Re: JakartaOne?
James Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JavaOne is around the corner. Do any Jakarta folks fancy a JavaOne get together in a bar somewhere? Maybe Jon's new bar? StudioZ would be cool... Too bad it's not _that_ close to the Moscone (probably 10 blocks?) and too bad that I won't be able to be there... :( Pier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JakartaOne?
Geir Magnusson wrote: - web services (I want to hear Sam talk about Axis :) At the moment, I don't plan to be at JavaOne. However, if there were sufficient items of interest (like a JakartaOne), I might change my mind. - Sam Ruby -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JakartaOne?
However, if there were sufficient items of interest Isn't two distinct spaces, one of which can serve alcohol enough? ;-) d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Who Do I Contact to add a new Jakarta project
See http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html for information about adding a project to Jakarta. Projects aren't allowed in without at least some form of established community around the project that will continue to support it once you lose interest. A good place to build this type of community would be over at SourceForge (www.sourceforge.net). Randy -Original Message- From: Doug Mortson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Who Do I Contact to add a new Jakarta project My name is Doug Mortson, an independent consultant with 15 years of industry experience. I have developed a software package called Synergy (described below) that I think would be a good edition to the Jakarta project. I am not looking for any compensation. I'm simply looking for a way to get the software out into the world. I would appreciate it if somebody could contact me as to what the appropriate steps would be, the appropriate contact info etc. Thanks. - Synergy is a free, 3-tier Java application that allows development team members to collaborate with each other during the development of a project. It includes the following: The ability to create, view, update and report on defects. The ability to create, view, update and run defect queries. The ability to create, view and update reports for search and queries The ability to create, view and update discussion forums Synergy can be accessed via an Internet Explorer browser, and requires an application server like IBM Websphere, BEA Weblogic or Tomcat. It also requires a database like DB2, with a JDBC compliant driver. The product can be downloaded from the following location : http://www.canadaaudiovideo.com/velotrex/Products.html Doug Mortson President VeloTrex 452 Britannia Ave, Bradford, Ontario L3Z 1A7 905-775-0390 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Who Do I Contact to add a new Jakarta project
Hi Doug, you are contacting the right people with this list. For the process, please see http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html. Could you tell us a little bit about the projects current community? How many users/developers are using/working on Synergy? I couldn't find any information on a project mailing list or similar at the link you have provided - or the USERS Guide. Stefan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
evaluation of Synergy was Re: Who Do I Contact to add a new Jakarta project
quickhanded evaluation: 0. Method: merely unzipped and read through the code and the provided information. Coined the phrase quickhanded because I like making up my own words if one doesn't come to mind. (but it describes this does it not) 1. I'm underwhelmed with the prospect of collaborative tools that require Internet Explorer. 2. Project makes heavy use of javascript... This is bad. 3. Project is implemented using JSP. JSP is yucky, but this does use Taglibs so that is good. 4. Sourcecode for said taglibs is not included in this distribution, nor is any kind of build etc etc. 5. The is fairly decently documented. I like that. 6. The documentation is in MS Word format... I hate that. (at least until POI::HDF is done along with the Cocoon generator and then I can just read it in mozilla as XHTML or PDF or something ;-) ). 7. I hate the orange and black theme...yuck. Halloween is over. 8. This is basically bugzilla or Scarab (which I have not evaluated but I'm sure is very nice) with things called forums which underwhelm me. (use mail lists instead) The prospect of having to install oracle or DB2 or even SQL-sorry-Server to store my bugs underwhelms me. Only DB2 has been tested (bah) and no bullet is there for PostgreSQL. This really underwhelms me. 5-10k minimum is a lot to spend for the kind of volume of data one gets from a bug database. 9. One thing this could use that might make it worth looking at (if it weren't implemented in sorry ol JSPs as opposed to XML or something that would let me change the yucky halloween theme), would be something like the Task Manager and Tracking fascilities from SourceForge. I like that. It wouldn't work for every project but it worked quite nicely for POI before we got to where little details took all of any given person's time. It would be better if tasks could be assigned to a person post-facto but *shrugs*. 10. I find it doubtful this will attract much of a community. This person would be far better of contributing to Bugzilla or Scarab or some existing project. This project doesn't appear to revolutionize bug tracking, etc and therefore Yet Another BugTracker implemented in yucky old JSPs is not likely to make people jump out of their chairs and want to help. (espeically without the sourcecode!). 11. In my humble and reserved opinion prospects are unlikely that this will appear on Jakarta at any point in the near future. (Not that I'm anybody to say, just figured I'd step up and give an evalutation) -Andy On 04 Mar 2002 16:10:39 0100 Stefan Bodewig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote. Hi Doug, you are contacting the right people with this list. For the process, please see http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html. Could you tell us a little bit about the projects current community? How many users/developers are using/working on Synergy? I couldn't find any information on a project mailing list or similar at the link you have provided - or the USERS Guide. Stefan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JakartaOne?
