Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-05 Thread Danny Angus
FYI James uses XSLT with no dependance on Anakia or Jakarta-site


On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 09:02:23 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
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 On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:
 
  On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:15:59 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:
 
  Looks like a *lot* of other projects use the Anakia jars and/or
  stylesheets from jakarta-site2 - not just jakarta-tomcat-site...so
  perhaps those need to be restored.
 
  Sites with the older lf:
 
  Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, ECS, JMeter, Lucene, ORO, Regexp, Slide, Tomcat,
  Watchdog.
 
  However, the following all appear to be self contained/non-users:
 
  Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, Watchdog, Slide.
 
  Sorry, should have remembered that, as it used to apply to jmeter...
 
  + JMeter.
 
  So the broken ones look like they are Tomcat, Regexp, ORO, Lucene, ECS.
 
 
  I did a search for the string jakarta-site2 in the build.xml,v files
  in CVS, and that produced quite a lot of hits (see
  http://www.apache.org/~sebb/js2.txt - note that the matched text is
  *followed* by the file name).
 
  Some of the matches relate to history items, but some are in the HEAD
  versions of the files, for example:
 
  http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ant/proposal/ant-site/anakia/build.xml?only_with_tag=HEADview=markup
 
  http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-commons/httpclient/build.xml?only_with_tag=HEADview=markup
 
  Of course we don't know if the build targets are actually still used,
  but it suggests that these files are rather more generally used.
 
 Both HttpClient and Ant appear to use Maven or Forrest for their sites
 though, so I'd think it's a pretty low chance that they still use things.
 
 I think all of Commons is Mavenised, and I checked all of Jakarta in this
 way to find old style lf and then examined those by hand. Looking at the
 graduated projects, Struts and James still look old style; so they've got
 a good chance of still using site2.
 
 Looking at them, both Struts and James appear to be on XSLT variants, but
 no use of the site2 jars or stylesheets.
 
 Still, not to say that others in your list don't use it, such as jyve or
 various proposals in James etc, just nothing 'big' I think.
 
 Hen
 
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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-03 Thread sebb
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:15:59 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:
 
  Looks like a *lot* of other projects use the Anakia jars and/or
  stylesheets from jakarta-site2 - not just jakarta-tomcat-site...so
  perhaps those need to be restored.
 
 Sites with the older lf:
 
 Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, ECS, JMeter, Lucene, ORO, Regexp, Slide, Tomcat,
 Watchdog.
 
 However, the following all appear to be self contained/non-users:
 
 Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, Watchdog, Slide.
 
  Sorry, should have remembered that, as it used to apply to jmeter...
 
 + JMeter.
 
 So the broken ones look like they are Tomcat, Regexp, ORO, Lucene, ECS.
 

I did a search for the string jakarta-site2 in the build.xml,v files
in CVS, and that produced quite a lot of hits (see
http://www.apache.org/~sebb/js2.txt - note that the matched text is
*followed* by the file name).

Some of the matches relate to history items, but some are in the HEAD
versions of the files, for example:

http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ant/proposal/ant-site/anakia/build.xml?only_with_tag=HEADview=markup

http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-commons/httpclient/build.xml?only_with_tag=HEADview=markup

Of course we don't know if the build targets are actually still used,
but it suggests that these files are rather more generally used.

 I've added the jars and the vsl back in. This is also our list of people
 that will have a problem when we migrate to SVN, but as they probably
 never change the site2 bits, they'll probably be happy with a read-only
 repository for a while.
 
 Regexp builds the docs now, so I'll trust the others are okay.
 
