Re: [gentoo-user] font question

2003-12-30 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Norbert Kamenicky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 U are not the only one, who doesn't know what for
 /etc/fonts/fonts.conf  is ...

 it belongs to fontconfig ebuild, and XFree
 depends on it ...
 changes are probably taken only at buildtime
 and therefore XFree86Config fontpath setup is
 needed (correct me if I am wrong)

No, changes aren't only taken at build-time. There are two different font
setups right now: 1) fontconfig, Xft and freetype, for which fonts are
listed in fonts.conf and local.conf; 2) core fonts, for which fonts are
listed in XF86Config or served using xfs.

Most applications use the newer fonts.conf/local.conf setup, however some
legacy applications still use the old setup (gtk1 applications I believe,
for example).



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Re: [gentoo-user] Ati mobility Radeon 7500 - Setting up DRI problem ...

2003-12-30 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Van Den Abeele Kristof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In the next step I wanted to use the 3D capabilities of my video card.
 So I did read some manuals , and concluded I needed to emerge xfree-drm.



 But I got error message concerning no variable in my make.conf file , so
 I added there the keyword radeon Afterwards , emerge xfree-drm went
 fine. I also did modify my XF86Config file and removed the hashes before
 load dri  load glx





 But when I ran glxinfo , I had no direct rendering. XFree86.0.log also
 gave errors. ( failed to load module agpgart  radeon )



 Did I miss something , or could somebody point me in the good direction
 ?



 ( see also attachments : dmesg.out - XF86Config - Xfree86.0.log ) (
 System is a Acer travelmate 430 - Notebook

Welcome to Gentoo. =)

Please see http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml. The Docs section of
our website is superb, in my opinion.

If you want people (at least me) to look at your attachments, you'll need
to attach them individually as plain-text or post them on the web, not
some zip file.

Thanks,
Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] Xwindows setup

2003-12-28 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Harlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 And, finally, here is the output of the startx command:

 hostname: Unknown host


 XFree86 Version 4.3.0
 Release Date: 27 February 2003
 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
 Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.20-gentoo-r9 i686 [ELF]
 Build Date: 14 December 2003
   Before reporting problems, check http://www.XFree86.Org/
   to make sure that you have the latest version.
 Module Loader present
 Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
  (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
  (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
 (==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Sat Dec 27 18:07:21 2003
 (==) Using config file: /root/XF86Config
 Using vt 7
 Symbol __glXActiveScreens from module
 /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved!
 Symbol __glXActiveScreens from module
 /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved!
 Required symbol GlxSetVisualConfigs from module
 /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/sis_drv.o is unresolved!

 Fatal server error:
 Some required symbols were unresolved

Try remaking XF86Config entirely using xf86cfg or X -configure. Do you
have /etc/X11/XF86Config-4? If so, it's being used instead. It sure looks
like you're attempting to load glx or dri.



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Re: [gentoo-user] HOWTO: Installation on Dell Inspiron 8500 Laptop

2003-12-24 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Chris Nitkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello all,
 I just finished writing a first draft of an installation HOWTO on my
 Inspiron 8500 laptop... check it out at
 http://www.chrisnitkin.com/wordpress/static_gentoo_guide.php! Please be
 gentle (with both my server and your criticisms)! Thanks!

Chris,
Looks pretty nice, except the layout was a little funky in the gray boxes
-- the text sometimes extended past the right side of the box, using
Firebird.

Thanks,
Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade

2003-12-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 03:38, Dennis Robertson wrote:
 No doubt you'll get more informed comment than I can provide on the
 upgrading process. However, you should be aware that -r8 is the subject of a
 security warning recommending upgrade to -r9. Quite a few of us encountered
 bugs with -r9 so I would recommend you stay where you are for the time
 being, until there is a bug-free upgrade option.

Please don't recommend staying with a kernel that has a root exploit.
I'd rather have a bug than get rooted.

gentoo-2.4.20-r9 and gentoo-2.4.22-r1 are both patched with the fix, as
is the latest version of every other kernel sources package in portage.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade

2003-12-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 05:10, Joshua Banks wrote:
 --- Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Please don't recommend staying with a kernel that has a root exploit.
  I'd rather have a bug than get rooted.
 
 
 So, does -r7 suffer from the same root exploit?

Yes, everything below -r9 does.

  gentoo-2.4.20-r9 and gentoo-2.4.22-r1 are both patched with the fix,
  as
  is the latest version of every other kernel sources package in
  portage.


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge rsync ?

2003-12-04 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 05:57, Oliver Lange wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 How can i upgrade rsync ?
 
 'emerge -up rsync' gave the following error:
 
 emerge: the sync action does not support --pretend.
 
 Seems that emerge misunderstands 'rsync' as 'sync' ??

emerge net-misc/rsync


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Re: [gentoo-user] XDirectFB and Gnome problems

2003-12-04 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 15:13, Thomas Richards wrote:
 Hi,
   I recently decided to try using the XDirectFB.  I got it to work with 
 a bunch of window managers(but not KDE), so I decided to try out gnome.  
 Launching gnome with the XDirectFB has no problems, and usng it is a 
 blast.  The only problem is that I can't kill gnome without having a 
 fight with the terminal and killing the process.  When I use 
 Crtl+Alt+Backspace it kills it then it starts up again.  Anyone know how 
 to stop gnome from keep coming back up?  This also happens when I'm not 
 on the XDirectFB also.

When you say Gnome, do you mean gdm? It's configured to restart after
quits a few times before printing an error message.


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Re: [gentoo-user] XDirectFB and Gnome problems

2003-12-04 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 18:01, Thomas Richards wrote:
 Yea, I mean gdm.  After I fight with it awhile switching terminals i can 
 get back to it and i can kill the process, anyway to stop it from 
 restarting?

Why not just startx and set XSESSION=Gnome in rc.conf instead of going
through gdm?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Freevo/Mplayer/Nvidia/X help please!

2003-11-24 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 10:13, Murray Shields wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I recently replaced a RH9 and older verion of Freevo with a Gentoo build 
 and the latest Freevo (with absolutely everything installed via emerge). 
 Everything was compiled, so everything is up-to-date.
 
 The hardware is identical, and primarily consists of a Celeron 1.1, 
 256Mb RAM and a Nvidia GeForce 440MX with 64Mb RAM. I should also note 
 that Freevo is started from the command line, not from within X itself. 
 Whilst it was out of date, Freevo worked perfectly before the reload.
 
 Freevo will now run quite happliy boot and play MP3's and image 
 slideshows, but when I try to view a video (any video, any codec) I get 
 a black screen for several seconds then get dumped back to the Freevo 
 menu. If I use mplayer from the command line it works fine and plays the 
 specified movie file (the same file that fails from within Freevo).
 
 When I exit Freevo I see messages indicating that errors have been 
 placed in the mplayer logs, as follows:
 
 mplayer_stdout.log looks good until the line:
 vo: x11 uninit called but x11 not inited..
 and then it exits.
 
 mplayer_stderr.log has this:
 can't open '/root/.mplayer/codecs.conf': No such file or directory.
 can't open input config '/root/.mplayer/input.conf': No such file or 
 directory.
 vo: couldn't open the X11 display ()!
 Error opening/initialising the selected video_out (-vo) device.
 
 If I change Freevo to use x11 instead of fbdev as its display mode, 
 I get an additonal Freevo error saying:
 
 Warning: display is set to x11, but the environment has no DISPLAY set. 
 Setting display to fbdev.
 
 mplayer_stderr.log no longer has the lines complaining about the 
 video_out device.
 
 Note that XFree86 is installed, as is the nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx. 
 KDE and Gnome are NOT installed. I believe the Nvidia drivers are 
 installed correctly (I get the Nvidia logo when I do a startx, which 
 runs just fine). Running Freevo from inside X does not fix the problem.
 
 I am probably missing something simple, but stuffed if I know what it 
 is. Any help would be appreciated.

Sounds like you're running it as root. Try as a regular user.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Philosophical(?) question about 'emerge unmerge'

2003-11-22 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 14:22, Jason Evans wrote:
 I ran gentoo on a system for a few days earlier this year, right up to
 where my system became a casualty of an emerge limitation, documented at
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/portage-manual.xml :
 
   Warning: Unmerging packages can be dangerous. If you remove any
   core packages your system may cease to function and the removal of
   various libraries may cause software to fail. Portage does not warn
   you if you are removing core packages or dependencies for other
   packages.
 
 This seems like a critical limitation to me.  It means that unless I have a
 deep understanding of the dependencies among packages, the number of
 packages on my system can only grow.
 
 In general, Gentoo seems to be quite well architected, and this limitation
 sticks out like a sore thumb to me.  What is the rationale?  Is it on the
 to be fixed list, or is it intentional?  If it's intentional, how do
 people maintain systems over the long term without re-installing every so
 often?
 
 I'm searching for a Linux distro to switch to (I'm one of those Red Hat
 customers being left in the lurch), and Gentoo seems really nice, *except*
 for this one problem, so some enlightenment would really be appreciated.

Jason,
The problem is that reverse dependency checking doesn't work properly
yet. That means that if Portage attempted to remove some package A, it's
unable to properly check if any other packages need any of the same
dependencies package A has, so it can't remove the whole chain of things
package A depends on.

