[gatortalk] Home BB opener

2017-11-13 Thread Charles Simpson
Lots of fun at the BB home opener. The Gators are a very athletic bunch and 
can rain 3's by the bucket. The grad transfer Egor Koulechov was a one man 
wrecking crew. Could be a big season for the Gators.
Now let me get on a soapbox for a minute. The attendance was pathetic, they 
may say there was 8600 there but I think it was more like 6500-7000.  It's 
a shame they can't draw better than that. I realize it's a Monday night but 
it was sad to see all those empty seats.

Charlie


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Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com

2017-11-13 Thread ken







 The SEC office has already cleared Florida to pursue Kelly.  
This was completed last Friday.
I’m pretty sure that is where the first Kelly to Florida leaks started, 
although I admittedly have no inside information to support that statement.



Ken Kirkley





On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 2:58 PM -0500, "Woody"  wrote:










Won't happen. Not unless they have a stronger argument... which I doubt would 
be the case. What could they really tell them that UF couldnt?
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Charles Simpson  wrote:









The thing that will really p*** me off is if the SEC tells Florida no on Kelly 
but tells Tennessee or Arkansas or Ole Miss or Texas A yes.

Charlie





On November 13, 2017 2:36:19 PM Oliver Barry  wrote:

You have to remember, the SEC was close to going down the same road as the old 
Southwest conference. 
There’s no way we’re going there again. 



Oliver Barry CRS, GRI
Real Estate Broker
PARKS Real Estate Services
305 B Indian Lake Blvd
Suite 220
Hendersonville TN 37075
Office: 615-826-4040
Mobile: 615-972-4239
bar...@realtracs.com



On Nov 13, 2017, at 1:02 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk 
 wrote:







Unreal. With all of the rampant cheating that goes on unchecked, the SEC can 
stand in our way of hiring a coach that is ok with the NCAA.
What an ass-backwards conference (not that it is a relevation).










On Monday, November 13, 2017, 2:00:36 PM EST, Woody  
wrote:










The NCAA one has yes.  The SEC  has a rule in place that if you ever have a 
show-cause it has to go through Sankey



On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 1:26 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk
 wrote:




Why does Sankey get a say in who UF hires? The show cause order has long since 
expired.











On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:52:00 PM EST, Woody  
wrote:










Remember.. Sankey would have to give his seal of approval if it is Kelly. With 
the drama going on at Auburn and the FBI investigation... I am not sure he will 
take that chance.















On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 12:44 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk
 wrote:






I think Kelly is Stricklin's first choice. I agree with Ken, the NCAA is on 
record as saying that he had no knowledge of the violations that led to his 
show cause sanction. It is widely believed that he agreed to take the fall to 
spare the coaches that
 he left behind at Oregon when he went to coach in the NFL.



I am still very hopeful that he will be named our new head football coach. JMO 
of course.













On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:12:50 PM EST, Ken Kirkley  
wrote:















Last year Alabama got hit with the same charge.  An assistant was hit with a 
show cause but King Saban got off scott free.  Chip Kelly would not have had a 
show cause if he stayed in college, rather he was on his way to the Pros and 
didn’t appeal the ruling. 




 



I was initially opposed to Chip Kelly, but after digging into the violations at 
Oregon, I would be happy if he was the choice.



 



Overall, the one thing going for us in this search versus past searches, there 
are a variety of really good candidates.  Each have their pros and cons, but 
having a good pool to choose from is pretty nice.



 



Ken



 




From: 
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On Behalf Of Woody



Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 11:48 AM

To: Gatortalk 

Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip 
Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return -
CBSSports.com









 




Still have to wonder if Sankey would even give the ok especially with what 
Auburn is going through right now. I personally don't think Stricklin would 
take that  kind of risk with his first major hire like that either.




 





Woody





 





 






 




On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Oliver Barry  wrote:





This is why I don’t think Chip Kelly will be hired at Florida, or Tennessee. 




Oliver Barry CRS, GRI




Real Estate Broker





PARKS Real Estate Services





305 B Indian Lake Blvd





Suite 220





Hendersonville TN 37075





Office:
615-826-4040





Mobile: 615-972-4239





bar...@realtracs.com








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From: Woody Bass 

Date: November 13, 2017 at 10:14:24 AM CST

To: 
gatorn...@googlegroups.com

Subject: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are 
obstacles to his return -
CBSSports.com

Reply-To: 
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Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com

2017-11-13 Thread Woody
Won't happen. Not unless they have a stronger argument... which I doubt
would be the case. What could they really tell them that UF couldnt?

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Charles Simpson 
wrote:

> The thing that will really p*** me off is if the SEC tells Florida no on
> Kelly but tells Tennessee or Arkansas or Ole Miss or Texas A yes.
> Charlie
>
> On November 13, 2017 2:36:19 PM Oliver Barry  wrote:
>
>> You have to remember, the SEC was close to going down the same road as
>> the old Southwest conference.
>> There’s no way we’re going there again.
>>
>> Oliver Barry CRS, GRI
>> Real Estate Broker
>> PARKS Real Estate Services
>> 305 B Indian Lake Blvd
>> 
>> Suite 220
>> 
>> Hendersonville TN 37075
>> 
>> Office: 615-826-4040 <(615)%20826-4040>
>> Mobile: 615-972-4239 <(615)%20972-4239>
>> bar...@realtracs.com
>>
>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 1:02 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk <
>> gatortalk@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> Unreal. With all of the rampant cheating that goes on unchecked, the SEC
>> can stand in our way of hiring a coach that is ok with the NCAA.
>> What an ass-backwards conference (not that it is a relevation).
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 2:00:36 PM EST, Woody 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> The NCAA one has yes.  The SEC  has a rule in place that if you ever have
>> a show-cause it has to go through Sankey
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 1:26 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk <
>> gatortalk@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> Why does Sankey get a say in who UF hires? The show cause order has long
>> since expired.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:52:00 PM EST, Woody <
>> gatorrr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Remember.. Sankey would have to give his seal of approval if it is Kelly.
>> With the drama going on at Auburn and the FBI investigation... I am not
>> sure he will take that chance.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 12:44 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk <
>> gatortalk@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> I think Kelly is Stricklin's first choice. I agree with Ken, the NCAA is
>> on record as saying that he had no knowledge of the violations that led to
>> his show cause sanction. It is widely believed that he agreed to take the
>> fall to spare the coaches that he left behind at Oregon when he went to
>> coach in the NFL.
>>
>> I am still very hopeful that he will be named our new head football
>> coach. JMO of course.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:12:50 PM EST, Ken Kirkley <
>> k...@kirkley.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Last year Alabama got hit with the same charge.  An assistant was hit
>> with a show cause but King Saban got off scott free.  Chip Kelly would not
>> have had a show cause if he stayed in college, rather he was on his way to
>> the Pros and didn’t appeal the ruling.
>>
>>
>>
>> I was initially opposed to Chip Kelly, but after digging into the
>> violations at Oregon, I would be happy if he was the choice.
>>
>>
>>
>> Overall, the one thing going for us in this search versus past searches,
>> there are a variety of really good candidates.  Each have their pros and
>> cons, but having a good pool to choose from is pretty nice.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@ googlegroups.com
>> ] *On Behalf Of *Woody
>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 13, 2017 11:48 AM
>> *To:* Gatortalk 
>> *Subject:* Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating
>> over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Still have to wonder if Sankey would even give the ok especially with
>> what Auburn is going through right now. I personally don't think Stricklin
>> would take that  kind of risk with his first major hire like that either.
>>
>>
>>
>> Woody
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Oliver Barry 
>> wrote:
>>
>> This is why I don’t think Chip Kelly will be hired at Florida, or
>> Tennessee.
>>
>> Oliver Barry CRS, GRI
>>
>> Real Estate Broker
>>
>> PARKS Real Estate Services
>>
>> 305 B Indian Lake Blvd
>> 
>>
>> Suite 220
>> 
>>
>> Hendersonville TN 37075
>> 
>>
>> Office:
>> 

Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com

2017-11-13 Thread Woody
O  we have the best compliance staff in the country. I am sure they are
HEAVILY involved no matter who they are looking at.