 Hen


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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-03 Thread Henri Yandell

On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:15:59 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:
Looks like a *lot* of other projects use the Anakia jars and/or
stylesheets from jakarta-site2 - not just jakarta-tomcat-site...so
perhaps those need to be restored.
Sites with the older lf:
Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, ECS, JMeter, Lucene, ORO, Regexp, Slide, Tomcat,
Watchdog.
However, the following all appear to be self contained/non-users:
Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, Watchdog, Slide.
Sorry, should have remembered that, as it used to apply to jmeter...
+ JMeter.
So the broken ones look like they are Tomcat, Regexp, ORO, Lucene, ECS.
I did a search for the string jakarta-site2 in the build.xml,v files
in CVS, and that produced quite a lot of hits (see
http://www.apache.org/~sebb/js2.txt - note that the matched text is
*followed* by the file name).
Some of the matches relate to history items, but some are in the HEAD
versions of the files, for example:
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ant/proposal/ant-site/anakia/build.xml?only_with_tag=HEADview=markup
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-commons/httpclient/build.xml?only_with_tag=HEADview=markup
Of course we don't know if the build targets are actually still used,
but it suggests that these files are rather more generally used.
Both HttpClient and Ant appear to use Maven or Forrest for their sites 
though, so I'd think it's a pretty low chance that they still use things.

I think all of Commons is Mavenised, and I checked all of Jakarta in this 
way to find old style lf and then examined those by hand. Looking at the 
graduated projects, Struts and James still look old style; so they've got 
a good chance of still using site2.

Looking at them, both Struts and James appear to be on XSLT variants, but 
no use of the site2 jars or stylesheets.

Still, not to say that others in your list don't use it, such as jyve or 
various proposals in James etc, just nothing 'big' I think.

Hen
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RE: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-03 Thread John Rasmussen
Henri,

I've followed these listings for some time, and as a member of a leading xml
aware networking organization, have wondered if my expertise and experience
could be of value.

I am especially adept at xslt.  Is there a need for contributions in this
arena?

Regards,


John Rasmussen
DataPower Technology, Inc.
One Alewife Center
Cambridge, MA 02140, US
Office: US +1 617.864.0455 x359
Fax: US +1 617.864.0458


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On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:

 On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:15:59 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:

 Looks like a *lot* of other projects use the Anakia jars and/or
 stylesheets from jakarta-site2 - not just jakarta-tomcat-site...so
 perhaps those need to be restored.

 Sites with the older lf:

 Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, ECS, JMeter, Lucene, ORO, Regexp, Slide, Tomcat,
 Watchdog.

 However, the following all appear to be self contained/non-users:

 Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, Watchdog, Slide.

 Sorry, should have remembered that, as it used to apply to jmeter...

 + JMeter.

 So the broken ones look like they are Tomcat, Regexp, ORO, Lucene, ECS.


 I did a search for the string jakarta-site2 in the build.xml,v files
 in CVS, and that produced quite a lot of hits (see
 http://www.apache.org/~sebb/js2.txt - note that the matched text is
 *followed* by the file name).

 Some of the matches relate to history items, but some are in the HEAD
 versions of the files, for example:


http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ant/proposal/ant-site/anakia/build.xml?onl
y_with_tag=HEADview=markup


http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-commons/httpclient/build.xml?only_
with_tag=HEADview=markup

 Of course we don't know if the build targets are actually still used,
 but it suggests that these files are rather more generally used.

Both HttpClient and Ant appear to use Maven or Forrest for their sites 
though, so I'd think it's a pretty low chance that they still use things.

I think all of Commons is Mavenised, and I checked all of Jakarta in this 
way to find old style lf and then examined those by hand. Looking at the 
graduated projects, Struts and James still look old style; so they've got 
a good chance of still using site2.

Looking at them, both Struts and James appear to be on XSLT variants, but 
no use of the site2 jars or stylesheets.

Still, not to say that others in your list don't use it, such as jyve or 
various proposals in James etc, just nothing 'big' I think.

Hen

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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-03 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3 Jan 2005, at 00:15, Henri Yandell wrote:

On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:
Looks like a *lot* of other projects use the Anakia jars and/or
stylesheets from jakarta-site2 - not just jakarta-tomcat-site...so
perhaps those need to be restored.
Sites with the older lf:
Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, ECS, JMeter, Lucene, ORO, Regexp, Slide, 
Tomcat, Watchdog.