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Re: [gentoo-user] su: permission denied

2003-11-22 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 21:53, Daniel wrote:
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  I did an `su` and logged in as root, emerged some stuff, and did a
  `usermod -G games joeljkp` to add myself to the 'games' group. I then
  did `exit` to get back to my account.
 
 
 Are you still part of the wheel group - you should be.

with the -G flag to usermod, you need to also list all other groups you
should be a member of. -G games,wheel,users,portage   etc..


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Re: [gentoo-user] system time/hw clock

2003-11-18 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 09:02, Ric Messier wrote:
 I've no idea what Windows doesn't treat time correctly means. I've been 
 dual booting for years and only have problems when I do something dumb 
 on the UNIX side (like not setting the /etc/localtime link) or 
 sometimes under OpenBSD but I forget what the problem there is/was.
 
 Ric

It means that in my experience, if you don't have time set to UTC in
Linux, every time you boot Windows it will mess your time up.

I believe this may be because Windows leaves the hardware clock as UTC
and sets its clock as an offset of that, while Linux sets the hardware
clock as local time if it's set to do so.


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Re: [gentoo-user] enable man -k

2003-11-18 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 22:10, mornabis wrote:
Hi all there.  Anybody knows how to enable man -k searches ??
 
Sorry if that is questioned again, but i donĀ“t know where to browse 
 this list.

Uncomment the cron job for makewhatis in /etc/cron.daily/, that will
rebuild the database daily. You can start with a manual 'makewhatis' to
get something to search right away.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6 and Touchpad

2003-11-17 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 08:59, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
   Hi,
 
   I built a linux-2.6.0-test9-gentoo kernel today with
 
 CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV=y
 CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=y
 CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2_SYNAPTICS=y
 
   and when booting this kernel I can move the mouse cursor with my
   touchpad but using it (by tipping) as the left mouse button does not
   work.
 
   I am using xfree-4.3.0-r3.

Are you set up to use the synaptics driver in xfree?
See http://w1.894.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad/
and http://www.tuxmobil.org/touchpad_driver.html
and documents in /usr/share/doc/xfree*/synaptics/.


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Re: [gentoo-user] X11 crashing when switching to terminal or shutdown

2003-11-17 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 17:40, Henti Smith wrote:
 Hi all
 
 I've had some problems with X11 before related to crashing when starting up on a gf2 
 card in another machine. This machine has a ti4800 which so far has been running 
 fine. 
 
 I however updated X11 to xfree-4.3.0-r3 and still starts up fine, but when I try to 
 change back to terminal using alt- combination or shutdown the X server I geta  hard 
 crash similar to the AGP problem on the other machine. I've checked that I have the 
 latest nvidia drivers ( I do ) and according to portage I have the latest xfree. 
 I've played with agp settings and even disabled it completely, still no change.
 
 anybody have a similar problem and can possibly shed some light on a  solution ? 
 
 Henti 

Try disabling framebuffer if you're using it. Or switch to vesa if
you're using riva.


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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.0: Xserver crashes

2003-11-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 10:48, Christian Fischer wrote:
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 hi there.
 
 i've tried kernel 2.6.0-beta9-gentoo because of having an i875 chipset. i use 
 a nvidia geforce 2 mx 400 card. 
 i've tried out 2 ways of getting the correct nvidia-driver, as first 
 downloading NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4496-pkg2.tar.gz from nvidia.com
 and patching with NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-4496-2.6.diff from minion.de, as second 
 emerging nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx.
 
 it's the same result: the nv-driver works and the nvidia-driver crashes my 
 Xserver. if i try to attach any vt or if i try to shutdown the Xserver. my 
 mashine freezes with 3 horizontal stripes on my monitor. i can't get local 
 access, remote access is mostly possible. i've 99% cpu-load (events/0) and 
 only reboot -f helps. 
 
 any hints?

You might want to test whether this also occurs on vanilla 2.6, and
vanilla 2.4. I don't know much about i875 chipsets, so I'm not sure
about needing to use 2.6.

By the way, since you used the driver from nvidia.com you overwrote your
GL libraries. Whenever you use the nv driver, it may be partially broken
due to this. That's the reason we have opengl-update.


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Re: [gentoo-user] why kdrive?

2003-11-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 01:08, Spundun Bhatt wrote:
 Donnie Berkholz wrote:
  On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 16:54, spundun wrote:
 Okkey, understood. Now later in this mail you are going to say that
 its a snapshot off the recent xserver from fd.o, then how is it in
 sync with XFree.org? what do you mean by in sync with?

The kdrive ebuild _in portage_ uses xfree86 sources.

The xserver things _on my overlay_ use freedesktop.org.

snip
 I think what I heard was that you could just place the xserver binary
 alongside XFree setup and be able to use it. I really just heard it, I
 dont understand how its supposed to work, so I guess I will take your
 word for it that its not going to work.

The issue here is our package management system. Yes you can install it
alongside xfree, assuming you installed the libs to /usr/local so they
don't overwrite xfree's. This is something we (meaning Gentoo) will not
do, because /usr/local is not a place a package management system should
put things. As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, modifying the ebuilds
to use prefixes of /usr/local instead of /usr would solve this, but my
versions of the ebuilds will remain fit for inclusion in Portage.

snip more stuff
 Ohh and btw, if you are reworking them, you might want to change the
 module name to xserver?

Already was. The kdrive on my overlay is a modification of that in
portage, reflecting usage of imake and therefore xfree86 sources.

http://dev.gentoo.org/~spyderous/overlay/x11-base/xserver/


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Re: [gentoo-user] KT400 AGP-4X (Radeon 9800 Pro)

2003-11-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 07:00, Spider wrote:
 begin  quote
 On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:49:23 +0100
 Dennis Freise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Thank you Spider, that was also my first thought :) But at the time I
  tried it (~2 month ago), the ati-drivers didn't support 2.6. I think
  i'll give it another shot and have a look if there are new
  (2.6-compatible) drivers out, or maybe the kernel itself now supports
  the RV350 ? :)
 
 No clue there really.. .   As usual.. donate me the hardware and I'll
 dokument how to make it work  ;-)   , The normal statement from me when
 somone has better hardware than I do ;)

ati-drivers in portage work under 2.6.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple versions of openmotif

2003-11-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 10:51, Marius Mauch wrote:
 On 11/14/03  Stephen Boulet wrote:
 
  Doing emerge --pretend --update world tells me that x11-libs/
  openmotif-2.2.2-r2 needs to be installed. But I already have x11-libs/
  openmotif-2.2.2-r3 installed.
  
  Do I really need r2 and r3 installed?
 
 where did you get that -r3 ebuild from, I don't see it in the tree.

Marius,
http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/x11-libs/openmotif/Attic/openmotif-2.2.2-r3.ebuild


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Re: [gentoo-user] KT400 AGP-4X (Radeon 9800 Pro)

2003-11-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 19:37, Dennis Freise wrote:
 On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:59:27 -0500
 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 10:17, Dennis Freise wrote:
   The radeon-drivers from X don't support the RV350 chipset (Radeon 9600 
   9800 Pro) - that's my whole problem :)
  
  Not exactly true. They don't support accelerated 3D, but they have
  accelerated 2D.
 
 Could you please be so kind as to explain me how I get 2D acceleration only ?
 The radeon driver of X didn't work here when selected. Starting X failed with a
 message somewhat like Your chipset is not supported by this driver. (don't
 know the exact words now :) )

The issue here is not the rv350 chipset, but a few very new revisions of
the latest cards that don't have supprt yet. They should soon. I was
hoping one of xfree's patches would allow them to work anyway, but
apparently not.

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Re: [gentoo-user] why kdrive?

2003-11-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 01:29, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 14:54, spundun wrote:
  Hi
  My question is why is there a module called kdrive in gentoo? As far as 
  I know, the xserver Keith Packard is working on is called xserver now 
  and is hosted on freedesktop.org. I just want to know if this is in sync 
  with that or not, and also if there is any chance of a cvs ebuild being 
  available.
snip
 I have ebuilds for most of the required things already (all of them as
 of last time I build xserver, two weeks ago), available on
 dev.gentoo.org/~spyderous/overlay/. Distfiles are available in the same
 place.

As to the CVS ebuilds, it's not really possible given the changing
dependencies as new extensions are written, and as newer versions of
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Re: [gentoo-user] make ebuild

2003-11-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 02:17, Selentek 24331-03 wrote:
 I try to make my own ebuilds,
 but I don't want to make compile stage from root user.
 ( Compile stage can write something to system directories )
 
 Is where any solution?
 
 PS: Is it right way to compile from root ?

Look into the userpriv FEATURE, which I believe allows regular users to
do anything except merge to the live filesystem. I don't use it so don't
know much about it, but it might be documented in relevant man pages or
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge kde 3.2.0 beta 1

2003-11-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 03:26, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
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 Hi Gentoo users,
 
 before I file a bug, I ask here first ;-)
 
 When I try to emerge KDE 3.2.0 beta 1, I get the following:
 
 = ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge -p kde
 
 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies ...done!
 [ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kde-3.1.4
 
 My portage tree was synced yesterday.
 
 Any hints?

/usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] (10 Sep 2003)
# new kde versions mask
=kde-base/kde-3.2.0_beta1
=kde-base/kdeaccessibility-3.2.0_beta1
=kde-base/kdeaddons-3.2.0_beta1
=kde-base/kdeartwork-3.2.0_beta1
=kde-base/kdeedu-3.2.0_beta1
...etc.