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 2:26 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk <
gatortalk@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> An attorney I know says that part of the vetting process would surely have
> had Stricklin meeting with and getting approval from the league office
> before entering serious/prolonged negotiations. I hope he's right.
>
>
> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 2:22:29 PM EST, Woody 
> wrote:
>
>
> Well...  I think you can thank the FBI/Auburn drama if Sankey says no.
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 2:02 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk <
> gatortalk@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Unreal. With all of the rampant cheating that goes on unchecked, the SEC
> can stand in our way of hiring a coach that is ok with the NCAA.
> What an ass-backwards conference (not that it is a relevation).
>
>
> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 2:00:36 PM EST, Woody 
> wrote:
>
>
> The NCAA one has yes.  The SEC  has a rule in place that if you ever have
> a show-cause it has to go through Sankey
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 1:26 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk <
> gatortalk@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Why does Sankey get a say in who UF hires? The show cause order has long
> since expired.
>
>
> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:52:00 PM EST, Woody 
> wrote:
>
>
> Remember.. Sankey would have to give his seal of approval if it is Kelly.
> With the drama going on at Auburn and the FBI investigation... I am not
> sure he will take that chance.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 12:44 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk <
> gatortalk@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> I think Kelly is Stricklin's first choice. I agree with Ken, the NCAA is
> on record as saying that he had no knowledge of the violations that led to
> his show cause sanction. It is widely believed that he agreed to take the
> fall to spare the coaches that he left behind at Oregon when he went to
> coach in the NFL.
>
> I am still very hopeful that he will be named our new head football coach.
> JMO of course.
>
>
> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:12:50 PM EST, Ken Kirkley <
> k...@kirkley.net> wrote:
>
>
> Last year Alabama got hit with the same charge.  An assistant was hit with
> a show cause but King Saban got off scott free.  Chip Kelly would not have
> had a show cause if he stayed in college, rather he was on his way to the
> Pros and didn’t appeal the ruling.
>
>
>
> I was initially opposed to Chip Kelly, but after digging into the
> violations at Oregon, I would be happy if he was the choice.
>
>
>
> Overall, the one thing going for us in this search versus past searches,
> there are a variety of really good candidates.  Each have their pros and
> cons, but having a good pool to choose from is pretty nice.
>
>
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@ googlegroups.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Woody
>
> *Sent:* Monday, November 13, 2017 11:48 AM
> *To:* Gatortalk 
> *Subject:* Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating
> over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com
>
>
>
> Still have to wonder if Sankey would even give the ok especially with what
> Auburn is going through right now. I personally don't think Stricklin would
> take that  kind of risk with his first major hire like that either.
>
>
>
> Woody
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Oliver Barry 
> wrote:
>
> This is why I don’t think Chip Kelly will be hired at Florida, or
> Tennessee.
>
> Oliver Barry CRS, GRI
>
> Real Estate Broker
>
> PARKS Real Estate Services
>
> 305 B Indian Lake Blvd
> 
>
> Suite 220
> 
>
> Hendersonville TN 37075
> 
>
> Office:
> 
> 615-826-4040
>
> Mobile: 615-972-4239
>
> bar...@realtracs.com
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From:* Woody Bass 
> *Date:* November 13, 2017 at 10:14:24 AM CST
> *To:* gatorn...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* *[gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but
> there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com *
> *Reply-To:* 

Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com

2017-11-13 Thread Charles Simpson
The thing that will really p*** me off is if the SEC tells Florida no on Kelly 
but tells Tennessee or Arkansas or Ole Miss or Texas A yes.
Charlie

On November 13, 2017 2:36:19 PM Oliver Barry  wrote:

You have to remember, the SEC was close to going down the same road as the old 
Southwest conference.
There’s no way we’re going there again.

Oliver Barry CRS, GRI
Real Estate Broker
PARKS Real Estate Services
305 B Indian Lake Blvd
Suite 220
Hendersonville TN 37075
Office: 615-826-4040
Mobile: 615-972-4239
bar...@realtracs.com

On Nov 13, 2017, at 1:02 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk 
> wrote:

Unreal. With all of the rampant cheating that goes on unchecked, the SEC can 
stand in our way of hiring a coach that is ok with the NCAA.
What an ass-backwards conference (not that it is a relevation).


On Monday, November 13, 2017, 2:00:36 PM EST, Woody 
> wrote:


The NCAA one has yes.  The SEC  has a rule in place that if you ever have a 
show-cause it has to go through Sankey

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 1:26 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk 
> wrote:
Why does Sankey get a say in who UF hires? The show cause order has long since 
expired.


On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:52:00 PM EST, Woody 
> wrote:


Remember.. Sankey would have to give his seal of approval if it is Kelly. With 
the drama going on at Auburn and the FBI investigation... I am not sure he will 
take that chance.




On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 12:44 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk 
> wrote:
I think Kelly is Stricklin's first choice. I agree with Ken, the NCAA is on 
record as saying that he had no knowledge of the violations that led to his 
show cause sanction. It is widely believed that he agreed to take the fall to 
spare the coaches that he left behind at Oregon when he went to coach in the 
NFL.

I am still very hopeful that he will be named our new head football coach. JMO 
of course.


On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:12:50 PM EST, Ken Kirkley 
> wrote:



Last year Alabama got hit with the same charge.  An assistant was hit with a 
show cause but King Saban got off scott free.  Chip Kelly would not have had a 
show cause if he stayed in college, rather he was on his way to the Pros and 
didn’t appeal the ruling.



I was initially opposed to Chip Kelly, but after digging into the violations at 
Oregon, I would be happy if he was the choice.



Overall, the one thing going for us in this search versus past searches, there 
are a variety of really good candidates.  Each have their pros and cons, but 
having a good pool to choose from is pretty nice.



Ken



From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:gatortalk@ googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Woody

Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 11:48 AM
To: Gatortalk >
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip 
Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - 
CBSSports.com



Still have to wonder if Sankey would even give the ok especially with what 
Auburn is going through right now. I personally don't think Stricklin would 
take that  kind of risk with his first major hire like that either.



Woody







On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Oliver Barry 
> wrote:

This is why I don’t think Chip Kelly will be hired at Florida, or Tennessee.

Oliver Barry CRS, GRI

Real Estate Broker

PARKS Real Estate Services

305 B Indian Lake 
Blvd

Suite 
220

Hendersonville TN 
37075

Office: 

 615-826-4040

Mobile: 615-972-4239

bar...@realtracs.com

Begin forwarded message:

From: Woody Bass >
Date: November 13, 2017 at 10:14:24 AM CST
To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com
Subject: 

Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com

2017-11-13 Thread Oliver Barry
You have to remember, the SEC was close to going down the same road as the old 
Southwest conference. 
There’s no way we’re going there again. 

