something I can do later on down the road. For the moment though the roster consists of top performers who all have at least one WWE Championship, Intercontinental Championship, or World Championship reign. Obviously, that would include performers like Hulk Hogan, John Cena, The Undertaker, The Miz, and so on. Some of the performers like R-Truth probably will be put on a waiting list for later consideration because he isn't what I would consider a top tear performer, and it is going to take considerable time and energy to add each and every performer to the game so I want it to include the best of the best to start out with. On 3/5/13, dan cook dan.sc...@gmail.com wrote: I really like the idea of this Thom, particularly because I've never been into Nfl so something like that for wrestling would be brilliant. Now i know you wanted to keep the wrestlers all wwe which is understandable because you cant please anyone, but would you be willing to add in a few key legends like say Sting so that we can at least have Sting vs Taker at wrestlemania which is definitely a dream match? i'd also be curious to see what the roster is going to be; and I'm curious, will you be able to improve low-end performers through season mode? for instance i've always wanted to make Regal world champ and as greater wrestler as I've always believed him to be which sadly much of his wwe run hasn't shown. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Wow, Tom, that sounds awesome! This isn't so much a suggestion as a question. Are you going to bother with tag teams? They still have tage teams, right? This is perhaps a suggestion, see what you think... What makes wrestling what it is is not just the matches themselves but the drama in between matches. So maybe, as an optional setting, one could select drama where between matches interesting events could happen that might or might not affect stats for a wrestler. I see it as a things like: player's wrestler gets attacked from behind in the back rooms! He thinks it was next wrestler to fight. As a result he is a little less coordinated. or During an interview, player wrestler got squirted in the eyes with burning hot coffee by next challenger, He is ok, but his rage has increased to new levels of extreme danger and of course... Players wrestler girlfriend/lucky trunks/manager/favorite truck got stolen, and now he is distracted throwing off his focus for the upcoming belt! It wouldn't be anything too major, just adding or subtracting or even just doing nothing but entertaining so that the feel of the wrestling shows I used to watch would be there . al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help Naming a Wrestling Game
Not to mentiont he british bulldogs! al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. - Original Message - From: dan cook To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help Naming a Wrestling Game You know, I really like that idea. and yes they still have tag teams, wel nothing on par with the road warriors, demolition, dudley boys etc though. On 3/5/13, Allan Thompson allan1.thomp...@cox.net wrote: Wow, Tom, that sounds awesome! This isn't so much a suggestion as a question. Are you going to bother with tag teams? They still have tage teams, right? This is perhaps a suggestion, see what you think... What makes wrestling what it is is not just the matches themselves but the drama in between matches. So maybe, as an optional setting, one could select drama where between matches interesting events could happen that might or might not affect stats for a wrestler. I see it as a things like: player's wrestler gets attacked from behind in the back rooms! He thinks it was next wrestler to fight. As a result he is a little less coordinated. or During an interview, player wrestler got squirted in the eyes with burning hot coffee by next challenger, He is ok, but his rage has increased to new levels of extreme danger and of course... Players wrestler girlfriend/lucky trunks/manager/favorite truck got stolen, and now he is distracted throwing off his focus for the upcoming belt! It wouldn't be anything too major, just adding or subtracting or even just doing nothing but entertaining so that the feel of the wrestling shows I used to watch would be there . al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I really wish I knew more wrestling fans. I've always wanted to go to a show but wouldn't be able to tell what's going on that much if I did, in the matches at least. Although, the atmosphere would be incredible. Anyway, that's off-topic. I'm reallly looking forward to seeing where this game goes, as you can probably tell. the best of luck to you. On 3/5/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dan, Well, I'm not too surprised. By the 90's Randy Savage was semi-retired doing play by play commentary on Monday Night Raw, and of course the occasional match. Then, as with a number of big name performers who were really big in the 80's he left the WWF for the WCW for a few years. I don't think he was quite as popular or featured as much in the 90's as he was a decade before. In fact, to give you an idea of what an old fart I am I actually do remember the first time Randy Savage showed up on WWF Prime Time about 1985. In the first storyline he was involved in all the managers were trying to get him to join their stables. Eventually, though, he surprised the WWF audiences when he walked out to the ring with his real world wife, Elizabeth, as his new manager.. Of course, that lead to a number of followup storylines like the famous perhaps infamous battles between Randy Savage and George the Animal Steele over Elizabeth. What I remember most about that feud is besides the wrestling the side shows, the side acts, were kind of funny too. Every time the Macho Man would be involved in a match with someone George Steele would show up and try and drag Elizabeth off to the locker room like a big hairy ape. That continued as I recall clear up until Wrestlemania II where George Steele challenged Randy Savage for the Intercontinental Championship and lost. On 3/5/13, dan cook dan.sc...