Can be countered by /etc/portage/package.unmask


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Re: [gentoo-user] why kdrive?

2003-11-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 16:54, spundun wrote:
 Donnie Berkholz wrote:
 
 On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 14:54, spundun wrote:
 I dont understand. I think kdrive is not related to xfree86.org .

You're a little misled here. kdrive started within xfree86. Take a look
in xfree86 source code sometime, xc/program/Xserver/hw/kdrive. After
Keith Packard left xfree86, kdrive began being maintained in other
places. Now it's at freedesktop.org

 You know that mine (and everybody and their dog's) sudden interest in 
 xserver is due to the new developement regarding compositing manager 
 extension which enables ppl to use effects similar (but not limited) to 
 OS-X, right?

Yes, one of the developers posted to slashdot a couple of days ago.

 The other problem I've seen is that we should install all of the
 libraries xserver requires to /usr/X11R6/, which would overwrite xfree's
 files.
 
 I think [EMAIL PROTECTED] can work with xlib etc components from XFree 
 project. Ask on their irc #xwin to confirm.

Apparently you didn't notice when you joined #xwin a couple of days ago
that I was in there.

No. The xfree86 libraries aren't autotooled (they use horrible imake),
cannot be built independently, and do not install *.pc files needed for
pkg-config.

  (When compiling xserver/xlibs by hand, one typically installs to
 /usr/local/.) So xserver/kdrive will need to change to an exclusive
 build, instead of something that can be installed alongside xfree.
   
 
 I dont understand the exact nature of the problem, but it seems trivial! 
 may be I am missing something,

The issue is that it should be installed to /usr/X11R6, according to
policy. Therefore, freedesktop.org's xlibs/xserver and xfree86 currently
cannot be installed at the same time.

 I have ebuilds for most of the required things already (all of them as
 of last time I build xserver, two weeks ago), available on
 dev.gentoo.org/~spyderous/overlay/. Distfiles are available in the same
 place.
   
 
 Are they cvs snapshots? If yes, then what date? kdrive, or [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yes, they are CVS snapshots. Look at the ebuild names to get the date,
naming thus far has been ${package}-0.1_pre${date}.ebuild. Ebuilds for
new xlibs that aren't there yet are trivial. Simply check out the CVS
from xlibs.freedesktop.org, make a tarball from the top level (using the
naming scheme of the distfiles in my overlay), of X11, xtrans, etc, copy
that tarball to distfiles, copy one of the other needed ebuilds over to
a new one with the proper date and try it out. Some tweaking may be
necessary. Do the same with xserver CVS.

I'm going to be reworking those ebuilds over the next week or two, so be
aware that they may be changing somewhat drastically.

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Re: [gentoo-user] why kdrive?

2003-11-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 16:09, Matt Chorman wrote:
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 On Wednesday 12 November 2003 10:29 pm, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
  I have ebuilds for most of the required things already (all of them as
  of last time I build xserver, two weeks ago), available on
  dev.gentoo.org/~spyderous/overlay/. Distfiles are available in the same
  place.
 
 Is there anything to watch out for when using these ebuilds? Do they coexist 
 nicely with xfree86? (I'm guessing by the tone of your email that they do 
 not).. Any docs on what to do yet? I've been wanting to play around with 
 kdrive but have not wanted to kill anything in the process.. (I do have 
 vmware so if nothing else I will install gentoo in this - I just want to play 
 and test..)

The ebuilds cannot be used at the same time as xfree86 without
modification of the installation directories and prefixes within the
ebuild.

For docs, see xlibs.freedesktop.org, xserver.freedesktop.org, and the
xserver mailing list.

If you want to play, feel free to quickpkg xfree, emerge -C xfree, then
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Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64 and xfs-sources

2003-11-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 12:35, KamaolaKid wrote:
 I'm installing from the latest amd64 live cd and I'm using XFS for my
 root file system.  When I emerge -k sys-kernel/xfs-sources it complains
 about the package being masked.  It appears that all the kernel sources
 are masked, and they are all 2.4 kernels.  I was under the impression
 that the live cd itself was using the 2.6 xfs sources.  Is this correct?
 If so, how can I get my hands on the 2.6 xfs sources?

I believe development-sources has XFS. Other than that, only
gentoo-test-sources, gentoo-dev-sources, vanilla-sources and
vanilla-prepatch-sources are proved working on amd64.

You may be interested in gentoo-dev-sources, which are 2.6 sources with
a Gentoo patchset. That's all I know about them.


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Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading vid card

2003-11-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 05:35, Aaron Walker wrote:
 I just bought a new video card for my 2nd machine (my windows gaming 
 box), and so I thought I would replace the ATI Rage128 I have in this 
 box (Gentoo 1.4) with the GF4 Ti4200 that I am taking out of the windows 
 box.
 
 I was just wondering which installation method would be better, or if it 
 even matters:
 
 a) download and install the driver from Nvidia's site
 b) follow the directions of the Gentoo Linux Desktop Configuration Guide 
 (which is basically just emerge nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel, then edit 
 config files, and load nvidia module)
 
 I would prefer option A, but I just wanted to run it by the list first 
 before I do it.. I finally have this gentoo box running *perfectly* 
 (just installed it last week.. couldn't be more pleased), and I don't 
 want to mess anything up ;)

Option B, for a few reasons.
1) Nvidia's GL libs don't overwrite xfree's because portage handles it
using opengl-update, so it's easy to switch back and forth to diagnose
problems etc.
2) Automatic setup of everything that needs setting up
3) Automatic notification of new driver releases


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Re: [gentoo-user] Personal Package Management

2003-11-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 14:14, Charles Holbrook wrote:
 Can anyone point me an FAQ or help file for creating my own packages and
 how I would manage them?  I am currently looking at gentoo as a complete
 replacement for redhat in my work environment, the only thing holding me
 back is figuring out how to create my own packages and how to set up an
 internal package server.

All you do is write ebuilds and add them to your overlay (and preferably
post them to bugs.gentoo.org so others can benefit).

Here are three good resources for writing and submitting ebuilds:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/policy.xml
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-howto.xml
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ebuild-submit.xml

And on overlays:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=53823

Setting up rsync and distfiles servers (ignore the stuff about
submitting etc.):
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/rsync.xml
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/source_mirrors.xml


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Re: [gentoo-user] X sharing (OT?)

2003-11-07 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 08:49, mathieu perrenoud wrote:
 Hello,
 I'm looking for a tool that would do with X11 windows something similar that 
 screen does with consoles. Something that would let me detach from windows 
 and re-attach to them from somewhere else. I don't want the overhead of 
 grabbing the whole desktop (like vnc). Is there something in portage?

Not in portage, but xmove does it. There's another too, but I can't
recall it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] X sharing (OT?)

2003-11-07 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 15:09, mathieu perrenoud wrote:
 On Friday 07 November 2003 18:57, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
  On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 08:49, mathieu perrenoud wrote:
   Hello,
   I'm looking for a tool that would do with X11 windows something similar
   that screen does with consoles. Something that would let me detach from
   windows and re-attach to them from somewhere else. I don't want the
   overhead of grabbing the whole desktop (like vnc). Is there something in
   portage?
 
  Not in portage, but xmove does it. There's another too, but I can't
  recall it.
 
 thanks.
 I found xmove for debian only and I don't know what to do with .deb files.
 I also found xmx http://www.cs.brown.edu/software/xmx/ but couldn't get it to 
 compile :-(

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Re: [gentoo-user] LiveCD for HPPA?

2003-11-05 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 11:32, Andrew Farmer wrote:
 On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 06:28:01 -0800, Brian Downey muttered:
  Hey folks...
  
  I have the once, maybe twice in a lifetime chance to try and install Linux
  (Gentoo, of course!) on an HP 9000/V2600.
  
  For those not aware of what a V-class is... think 32gb of RAM, 16 CPU
  PA-RISC powerhouse that's the size of a freezer.  After Linux is on it,
  it's running [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a few days :)
  
  The ESIEE site claims that the V-class is unsupported/untested, but I'm
  gonna try anyway.  Question is... anyone know where I can download the
  HPPA Live CD?  I've dug through a few mirrors and only found x86 and
  PPC...?
 
 There probably isn't one. My advice would be to look for *any* kind of
 Linux distribution for the HP9000 and see if you can boot from that.
 After you've got some sort of Linux running, *then* you can try to make it
 Gentoo.

http://gentoo.oregonstate.edu/experimental/hppa/


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Re: [gentoo-user] pkg-config

2003-11-05 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 21:14, Steven Cain wrote:
 does anyone know how to make sure pkg-config is configured 
 properly?  I've tried installing it and it says that it is 
  installed, but whenever other programs look for it, says 
  it's not there.  I've done: 
   
  rpm -qa | grep pkg-config 
   
  and nothing shows up.  So does anyone know what I'd need 
  to do? 

It's actually called pkgconfig, and rpm won't get it for you since it
wasn't installed as an rpm. There's an act-alike querying tool called
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Re: [gentoo-user] LiveCD and Mtools

2003-11-03 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 23:35, Brent L Johnson wrote:
 The mtools (like mcopy, etc) do not come with the default install.  They
 come with the mtools package in app-admin/tools and are included with
 CD2 of the LiveCD set.  How can I install these?  I copied all the CD2
 packages to /usr/portage/packages and I tried running emerge -k
 app-admin/mtools but its trying to go download the package from the
 internet.
 