Oliver Barry CRS, GRI
Real Estate Broker
PARKS Real Estate Services
305 B Indian Lake Blvd
Suite 220
Hendersonville TN 37075
Office: 615-826-4040
Mobile: 615-972-4239
bar...@realtracs.com

> On Nov 13, 2017, at 1:02 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Unreal. With all of the rampant cheating that goes on unchecked, the SEC can 
> stand in our way of hiring a coach that is ok with the NCAA.
> What an ass-backwards conference (not that it is a relevation).
> 
> 
> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 2:00:36 PM EST, Woody  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> The NCAA one has yes.  The SEC  has a rule in place that if you ever have a 
> show-cause it has to go through Sankey
> 
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 1:26 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk 
>  wrote:
> Why does Sankey get a say in who UF hires? The show cause order has long 
> since expired.
> 
> 
> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:52:00 PM EST, Woody  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Remember.. Sankey would have to give his seal of approval if it is Kelly. 
> With the drama going on at Auburn and the FBI investigation... I am not sure 
> he will take that chance.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 12:44 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk 
>  wrote:
> I think Kelly is Stricklin's first choice. I agree with Ken, the NCAA is on 
> record as saying that he had no knowledge of the violations that led to his 
> show cause sanction. It is widely believed that he agreed to take the fall to 
> spare the coaches that he left behind at Oregon when he went to coach in the 
> NFL.
> 
> I am still very hopeful that he will be named our new head football coach. 
> JMO of course.
> 
> 
> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:12:50 PM EST, Ken Kirkley  
> wrote: 
> 
> 
> Last year Alabama got hit with the same charge.  An assistant was hit with a 
> show cause but King Saban got off scott free.  Chip Kelly would not have had 
> a show cause if he stayed in college, rather he was on his way to the Pros 
> and didn’t appeal the ruling. 
> 
>  
> 
> I was initially opposed to Chip Kelly, but after digging into the violations 
> at Oregon, I would be happy if he was the choice.
> 
>  
> 
> Overall, the one thing going for us in this search versus past searches, 
> there are a variety of really good candidates.  Each have their pros and 
> cons, but having a good pool to choose from is pretty nice.
> 
>  
> 
> Ken
> 
>  
> 
> From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@ googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Woody
> 
> 
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 11:48 AM
> To: Gatortalk 
> Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over 
> Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com
>  
> 
> Still have to wonder if Sankey would even give the ok especially with what 
> Auburn is going through right now. I personally don't think Stricklin would 
> take that  kind of risk with his first major hire like that either.
> 
>  
> 
> Woody
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Oliver Barry  wrote:
> 
> This is why I don’t think Chip Kelly will be hired at Florida, or Tennessee. 
> 
> Oliver Barry CRS, GRI
> 
> Real Estate Broker
> 
> PARKS Real Estate Services
> 
> 305 B Indian Lake Blvd
> 
> Suite 220
> 
> Hendersonville TN 37075
> 
> Office: 615-826-4040
> 
> Mobile: 615-972-4239
> 
> bar...@realtracs.com
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Woody Bass 
> Date: November 13, 2017 at 10:14:24 AM CST
> To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there 
> are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com
> Reply-To: gatornews+owners@googlegroups. com
> 
> 
> https://www.cbssports.com/ college-football/news/ programs-may-be-salivating- 
> over-chip-kelly-but-there-are- obstacles-to-his-return/
> 
> Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his 
> return
> ·  By Dennis Dodd Oct 4, 2017
> 
> Chip Kelly's near-term college job prospects dimmed last week.
> 
> Never mind the former Oregon coach may not formally be looking while working 
> in an ESPN studio this season. In a lot of people's minds, Kelly is the best 
> coach not to be on a sideline.
> 
> In fact, his name surfaced this week as a possible replacement for Butch 
> Jones at Tennessee.
> 
> But if and when he returns to college, Kelly would come with newly defined 
> baggage thanks to the ongoing FBI investigation into college basketball 
> revealed last week.
> 
> It has been almost 4½ years since Kelly was sanctioned by the NCAA after he 
> had left for the Philadelphia Eagles. He was slapped with "failure to 
> monitor" in the 

Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com

2017-11-13 Thread Oliver Barry
That’s my bet. Sankey will veto it. 
That’s IF Florida goes there at all. 

Oliver Barry CRS, GRI
Real Estate Broker
PARKS Real Estate Services
305 B Indian Lake Blvd
Suite 220
Hendersonville TN 37075
Office: 615-826-4040
Mobile: 615-972-4239
bar...@realtracs.com

> On Nov 13, 2017, at 11:51 AM, Woody  wrote:
> 
> Remember.. Sankey would have to give his seal of approval if it is Kelly. 
> With the drama going on at Auburn and the FBI investigation... I am not sure 
> he will take that chance.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 12:44 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk 
>>  wrote:
>> I think Kelly is Stricklin's first choice. I agree with Ken, the NCAA is on 
>> record as saying that he had no knowledge of the violations that led to his 
>> show cause sanction. It is widely believed that he agreed to take the fall 
>> to spare the coaches that he left behind at Oregon when he went to coach in 
>> the NFL.
>> 
>> I am still very hopeful that he will be named our new head football coach. 
>> JMO of course.
>> 
>> 
>> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:12:50 PM EST, Ken Kirkley 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Last year Alabama got hit with the same charge.  An assistant was hit with a 
>> show cause but King Saban got off scott free.  Chip Kelly would not have had 
>> a show cause if he stayed in college, rather he was on his way to the Pros 
>> and didn’t appeal the ruling. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I was initially opposed to Chip Kelly, but after digging into the violations 
>> at Oregon, I would be happy if he was the choice.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Overall, the one thing going for us in this search versus past searches, 
>> there are a variety of really good candidates.  Each have their pros and 
>> cons, but having a good pool to choose from is pretty nice.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Ken
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Woody
>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 11:48 AM
>> To: Gatortalk 
>> Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over 
>> Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Still have to wonder if Sankey would even give the ok especially with what 
>> Auburn is going through right now. I personally don't think Stricklin would 
>> take that  kind of risk with his first major hire like that either.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Woody
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Oliver Barry  wrote:
>> 
>> This is why I don’t think Chip Kelly will be hired at Florida, or Tennessee. 
>> 
>> Oliver Barry CRS, GRI
>> 
>> Real Estate Broker
>> 
>> PARKS Real Estate Services
>> 
>> 305 B Indian Lake Blvd
>> 
>> Suite 220
>> 
>> Hendersonville TN 37075
>> 
>> Office: 615-826-4040
>> 
>> Mobile: 615-972-4239
>> 
>> bar...@realtracs.com
>> 
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: Woody Bass 
>> Date: November 13, 2017 at 10:14:24 AM CST
>> To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there 
>> are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com
>> Reply-To: gatornews+own...@googlegroups.com
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/programs-may-be-salivating-over-chip-kelly-but-there-are-obstacles-to-his-return/
>> 
>> Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his 
>> return
>> ·  By Dennis Dodd Oct 4, 2017
>> 
>> Chip Kelly's near-term college job prospects dimmed last week.
>> 
>> Never mind the former Oregon coach may not formally be looking while working 
>> in an ESPN studio this season. In a lot of people's minds, Kelly is the best 
>> coach not to be on a sideline.
>> 
>> In fact, his name surfaced this week as a possible replacement for Butch 
>> Jones at Tennessee.
>> 
>> But if and when he returns to college, Kelly would come with newly defined 
>> baggage thanks to the ongoing FBI investigation into college basketball 
>> revealed last week.
>> 
>> It has been almost 4½ years since Kelly was sanctioned by the NCAA after he 
>> had left for the Philadelphia Eagles. He was slapped with "failure to 
>> monitor" in the infamous Will Lyles affair. Even worse, Kelly was handed an 
>> 18-month show-cause penalty -- basically in abstentia -- after he went to 
>> the NFL.
>> 
>> Oregon was accused of paying $25,000 to Lyles, a shadowy 7-on-7 coach, in 
>> exchange for his guiding players to the Ducks. Lyles admitted as much.
>> 
>> That's basically evidence of the same third-party influence Adidas was 
>> accused of engaging in by the FBI by paying college basketball assistants to 
>> influence players to sign with the shoe giant.
>> 
>> While that sort of college basketball culture has been entrenched for 
>> decades, the NCAA is desperately trying to keep it from filtering into 
>> football. The Lyles case is the biggest and one of the few public examples 
>> 

Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com

2017-11-13 Thread 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk
An attorney I know says that part of the vetting process would surely have had 
Stricklin meeting with and getting approval from the league office before 
entering serious/prolonged negotiations. I hope he's right.
 

