Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering

[Remy Maucherat]

> Hi,
> Pictures of the gathering is ready at:
> http://www.netpotlet.com/party/jakarta/JakartaNight2002.html
> 
> I'm so sorry I couldn't understand all of your names.
> Please tell me, and I'll fix this page.
> 
> These pictures' size is 0.15 times of the original.
> To get original images, click each one.

Nice pictures :)

Remy


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RE: JakartaOne: The Gathering

[GOMEZ Henri]

Nice to have a real picture of some of jakarta members.
Remy/Costin/Craig/Jon/Jason/James/Geir :)

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>From: Yoko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 12:38 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering
>
>
>Hi,
>Pictures of the gathering is ready at:
>http://www.netpotlet.com/party/jakarta/JakartaNight2002.html
>
>I'm so sorry I couldn't understand all of your names.
>Please tell me, and I'll fix this page.
>
>These pictures' size is 0.15 times of the original.
>To get original images, click each one.
>
>From: Jakarta General Newsgroup (@Basebeans.com) 
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>Subject: Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering
>Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 08:25:01 -0800
>
>> Subject: Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering
>> From: Vic Cekvenich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  ===
>> I enjoyed meeting everyone, it was great fun. Thanks. Vic
>
>I enjoyed, too. Thank you !
>
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Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering

[Yoko]

Hi,
Pictures of the gathering is ready at:
http://www.netpotlet.com/party/jakarta/JakartaNight2002.html

I'm so sorry I couldn't understand all of your names.
Please tell me, and I'll fix this page.

These pictures' size is 0.15 times of the original.
To get original images, click each one.

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Subject: Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 08:25:01 -0800

> Subject: Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering
> From: Vic Cekvenich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  ===
> I enjoyed meeting everyone, it was great fun. Thanks. Vic

I enjoyed, too. Thank you !

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Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering

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Subject: Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering
From: Vic Cekvenich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 ===
I enjoyed meeting everyone, it was great fun. Thanks. Vic

Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:

> On 3/25/02 10:40 AM, "Jakarta General Newsgroup   (@Basebeans.com)"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Subject: Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering
>>From: Vic Cekvenich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>===
>>Can anyone come or do you have to be a Jakarta Comitter?
>>
> 
> Anyone and everyone.
> 
> 


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Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering

[Geir Magnusson Jr.]

On 3/25/02 10:40 AM, "Jakarta General Newsgroup   (@Basebeans.com)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Subject: Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering
> From: Vic Cekvenich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ===
> Can anyone come or do you have to be a Jakarta Comitter?

Anyone and everyone.

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Subject: Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering
From: Vic Cekvenich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 ===
Can anyone come or do you have to be a Jakarta Comitter?
Vic

Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:

> On 3/25/02 1:30 AM, "Yoko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hello, JakartaOne attandee.
>>
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: RE: JakartaOne: The Gathering
>>Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:44:39 -0800 (PST)
>>
>>
>>>The bar is not big. And any developer arriving early is bound to play with
>>>the Lego bricks provided at the bar. Assume that any one who has build a
>>>three tier or higher construct using bricks of more than one colour (of
>>>which at least one is red) is an apache develeoper.
>>>
>>I'll be there on Monday night.
>>And I'll be JakartaOne on Tuesday night, too.
>>
> 
> There will be no JakartaOne on Tuesday night.  The meeting, which is
> informal, will be on Monday.
> 
> geir
> 
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RE: JakartaOne: The Gathering

[Marc Saegesser]

If there are legos around, I might not do much else but play with them!

One of the cool things about having kids is that you get to play with their
toys without looking like a complete fool.  :-)


Marc Saegesser 

> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 12:47 AM
> To: Jakarta General List
> Subject: Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering
> 
> 
> I've printed a scaled-up copy of The Jakarta Project logo, 
> and am hoping to
> tape it up, or make it otherwise visible, somewhere in the 
> bar, so that we
> can find each other.
> 
> Alternatively, Dirk's Lego project idea might help, although 
> it's been a
> very long time since I played with Lego... :-)
> 
> --
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> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Marc Saegesser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 4:32 PM
> Subject: RE: JakartaOne: The Gathering
> 
> 
> > I'll be there.
> >
> > I'm in SF now, for the conference.  Any idea how to identify Jakarta
> group?
> > I've only met a couple in person before.
> >
> >
> > Marc Saegesser
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 1:36 AM
> > > To: Jakarta General List
> > > Subject: Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering
> > >
> > >
> > > OK, we need to make a decision, pronto! Let's meet at "21st
> > > Amendment" (563
> > > 2nd Street) at 7:30pm on Monday. We can take the rest from there.
> > >
> > > Martin.
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:24 AM
> > > Subject: Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > Jon, can you suggest a place that isn't too far away from
> > > Moscone that
> > > has a
> > > > > large bar (with real beer...) we can gather in, with a
> > > reasonably-priced
> > > > > restaurant that we can then have dinner in?  Cuisine can
> > > be anything,
> > > but a
> > > > > 'normal' american upscale bar menu might be the most
> > > appealing to the
> > > > > majority.
> > > > >
> > > > > How about Monday or Wed night?  How about the Thirsty
> > > Bear?  I don't
> > > know
> > > > > anything about the place - isn't that where the Jboss
> > > people are holding
> > > > > court?
> > > >
> > > > Soapy Bear is horrid- they clean their tubes badly, use too
> > > much detergent
> > > > when they do, and as a result you get old yeast and other
> > > crap. Always a
> > > > headache the next day. I'd also be against the Irish place
> > > - too noisy to
> > > > talk :-) Other near by ones which are good to OK IMHO, have
> > > good beer and
> > > > good food are and are quiet enough to talk:
> > > >
> > > > Rickenbacher bar; 2nd and mission
> > > > 21st Amendment; 2nd 2 blocks down.
> > > >
> > > > Dw
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering

[Yoko]

From: Jon Scott Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 23:33:51 -0800

> on 3/24/02 11:21 PM, "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > There will be no JakartaOne on Tuesday night.  The meeting, which is
> > informal, will be on Monday.
> 
> Yoko is referring to another event that is on Tuesday night...if you come
> Monday night (or email me directly), I will tell you about Tuesday
> night...:-)

I'm so sorry I've taken the mistake.
I'll attend Micro JakartaOne on Monday night.

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Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering

[Jon Scott Stevens]

on 3/24/02 11:21 PM, "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>> And I'll be JakartaOne on Tuesday night, too.
> 
> There will be no JakartaOne on Tuesday night.  The meeting, which is
> informal, will be on Monday.

Yoko is referring to another event that is on Tuesday night...if you come
Monday night (or email me directly), I will tell you about Tuesday
night...:-)

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Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering

[Geir Magnusson Jr.]

On 3/25/02 1:30 AM, "Yoko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello, JakartaOne attandee.
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: JakartaOne: The Gathering
> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:44:39 -0800 (PST)
> 
>> The bar is not big. And any developer arriving early is bound to play with
>> the Lego bricks provided at the bar. Assume that any one who has build a
>> three tier or higher construct using bricks of more than one colour (of
>> which at least one is red) is an apache develeoper.
> 
> I'll be there on Monday night.
> And I'll be JakartaOne on Tuesday night, too.

There will be no JakartaOne on Tuesday night.  The meeting, which is
informal, will be on Monday.

geir

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Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering

[Martin Cooper]

I've printed a scaled-up copy of The Jakarta Project logo, and am hoping to
tape it up, or make it otherwise visible, somewhere in the bar, so that we
can find each other.

