Re: [VOTE] Move POI to TLP
+1 Nick Burch schrieb: Hi All After lots of discussion within POI, and Jakarta in general, we think POI is ready to graduate to its own TLP. Thanks to the magic of ApacheCon, lots of people have been on-hand to help finalise the proposal for this, which is attached below. So, now is the time to vote on the proposal: [ ] +1 I support the proposal [ ] +0 I don't care [ ] -1 I'm opposed to the proposal because... Voting will close in one week. Cheers Nick WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to the continued implementation of the library for manipulating files in various business formats currently known as Apache POI for distribution at no charge to the public. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache POI Project, be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache POI Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to creation and maintenance of open-source software and documentation related to the POI library based on software licensed to the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, POI be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache POI Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache POI Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the POI PMC: * Nick Burch [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Amol S. Deshmukh [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Jason Height [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Marc Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Rainer Klute [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Yegor Kozlov [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Danny Muid [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Avik Sengupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Glen Stampoultzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Sean Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Nick Burch be appointed to the office of Vice President, POI, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache POI sub-project and encumbered upon the Apache Jakarta PMC are hereafter discharged. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ Best regards Rainer Klute Rainer Klute IT-Consulting Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Körner Grund 24 Phone: +49 231 5349423 D-44143 Dortmund Mobile: +49 172 2324824 OpenPGP fingerprint: E4E4386515EE0BED5C162FBB5343461584B5A42E signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [PROPOSAL] Create [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailinglist..
Daniel F. Savarese schrieb: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andrew C. Oliver writes: lists. (If you disagree look at the list archive for each over the last 6 months and see if you REALLY disagree in more than THEORY). At least for oro, some Linux distributions continue to ship it as part of their core packages. For example, Fedora Core 4, 5, and 6 all included it and 7 will include it as well. That's millions of real installations. It would be negligent to give the impression that Apache will no longer support the software should maintenance requests be made when there are in fact committers dedicated to doing the work. No, there haven't been any bug reports for oro for years and I don't know why it ships with Linux distributions, but it does and until it doesn't, it's not a dead project. There's no need for project-specific mailing lists anymore, but I'm -1 on putting up a closed page for any project with a user base that continues to require support and for which we are able to provide support. Users do need to be directed somewhere for support and I don't care if that's general@ or some other list as long as there's an avenue for providing that support. I strogly agree with Daniel. Even if there are no ongoing activities on a project, we should never, NEVER call it dead or give it any other attributation with a negative tone. Dormant also has negative implications. Mature would be fine. Best regards Rainer Klute Rainer Klute IT-Consulting GmbH Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Körner Grund 24 Telefon: +49 172 2324824 D-44143 Dortmund Telefax: +49 231 5349423 OpenPGP fingerprint: E4E4386515EE0BED5C162FBB5343461584B5A42E signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [VOTE] Remove POI svn restrictions.
Rainer Klute schrieb: Martin van den Bemt schrieb: [+1] Open up POI svn commit access. [-1] Don't open POI svn commit access, because... [0] I don't care. Having read all the contribution http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=endep=/gQPU.search=contributions on this thread, I revoke my vote quoted above and instead vote as follows: [+1] Open up POI svn commit access. Please read my vote not just as referring to a technical issue concerning commit access or not. My vote is a clear statement to * keep POI under the Jakarta hood, * stick to the ASF rules, and * do everything that is needed to straighten things out. I am a POI committer. Best regards Rainer Klute Rainer Klute IT-Consulting GmbH Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Körner Grund 24 Telefon: +49 172 2324824 D-44143 Dortmund Telefax: +49 231 5349423 OpenPGP fingerprint: E4E4386515EE0BED5C162FBB5343461584B5A42E signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Board Report December
Avik Sengupta schrieb: It feels like they are acting as a separate entity in Jakarta and even the ASF itself Let me put on record my severe objection to this statement. Yes, the wording is quite harsh. However, following the arguments in the POI thread, we indeed seem not to act as we should - be it deliberately or not. I must admit I didn't follow the Apache politics closely in the past for the lack of time, but it seems we have to invest some time to get back on track. I am sure Apache fellows will help us by pointing us into the right direction. Best regards Rainer Klute Rainer Klute IT-Consulting GmbH Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Körner Grund 24 Telefon: +49 172 2324824 D-44143 Dortmund Telefax: +49 231 5349423 OpenPGP fingerprint: E4E4386515EE0BED5C162FBB5343461584B5A42E signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [VOTE] Remove POI svn restrictions.