I'll be out there for JavaOne and I'd love to get together with other Jakarta folks. I haven't worked out my whole schedule yet, but I'm not sure how much time I'd have for an 'off-site convnention' (as cool as that sounds). Marc Saegesser -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 5:15 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: JakartaOne? On 3/4/02 1:25 AM, James Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JavaOne is around the corner. Do any Jakarta folks fancy a JavaOne get together in a bar somewhere? Maybe Jon's new bar? I was thinking about this earlier in feb, but wasn't sure we had the time... I wanted to call it 'OpenOne' (but 'JakartaOne' is nice...) and use a space like Jon's where we could have both a social gathering as well as some short technical talks on things that didn't make it into JavaOne (for example, if it didn't have anything to do with XML or web services). Here's what I had so far as a draft : I would like to get a sense of community interest for the following idea Proposal Hold an off-site convention during the week of JavaOne to provide a venue for topics that didn't make the cut for JavaOne as well as topics that did, of course. Examples include (imagination challenged right now...) o bastard J2EE technologies - template engines (could you guess I would suggest this ?) - publishing frameworks (Cocoon et al) - web app frameworks (Turbine, Maverick, Struts) - ? o mainstream technologies - web services (I want to hear Sam talk about Axis :) - XML-RPC - ? o community discussions - JSPA issues - ? o other stuff - how about JDD talking about Objective C - Gump sociology - Maven Rationale - There are a lot of interesting things in the world that Sun's marketing crew doesn't have space or interest for at JavaOne. Many of these things are in daily production use by people, and it would be nice to hear about them. Many developers will be in the area for this week, and if we could find a way to bring us together for both social interaction as well as learning about some of the topics we work on and are interested in, it seems like a win all around. Thoughts We have an in with an event space in San Francisco (hey, Jon!) and from what I understand, it has two distinct spaces, one of which can serve alcohol. So we can divide, cleanly, the social space and the technical space. Those in the social space can bring their own, I guess :) However, I think if we do this, we should pay for the space (unless studio.tv wants the publicity :), and there lies a conflict of interest problem, but I assume that if the rate is competitive, as I am sure it will be, we can all look the other way. I don't know if we have the time to pull it off - it would be nice to put something non-lame together. I think we shouldn't be aggressive about this - find a spot in the schedule so people aren't torn between J1 and this... -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting The bytecodes are language independent. - Sam Ruby -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Who Do I Contact to add a new Jakarta project
At 14:58 04/03/02, Doug Mortson wrote: My name is Doug Mortson, an independent consultant with 15 years of industry experience. I have developed a software package called Synergy (described below) that I think would be a good edition to the Jakarta project. Hello Doug, If you wish to make your product an open source project then no one is stopping you. Go for it. I would suggest uploading it to www.sourceforge.net and then doing some publicity for it - eg by getting a mention on freshmeat.net. You can even choose an Apache-like license on sourceforge Your tool definitely sounds interesting - I'll happily try it out and give it a review plugon my open source news website http://www.OWAL.co.uk/news//plug You should investigate your competitors (such as Scarab or Bugzilla) and ask yourself why people should use your software instead of theirs - and write this up. Apache is not like other open source projects - they don't just accept any open source project that is offered to them. The main thing they want to see before adopting another project is whether or not there is an existing team of developers maintaining it. I would suggest that you should concentrate on getting that team of developers and publicising your software, and then come back to Apache in six months or so. (I am not speaking for Apache and hold no official position in the Apache Software Foundation). Alex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Fwd: Re: JakartaOne