Alternatively, Dirk's Lego project idea might help, although it's been a
very long time since I played with Lego... :-)

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- Original Message -
From: "Marc Saegesser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 4:32 PM
Subject: RE: JakartaOne: The Gathering


> I'll be there.
>
> I'm in SF now, for the conference.  Any idea how to identify Jakarta
group?
> I've only met a couple in person before.
>
>
> Marc Saegesser
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 1:36 AM
> > To: Jakarta General List
> > Subject: Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering
> >
> >
> > OK, we need to make a decision, pronto! Let's meet at "21st
> > Amendment" (563
> > 2nd Street) at 7:30pm on Monday. We can take the rest from there.
> >
> > Martin.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:24 AM
> > Subject: Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > Jon, can you suggest a place that isn't too far away from
> > Moscone that
> > has a
> > > > large bar (with real beer...) we can gather in, with a
> > reasonably-priced
> > > > restaurant that we can then have dinner in?  Cuisine can
> > be anything,
> > but a
> > > > 'normal' american upscale bar menu might be the most
> > appealing to the
> > > > majority.
> > > >
> > > > How about Monday or Wed night?  How about the Thirsty
> > Bear?  I don't
> > know
> > > > anything about the place - isn't that where the Jboss
> > people are holding
> > > > court?
> > >
> > > Soapy Bear is horrid- they clean their tubes badly, use too
> > much detergent
> > > when they do, and as a result you get old yeast and other
> > crap. Always a
> > > headache the next day. I'd also be against the Irish place
> > - too noisy to
> > > talk :-) Other near by ones which are good to OK IMHO, have
> > good beer and
> > > good food are and are quiet enough to talk:
> > >
> > > Rickenbacher bar; 2nd and mission
> > > 21st Amendment; 2nd 2 blocks down.
> > >
> > > Dw
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering

[Yoko]

Hello, JakartaOne attandee.

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: JakartaOne: The Gathering
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:44:39 -0800 (PST)

> The bar is not big. And any developer arriving early is bound to play with
> the Lego bricks provided at the bar. Assume that any one who has build a
> three tier or higher construct using bricks of more than one colour (of
> which at least one is red) is an apache develeoper.

I'll be there on Monday night.
And I'll be JakartaOne on Tuesday night, too.

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RE: JakartaOne: The Gathering

[dirkx]

On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, Marc Saegesser wrote:

> I'm in SF now, for the conference.  Any idea how to identify Jakarta group?
> I've only met a couple in person before.

> > OK, we need to make a decision, pronto! Let's meet at "21st
> > Amendment" (563
> > 2nd Street) at 7:30pm on Monday. We can take the rest from there.

The bar is not big. And any developer arriving early is bound to play with
the Lego bricks provided at the bar. Assume that any one who has build a
three tier or higher construct using bricks of more than one colour (of
which at least one is red) is an apache develeoper.

Dw


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[dirkx]

> Thanks for making the deceision.
>
> On foot :To get their from the Conf. Center.  Simply take Mission street

.. me wrong: it is HOWARD street. (Thanks Martin!).

> (the street which runs 'through' the conf. center's middle) and go Norht
> -one- block. Turn right onto second street and follow it for 2.5 block and
> you are there. Left side of the road.

Dw.


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RE: JakartaOne: The Gathering

[Marc Saegesser]

I'll be there.

I'm in SF now, for the conference.  Any idea how to identify Jakarta group?
I've only met a couple in person before.


Marc Saegesser 

> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 1:36 AM
> To: Jakarta General List
> Subject: Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering
> 
> 
> OK, we need to make a decision, pronto! Let's meet at "21st 
> Amendment" (563
> 2nd Street) at 7:30pm on Monday. We can take the rest from there.
> 
> Martin.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:24 AM
> Subject: Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering
> 
> 
> >
> > > Jon, can you suggest a place that isn't too far away from 
> Moscone that
> has a
> > > large bar (with real beer...) we can gather in, with a 
> reasonably-priced
> > > restaurant that we can then have dinner in?  Cuisine can 
> be anything,
> but a
> > > 'normal' american upscale bar menu might be the most 
> appealing to the
> > > majority.
> > >
> > > How about Monday or Wed night?  How about the Thirsty 
> Bear?  I don't
> know
> > > anything about the place - isn't that where the Jboss 
> people are holding
> > > court?
> >
> > Soapy Bear is horrid- they clean their tubes badly, use too 
> much detergent
> > when they do, and as a result you get old yeast and other 
> crap. Always a
> > headache the next day. I'd also be against the Irish place 
> - too noisy to
> > talk :-) Other near by ones which are good to OK IMHO, have 
> good beer and
> > good food are and are quiet enough to talk:
> >
> > Rickenbacher bar; 2nd and mission
> > 21st Amendment; 2nd 2 blocks down.
> >
> > Dw
> >
> >
> >
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[dirkx]

On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote:

> on 3/22/02 11:36 PM, "Martin Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > OK, we need to make a decision, pronto! Let's meet at "21st Amendment" (563
> > 2nd Street) at 7:30pm on Monday. We can take the rest from there.
> >
> > Martin.
>
> I will be there.
>

Thanks for making the deceision.

On foot :To get their from the Conf. Center.  Simply take Mission street
(the street which runs 'through' the conf. center's middle) and go Norht
-one- block. Turn right onto second street and follow it for 2.5 block and
you are there. Left side of the road.

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Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering

[Jon Scott Stevens]

on 3/22/02 11:36 PM, "Martin Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> OK, we need to make a decision, pronto! Let's meet at "21st Amendment" (563
> 2nd Street) at 7:30pm on Monday. We can take the rest from there.
> 
> Martin.

I will be there.

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[Martin Cooper]

OK, we need to make a decision, pronto! Let's meet at "21st Amendment" (563
2nd Street) at 7:30pm on Monday. We can take the rest from there.

Martin.


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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering


>
> > Jon, can you suggest a place that isn't too far away from Moscone that
has a
> > large bar (with real beer...) we can gather in, with a reasonably-priced
> > restaurant that we can then have dinner in?  Cuisine can be anything,
but a
> > 'normal' american upscale bar menu might be the most appealing to the
> > majority.
> >
> > How about Monday or Wed night?  How about the Thirsty Bear?  I don't
know
> > anything about the place - isn't that where the Jboss people are holding
> > court?
>
> Soapy Bear is horrid- they clean their tubes badly, use too much detergent
> when they do, and as a result you get old yeast and other crap. Always a
> headache the next day. I'd also be against the Irish place - too noisy to
> talk :-) Other near by ones which are good to OK IMHO, have good beer and
> good food are and are quiet enough to talk:
>
> Rickenbacher bar; 2nd and mission
> 21st Amendment; 2nd 2 blocks down.
>
> Dw
>
>
>
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Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering

[TANAKA Yoshihiro]

>"Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
>2002/03/22 03:35 AM EST

>There are people starting to travel (they are already traveling...) so lets
>decide.

I'm not a attendee but I have a suggestion:

1)First and foremost, let's meet each other!
  25th Mar. 12:00 PM in front of Room 102.
  Someone must have a mark, for example a printed out page
  of Jakarta home.

2)Discuss about the restaurant where to take dinner after meeting.

Regards.

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Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering

[dirkx]

> Jon, can you suggest a place that isn't too far away from Moscone that has a
> large bar (with real beer...) we can gather in, with a reasonably-priced
> restaurant that we can then have dinner in?  Cuisine can be anything, but a
> 'normal' american upscale bar menu might be the most appealing to the
> majority.
>
> How about Monday or Wed night?  How about the Thirsty Bear?  I don't know
> anything about the place - isn't that where the Jboss people are holding
> court?

Soapy Bear is horrid- they clean their tubes badly, use too much detergent
when they do, and as a result you get old yeast and other crap. Always a
headache the next day. I'd also be against the Irish place - too noisy to
talk :-) Other near by ones which are good to OK IMHO, have good beer and
good food are and are quiet enough to talk:

Rickenbacher bar; 2nd and mission
21st Amendment; 2nd 2 blocks down.

Dw



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Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering

[martin . cooper]

Monday would be better for me - as Marc mentioned, there are BOFs that 
might cause a conflict on Wednesday - but I'm sure I could make other nights.