@gmail.com wrote: haha. I realise that Thom, was just commenting on what appears to happen in today's wwe, as I began watching in the 90s. Speeking of which, I've not seen nearly as much savage as I'd like. You always seem to remind me of this. :D --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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ah yes, the bulldogs. man I miss Davey boy and Owen Hart... On 3/5/13, dan cook dan.sc...@gmail.com wrote: I really wish I knew more wrestling fans. I've always wanted to go to a show but wouldn't be able to tell what's going on that much if I did, in the matches at least. Although, the atmosphere would be incredible. Anyway, that's off-topic. I'm reallly looking forward to seeing where this game goes, as you can probably tell. the best of luck to you. On 3/5/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dan, Well, I'm not too surprised. By the 90's Randy Savage was semi-retired doing play by play commentary on Monday Night Raw, and of course the occasional match. Then, as with a number of big name performers who were really big in the 80's he left the WWF for the WCW for a few years. I don't think he was quite as popular or featured as much in the 90's as he was a decade before. In fact, to give you an idea of what an old fart I am I actually do remember the first time Randy Savage showed up on WWF Prime Time about 1985. In the first storyline he was involved in all the managers were trying to get him to join their stables. Eventually, though, he surprised the WWF audiences when he walked out to the ring with his real world wife, Elizabeth, as his new manager.. Of course, that lead to a number of followup storylines like the famous perhaps infamous battles between Randy Savage and George the Animal Steele over Elizabeth. What I remember most about that feud is besides the wrestling the side shows, the side acts, were kind of funny too. Every time the Macho Man would be involved in a match with someone George Steele would show up and try and drag Elizabeth off to the locker room like a big hairy ape. That continued as I recall clear up until Wrestlemania II where George Steele challenged Randy Savage for the Intercontinental Championship and lost. On 3/5/13, dan cook dan.sc...@gmail.com wrote: haha. I realise that Thom, was just commenting on what appears to happen in today's wwe, as I began watching in the 90s. Speeking of which, I've not seen nearly as much savage as I'd like. You always seem to remind me of this. :D --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help Naming a Wrestling Game
Hi Dan. Much as I've said I don't particularly care for wrestling, I do enjoy such unlockables in games, especially competing games with different conditions, since they really give a sense of accomplishment when you finish them. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: dan cook dan.sc...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 5:28 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help Naming a Wrestling Game Hi, I was going to suggest something like ddt, but that'd be too obvious and similar i guess to piledriver. Guess I just like the name of that move. :D I'm loving the sound of this Tom, particularly because the WWE games are becoming somewhat less playable again. my question is, will all wrestlers be unlocked at the start or will you be able to unlock some of the ones such as stone cold, undertaker, other legendary ones etc by completing say...the rise of a current superstar? somewhat like beating a boss and unlocking them after. I just thought it'd give more replay value to something which i'm sure i'll spend many hours playing with anyway since i cant get piledriver to work anymore for one thing. On 3/3/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi tom. I will confess that me using wrestlers as all purpose figures was just something I generally did, since usually i made up long and complex stories with all sorts of figures and had many that I didn't know the derivation of at all but which looked good, as well as everything from starwarss, ghost busters, heman, wrestlers, Turtles, and goodness knows what else, indeed I must've had over 300 figures as a child collected betwene the ages of 5 and about 15, often bought second hand though some new, and since I didn't tend to break them I had a hole bunch with which i played out increasingly more complex stories. Indeed I only stopped when i realized I didn't need! figures to make up stories and could do it in my head just as well :d. About the closest I ever got to playing About the closest I ever got to actually playing wrestlers was when I played various fighting tournament type games, but even then i preferd to make up my own back stories for the characters rather than playing who they actually were, (legion of doom made great cyberpunks). Getting back to the game though, I fully agree about wrestling fudes and the storyline being a major aspect (indeed as you said yourself given the corriography and match fixing likely the main aspect). While I know something like that would be pretty hard to add to a game without a fairly complex events system that would be hell to