Re: [gentoo-dev] Devconference archives
On Monday 15 August 2005 05:25, Corey Shields wrote: Archive links for the complete morning and afternoon sessions are at http://devconference.gentoo.org -Corey Hi Corey (and IU), Thanks a lot! Is it possible to download the media-files instead of streaming? This makes it a lot easier to skip/replay some parts of the session. Regards, Michiel. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] revdep-rebuild
maillog: 14/08/2005-21:16:01(-0700): Stefan Jones types Stefan Jones wrote: So I have started making a small C program which does the Checking dynamic linking consistency... part of the revdep-rebuild program (I think this the the most time intensive part). This program can then be called by the script. So far all I see the program needing to do is read /root/.revdep-rebuild.1_files and use /root/.revdep-rebuild.2_ldpath as the LD_LIBRARY_PATH and write any bad files to /root/.revdep-rebuild.3_rebuild I have finished doing the above for linux/glibc, it can be found at http://dev.gentoo.org/~cretin/revdep-rebuild.tar.bz2 I just made a small C-program to check the dependencies, it uses ld-linux.so.2 check if the file is an ELF and then to check if it's libraries are present. On x86-64 the native ELFs do not use ld-linux.so.2, but ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 instead. -- ) Georgi Georgiev) I'd put my money where my mouth is, but my) ( [EMAIL PROTECTED]( mouth keeps moving. -- Larry Wall in ( ) +81(90)2877-8845) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Devconference archives
Corey Shields wrote: PS - For those who are emailing me about using the Real Media codec. Just for the record, i didn't, but the topic raises some questions for me. Really really not intended as a flamebait to raise a debate on principles. Just asking. Yes, I realize it is a proprietary format, but it is one that we as a distribution support, so if you wish to protest the webcast it is your loss. Support in the terms of decoding but also encoding? I could only find decoders - and only for x86 and amd64 (media-video/realplayer). When I sent a call for help with this conference, IU offered their services. Nobody else did, and despite that nobody else could handle the capacity that they could. If it is offensive to people to do it in real, we will skip the webcasting next time. That's very nice from IU for sure and especially if there are not many (read: one) options to choose from the outcome is pretty obvious. However, i'm not sure what our Social Contract says about it. It seems to deal with the operating system itself, but there seem to be no implications about anything else. So in theory we could host the whole www.gentoo.org stuff on IIS servers? cheers, Wernfried PS: I think my first reply was eaten due to some address mismatch, if you get it later, please disregard sorry. -- Wernfried Haas (amne) Gentoo Forums: http://forums.gentoo.org Contact the forums team: IRC: #gentoo-forums on freenode or forum-mods at gentoo dot org -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Devconference archives
Fernando J. Pereda wrote: If it is that important to you then please organize it the next time or re-code all those audio files. Please re-read my previous mail: I wrote: Just for the record, i didn't, but the topic raises some questions for me. Really really not intended as a flamebait to raise a debate on principles. Just asking. So, no, the devconference isn't _that_ important to me, but if there should really be much interest to recode the files i can help if someone asks me to. Anyway, if you re-read my mail you may notice it raises some general questions. But don't bitch about it if you haven't helped. As a matter of fact i wasn't bitching, but i really think the questions i asked were valid and of interest. What's with that if-you-didn't-help-and-just-stop-bitching-TIA-attitude anyway? Are we using it these days to stop every discussion we don't like as soon it comes from someone who hasn't helped in that very project? cheers, Wernfried -- Wernfried Haas (amne) Gentoo Forums: http://forums.gentoo.org Contact the forums team: IRC: #gentoo-forums on freenode or forum-mods at gentoo dot org -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Devconference archives
On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 11:16:10AM +0200, Wernfried Haas wrote: That's very nice from IU for sure and especially if there are not many (read: one) options to choose from the outcome is pretty obvious. However, i'm not sure what our Social Contract says about it. It seems to deal with the operating system itself, but there seem to be no implications about anything else. So in theory we could host the whole www.gentoo.org stuff on IIS servers? Sure. The contract tells our users that we will never depend on non-free stuff, so the continuance of the distribution is guaranteed. But Gentoo can surely use propriatary products. Whether or not we want to is a different question. Wkr, Sven Vermeulen -- Documentation project leader - Gentoo Foundation Trustee The Gentoo Projecthttp://www.gentoo.org pgp5Ev8262LeA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] revdep-rebuild