I haven't been to the Thirsty Bear either. It's very close to Moscone, 
though. The cuisine is Spanish, and the prices look reasonable (for San 
Francisco). It looks like the bar is quite big, from the photo on the web 
site. The JBoss people have reserved a room there on Tuesday and Wednesday, 
although their party is elsewhere. Again, I haven't been there personally, 
but it seems promising.

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At 12:35 AM 3/22/02, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>There are people starting to travel (they are already traveling...) so lets
>decide.
>
>Jon, can you suggest a place that isn't too far away from Moscone that has a
>large bar (with real beer...) we can gather in, with a reasonably-priced
>restaurant that we can then have dinner in?  Cuisine can be anything, but a
>'normal' american upscale bar menu might be the most appealing to the
>majority.
>
>How about Monday or Wed night?  How about the Thirsty Bear?  I don't know
>anything about the place - isn't that where the Jboss people are holding
>court?
>
>geir
>
>
>On 3/22/02 1:48 AM, "Martin Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Where are we on this? It would be so sad to have so many of us attending
> > JavaOne in the same place, but without the opportunity to get together as
> > "Jakarta people".
> >
> > Jon is right - there are a bazillion places we could meet, and a bazillion
> > places we could eat. Sorry, the container is ready.
> >
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> > From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 11:12 AM
> > Subject: Re: Micro JakartaOne
> >
> >
> >> On 3/15/02 12:52 PM, "Jon Scott Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> on 3/15/02 5:18 AM, "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
>  Any suggestions for a good restaurant anyone?
> >>>
> >>> There are a bazillion good restaurants in SF. You just pick the style of
> >>> food you want and I can list off about 100 for each style.
> >>>
> >>> Also, I'm still willing to show people the club, even if we aren't doing
> >>> anything...
> >>>
> >>
> >> What kind of attendance commitment would it take to open the bar for a
> > small
> >> crowd?  We can just meet there?  I certainly want to see the place...
> >>
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RE: JakartaOne: The Gathering

[Marc Saegesser]

Tuesday works better for me, but I can find time on any evening (there is
beer involved, after all).  Wednesday evening will conflict with the Struts
and Servlet BOFs so that might impact attendance.

Thirsty Bear, http://www.thirstybear.com, looks good based on their web
site, but I've never been there.  Any comment from locals?

Marc Saegesser 

> -Original Message-
> From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 2:36 AM
> To: Jakarta General List
> Subject: Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering
> 
> 
> There are people starting to travel (they are already 
> traveling...) so lets
> decide.
> 
> Jon, can you suggest a place that isn't too far away from 
> Moscone that has a
> large bar (with real beer...) we can gather in, with a 
> reasonably-priced
> restaurant that we can then have dinner in?  Cuisine can be 
> anything, but a
> 'normal' american upscale bar menu might be the most appealing to the
> majority.
> 
> How about Monday or Wed night?  How about the Thirsty Bear?  
> I don't know
> anything about the place - isn't that where the Jboss people 
> are holding
> court?
> 
> geir
> 
> 
> On 3/22/02 1:48 AM, "Martin Cooper" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Where are we on this? It would be so sad to have so many of 
> us attending
> > JavaOne in the same place, but without the opportunity to 
> get together as
> > "Jakarta people".
> > 
> > Jon is right - there are a bazillion places we could meet, 
> and a bazillion
> > places we could eat. Sorry, the container is ready.
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 11:12 AM
> > Subject: Re: Micro JakartaOne
> > 
> > 
> >> On 3/15/02 12:52 PM, "Jon Scott Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> on 3/15/02 5:18 AM, "Geir Magnusson Jr." 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> Any suggestions for a good restaurant anyone?
> >>> 
> >>> There are a bazillion good restaurants in SF. You just 
> pick the style of
> >>> food you want and I can list off about 100 for each style.
> >>> 
> >>> Also, I'm still willing to show people the club, even if 
> we aren't doing
> >>> anything...
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> What kind of attendance commitment would it take to open 
> the bar for a
> > small
> >> crowd?  We can just meet there?  I certainly want to see 
> the place...
> >> 
> >> 
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Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering

[Geir Magnusson Jr.]

There are people starting to travel (they are already traveling...) so lets
decide.

Jon, can you suggest a place that isn't too far away from Moscone that has a
large bar (with real beer...) we can gather in, with a reasonably-priced
restaurant that we can then have dinner in?  Cuisine can be anything, but a
'normal' american upscale bar menu might be the most appealing to the
majority.

How about Monday or Wed night?  How about the Thirsty Bear?  I don't know
anything about the place - isn't that where the Jboss people are holding
court?

geir


On 3/22/02 1:48 AM, "Martin Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Where are we on this? It would be so sad to have so many of us attending
> JavaOne in the same place, but without the opportunity to get together as
> "Jakarta people".
> 
> Jon is right - there are a bazillion places we could meet, and a bazillion
> places we could eat. Sorry, the container is ready.
> 
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> From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 11:12 AM
> Subject: Re: Micro JakartaOne
> 
> 
>> On 3/15/02 12:52 PM, "Jon Scott Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> on 3/15/02 5:18 AM, "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> 
 Any suggestions for a good restaurant anyone?
>>> 
>>> There are a bazillion good restaurants in SF. You just pick the style of
>>> food you want and I can list off about 100 for each style.
>>> 
>>> Also, I'm still willing to show people the club, even if we aren't doing
>>> anything...
>>> 
>> 
>> What kind of attendance commitment would it take to open the bar for a
> small
>> crowd?  We can just meet there?  I certainly want to see the place...
>> 
>> 
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Re: JakartaOne to be Cancelled ...

[Vic Cekvenich]

Just in case...let me repeat an offer:
I am teaching a commercial Struts class on the 28th AM. At 11AM it will 
be over (any Jakarta comitter could come for free or/and I could do a 
quick thing Struts presentation for Jakarta)
I have paid for the room for the duration of the day and will have a 
large projector so this is free to Jakarta, (the room and projector for 
a few hours.
There will be at 20 Struts people, and by posting to a few Jakarta 
groups, you would get more people. So I am willing to help promote it 
(see news.basebeans.com or baseBeans.com/news.jsp) somehow. Not looking 
for anything back.

Otherwise, I would like to meet a few of you in a resturant/bar.

Vic

Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:

> Due to a perceived lack of interest, I believe we must cancel JakartaOne
> this year, unless people step up to help make this happen.
> 
> We should make sure that when this happens, it is an unqualified success.  I
> feel responsible for this ending like this, but my time constraints this
> month are such that I am greatly overextended, and naively assumed a
> different volunteer response.  Jon, of course, has since explained the
> errors of my ways :)
> 
> I received very enthusiastic support from some people who were excited about
> the idea, and want to thank all that showed support and took the time to
> submit suggestions for talks.  They were great, and I hope that they can do
> the talk somewhere, sometime - useful stuff.  But all in all, I got about 16
> replies privately, plus a few publicly, and that doesn't warrant the risk of
> setting things up in StudioZ (is the .tv required here? :)
> 
> So I would like to go back out on the limb and suggest that we choose a nice
> restaurant/bar somewhere reasonably accessible to the JavaOne attendees and
> all meet there one evening to meet each other.
> 
> If someone with local knowledge would suggest a place, that would be great.
> 
> geir
> 
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Re: JakartaOne

[Peter Donald]

On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:19, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> Before we do the call for papers, does anyone really care?  I would rather
> do nothing than do something lame.
>
> Serious show of hands here - if you will be in the area, and are interested
> in attending, say so.  Feel free to send to me directly so we don't bomb
> the list with that kind of noise.  I will post a summary.

