Re: Fw: Subscribing a new Project into Jakarta
hello Hen, On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the developers/Mentors involved, and my project is not intended to be only a FTP Server, but an Application Server that delegates all requests to an existing user defined FTPAction. Maybe we could fit together both projects, but still, i must ask this to the FtpServer developers (i don´t know who they are). I didn´t find this information on the site. Just to throw an idea out there, how about using the Servlet API? ie) defining the equivalent of javax.servlet.ftp etc etc? This is exactly what jftp4i does. The only difference is that the Servlets are called FTPActions. I'm not actually using the javax.servlet.Servlet specification, but the idea is basically the same. Maybe we can improve in this direction, but as you know, the FTP protocol is a little more complex in terms of commands, than the HTTP protocol. So, we must define where to merge a doPut, or doGet, etc. into a FTP request/response in the framework. I think that the best way is to use the idea, not specifically the Servlet API, but we are open to discussion. tks, []s, João The FtpServer project went inactive for a while, but is now active again. As far as I know, the 3 or so committers are primarily on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: Subscribing a new Project into Jakarta
Hi Felipe (Olá),
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projects, but still, i must ask this to the FtpServer developers (i
don´t
know who they are).
Hmm, there is a Maven-generated link that says Who We Are :-)
I didn´t find this information on the site.
Here is the link I mentioned:
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ftpserver/team-list.html
(of course, you must change the {at} for @ and {d0t} for . :-)
tks., i will do that ...
:-- Felipe
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Re: Fw: Subscribing a new Project into Jakarta
Felipe Leme wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
projects, but still, i must ask this to the FtpServer developers (i
don´t know who they are).
Hmm, there is a Maven-generated link that says Who We Are :-)
I didn´t find this information on the site.
Here is the link I mentioned:
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ftpserver/team-list.html
(of course, you must change the {at} for @ and {d0t} for . :-)
Even better - mailing list
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ftpserver/mail-lists.html
Vadim
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Re: Fw: Subscribing a new Project into Jakarta
On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 14:36 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, my name is João, i'm a Brazillian Java developer. hi João In this email i will describe the general proposal for my project, the JFTP4I (Java FTP for Integration). My intentions are basically to put my project inside the Jakarta/Apache umbrella. the way these things are done now is through the incubator http://incubator.apache.org/. please take some time to read the documentation on the site. i don't want to dampen your enthusiasm but i'd like to offer a realistic assessment of some of the obstacles you may find upon your way... jakarta's been self consciously shrinking over the last few years (it's just too big and too complex) with a lot of old sub-projects graduating to lop level status. it's more difficult now to persuade people that new sub-projects should be accepted. (of course, this doesn't mean that JFTP4I couldn't aim for top level or for a sub-project of another project) there's quite a deal of ceremony associated with incubation now: it requires time, dedication and effort to succeed (up and beyond creating a successful open source project). the aim of incubation is to try to help the new project to learn apache ways and adopt systems which we believe lead to healthy long term projects but the process is still evolution and there are some rough edges left still... Yeah, i saw. I'm just a little confuse about how to find the right Champion to help me with the right sponsor :-P. Anyway tks for the guidelines. João For that i give you a detailed description of my project. Project Description: The JFTP4I is a new idea for the concept of using FTP for integration purposes. Here in Brasil (and i think very much in the rest of the world), all the legacy systems are basically using FTP as a way of integrating different platforms running under TCP/IP. i wouldn't have thought associated dynamic applications with ftp but now you pointed it out, it can see why a project like this makes sense :) snip The project has already started (exists), and is hosted in the sourceforge.net. I have 3 friends helping me develop the solution. The FTP engine, trace, and Log are already done, and we are now working in the transaction and delegation parts for the requests. You can found a alpha version to be download in the following link: http://sourceforge.net/projects/jftp4i Obs.: I don´t now if you guys can actually download the code, but if this is important, and you could not download the source, please contact me and i will be glad to send to you. PS.: This is not another FTP Server, this is actually a framework that uses a FTP engine to dinamically generate content. BTW http://producingoss.com/ is a good read for people starting open source projects... all the best and good luck with jftp4i - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: Subscribing a new Project into Jakarta
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: jakarta's been self consciously shrinking over the last few years (it's just too big and too complex) with a lot of old sub-projects graduating to lop level status. it's more difficult now to persuade people that new sub-projects should be accepted. (of course, this doesn't mean that JFTP4I couldn't aim for top level or for a sub-project of another project) Effectively it's turning into a component container, a larger variant of Commons. All of our server-like parts have moved to top level, and it sounds like JFTP4I would (despite not being just an FTP server) still be very much a server-like project. So definitely a TLP example. Yeah, i'm just i little confuse of how to initiate the process. Who to talk, what email to send, and so on. João Hen (Slide is on its way to TLP, the last real server-like subproject) (Yep, there are frameworks still here too, Tapestry/Turbine, though other frameworks have moved up) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: Subscribing a new Project into Jakarta
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: jakarta's been self consciously shrinking over the last few years (it's just too big and too complex) with a lot of old sub-projects graduating to lop level status. it's more difficult now to persuade people that new sub-projects should be accepted. (of course, this doesn't mean that JFTP4I couldn't aim for top level or for a sub-project of another project) Effectively it's turning into a component container, a larger variant of Commons. All of our server-like parts have moved to top level, and it sounds like JFTP4I would (despite not being just an FTP server) still be very much a server-like project. So definitely a TLP example. Yeah, i'm just i little confuse of how to initiate the process. Who to talk, what email to send, and so on. Have you seen FtpServer in incubation [1]? I would think there is significant overlap between projects, so may be instead of creating new project, you could join efforts with existing one? Vadim [1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ftpserver/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: Subscribing a new Project into Jakarta
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: jakarta's been self consciously shrinking over the last few years (it's just too big and too complex) with a lot of old sub-projects graduating to lop level status. it's more difficult now to persuade people that new sub-projects should be accepted. (of course, this doesn't mean that JFTP4I couldn't aim for top level or for a sub-project of another project) Effectively it's turning into a component container, a larger variant of Commons. All of our server-like parts have moved to top level, and it sounds like JFTP4I would (despite not being just an FTP server) still be very much a server-like project. So definitely a TLP example. Yeah, i'm just i little confuse of how to initiate the process. Who to talk, what email to send, and so on. Have you seen FtpServer in incubation [1]? I would think there is significant overlap between projects, so may be instead of creating new project, you could join efforts with existing one? Yes i saw. This could be a good idea, but i don´t have any clue of who are the developers/Mentors involved, and my project is not intended to be only a FTP Server, but an Application Server that delegates all requests to an existing user defined FTPAction. Maybe we could fit together both projects, but still, i must ask this to the FtpServer developers (i don´t know who they are). I didn´t find this information on the site. Tks anyway :-). João Vadim [1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ftpserver/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: Subscribing a new Project into Jakarta
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
projects, but still, i must ask this to the FtpServer developers (i don´t
know who they are).