I would be happy to sponsor a hotel conference room, ie. FREE room, screen and projector on the 28th, say noon - end of day. (I have paid for an extra room) I am holding a paid Struts class AM on the same day. Let me know if/how I can assist more. Feel free to fill up the agenda, I could do a FREE 30 minute version of Struts if needed. Vic Original Message Subject: Re: JakartaOne? Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 06:15:05 -0500 From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 3/4/02 1:25 AM, James Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JavaOne is around the corner. Do any Jakarta folks fancy a JavaOne get together in a bar somewhere? Maybe Jon's new bar? I was thinking about this earlier in feb, but wasn't sure we had the time... I wanted to call it 'OpenOne' (but 'JakartaOne' is nice...) and use a space like Jon's where we could have both a social gathering as well as some short technical talks on things that didn't make it into JavaOne (for example, if it didn't have anything to do with XML or web services). Here's what I had so far as a draft : I would like to get a sense of community interest for the following idea Proposal Hold an off-site convention during the week of JavaOne to provide a venue for topics that didn't make the cut for JavaOne as well as topics that did, of course. Examples include (imagination challenged right now...) o bastard J2EE technologies - template engines (could you guess I would suggest this ?) - publishing frameworks (Cocoon et al) - web app frameworks (Turbine, Maverick, Struts) - ? o mainstream technologies - web services (I want to hear Sam talk about Axis :) - XML-RPC - ? o community discussions - JSPA issues - ? o other stuff - how about JDD talking about Objective C - Gump sociology - Maven Rationale - There are a lot of interesting things in the world that Sun's marketing crew doesn't have space or interest for at JavaOne. Many of these things are in daily production use by people, and it would be nice to hear about them. Many developers will be in the area for this week, and if we could find a way to bring us together for both social interaction as well as learning about some of the topics we work on and are interested in, it seems like a win all around. Thoughts We have an in with an event space in San Francisco (hey, Jon!) and from what I understand, it has two distinct spaces, one of which can serve alcohol. So we can divide, cleanly, the social space and the technical space. Those in the social space can bring their own, I guess :) However, I think if we do this, we should pay for the space (unless studio.tv wants the publicity :), and there lies a conflict of interest problem, but I assume that if the rate is competitive, as I am sure it will be, we can all look the other way. I don't know if we have the time to pull it off - it would be nice to put something non-lame together. I think we shouldn't be aggressive about this - find a spot in the schedule so people aren't torn between J1 and this... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Get together / SunOne / JakartaOne / The One that binds them all
Folks, As most of you propably know Covalents offices (www.covalent.net) are right on the corner - a block or so from the Moscone center. (Our current offices are less than a block - the new ones about a 1/2 square root of a block). Hereby an offer to use our 'big' meeting room for a day. Including whiteboards, etternet-hubs, wireless, telcon/phone, coffee, thee, softdrinks c for one day (take your pick; tentative suggestion: that Tuesday). If we have a solid count and an RSVP then we'll be happy to throw in a lunch served 'while you work; if so desired or beer pizza afterwards if that works out better. Just let me or Costin know before the middle of this month (say the 15th) if you need that room, for how long, and what day(s). We'll act as your hosts/contacts and confirm it on the list when all is set. Costin and Dw. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Get together / SunOne / JakartaOne / The One that binds themall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Including whiteboards, etternet-hubs, wireless, telcon/phone, coffee, thee, softdrinks c for one day (take your pick; tentative suggestion: that Tuesday). Plane tickets? :) Pier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)
I would love to host JakartaOne at Studio Z. I think it would be a lot of fun. For free. * However, I do need to know the day/time/length of the event as well as what other things will be needed (chairs/tables/whatever). Unless some people here volunteers, I can look into getting some great local techno/house/trance/ambient DJ's to spin music. We do have a DSL line into the space as well as ethernet drops literally every five feet (the space was a .bomb before we moved in) and I will have an open 802.11b network available in the next week or so (as soon as the Linksys is delivered). Bring your laptops. :-) Studio Z is not walking distance from Moscone, however, it is only about a 5 minute, $4-5 taxi ride. Not a big deal. * The only requirement is that the date/times not conflict with any other events that we are putting on there. The Covalent deal also sounds cool, but I doubt they have a large dance floor and a big sound system. :-) Just let me know the details... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Get together / SunOne / JakartaOne / The One that binds them