Love to come along and see some faces but melbournes a long way away ;)


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Re: JakartaOne

[Endre Stølsvik]

On 11 Mar 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:

| On Mon, 2002-03-11 at 05:19, GOMEZ Henri wrote:
| > Any luck that a JakartaOne will ever be in Europe,
| > even better in Paris ?
| >
|
| Heck from the East Coast US right now its cheaper to fly/stay in Europe
| than the west coast (go figure).  For kicks I investigated hotel prices
| in the area WHOA!  For about 2-$300 right now I can get to Munich
| (highly suggest for a get together).

Live like a backpacker! Stay at Green Tortoise or something! $15-20/night.
Pick up a backpackers handbook, and you'll find lots of such options..
Then, of course, it ain't exactly fantastic comfort, and the bedbugs might
even bite! ;)

;-D

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Re: JakartaOne : Plan

[Endre Stølsvik]

On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:

| On 3/12/02 6:36 AM, "Endre Stølsvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|
| > On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
| >
| > | Enough people have expressed interest in Jakarta One that I believe we
| > | should go forward, at least as a social gathering so we can see what we all
| > | look like.
| >
| > Do you guys know about "JBossOne"? It's apparently going to be located
| > "right across the road from JavaOne".. I'm not sure though, and I haven't
| > read all messages here lately, so it might have come up already..
|
| Yes - they are having it during the day, as I understand it.  I was hoping a
| few of them (or all of them :)  would come and join us - since they are
| giving talks at JBossOne, it might be nice to see if they would repeat a
| talk or two at JakartaOne.

You actually mentioned it in the same message I was replying to! How
observant of me! ;)


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Re: JakartaOne : Plan

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On 3/12/02 6:36 AM, "Endre Stølsvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> 
> | Enough people have expressed interest in Jakarta One that I believe we
> | should go forward, at least as a social gathering so we can see what we all
> | look like.
> 
> Do you guys know about "JBossOne"? It's apparently going to be located
> "right across the road from JavaOne".. I'm not sure though, and I haven't
> read all messages here lately, so it might have come up already..

Yes - they are having it during the day, as I understand it.  I was hoping a
few of them (or all of them :)  would come and join us - since they are
giving talks at JBossOne, it might be nice to see if they would repeat a
talk or two at JakartaOne.


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Re: JakartaOne : Plan

[Endre Stølsvik]

On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:

| Enough people have expressed interest in Jakarta One that I believe we
| should go forward, at least as a social gathering so we can see what we all
| look like.

Do you guys know about "JBossOne"? It's apparently going to be located
"right across the road from JavaOne".. I'm not sure though, and I haven't
read all messages here lately, so it might have come up already..

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Re: JakartaOne : Plan

[Geir Magnusson Jr.]

On 3/11/02 12:31 PM, "Scott Sanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Have we invited the xml apache people yet?

Everyone on the planet is invited  Once we get things sorted out time
and such, we'll post this all over...

> 
> I think we should...
> 
> Scott
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 9:05 AM
>> To: Jakarta General List
>> Subject: JakartaOne : Plan
>> 
>> 
>> Enough people have expressed interest in Jakarta One that I
>> believe we should go forward, at least as a social gathering
>> so we can see what we all look like.
>> 
>> Due to the short amount of time available for preparation, as
>> the de-facto chair of the de-facto committee (James, Jon,
>> although he doesn't know it, and myself...) I would like to
>> propose that we table the idea of a separate technical
>> session and keep it social.
>> 
>> However, if we have enough interest, we can do them in
>> conjunction with the social program.  That might make in less
>> formal, and people will be less inhibited.  For example, I
>> know I can get a well-known Java programmer to come and talk
>> about why he likes .NET so much.  If we can convince Sam Ruby
>> to show up, as chair of the .NET CLR ECMA committee (did I
>> get that right, Sam?), we can turn it into a discussion
>> rather than a presentation.
>> 
>> 
>> JakartaOne 2002
>> ===
>> 
>> When
>> 
>> Tuesday, March 26, 2002 time TBA : suggest evening, with
>> technical talks first, then music afterwards - refreshments
>> served throughout
>> 
>> Where
>> -
>> StudioZ.tv (http://www.studioz.tv/) (Jon Scott Steven's
>> club/event space)
>> 
>> What
>> 
>> Gathering of the Open Source community  - meet the faces with
>> possible informal technical talks.  Refreshments certainly available.
>> 
>> RSVP
>> 
>> While not required for entrance, the courtesy of an RSVP to
>> help us gauge attendance will be appreciated.  To do so, send
>> a message to geirm at optonline dot net with the subject line
>> 
>>   [RSVP] JakartaOne
>> 
>> And that will be fine.
>> 
>> 
>> Call for Papers
>> ---
>> Anyone wishing to give a short talk (10-15 mins) on something
>> they think is interesting and relevant is invited to submit a
>> short proposal to geirm at optonline dot net, which will be
>> reviewed by the ad-hoc committee (Geir and
>> James).If there are enough willing participants, we will
>> get facilities
>> set up (white screen and projector...)
>> 
>> One idea is to invite the Jboss people over - they are having
>> 'JBossOne' at the same time, but during the day, so maybe we
>> could get a few to come and talk at JakartaOne as well.
>> 
>> What We Need
>> 
>> I am on the east coast of the US, and will be in the UK the
>> week before JakartaOne, so need some local help.  Since we
>> are minimizing the scope, and StudioZ.tv will be managing the
>> refreshments, it seems that the biggest need
>> will be wrt publicity.   I have no clue how to do this, but
>> here are things
>> that spring to mind.  I assume that Jon with his event
>> organization experience will correct and add to the list.
>> 
>>  o Can we get volunteers to distribute flyers at the Tuesday
>> morning keynote, or in the lunch areas during the day?  We
>> could do that both Monday and Tuesday to get some awareness
>> 
>>  o We will need some financial support to pay for the paper
>> and copying cost.  Maybe 1/4 size 8.5x11 handbills can be
>> cheap to produce at kinko's? If someone could figure out how
>> much it would cost, I will be happy to pay for some, and we
>> can take a collection or approach the ASF.
>> 
>>  o Once we iron out the specifics (like what times are
>> appropos) I'll be happy to post the finaly announcement
>> anywhere and everywhere.  If we can get it on Slashdot... :)
>> 
>> Anything else?
>> 
>> 
>> 
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RE: JakartaOne : Plan

[Scott Sanders]

Have we invited the xml apache people yet?

I think we should...

Scott

> -Original Message-
> From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 9:05 AM
> To: Jakarta General List
> Subject: JakartaOne : Plan
> 
> 
> Enough people have expressed interest in Jakarta One that I 
> believe we should go forward, at least as a social gathering 
> so we can see what we all look like.
> 
> Due to the short amount of time available for preparation, as 
> the de-facto chair of the de-facto committee (James, Jon, 
> although he doesn't know it, and myself...) I would like to 
> propose that we table the idea of a separate technical 
> session and keep it social.
> 
> However, if we have enough interest, we can do them in 
> conjunction with the social program.  That might make in less 
> formal, and people will be less inhibited.  For example, I 
> know I can get a well-known Java programmer to come and talk 
> about why he likes .NET so much.  If we can convince Sam Ruby 
> to show up, as chair of the .NET CLR ECMA committee (did I 
> get that right, Sam?), we can turn it into a discussion 
> rather than a presentation.
> 
> 
> JakartaOne 2002
> ===
> 
> When
> 
> Tuesday, March 26, 2002 time TBA : suggest evening, with 
> technical talks first, then music afterwards - refreshments 
> served throughout
> 
> Where
> -
> StudioZ.tv (http://www.studioz.tv/) (Jon Scott Steven's 
> club/event space)
> 
> What
> 
> Gathering of the Open Source community  - meet the faces with 
> possible informal technical talks.  Refreshments certainly available.
> 
> RSVP
> 
> While not required for entrance, the courtesy of an RSVP to 
> help us gauge attendance will be appreciated.  To do so, send 
> a message to geirm at optonline dot net with the subject line
> 
>   [RSVP] JakartaOne
> 
> And that will be fine.
> 
> 
> Call for Papers
> ---
> Anyone wishing to give a short talk (10-15 mins) on something 
> they think is interesting and relevant is invited to submit a 
> short proposal to geirm at optonline dot net, which will be 
> reviewed by the ad-hoc committee (Geir and
> James).If there are enough willing participants, we will 
> get facilities
> set up (white screen and projector...)
> 
> One idea is to invite the Jboss people over - they are having 
> 'JBossOne' at the same time, but during the day, so maybe we 
> could get a few to come and talk at JakartaOne as well.
> 
> What We Need
> 
> I am on the east coast of the US, and will be in the UK the 
> week before JakartaOne, so need some local help.  Since we 
> are minimizing the scope, and StudioZ.tv will be managing the 
> refreshments, it seems that the biggest need
> will be wrt publicity.   I have no clue how to do this, but 
> here are things
> that spring to mind.  I assume that Jon with his event 
> organization experience will correct and add to the list.
> 
>  o Can we get volunteers to distribute flyers at the Tuesday 
> morning keynote, or in the lunch areas during the day?  We 
> could do that both Monday and Tuesday to get some awareness
> 
>  o We will need some financial support to pay for the paper 
> and copying cost.  Maybe 1/4 size 8.5x11 handbills can be 
> cheap to produce at kinko's? If someone could figure out how 
> much it would cost, I will be happy to pay for some, and we 
> can take a collection or approach the ASF.
> 
>  o Once we iron out the specifics (like what times are 
> appropos) I'll be happy to post the finaly announcement 
> anywhere and everywhere.  If we can get it on Slashdot... :)
> 
> Anything else?
> 
> 
> 
> 
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On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Pier Fumagalli wrote:

> "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > o We will need some financial support to pay for the paper and copying
> > cost.  Maybe 1/4 size 8.5x11 handbills can be cheap to produce at kinko's?
> > If someone could figure out how much it would cost, I will be happy to pay
> > for some, and we can take a collection or approach the ASF.

> We can ask the foundation to sponsor this stuff... Shouldn't be much $$$ and
> IMO it would be a good cause...

No trouble - but take some simple steps: get your PMC to bless this event
- if they are sensbible then they'll propably impose a $ cap on it - and
make sure you keep the receipts. This is why the ASF has money in the
bank.

No problem.

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[Pier Fumagalli]

"Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> o We will need some financial support to pay for the paper and copying
> cost.  Maybe 1/4 size 8.5x11 handbills can be cheap to produce at kinko's?
> If someone could figure out how much it would cost, I will be happy to pay
> for some, and we can take a collection or approach the ASF.

We can ask the foundation to sponsor this stuff... Shouldn't be much $$$ and
IMO it would be a good cause...

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Re: JakartaOne : Plan

[Geir Magnusson Jr.]

Additional idea just sent to me :

Anyone who is with a vendor that will be on the show floor, would you be
willing to keep flyers at your booth Monday and Tuesday?  Let me know so we
can get a count if we are going to produce, or if you are willing, we can
have the copy ready early so you can make your own pile with your own
equipment and resources :)

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Re: JakartaOne : Plan

[Geir Magnusson Jr.]

Before anyone says anything, yes, I feel like a moron for spelling out geirm
at optonline dot net given that the From: is that and it's in my sig.

I have no idea what I was thinking.

On 3/11/02 12:04 PM, "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Enough people have expressed interest in Jakarta One that I believe we
> should go forward, at least as a social gathering so we can see what we all
> look like.
> 
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Re: JakartaOne

[Conor MacNeill]

Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
 >

> Heck from the East Coast US right now its cheaper to fly/stay in Europe
> than the west coast (go figure).  For kicks I investigated hotel prices
> in the area WHOA!  For about 2-$300 right now I can get to Munich
> (highly suggest for a get together).  Hotels in Munich in the off season
> drop to like 110 marks ($50) a night to stay in the thick of things
> (with bathroom and shower), Europe is a wonderful place to spend dollars
> (especially when the currency sinks!).  The only nasty thing is that
> there 7-10 hour flight!  


That's short-haul from my part of the world :-)

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RE: JakartaOne

[Steven Noels]

Danny Angus wrote:

>
> We could organise our own.. but where? I'm sure I could cope
> with a w/e in
> Paris in the Springtime :-)

We (as in: the two-man-shop which is our little 'company') are seriously
considering hosting a techy one-day seminar/conference for Apache-minded
people, mostly gathering committers & users of Jakarta & XML projects
and get them to explain what they do (and why).

Location would be in Belgium, near Ghent. A date has not been fixed yet,
but it would be immediately before or after the summer. Because of our
operational size, we would charge a minimal entrance fee to cover
expenses (food, location, etc), unless we find sponsors.

People (seriously) interested to help us organizing the event are
invited to get in touch with us.

Regards,

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RE: JakartaOne

[Andrew C. Oliver]

On Mon, 2002-03-11 at 05:19, GOMEZ Henri wrote:
> Any luck that a JakartaOne will ever be in Europe,
> even better in Paris ?
> 

Heck from the East Coast US right now its cheaper to fly/stay in Europe
than the west coast (go figure).  For kicks I investigated hotel prices
in the area WHOA!  For about 2-$300 right now I can get to Munich
(highly suggest for a get together).  Hotels in Munich in the off season
drop to like 110 marks ($50) a night to stay in the thick of things
(with bathroom and shower), Europe is a wonderful place to spend dollars
(especially when the currency sinks!).  The only nasty thing is that
there 7-10 hour flight!  Of course if one inebriates himself
sufficiently until one is numb the whole flight then one can just sleep
through the whole unpleasant thing.

Anyhow, I think they should hold the ApacheCon in New York this year. 
Just my opinion.  I'd go to a Jakarta One but it'd have needed to been
planned out farther ahead for me to judge whether it was worth flying
out for or not.  I'm not really that interested in going to JavaOne for
a few grand.  (not on my dime at least)

-Andy

> As many Europeans commiters, I'd to go to SF put
> time and funds are allways missing ;)
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> >
> >Before we do the call for papers, does anyone really care?  I 
> >would rather
> >do nothing than do something lame.
> >
> >Serious show of hands here - if you will be in the area, and 
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RE: JakartaOne

[Danny Angus]

We could organise our own.. but where? I'm sure I could cope with a w/e in
Paris in the Springtime :-)

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> Any luck that a JakartaOne will ever be in Europe,
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RE: JakartaOne

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Any luck that a JakartaOne will ever be in Europe,
even better in Paris ?

As many Europeans commiters, I'd to go to SF put
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>
>Before we do the call for papers, does anyone really care?  I 
>would rather
>do nothing than do something lame.
>
>Serious show of hands here - if you will be in the area, and 
>are interested
>in attending, say so.  Feel free to send to me directly so we 
>don't bomb the
>list with that kind of noise.  I will post a summary.
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Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)

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"Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 3/4/02 3:42 PM, "Jon Scott Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> on 3/4/02 12:38 PM, "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> If we do that, we can do something technical as well in the Covalent space?
>> 
>> I don't think that would be a good idea because then you would be asking
>> people to travel all over town.
>> 
>> Just do the event in StudioZ...we have two spaces and the 'smaller' B space
>> (3000+ sq feet) is perfect for technical sessions...
>> 
>> Dirk offered to bring projectors and I can probably borrow one from BrianB
>> as well...
>
> That would be great then.  Just didn't want to have to shout over the noise
> from the dance floor :)

The space is really well setup for this sort of split-scene deal.

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Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)

[Daniel Rall]

Jon, let me know what I can to help.

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On 3/4/02 11:36 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yea right ! You liar :-) Sounds too cool to be true :-) Of course this
> should be an all night session.