 How can I force it to install from the local disk?

Check to be sure you copied the package correctly. It should be directly
in /usr/portage/packages/All/ as $package-$version.tbz2.

An emerge -kp $package should show binary instead of ebuild on the left
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RE: [gentoo-user] LiveCD and Mtools

2003-11-03 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 10:29, Brent L Johnson wrote:
 Hmmm - I copied them as it said under section 25 of the
 installation document:
 
 cp -a /mnt/cdrom/packages/* /usr/portage/packages/
 
 I don't see an mtools package located in the packages/All
 directory.  The only one I find is in:
 
 /usr/portage/app-admin/mtools
 
 Should I be pulling the mtools from somewhere else
 off CD2 and putting them in the packages directory?
 There are packages listed under All.. but no mtools.
 
 When I run emerge -kp mtools I get:
 
 ---
 These are the packages that I would emerge, in order:
 
 Calculating depencies ...done!
 [ebuild  N] app-admin/mtools-3.9.8-r1

Are you sure mtools is on CD2? If so, mount CD2. Then do this:
# ls /mnt/cdrom/packages/All/mtools*
(to see if it's on the CD)
# cp /mnt/cdrom/packages/All/mtools* \
/mnt/gentoo/usr/portage/packages/All/
(to copy it to your Gentoo install)

Another option to get that stuff off the floppy is to simply mount the
floppy normally.
# mount -t fat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
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Re: [gentoo-user] Live CD for 2.6 beta 9

2003-11-01 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 06:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Wondering if it is better to start from scratch with a 2.6 kernel
 live CD, or if it is possible to install gentoo, and a 2.6 kernel
 starting from one of the older CDs that I already have downloaded.

If you want to install from 2.6, more power to you, but I don't really
see the point. Especially if you're just reinstalling because you want
to use a 2.6 kernel on the LiveCD.

Same location on any mirror:
http://gentoo.oregonstate.edu/experimental/x86/livecd/livecd-2.6_10-23-2003.iso


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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts files

2003-11-01 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 14:17, Paulo da Silva wrote:
  From times to times I have problems with the fonts!
 Now it's happening again after rebuilding gentoo to my
 laptop. Generally I resolve the problems on a error
 and try basis. I copy from previous installations, for ex.
 
 Is there anything I could read or is there anybody who
 could explain how fonts configuration works?
 I have at least 3 files. /etc/fonts/local.conf, /etc/X11/XF86Config
 and /etc/X11/fs/config. What are the roles of each of these files?
 What fonts should I put in there?

local.conf is for fontconfig stuff, and it adds to fonts.conf.
/etc/X11/XF86Config is for old-style font setup
(you need both set up for your fonts for every app to have all the fonts
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Re: [gentoo-user] SiS 630 DRM

2003-10-31 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 12:21, Philip Ward wrote:
 Hi I've followed the instructions on Donnie Berkholtz's page regarding 
 using xfree-drm but have one more problem to solve.
 startx complains that the dri module is not present.
 Donnie's page says NOT to build dri into the kernel, but dri does not 
 seem to be created as part of xfree-drm.
 I'm using an onboard SiS630 board that should support dri.

Make sure you've got sisfb in the kernel. sis.o will be created by
xfree-drm. Be sure you've got /usr/src/linux linked to the kernel where
you want the drm to be installed.

Be sure you also have this:
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/sis_dri.so

'qpkg -l xfree | grep sis' will tell you.


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Re: [gentoo-user] SiS 630 DRM

2003-10-31 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 14:57, Philip Ward wrote:
 Donnie Berkholz wrote:
 
  Be sure you also have this:
  /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/sis_dri.so
  
   Ah, that's what's missing. Is sis_dri.so part of a particular package 
 or should I add sis_dri or dri to my USE flags and rebuild xfree?

For whatever reason xfree-4.3 doesn't build it. That's why
www.winischhofer.net has them available for download.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fixed - Re: [gentoo-user] Getting KDM to read ~/.xsession

2003-10-28 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 13:07, Hall Stevenson wrote:
 At 01:02 PM 10/28/2003, you wrote:
 - From the forums it looks like you have to edit /etc/X11/Sessions/
 kde-3.1.4 and source the ~/.xsession.  Rather irrating to have to do
 this yourself.
 
 % cat /etc/X11/Sessions/kde-3.1.4
 
 #!/bin/sh
 
 if [ -r  ~/.xsession ]; then
 . ~/.xsession
 fi
 
 /usr/kde/3.1/bin/startkde
 
 File a bug report against then. Not sure how often it would present a 
 problem for people though...

~/.xsession is meant to _substitute for_, not to _add to_ the standard
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Re: [gentoo-user] Radeon 9000 problem

2003-10-26 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 15:28, Robert Crawford wrote:
 On Sunday 26 October 2003 2:07 pm, Kwame Opam wrote:
  Hello. Well, I got Gentoo running today after a very long weekend. I only
  have a few problems now though. Firstly, I need 3d acceleration for my
  Radeon 9000, but I have no clue how to get it. After I configured X, it
  complained that it can't find the radeon drivers. I downloaded Xfree-drm
  and everything, but I'm worried that since it's an AGP card it still can't
  properly detect it. Also, I need my printer to be detected but I don't know
  how to make my computer see it. Any ideas?
 
 Kwame,
 I have 3 of these cards, and would suggest building a 2.6-0test8-mm1 (or 
 test9) kernel, and compiling the ATI stuff directly into the kernel, like 
 below. Then there's no need to mess with ATI drivers or DRM- it's all already 
 supported. Most comments I've read say the stock ATI 2.6 support is just as 
 good as any of the ATI attempts at Linux drivers. Works great- I get 8000+ 
 FPS @16bit 1024x768 with these cards. Here's a really good way for a basic 
 trial, that I posted on the Gentoo forums..

See www.gentoo.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml for some initial info.

For 2.6, I recommend:
-agpgart as kernel module, along with your AGP chipset (you may wish to
add both modules to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6)
-DRM as kernel module (xfree-drm isn't working yet, but will soon
hopefully)

This modular configuration allows one to start using ati-drivers, with
its internal agpgart or not, instead without any needed recompilation.

The only change to get to my recommended 2.4 configuration is to leave
the DRM out of the kernel entirely and use xfree-drm instead. Again,
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Re: [gentoo-user] WYSIWYG WebPage Editor/Designer

2003-10-25 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 11:01, Paulo Jorge de Oliveira Cantante de Matos
wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I need to create a website but I really do not want to get my hands
 dirty with HTML. I've looked at BlueFish and Screem. Is there any M$
 FrontPage alike software for Gentoo?
 
 Best regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] XFree upgrade

2003-10-22 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 14:51, Jordan Elver wrote:
 Hi,
 I've recently got my Radeon 9500 working properly under a 2.6 kernel. I want 
 to upgrade to the latest XFree but I *really* don't want to end up breaking 
 what I already have. 
 
 What steps do I need to take to reduce the probability of breakage? Will I 
 need to re-emerge ati-drivers?

What do you mean by latest? 4.3.0-r3? If you're upgrading from
4.3.0-r2 to that, not much should change. At most, you may need to run
opengl-update xfree  opengl-update ati, but I wouldn't even expect
that.

Also, run 'quickpkg xfree' before upgrading to save a package of
4.3.0-r2. You can remerge that with emerge =xfree-4.3.0-r2 if you have
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo and xdmcp

2003-10-22 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 08:59, Pupeno wrote:
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 Hash: SHA1
 
 is it posible to configure Gentoo so that after running X, use xdmcp to 
 another computer ?

It's the same XFree86 as anywhere else, so it's no more or less possible
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Re: [gentoo-user] XFree upgrade

2003-10-22 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 16:22, Tom Wesley wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 21:18, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
  On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 14:51, Jordan Elver wrote:
   Hi,
   I've recently got my Radeon 9500 working properly under a 2.6 kernel. I want 
   to upgrade to the latest XFree but I *really* don't want to end up breaking 
   what I already have. 
   
   What steps do I need to take to reduce the probability of breakage? Will I 
   need to re-emerge ati-drivers?
  
  What do you mean by latest? 4.3.0-r3? If you're upgrading from
  4.3.0-r2 to that, not much should change. At most, you may need to run
  opengl-update xfree  opengl-update ati, but I wouldn't even expect
  that.
  
  Also, run 'quickpkg xfree' before upgrading to save a package of
  4.3.0-r2. You can remerge that with emerge =xfree-4.3.0-r2 if you have
  major problems.
 
 I'm not sure, but I think quickpkg is broken.  I attempted to use it for
 some Mozilla problems I have.

Works for me. If you're having issues with it, please file a bug on
bugs.gentoo.org.

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Re: [gentoo-user] XFree upgrade

2003-10-22 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 19:24, Jordan Elver wrote:
 Yeah, sorry I did mean 4.3.0-r3. I know that I have issued the opengl-update 
 ati command before to get the card working. But, what exactly does it do?

Changes the symlinks for GL libraries between xfree's, ati's, nvidia's,
etc.

 
  Also, run 'quickpkg xfree' before upgrading to save a package of
  4.3.0-r2. You can remerge that with emerge =xfree-4.3.0-r2 if you have
  major problems.
 