However, the following all appear to be self contained/non-users:
Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, Watchdog, Slide.
Sorry, should have remembered that, as it used to apply to jmeter...
+ JMeter.
So the broken ones look like they are Tomcat, Regexp, ORO, Lucene, ECS.
the ECS web site build is bust anyway. (i have to manually hack stuff 
whenever i need to change it.) could do with a tidy up after the move 
to subversion.

- robert
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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-03 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3 Jan 2005, at 14:25, John Rasmussen wrote:
Henri,
I've followed these listings for some time, and as a member of a 
leading xml
aware networking organization, have wondered if my expertise and 
experience
could be of value.
expertise and experience are always valued here :)
I am especially adept at xslt.  Is there a need for contributions in 
this
arena?
any suggestions for improvements will be eagerly listened to. (perhaps 
henri may like to jump in with any specific task's he has in mind...)

the reason these discussions are on a public list is so that anyone in 
the jakarta community (whether users, developers, committers, pmc'ers 
or members) can contribute to the discussion and help build a better 
jakarta.

thanks for speaking up and i'd like to extend an open invitation to any 
other lurkers who've been waiting for a reason to join in...

- robert
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RE: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-03 Thread Noel J. Bergman
sebb wrote:
 Looks like a *lot* of other projects use the Anakia jars and/or
 stylesheets from jakarta-site2 - not just jakarta-tomcat-site.

Including, FWIW, JAMES (ex-Jakarta project).  But we can clone what we need
until/if we replace it.

--- Noel


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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-03 Thread Martin Cooper
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 09:02:23 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:
 
  On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:15:59 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:
 
  Looks like a *lot* of other projects use the Anakia jars and/or
  stylesheets from jakarta-site2 - not just jakarta-tomcat-site...so
  perhaps those need to be restored.
 
  Sites with the older lf:
 
  Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, ECS, JMeter, Lucene, ORO, Regexp, Slide, Tomcat,
  Watchdog.
 
  However, the following all appear to be self contained/non-users:
 
  Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, Watchdog, Slide.
 
  Sorry, should have remembered that, as it used to apply to jmeter...
 
  + JMeter.
 
  So the broken ones look like they are Tomcat, Regexp, ORO, Lucene, ECS.
 
 
  I did a search for the string jakarta-site2 in the build.xml,v files
  in CVS, and that produced quite a lot of hits (see
  http://www.apache.org/~sebb/js2.txt - note that the matched text is
  *followed* by the file name).
 
  Some of the matches relate to history items, but some are in the HEAD
  versions of the files, for example:
 
  http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ant/proposal/ant-site/anakia/build.xml?only_with_tag=HEADview=markup
 
  http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-commons/httpclient/build.xml?only_with_tag=HEADview=markup
 
  Of course we don't know if the build targets are actually still used,
  but it suggests that these files are rather more generally used.
 
 Both HttpClient and Ant appear to use Maven or Forrest for their sites
 though, so I'd think it's a pretty low chance that they still use things.
 
 I think all of Commons is Mavenised, and I checked all of Jakarta in this
 way to find old style lf and then examined those by hand. Looking at the
 graduated projects, Struts and James still look old style; so they've got
 a good chance of still using site2.
 
 Looking at them, both Struts and James appear to be on XSLT variants, but
 no use of the site2 jars or stylesheets.

WRT Struts, it does not depend on site2. Its site generation is self-contained.

--
Martin Cooper


 Still, not to say that others in your list don't use it, such as jyve or
 various proposals in James etc, just nothing 'big' I think.
 
 Hen
 
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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-03 Thread Henri Yandell

On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote:
On 3 Jan 2005, at 14:25, John Rasmussen wrote:
Henri,
I've followed these listings for some time, and as a member of a leading 
xml
aware networking organization, have wondered if my expertise and experience
could be of value.
expertise and experience are always valued here :)
You mean you could know more than the O'Reilly XSLT book that I have to 
pour through to remind myself of simple changes? :)

Any help is very welcome. The only one that leaps to mind right now is the 
Ant xslt task, where I'm having to c+p a bit more than I want to. So not 
really an xslt problem. Seb's recent suggestions fixed the major xslt 
problems I was facing.