Definitely an all-nighter. :)

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Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)

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Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)


> On 3/4/02 3:42 PM, "Jon Scott Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > on 3/4/02 12:38 PM, "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> If we do that, we can do something technical as well in the Covalent
space?
> >
> > I don't think that would be a good idea because then you would be asking
> > people to travel all over town.
> >
> > Just do the event in StudioZ...we have two spaces and the 'smaller' B
space
> > (3000+ sq feet) is perfect for technical sessions...
> >
> > Dirk offered to bring projectors and I can probably borrow one from
BrianB
> > as well...
>
> That would be great then.  Just didn't want to have to shout over the
noise
> from the dance floor :)

My sentiments exactly! ;-)

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Re: JakartaOne?

[Glenn Nielsen]

I will be there and am interested. :-)

James Strachan wrote:
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> JavaOne is around the corner. Do any Jakarta folks fancy a JavaOne get
> together in a bar somewhere? Maybe Jon's new bar?
> 
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[James Strachan]

This all sounds great - am looking forward to it. And to answer Jon's mail
too, Tuesday sounds good.

Apart from just meeting folks, having techie chats and drinking beer, it
will be nice to do some cross-group fertilization. There's so much going on
that its hard to keep track of it all. e.g. Maven is new to me ;-)

James

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From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On 3/4/02 1:25 AM, "James Strachan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > JavaOne is around the corner. Do any Jakarta folks fancy a JavaOne get
> > together in a bar somewhere? Maybe Jon's new bar?
> >
>
> I was thinking about this earlier in feb, but wasn't sure we had the
time...
>
> I wanted to call it 'OpenOne' (but 'JakartaOne' is nice...) and use a
space
> like Jon's where we could have both a social gathering as well as some
short
> technical talks on things that didn't make it into JavaOne (for example,
if
> it didn't have anything to do with XML or web services).
>
> Here's what I had so far as a draft :
>
> I would like to get a sense of community interest for the following idea
>
> Proposal
> 
>
> Hold an off-site convention during the week of JavaOne to provide a venue
> for topics that didn't make the cut for JavaOne as well as topics that
did,
> of course.  Examples include (imagination challenged right now...)
>
>  o bastard J2EE technologies
>- template engines (could you guess I would suggest this ?)
>- publishing frameworks (Cocoon et al)
>- web app frameworks (Turbine, Maverick, Struts)
>- ?
>
>  o mainstream technologies
>- web services (I want to hear Sam talk about Axis :)
>- XML-RPC
>- ?
>
>  o community discussions
>- JSPA issues
>- ?
>
>  o other stuff
>- how about JDD talking about Objective C
>- Gump sociology
>- Maven
>
>
> Rationale
> -
>
> There are a lot of interesting things in the world that Sun's marketing
crew
> doesn't have space or interest for at JavaOne.   Many of these things are
in
> daily production use by people, and it would be nice to hear about them.
>
> Many developers will be in the area for this week, and if we could find a
> way to bring us together for both social interaction as well as learning
> about some of the topics we work on and are interested in, it seems like a
> win all around.
>
> Thoughts
> 
>
> We have an in with an event space in San Francisco (hey, Jon!) and from
what
> I understand, it has two distinct spaces, one of which can serve alcohol.
> So we can divide, cleanly, the social space and the technical space.
Those
> in the social space can bring their own, I guess :)
>
> However, I think if we do this, we should pay for the space (unless
> studio.tv wants the publicity :), and there lies a conflict of interest
> problem, but I assume that if the rate is competitive, as I am sure it
will
> be, we can all look the other way.
>
> I don't know if we have the time to pull it off - it would be nice to put
> something non-lame together.  I think we shouldn't be aggressive about
this
> - find a spot in the schedule so people aren't torn between J1 and this...
>
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Re: Re: Boycott JavaOne? was Re: Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)

[acoliver]

yeah!  And maybe pay for it if we get like 10% of the profits of the
beveraging of everyone who we get to come ;-)

>On Mon, 4 Mar 2002 14:05:20 -0600 "Morgan Delagrange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote.
>We could save travel money if we slept under the bar.
>
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>Subject: Boycott JavaOne? was Re: Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)
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>
>> If a group were zealously opensource, a group Could publically boycott
the
>> JavaOne, hold a "countersession" called "JakartaOne" at a bar or club and
>a
>> certain club owner might make a killing in selling inebriation to geeks
>and
>> make a very public spit in a certain corporations eye.
>>
>> Hypothetically of course.  It would certainly make for interesting
press..
>>
>> Moot for me because of my limited wealth.
>>
>> -Andy
>>
>> >On Mon, 04 Mar 2002 19:20:48   Pier Fumagalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote.
>> >"Jon Scott Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I would love to host JakartaOne at Studio Z. I think it would be a lot
>of
>> >> fun.
>> >>
>> >>   For free. *
>> >>
>> >> However, I do need to know the day/time/length of the event as well as
>> what
>> >> other things will be needed (chairs/tables/whatever). Unless some
>people
>> >> here volunteers, I can look into getting some great local
>> >> techno/house/trance/ambient DJ's to spin music.
>> >>
>> >> We do have a DSL line into the space as well as ethernet drops
>literally
>> >> every five feet (the space was a .bomb before we moved in) and I will
>> have
>> >> an open 802.11b network available in the next week or so (as soon as
>the
>> >> Linksys is delivered). Bring your laptops. :-)
>> >>
>> >> Studio Z is not walking distance from Moscone, however, it is only
>about
>> a 5
>> >> minute, $4-5 taxi ride. Not a big deal.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> * The only requirement is that the date/times not conflict with any
>other
>> >> events that we are putting on there.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The Covalent deal also sounds cool, but I doubt they have a large
dance
>> >> floor and a big sound system. :-)
>> >
>> >And I can vouch for him... The space is _fantastic_... Been there, seen
>> >that, wanna get back! :) Go JON! :)
>> >
>> >Pier (for free? Where's that nice scottish spirit of yours! :)
>> >
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Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)

[dirkx]

On Mon, 4 Mar 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:

> On 3/4/02 3:19 PM, "Jon Scott Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ok, how does Tue, March 26th sound?
> > If that works, then I need you guys to pick a time range...
> If we do that, we can do something technical as well in the Covalent space?

Fine with me - just let Costin and me know the day(s) and time(s).

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Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)

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On 3/4/02 3:42 PM, "Jon Scott Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> on 3/4/02 12:38 PM, "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> If we do that, we can do something technical as well in the Covalent space?
> 
> I don't think that would be a good idea because then you would be asking
> people to travel all over town.
> 
> Just do the event in StudioZ...we have two spaces and the 'smaller' B space
> (3000+ sq feet) is perfect for technical sessions...
> 
> Dirk offered to bring projectors and I can probably borrow one from BrianB
> as well...

That would be great then.  Just didn't want to have to shout over the noise
from the dance floor :)

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Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)

[Jon Scott Stevens]

on 3/4/02 12:38 PM, "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If we do that, we can do something technical as well in the Covalent space?

I don't think that would be a good idea because then you would be asking
people to travel all over town.

Just do the event in StudioZ...we have two spaces and the 'smaller' B space
(3000+ sq feet) is perfect for technical sessions...

Dirk offered to bring projectors and I can probably borrow one from BrianB
as well...

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On 3/4/02 3:19 PM, "Jon Scott Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ok, how does Tue, March 26th sound?
> 
> If that works, then I need you guys to pick a time range...
> 

If we do that, we can do something technical as well in the Covalent space?

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Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)

[Jon Scott Stevens]

Ok, how does Tue, March 26th sound?

If that works, then I need you guys to pick a time range...

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Re: Boycott JavaOne? was Re: Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)

[Morgan Delagrange]

We could save travel money if we slept under the bar.