Hmm, there is a Maven-generated link that says Who We Are :-)
I didn´t find this information on the site.
Here is the link I mentioned:
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ftpserver/team-list.html
(of course, you must change the {at} for @ and {d0t} for . :-)
-- Felipe
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Re: Fw: Subscribing a new Project into Jakarta
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the developers/Mentors involved, and my project is not intended to be only a FTP Server, but an Application Server that delegates all requests to an existing user defined FTPAction. Maybe we could fit together both projects, but still, i must ask this to the FtpServer developers (i don?t know who they are). I didn?t find this information on the site. Just to throw an idea out there, how about using the Servlet API? ie) defining the equivalent of javax.servlet.ftp etc etc? The FtpServer project went inactive for a while, but is now active again. As far as I know, the 3 or so committers are primarily on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: Subscribing a new Project into Jakarta
On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 14:36 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, my name is João, i'm a Brazillian Java developer. hi João In this email i will describe the general proposal for my project, the JFTP4I (Java FTP for Integration). My intentions are basically to put my project inside the Jakarta/Apache umbrella. the way these things are done now is through the incubator http://incubator.apache.org/. please take some time to read the documentation on the site. i don't want to dampen your enthusiasm but i'd like to offer a realistic assessment of some of the obstacles you may find upon your way... jakarta's been self consciously shrinking over the last few years (it's just too big and too complex) with a lot of old sub-projects graduating to lop level status. it's more difficult now to persuade people that new sub-projects should be accepted. (of course, this doesn't mean that JFTP4I couldn't aim for top level or for a sub-project of another project) there's quite a deal of ceremony associated with incubation now: it requires time, dedication and effort to succeed (up and beyond creating a successful open source project). the aim of incubation is to try to help the new project to learn apache ways and adopt systems which we believe lead to healthy long term projects but the process is still evolution and there are some rough edges left still... For that i give you a detailed description of my project. Project Description: The JFTP4I is a new idea for the concept of using FTP for integration purposes. Here in Brasil (and i think very much in the rest of the world), all the legacy systems are basically using FTP as a way of integrating different platforms running under TCP/IP. i wouldn't have thought associated dynamic applications with ftp but now you pointed it out, it can see why a project like this makes sense :) snip The project has already started (exists), and is hosted in the sourceforge.net. I have 3 friends helping me develop the solution. The FTP engine, trace, and Log are already done, and we are now working in the transaction and delegation parts for the requests. You can found a alpha version to be download in the following link: http://sourceforge.net/projects/jftp4i Obs.: I don´t now if you guys can actually download the code, but if this is important, and you could not download the source, please contact me and i will be glad to send to you. PS.: This is not another FTP Server, this is actually a framework that uses a FTP engine to dinamically generate content. BTW http://producingoss.com/ is a good read for people starting open source projects... all the best and good luck with jftp4i - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: Subscribing a new Project into Jakarta
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: jakarta's been self consciously shrinking over the last few years (it's just too big and too complex) with a lot of old sub-projects graduating to lop level status. it's more difficult now to persuade people that new sub-projects should be accepted. (of course, this doesn't mean that JFTP4I couldn't aim for top level or for a sub-project of another project) Effectively it's turning into a component container, a larger variant of Commons. All of our server-like parts have moved to top level, and it sounds like JFTP4I would (despite not being just an FTP server) still be very much a server-like project. So definitely a TLP example. Hen (Slide is on its way to TLP, the last real server-like subproject) (Yep, there are frameworks still here too, Tapestry/Turbine, though other frameworks have moved up) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[site] future of new project page
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html contains new (sub-)project creation guidelines. i think that this is now outdated and should be removed. however, the content is pretty good and would be (i think) suitable (in amended form) for the incubator website. i think that the best approach would be for a volunteer to approach incubator to see if they are interested in the content, remove the page and redirect to the incubator. opinions? - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [site] future of new project page
+1 At the very least, record this opinion on the wiki siteinfo page so we can get around to it eventually :) Hen On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html contains new (sub-)project creation guidelines. i think that this is now outdated and should be removed. however, the content is pretty good and would be (i think) suitable (in amended form) for the incubator website. i think that the best approach would be for a volunteer to approach incubator to see if they are interested in the content, remove the page and redirect to the incubator. opinions? - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Project Proposal
Chad, I am an IBM employee who has developed a new type of framework Please first read: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html also read http://incubator.apache.org/ You might consider approching the incubator project (subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I would certainly suggest it as the best next step for you. You might consider contributing this to jakarta-commons. Alternatively you might also consider approaching one of the existing Jakarta sub-projects if you believe that there might be benefit in creating a joint project combining the two things, or even of simply donating and joining an existing sub-project. Jakarta has a high bar for entry of new sub-projects, higher still since we have been encouraged by the ASF board to flatten the structure of Apache. This doesn't mean that we are unable or unwilling to consider new sub-projects but it does mean that we might have to work hard to justify it. One final word of advice, Apache is not sourceforge, and whilst we do welcome new projects it will require you to convince people of its worth and you would do well to find someone who can champion your cause and do some evangelising on your behalf. d. *** The information in this e-mail is confidential and for use by the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient (or responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient) please notify us immediately on 0141 306 2050 and delete the message from your computer. You may not copy or forward it or use or disclose its contents to any other person. As Internet communications are capable of data corruption Student Loans Company Limited does not accept any responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. For this reason it may be inappropriate to rely on advice or opinions contained in an e-mail without obtaining written confirmation of it. Neither Student Loans Company Limited or the sender accepts any liability or responsibility for viruses as it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any). Opinions and views expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender and may not reflect the opinions and views of The Student Loans Company Limited. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Project Proposal