However, I'll start to compile a list; or you could take a look at 
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-site2/xdocs/stylesheets/site.xsl?view=markup 
and let us know what's screwy.

There's obviously a lot that needs to move into CSS. I've a set of changes 
for the 3-tier version that aren't checked in yet; though as I screwed up 
it is viewable in an older version:

http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-site2/xdocs/stylesheets/site.xsl?rev=1.15view=markup
It's generally not much different. project.xml changes to site.xml and I 
modify that to have navbar elements. The site/logo bit needs to be removed 
too.

the reason these discussions are on a public list is so that anyone in the 
jakarta community (whether users, developers, committers, pmc'ers or members) 
can contribute to the discussion and help build a better jakarta.

thanks for speaking up and i'd like to extend an open invitation to any other 
lurkers who've been waiting for a reason to join in...
+1
Hen
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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-03 Thread Mark Thomas
Mark Thomas wrote:
Thanks for the offer of help. I was planning at looking at this 
tomorrow. I was going to look in CVS to see what you changed on 
jakarta-site2 and go from there. If anything doesn't make sense I'll let 
you know.
FYI: The Tomcat site now builds (via ANT and XLST) without the need for 
jakarta-site2. There is plenty of scope for streamlining the build but 
that is rather lower priority.

Mark
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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-02 Thread sebb
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 23:07:05 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:
 
  On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 19:50:10 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I've fixed the various spacing issues in the XSLT system (over time the
  Anakia style sheet changed slightly) and as far as I can tell it looks the
  same.
 
  BTW, the source files don't look the same - but that is an advantage,
  as the Anakia output was not all that well laid out.
 
 The XSLT version is a bit of a pain in that it's not doing newlines; I
 think it's quite easy to get them to stay I just need to remember how.

Changing indent to yes makes the output a bit easier to read.

 
 I spent a lot of time hacking the html pages in debugging to find out that
 not having the DOCTYPE at the top causes some weird spacing issues :)
 
  If the old version is needed however, it is tagged under the tag
  PRE-ANAKIA-REMOVAL.
 
  If anyone can take a look and see if they can see problems, I'd appreciate
  it a lot. New years day means not a lot of users looking compared to usual
  (though also not a lot of committers around to check etc).
 
  I've not noticed any visible browsing errors in a brief check.
  The JMeter binary and source links work fine.
 
  However, the base tags have disappeared from the binindex and
  sourceindex output.
 
  I don't know if these are required or not - could it be that some
  mirror sites require them?
 
  If they are not required, that is an advantage, as it means that
  internal page links work much quicker. Dunno why, but it seems that
  the base tag causes intermal links to be treated as being on a new
  page, so the whole lot is reloaded...
 
 I'd been wondering why that was happening.
 
 There's nothing in either the comment history for either site.vsl or
 binindex.xml to imply that the base was put in for any special reason.
 
 However, Stefan Bodewig added the functionality for base tags into
 site.vsl in 1.27 with a comment of:
 
 Enable downloads via mirrors
 
 which suggests that it's probably important.
 
 I'll get it added back in, #1 priority. In fact, I'll hack it by hand
 first and figure out how to xsl it second :)
 
  Another difference on the downloads pages (at least) is that the meta
  tags aren't closed.
  The Anakia stylesheet used to close these by including a trailing /;
  looks like the XSL version never did.
 
  Perhaps it should?
 
 Bizarre that they're not closed given that XSL has to be XML compliant.

The tags are closed in the XSL sheet. Seems to depend on the output format.

Looks like the transformation process knows which html tags have
end-tags and which don't, as adding a dummy tag
xyz name=abc/ 
to site.xsl results in the output containing 
xyz name=abc/xyz.

However, if the xsl:output method is set to xhtml, the output is 
xyz name=abc /

 I'll look into fixing this, lesser priority.
 