On Monday, November 13, 2017, 2:22:29 PM EST, Woody  
wrote:  
 
 Well...  I think you can thank the FBI/Auburn drama if Sankey says no.
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 2:02 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk 
 wrote:

Unreal. With all of the rampant cheating that goes on unchecked, the SEC can 
stand in our way of hiring a coach that is ok with the NCAA.What an 
ass-backwards conference (not that it is a relevation).
 

On Monday, November 13, 2017, 2:00:36 PM EST, Woody  
wrote:  
 
 The NCAA one has yes.  The SEC  has a rule in place that if you ever have a 
show-cause it has to go through Sankey
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 1:26 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk 
 wrote:

Why does Sankey get a say in who UF hires? The show cause order has long since 
expired.
 

On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:52:00 PM EST, Woody  
wrote:  
 
 Remember.. Sankey would have to give his seal of approval if it is Kelly. With 
the drama going on at Auburn and the FBI investigation... I am not sure he will 
take that chance.



On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 12:44 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk 
 wrote:

I think Kelly is Stricklin's first choice. I agree with Ken, the NCAA is on 
record as saying that he had no knowledge of the violations that led to his 
show cause sanction. It is widely believed that he agreed to take the fall to 
spare the coaches that he left behind at Oregon when he went to coach in the 
NFL.
I am still very hopeful that he will be named our new head football coach. JMO 
of course.
 

On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:12:50 PM EST, Ken Kirkley 
 wrote:  
 
 
Last year Alabama got hit with the same charge.  An assistant was hit with a 
show cause but King Saban got off scott free.  Chip Kelly would not have had a 
show cause if he stayed in college, rather he was on his way to the Pros and 
didn’t appeal the ruling.  

  

I was initially opposed to Chip Kelly, but after digging into the violations at 
Oregon, I would be happy if he was the choice.

  

Overall, the one thing going for us in this search versus past searches, there 
are a variety of really good candidates.  Each have their pros and cons, but 
having a good pool to choose from is pretty nice.

  

Ken

  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@ googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Woody

Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 11:48 AM
To: Gatortalk 
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip 
Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com


  

Still have to wonder if Sankey would even give the ok especially with what 
Auburn is going through right now. I personally don't think Stricklin would 
take that  kind of risk with his first major hire like that either.

  

Woody

  

  

  

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Oliver Barry  wrote:


This is why I don’t think Chip Kelly will be hired at Florida, or Tennessee. 

Oliver Barry CRS, GRI

Real Estate Broker

PARKS Real Estate Services

305 B Indian Lake Blvd

Suite 220

Hendersonville TN 37075

Office: 615-826-4040

Mobile: 615-972-4239

bar...@realtracs.com


Begin forwarded message:


From: Woody Bass 
Date: November 13, 2017 at 10:14:24 AM CST
To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are 
obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com
Reply-To: gatornews+owners@googlegroups. com




https://www.cbssports.com/ college-football/news/ programs-may-be-salivating- 
over-chip-kelly-but-there-are- obstacles-to-his-return/

Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his 
return

·  By Dennis Dodd Oct 4, 2017

Chip Kelly's near-term college job prospects dimmed last week.

Never mind the former Oregon coach may not formally be looking while working in 
an ESPN studio this season. In a lot of people's minds, Kelly is the best coach 
not to be on a sideline.

In fact, his name surfaced this week as a possible replacement for Butch Jones 
at Tennessee. 

But if and when he returns to college, Kelly would come with newly defined 
baggage thanks to the ongoing FBI investigation into college basketball 
revealed last week.

It has been almost 4½ years since Kelly was sanctioned by the NCAA after he had 
left for the Philadelphia Eagles. He was slapped with "failure to monitor" in 
the infamous Will Lyles affair. Even worse, Kelly was handed an 18-month 
show-cause penalty -- basically in abstentia -- after he went to the NFL. 

Oregon was accused of paying $25,000 to Lyles, a shadowy 7-on-7 coach, in 
exchange for 

Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com

2017-11-13 Thread Woody
Well...  I think you can thank the FBI/Auburn drama if Sankey says no.

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 2:02 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk <
gatortalk@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Unreal. With all of the rampant cheating that goes on unchecked, the SEC
> can stand in our way of hiring a coach that is ok with the NCAA.
> What an ass-backwards conference (not that it is a relevation).
>
>
> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 2:00:36 PM EST, Woody 
> wrote:
>
>
> The NCAA one has yes.  The SEC  has a rule in place that if you ever have
> a show-cause it has to go through Sankey
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 1:26 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk <
> gatortalk@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Why does Sankey get a say in who UF hires? The show cause order has long
> since expired.
>
>
> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:52:00 PM EST, Woody 
> wrote:
>
>
> Remember.. Sankey would have to give his seal of approval if it is Kelly.
> With the drama going on at Auburn and the FBI investigation... I am not
> sure he will take that chance.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 12:44 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk <
> gatortalk@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> I think Kelly is Stricklin's first choice. I agree with Ken, the NCAA is
> on record as saying that he had no knowledge of the violations that led to
> his show cause sanction. It is widely believed that he agreed to take the
> fall to spare the coaches that he left behind at Oregon when he went to
> coach in the NFL.
>
> I am still very hopeful that he will be named our new head football coach.
> JMO of course.
>
>
> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:12:50 PM EST, Ken Kirkley <
> k...@kirkley.net> wrote:
>
>
> Last year Alabama got hit with the same charge.  An assistant was hit with
> a show cause but King Saban got off scott free.  Chip Kelly would not have
> had a show cause if he stayed in college, rather he was on his way to the
> Pros and didn’t appeal the ruling.
>
>
>
> I was initially opposed to Chip Kelly, but after digging into the
> violations at Oregon, I would be happy if he was the choice.
>
>
>
> Overall, the one thing going for us in this search versus past searches,
> there are a variety of really good candidates.  Each have their pros and
> cons, but having a good pool to choose from is pretty nice.
>
>
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@ googlegroups.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Woody
>
> *Sent:* Monday, November 13, 2017 11:48 AM
> *To:* Gatortalk 
> *Subject:* Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating
> over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com
>
>
>
> Still have to wonder if Sankey would even give the ok especially with what
> Auburn is going through right now. I personally don't think Stricklin would
> take that  kind of risk with his first major hire like that either.
>
>
>
> Woody
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Oliver Barry 
> wrote:
>
> This is why I don’t think Chip Kelly will be hired at Florida, or
> Tennessee.
>
> Oliver Barry CRS, GRI
>
> Real Estate Broker
>
> PARKS Real Estate Services
>
> 305 B Indian Lake Blvd
> 
>
> Suite 220
> 
>
> Hendersonville TN 37075
> 
>
> Office:
> 
> 615-826-4040
>
> Mobile: 615-972-4239
>
> bar...@realtracs.com
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From:* Woody Bass 
> *Date:* November 13, 2017 at 10:14:24 AM CST
> *To:* gatorn...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* *[gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but
> there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com *
> *Reply-To:* gatornews+owners@googlegroups. com
> 
>
>
> https://www.cbssports.com/ college-football/news/
> programs-may-be-salivating- over-chip-kelly-but-there-are-
> obstacles-to-his-return/
> 
> Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his
> return
>
> ·  By Dennis Dodd Oct 4,
> 2017
>
> Chip Kelly's near-term college job prospects dimmed last 

Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com

2017-11-13 Thread 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk
Unreal. With all of the rampant cheating that goes on unchecked, the SEC can 
stand in our way of hiring a coach that is ok with the NCAA.What an 
ass-backwards conference (not that it is a relevation).
 