Martin van den Bemt schrieb: [+1] Open up POI svn commit access. [-1] Don't open POI svn commit access, because... [0] I don't care. Best regards Rainer Klute Rainer Klute IT-Consulting GmbH Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Körner Grund 24 Telefon: +49 172 2324824 D-44143 Dortmund Telefax: +49 231 5349423 OpenPGP fingerprint: E4E4386515EE0BED5C162FBB5343461584B5A42E signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [VOTE] Jakarta Sandbox
Am Freitag, den 07.04.2006, 19:17 -0400 schrieb Henri Yandell: Calling a vote to create a Jakarta Sandbox; which entails: * Move Jakarta Commons Sandbox to Jakarta Sandbox * Migrate Jakarta Taglibs Sandbox into Jakarta Sandbox * Create development mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Create wiki (and migrate wiki bits from j-c-s/j-t-s) * Jakarta Sandbox to initially use the Commons sandbox processes. [ ] +1 [X] -1 I vote -1 because I do not want my mailbox to be flooded with piles of mails about stuff I don't care about. I'd like to solicit only those pieces I am interested in. Best regards Rainer Klute Rainer Klute IT-Consulting GmbH Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Körner Grund 24 Telefon: +49 172 2324824 D-44143 Dortmund Telefax: +49 231 5349423 Public key fingerprint: E4E4386515EE0BED5C162FBB5343461584B5A42E signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Representing project inactivity on the site
Am Sonntag, den 05.03.2006, 15:03 + schrieb sebb: Might be worth distinguishing the Mature/Stable projects - e.g. ORO. [We're happily using that in JMeter] Yes, I second that. Inactive, dormant etc. sound negative while mature or stable leave a good impression. And it is indeed a big difference if a project isn't developed any further because it is all a pile of junk or because it is complete, optimized and couldn't be improved. Best regards Rainer Klute Rainer Klute IT-Consulting GmbH Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Körner Grund 24 Telefon: +49 172 2324824 D-44143 Dortmund Telefax: +49 231 5349423 Public key fingerprint: E4E4386515EE0BED5C162FBB5343461584B5A42E signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Representing project inactivity on the site
Am Sonntag, den 05.03.2006, 16:08 -0500 schrieb Henri Yandell: Inactive Subprojects ... * POI ... No! POI is not inactive at all. I just committed a major enhancement a few days ago. Best regards Rainer Klute Rainer Klute IT-Consulting GmbH Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Körner Grund 24 Telefon: +49 172 2324824 D-44143 Dortmund Telefax: +49 231 5349423 Public key fingerprint: E4E4386515EE0BED5C162FBB5343461584B5A42E signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [VOTE] Naming for new Jakarta subproject
[X]Apache Silk [ ]Apache Web Bricks [ ]Apache Web Commons (branding issue with Commons) [ ]Apache Web Components [ ]Apache Web Parts (conflict with Microsoft and an sf.net project) Best regards Rainer Klute Rainer Klute IT-Consulting GmbH Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Körner Grund 24 Telefon: +49 172 2324824 D-44143 Dortmund Telefax: +49 231 5349423 Public key fingerprint: E4E4386515EE0BED5C162FBB5343461584B5A42E European Parliament rejects software patent bill: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4655955.stm signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Exception handling Was: Future JDK features 2 items
Am Sa, 2004-11-20 um 08.31 schrieb Craig McClanahan:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 23:21:02 -0800, Daniel Rall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 13:35 -0400, Henri Yandell wrote:
...
How about just being able to do multiple Exceptions in one block?
try {
} catch(JMSException, RemoteException, SQLException e) {
}
or possibly even:
try {
} catch( (JMSException | RemoteException | SQLException) e) {
}
Something like this would be truly excellent. I'm so sick of having to
write 30 lines of exception handling code.
How about two lines, which you can already do today?
try {
...
} catch (Exception e) {
...
}
Craig,
I wouldn't have expected that answer from you. :-)
Usually you don't want to just catch all exceptions in a single block.
Instead you want to have clusters of exceptions like in the example
quoted above, and you want to handle each cluster of exceptions
differently.
And often the exception types you'd like to cluster don't have a
sensible inheritance relation other than that they subclass from
Exception.
Yes, we do need another catching syntax between the two extremes catch
everything in one and catch each exception type separately.