Changing the output method to xhtml seems to have the desired effect
on the meta tags, but I don't know if this will have any other side
effects.

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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-02 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 2 Jan 2005, at 13:07, sebb wrote:
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 23:07:05 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
I'll look into fixing this, lesser priority.
Changing the output method to xhtml seems to have the desired effect
on the meta tags, but I don't know if this will have any other side
effects.
having the site in xhtml would be very good so i'd recommend switching 
the output to that.

- robert
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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-02 Thread sebb
A couple of other matters probably need to be attended to before the
conversion is complete:

- make xslt the default ant target
- change the xslt output dir to docs

The Anakia sections in build.xml could be removed, as could
bin/velocity.jar - in fact I'm not sure *any* of the jars are needed
once Anakia is no longer used.
And then the classpath could be removed from build.xml

build.bat, build.sh and cpappend.bat are also unnecessary - so long as
Ant is installed on the OS path. This is independent of whether Anakia
support is left in build.xml.

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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-02 Thread Henri Yandell

On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:
A couple of other matters probably need to be attended to before the
conversion is complete:
- make xslt the default ant target
- change the xslt output dir to docs
Both already done and committed.
The Anakia sections in build.xml could be removed, as could
bin/velocity.jar - in fact I'm not sure *any* of the jars are needed
once Anakia is no longer used.
And then the classpath could be removed from build.xml
It's already gone :) All the jars went, I changed build.xml to say JDK 1.4 
was required (it might be 1.3; need to test that at some point).

build.bat, build.sh and cpappend.bat are also unnecessary - so long as
Ant is installed on the OS path. This is independent of whether Anakia
support is left in build.xml.
You always have one that I miss :) I agree that these are pretty killable.
Hen
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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-02 Thread Henri Yandell
Argh, I'm pathetic. Hadn't committed the lib/ removal and build.xml 
update.

One drink owed to sebb.
Hen
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, Henri Yandell wrote:

On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:
A couple of other matters probably need to be attended to before the
conversion is complete:
- make xslt the default ant target
- change the xslt output dir to docs
Both already done and committed.
The Anakia sections in build.xml could be removed, as could
bin/velocity.jar - in fact I'm not sure *any* of the jars are needed
once Anakia is no longer used.
And then the classpath could be removed from build.xml
It's already gone :) All the jars went, I changed build.xml to say JDK 1.4 
was required (it might be 1.3; need to test that at some point).

build.bat, build.sh and cpappend.bat are also unnecessary - so long as
Ant is installed on the OS path. This is independent of whether Anakia
support is left in build.xml.
You always have one that I miss :) I agree that these are pretty killable.
Hen
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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-02 Thread sebb
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 11:54:22 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
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 On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:
 
  A couple of other matters probably need to be attended to before the
  conversion is complete:
 
  - make xslt the default ant target
  - change the xslt output dir to docs
 
 Both already done and committed.

Are you sure?

They still seem to be in CVS.

 
  The Anakia sections in build.xml could be removed, as could
  bin/velocity.jar - in fact I'm not sure *any* of the jars are needed
  once Anakia is no longer used.
  And then the classpath could be removed from build.xml
 
 It's already gone :) All the jars went, I changed build.xml to say JDK 1.4
 was required (it might be 1.3; need to test that at some point).
 

Are you sure this has been committed?

  build.bat, build.sh and cpappend.bat are also unnecessary - so long as
  Ant is installed on the OS path. This is independent of whether Anakia
  support is left in build.xml.
 
 You always have one that I miss :) I agree that these are pretty killable.
 

I see you've done the deed ...

 Hen


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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-02 Thread Mark Thomas
Henri Yandell wrote:
I've removed the Website Maintenance link too, it no longer makes much 
sense and nobody seemed to mind the suggestion of killing it.  It has 
(the page isn't gone yet, just the link) a lot of stuff about using 
jakarta-site2 as a system for other sites (I thought somebody mentioned 
Tomcat did this, but looking at their CVS repo I can't see references to 
jakarta-site2).
There is a reference in jakarta-tomcat-site\build.bat (and build.sh). At 
the moment the tomcat site won't build using CVS HEAD.