write, one thing you could! do for none wwe fans and also to add some flavour would be to include short profiles of each wrestler, which could be read both when the player chooses which wrestler he/she wants to play as, and before each match so that the player knows a bit about the personality, style and aspect of who they are fighting against, thus making matches say betwene a face and a heal have a little more prominance just as they would on roar or smackdown. These wouldn't need to be too long, perhaps 200 words max, but would just give a little extra to the game. beware the Grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Dan, All performers are unlocked and playable from the beginning of the game. Like Piledriver you will be able to select any performer you want to play and wrestle any other performer in the game's database. The only acception to that rule is female performers can only wrestle female performers and male performers can only wrestle male performers. Otherwise if you want to have say Steve Austin wrestle Edge go ahead. There is no restrictions on who you can select and play per match. Cheers! On 3/4/13, dan cook dan.sc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was going to suggest something like ddt, but that'd be too obvious and similar i guess to piledriver. Guess I just like the name of that move. :D I'm loving the sound of this Tom, particularly because the WWE games are becoming somewhat less playable again. my question is, will all wrestlers be unlocked at the start or will you be able to unlock some of the ones such as stone cold, undertaker, other legendary ones etc by completing say...the rise of a current superstar? somewhat like beating a boss and unlocking them after. I just thought it'd give more replay value to something which i'm sure i'll spend many hours playing with anyway since i cant get piledriver to work anymore for one thing. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Dark, While I see the point of unlockable content in many types of games this definitely isn't one of them. As mentioned before this game is a wrestling game written by a wrestling fan for wrestling fans and restricting certain performers would be counter productive in its intent. For example, I grew up in the 1980's and have many fond memories of Hulk Hogan, Randy Savage, Ricky Steamboat, Brett Hart, etc from the early days of their wrestling careers. Now, assuming this is a game for wrestling fans it stands to reason I should be able to pull up a list of performers I want to wrestle and have the opportunity to be able to select two classic performers like Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage and reconstruct a match from the 1980's without restrictions. It would make little to no sense at all to me to pick a performer off of the current roster like John Cena, have him wrestle x number of matches, just to unlock certain performers that I might happen to want to play. This is in my opinion exactly the kind of differences that come up between a true fan of the sport and just a gamer. Gamers are looking for something extra, some un lockable content, something extra that makes the game just another fighting game. A fan, such as myself, needs no unlockable content to make the game enjoyable and in fact might find certain restrictions get in the way of his or her enjoyment. Cheers! On 3/4/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Dan. Much as I've said I don't particularly care for wrestling, I do enjoy such unlockables in games, especially competing games with different conditions, since they really give a sense of accomplishment when you finish them. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Tom. Fair enough, this is your game, though myself i obviously am looking at things as at best someone with very very casual knolidge of or interest in wrestling so I am more inclined to want game related content. one thing I will say though is one severe annoyence I found with pile driver was it's very lack1 of actual playable features. For instance, I would rather as a gamer pick a wrestler, go through his or her training and fight various opponents selected by computer to earn titles. i want the surprise of seeing who i might be matched up against next, and the need to play tactically, plus I want the title to be something I earn. One thing that I didn't like in pile driver was the need to create a tournament, choose wrestlers for that tournament and then almost arbitrarily pick one, plus have little ability to alter his stats. While I am quite happy that this is a game by a wrestling fan for other wrestling fans, thus features like unlockables might be lacking, I do very much hope at least some attention has been paid to other aspects, so that it is possible for someone like myself to enjoy picking a wrestler and play the game as a turn based fighting game, earning titles, training etc along the way, not just as a homage to wwe/wwf. For example, while I can freely see the merrit for someone like yourself in wanting to have the ability to create a match of any wrestler vs any other wrestler, as a gamer I'd much rather have random opponents in a contest for the title so that I get an element of surprise. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Tom. i thought as much as regards story mode, however might I suggest that the profiles be accessible in the game itself, albeit an optional extra since there is nothing more annoying than playing a game and then having to go and look up information via find and replace on a document you might not have to hand, flipping betwene two windows and having to find the exact text you want. The sort of thing I was imagining would be an option before each match, rather like a vs screen in a fighting game. As well as options to start the match, go to gym or whatever, there would also be a view profile option, which, when used rather like Jim kitchin's rules of baseball would tell you about the next person you were fighting. of course for people like yourself who know who edge, ricky steamboat or whoever is this option would not be needed, but for the rest of us it would add a lot of colour, and having it before each match would also give each opponent a little more prominance and personality, since you'd be at a new match in the title and have a new wrestler to contend with, rather the way that before I knew the rosters of such games, when playing something like dark stalkers or street fighter 2, I'd see the next opponent (my brother read the name and country of origin), and think agh! looks nasty especially in games like street fighter 3, turtles tournament fighters or killer instinct which gave brief profiles on the vs screen too (where I got the idea from). Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Tom, I certainly see your point there. I myself am too a huge wrestling fan so unlockable contenc won't do much for me personally one other question i have though is will it be possible to eddit wrestler entrance themes? for instance would i be able to give undertaker his ministry of darkness theme instead of the usual dark side one? On 3/4/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. i thought as much as regards story mode, however might I suggest that the profiles be accessible in the game itself, albeit an optional extra since there is nothing more annoying than playing a game and then having to go and look up information via find and replace on a document you might not have to hand, flipping betwene two windows and having to find the exact text you want. The sort of thing I was imagining would be an option before each match, rather like a vs screen in a fighting game. As well as options to start the match, go to gym or whatever, there would also be a view profile option, which, when used rather like Jim kitchin's rules of baseball would tell you about the next person you were fighting. of course for people like yourself who know who edge, ricky steamboat or whoever is this option would not be needed, but for the rest of us it would add a lot of colour, and having it before each match would also give each opponent a little more prominance and personality, since you'd be at a new match in the title and have a new wrestler to contend with, rather the way that before I knew the rosters of such games, when playing something like dark stalkers or street fighter 2, I'd see the next opponent (my brother read the name and country of origin), and think agh! looks nasty especially in games like street fighter 3, turtles tournament fighters or killer instinct which gave brief profiles on the vs screen too (where I got the idea from). Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Dark, Well, I suppose that is doable. For example, when you are scrolling through a list of opponents you could press x for extra info and have it read out his/her bio giving you a little more information about that performer. It would be entirely optional, and yet would be available for someone like yourself who may not have a clue who this or that performer is. Cheers! On 3/4/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. i thought as much as regards story mode, however might I suggest that the profiles be accessible in the game itself, albeit an optional extra since there is nothing more annoying than playing a game and then having to go and look up information via find and replace on a document you might not have to hand, flipping betwene two windows and having to find the exact text you want. The sort of thing I was imagining would be an option before each match, rather like a vs screen in a fighting game. As well as options to start the match, go to gym or whatever, there would also be a view profile option, which, when used rather like Jim kitchin's rules of baseball would tell you about the next person you were fighting. of course for people like yourself who know who edge, ricky steamboat or whoever is this option would not be needed, but for the rest of us it would add a lot of colour, and having it before each match would also give each opponent a little more prominance and personality, since you'd be at a new match in the title and have a new wrestler to contend with, rather the way that before I knew the rosters of such games, when playing something like dark stalkers or street fighter 2, I'd see the next opponent (my brother read the name and country of origin), and think agh! looks nasty especially in games like street fighter 3, turtles tournament fighters or killer instinct which gave brief profiles on the vs screen too (where I got the idea from). Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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No holds barred, lol. How will the wrestling actually work? Will it be a fighting game like mortal combat? What about the diffrent combos. I mean you got the sling shot off the ropes, you got top rope drops, figure four leg locks, all sorts of signnature moves! thanks, al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 4:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help Naming a Wrestling Game Hi Dark, While I see the point of unlockable content in many types of games this definitely isn't one of them. As mentioned before this game is a wrestling game written by a wrestling fan for wrestling fans and restricting certain performers would be counter productive in its intent. For example, I grew up in the 1980's and have many fond memories of Hulk Hogan, Randy Savage, Ricky Steamboat, Brett Hart, etc from the early days of their wrestling careers. Now, assuming this is a game for wrestling fans it stands to reason I should be able to pull up a list of performers I want to wrestle and have the opportunity to be able to select two classic performers like Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage and reconstruct a match from the 1980's without restrictions. It would make little to no sense at all to me to pick a performer off of the current roster like John Cena, have him wrestle x number of matches, just to unlock certain performers that I might happen to want to play. This is in my opinion exactly the kind of differences that come up between a true fan of the sport and just a gamer. Gamers are looking for something extra, some un lockable content, something extra that makes the game just another fighting game. A fan, such as myself, needs no unlockable content to make the game enjoyable and in fact might find certain restrictions get in the way of his or her enjoyment. Cheers! On 3/4/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Dan. Much as I've said I don't particularly care for wrestling, I do enjoy such unlockables in games, especially competing games with different conditions, since they really give a sense of accomplishment when you finish them. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Tom, That is perfectly fine with me. I just wasn't sure how it would be played since I have never played pile driver, nor heard about it till now. Sounds fun! al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help Naming a Wrestling Game Hi Al, The game is essentially a turn based menu driven game much like Piledriver for Dos is. In case you don't know what I mean by that here is a basic idea of how it works. You have a menu of various types of moves such as Aerial, Brawling, Dirty, Grappling, Submission, Throws, and Finishers. Let's say for example you select Brawling. A new menu of options will appear such as Big Boot, Missile Dropkick, European Uppercut, Knee Lift, and so on. You select European Uppercut and your wrestler attempts to hit the computer opponent with an uppercut. If the move is successful the opponent will be stunned or knocked down to the mat. If it fails the computer opponent will be allowed to attempt to attack you with a move of its own. This will continue back and forth until a wrestler is pinned or submits. Now, there are two reasons why I didn't create a real time fighting game like Mortal Kombat as you suggest. First, is I don't have the money to purchase a library of sound effects for every potential wrestler, for every single move, and so on. Second, is there are so many different wrestling moves that it would be impossible to program keyboard commands for every single possibility. Even if I did so it would be difficult to remember each and every possible command. So I chose to keep the same game play as Piledriver, but added some sounds and music to it as well as Sapi support. HTH On 3/4/13, Allan Thompson allan1.thomp...@cox.net wrote: No holds barred, lol. How will the wrestling actually work? Will it be a fighting game like mortal combat? What about the diffrent combos. I mean you got the sling shot off the ropes, you got top rope drops, figure four leg locks, all sorts of signnature moves! thanks, al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I'm liking the sound of this more and more. also i'm guessing this one will be more balanced than piledriver was? I mean in piledriver there was pretty much no way say Savage could dream of beating andre the giant as none of the moves there would work unless you eddetid the wrestlers to be different sizes or to be incredibly good at submissions. On 3/4/13, Allan Thompson allan1.thomp...@cox.net wrote: Hi Tom, That is perfectly fine with me. I just wasn't sure how it would be played since I have never played pile driver, nor heard about it till now. Sounds fun! al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help Naming a Wrestling Game Hi Al, The game is essentially a turn based menu driven game much like Piledriver for Dos is. In case you don't know what I mean by that here is a basic idea of how it works. You have a menu of various types of moves such as Aerial, Brawling, Dirty, Grappling, Submission, Throws, and Finishers. Let's say for example you select Brawling. A new menu of options will appear such as Big Boot, Missile Dropkick, European Uppercut, Knee Lift, and so on. You select European Uppercut and your wrestler attempts to hit the computer opponent with an uppercut. If the move is successful the opponent will be stunned or knocked down to the mat. If it fails the computer opponent will be allowed to attempt to attack you with a move of its own. This will continue back and forth until a wrestler is pinned or submits. Now, there are two reasons why I didn't create a real time fighting game like Mortal Kombat as you suggest. First, is I don't have the money to purchase a library of sound effects for every potential wrestler, for every single move, and so on. Second, is there are so many different wrestling moves that it would be impossible to program keyboard commands for every single possibility. Even if I did so it would be difficult to remember each and every possible command. So I chose to keep the same game play as Piledriver, but added some sounds and music to it as well as Sapi support. HTH On 3/4/13, Allan Thompson allan1.thomp...