 Thanks. So, that basically packages up what's already installed so that I can 
 easily re-merge it in the future to save re-compiling the earlier version. Is 
 that correct?

Yes.


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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo VS redhat on a server

2003-10-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 01:36, Lotas T Smartman wrote:
 Right. im moving my hosting company and the company (www.jvds.com) are 
 offering a choise of distro under linux, including redhat and gentoo. my 
 first choice would be redhat because of the RHN, the install of updates 
 via the RHN website and the email notification. but gentoo takes less 
 space then redhat (full install for RH is about 1Gb, they say gentoo is 
 about 400mb). so is there any tools like that for gentoo. the reason web 
 install of software is so important is because half of the day i dont 
 have access to ssh to upgrade stuff. a web based installer would make 
 this easer.
 Thanks in advance.
 Lotas
 www.lotas-smartman.net

There is nothing I'm aware of that is able to view and install updates
via the web on Gentoo yet. There's a Webmin module that allows installs,
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Re: Re[2]: [gentoo-user] gentoo VS redhat on a server

2003-10-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 02:11, Christian SchƤfer wrote:
 hi Donnie,
 
 Monday, October 20, 2003, 8:01:44 AM, you wrote:
  There is nothing I'm aware of that is able to view and install updates
  via the web on Gentoo yet. There's a Webmin module that allows installs,
  but it's impossible to view available updates etc.
 
 but it should be possible to install some javaapplet, that is a
 webbased ssh-shell. there are some applets that do that around.

Yes, there happens to be one in Webmin/Usermin.


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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo VS redhat on a server

2003-10-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 12:37, Lotas T Smartman wrote:
 only problem is SSH is blocked on the firewall im behind.
 Lotas

If you're running webmin on the computer it needs to access, the only
thing moving between you and that computer is HTTP. Unless the computer
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Re: [gentoo-user] How can I setup a cluster?

2003-10-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 06:22, Mikhail wrote:
 I'm openmosix user currently, and can comment that it works quite well in my setup.
 As far as I know, beowulf is no longer freely available.

This is incorrect. The concept of a Beowulf cluster is free. See
www.beowulf.org. While it is possible to buy prebuilt clusters
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo VS redhat on a server

2003-10-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 12:48, Lotas T Smartman wrote:
 im guessing that redhat would be the option for me then. i love gentoo, 
 and its going on my workstation soon, but for over 8 hours a day i wont 
 be able to get access to my virtual server in the US if i get gentoo. if 
 an update comes out with redhat, its a matter of telling the website to 
 update it. thats it. with gentoo i have to login, rsync, emerge the 
 update and if its something like apache, or something thats going to 
 take time to recomple, it will be a good while to update.
 Sorry lads. you dident loose one, i still have a linux server at home 
 that will be running gentoo soon, but you dident gain one. hope someone 
 works on a project like this soon!

As I replied to another subthread, you indeed will have access unless
you block SSH from localhost, which is what running Webmin on localhost
would do.

With Gentoo, you set up a daily cron script to run emerge sync, then run
emerge -up world and email you the output. If there are packages you
feel like updating, you log in over Webmin, start a screen session
(app-misc/screen), emerge -u world, detach the screen session, and
leave. Then you check back later by re-logging in to Webmin and
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RE: [gentoo-user] How can I setup a cluster?

2003-10-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 11:25, Jeffrey Smelser wrote:

Could you please not break the thread with your replies? It makes them
quite difficult to find.


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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo VS redhat on a server

2003-10-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 13:33, Lotas T Smartman wrote:
 but does webmins java ssh app not need SSH though the firewall? the last 
 time i tried it it dident work behind my firewall. unless im doing 
 something wrong. is there a way for ssh traffic to slow over either http 
 or https?

If you run Webmin on the machine you want access to, it SSH's to itself.
Therefore if you allow SSH protocol from the machine to itself, it will
work. The SSH is not originating on the machine you surf the Web with.


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RE: [gentoo-user] How can I setup a cluster?

2003-10-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 13:09, Jeffrey Smelser wrote:
 Break them?? How is mine so different that anyone else's?
 
  On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 11:25, Jeffrey Smelser wrote:
  
  Could you please not break the thread with your replies? It makes them
  quite difficult to find.

For your benefit, I took a screenshot that shows the other nicely
threaded replies in the thread [1], then show you breaking the thread a
few times.

Most e-mail clients have a function like Reply to list. If yours
doesn't support that, I would appreciate it if you used one that does.

1. http://dev.gentoo.org/~spyderous/threading.png


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RE: [gentoo-user] How can I setup a cluster?

2003-10-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 13:51, Jeffrey Smelser wrote:
 whelp, I guess I cant contribute to this list any longer since your inconvenienced 
 by my mailer.. Not everyone has choices to what mailer they can use.
 
 I know, I won't be missed..
 Cya around..

Jeffrey,
I'm sure there is a way you can deal with it. I'd be surprised if your
mailer doesn't have this feature -- just take a look around, or check
the help menu or manual. Also, most webmail clients work correctly.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Threading [WAS] How can I setup a cluster?

2003-10-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 14:13, John Ziniti wrote:
 Donnie Berkholz wrote:
  I'm sure there is a way you can deal with it. I'd be surprised if your
  mailer doesn't have this feature -- just take a look around, or check
  the help menu or manual. Also, most webmail clients work correctly.
 
 I'm using Mozilla-mail and all of Jeffrey's posts have been
 properly threaded.  Maybe your mail client isn't trying hard
 enough after not finding the In-Reply-To header?

What else would you suggest my client base it on... the subject? See
subject here for why that may not be a good idea.


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RE: [gentoo-user] How can I setup a cluster?

2003-10-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 18:12, William Kenworthy wrote:
 In evolution control-t will turn threading on/off
 
 Threading sucks anyway, not least because it promotes dissention
 intollerance.
 
 BillK

Bill,
I use threading so I can keep track of what's interesting to me in the
1000+ emails I get every day. If something I'm following is not
threaded, chances are I'll accidentally delete it because I don't have
an infinite amount of time to sort through my mail.

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Re: [gentoo-user] (Successful)Installing KDE and Xfree problem

2003-10-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 22:29, Dennis Robertson wrote:
 On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:18, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
  In /etc/make.conf is a line for PORT_LOGDIR.  Uncomment it and change it if
  you want the logs elsewhere.
 
 Not in my /etc/make.conf  there isn't. My install is only a week old and I did 
 a world update yesterday, so I am surprised I don't have the line in mine. 
 Could you forward a copy of the entry, please.

Have you been running etc-update?


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Re: [gentoo-user] (Successful)Installing KDE and Xfree problem

2003-10-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 23:08, Dennis Robertson wrote:
 On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:33, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
  Have you been running etc-update?
 
 No, because I thought that would ruthlessly overwrite my entries with updated 
 files. I've been doing: find /etc -iname '._cfg_*' and updating manually 
 instead. Is that where I have been going wrong?

It only ruthlessly overwrites if you specifically tell it to do so (the
-3 or -5 options). If you simply type the number of the file to update,
and merge the files, it merges them.

Personally, I merge them manually in a second term while viewing the
diff etc-update shows me because it's still too annoying.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Update question

2003-10-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 01:25, Stephen Liu wrote:
 My questions are;
 
 1) How to run update portage?  Whether
 #emerge -u portage
 will do the job

Yes. Even 'emerge portage' will.

 
 2) How to update ALL configuration files collectively/simultaneously 
 afterwords?

Run etc-update. Type the number of each file that shows up, and merge.
If you _know_ you have never edited any of the files left on the list,
you may choose to use the '-5' option.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Fail to start X

2003-10-19 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 13:23, Stephen Liu wrote:
 Hi Scharf,
 
 Scharf Yuval wrote:
 
 Before the EndSection (in line 90) you forgot EndSubSection
   
 
 I added EndSection as advised and startx
 
 This time it worked starting 3 xterm windows.  The USB mouse did not 
 work.  I have no idea how to close them.

You might want to set your mouse device to /dev/usbmouse or
/dev/input/mice for a USE mouse. Also check the USB mouse/keyboard howto
at:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=79


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Re: [gentoo-user] Placement of /swap

2003-10-18 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Sat, 2003-10-18 at 19:42, Spider wrote:
 begin  quote
 On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 16:16:09 -0700 (PDT)
 Meph Istopheles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm installing tomorrow  havn't seen it in either the install 
  docs or on any Web page, but is gentoo optimised with /swap in a 
  particular position?  RH wants it at the end of a disk, I 
  remember mdk wants it as the second partition, etc.  I'll 
  probably do /boot, then /, then /swap on the drive I'm installing 
  on...unless someone tells me otherwise.
 
 Its basically personal preference. I like to have it as second partition
 (Beginning of drive) but thats just me.. Theres no perfect recepie for
 it that I know of (since I don't know how to align it on platters to
 make it optimized)

From what I've heard, beginning of drive is best since a drive can cover
more area on the outside of the disc in the same amount of time rotating
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Re: [gentoo-user] ATI Radeon 9100 and KT400A

2003-10-18 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Sat, 2003-10-18 at 17:14, Andrew Kirilenko wrote:
 Hello!
 