Hi Danny, After reading some replies and further review, I am going to attempt to get this project hosted on IBM's developerworks Open Source site first. Once we can then establish a community of interest, then at that later time it may be better to evaluate this project as a potential member of Jakarta. When the project does become available, I will inform everyone on this list. Thanks, Chad Meadows, Software Engineer Research Triangle Park T/L 526-2894 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Danny Angus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Danny Angus [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/08/2004 04:11 AM Please respond to Jakarta General List To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: New Project Proposal Chad, I am an IBM employee who has developed a new type of framework Please first read: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html also read http://incubator.apache.org/ You might consider approching the incubator project (subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I would certainly suggest it as the best next step for you. You might consider contributing this to jakarta-commons. Alternatively you might also consider approaching one of the existing Jakarta sub-projects if you believe that there might be benefit in creating a joint project combining the two things, or even of simply donating and joining an existing sub-project. Jakarta has a high bar for entry of new sub-projects, higher still since we have been encouraged by the ASF board to flatten the structure of Apache. This doesn't mean that we are unable or unwilling to consider new sub-projects but it does mean that we might have to work hard to justify it. One final word of advice, Apache is not sourceforge, and whilst we do welcome new projects it will require you to convince people of its worth and you would do well to find someone who can champion your cause and do some evangelising on your behalf. d. *** The information in this e-mail is confidential and for use by the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient (or responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient) please notify us immediately on 0141 306 2050 and delete the message from your computer. You may not copy or forward it or use or disclose its contents to any other person. As Internet communications are capable of data corruption Student Loans Company Limited does not accept any responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. For this reason it may be inappropriate to rely on advice or opinions contained in an e-mail without obtaining written confirmation of it. Neither Student Loans Company Limited or the sender accepts any liability or responsibility for viruses as it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any). Opinions and views expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender and may not reflect the opinions and views of The Student Loans Company Limi! ted. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Project Proposal
On Jan 8, 2004, at 1:12 PM, Chad Meadows wrote: Hi Danny, After reading some replies and further review, I am going to attempt to get this project hosted on IBM's developerworks Open Source site first. Once we can then establish a community of interest, then at that later time it may be better to evaluate this project as a potential member of Jakarta. When the project does become available, I will inform everyone on this list. That's a great approach, IMO. And as for the velocity bits, please come over to velocity-land and discuss with us. If appropriate for general use, we should talk. geir Thanks, Chad Meadows, Software Engineer Research Triangle Park T/L 526-2894 [EMAIL PROTECTED] image.tiffDanny Angus [EMAIL PROTECTED] image.tiff image.tiff Danny Angus [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/08/2004 04:11 AM Please respond to Jakarta General List image.tiff To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: New Project Proposal Chad, I am an IBM employee who has developed a new type of framework Please first read:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html also readhttp://incubator.apache.org/ You might consider approching the incubator project (subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I would certainly suggest it as the best next step for you. You might consider contributing this to jakarta-commons. Alternatively you might also consider approaching one of the existing Jakarta sub-projects if you believe that there might be benefit in creating a joint project combining the two things, or even of simply donating and joining an existing sub-project. Jakarta has a high bar for entry of new sub-projects, higher still since we have been encouraged by the ASF board to flatten the structure of Apache. This doesn't mean that we are unable or unwilling to consider new sub-projects but it does mean that we might have to work hard to justify it. One final word of advice, Apache is not sourceforge, and whilst we do welcome new projects it will require you to convince people of its worth and you would do well to find someone who can champion your cause and do some evangelising on your behalf. d. *** The information in this e-mail is confidential and for use by the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient (or responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient) please notify us immediately on 0141 306 2050 and delete the message from your computer. You may not copy or forward it or use or disclose its contents to any other person. As Internet communications are capable of data corruption Student Loans Company Limited does not accept any responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. For this reason it may be inappropriate to rely on advice or opinions contained in an e-mail without obtaining written confirmation of it. Neither Student Loans Company Limited or the sender accepts any liability or responsibility for viruses as it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any). Opinions and views expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender and may not reflect the opinions and views of The Student Loans Company Limi! ted. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. *** *** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New Project Proposal
I am an IBM employee who has developed a new type of framework which incorporates Velocity as well as adds some enhancements to the core package. We are considering Open Sourcing this framework and are attempting to determine the appropriate host. This framework exists currently on top of Struts and Velocity and provides a new method for managing the presentation layer using xml rules. In the future, the plan is for the template engine to be pluggable, as there is some interest for it to operate with freemarker as well. I am interested from a high level, is jakarta-apache interested in hosting this project. I would want to be the technical lead in control of project leadership and accepting contributions. At present I only have myself as a committer, but could probably find a couple of others for that role if required. Enhancements to velocity include: 1. Performance enhancements. 2. Added interface to allow filters to be applied to templates. 3. Added interface to allow templates to be cached after rendering. 