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 17:18 +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote: On x86-64 the native ELFs do not use ld-linux.so.2, but ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 instead. Okey, thanks, using /usr/include/gnu/lib-names.h would soon sort out that problem at compile time! Stefan -- Stefan Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] revdep-rebuild
maillog: 15/08/2005-07:25:36(-0700): Stefan Jones types On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 17:18 +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote: On x86-64 the native ELFs do not use ld-linux.so.2, but ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 instead. Okey, thanks, using /usr/include/gnu/lib-names.h would soon sort out that problem at compile time! I hope you do intend to support both types of executables on amd64. After all the current method with ldd works fine for both and I guess you don't want any regression. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ldd /bin/ls librt.so.1 = /lib/librt.so.1 (0x2abc3000) libncurses.so.5 = /lib/libncurses.so.5 (0x2accc000) libacl.so.1 = /lib/libacl.so.1 (0x2ae27000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x2af2e000) libpthread.so.0 = /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x2b166000) /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x2aaab000) libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x2b27c000) libattr.so.1 = /lib/libattr.so.1 (0x2b37f000) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ldd /opt/RealPlayer/realplay.bin linux-gate.so.1 = (0xe000) libstdc++.so.5 = /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 (0x55589000) libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 = /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x5563c000) libatk-1.0.so.0 = /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0 (0x556b6000) libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 = /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 (0x556ce000) libm.so.6 = /lib32/libm.so.6 (0x556e3000) libpangoxft-1.0.so.0 = /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so.0 (0x5570a000) libpangox-1.0.so.0 = /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libpangox-1.0.so.0 (0x55711000) libpango-1.0.so.0 = /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0 (0x5571c000) libgobject-2.0.so.0 = /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 (0x55754000) libgmodule-2.0.so.0 = /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 (0x55786000) libdl.so.2 = /lib32/libdl.so.2 (0x5578a000) libglib-2.0.so.0 = /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x5578f000) libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 = /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x5580d000) libpthread.so.0 = /lib32/libpthread.so.0 (0x55ad5000) libc.so.6 = /lib32/libc.so.6 (0x55ae8000) libX11.so.6 = /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x55c1c000) libgcc_s.so.1 = /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.4/32/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x55ce6000) libXrandr.so.2 = /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libXrandr.so.2 (0x55cf) libXi.so.6 = /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x55cf3000) libXinerama.so.1 = /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libXinerama.so.1 (0x55cfb000) libXft.so.2 = /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libXft.so.2 (0x55cfe000) libfreetype.so.6 = /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0x55d1) libfontconfig.so.1 = /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x55d8) libXfixes.so.3 = /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libXfixes.so.3 (0x55da7000) libXcursor.so.1 = /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1 (0x55dac000) libXrender.so.1 = /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x55db5000) libXext.so.6 = /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x55dbd000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x5000) libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 = /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 (0x55dcc000) libexpat.so.0 = /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libexpat.so.0 (0x55df1000) libz.so.1 = /emul/linux/x86/lib/libz.so.1 (0x55e11000) -- \/ Georgi Georgiev \/ You must be the change you wish to see in\/ /\[EMAIL PROTECTED]/\ the world. --Mahatma Gandhi /\ \/ +81(90)2877-8845 \/ \/ -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] revdep-rebuild