 I have got new PC with ATI Radeon 9100 and Gigabyte's MB based on
 KT400A. I'd like to get hardware opengl. The very first thing, I have
 tried is using agpgart and xfree-drm on 2.4 kernel. After some time
 fscking with it and googling, I have found that agpgart in 2.4 doesn't
 support version 3 of AGP (or something like this), and it's impossible
 to tell KT400A to not use this AGP3 with my videocard, and only solution
 is to use 2.6 kernel. OK. I have emerged developemt-sources (test6 at
 the moment), compiled them and booted into without any problems. The
 first problem, I have noticed that there is no DMA (and `hdparm /dev/hda
 -d 1` can't set it). Blah. OK. Maybe I have missed something when
 configured kernel, but this is not so important at the moment. Then I

You probably missed support for your IDE chipset, that will get your
DMA.

 have tried `modprobe agpgart` and it was successfull - my radeon was 
 detected correctly. After this I have started `emerge xfree-drm` and it
 simply failed (it supports nothing but 2.4 and patch for 2.5 is
 commented in the ebuild and missing in xfree-drm/files). OK. No problem.
 I made `make menuconfig` again and enabled DRM provided with kernel.
 After recompiling and rebooting I have inserted all necessary modules
 and `startx`. OK. X was started without problems. Superb! I started
 `glxinfo` and simply got segfault (and the same with `glxgears`).

This problem was just solved today and isn't even in portage yet.
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30541

 
 I'm wondering if DRM from kernel is suitable for my XFree version (4.3)?

Yes.

 Or it's possible to get xfree-drm for 2.6 somewhere? Or I need to boot
 2.6 and recompile X (`X -version` shows Build Operating System: Linux
 2.4.19-4GB i686 [ELF])? Or something else? I'm here, waiting for
 suggestions :)
 
 PS. Sorry for such looong story and my not perfect english.
 
 Best regards,
 Andrew.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] ATI Radeon 9100 and KT400A

2003-10-18 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Sat, 2003-10-18 at 20:19, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
 On Sat, 2003-10-18 at 17:14, Andrew Kirilenko wrote:
  have tried `modprobe agpgart` and it was successfull - my radeon was 
  detected correctly. After this I have started `emerge xfree-drm` and it
  simply failed (it supports nothing but 2.4 and patch for 2.5 is
  commented in the ebuild and missing in xfree-drm/files). OK. No problem.
  I made `make menuconfig` again and enabled DRM provided with kernel.
  After recompiling and rebooting I have inserted all necessary modules
  and `startx`. OK. X was started without problems. Superb! I started
  `glxinfo` and simply got segfault (and the same with `glxgears`).
 
 This problem was just solved today and isn't even in portage yet.
 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30541

BTW, I just committed the fix for this in patchset 2.1.19.


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Re: [gentoo-user] nVidia or ATI

2003-10-16 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 15:02, Eric Marchionni wrote:
 when i was looking for my new notebook, it definitly had to have a 
 nvidia card!
 it was pretty hard to get dri running on my radeon 9000 (the gentoo dri 
 guide didn't exist then).
 and now i'm a happy nvidia user without troubles :-)
 
 buy a nvidia card because they (nvidia) started to support linux way 
 earlier (and better) then ati.

Unfortunately nVidia's 3D support is all closed-source, and they don't
really share documentation for 2D either. I do not consider this
better.

ATi, on the other hand, has shared complete documentation for many of
its earlier cards and I believe this will continue. It is also
increasing support for its official closed-source drivers.

And the Direct Rendering Guide is getting a little outdated
unfortunately because I haven't had time to update it. =\


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Re: [gentoo-user] GPM and X ?

2003-10-16 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 18:20, Abilio Carvalho wrote:
 Hey all. I'm just now finishing setting up my Gentoo machine at work, and i have 
 several problems. I'm gonna compile them later, but here's one of the most baffling. 
 I ask because a search of the forums couldn't yield any help.
 
 I emerged gpm, made it run with my imps2 mouse on /dev/misc/psaux, and added it to 
 the rc-scripts. No problem. Then, when I finished emerging X and Gnome and 
 configuring everything, I realized that after I started X with startx and shut it 
 down again, GPM would stop working, because it couldn't open the mouse. Sometimes 
 doing cat /dev/misc/psaux, moving the mouse around, and ctrlCing I could start gpm 
 again.
 
 Any ideas on what might be happening? 

Might want to set gpm to run against /dev/gpm or whatever the device
is...


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Re: [gentoo-user] GPM and X ?

2003-10-16 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 18:55, Abilio Carvalho wrote:
 Thanks, but the only thing on /dev which sounds even close is /dev/gpmctl, but I 
 can't open it with gpm.

This may or may not still be valid.

4. When gpm is in repeater mode, it does not release the mouse device
   when switching to X, but expects X to read data from /dev/gpmdata.
   So, in the current potato default install, IF you install gpm,
   X config must use /dev/gpmdata and ms protocol always, regardless
   of mouse type.

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Re: [gentoo-user] security updates ?! easy way ?

2003-10-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 07:52, Jason Stubbs wrote:
 On Tuesday 14 October 2003 20:26, Mike Williams wrote:
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  On Tuesday 14 October 2003 04:43, raptor wrote:
   is there some way to easy find and update security updates i.e. something
   in the lines of this would be good :
  
   emerge -p security-updates
  
   this will list packges to be updated.. then if I want I can update
   the packges i want to update..
   probably this can be achieved with DEPEND=...
 
  Nope.
  Quite probably an open bug about it though.
 
 This is being worked on... There's a GLEP on it; don't know what number or 
 where to find information though.

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0014.html
You may wish to ask the GLEP's author about progress. There may have
been threads on gentoo-dev mailing list as well, try searching there.
One source of archives is news.gmane.org


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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE and Xfree problem

2003-10-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 10:56, Stephen Liu wrote:
 Hi all folks,
 
 2 CD-version Gentoo 1.4
 ==
 
 During OS installation I encountered difficulty in installing ;
 
 1)
 # emerge -k kde
 
 2)
 # emerge -k xfree
 
 The download time was quick (I have a 3MB broadband connection, single 
 user) but installation each took more than 2 hours respectively without 
 completion compelling me to reboot the PC with Crtl+Alt+Del.  I found 
 their packages on CD2 and have them copied to  
 /usr/portage/packages/ALL/   Kindly advise where will be the preferable 
 folder/directory to install
 
 1) KDE. 
 They have many packages such as
 kde-3.1.2.tbz2
 kde-env-3-r2.tbz2
 kdeaddons-3.1.2.tbz2
 etc.
 
 On RH I found it installed on
 /root/.kde
 /home/user/.kde
 
 Kindly advise whether there is a solution to install all of them 
 simultaneously and collectively.  If YES then HOW.   Which packages are 
 essential to run KDE
 
 Is there a way to shorten the installation time on net-installation i.e. 
 with '# emerge -k kde'
 
 2) Xfree
 Where will be an ideal folder/directory to untar it.  Is it;
 
 # tar -jxvf  /usr/portage/packages/All/package.tbz2  -C  /usr/local/   ???

Although they are tarballs, you don't just untar Gentoo packages. You
emerge them, and that will take care of the installation location etc.
emerge -k kde or emerge -k xfree will take care of all that for you.


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Re: [gentoo-user] is there a good XF86config creator

2003-10-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 18:08, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
 HvR wrote:
  the package from redhat is Xconfigurator maybe we can use the rpm2tar 
  stuff to make an ebuild out of it
 
 I'm working on that. Its a pain in the butt because a few of its 
 dependencies are available only from RH as RPMs or SRPMs.

Could you please file a bug on bugs.gentoo.org and assign to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] so work doesn't get duplicated? I was recently speaking
with a few fellow devs about this very issue.

Thanks.


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Re: [gentoo-user] XFree, dri and tdfx

2003-10-08 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 14:02, Ian Truelsen wrote:
 I am trying to get xfree and dri to work with the tdfx driver for my
 Voodoo3 3000. In the logs I see that it will only work at 1024x768 or
 lower resolutions. I seem to remember that there was a work around for
 this, but I can't seem to locate it using google. Does anyone know
 whether there is sush a beast?

If you examine the ebuild itself, you will see that you need to set a
variable.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] donnie $ grep -A 2 -i risky
/usr/portage/x11-base/xfree/xfree-4.3.0-r3.ebuild
# TDFX_RISKY for feedback (put in -r3 if no problems)
if [ `use 3dfx` -a ${TDFX_RISKY} = yes ]
then
mv -f ${PATCH_DIR}/5850* ${PATCH_DIR}/excluded


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Re: [gentoo-user] is there a good XF86config creator

2003-10-08 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 18:26, HvR wrote:
 one thing i dislike about gentoo is that the support for creating a
 proper XF86config file is missing. the equivalent tool from redhat is
 much smarter. so what i do these days is install redhat have it create
 the config file then copy it to a save spot, install gentoo and then
 put the redhat configured file back, works like a charm.but...
 
 is there a gentoo port of the redhat configurator maybe?
 
 

A post of mine from four days ago (You searched the archives, right? =):
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/48722/


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Re: [gentoo-user] is there a good XF86config creator

2003-10-08 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 01:43, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 18:26, HvR wrote:
  one thing i dislike about gentoo is that the support for creating a
  proper XF86config file is missing. the equivalent tool from redhat is
  much smarter. so what i do these days is install redhat have it create
  the config file then copy it to a save spot, install gentoo and then
  put the redhat configured file back, works like a charm.but...
  
  is there a gentoo port of the redhat configurator maybe?
  