On Monday, November 13, 2017, 2:00:36 PM EST, Woody  
wrote:  
 
 The NCAA one has yes.  The SEC  has a rule in place that if you ever have a 
show-cause it has to go through Sankey
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 1:26 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk 
 wrote:

Why does Sankey get a say in who UF hires? The show cause order has long since 
expired.
 

On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:52:00 PM EST, Woody  
wrote:  
 
 Remember.. Sankey would have to give his seal of approval if it is Kelly. With 
the drama going on at Auburn and the FBI investigation... I am not sure he will 
take that chance.



On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 12:44 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk 
 wrote:

I think Kelly is Stricklin's first choice. I agree with Ken, the NCAA is on 
record as saying that he had no knowledge of the violations that led to his 
show cause sanction. It is widely believed that he agreed to take the fall to 
spare the coaches that he left behind at Oregon when he went to coach in the 
NFL.
I am still very hopeful that he will be named our new head football coach. JMO 
of course.
 

On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:12:50 PM EST, Ken Kirkley 
 wrote:  
 
 
Last year Alabama got hit with the same charge.  An assistant was hit with a 
show cause but King Saban got off scott free.  Chip Kelly would not have had a 
show cause if he stayed in college, rather he was on his way to the Pros and 
didn’t appeal the ruling.  

  

I was initially opposed to Chip Kelly, but after digging into the violations at 
Oregon, I would be happy if he was the choice.

  

Overall, the one thing going for us in this search versus past searches, there 
are a variety of really good candidates.  Each have their pros and cons, but 
having a good pool to choose from is pretty nice.

  

Ken

  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@ googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Woody

Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 11:48 AM
To: Gatortalk 
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip 
Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com


  

Still have to wonder if Sankey would even give the ok especially with what 
Auburn is going through right now. I personally don't think Stricklin would 
take that  kind of risk with his first major hire like that either.

  

Woody

  

  

  

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Oliver Barry  wrote:


This is why I don’t think Chip Kelly will be hired at Florida, or Tennessee. 

Oliver Barry CRS, GRI

Real Estate Broker

PARKS Real Estate Services

305 B Indian Lake Blvd

Suite 220

Hendersonville TN 37075

Office: 615-826-4040

Mobile: 615-972-4239

bar...@realtracs.com


Begin forwarded message:


From: Woody Bass 
Date: November 13, 2017 at 10:14:24 AM CST
To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are 
obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com
Reply-To: gatornews+owners@googlegroups. com




https://www.cbssports.com/ college-football/news/ programs-may-be-salivating- 
over-chip-kelly-but-there-are- obstacles-to-his-return/

Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his 
return

·  By Dennis Dodd Oct 4, 2017

Chip Kelly's near-term college job prospects dimmed last week.

Never mind the former Oregon coach may not formally be looking while working in 
an ESPN studio this season. In a lot of people's minds, Kelly is the best coach 
not to be on a sideline.

In fact, his name surfaced this week as a possible replacement for Butch Jones 
at Tennessee. 

But if and when he returns to college, Kelly would come with newly defined 
baggage thanks to the ongoing FBI investigation into college basketball 
revealed last week.

It has been almost 4½ years since Kelly was sanctioned by the NCAA after he had 
left for the Philadelphia Eagles. He was slapped with "failure to monitor" in 
the infamous Will Lyles affair. Even worse, Kelly was handed an 18-month 
show-cause penalty -- basically in abstentia -- after he went to the NFL. 

Oregon was accused of paying $25,000 to Lyles, a shadowy 7-on-7 coach, in 
exchange for his guiding players to the Ducks. Lyles admitted as much. 

That's basically evidence of the same third-party influence Adidas was accused 
of engaging in by the FBI by paying college basketball assistants to influence 
players to sign with the shoe giant.

While that sort of college basketball culture has been entrenched for decades, 
the NCAA is desperately trying to keep it from filtering into football. The 
Lyles case is the biggest and one of the few public examples that 

Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com

2017-11-13 Thread Woody
The NCAA one has yes.  The SEC  has a rule in place that if you ever have a
show-cause it has to go through Sankey

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 1:26 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk <
gatortalk@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Why does Sankey get a say in who UF hires? The show cause order has long
> since expired.
>
>
> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:52:00 PM EST, Woody 
> wrote:
>
>
> Remember.. Sankey would have to give his seal of approval if it is Kelly.
> With the drama going on at Auburn and the FBI investigation... I am not
> sure he will take that chance.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 12:44 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk <
> gatortalk@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> I think Kelly is Stricklin's first choice. I agree with Ken, the NCAA is
> on record as saying that he had no knowledge of the violations that led to
> his show cause sanction. It is widely believed that he agreed to take the
> fall to spare the coaches that he left behind at Oregon when he went to
> coach in the NFL.
>
> I am still very hopeful that he will be named our new head football coach.
> JMO of course.
>
>
> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:12:50 PM EST, Ken Kirkley <
> k...@kirkley.net> wrote:
>
>
> Last year Alabama got hit with the same charge.  An assistant was hit with
> a show cause but King Saban got off scott free.  Chip Kelly would not have
> had a show cause if he stayed in college, rather he was on his way to the
> Pros and didn’t appeal the ruling.
>
>
>
> I was initially opposed to Chip Kelly, but after digging into the
> violations at Oregon, I would be happy if he was the choice.
>
>
>
> Overall, the one thing going for us in this search versus past searches,
> there are a variety of really good candidates.  Each have their pros and
> cons, but having a good pool to choose from is pretty nice.
>
>
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@ googlegroups.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Woody
>
> *Sent:* Monday, November 13, 2017 11:48 AM
> *To:* Gatortalk 
> *Subject:* Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating
> over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com
>
>
>
> Still have to wonder if Sankey would even give the ok especially with what
> Auburn is going through right now. I personally don't think Stricklin would
> take that  kind of risk with his first major hire like that either.
>
>
>
> Woody
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Oliver Barry 
> wrote:
>
> This is why I don’t think Chip Kelly will be hired at Florida, or
> Tennessee.
>
> Oliver Barry CRS, GRI
>
> Real Estate Broker
>
> PARKS Real Estate Services
>
> 305 B Indian Lake Blvd
> 
>
> Suite 220
> 
>
> Hendersonville TN 37075
> 
>
> Office:
> 
> 615-826-4040
>
> Mobile: 615-972-4239
>
> bar...@realtracs.com
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From:* Woody Bass 
> *Date:* November 13, 2017 at 10:14:24 AM CST
> *To:* gatorn...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* *[gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but
> there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com *
> *Reply-To:* gatornews+owners@googlegroups. com
> 
>
>
> https://www.cbssports.com/ college-football/news/
> programs-may-be-salivating- over-chip-kelly-but-there-are-
> obstacles-to-his-return/
> 
> Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his
> return
>
> ·  By Dennis Dodd Oct 4,
> 2017
>
> Chip Kelly's near-term college job prospects dimmed last week.
>
> Never mind the former Oregon
> 
> coach may not formally be looking while working in an ESPN studio this
> season. In a lot of people's minds, Kelly is the best coach not to be on a
> sideline.
>
> In fact, his name surfaced this week as a possible replacement for Butch
> Jones at Tennessee
> .
>
>
> But if and when 

Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com

2017-11-13 Thread 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk
Why does Sankey get a say in who UF hires? The show cause order has long since 
expired.
 