@cox.net wrote: No holds barred, lol. How will the wrestling actually work? Will it be a fighting game like mortal combat? What about the diffrent combos. I mean you got the sling shot off the ropes, you got top rope drops, figure four leg locks, all sorts of signnature moves! thanks, al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi tom. that would be just the sort of thing, so that you could find out more about whoever you were fighting before each match, and being available with a key press would indeed make it optional. Beware the Grue! Dark. - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi tom. I will confess that me using wrestlers as all purpose figures was just something I generally did, since usually i made up long and complex stories with all sorts of figures and had many that I didn't know the derivation of at all but which looked good, as well as everything from starwarss, ghost busters, heman, wrestlers, Turtles, and goodness knows what else, indeed I must've had over 300 figures as a child collected betwene the ages of 5 and about 15, often bought second hand though some new, and since I didn't tend to break them I had a hole bunch with which i played out increasingly more complex stories. Indeed I only stopped when i realized I didn't need! figures to make up stories and could do it in my head just as well :d. About the closest I ever got to playing About the closest I ever got to actually playing wrestlers was when I played various fighting tournament type games, but even then i preferd to make up my own back stories for the characters rather than playing who they actually were, (legion of doom made great cyberpunks). Getting back to the game though, I fully agree about wrestling fudes and the storyline being a major aspect (indeed as you said yourself given the corriography and match fixing likely the main aspect). While I know something like that would be pretty hard to add to a game without a fairly complex events system that would be hell to write, one thing you could! do for none wwe fans and also to add some flavour would be to include short profiles of each wrestler, which could be read both when the player chooses which wrestler he/she wants to play as, and before each match so that the player knows a bit about the personality, style and aspect of who they are fighting against, thus making matches say betwene a face and a heal have a little more prominance just as they would on roar or smackdown. These wouldn't need to be too long, perhaps 200 words max, but would just give a little extra to the game. beware the Grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Tom. The game sounds great and even though I'm at best a casual wrestling fan if at all I do look forward to playing it. I see the problem with names and copywrite, that naming it after a wrestling game, which of course in turn are named after wrestling events would be a problematic thing, I also see the issue with generic sports sounding names. Therefore, my own suggestion would be a name similar to piledriver, a name that refers to the sport of wrestling rather than to a particular federation or event, but which sounds interesting and appealing and not just a bare bones description. Something like power slam, three count, pin bdownn or gorilla press. As an alternative you mightbalso have a name refering to the wrestlers themselves but not using the name superstars, rather the way capcom called their wrestling game slam masters. Ring masters, ultimate wrestlers, best of the best etc. Just some thoughts. all the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Thomas, I couldn't resist with a few choices for your wrestling game: Grapple. Pummels Pinfalls and Countouts. No Holds Barred. Battle Royal. Three Second Pinfall. Bloodstained Mat. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Although haven't even listened to pro wrestiling in like last 8 or so years, I think one of Dark's suggestions, power slam was about best. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 1:33 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Help Naming a Wrestling Game Hello everyone, As many of you know I have been working on a wrestling game for quite some time based on the WWE brand of superstars etc. The project started out as an attempt to simply rewrite the Dos Piledriver game, convert it to a 32-bit Windows application, and update the database of superstars with wrestlers like Edge, CM Punk, Sheamus, and so on. Basically, originally it was just going to be an updated version of Piledriver. However, as time went on the game evolved, became much better, and is moving in a direction entirely different from the original intent which is apt to happen with us crazy programmers. That's not such a bad thing. the current version is more like one of Jim Kitchen's sports games with Sapi for play by play action, pull down context menus, contains entrance music, crowd ambiance, start and ending bells, and so forth. In short, the game is no longer Piledriver per say, and is completely something new which I think needs its own title. Here is the problem. There are a number of WWE games on the market for the XBox, Play Station, PSP etc and I definitely don't want to get into entanglements over copyrights if I use a game title like WWE Raw Verses Smackdown, WWE All Stars, WWE Legends, and so forth. Generic names like Wrestling League Manager and so on just don't appeal to me. Piledriver, as mentioned above, is for all intents and purpose a different game which I don't want confused with my creation. So any thoughts or ideas on a cool title for the wrestling game I'm working on? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Powerslam was my favourite suggestion hence why I put it first. The only thing I can think of against power slam is I'm pretty sure I remember a wrestling game called super slam. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help Naming a Wrestling Game Although haven't even listened to pro wrestiling in like last 8 or so years, I think one of Dark's suggestions, power slam was about best. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 1:33 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Help Naming a Wrestling Game Hello everyone, As many of you know I have been working on a wrestling game for quite some time based on the WWE brand of superstars etc. The project started out as an attempt to simply rewrite the Dos Piledriver game, convert it to a 32-bit Windows application, and update the database of superstars with wrestlers like Edge, CM Punk, Sheamus, and so on. Basically, originally it was just going to be an updated version of Piledriver. However, as time went on the game evolved, became much better, and is moving in a direction entirely different from the original intent which is apt to happen with us crazy programmers. That's not such a bad thing. the current version is more like one of Jim Kitchen's sports games with Sapi for play by play action, pull down context menus, contains entrance music, crowd ambiance, start and ending bells, and so forth. In short, the game is no longer Piledriver per say, and is completely something new which I think needs its own title. Here is the problem. There are a number of WWE games on the market for the XBox, Play Station, PSP etc and I definitely don't want to get into entanglements over copyrights if I use a game title like WWE Raw Verses Smackdown, WWE All Stars, WWE Legends, and so forth. Generic names like Wrestling League Manager and so on just don't appeal to me. Piledriver, as mentioned above, is for all intents and purpose a different game which I don't want confused with my creation. So any thoughts or ideas on a cool title for the wrestling game I'm working on? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Tom. I seem to remember superslam being a game for the amigar, though I could be wrong. I don't think however powerslammmers is a trade mark since it was the name for a line of figures. For example, I remember back in the Tmnt days the producer of the figures featured several cyber samurai versions of characters such as Shredder, bebop and karai, however that name turns up a lot in other places, for example in the shadowrun rpg cyber samurai was a specialty class of street samurai. Eitherway if that name doesn't work there are other options. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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The game sounds interesting, and I like the name Power Slam. I am looking forward to this title. I remember watching Hulk Hogan and Rowdy Roddy Piper on Saturday afternoons when I was knee high to a halfling. I think I stopped watching after the stone cold steve austin and the Rock feud. al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 6:33 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Help Naming a Wrestling Game Hello everyone, As many of you know I have been working on a wrestling game for quite some time based on the WWE brand of superstars etc. The project started out as an attempt to simply rewrite the Dos Piledriver game, convert it to a 32-bit Windows application, and update the database of superstars with wrestlers like Edge, CM Punk, Sheamus, and so on. Basically, originally it was just going to be an updated version of Piledriver. However, as time went on the game evolved, became much better, and is moving in a direction entirely different from the original intent which is apt to happen with us crazy programmers. That's not such a bad thing. the current version is more like one of Jim Kitchen's sports games with Sapi for play by play action, pull down context menus, contains entrance music, crowd ambiance, start and ending bells, and so forth. In short, the game is no longer Piledriver per say, and is completely something new which I think needs its own title. Here is the problem. There are a number of WWE games on the market for the XBox, Play Station, PSP etc and I definitely don't want to get into entanglements over copyrights if I use a game title like WWE Raw Verses Smackdown, WWE All Stars, WWE Legends, and so forth. Generic names like Wrestling League Manager and so on just don't appeal to me. Piledriver, as mentioned above, is for all intents and purpose a different game which I don't want confused with my creation. So any thoughts or ideas on a cool title for the wrestling game I'm working on? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Well tom that is true, particularly with nintendo's habbit of using super in front of so many titles for the snes, though at least that was a little more logical than them putting 64 after the names of games for the intendo 64, I remember my brother and I wnted to know where the other 59 super mario games were given there were five in the main series and then suddenly 64 :D. Going back to wrestling games, another nice thing about power slam as a title would be that since it is not! tied completely to wwe, there is no reason you couldn't create your own titles, matches and wrestlers for the game in addition to the wwe ones, perhaps a special circuit or the like. Indeed, one thing my brother and his friends have been doing recently is using the latest playstation wwe title's ability to used digitized photographs of themselves in the game along with a hole bunch of preset emotes and the like, since my brother is a solicitor they've even found him a ring intro which features him coming on with a briefcase and throwing a warrent for losing at his opponent :D. In fact in all seriousness, for someone like myself who is not! particularly a wwe fan, the ability to play as a custome wrestler with your own moves and training would be a lot of fun, even if the wrestlers your own wrestler was matched against were actual ones from the wwe. I actually remember a lot of old football games where this happened back in the 90's, though it seems that isn't the case now, where you could name your own team and players and even decide (within some basic limits), what their strip was, then play against manchester united, Liverpool, and various other well known football teams. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Allan, Wow! I guess you really are out of the loop. WWE has changed a lot since the Attitude Era when Steve Austin and The Rock were the two most popular performers on the roster. These days there is a whole new generation of superstars such as Sheamus, John Cena, CM Punk, Ryback, etc who all emerged over the last 10 years or so as well as some classics like Chris Jericho and The Rock who got there start back in the Attitude Era. That's only the mail roster. The Divas division has grown and expanded a lot over the last decade, and there have been several female superstars who have come and gone such as Mickie James, Trish Stratus, Candice Michelle, Michelle McCool, Layla El, Maryse, Melina Parez, Beth Phoenix, Kelly Kelly, and the list goes on. On 3/2/13, Allan Thompson allan1.thomp...@cox.net wrote: The game sounds interesting, and I like the name Power Slam. I am looking forward to this title. I remember watching Hulk Hogan and Rowdy Roddy Piper on Saturday afternoons when I was knee high to a halfling. I think I stopped watching after the stone cold steve austin and the Rock feud. al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 6:33 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Help Naming a Wrestling Game Hello everyone, As many of you know I have been working on a wrestling game for quite some time based on the WWE brand of superstars etc. The project started out as an attempt to simply rewrite the Dos Piledriver game, convert it to a 32-bit Windows application, and update the database of superstars with wrestlers like Edge, CM Punk, Sheamus, and so on. Basically, originally it was just going to be an updated version of Piledriver. However, as time went on the game evolved, became much better, and is moving in a direction entirely different from the original intent which is apt to happen with us crazy programmers. That's not such a bad thing. the current version is more like one of Jim Kitchen's sports games with Sapi for play by play action, pull down context menus, contains entrance music, crowd ambiance, start and ending bells, and so forth. In short, the game is no longer Piledriver per say, and is completely something new which I think needs its own title. Here is the problem. There are a number of WWE games on the market for the XBox, Play Station, PSP etc and I definitely don't want to get into entanglements over copyrights if I use a game title like WWE Raw Verses Smackdown, WWE All Stars, WWE Legends, and so forth. Generic names like Wrestling League Manager and so on just don't appeal to me. Piledriver, as mentioned above, is for all intents and purpose a different game which I don't want confused with my creation. So any thoughts or ideas on a cool title for the wrestling game I'm working on? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help Naming a Wrestling Game
Fair enough Tom, this is your game after all, and I do remember back when I was 10 or 12 being a fan of wrestlers like Hulk hogan and the undertaker so i would at least have someone familiar to play, albeit that thiswas more because a friend of mine at the time was a major wrestling fan, and that I liked collecting and playing with the then wwf wrestling figures simply as figures. Funnily enough, sergeant slaughter, legion of doom, the undertaker and the nasty boys up in space marine armour and have them go off to fight aliens with Ripley and co worked surprisingly well :D. Of course after I fell out with that particular friend at the age of twelve my interest in wrestling pretty much stopped dead, and though I have seen films with Hulk Hogan, the rock and steve ostin since then I've not really watched the events, indeed all I know of modern wrestlers I got from my brother, who is a little more of a fan than I am, mostly due to the fact that for several years he played in the world championships of the raw deal wwe themed ccg. that being said, I do find myself slightly more interested in a wrestling game than i would be in a game of other sports, since like boxing it does have the beat em up aspects as a game and is therefore possibly more appealing than some sports games would be on it's own merrits even to none wrestling fans, since after all there have also always been a lot of what you could call fictional wrestling gamees such as saturday night slam masters. Indeed in boxing terms there are probably more fictional boxing games than real ones, some of which like super punchout have become quite famous on their own merrits. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help Naming a Wrestling Game
Hello, Thomas. You could call the game The Accessible Wrestling Game. Or if you are going to release the game for free you could just call it WWE the game. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