  
 
 A post of mine from four days ago (You searched the archives, right? =):
 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/48722/

Although I was just thinking about adding Xconfigurator to portage in
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Re: [gentoo-user] crack attack failed

2003-10-07 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 23:14, Bryce wrote:
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 Hash: SHA1
 
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/bin/emerge, line 2149, in ?
 mydepgraph.merge(mydepgraph.altlist())
   File /usr/bin/emerge, line 1356, in merge
 retval=portage.doebuild(y,merge,myroot,edebug)
   File /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/portage.py, line 1821, in doebuild
 return 
 merge(settings[CATEGORY],settings[PF],settings[D],settings[BUILDDIR]
 +/build-info,myroot,myebuild=settings[EBUILD])
   File /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/portage.py, line 1940, in merge
 return mylink.merge(pkgloc,infloc,myroot,myebuild)
   File /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/portage.py, line 5018, in merge
 return self.treewalk(mergeroot,myroot,inforoot,myebuild)
   File /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/portage.py, line 4708, in treewalk
 unlockdir(mytmpdir_lock)
   File /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/portage.py, line 5527, in unlockdir
 return unlockfile(mylock)
   File /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/portage.py, line 5568, in unlockfile
 lockfilename,myfd,unlinkfile = mytuple
 TypeError: unpack non-sequence
 
 this happens in the last little bit of an emerge crack-attack. It doesn't seem 
 to be an important problem, but one that should be looked into.

Yep.
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30613


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Re: [gentoo-user] XFREE upgrade...

2003-10-06 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 21:47, Jerry McBride wrote:
 I am currently running xfree86 4.30 r2 from portage and would like to upgrade 
 to release 3.
 
 What I'd like to know is, are there any additional steps I need to do after I 
 emerge r3 into my gentoo box? I seem to recall r3 being a test of some sort 
 and lost all memory of what was discussed on the matter.
 
 Anyone running this version of xfree? Are there any additional steps to make 
 the upgrade a smooth one?
 
 Thank you, in advance.

There shouldn't be any major problems in this upgrade. It has all the
latest fixes and I haven't encountered any real issues. If you use X
over TCP, you'll need to re-enable it after merging. It adds a Synaptics
touchpad driver, which allows them to work on 2.6 kernels and adds many
features on both 2.4 and 2.6 kernels. There's also a significant number
of security fixes and bugfixes. The last significant addition is
potential building of the SDK with USE=sdk or USE=gatos. This will
eventually allow us to update individual drivers without rebuilding
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Re: [gentoo-user] XFREE upgrade...

2003-10-06 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 22:08, Jerry McBride wrote:
 On Monday 06 October 2003 09:59 pm, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
  On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 21:47, Jerry McBride wrote:
   I am currently running xfree86 4.30 r2 from portage and would like to
   upgrade to release 3.
  
   What I'd like to know is, are there any additional steps I need to do
   after I emerge r3 into my gentoo box? I seem to recall r3 being a test of
   some sort and lost all memory of what was discussed on the matter.
  
   Anyone running this version of xfree? Are there any additional steps to
   make the upgrade a smooth one?
  
   Thank you, in advance.
 
  There shouldn't be any major problems in this upgrade. It has all the
  latest fixes and I haven't encountered any real issues. If you use X
  over TCP, you'll need to re-enable it after merging. It adds a Synaptics
  touchpad driver, which allows them to work on 2.6 kernels and adds many
  features on both 2.4 and 2.6 kernels. There's also a significant number
  of security fixes and bugfixes. The last significant addition is
  potential building of the SDK with USE=sdk or USE=gatos. This will
  eventually allow us to update individual drivers without rebuilding
  XFree.
 
 That's great news. For some reason I remember something about fonts being 
 moved from one loadcation under /usr/X11R6 to somewhere else... 
 
 Any thoughts on that one?
 

My xfree-installed fonts reside in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/, and
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Re: [gentoo-user] maybe Gentoo-specific X-server problem

2003-10-05 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 11:33, Frank Reich wrote:
 Hello.
 
 I have a problem using my 20inch monitor with a resolution of 1400x1050 
 pixels. It's a Sony GDM-4011P which is a little old but in Windows I got 
 it up to 1400x1050 at 85Hz using a tool named Powerstrip.
 
 Now I want to use this monitor on my Gentoo machine. For I don't know 
 any other tuning tool like Sax2 from the SuSE-distribution, I installed 
 that distribution on another harddrive and was _successful_ in 
 generating a XF86Config-file with Sax2 that contains modelines for 
 1400x1050-resolution at 81Hz (higher values produce some distortion on 
 the left hand side of the screen).
 So I copied the nessessary lines from that Sax2-XF86Config-file to my 
 XF86Config-file I had built in Gentoo, such as the modelines, the device 
 section, and the screen section.
 
 But in the end I can only run at maximum a 1280x1024 resolution, which 
 is not even 4:3 format. Well, it runs at 85Hz, but I want the bigger 
 resolution I had so much trouble with in configuring.
 
 I tried many combinations of commenting out lines in XF86Config. Even if 
 I only allow one resolution (1400x...) in the screen section the server 
 runs at 1280x1024! Other attempts I made were to configure a virtual 
 resolution, but it never runs at 1400x...!
 
 Why is that so? What kind of behaviour is that? Using Sax2 I can test it 
 all and even the installed windowmaker of that SuSE8.1-distribution runs 
 at 1400x1050. What is missing in my modified XF86Config?
 Do the loaded font modules have anything to do with that (thats the only 
 remarkable difference between the two XF86Config-files)?
 
 Oh and btw.: I use a GeForce2 Ti, which should be able to produce 
 frequencies high enough. I recently installed this card because my 
 Voodoo3 3000 did go at maximum 1400x1050 at 70Hz using Sax2.
 My GeForce2 Ti only has a problem with 3D-functionality - it crashes 
 when running for example glxgears. I noticed that behaviour long before 
 when I used that card on my Windows machine. But 2D-stuff was never a 
 problem. And since I don't intend to play games on my Gentoo machine I'm 
 fine with that.
 
 Big thanks for help,
 Frank.
 
 PS: Is there any other configuration tool like Sax2, which is available 
 for Gentoo? (I don't mean such things like xvidtune.)

The configuration tools provided by XFree86 are generally enough to get
the job done (X -configure, xf86cfg -textmode, and xf86config are three
primary methods). Why don't you copy the complete XF86Config over
instead of trying to just get relevant sections, and probably missing
something small but important? 

Many of us have laptops with 1400x1050 resolutions that work quite well.
I believe I used xf86cfg to generate my XF86Config, although it's been a
while.

http://www.sh.nu/nvidia/ provides some information on generating custom
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Re: [gentoo-user] No Colsole after starting X

2003-10-03 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 17:27, Oliver Bohlen wrote:
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 Hello List
 
 I hava a Gericom Webgine Notebook. Gentoo is running very good on it, only if 
 I'm starting X and want to switch after it back to the colsoles with 
 Ctrl+Alt+F1-6 I only get a black screen.
 I'm using the 2.6test6 Kernel. I already tested it with the 2.4.20 Kernel but 
 there it is the same probmem. I have the same problem with Distributions like 
 SuSE.
 The graphic card in the Notebook is a GeForce 4 Go with 32 MB of RAM. If I 
 plug a Monitor on the Notebook it shows a black screen too. 
 I tried to change the picturefrequence and the driver from nv to nvidia but 
 nothing helps.
 I switched off the Powermanagement in the BIOS and with the bootparameters 
 pci=noacpi but it didn't help too. Switching off/on the Framebuffer was 
 without result too. (The nvidia-Framebuffer-Module isn't working here...)
 I didnt find help in the Gentoo-Forum and with Googleing so I hope to get help 
 here.

In your kernel, do you have the option File systems-Pseudo
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Re: [gentoo-user] No Colsole after starting X

2003-10-03 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 19:09, Shawn wrote:
 I don't believe this is the issue.
 
 nvidia drivers, and maybe fbcon. I repeate, /NOT/ a issue pty issue. The
 console does not use ptys.

Are you using framebuffer? Try disabling it, or switching to vesa if you
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Re: [gentoo-user] xrandr - rotation support on ATI Radeon

2003-10-01 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 11:20, Ryan wrote:
 I've got an ati radeon 7500 and just got a nice new lcd monitor that
 pivots for a larger vertical resolution. I assume this is where XRANDR
 comes in to help me with rotating the screen, but it seems that I can't
 use it to rotate right now:
 
 $ xrandr -d :0 -q
  SZ:Pixels  Physical   Refresh
 *0   1280 x 1024   ( 382mm x 313mm )  *60
  1   1024 x 768( 382mm x 313mm )   60
  2800 x 600( 382mm x 313mm )   60
  3640 x 480( 382mm x 313mm )   60
  4   1152 x 864( 382mm x 313mm )   60
 Current rotation - normal
 Current reflection - none
 Rotations possible - normal
 Reflections possible - none
 $ xrandr -d :0 --orientation left
 X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
   Major opcode of failed request:  154 (RANDR)
   Minor opcode of failed request:  2 (RRSetScreenConfig)
   Serial number of failed request:  12
   Current serial number in output stream:  12
 $
 
 I can see from the query that no rotations are supported (except the
 normal one). Is this a limitation of the radeon driver? Is there a way
 to fix this?
 