On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:52:00 PM EST, Woody  
wrote:  
 
 Remember.. Sankey would have to give his seal of approval if it is Kelly. With 
the drama going on at Auburn and the FBI investigation... I am not sure he will 
take that chance.



On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 12:44 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk 
 wrote:

I think Kelly is Stricklin's first choice. I agree with Ken, the NCAA is on 
record as saying that he had no knowledge of the violations that led to his 
show cause sanction. It is widely believed that he agreed to take the fall to 
spare the coaches that he left behind at Oregon when he went to coach in the 
NFL.
I am still very hopeful that he will be named our new head football coach. JMO 
of course.
 

On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:12:50 PM EST, Ken Kirkley 
 wrote:  
 
 
Last year Alabama got hit with the same charge.  An assistant was hit with a 
show cause but King Saban got off scott free.  Chip Kelly would not have had a 
show cause if he stayed in college, rather he was on his way to the Pros and 
didn’t appeal the ruling.  

  

I was initially opposed to Chip Kelly, but after digging into the violations at 
Oregon, I would be happy if he was the choice.

  

Overall, the one thing going for us in this search versus past searches, there 
are a variety of really good candidates.  Each have their pros and cons, but 
having a good pool to choose from is pretty nice.

  

Ken

  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@ googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Woody
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 11:48 AM
To: Gatortalk 
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip 
Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com

  

Still have to wonder if Sankey would even give the ok especially with what 
Auburn is going through right now. I personally don't think Stricklin would 
take that  kind of risk with his first major hire like that either.

  

Woody

  

  

  

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Oliver Barry  wrote:


This is why I don’t think Chip Kelly will be hired at Florida, or Tennessee. 

Oliver Barry CRS, GRI

Real Estate Broker

PARKS Real Estate Services

305 B Indian Lake Blvd

Suite 220

Hendersonville TN 37075

Office: 615-826-4040

Mobile: 615-972-4239

bar...@realtracs.com


Begin forwarded message:


From: Woody Bass 
Date: November 13, 2017 at 10:14:24 AM CST
To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are 
obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com
Reply-To: gatornews+owners@googlegroups. com




https://www.cbssports.com/ college-football/news/ programs-may-be-salivating- 
over-chip-kelly-but-there-are- obstacles-to-his-return/

Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his 
return

·  By Dennis Dodd Oct 4, 2017

Chip Kelly's near-term college job prospects dimmed last week.

Never mind the former Oregon coach may not formally be looking while working in 
an ESPN studio this season. In a lot of people's minds, Kelly is the best coach 
not to be on a sideline.

In fact, his name surfaced this week as a possible replacement for Butch Jones 
at Tennessee. 

But if and when he returns to college, Kelly would come with newly defined 
baggage thanks to the ongoing FBI investigation into college basketball 
revealed last week.

It has been almost 4½ years since Kelly was sanctioned by the NCAA after he had 
left for the Philadelphia Eagles. He was slapped with "failure to monitor" in 
the infamous Will Lyles affair. Even worse, Kelly was handed an 18-month 
show-cause penalty -- basically in abstentia -- after he went to the NFL. 

Oregon was accused of paying $25,000 to Lyles, a shadowy 7-on-7 coach, in 
exchange for his guiding players to the Ducks. Lyles admitted as much. 

That's basically evidence of the same third-party influence Adidas was accused 
of engaging in by the FBI by paying college basketball assistants to influence 
players to sign with the shoe giant.

While that sort of college basketball culture has been entrenched for decades, 
the NCAA is desperately trying to keep it from filtering into football. The 
Lyles case is the biggest and one of the few public examples that 7-on-7 is 
becoming the football version of AAU basketball. You know, backroom deals being 
struck with prospects' handlers, cutting the high school coach further and 
further out of the loop. 

"I look back at it now, and [Oregon] paid for what they saw as my access and 
influence with recruits," Lyles told Yahoo Sports earlier this decade. "The 
service I provided went beyond what a scouting service should. … I made a 
mistake, and I'm big enough of a man to admit I was wrong." 

The FBI's college basketball 

Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com

2017-11-13 Thread Woody
Remember.. Sankey would have to give his seal of approval if it is Kelly.
With the drama going on at Auburn and the FBI investigation... I am not
sure he will take that chance.




On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 12:44 PM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk <
gatortalk@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I think Kelly is Stricklin's first choice. I agree with Ken, the NCAA is
> on record as saying that he had no knowledge of the violations that led to
> his show cause sanction. It is widely believed that he agreed to take the
> fall to spare the coaches that he left behind at Oregon when he went to
> coach in the NFL.
>
> I am still very hopeful that he will be named our new head football coach.
> JMO of course.
>
>
> On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:12:50 PM EST, Ken Kirkley <
> k...@kirkley.net> wrote:
>
>
> Last year Alabama got hit with the same charge.  An assistant was hit with
> a show cause but King Saban got off scott free.  Chip Kelly would not have
> had a show cause if he stayed in college, rather he was on his way to the
> Pros and didn’t appeal the ruling.
>
>
>
> I was initially opposed to Chip Kelly, but after digging into the
> violations at Oregon, I would be happy if he was the choice.
>
>
>
> Overall, the one thing going for us in this search versus past searches,
> there are a variety of really good candidates.  Each have their pros and
> cons, but having a good pool to choose from is pretty nice.
>
>
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Woody
> *Sent:* Monday, November 13, 2017 11:48 AM
> *To:* Gatortalk 
> *Subject:* Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating
> over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com
>
>
>
> Still have to wonder if Sankey would even give the ok especially with what
> Auburn is going through right now. I personally don't think Stricklin would
> take that  kind of risk with his first major hire like that either.
>
>
>
> Woody
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Oliver Barry 
> wrote:
>
> This is why I don’t think Chip Kelly will be hired at Florida, or
> Tennessee.
>
> Oliver Barry CRS, GRI
>
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>
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> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From:* Woody Bass 
> *Date:* November 13, 2017 at 10:14:24 AM CST
> *To:* gatorn...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* *[gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but
> there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com *
> *Reply-To:* gatornews+own...@googlegroups.com
>
>
> https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/
> programs-may-be-salivating-over-chip-kelly-but-there-are-
> obstacles-to-his-return/
> Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his
> return
>
> ·  By Dennis Dodd Oct 4,
> 2017
>
> Chip Kelly's near-term college job prospects dimmed last week.
>
> Never mind the former Oregon
> 
> coach may not formally be looking while working in an ESPN studio this
> season. In a lot of people's minds, Kelly is the best coach not to be on a
> sideline.
>
> In fact, his name surfaced this week as a possible replacement for Butch
> Jones at Tennessee
> .
>
>
> But if and when he returns to college, Kelly would come with newly defined
> baggage thanks to the ongoing FBI investigation into college basketball
> revealed last week
> 
> .
>
> It has been almost 4½ years since Kelly was sanctioned by the NCAA after
> he had left for the Philadelphia Eagles
> . He
> was slapped with "failure to monitor" in the infamous Will Lyles affair
> 

Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com

2017-11-13 Thread 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk
I think Kelly is Stricklin's first choice. I agree with Ken, the NCAA is on 
record as saying that he had no knowledge of the violations that led to his 
show cause sanction. It is widely believed that he agreed to take the fall to 
spare the coaches that he left behind at Oregon when he went to coach in the 
NFL.
I am still very hopeful that he will be named our new head football coach. JMO 
of course.
 