- Original Message - From: acoliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 12:59 PM Subject: Re: Re: Get together / SunOne / JakartaOne / The One that binds them On Mon, 04 Mar 2002 19:01:31 Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Including whiteboards, etternet-hubs, wireless, telcon/phone, coffee, thee, softdrinks c for one day (take your pick; tentative suggestion: that Tuesday). Plane tickets? :) oooh h me too me too! Throw in hotels and registration fees and I'm there dude! I don't even need registration fees. I'd much rather go to JakartaOne. :) - Morgan _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)
Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would love to host JakartaOne at Studio Z. I think it would be a lot of fun. For free. * However, I do need to know the day/time/length of the event as well as what other things will be needed (chairs/tables/whatever). Unless some people here volunteers, I can look into getting some great local techno/house/trance/ambient DJ's to spin music. We do have a DSL line into the space as well as ethernet drops literally every five feet (the space was a .bomb before we moved in) and I will have an open 802.11b network available in the next week or so (as soon as the Linksys is delivered). Bring your laptops. :-) Studio Z is not walking distance from Moscone, however, it is only about a 5 minute, $4-5 taxi ride. Not a big deal. * The only requirement is that the date/times not conflict with any other events that we are putting on there. The Covalent deal also sounds cool, but I doubt they have a large dance floor and a big sound system. :-) And I can vouch for him... The space is _fantastic_... Been there, seen that, wanna get back! :) Go JON! :) Pier (for free? Where's that nice scottish spirit of yours! :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Get together / SunOne / JakartaOne / The One that binds themall
On Mon, 4 Mar 2002, Pier Fumagalli wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Including whiteboards, etternet-hubs, wireless, telcon/phone, coffee, thee, softdrinks c for one day (take your pick; tentative suggestion: that Tuesday). Plane tickets? :) Grin :-) But seriously - the ASF is not that poor. If you can make a really string case to your local PMC for some exceptional ASF/Apache dire need, then things like travel assistance, telecon bridges, fedex shipping of legal papers, ordering of some IEEE document, etc, etc etc are within reach of the ASF/PMC if need be. Dw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)
On Mon, 4 Mar 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: I would love to host JakartaOne at Studio Z. I think it would be a lot of fun. ... The Covalent deal also sounds cool, but I doubt they have a large dance floor and a big sound system. :-) Yea right ! You liar :-) Sounds too cool to be true :-) Of course this should be an all night session. Dw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)
Pier (for free? Where's that nice scottish spirit of yours! :) Oi! we're listening ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Re: Get together / SunOne / JakartaOne / The One that binds them
Heck yeah! I'm also quite curious to see Jon's club. On Mon, 4 Mar 2002 13:17:54 -0600 Morgan Delagrange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote. - Original Message - From: acoliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 12:59 PM Subject: Re: Re: Get together / SunOne / JakartaOne / The One that binds them On Mon, 04 Mar 2002 19:01:31 Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Including whiteboards, etternet-hubs, wireless, telcon/phone, coffee, thee, softdrinks c for one day (take your pick; tentative suggestion: that Tuesday). Plane tickets? :) oooh h me too me too! Throw in hotels and registration fees and I'm there dude! I don't even need registration fees. I'd much rather go to JakartaOne. :) - Morgan _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Boycott JavaOne? was Re: Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)