If the old version is needed however, it is tagged under the tag 
PRE-ANAKIA-REMOVAL.
And this is the obvious work-around until one of us takes a look at this.
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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-02 Thread Henri Yandell

On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, Mark Thomas wrote:
Henri Yandell wrote:
I've removed the Website Maintenance link too, it no longer makes much 
sense and nobody seemed to mind the suggestion of killing it.  It has (the 
page isn't gone yet, just the link) a lot of stuff about using 
jakarta-site2 as a system for other sites (I thought somebody mentioned 
Tomcat did this, but looking at their CVS repo I can't see references to 
jakarta-site2).
There is a reference in jakarta-tomcat-site\build.bat (and build.sh). At the 
moment the tomcat site won't build using CVS HEAD.
Ack, sorry. I didn't think to look in the scripts, just the build.xml.
If the old version is needed however, it is tagged under the tag 
PRE-ANAKIA-REMOVAL.
And this is the obvious work-around until one of us takes a look at this.
Let me know if I can do anything to help; I obviously don't intend to go 
breaking things for any of the subprojects.

Hen
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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-02 Thread Mark Thomas
Henri Yandell wrote:
Ack, sorry. I didn't think to look in the scripts, just the build.xml.
No problem. I can easily build stuff using the PRE-ANAKIA-REMOVAL tag.
Let me know if I can do anything to help; I obviously don't intend to go 
breaking things for any of the subprojects.
Thanks for the offer of help. I was planning at looking at this 
tomorrow. I was going to look in CVS to see what you changed on 
jakarta-site2 and go from there. If anything doesn't make sense I'll let 
you know.

BTW, I was going to tackle the rest of the nagoya renaming issues at the 
same time.

Mark
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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-02 Thread sebb
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 13:52:40 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
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 On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, Mark Thomas wrote:
 
  Henri Yandell wrote:
  I've removed the Website Maintenance link too, it no longer makes much
  sense and nobody seemed to mind the suggestion of killing it.  It has (the
  page isn't gone yet, just the link) a lot of stuff about using
  jakarta-site2 as a system for other sites (I thought somebody mentioned
  Tomcat did this, but looking at their CVS repo I can't see references to
  jakarta-site2).
 
  There is a reference in jakarta-tomcat-site\build.bat (and build.sh). At the
  moment the tomcat site won't build using CVS HEAD.
 
 Ack, sorry. I didn't think to look in the scripts, just the build.xml.
 
  If the old version is needed however, it is tagged under the tag
  PRE-ANAKIA-REMOVAL.
 
  And this is the obvious work-around until one of us takes a look at this.
 
 Let me know if I can do anything to help; I obviously don't intend to go
 breaking things for any of the subprojects.

Looks like a *lot* of other projects use the Anakia jars and/or
stylesheets from jakarta-site2 - not just jakarta-tomcat-site...so
perhaps those need to be restored.

Sorry, should have remembered that, as it used to apply to jmeter...

 
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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-02 Thread Henri Yandell

On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:
Looks like a *lot* of other projects use the Anakia jars and/or
stylesheets from jakarta-site2 - not just jakarta-tomcat-site...so
perhaps those need to be restored.
Sites with the older lf:
Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, ECS, JMeter, Lucene, ORO, Regexp, Slide, Tomcat, 
Watchdog.

However, the following all appear to be self contained/non-users:
Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, Watchdog, Slide.
Sorry, should have remembered that, as it used to apply to jmeter...
+ JMeter.
So the broken ones look like they are Tomcat, Regexp, ORO, Lucene, ECS.
I've added the jars and the vsl back in. This is also our list of people 
that will have a problem when we migrate to SVN, but as they probably 
never change the site2 bits, they'll probably be happy with a read-only 
repository for a while.