On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:12:50 PM EST, Ken Kirkley 
 wrote:  
 
 
Last year Alabama got hit with the same charge.  An assistant was hit with a 
show cause but King Saban got off scott free.  Chip Kelly would not have had a 
show cause if he stayed in college, rather he was on his way to the Pros and 
didn’t appeal the ruling.  

  

I was initially opposed to Chip Kelly, but after digging into the violations at 
Oregon, I would be happy if he was the choice.

  

Overall, the one thing going for us in this search versus past searches, there 
are a variety of really good candidates.  Each have their pros and cons, but 
having a good pool to choose from is pretty nice.

  

Ken

  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Woody
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 11:48 AM
To: Gatortalk 
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip 
Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com

  

Still have to wonder if Sankey would even give the ok especially with what 
Auburn is going through right now. I personally don't think Stricklin would 
take that  kind of risk with his first major hire like that either.

  

Woody

  

  

  

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Oliver Barry  wrote:


This is why I don’t think Chip Kelly will be hired at Florida, or Tennessee. 

Oliver Barry CRS, GRI

Real Estate Broker

PARKS Real Estate Services

305 B Indian Lake Blvd

Suite 220

Hendersonville TN 37075

Office: 615-826-4040

Mobile: 615-972-4239

bar...@realtracs.com


Begin forwarded message:


From: Woody Bass 
Date: November 13, 2017 at 10:14:24 AM CST
To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are 
obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com
Reply-To: gatornews+own...@googlegroups.com




https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/programs-may-be-salivating-over-chip-kelly-but-there-are-obstacles-to-his-return/

Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his 
return

·  By Dennis Dodd Oct 4, 2017

Chip Kelly's near-term college job prospects dimmed last week.

Never mind the former Oregon coach may not formally be looking while working in 
an ESPN studio this season. In a lot of people's minds, Kelly is the best coach 
not to be on a sideline.

In fact, his name surfaced this week as a possible replacement for Butch Jones 
at Tennessee. 

But if and when he returns to college, Kelly would come with newly defined 
baggage thanks to the ongoing FBI investigation into college basketball 
revealed last week.

It has been almost 4½ years since Kelly was sanctioned by the NCAA after he had 
left for the Philadelphia Eagles. He was slapped with "failure to monitor" in 
the infamous Will Lyles affair. Even worse, Kelly was handed an 18-month 
show-cause penalty -- basically in abstentia -- after he went to the NFL. 

Oregon was accused of paying $25,000 to Lyles, a shadowy 7-on-7 coach, in 
exchange for his guiding players to the Ducks. Lyles admitted as much. 

That's basically evidence of the same third-party influence Adidas was accused 
of engaging in by the FBI by paying college basketball assistants to influence 
players to sign with the shoe giant.

While that sort of college basketball culture has been entrenched for decades, 
the NCAA is desperately trying to keep it from filtering into football. The 
Lyles case is the biggest and one of the few public examples that 7-on-7 is 
becoming the football version of AAU basketball. You know, backroom deals being 
struck with prospects' handlers, cutting the high school coach further and 
further out of the loop. 

"I look back at it now, and [Oregon] paid for what they saw as my access and 
influence with recruits," Lyles told Yahoo Sports earlier this decade. "The 
service I provided went beyond what a scouting service should. … I made a 
mistake, and I'm big enough of a man to admit I was wrong." 

The FBI's college basketball investigation has at least put the fear of God 
into college athletics. The under-the-table shoe deals have reportedly slowed 
considerably for the moment. 

The fallout, though, awaits. At best, Kelly might be a test case to how scared 
college administrators are of the FBI banging on their doors. At worst, guys 
like Kelly -- no matter how talented -- might have problems finding work as a 
new normal settles over compliance departments.

One FBS compliance director 

RE: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com

2017-11-13 Thread Ken Kirkley
Last year Alabama got hit with the same charge.  An assistant was hit with a 
show cause but King Saban got off scott free.  Chip Kelly would not have had a 
show cause if he stayed in college, rather he was on his way to the Pros and 
didn’t appeal the ruling.  

 

I was initially opposed to Chip Kelly, but after digging into the violations at 
Oregon, I would be happy if he was the choice.

 

Overall, the one thing going for us in this search versus past searches, there 
are a variety of really good candidates.  Each have their pros and cons, but 
having a good pool to choose from is pretty nice.

 

Ken

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Woody
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 11:48 AM
To: Gatortalk 
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip 
Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com

 

Still have to wonder if Sankey would even give the ok especially with what 
Auburn is going through right now. I personally don't think Stricklin would 
take that  kind of risk with his first major hire like that either.

 

Woody

 

 

 

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Oliver Barry  > wrote:

This is why I don’t think Chip Kelly will be hired at Florida, or Tennessee. 

Oliver Barry CRS, GRI

Real Estate Broker

PARKS Real Estate Services

305 B Indian Lake Blvd 

 

Suite 220 

 

Hendersonville TN 37075 

 

Office: 615-826-4040  

Mobile: 615-972-4239  

bar...@realtracs.com  


Begin forwarded message:

From: Woody Bass  >
Date: November 13, 2017 at 10:14:24 AM CST
To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com  
Subject: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are 
obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com  
Reply-To: gatornews+own...@googlegroups.com 
 


https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/programs-may-be-salivating-over-chip-kelly-but-there-are-obstacles-to-his-return/


Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his 
return


*  By   Dennis Dodd Oct 4, 2017

Chip Kelly's near-term college job prospects dimmed last week.

Never mind the former  
 
Oregon coach may not formally be looking while working in an ESPN studio this 
season. In a lot of people's minds, Kelly is the best coach not to be on a 
sideline.

In fact, his name surfaced this week as a possible replacement for Butch Jones 
at  

 Tennessee. 

But if and when he returns to college, Kelly would come with newly defined 
baggage  

 thanks to the ongoing FBI investigation into college basketball revealed last 
week.

It has been almost 4½ years since Kelly was sanctioned by the NCAA after he had 
left for the  
 Philadelphia 
Eagles. He was  

 slapped with "failure to monitor" in the infamous Will Lyles affair. Even 
worse, Kelly was handed an 18-month show-cause penalty -- basically in 
abstentia -- after he went to the NFL. 

Oregon was accused of paying $25,000 to Lyles, a shadowy 7-on-7 coach, in 
exchange for his guiding players to the Ducks.  

 Lyles admitted as much. 

That's basically evidence of the same third-party influence Adidas was accused 
of engaging in by the FBI by paying college basketball assistants to influence 
players to sign with the shoe giant.

While that sort of college basketball culture has been entrenched for decades, 
the NCAA is desperately trying to keep it from filtering into football. The 
Lyles case is the biggest and one of the few public examples that 7-on-7 is 
becoming the football version of AAU basketball. You know, backroom deals being 
struck with prospects' handlers, cutting the high school coach further and 
further out of the loop. 

"I look back at it now, and [Oregon] paid for what they saw as my access and 
influence with recruits," Lyles told Yahoo 

Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com

2017-11-13 Thread Woody
Still have to wonder if Sankey would even give the ok especially with what
Auburn is going through right now. I personally don't think Stricklin would
take that  kind of risk with his first major hire like that either.