If a group were zealously opensource, a group Could publically boycott the JavaOne, hold a countersession called JakartaOne at a bar or club and a certain club owner might make a killing in selling inebriation to geeks and make a very public spit in a certain corporations eye. Hypothetically of course. It would certainly make for interesting press.. Moot for me because of my limited wealth. -Andy On Mon, 04 Mar 2002 19:20:48 Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote. Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would love to host JakartaOne at Studio Z. I think it would be a lot of fun. For free. * However, I do need to know the day/time/length of the event as well as what other things will be needed (chairs/tables/whatever). Unless some people here volunteers, I can look into getting some great local techno/house/trance/ambient DJ's to spin music. We do have a DSL line into the space as well as ethernet drops literally every five feet (the space was a .bomb before we moved in) and I will have an open 802.11b network available in the next week or so (as soon as the Linksys is delivered). Bring your laptops. :-) Studio Z is not walking distance from Moscone, however, it is only about a 5 minute, $4-5 taxi ride. Not a big deal. * The only requirement is that the date/times not conflict with any other events that we are putting on there. The Covalent deal also sounds cool, but I doubt they have a large dance floor and a big sound system. :-) And I can vouch for him... The space is _fantastic_... Been there, seen that, wanna get back! :) Go JON! :) Pier (for free? Where's that nice scottish spirit of yours! :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boycott JavaOne? was Re: Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)
We could save travel money if we slept under the bar. - Original Message - From: acoliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 1:56 PM Subject: Boycott JavaOne? was Re: Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?) If a group were zealously opensource, a group Could publically boycott the JavaOne, hold a countersession called JakartaOne at a bar or club and a certain club owner might make a killing in selling inebriation to geeks and make a very public spit in a certain corporations eye. Hypothetically of course. It would certainly make for interesting press.. Moot for me because of my limited wealth. -Andy On Mon, 04 Mar 2002 19:20:48 Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote. Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would love to host JakartaOne at Studio Z. I think it would be a lot of fun. For free. * However, I do need to know the day/time/length of the event as well as what other things will be needed (chairs/tables/whatever). Unless some people here volunteers, I can look into getting some great local techno/house/trance/ambient DJ's to spin music. We do have a DSL line into the space as well as ethernet drops literally every five feet (the space was a .bomb before we moved in) and I will have an open 802.11b network available in the next week or so (as soon as the Linksys is delivered). Bring your laptops. :-) Studio Z is not walking distance from Moscone, however, it is only about a 5 minute, $4-5 taxi ride. Not a big deal. * The only requirement is that the date/times not conflict with any other events that we are putting on there. The Covalent deal also sounds cool, but I doubt they have a large dance floor and a big sound system. :-) And I can vouch for him... The space is _fantastic_... Been there, seen that, wanna get back! :) Go JON! :) Pier (for free? Where's that nice scottish spirit of yours! :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)
Ok, how does Tue, March 26th sound? If that works, then I need you guys to pick a time range... -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Get together / SunOne / JakartaOne / The One that binds them
A JakartaOne would be great. Is this something that any Jakarta fan would be able to attend? If it's on Monday or Tuesday there would be two Jakarta fans here that would love to attend.. -Erik - Original Message - From: acoliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 12:59 PM Subject: Re: Re: Get together / SunOne / JakartaOne / The One that binds them On Mon, 04 Mar 2002 19:01:31 Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Including whiteboards, etternet-hubs, wireless, telcon/phone, coffee, thee, softdrinks c for one day (take your pick; tentative suggestion: that Tuesday). Plane tickets? :) oooh h me too me too! Throw in hotels and registration fees and I'm there dude! I don't even need registration fees. I'd much rather go to JakartaOne. :) - Morgan _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)