4. New Resource Loader. These core enhancements could be potential candidates to be incorporated into the main Velocity stream. They may need some refinement to be accepted. This contribution contains more than just velocity specific enhancements or additions. It is a framework in itself, the framework's function could technically be incorporated on top of other template engines or even JSP's (hopefully nobody would want that) . Therefore, I don't think it fits into velocity-tools. It contains some subclasses to Struts servlet as well which allows this framework to be loaded as a plugin to Struts. Note, it is not dependant on Struts, but there is extra functionality offered through the use of Struts. I think this fits nicely into Jakarta, but probably as its own project, not as a subcomponent of velocity or struts. The codebase is not that large, it derives an enormous amount of functionality from leveraging a large amount of Open Source. However, its concept and direction is unique from its XML rules based presentation layer. I have been calling this framework MVC-X myself ;-) for an extended MVC which has a dedicated controller just for the view layer which in this case is the xml rules. High Level features: XML Rules based Presentation. This is quite extensive in features which are the core of the framework technology. Briefly, allows layouts ( somewhat like tiles ) to be defined in xml as well as applying dynamic condition to how the layouts are performed. It basically allows logic to be removed from the templates and the java code and exist in xml. The portion of the framework is controller and template engine agnostic. Chained template filtering Session state aware template caching JSP include support. Technically allows any servlet output to be included in a template. Struts subclass enhancements include: High volume overload support Hot configuration update Enhanced Plugin Model CRON timer plugin Properties Plugin Universal Resouce Loader A list of Open Source packages which are currently used by the framework: Struts ( Apache License ) Velocity (Apache License ) Jakarta Commons (Apache License) Jakarta ORO (Apache License) LOG4j (Apache License) XMLRPC (Apache License) Jakarta Regexp (Apache License) Xerces (Apache License) Quartz ( LGPL ) - CRON library HTMLParser (LGPL) - utility for parsing/filtering html Cvslib ( Sun Public License) - optional component which allows framework to publish CVS as a website. Castor ( planned in future release ) AspectJ ( planned in future release ) Freemarker ( planned in future release ) Thanks, Chad Meadows, Software Engineer Research Triangle Park T/L 526-2894 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New project proposal -- Html4Java
Hello, I would like to start a new project at Jakarta called HTML4Java. The result of the new project will create a set of controls based on servlets and JSP pages - similar to Swing/AWT. HTML4Java is a server-side design-oriented page layout written and rendered in Java. Each HTML command is a class that is rendered, eliminating PrintWriter's and raw html code in your servlet. The rendering process uses css and has built in features to deal with multiple browsers. I'm currently the sole developer and not in a Jakarta subproject or other open source initiative. I do believe that this would make an excellent project that the community would embrace. Can I get approval to start this project at Jakarta? Thank-you, Mike - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New project proposal -- Html4Java
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Re: New project proposal -- Html4Java
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Mike Goudie wrote: None of those is what I had in mind. I was thinking of something more like this: http://www.sapdesignguild.org/resources/htmlb_guidance/index.html --1. Introduction --* What is HTMLB? That sounds almost exactly like JSF to me (except that JSF doesn't prevent you from using JavaScript to manipulate controls), so I must be missing something fundamental. Could you elaborate, please? -- Martin Cooper Original Message --- Also there's JSF, which also seems to be leaning into attempts to make web creation like gui creation: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/ Hen On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Danny Angus wrote: Sounds interesting, but have you seen ECS? http://jakarta.apache.org/ecs/index.html And for something more weighty in the realm of component architecture for web-pages there's Tapestry http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry *** The information in this e-mail is confidential and for use by the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient (or responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient) please notify us immediately on 0141 306 2050 and delete the message from your computer. You may not copy or forward it or use or disclose its contents to any other person. As Internet communications are capable of data corruption Student Loans Company Limited does not accept any responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. For this reason it may be inappropriate to rely on advice or opinions contained in an e-mail without obtaining written confirmation of it. Neither Student Loans Company Limited or the sender accepts any liability or responsibility for viruses as it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any). Opinions and views expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender and may not reflect the opinions and views of The Student Loans Company Lim ited. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New Project
Hi, we are five italian programmers and we have finished some days ago Puff, a http cache proxy written in java that have some interesting features like a spider that prefetch the web links and an option to convert all images to black and white one to have a speeder connection for the client. This software is free licensed (we haven't already choosed what type but this is free however!!) and we think to jakarta subprojects. If it is possible tell us how we have to send it, the documentation and what ever you want. Best regards Paparoni Federico
Re: New Project
on 2003/2/25 10:07 AM, Federico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, we are five italian programmers and we have finished some days ago Puff, a http cache proxy written in java that have some interesting features like a spider that prefetch the web links and an option to convert all images to black and white one to have a speeder connection for the client. This software is free licensed (we haven't already choosed what type but this is free however!!) and we think to jakarta subprojects. If it is possible tell us how we have to send it, the documentation and what ever you want. Best regards Paparoni Federico Fyi, http://Noodle.tigris.org/ would serve as a great framework to build such a proxy. -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment 314 11th Street @ Folsom /\ San Francisco http://studioz.tv/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Fyi, http://Noodle.tigris.org/ would serve as a great framework to build such a proxy. -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment 314 11th Street @ Folsom /\ San Francisco http://studioz.tv/ Maybe you don't understand me. We have already finished the proxy's heart and we have written our classes almost like Noodle ever if we didn't know it. Federico - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Federico wrote: Fyi, http://Noodle.tigris.org/ would serve as a great framework to build such a proxy. -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment 314 11th Street @ Folsom /\ San Francisco http://studioz.tv/ Maybe you don't understand me. We have already finished the proxy's heart I cannot compute finished + software together. software is like a live creature, more so a project. You are really starting, now that you are planning to have true users and go out to the real world ;-) Regards, Santiago - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Federico wrote: Hi, we are five italian programmers and we have finished some days ago Puff, a http cache proxy written in java that have some interesting features like a spider that prefetch the web links and an option to convert all images to black and white one to have a speeder connection for the client. This software is free licensed (we haven't already choosed what type but this is free however!!) and we think to jakarta subprojects. If it is possible tell us how we have to send it, the documentation and what ever you want. Best regards Paparoni Federico http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html -- Nick Chalko Show me the code. Centipede Ant + autodownloadable build plugins + needed jars autodownload. http://krysalis.org/centipede - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From the website of Jakarta: The proposal for a new subproject must submitted to the Jakarta General mailing list, where the PMC conducts business. All discussion regarding the proposal will occur the General list, including