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> If a group were zealously opensource, a group Could publically boycott the
> JavaOne, hold a "countersession" called "JakartaOne" at a bar or club and
a
> certain club owner might make a killing in selling inebriation to geeks
and
> make a very public spit in a certain corporations eye.
>
> Hypothetically of course.  It would certainly make for interesting press..
>
> Moot for me because of my limited wealth.
>
> -Andy
>
> >On Mon, 04 Mar 2002 19:20:48   Pier Fumagalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote.
> >"Jon Scott Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> I would love to host JakartaOne at Studio Z. I think it would be a lot
of
> >> fun.
> >>
> >>   For free. *
> >>
> >> However, I do need to know the day/time/length of the event as well as
> what
> >> other things will be needed (chairs/tables/whatever). Unless some
people
> >> here volunteers, I can look into getting some great local
> >> techno/house/trance/ambient DJ's to spin music.
> >>
> >> We do have a DSL line into the space as well as ethernet drops
literally
> >> every five feet (the space was a .bomb before we moved in) and I will
> have
> >> an open 802.11b network available in the next week or so (as soon as
the
> >> Linksys is delivered). Bring your laptops. :-)
> >>
> >> Studio Z is not walking distance from Moscone, however, it is only
about
> a 5
> >> minute, $4-5 taxi ride. Not a big deal.
> >>
> >>
> >> * The only requirement is that the date/times not conflict with any
other
> >> events that we are putting on there.
> >>
> >>
> >> The Covalent deal also sounds cool, but I doubt they have a large dance
> >> floor and a big sound system. :-)
> >
> >And I can vouch for him... The space is _fantastic_... Been there, seen
> >that, wanna get back! :) Go JON! :)
> >
> >Pier (for free? Where's that nice scottish spirit of yours! :)
> >
> >
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Boycott JavaOne? was Re: Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)

[acoliver]

If a group were zealously opensource, a group Could publically boycott the
JavaOne, hold a "countersession" called "JakartaOne" at a bar or club and a
certain club owner might make a killing in selling inebriation to geeks and
make a very public spit in a certain corporations eye.

Hypothetically of course.  It would certainly make for interesting press..

Moot for me because of my limited wealth.

-Andy

>On Mon, 04 Mar 2002 19:20:48   Pier Fumagalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote.
>"Jon Scott Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I would love to host JakartaOne at Studio Z. I think it would be a lot of
>> fun.
>> 
>>   For free. *
>> 
>> However, I do need to know the day/time/length of the event as well as
what
>> other things will be needed (chairs/tables/whatever). Unless some people
>> here volunteers, I can look into getting some great local
>> techno/house/trance/ambient DJ's to spin music.
>> 
>> We do have a DSL line into the space as well as ethernet drops literally
>> every five feet (the space was a .bomb before we moved in) and I will
have
>> an open 802.11b network available in the next week or so (as soon as the
>> Linksys is delivered). Bring your laptops. :-)
>> 
>> Studio Z is not walking distance from Moscone, however, it is only about
a 5
>> minute, $4-5 taxi ride. Not a big deal.
>> 
>> 
>> * The only requirement is that the date/times not conflict with any other
>> events that we are putting on there.
>> 
>> 
>> The Covalent deal also sounds cool, but I doubt they have a large dance
>> floor and a big sound system. :-)
>
>And I can vouch for him... The space is _fantastic_... Been there, seen
>that, wanna get back! :) Go JON! :)
>
>Pier (for free? Where's that nice scottish spirit of yours! :)
>
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[Danny Angus]

>Pier (for free? Where's that nice scottish spirit of yours! :)

Oi! we're listening ;-)

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Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)

[dirkx]

On Mon, 4 Mar 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote:

> I would love to host JakartaOne at Studio Z. I think it would be a lot of
> fun.
...
> The Covalent deal also sounds cool, but I doubt they have a large dance
> floor and a big sound system. :-)

Yea right ! You liar :-) Sounds too cool to be true :-) Of course this
should be an all night session.

Dw


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Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)

[Colin Chalmers]

>
> And I can vouch for him... The space is _fantastic_... Been there, seen
> that, wanna get back! :) Go JON! :)
>
> Pier (for free? Where's that nice scottish spirit of yours! :)
>

Scottish?  hhmm and I thought I was the only one on the list!

Unfortunately I wont be able to make it :(  but the choice of music does
sound appealing :-)

/colin


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Re: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)

[Pier Fumagalli]

"Jon Scott Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I would love to host JakartaOne at Studio Z. I think it would be a lot of
> fun.
> 
>   For free. *
> 
> However, I do need to know the day/time/length of the event as well as what
> other things will be needed (chairs/tables/whatever). Unless some people
> here volunteers, I can look into getting some great local
> techno/house/trance/ambient DJ's to spin music.
> 
> We do have a DSL line into the space as well as ethernet drops literally
> every five feet (the space was a .bomb before we moved in) and I will have
> an open 802.11b network available in the next week or so (as soon as the
> Linksys is delivered). Bring your laptops. :-)
> 
> Studio Z is not walking distance from Moscone, however, it is only about a 5
> minute, $4-5 taxi ride. Not a big deal.
> 
> 
> * The only requirement is that the date/times not conflict with any other
> events that we are putting on there.
> 
> 
> The Covalent deal also sounds cool, but I doubt they have a large dance
> floor and a big sound system. :-)

And I can vouch for him... The space is _fantastic_... Been there, seen
that, wanna get back! :) Go JON! :)

Pier (for free? Where's that nice scottish spirit of yours! :)



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StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)

[Jon Scott Stevens]

I would love to host JakartaOne at Studio Z. I think it would be a lot of
fun.

For free. *

However, I do need to know the day/time/length of the event as well as what
other things will be needed (chairs/tables/whatever). Unless some people
here volunteers, I can look into getting some great local
techno/house/trance/ambient DJ's to spin music.

We do have a DSL line into the space as well as ethernet drops literally
every five feet (the space was a .bomb before we moved in) and I will have
an open 802.11b network available in the next week or so (as soon as the
Linksys is delivered). Bring your laptops. :-)

Studio Z is not walking distance from Moscone, however, it is only about a 5
minute, $4-5 taxi ride. Not a big deal.


* The only requirement is that the date/times not conflict with any other
events that we are putting on there.


The Covalent deal also sounds cool, but I doubt they have a large dance
floor and a big sound system. :-)

Just let me know the details...

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[Fwd: Re: JakartaOne

[Vic Cekvenich]

I would be happy to sponsor a hotel conference room, ie. FREE room, 
screen and projector on the 28th, say noon - end of day. (I have paid 
for an extra room)


I am holding a paid Struts class AM on the same day.

Let me know if/how I can assist more.
Feel free to fill up the agenda, I could do a FREE 30 minute version of 
Struts if needed.

Vic


> 
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: JakartaOne?
> Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 06:15:05 -0500
> From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> On 3/4/02 1:25 AM, "James Strachan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
>>JavaOne is around the corner. Do any Jakarta folks fancy a JavaOne get
>>together in a bar somewhere? Maybe Jon's new bar?
>>
>>
> 
> I was thinking about this earlier in feb, but wasn't sure we had the
> time...
> 
> I wanted to call it 'OpenOne' (but 'JakartaOne' is nice...) and use a
> space
> like Jon's where we could have both a social gathering as well as some
> short
> technical talks on things that didn't make it into JavaOne (for example,
> if
> it didn't have anything to do with XML or web services).
> 
> Here's what I had so far as a draft :
> 
> I would like to get a sense of community interest for the following idea
> 
> Proposal
> 
> 
> Hold an off-site convention during the week of JavaOne to provide a
> venue
> for topics that didn't make the cut for JavaOne as well as topics that
> did,
> of course.  Examples include (imagination challenged right now...)
> 
>  o bastard J2EE technologies
>- template engines (could you guess I would suggest this ?)
>- publishing frameworks (Cocoon et al)
>- web app frameworks (Turbine, Maverick, Struts)
>- ?
> 
>  o mainstream technologies
>- web services (I want to hear Sam talk about Axis :)
>- XML-RPC 
>- ?
>  
>  o community discussions
>- JSPA issues
>- ?
> 
>  o other stuff
>- how about JDD talking about Objective C
>- Gump sociology
>- Maven
> 
> 
> Rationale
> -
> 
> There are a lot of interesting things in the world that Sun's marketing
> crew
> doesn't have space or interest for at JavaOne.   Many of these things
> are in
> daily production use by people, and it would be nice to hear about them.
> 
> Many developers will be in the area for this week, and if we could find
> a
> way to bring us together for both social interaction as well as learning
> about some of the topics we work on and are interested in, it seems like
> a
> win all around.
> 
> Thoughts
> 
> 
> We have an in with an event space in San Francisco (hey, Jon!) and from
> what
> I understand, it has two distinct spaces, one of which can serve
> alcohol.
> So we can divide, cleanly, the social space and the technical space. 
> Those
> in the social space can bring their own, I guess :)
> 
> However, I think if we do this, we should pay for the space (unless
> studio.tv wants the publicity :), and there lies a conflict of interest
> problem, but I assume that if the rate is competitive, as I am sure it
> will
> be, we can all look the other way.
> 
> I don't know if we have the time to pull it off - it would be nice to
> put
> something non-lame together.  I think we shouldn't be aggressive about
> this
> - find a spot in the schedule so people aren't torn between J1 and
> this...
> 
> 
> 