Regexp builds the docs now, so I'll trust the others are okay.
Hen
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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-01 Thread sebb
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 19:50:10 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I've fixed the various spacing issues in the XSLT system (over time the
 Anakia style sheet changed slightly) and as far as I can tell it looks the
 same.

BTW, the source files don't look the same - but that is an advantage,
as the Anakia output was not all that well laid out.
 
 I cautiously pushed a few pages up to check them out and then the whole
 lot. Still looks fine to me :) At least from the front page and linked
 pages, might be some deeper pages with issues that won't be picked up
 until we get around to deciding if they should exist (which is soon).
 
 I've removed the Website Maintenance link too, it no longer makes much
 sense and nobody seemed to mind the suggestion of killing it.  It has (the
 page isn't gone yet, just the link) a lot of stuff about using
 jakarta-site2 as a system for other sites (I thought somebody mentioned
 Tomcat did this, but looking at their CVS repo I can't see references to
 jakarta-site2).
 
 If the old version is needed however, it is tagged under the tag
 PRE-ANAKIA-REMOVAL.
 
 If anyone can take a look and see if they can see problems, I'd appreciate
 it a lot. New years day means not a lot of users looking compared to usual
 (though also not a lot of committers around to check etc).

I've not noticed any visible browsing errors in a brief check. 
The JMeter binary and source links work fine.

However, the base tags have disappeared from the binindex and
sourceindex output.

I don't know if these are required or not - could it be that some
mirror sites require them?

If they are not required, that is an advantage, as it means that
internal page links work much quicker. Dunno why, but it seems that
the base tag causes intermal links to be treated as being on a new
page, so the whole lot is reloaded...

Another difference on the downloads pages (at least) is that the meta
tags aren't closed.
The Anakia stylesheet used to close these by including a trailing /;
looks like the XSL version never did.

Perhaps it should?

 
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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-01 Thread Henri Yandell

On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 19:50:10 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've fixed the various spacing issues in the XSLT system (over time the
Anakia style sheet changed slightly) and as far as I can tell it looks the
same.
BTW, the source files don't look the same - but that is an advantage,
as the Anakia output was not all that well laid out.
The XSLT version is a bit of a pain in that it's not doing newlines; I 
think it's quite easy to get them to stay I just need to remember how.

I spent a lot of time hacking the html pages in debugging to find out that 
not having the DOCTYPE at the top causes some weird spacing issues :)

If the old version is needed however, it is tagged under the tag
PRE-ANAKIA-REMOVAL.
If anyone can take a look and see if they can see problems, I'd appreciate
it a lot. New years day means not a lot of users looking compared to usual
(though also not a lot of committers around to check etc).
I've not noticed any visible browsing errors in a brief check.
The JMeter binary and source links work fine.
However, the base tags have disappeared from the binindex and
sourceindex output.
I don't know if these are required or not - could it be that some
mirror sites require them?
If they are not required, that is an advantage, as it means that
internal page links work much quicker. Dunno why, but it seems that
the base tag causes intermal links to be treated as being on a new
page, so the whole lot is reloaded...
I'd been wondering why that was happening.
There's nothing in either the comment history for either site.vsl or 
binindex.xml to imply that the base was put in for any special reason.

However, Stefan Bodewig added the functionality for base tags into 
site.vsl in 1.27 with a comment of:

Enable downloads via mirrors
which suggests that it's probably important.
I'll get it added back in, #1 priority. In fact, I'll hack it by hand 
first and figure out how to xsl it second :)

Another difference on the downloads pages (at least) is that the meta
tags aren't closed.
The Anakia stylesheet used to close these by including a trailing /;
looks like the XSL version never did.
Perhaps it should?
Bizarre that they're not closed given that XSL has to be XML compliant. 
I'll look into fixing this, lesser priority.

Thanks,
Hen
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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-01 Thread Henri Yandell

On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, Henri Yandell wrote:

On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:
However, the base tags have disappeared from the binindex and
sourceindex output.
I don't know if these are required or not - could it be that some
mirror sites require them?
They're back now.
Hen
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