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 23:35 +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote: I hope you do intend to support both types of executables on amd64. After all the current method with ldd works fine for both and I guess you don't want any regression. A quick look at /usr/bin/ldd shows that is just goes though using both dynamic linkers and sees which one works. This could be done for amd64 I suppose. But first I have an idea to only use scanelf (but that may have issues with 32/64 combined userspaces) which I would want to implement. -- Stefan Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] modular X porting howto
On Sun, 2005-08-14 at 13:41 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: If there's anything I can add to help you out, just let me know. What do I RDEPEND on if the app is statically linked, but requires a local X server to connect to, like many binary games require? -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead/QA Manager Games - Developer Gentoo Linux signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-osx] Package testing -- Automated initiative
On Sun, 2005-08-14 at 14:22 -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: multiple instances on a 128-node x86 cluster (1/node). There are one or two things I'd like to change in Catalyst, as they currently make it slightly dangerous for your system. If for some reason an ebuild goes wrong, the bind mounts allow it access into your core system, namely /dev and $DISTDIR and it really hurts to have a bunch of /dev erased on a box that you don't have quick physical access to (I toasted a few cluster nodes due to a bug in some scripts this way, but luckily I could force a remote reinstall). I accept patches. *grin* By the way, I am working to get catalyst running on OSX, so version 2.0 will definite suit your needs when it is released. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead/QA Manager Games - Developer Gentoo Linux signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-osx] Package testing -- Automated initiative
Chris Gianelloni wrote: By the way, I am working to get catalyst running on OSX, so version 2.0 will definite suit your needs when it is released. If you need help on OSX specific things, be sure to contact us... -- Fabian Groffen eBuild Porting Gentoo for Mac OS X -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-osx] Package testing -- Automated initiative
On Aug 15, 2005, at 10:39 AM, Grobian wrote: Chris Gianelloni wrote: By the way, I am working to get catalyst running on OSX, so version 2.0 will definite suit your needs when it is released. Very cool. I had 1.x nearly working a while back...haven't looked at 2.0 yet. If you need help on OSX specific things, be sure to contact us... Indeed. -- Fabian Groffen eBuild Porting Gentoo for Mac OS X -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] modular X porting howto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Gianelloni wrote: | What do I RDEPEND on if the app is statically linked, but requires a | local X server to connect to, like many binary games require? xorg-server is the package providing the servers. Alternately, there's kdrive in the tree now, and I should soon be adding an updated version of that renamed to xserver once I convince latexer or twp to add the new glitz. Or the old xorg-x11. Or xdirectfb. Think that's all ... I'll add a note on servers to the guide. Thanks, Donnie -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDAMZfXVaO67S1rtsRAoBKAJwNe6vePmuOOEIBRauD5GuClc+EXgCg2H/j ybDA4tYVJVyCwKdFuVuAlas= =vplw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] modular X porting howto
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 09:48 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: | Chris Gianelloni wrote: | | What do I RDEPEND on if the app is statically linked, but requires a | | local X server to connect to, like many binary games require? | | xorg-server is the package providing the servers. Alternately, there's | kdrive in the tree now, and I should soon be adding an updated version | of that renamed to xserver once I convince latexer or twp to add the new | glitz. Or the old xorg-x11. Or xdirectfb. Oh yeah. If this X server isn't actually required to complete the installation, please don't add it to the dependencies. That breaks things for people interested in running applications over the network. They only require the libraries and headers locally. I was referring to games that require a local X server, which is pretty much all of the binary games, especially OpenGL-based ones. For anything non-OpenGL or source-based, the dependencies would be explicit on the libraries needed. Now, if any of you have some secret that allows games like Enemy Territory to display to a remote machine, I'd love to hear them. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead/QA Manager Games - Developer Gentoo Linux signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-osx] Package testing -- Automated initiative