Best regards
Rainer Klute
Rainer Klute IT-Consulting GmbH
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Re: Survey: Motivation of Free/Open Source Software (F/OSS) Developers
On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 23:56, Marc Röttig wrote: Survey: Motivation of Free/Open Source Software (F/OSS) Developers We (Marc Röttig and Carl-Daniel Hailfinger) are currently working on a survey on the motivation of open source developers as part of a Computer Science and Society project at the CS department of the University of Tübingen. We invite every developer in the Free / Open Source Software community to help us with our survey by filling out a little web form to give us some hints on possible motivation-motifs of F/OSS-developers. You can find the survey-form at http://foss.ta-altensteig.de/ I just filled in that form but I missed an option to tick which is my main motivation to support open source: Since 20 years or so I take advantage of many software products I don't have to pay for. Over the years they were called public domain, free, open source or whatever. Actively participating in an open source project is my way of paying for or compensating some of the benefits I received myself. Best regards Rainer Klute Rainer Klute IT-Consulting GmbH Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Körner Grund 24 Telefon: +49 172 2324824 D-44143 Dortmund Telefax: +49 231 5349423 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why wiki logs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- site-cvs@ might be better
Am Do, den 08.07.2004 schrieb Martin Cooper um 1:09: I think you are arguing against yourself here. ;-) If the people who can make changes should be the same people doing the monitoring, which seems to be what you are saying, then it makes perfect sense for general@ to review wiki changes, since anyone on that list can make changes to the wiki. Similarly, if site2 karma and site-cvs were tied (but see below), it would make sense for site-cvs folks to be reviewing site2 changes. But not everyone who can make changes does so. And not everyone who subscribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] interested in this particular type of messages. If that doesn't stop it would be a very good reason a) that non-wiki messages get visually lost and b) for many subscribers to unsubscribe - at least for me. Best regards Rainer Klute Rainer Klute IT-Consulting GmbH Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Körner Grund 24 Telefon: +49 172 2324824 D-44143 Dortmund Telefax: +49 231 5349423 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Jakarta Wiki] Updated: JakartaPMC
Hi, the following is a good example why I am against notifications to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am Do, 2004-07-08 um 18.55 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Change Log: -- @@ -2,4 +2,4 @@ The role of the PMC is defined by the ASF By-Laws at section 6.3 - http://apache.org/foundation/bylaws.html -Each Project Management Committee shall be responsible for the active management of one or more projects identified by resolution of the Board of Directors which may include, without limitation, the creation or maintenance of open-source software for distribution to the public at no charge. Subject to the direction of the Board of Directors, the chairman of each Project Management Committee shall be primarily responsible for project(s) managed by such committee, and he or she shall establish rules and procedures for the day to day management of project(s) for which the committee is responsible. +Each Project Management Committee shall be responsible for the active management of one or more projects identified by resolution of the Board of Directors which may include, without limitation, the creation or maintenance of open-source software for distribution to the public at no charge. Subject to the direction of the Board of Directors, the chairman of each Project Management Committee shall be primarily responsible for project(s) managed by such committee, and he or she shall establish rules and procedures for the day to day management of project(s) for which the committe is responsible. Am I really supposed to wade through this and find out where the differences are? Best regards Rainer Klute Rainer Klute IT-Consulting GmbH Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Körner Grund 24 Telefon: +49 172 2324824 D-44143 Dortmund Telefax: +49 231 5349423 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Jakarta Wiki] Updated: JakartaPMC
Am Do, 2004-07-08 um 19.33 schrieb Craig McClanahan: Henri Yandell wrote: I wonder if we can configure wiki to make the comment mandatory :) Doubt it would help much ... like many people, I often play the game of what's the minimum amount of stuff needed to pass the validation on this field?. Most commonly, a simple . will do the trick :-). Isn't is that wiki distinguishes between major and minor changes? It would be nice if notices would be sent only for major changes. Best regards Rainer Klute Rainer Klute IT-Consulting GmbH Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Körner Grund 24 Telefon: +49 172 2324824 D-44143 Dortmund Telefax: +49 231 5349423 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Just in case you're curious
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:23:16 -0500 Harish Krishnaswamy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the record I'm in favour of transacting business HERE. But I would like to respond by saying that as I understand it it is the source and the development of it which is open, not the organisation. As a committer I would like to know what's going on with the origanization. I can understand certain private conversations that involve legal implications, but anything else, I think, should be out in the open to do justice to the committers. It seems like there is some talk going on about the Jakarta banner in private that I have no clue about. I would appreciate the knowledge sharing in such metters. That's just as I see it. Discussions should definetly take place HERE. Best regards Rainer Klute Rainer Klute IT-Consulting GmbH Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Körner Grund 24 Telefon: +49 172 2324824 D-44143 Dortmund Telefax: +49 231 5349423 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: Jakarta Newsletter
Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jakarta Newsletter informs on what it is and at a quick glance I have a great idea what to expect from it. Jakarta Jist, or some other monkier while it may be viewed as catchier it may not strike an immediate flame of recognition, especially those who do not have the relevant experience with Western or Anglo-derivative cultures. Thats the best feedback I can give on that. Lets paint the bikeshed yellow, with the word bike shed on the side of it, so that people will see it and understand its function. Exactly! Best regards Rainer Klute Rainer Klute IT-Consulting GmbH Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Körner Grund 24 Telefon: +49 172 2324824 D-44143 Dortmund Telefax: +49 231 5349423 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [New Subproject Proposal] ObjectBridge
I would like to propose ObjectRelationalBridge (http://objectbridge.sourceforge.net/) as a top level subproject of Jakarta. +1 Best regards Rainer Klute Rainer Klute IT-Consulting GmbH i. Gr. Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Körner Grund 24 Telefon: +49 172 2324824 D-44143 Dortmund Telefax: +49 231 5349423 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