the final vote. Uhm?! Loop?! Federico - Original Message - From: Nick Chalko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 9:17 PM Subject: Re: New Project Federico wrote: Hi, we are five italian programmers and we have finished some days ago Puff, a http cache proxy written in java that have some interesting features like a spider that prefetch the web links and an option to convert all images to black and white one to have a speeder connection for the client. This software is free licensed (we haven't already choosed what type but this is free however!!) and we think to jakarta subprojects. If it is possible tell us how we have to send it, the documentation and what ever you want. Best regards Paparoni Federico http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html -- Nick Chalko Show me the code. Centipede Ant + autodownloadable build plugins + needed jars autodownload. http://krysalis.org/centipede - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote: Federico wrote: Maybe you don't understand me. We have already finished the proxy's heart I cannot compute finished + software together. s/finished/of release\/alpha\/beta quality/ Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Federico wrote: I cannot compute finished + software together. software is like a live creature, more so a project. You are really starting, now that you are planning to have true users and go out to the real world ;-) Regards, Santiago Sorry for my english but probably in my language I can tell you better about this project, that is already in the world not real but academic because this started from a project for an exam. I was thinking that just programming is not at all the difficult part of a software project. I have written thousands of lines of code that where never used, because the project died by lack of funding and I was not able to carry the code to other projects, because the company wanted for me to pay the whole cost of something that was essentially useles, as it was much cheaper to rewrite it. This, by the way, was the revelation, that convinced me to the Open Source Ways, a bit in the same way of the printer driver story that I've heard RMS tell. A project requires: * A Vision * A need fulfilled (the itch) * Users that will like the way how it works (for one reason or the other, be it simplicity of design, economy of resources, stability, cost, or even features ;-) + Management to keep it evolving and avoid it falling into pieces in the contrast between the needs of the users and the needs of the design * Some brand that makes it easy for people to remember it exists * Documentation * A evolving developer team to fix bugs, document and re-structure code on a continuous base * ... and a bit of code You seem to have the itch ( a caching proxy in java), and a name Puff (I like it a lot). You seem to be a group. This is what you have. Do you have the rest of the things? Is it competitive in design, ideas, simpliticy, etc? You should look for similar projects and study their status and design. For instance, a proxy need a http client implementation (as well as an http server implementation). You could look at how tomcat implements its server-to-client connections, and look at http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/httpclient/index.html for an http client. When you have a clear idea of where your project stands (better, lacking, a good part but..., cleaner design, etc.) you can go back to these communities, or here, and argue for your position. If the people in httpclient or in other projects (tomcat looks too big as a starting point, but...) gets convinced that your code is good, then you have a starting point. If they don't, and you still think you have something good, keep on trying. Now, I got serious. Sorry for the previous joke Regards, Santiago P.S.) If you have problems with the english to express you, but you believe that the project is worth it, you can try sending mail to some Italian commiters or members (look at the people.html page in Apache) in Italian, or even to me (I'm Spanish, but I think I'll understand it). Federico - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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on 2003/2/25 11:44 AM, Federico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you don't understand me. We have already finished the proxy's heart and we have written our classes almost like Noodle ever if we didn't know it. Federico Too bad you wasted your time then. =) -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Incubator New Project Proposal: basicPortal.sf.net
- Hello? - Go away, the Wizard of Oz is doing Maven. - But I need a heart? Is mostly everyone indifferent to basicPortal? basicPortal would kind of uses open source NullSoft to create setup.exe, and not Maven. (it that an angle to get some comments :)). How about is General or Incubator the right place to bug? Any feeling/opinions? http://www.mail-archive.com/mvc-programmers%40basebeans.net/msg1.html .V I would like to propose a project for the incubator, I also cc general list. Background Scope: basicPortal.sf.net, is a portal vertical applications suite, or a portal web application containing a set of frequently used vertical business applications that you install from setup.exe. It use Jakarta many sub projects, its main verticals are CMS and Community building. It is not a framework, but actual solutions to business problems/needs. Its based on Struts tiles, but includes Tomcat, a PostgreSQL (which has a liberal license) DB, in which XML content is stored as a varchar filed in a db, and it is rendered via JSTL x:transform tag. One of its goals it to be able to run J:Meter right out of the box to find out how many transactions it can support. Also, it is being ported to Commons SQL for DAO. The goal of its UI is something like my.netscape.com where you can move verticals around (some verticals like carigslist.com) so an admin can assign a suite for a role (based on JDBC Realms). The problem so far has been to write sample apps for a Jakarta project, for example Master Detail processing of users in Struts, or JDBC Relms in Tomcat. This suite provides a place where a project can be plugged in. It is similar to JetSpeed, but based on Struts and JSTL. It is similar to Forest and Caccon, one day jakarta web site could have its XML moved to something like basicPortal and have it be a dynamic content with RSS feeds, and approval, etc. I believe JetSpeed can get better with some competition; Jakarta has a tradition of similar systems, such as Velocity, Turbine and Struts. I think it should be in incubator and become a Jakarta project one day as a show case of what a business user can do with Jakarta. Most projects now are framework type for developers. Community and Developers: It could use a better community and more involvement. Its developers list https://sourceforge.net/project/memberlist.php?group_id=55539 but I did most of the development. I have several commercial sites that use it, and baseBeans.com is running it. I have mailing list, that is not specific to basicPortal at http://www.basebeans.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/mvc-programmers It is as popular or more than OJB/Tapestry, the latest 2 projects. BasicPortal will work more on building a community before and after acceptance, as is required by the Subproject proposal page. (understand what it means to build a community). One developer is using Nullsoft Open source setup to make a setup. It is already packaged as org.apache.xyz Alignment: It also does try to demonstrate some of the good practices designs in developing an application that uses Tomcat, Struts, JSTL, SQL Commons, DBCP, J:meter, and any other Jakarta project, that could be used. I realy think some projects could build a demo app, since Tomcat and working PostgreSQL will be provided to basicPortal. Its an application that was developed using KISS, everything in it is simple code that is very teachable, and each pieces is simple. Some of the features: -New content can be approved (in a multi row update, so you can check a lot of content at once) before it is available. -Wiki style, non approved comments on any page (from a comments db table) -RSS based feed (digester based-into content table) -Tomcat based declarative users security of JDBC realms (a users table, each role has its module actions) -Modules for Contact Management (user table), Task tracking, E-mail web client, Store, Auction, Bloeger. -It allows for people to upload an image into a DB (as BLOB) and display it from a JSP (via a servlet link) Like I said it is simple, combined systems to make a useful application. For example, anyone can write a user maintenance web module, basicPortal uses it for JDBC Realms, so in Struts in order to long in you need to be a user. CMS: users enter an XML record in a XML field in DB. Simple. But since it is DB, it can be flagged a approved, and rendered to another HTML filed in same table. Ad sub system uses GIF images stored in a DB. When user is browsing certain content, we can find out ads with similar metatags and display it. (as well as measuer click troughs via count++;) The entire application is tile (Sturts tiles action, vs Struts action) based, so that users in the Relm of admin, can move tiles around similar to my.netscape.com to change the look and feel for the group. Other modules are even simpler. The foundation of application is Struts Tiles Action (MVC), so as above,