On Aug 15, 2005, at 12:07 PM, Chris Gianelloni wrote: I managed to get it to work once I made some dirty hacks to account for uname being different, and removing dependencies on /proc... once inside the chroot, it's Linux anyway, so none of the BSDism's are an issue. Ok, let me know if you want/need an account on our little dev machine for testing anything. Note: I am talking about being able to *run* catalyst on OSX, not build OSX targets with catalyst. I'm sure that support would be something we added later as the project matured. Yeah of course, I wasn't expecting you to work miracles ;) For the package testing stuff, I should have a stage1 tarball done in the coming weeks(months?) that could be used to do proper chroot'd builds for Darwin/OS X. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead/QA Manager Games - Developer Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] modular X porting howto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Gianelloni wrote: | I was referring to games that require a local X server, which is pretty | much all of the binary games, especially OpenGL-based ones. For | anything non-OpenGL or source-based, the dependencies would be explicit | on the libraries needed. | | Now, if any of you have some secret that allows games like Enemy | Territory to display to a remote machine, I'd love to hear them. Something like DMX+Chromium, to get you acceleration. FWIW, DMX is already integrated into XOrg. http://dmx.sourceforge.net/ http://chromium.sourceforge.net/ Donnie -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDANB8XVaO67S1rtsRArXAAKCLMQsiACeIqrf97HcqUahGFjdY6QCfXRFo IkcSrhk8MGByg6bEV07ZzJc= =kOxF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] flat profiles punted (and a note about x86/OpenBSD)
On Monday 15 August 2005 01:37 am, Alec Warner wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: as previously mentioned, i've punted all the flat profiles since the 2005.1 release since it seems like no one is using x86-obsd, can their team (if there is one) please create the proper cascading profiles for those of you looking to upgrade older portage versions, profiles/obsolete/ARCH/ exists for you -mike If you haven't done so already, might want to fire off a mail to -user as well. someone should forward my mail then ... i stopped subscribing to that list long ago :/ -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] revdep-rebuild
On Monday 15 August 2005 10:49 am, Stefan Jones wrote: On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 23:35 +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote: I hope you do intend to support both types of executables on amd64. After all the current method with ldd works fine for both and I guess you don't want any regression. But first I have an idea to only use scanelf (but that may have issues with 32/64 combined userspaces) which I would want to implement. no, it doesnt ... scanelf can handle any ELF format regardless of endian/bitsize of the host or target or any combo thereof you can scan 32bit MSB ARM ELF's from a host 64bit LSB X86_64 host just as easily as say from a 32bit MSB PARISC host -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] flat profiles punted (and a note about x86/OpenBSD)
On Monday 15 August 2005 04:52 am, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Monday 15 August 2005 04:20, Mike Frysinger wrote: since it seems like no one is using x86-obsd, can their team (if there is one) please create the proper cascading profiles x86-obsd keyword is now removed, also to avoid annoying warnings to all devs that a valid profile was missing. Next time please inform us in advanse so that we can act before all devs get full of useless warnings ;) technically i warned of the impending flat-profile doom twice before and well in advance of the 2005.1 release :p -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] flat profiles punted (and a note about x86/OpenBSD)
On Monday 15 August 2005 21:59, Mike Frysinger wrote: technically i warned of the impending flat-profile doom twice before and well in advance of the 2005.1 release :p I never read a x86-obsd is going to lose its just and only valid profile :P A bug is usually a better way to track this down, tho. -- Diego Flameeyes Pettenò Gentoo Developer - http://dev.gentoo.org/~flameeyes/ (Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, Gentoo/AMD64, Sound, PAM) pgps2DZl9zaIl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] revdep-rebuild