Woody



On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Oliver Barry  wrote:

> This is why I don’t think Chip Kelly will be hired at Florida, or
> Tennessee.
>
> Oliver Barry CRS, GRI
> Real Estate Broker
> PARKS Real Estate Services
> 305 B Indian Lake Blvd
> 
> Suite 220
> 
> Hendersonville TN 37075
> 
> Office: 615-826-4040 <(615)%20826-4040>
> Mobile: 615-972-4239 <(615)%20972-4239>
> bar...@realtracs.com
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From:* Woody Bass 
> *Date:* November 13, 2017 at 10:14:24 AM CST
> *To:* gatorn...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* *[gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but
> there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com *
> *Reply-To:* gatornews+own...@googlegroups.com
>
>
> https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/
> programs-may-be-salivating-over-chip-kelly-but-there-are-
> obstacles-to-his-return/
>
> Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his
> return
> - By Dennis Dodd  Oct 4,
> 2017
>
> Chip Kelly's near-term college job prospects dimmed last week.
>
> Never mind the former Oregon
> 
> coach may not formally be looking while working in an ESPN studio this
> season. In a lot of people's minds, Kelly is the best coach not to be on a
> sideline.
>
> In fact, his name surfaced this week as a possible replacement for Butch
> Jones at Tennessee
> .
>
>
> But if and when he returns to college, Kelly would come with newly defined
> baggage thanks to the ongoing FBI investigation into college basketball
> revealed last week
> 
> .
>
> It has been almost 4½ years since Kelly was sanctioned by the NCAA after
> he had left for the Philadelphia Eagles
> . He
> was slapped with "failure to monitor" in the infamous Will Lyles affair
> .
> Even worse, Kelly was handed an 18-month show-cause penalty -- basically in
> abstentia -- after he went to the NFL.
>
> Oregon was accused of paying $25,000 to Lyles, a shadowy 7-on-7 coach, in
> exchange for his guiding players to the Ducks. Lyles admitted as much.
> 
>
> That's basically evidence of the same third-party influence Adidas was
> accused of engaging in by the FBI by paying college basketball assistants
> to influence players to sign with the shoe giant.
>
> While that sort of college basketball culture has been entrenched for
> decades, the NCAA is desperately trying to keep it from filtering into
> football. The Lyles case is the biggest and one of the few public examples
> that 7-on-7 is becoming the football version of AAU basketball. You know,
> backroom deals being struck with prospects' handlers, cutting the high
> school coach further and further out of the loop.
>
> "I look back at it now, and [Oregon] paid for what they saw as my access
> and influence with recruits," Lyles told Yahoo Sports earlier this decade.
> "The service I provided went beyond what a scouting service should. … I
> made a mistake, and I'm big enough of a man to admit I was wrong."
>
> The FBI's college basketball investigation has at least put the fear of
> God into college athletics. The under-the-table shoe deals have reportedly
> slowed considerably for the moment.
>
> The fallout, though, awaits. At best, Kelly might be a test case to how
> scared college administrators are of the FBI banging on their doors. At
> worst, guys like Kelly -- no matter how talented -- might have problems
> finding work as a new normal settles over compliance departments.
>
> One FBS compliance director suggested any president considering hiring a
> coach with a show-cause "go to bat for him. You gotta understand, no matter
> what you hired him for, he may have restrictions."
>
> Kelly's show-cause expired in late 2014. But the fact that he has such a
> sanction on his record is troubling in this new normal.
>
> The show-cause is considered the NCAA's 

[gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com

2017-11-13 Thread Oliver Barry
This is why I don’t think Chip Kelly will be hired at Florida, or Tennessee. 

Oliver Barry CRS, GRI
Real Estate Broker
PARKS Real Estate Services
305 B Indian Lake Blvd
Suite 220
Hendersonville TN 37075
Office: 615-826-4040
Mobile: 615-972-4239
bar...@realtracs.com

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Woody Bass 
> Date: November 13, 2017 at 10:14:24 AM CST
> To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [gatornews] Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there 
> are obstacles to his return - CBSSports.com
> Reply-To: gatornews+own...@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/programs-may-be-salivating-over-chip-kelly-but-there-are-obstacles-to-his-return/
> 
> Programs may be salivating over Chip Kelly, but there are obstacles to his 
> return
> By Dennis Dodd Oct 4, 2017
> Chip Kelly's near-term college job prospects dimmed last week.
> 
> Never mind the former Oregon coach may not formally be looking while working 
> in an ESPN studio this season. In a lot of people's minds, Kelly is the best 
> coach not to be on a sideline.
> 
> In fact, his name surfaced this week as a possible replacement for Butch 
> Jones at Tennessee.
> 
> But if and when he returns to college, Kelly would come with newly defined 
> baggage thanks to the ongoing FBI investigation into college basketball 
> revealed last week.
> 
> It has been almost 4½ years since Kelly was sanctioned by the NCAA after he 
> had left for the Philadelphia Eagles. He was slapped with "failure to 
> monitor" in the infamous Will Lyles affair. Even worse, Kelly was handed an 
> 18-month show-cause penalty -- basically in abstentia -- after he went to the 
> NFL.
> 
> Oregon was accused of paying $25,000 to Lyles, a shadowy 7-on-7 coach, in 
> exchange for his guiding players to the Ducks. Lyles admitted as much.
> 
> That's basically evidence of the same third-party influence Adidas was 
> accused of engaging in by the FBI by paying college basketball assistants to 
> influence players to sign with the shoe giant.
> 
> While that sort of college basketball culture has been entrenched for 
> decades, the NCAA is desperately trying to keep it from filtering into 
> football. The Lyles case is the biggest and one of the few public examples 
> that 7-on-7 is becoming the football version of AAU basketball. You know, 
> backroom deals being struck with prospects' handlers, cutting the high school 
> coach further and further out of the loop.
> 
> "I look back at it now, and [Oregon] paid for what they saw as my access and 
> influence with recruits," Lyles told Yahoo Sports earlier this decade. "The 
> service I provided went beyond what a scouting service should. … I made a 
> mistake, and I'm big enough of a man to admit I was wrong." 
> 
> The FBI's college basketball investigation has at least put the fear of God 
> into college athletics. The under-the-table shoe deals have reportedly slowed 
> considerably for the moment.
> 
> The fallout, though, awaits. At best, Kelly might be a test case to how 
> scared college administrators are of the FBI banging on their doors. At 
> worst, guys like Kelly -- no matter how talented -- might have problems 
> finding work as a new normal settles over compliance departments.
> 
> One FBS compliance director suggested any president considering hiring a 
> coach with a show-cause "go to bat for him. You gotta understand, no matter 
> what you hired him for, he may have restrictions."
> 
> Kelly's show-cause expired in late 2014. But the fact that he has such a 
> sanction on his record is troubling in this new normal.
> 
> The show-cause is considered the NCAA's scarlet letter. If a school hires a 
> coach saddled with such a label, NCAA penalties can follow the accused to his 
> new place of work.
> 
> How that looks for a sitting coach is a bit murkier. Indiana fired basketball 
> coach Kelvin Sampson after he was found to have made improper calls to 
> recruits for a second time. The NCAA rules have since been changed so that 
> sort of conduct wouldn't be a violation today.
> 
> Sampson currently coaches at Houston.
> 
> Florida Atlantic officials are looking into how such a show-cause penalty 
> might affect defensive coordinator Chris Kiffin's ability to do his job. Lane 
> KIffin's brother has been accused by both Ole Miss and the NCAA of violations 
> during his time with Rebels.
> 
> One source said Chris Kiffin has been "forthcoming" when questioned by FAU 
> officials.
> 
> Kelly would likely have to face similar questions if and when he got back 
> into college coaching.
> 
> In four NFL seasons with two teams, Kelly went 28-35. While a return to the 
> pros doesn't seem imminent, his college coaching rep remains burnished. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Woody
> 
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