Re: Incubator New Project Proposal: basicPortal.sf.net
Personally I stopped reading when it said .exe because it meant won't run on any of your servers.. I didn't think this feedback was worth providing, but there you have it. Hope it helps. Vic Cekvenich wrote: - Hello? - Go away, the Wizard of Oz is doing Maven. - But I need a heart? Is mostly everyone indifferent to basicPortal? basicPortal would kind of uses open source NullSoft to create setup.exe, and not Maven. (it that an angle to get some comments :)). How about is General or Incubator the right place to bug? Any feeling/opinions? http://www.mail-archive.com/mvc-programmers%40basebeans.net/msg1.html .V I would like to propose a project for the incubator, I also cc general list. Background Scope: basicPortal.sf.net, is a portal vertical applications suite, or a portal web application containing a set of frequently used vertical business applications that you install from setup.exe. It use Jakarta many sub projects, its main verticals are CMS and Community building. It is not a framework, but actual solutions to business problems/needs. Its based on Struts tiles, but includes Tomcat, a PostgreSQL (which has a liberal license) DB, in which XML content is stored as a varchar filed in a db, and it is rendered via JSTL x:transform tag. One of its goals it to be able to run J:Meter right out of the box to find out how many transactions it can support. Also, it is being ported to Commons SQL for DAO. The goal of its UI is something like my.netscape.com where you can move verticals around (some verticals like carigslist.com) so an admin can assign a suite for a role (based on JDBC Realms). The problem so far has been to write sample apps for a Jakarta project, for example Master Detail processing of users in Struts, or JDBC Relms in Tomcat. This suite provides a place where a project can be plugged in. It is similar to JetSpeed, but based on Struts and JSTL. It is similar to Forest and Caccon, one day jakarta web site could have its XML moved to something like basicPortal and have it be a dynamic content with RSS feeds, and approval, etc. I believe JetSpeed can get better with some competition; Jakarta has a tradition of similar systems, such as Velocity, Turbine and Struts. I think it should be in incubator and become a Jakarta project one day as a show case of what a business user can do with Jakarta. Most projects now are framework type for developers. Community and Developers: It could use a better community and more involvement. Its developers list https://sourceforge.net/project/memberlist.php?group_id=55539 but I did most of the development. I have several commercial sites that use it, and baseBeans.com is running it. I have mailing list, that is not specific to basicPortal at http://www.basebeans.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/mvc-programmers It is as popular or more than OJB/Tapestry, the latest 2 projects. BasicPortal will work more on building a community before and after acceptance, as is required by the Subproject proposal page. (understand what it means to build a community). One developer is using Nullsoft Open source setup to make a setup. It is already packaged as org.apache.xyz Alignment: It also does try to demonstrate some of the good practices designs in developing an application that uses Tomcat, Struts, JSTL, SQL Commons, DBCP, J:meter, and any other Jakarta project, that could be used. I realy think some projects could build a demo app, since Tomcat and working PostgreSQL will be provided to basicPortal. Its an application that was developed using KISS, everything in it is simple code that is very teachable, and each pieces is simple. Some of the features: -New content can be approved (in a multi row update, so you can check a lot of content at once) before it is available. -Wiki style, non approved comments on any page (from a comments db table) -RSS based feed (digester based-into content table) -Tomcat based declarative users security of JDBC realms (a users table, each role has its module actions) -Modules for Contact Management (user table), Task tracking, E-mail web client, Store, Auction, Bloeger. -It allows for people to upload an image into a DB (as BLOB) and display it from a JSP (via a servlet link) Like I said it is simple, combined systems to make a useful application. For example, anyone can write a user maintenance web module, basicPortal uses it for JDBC Realms, so in Struts in order to long in you need to be a user. CMS: users enter an XML record in a XML field in DB. Simple. But since it is DB, it can be flagged a approved, and rendered to another HTML filed in same table. Ad sub system uses GIF images stored in a DB. When user is browsing certain content, we can find out ads with similar metatags and display it. (as well as measuer click troughs via count++;) The entire application is tile (Sturts tiles action, vs Struts action) based, so that users in the
Re: Incubator New Project Proposal: basicPortal.sf.net
Andrew, can you or someone help put this in as a project proposal? Incubator? Wiki? Here? I followed all the rules to propose a proejct, like OJB and Tapestry did. Of course it runs Linux, it's only Tomcat. But Windoze users do not know how to edit server.xml to setup JDBC relms, etc. This thing out of the box setups an XML based portal based on Struts, JSTL, etc. It uses Jakarta projects, somewhat similar to JetSpeed. Some of the comiters on it do not even do not even own Windoze, but Linux people do not need setup.exe, they could just use a WAR and execute SQL scripts! But yes, project is dual platform. .V Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Personally I stopped reading when it said .exe because it meant won't run on any of your servers.. I didn't think this feedback was worth providing, but there you have it. Hope it helps. Vic Cekvenich wrote: - Hello? - Go away, the Wizard of Oz is doing Maven. - But I need a heart? Is mostly everyone indifferent to basicPortal? basicPortal would kind of uses open source NullSoft to create setup.exe, and not Maven. (it that an angle to get some comments :)). How about is General or Incubator the right place to bug? Any feeling/opinions? http://www.mail-archive.com/mvc-programmers%40basebeans.net/msg1.html .V I would like to propose a project for the incubator, I also cc general list. Background Scope: basicPortal.sf.net, is a portal vertical applications suite, or a portal web application containing a set of frequently used vertical business applications that you install from setup.exe. It use Jakarta many sub projects, its main verticals are CMS and Community building. It is not a framework, but actual solutions to business problems/needs. Its based on Struts tiles, but includes Tomcat, a PostgreSQL (which has a liberal license) DB, in which XML content is stored as a varchar filed in a db, and it is rendered via JSTL x:transform tag. One of its goals it to be able to run J:Meter right out of the box to find out how many transactions it can support. Also, it is being