On 3/4/02 3:19 PM, Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, how does Tue, March 26th sound? If that works, then I need you guys to pick a time range... If we do that, we can do something technical as well in the Covalent space? -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting The bytecodes are language independent. - Sam Ruby -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Get together / SunOne / JakartaOne / The One that binds them
On 3/4/02 3:19 PM, Erik Tennant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A JakartaOne would be great. Is this something that any Jakarta fan would be able to attend? If it's on Monday or Tuesday there would be two Jakarta fans here that would love to attend.. Open to anyone. -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Now what do we do? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)
on 3/4/02 12:38 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we do that, we can do something technical as well in the Covalent space? I don't think that would be a good idea because then you would be asking people to travel all over town. Just do the event in StudioZ...we have two spaces and the 'smaller' B space (3000+ sq feet) is perfect for technical sessions... Dirk offered to bring projectors and I can probably borrow one from BrianB as well... -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)
On 3/4/02 3:42 PM, Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/4/02 12:38 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we do that, we can do something technical as well in the Covalent space? I don't think that would be a good idea because then you would be asking people to travel all over town. Just do the event in StudioZ...we have two spaces and the 'smaller' B space (3000+ sq feet) is perfect for technical sessions... Dirk offered to bring projectors and I can probably borrow one from BrianB as well... That would be great then. Just didn't want to have to shout over the noise from the dance floor :) -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting You're going to end up getting pissed at your software anyway, so you might as well not pay for it. Try Open Source. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)
On Mon, 4 Mar 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On 3/4/02 3:19 PM, Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, how does Tue, March 26th sound? If that works, then I need you guys to pick a time range... If we do that, we can do something technical as well in the Covalent space? Fine with me - just let Costin and me know the day(s) and time(s). Dw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Boycott JavaOne? was Re: Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)
yeah! And maybe pay for it if we get like 10% of the profits of the beveraging of everyone who we get to come ;-) On Mon, 4 Mar 2002 14:05:20 -0600 Morgan Delagrange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote. We could save travel money if we slept under the bar. - Original Message - From: acoliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 1:56 PM Subject: Boycott JavaOne? was Re: Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?) If a group were zealously opensource, a group Could publically boycott the JavaOne, hold a countersession called JakartaOne at a bar or club and a certain club owner might make a killing in selling inebriation to geeks and make a very public spit in a certain corporations eye. Hypothetically of course. It would certainly make for interesting press.. Moot for me because of my limited wealth. -Andy On Mon, 04 Mar 2002 19:20:48 Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote. Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would love to host JakartaOne at Studio Z. I think it would be a lot of fun. For free. * However, I do need to know the day/time/length of the event as well as what other things will be needed (chairs/tables/whatever). Unless some people here volunteers, I can look into getting some great local techno/house/trance/ambient DJ's to spin music. We do have a DSL line into the space as well as ethernet drops literally every five feet (the space was a .bomb before we moved in) and I will have an open 802.11b network available in the next week or so (as soon as the Linksys is delivered). Bring your laptops. :-) Studio Z is not walking distance from Moscone, however, it is only about a 5 minute, $4-5 taxi ride. Not a big deal. * The only requirement is that the date/times not conflict with any other events that we are putting on there. The Covalent deal also sounds cool, but I doubt they have a large dance floor and a big sound system. :-) And I can vouch for him... The space is _fantastic_... Been there, seen that, wanna get back! :) Go JON! :) Pier (for free? Where's that nice scottish spirit of yours! :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JakartaOne?