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RE: JakartaOne?

[Marc Saegesser]

I'll be out there for JavaOne and I'd love to get together with other
Jakarta folks.  I haven't worked out my whole schedule yet, but I'm not sure
how much time I'd have for an 'off-site convnention' (as cool as that
sounds).


Marc Saegesser 

> -Original Message-
> From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 5:15 AM
> To: Jakarta General List
> Subject: Re: JakartaOne?
> 
> 
> On 3/4/02 1:25 AM, "James Strachan" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > JavaOne is around the corner. Do any Jakarta folks fancy a 
> JavaOne get
> > together in a bar somewhere? Maybe Jon's new bar?
> > 
> 
> I was thinking about this earlier in feb, but wasn't sure we 
> had the time...
> 
> I wanted to call it 'OpenOne' (but 'JakartaOne' is nice...) 
> and use a space
> like Jon's where we could have both a social gathering as 
> well as some short
> technical talks on things that didn't make it into JavaOne 
> (for example, if
> it didn't have anything to do with XML or web services).
> 
> Here's what I had so far as a draft :
> 
> I would like to get a sense of community interest for the 
> following idea
> 
> Proposal
> 
> 
> Hold an off-site convention during the week of JavaOne to 
> provide a venue
> for topics that didn't make the cut for JavaOne as well as 
> topics that did,
> of course.  Examples include (imagination challenged right now...)
> 
>  o bastard J2EE technologies
>- template engines (could you guess I would suggest this ?)
>- publishing frameworks (Cocoon et al)
>- web app frameworks (Turbine, Maverick, Struts)
>- ?
> 
>  o mainstream technologies
>- web services (I want to hear Sam talk about Axis :)
>- XML-RPC 
>- ?
>  
>  o community discussions
>- JSPA issues
>- ?
> 
>  o other stuff
>- how about JDD talking about Objective C
>- Gump sociology
>- Maven
> 
> 
> Rationale
> -
> 
> There are a lot of interesting things in the world that Sun's 
> marketing crew
> doesn't have space or interest for at JavaOne.   Many of 
> these things are in
> daily production use by people, and it would be nice to hear 
> about them.
> 
> Many developers will be in the area for this week, and if we 
> could find a
> way to bring us together for both social interaction as well 
> as learning
> about some of the topics we work on and are interested in, it 
> seems like a
> win all around.
> 
> Thoughts
> 
> 
> We have an in with an event space in San Francisco (hey, 
> Jon!) and from what
> I understand, it has two distinct spaces, one of which can 
> serve alcohol.
> So we can divide, cleanly, the social space and the technical 
> space.  Those
> in the social space can bring their own, I guess :)
> 
> However, I think if we do this, we should pay for the space (unless
> studio.tv wants the publicity :), and there lies a conflict 
> of interest
> problem, but I assume that if the rate is competitive, as I 
> am sure it will
> be, we can all look the other way.
> 
> I don't know if we have the time to pull it off - it would be 
> nice to put
> something non-lame together.  I think we shouldn't be 
> aggressive about this
> - find a spot in the schedule so people aren't torn between 
> J1 and this...
> 
> 
> -- 
> Geir Magnusson Jr. 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> System and Software Consulting
> The bytecodes are language independent. - Sam Ruby  
> 
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RE: JakartaOne?

[Danny Angus]

>  However, if there were
> sufficient items of interest 

Isn't "two distinct spaces, one of which can serve alcohol" enough? ;-)

d.

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Re: JakartaOne?

[Andrew C. Oliver]

+1

On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 07:38, Sam Ruby wrote:
> Geir Magnusson wrote:
> >
> > - web services (I want to hear Sam talk about Axis :)
> 
> At the moment, I don't plan to be at JavaOne.  However, if there were
> sufficient items of interest (like a JakartaOne), I might change my mind.
> 
> - Sam Ruby
> 
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Re: JakartaOne?

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Geir Magnusson wrote:
>
> - web services (I want to hear Sam talk about Axis :)

At the moment, I don't plan to be at JavaOne.  However, if there were
sufficient items of interest (like a JakartaOne), I might change my mind.

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Re: JakartaOne?

[Geir Magnusson Jr.]

On 3/4/02 1:25 AM, "James Strachan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> JavaOne is around the corner. Do any Jakarta folks fancy a JavaOne get
> together in a bar somewhere? Maybe Jon's new bar?
> 

I was thinking about this earlier in feb, but wasn't sure we had the time...

I wanted to call it 'OpenOne' (but 'JakartaOne' is nice...) and use a space
like Jon's where we could have both a social gathering as well as some short
technical talks on things that didn't make it into JavaOne (for example, if
it didn't have anything to do with XML or web services).

Here's what I had so far as a draft :

I would like to get a sense of community interest for the following idea

Proposal


Hold an off-site convention during the week of JavaOne to provide a venue
for topics that didn't make the cut for JavaOne as well as topics that did,
of course.  Examples include (imagination challenged right now...)

 o bastard J2EE technologies
   - template engines (could you guess I would suggest this ?)
   - publishing frameworks (Cocoon et al)
   - web app frameworks (Turbine, Maverick, Struts)
   - ?

 o mainstream technologies
   - web services (I want to hear Sam talk about Axis :)
   - XML-RPC 
   - ?
 
 o community discussions
   - JSPA issues
   - ?

 o other stuff
   - how about JDD talking about Objective C
   - Gump sociology
   - Maven


Rationale
-

There are a lot of interesting things in the world that Sun's marketing crew
doesn't have space or interest for at JavaOne.   Many of these things are in
daily production use by people, and it would be nice to hear about them.

Many developers will be in the area for this week, and if we could find a
way to bring us together for both social interaction as well as learning
about some of the topics we work on and are interested in, it seems like a
win all around.

Thoughts


We have an in with an event space in San Francisco (hey, Jon!) and from what
I understand, it has two distinct spaces, one of which can serve alcohol.
So we can divide, cleanly, the social space and the technical space.  Those
in the social space can bring their own, I guess :)

However, I think if we do this, we should pay for the space (unless
studio.tv wants the publicity :), and there lies a conflict of interest
problem, but I assume that if the rate is competitive, as I am sure it will
be, we can all look the other way.

I don't know if we have the time to pull it off - it would be nice to put
something non-lame together.  I think we shouldn't be aggressive about this
- find a spot in the schedule so people aren't torn between J1 and this...


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Re: JakartaOne?

[Pier Fumagalli]

"James Strachan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> JavaOne is around the corner. Do any Jakarta folks fancy a JavaOne get
> together in a bar somewhere? Maybe Jon's new bar?

StudioZ would be cool... Too bad it's not _that_ close to the Moscone
(probably 10 blocks?) and too bad that I won't be able to be there... :(

Pier


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