ported to Commons SQL for DAO. The goal of its UI is something like my.netscape.com where you can move verticals around (some verticals like carigslist.com) so an admin can assign a suite for a role (based on JDBC Realms). The problem so far has been to write sample apps for a Jakarta project, for example Master Detail processing of users in Struts, or JDBC Relms in Tomcat. This suite provides a place where a project can be plugged in. It is similar to JetSpeed, but based on Struts and JSTL. It is similar to Forest and Caccon, one day jakarta web site could have its XML moved to something like basicPortal and have it be a dynamic content with RSS feeds, and approval, etc. I believe JetSpeed can get better with some competition; Jakarta has a tradition of similar systems, such as Velocity, Turbine and Struts. I think it should be in incubator and become a Jakarta project one day as a show case of what a business user can do with Jakarta. Most projects now are framework type for developers. Community and Developers: It could use a better community and more involvement. Its developers list https://sourceforge.net/project/memberlist.php?group_id=55539 but I did most of the development. I have several commercial sites that use it, and baseBeans.com is running it. I have mailing list, that is not specific to basicPortal at http://www.basebeans.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/mvc-programmers It is as popular or more than OJB/Tapestry, the latest 2 projects. BasicPortal will work more on building a community before and after acceptance, as is required by the Subproject proposal page. (understand what it means to build a community). One developer is using Nullsoft Open source setup to make a setup. It is already packaged as org.apache.xyz Alignment: It also does try to demonstrate some of the good practices designs in developing an application that uses Tomcat, Struts, JSTL, SQL Commons, DBCP, J:meter, and any other Jakarta project, that could be used. I realy think some projects could build a demo app, since Tomcat and working PostgreSQL will be provided to basicPortal. Its an application that was developed using KISS, everything in it is simple code that is very teachable, and each pieces is simple. Some of the features: -New content can be approved (in a multi row update, so you can check a lot of content at once) before it is available. -Wiki style, non approved comments on any page (from a comments db table) -RSS based feed (digester based-into content table) -Tomcat based declarative users security of JDBC realms (a users table, each role has its module actions) -Modules for Contact Management (user table), Task tracking, E-mail web client, Store, Auction, Bloeger. -It allows for people to upload an image into a DB (as BLOB) and display it from a JSP (via a servlet link) Like I said it is simple, combined
Incubator New Project Proposal: basicPortal.sf.net
I would like to propose a project for the incubator, I also cc general list. Background Scope: basicPortal.sf.net, is a portal vertical applications suite, or a portal web application containing a set of frequently used vertical business applications that you install from setup.exe. It use Jakarta many sub projects, its main verticals are CMS and Community building. It is not a framework, but actual solutions to business problems/needs. Its based on Struts tiles, but includes Tomcat, a PostgreSQL (which has a liberal license) DB, in which XML content is stored as a varchar filed in a db, and it is rendered via JSTL x:transform tag. One of its goals it to be able to run J:Meter right out of the box to find out how many transactions it can support. Also, it is being ported to Commons SQL for DAO. The goal of its UI is something like my.netscape.com where you can move verticals around (some verticals like carigslist.com) so an admin can assign a suite for a role (based on JDBC Realms). The problem so far has been to write sample apps for a Jakarta project, for example Master Detail processing of users in Struts, or JDBC Relms in Tomcat. This suite provides a place where a project can be plugged in. It is similar to JetSpeed, but based on Struts and JSTL. It is similar to Forest and Caccon, one day jakarta web site could have its XML moved to something like basicPortal and have it be a dynamic content with RSS feeds, and approval, etc. I believe JetSpeed can get better with some competition; Jakarta has a tradition of similar systems, such as Velocity, Turbine and Struts. I think it should be in incubator and become a Jakarta project one day as a show case of what a business user can do with Jakarta. Most projects now are framework type for developers. Community and Developers: It could use a better community and more involvement. Its developers list https://sourceforge.net/project/memberlist.php?group_id=55539 but I did most of the development. I have several commercial sites that use it, and baseBeans.com is running it. I have mailing list, that is not specific to basicPortal at http://www.basebeans.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/mvc-programmers It is as popular or more than OJB/Tapestry, the latest 2 projects. BasicPortal will work more on building a community before and after acceptance, as is required by the Subproject proposal page. (understand what it means to build a community). One developer is using Nullsoft Open source setup to make a setup. It is already packaged as org.apache.xyz Alignment: It also does try to demonstrate some of the good practices designs in developing an application that uses Tomcat, Struts, JSTL, SQL Commons, DBCP, J:meter, and any other Jakarta project, that could be used. I realy think some projects could build a demo app, since Tomcat and working PostgreSQL will be provided to basicPortal. Its an application that was developed using KISS, everything in it is simple code that is very teachable, and each pieces is simple. Some of the features: - New content can be approved (in a multi row update, so you can check a lot of content at once) before it is available. - Wiki style, non approved comments on any page (from a comments db table) - RSS based feed (digester based-into content table) - Tomcat based declarative users security of JDBC realms (a users table, each role has its module actions) - Modules for Contact Management (user table), Task tracking, E-mail web client, Store, Auction, Bloeger. - It allows for people to upload an image into a DB (as BLOB) and display it from a JSP (via a servlet link) Like I said it is simple, combined systems to make a useful application. For example, anyone can write a user maintenance web module, basicPortal uses it for JDBC Realms, so in Struts in order to long in you need to be a user. CMS: users enter an XML record in a XML field in DB. Simple. But since it is DB, it can be flagged a approved, and rendered to another HTML filed in same table. Ad sub system uses GIF images stored in a DB. When user is browsing certain content, we can find out ads with similar metatags and display it. (as well as measuer click troughs via count++;) The entire application is tile (Sturts tiles action, vs Struts action) based, so that users in the Relm of admin, can move tiles around similar to my.netscape.com to change the look and feel for the group. Other modules are even simpler. The foundation of application is Struts Tiles Action (MVC), so as above, it can have several different presentations. It can also have several different DB layers, such as RowSet or SQL-Commons. Other can be added by implementing a simple DAO interface. (we did not do OJB or JDO yet since they tend to be more heavyweight). The system comes with PostGreSQL DB and can alternatively be installed via Setup.exe, since it is an application useful for business (as opposed to a framework like Struts that is
Database Persistence Layer new project - Azeitona
Hello folks, a friend my just created a persistence layer to use with databases and he´d like to add this library to Apache, are there people that woul like to improve this library, remember that he based on Design Partner. I known that this kind of products is very expensive and is very difficult to find a open source Persistence Layer. With best wishes, Edson Alves Pereira -- /// Better well done than well said. --//-- To follow the path: look to the master, follow the master, walk with the master, see through the master, become the master. Modern Zen poem /// __ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Database Persistence Layer new project - Azeitona