This all sounds great - am looking forward to it. And to answer Jon's mail too, Tuesday sounds good. Apart from just meeting folks, having techie chats and drinking beer, it will be nice to do some cross-group fertilization. There's so much going on that its hard to keep track of it all. e.g. Maven is new to me ;-) James - Original Message - From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 3/4/02 1:25 AM, James Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JavaOne is around the corner. Do any Jakarta folks fancy a JavaOne get together in a bar somewhere? Maybe Jon's new bar? I was thinking about this earlier in feb, but wasn't sure we had the time... I wanted to call it 'OpenOne' (but 'JakartaOne' is nice...) and use a space like Jon's where we could have both a social gathering as well as some short technical talks on things that didn't make it into JavaOne (for example, if it didn't have anything to do with XML or web services). Here's what I had so far as a draft : I would like to get a sense of community interest for the following idea Proposal Hold an off-site convention during the week of JavaOne to provide a venue for topics that didn't make the cut for JavaOne as well as topics that did, of course. Examples include (imagination challenged right now...) o bastard J2EE technologies - template engines (could you guess I would suggest this ?) - publishing frameworks (Cocoon et al) - web app frameworks (Turbine, Maverick, Struts) - ? o mainstream technologies - web services (I want to hear Sam talk about Axis :) - XML-RPC - ? o community discussions - JSPA issues - ? o other stuff - how about JDD talking about Objective C - Gump sociology - Maven Rationale - There are a lot of interesting things in the world that Sun's marketing crew doesn't have space or interest for at JavaOne. Many of these things are in daily production use by people, and it would be nice to hear about them. Many developers will be in the area for this week, and if we could find a way to bring us together for both social interaction as well as learning about some of the topics we work on and are interested in, it seems like a win all around. Thoughts We have an in with an event space in San Francisco (hey, Jon!) and from what I understand, it has two distinct spaces, one of which can serve alcohol. So we can divide, cleanly, the social space and the technical space. Those in the social space can bring their own, I guess :) However, I think if we do this, we should pay for the space (unless studio.tv wants the publicity :), and there lies a conflict of interest problem, but I assume that if the rate is competitive, as I am sure it will be, we can all look the other way. I don't know if we have the time to pull it off - it would be nice to put something non-lame together. I think we shouldn't be aggressive about this - find a spot in the schedule so people aren't torn between J1 and this... -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting The bytecodes are language independent. - Sam Ruby -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: POI web update
jakarta.apache.org/ant and jakarta.apache.org/avalon added. Is jakarta.apache.org/commons in the list - if not can we add that too please? James _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: POI web update
man...followers ;-) On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 22:19, James Strachan wrote: jakarta.apache.org/ant and jakarta.apache.org/avalon added. Is jakarta.apache.org/commons in the list - if not can we add that too please? James _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com http://jakarta.apache.org - port of Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document format to java http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4487555.html - fix java generics! The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Ambassador Kosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JakartaOne?
I will be there and am interested. :-) James Strachan wrote: JavaOne is around the corner. Do any Jakarta folks fancy a JavaOne get together in a bar somewhere? Maybe Jon's new bar? James _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Glenn Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] | /* Spelin donut madder| MOREnet System Programming | * if iz ina coment. | Missouri Research and Education Network | */ | -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)
- Original Message - From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 12:46 PM Subject: Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?) On 3/4/02 3:42 PM, Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/4/02 12:38 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we do that, we can do something technical as well in the Covalent space? I don't think that would be a good idea because then you would be asking people to travel all over town. Just do the event in StudioZ...we have two spaces and the 'smaller' B space (3000+ sq feet) is perfect for technical sessions... Dirk offered to bring projectors and I can probably borrow one from BrianB as well... That would be great then. Just didn't want to have to shout over the noise from the dance floor :) My sentiments exactly! ;-) -- Martin Cooper -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting You're going to end up getting pissed at your software anyway, so you might as well not pay for it. Try Open Source. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Licensing issues of distributing catalina tomcat with GPL software
Hi! I would like my project to be as lawful and correct (in terms of licenses) as possible. In my project (http://osec.sf.net) I provide tomcat servlet container in single package with other jars, available for separate download. Is that correct? Maybe I should add more licensing notices on download (http://osec.sf.net/download.shtml) page? Also i have modified bootstrap.jar from tomcat 4.0.1 and made it available for download, under which license it should go and is it correct? My project is released GPL (or LGPL). Please provide your suggestions on such matter. --- Ruslan AKA Jango contact at ruslan dot org http://www.ruslan.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