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 15:57 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: But first I have an idea to only use scanelf (but that may have issues with 32/64 combined userspaces) which I would want to implement. no, it doesnt ... scanelf can handle any ELF format regardless of endian/bitsize of the host or target or any combo thereof you can scan 32bit MSB ARM ELF's from a host 64bit LSB X86_64 host just as easily as say from a 32bit MSB PARISC host Sorry, was not clear enough, a 32bit library cannot resolve a 64bit dependency. So when you read in the available libraries and there dependencies you need to keep track of which type they are. Anyway, the -i flag to scanelf fixes that and other issues, just group all the data from scanelf by interpreter (so have multiple hashes, one for each interp). Stefan -- Stefan Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] flat profiles punted (and a note about x86/OpenBSD)
On Monday 15 August 2005 04:14 pm, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Monday 15 August 2005 21:59, Mike Frysinger wrote: technically i warned of the impending flat-profile doom twice before and well in advance of the 2005.1 release :p I never read a x86-obsd is going to lose its just and only valid profile :P A bug is usually a better way to track this down, tho. no, i never named a thread with obsd in its name, but you'd think if the obsd port was active they'd go 'hey, i have a flat profile, and my profile is in that list !' so, in the end, we all suck :p -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] revdep-rebuild
On Monday 15 August 2005 04:19 pm, Stefan Jones wrote: On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 15:57 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: But first I have an idea to only use scanelf (but that may have issues with 32/64 combined userspaces) which I would want to implement. no, it doesnt ... scanelf can handle any ELF format regardless of endian/bitsize of the host or target or any combo thereof you can scan 32bit MSB ARM ELF's from a host 64bit LSB X86_64 host just as easily as say from a 32bit MSB PARISC host Sorry, was not clear enough, a 32bit library cannot resolve a 64bit dependency. So when you read in the available libraries and there dependencies you need to keep track of which type they are. i debated adding a flag for that once and ended up with a 'not now, but maybe someday' Anyway, the -i flag to scanelf fixes that and other issues, just group all the data from scanelf by interpreter (so have multiple hashes, one for each interp). yeah, that might be a better idea anyways ... after all, we dont want to limit our concept of different co-existing ABI's to just 32bit/64bit also, you may want to use -F to control the output rather relying on the default output order -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] flat profiles punted (and a note about x86/OpenBSD)
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Proper commit messages
Markus Rothe wrote: [Tue Aug 09 2005, 07:36:18AM EDT] Personaly I find it a little bit annoying to write changes twise. One time in Changelog and one time in --commitmsg. How about using the commitmsg for Changelog as default, but if a Changelog entry already exists, then write nothing to Changelog. A few others have posted their solutions to this problem. Perhaps some people will find my solution useful, since it's a bit more sophisticated. I've been using this for literally years now with no modifications. - handles using editor for echangelog - fixes spacing before re-using the message for cvs commit - post-runs eviewcvs (for the sake of pasting into bugs) # echangelog and repoman combined er() { echangelog ${1:+$*} || return 1 rc } # repoman commit with the message from the ChangeLog rc() { declare msg if [[ -n $* ]]; then msg=$* echo Using msg from command-line 2 else msg=$(perl ChangeLog -0777 -pe \ 's/^.*?\n \d{2} \w{3} \d{4};.*?:\n//s || exit 1; # trim top s/\n(?:\*| \d{2} \w{3} \d{4};).*//s;# trim bottom s/^\s*//; s/\s*$//; s/^(?: |\t)//gm;# fix spacing #/^ /m || s/\s+/ /g; # normalize spacing unless formatted ') if [[ $? != 0 || -z $msg ]]; then echo couldn't parse message from ChangeLog 2 return 1 fi echo Parsed msg from ChangeLog 2 fi echo -- 2 echo $msg 2 echo -- 2 repoman commit -m $msg || return 1 if [[ -x /usr/bin/eviewcvs ]]; then local f entry=$(perl -00ne '/^ \d/ and print, last' ChangeLog) entry=${entry%%:*} entry=${entry##*} entry=${entry//,/ } for f in $entry; do [[ $f == -* ]] continue f=${f#+} echo $f done | xargs -n1 eviewcvs fi } Regards, Aron -- Aron Griffis Gentoo Linux Developer pgpwoTbgK9bLI.pgp Description: PGP signature