Hi Edson, Jakarta already has a persistence layer to use with databases, called Torque: http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/torque/index.html While I personally haven't used it yet, and it's arguably not based on Design Partner, it seems to be fine enogh. If your friend wants to propose her project anyway, please direct her to http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html where she will learn the requisites. Un saludo, Alex Fernández -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviado el: viernes 7 de diciembre de 2001 17:05 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: Database Persistence Layer new project - Azeitona Hello folks, a friend my just created a persistence layer to use with databases and he´d like to add this library to Apache, are there people that woul like to improve this library, remember that he based on Design Partner. I known that this kind of products is very expensive and is very difficult to find a open source Persistence Layer. With best wishes, Edson Alves Pereira -- /// Better well done than well said. --//-- To follow the path: look to the master, follow the master, walk with the master, see through the master, become the master. Modern Zen poem /// __ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines
decline in FooProduct's intended market works for me. 8^) +1 Chuck On Friday, October 19, 2001, at 08:50 AM, Pier Fumagalli wrote: Jon Stevens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is my proposal for new project creation guidelines. I have not linked it into the main site until I can get 3 +1 votes from the PMC and 0 -1 votes from the PMC. http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html I will accept any patches against this document and/or direct commits from PMC members. :-) +1... Just remove the word ASP between decline and market in the little boxed text :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines
On Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:48, Sam Ruby wrote: Jon Stevens wrote: Sam, I have integrated the changes that you suggested, please take a look. http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html +1 on the proposal +1 from me too though I guess I would prefer a less agresive tone ;) - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cheers, Pete Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. - Locke - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines
- Original Message - From: Jon Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:41 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines Sam, I have integrated the changes that you suggested, please take a look. http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html -jon +1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines
Jon Stevens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is my proposal for new project creation guidelines. I have not linked it into the main site until I can get 3 +1 votes from the PMC and 0 -1 votes from the PMC. http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html I will accept any patches against this document and/or direct commits from PMC members. :-) +1... Just remove the word ASP between decline and market in the little boxed text :) Pier - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines
on 10/19/01 5:50 AM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1... Just remove the word ASP between decline and market in the little boxed text :) Pier Why? That was a direct quote. That isn't M$ ASP, it is 'application service provider'. -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines
Jon Stevens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 10/19/01 5:50 AM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1... Just remove the word ASP between decline and market in the little boxed text :) Pier Why? That was a direct quote. That isn't M$ ASP, it is 'application service provider'. I know, but reading it without the full introduction to the quote makes it appear as we're talking about M$-ASP, and makes us look bad (not that I care much about M$ anyway, but...). Another option is expanding it and replacing it with application service provider in full... Pier - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines
+1 daniel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines
Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know, but reading it without the full introduction to the quote makes it appear as we're talking about M$-ASP, and makes us look bad (not that I care much about M$ anyway, but...). Another option is expanding it and replacing it with application service provider in full... Expanding it is a good idea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines
On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 09:53, Daniel Rall wrote: Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know, but reading it without the full introduction to the quote makes it appear as we're talking about M$-ASP, and makes us look bad (not that I care much about M$ anyway, but...). Another option is expanding it and replacing it with application service provider in full... Expanding it is a good idea. But the question remains - why do we need to even mention ASP. Can't we just say the FooMarket for the FooProduct has dried up ? ;) -- Cheers, Pete --- For every complex problem there is a solution that is simple, neat and wrong --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines
You should remove the last paragraph, otherwise +1. At 21:31 17.10.2001 -0700, you wrote: Here is my proposal for new project creation guidelines. I have not linked it into the main site until I can get 3 +1 votes from the PMC and 0 -1 votes from the PMC. http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html I will accept any patches against this document and/or direct commits from PMC members. :-) -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ceki Gülcü - http://qos.ch Link of the day: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A40473-2001Oct10.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines
Jon Stevens wrote: Here is my proposal for new project creation guidelines. I have not linked it into the main site until I can get 3 +1 votes from the PMC and 0 -1 votes from the PMC. http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html I will accept any patches against this document and/or direct commits from PMC members. Comment on the proposal itself: the Project Management Committee bylaws (http://jakarta.apache.org/site/management.html) clearly state that Creation of a new subproject requires approval by 3/4 vote of the PMC. Furthermore, the still unratified proposal guidelines (http://jakarta.apache.org/site/proposal.html) state that It is preferred but not required that at least one PMC member be a Committer to a new subproject. We need to reconcile these two proposals. Finally, the proposal also suggests that the vote that you are proposing should also require a supermajority. Ted: can you take a quick glance at the proposal that you have been sheperding to ensure that it is current and up to date in your opinion, and (if so) put it up for a vote? - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines
Sam, I have integrated the changes that you suggested, please take a look. http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines
Jon Stevens wrote: Sam, I have integrated the changes that you suggested, please take a look. http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html +1 on the proposal - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines
Here is my proposal for new project creation guidelines. I have not linked it into the main site until I can get 3 +1 votes from the PMC and 0 -1 votes from the PMC. http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html I will accept any patches against this document and/or direct commits from PMC members. :-) -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