 I'd be curious to hear of success stories from other people with pivot
 monitors (or anyone with xrandr rotating success).

The only way to get the rotation is to use kdrive instead of the
standard xfree drivers, which don't support rotation currently.


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Re: [gentoo-user] webmin-1.110

2003-10-01 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 12:26, David wrote:
 When will webmin-1.110 become availble within the portage snapshot? I
 currently use portage-20030930.tar.bz2 and webmin is still at webmin-1.100.
 
 I have done emerge -Dup webmin, emerge -Up webmin, emerge -Dup world and no
 new version of webmin comes up.
 
 I've downloaded webmin-1.110.tar.gz from my local Gentoo mirror in Australia
 and want to know:-
 
 Can I emerge /path_to_downloaded_file/webmin-1.110.tar.gz?
 
 If I can't then how long until webmin-1.110.tar.gz gets added to portage
 snapshots?

webmin-1.1.0 is in portage now but with ~arch KEYWORDS. You can't emerge
/path/to/source because there's no ebuild in the source. Maybe you're
confusing that with GRPs, which are .tbz2's with a precompiled package.

To emerge:
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge webmin
(replace x86 with your arch if different.)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Building packages for another system

2003-10-01 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 15:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Sorry if this is duplicate.  I thought I'd sent it already, but wasn't seeing 
 it come back to me.
 
   I'm looking for options to upgrade a system that's currently
 running another distribution of linux to Gentoo.  This system is
 doing production work, so I want to minimize downtime and have a way
 to backout the new load if I'm having problems. I have an extra hard
 drive that I could swap in.
 
   I've heard that there are ways to prebuild binaries from Gentoo
 sources to speed up an install, but I can't find them documented
 anywhere.
 
   Is it an option to stick the hard drive in a different computer
 and install Gentoo, or will it not likely boot once moved?
 
   Anyway, any ideas would be appreciated.

Take a look at these two guides/sections, in addition to the regular
installation guide. Spider, I hope you're OK with me linking to yours.
=)
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/altinstall.xml#doc_chap7
http://dev.gentoo.org/~spider/migration-guide.html


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Re: [gentoo-user] su not working now

2003-10-01 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 17:00, Bruce E. Harris wrote:
 I added my usually user to games group, and now su does not work.
 I have no idea what I did to break it
 Any recommendations?

You probably neglected to specify current groups
usermod -G newgroup,currentgroup1,currentgroup2


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Re: [gentoo-user] Video card performance

2003-09-30 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 11:34, Bruce E. Harris wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I finally got Gentoo up and running--its great. I have my video card working, 
 but how can I test it to see if its working in accelerated 3D?
 
 I have a ATI FireGL 8800. 

glxinfo | grep render

The 8800 should be compatible with either the DRI project's open-sources
drivers (xfree-drm in Gentoo) or ATI's binary drivers (ati-drivers in
Gentoo).

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ati-faq.xml
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml


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Re: [gentoo-user] Video card performance

2003-09-30 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 15:04, Bruce E. Harris wrote:
 Here's my results. Is this a good thing?
 
 direct rendering: Yes
 OpenGL renderer string: Fire GL 8800 128MB DDR Athlon (3DNow!) (FireGL)

Yes, perfect. You're doing great, everything's set up right.


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Re: [gentoo-user] can't log into gdm with non-root user

2003-09-27 Thread donnie berkholz
On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 20:08, a park wrote:
 i managed to setup gdm so that it appears when i fire up my desktop, but it 
 will not allow me to login to it with another user other than root.  it is 
 not an authentication problem.  it gives me the the session lasted less 
 than ten seconds... error message.  is there a place to set permissions for 
 non-root users to use gdm / x.  btw, i added the name of the machine (in 
 this case flanker) to the /etc/hosts as (127.0.0.1) because i use dhcp.


A few ideas:

Check the permissions on /tmp

$ ls -ld /tmp/ drwxrwxrwt   25 root root   733184 Sep 27 21:06
/tmp/

Try chmod -R 1777 /tmp. Could also try deleting /tmp and recreating it,
then chmod 1777 /tmp.

Delete ~/.Xauthority if that doesn't help.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Submitting ebuilds

2003-09-25 Thread donnie berkholz
On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 03:34, Ross wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Just a quick question about ebuilds - I want to make and ebuild for a 
 closed-source program, and hopefully one day have it added to portage - would 
 it being closed-source prevent it from being added?
 
 thanks, Ross.
 
 
 
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Not at all. The only problem that could come up would be the license; if
we can't distribute it this way, etc.


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -u system going haywire...

2003-09-11 Thread donnie berkholz
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 15:50, Tony Rein wrote:
 On Wednesday 10 September 2003 02:31 pm, HvR wrote:
  i did emerge sync
  then emerge -u system
  it decided to download sys-libs/db-4.0.14-r2
  but the compilation fails at
  !!! Function src_compile, Line 64, Exitcode 1
  !!! (no error message)
 
  now what do i do?
 
  (it has happened on both my gentoo systems)
 Oh, boy, good timing is everything!
 
 I just found this problem myself about 15 minutes ago, and I think I've solved 
 it: I noticed that some error messages further up on the screen said 
 something about no acceptable javac. I did a which javac on the command 
 line, and sure enough, javac wasn't in the path.
 
 I checked in the Sun JDK installation and javac seemed to be there, in:
 
 /opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.1/bin
 
 I made a symbolic link in /usr/bin to the javacc here:
 
 ln -sf /usr/bin/javacc /opt/sun-jkd-1.4.2.1/bin
 
 and reran the emerge command. However, it still didn't work - I got the same 
 error message, but this time it was complaining abou It not finding a 
 suitable jar.
 
 I did a which jar and sure enough, it wasn't in the path.:
 
 which: no jarr in (/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/opt/bin:
 /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/3.2:/opt/Acrobat5:/usr/X11R6/bin:
 /opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2/bin:/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2/jre/bin:/opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2/jre/javaws:
 /usr/qt/3/bin:/usr/kde/3.1/sbin:/usr/kde/3.1/bin)
 
 But then I noticed that the java directories in the path were under 
 /opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2 and not /opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.1. It turned out that the 
 /opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2/ direcotry tree was nearly empty. I deleted that and 
 renamed /opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.1 to /opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2, and reran the emerge 
 command. It worked great.

This is what the utility java-config exists for.
Try java-config --help, java-config --list-available-vms, and
java-config --set-system-vm.


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Re: [gentoo-user] radeon 7500 - module prob - radeonModuleData

2003-09-11 Thread donnie berkholz
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 03:29, Florian Konnertz wrote:
 Hi,
 
 My radeon drivers wont load:
 
 (EE) LoadModule: Module radeon does not have a radeonModuleData data object.
 (II) UnloadModule: radeon
 (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon.o
 (EE) Failed to load module radeon (invalid module, 0)
 
 XFree86 Version 4.3.0
 Linux 2.4.20-gentoo-r5 i686
 # x11 fresh emerged
 # kernel compiled with radeon support
 
 I tried many things, copied some kernel modules around and i am not sure 
 if i made it worse by that.
 I am also confused if the kernel support has anything to do with the x 
 radeon module and at the moment i have no idea how to get this solved.
 
 Please gimme some hints what to try next.
 Logs and cfg details are here.
 http://openspirit.de/noowiki/flok/Groovesurfer

Hi Florian,
Have you seen http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml? Many of the
details you're looking for are there.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: radeon 7500 - module prob - radeonModuleData

2003-09-11 Thread donnie berkholz
On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 16:04, Florian Konnertz wrote:
 donnie berkholz wrote:
  Hi Florian,
  Have you seen http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml? Many of the
  details you're looking for are there.
 
 I haven't seen it! Thanks for the hint! :)
 So i'm just following the steps and here's a question:
 ### from the page:
   2. Install XFree86 and configure your kernel
   ...
   Make sure the Direct Rendering Manager (DRM) is off. The
   XFree-DRM package will provide its own. The kernel's version
   is for XFree 4.2.
 
 what about XFree 4.3. ? The same?

The kernel's DRM only works for xfree 4.2 and lower. Therefore, you
cannot enable DRM in the kernel with xfree 4.3. When you emerge
xfree-drm, it provides an updated DRM that works with xfree 4.3.


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Re: [gentoo-user] opengl

2003-09-11 Thread donnie berkholz
On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 19:02, Svein Harald Soleim wrote:
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 On Friday 12 September 2003 00:54, Mike Williams wrote:
  All my machines already have something (xfree) installed which PROVIDEs
  virtual/opengl and virtual/glu, so can't comment.
 
 Yeah thats the funny part. for so does I. I'm running kde 3.1.2 now and I'm 
 writing this email in kmail. Enemy-Territory works like a dream but some 
 other programs compline about 
 error while loading shared libraries: libGLU.so.1: cannot open shared object 
 file: No such file or directory

Have you tried re-emerging xfree?


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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenGroupware Ebuild?

2003-09-06 Thread donnie berkholz
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On Saturday 06 September 2003 21:01, Denny Schierz wrote:
 hi,

 did anybody see an ebuild for OpenGroupware? The source installation is
 not easy :-/

Neither is writing an ebuild for it. =)
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Re: [gentoo-user] mythtv blocked

2003-09-02 Thread donnie berkholz
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On Tuesday 02 September 2003 14:42, Rob Harris wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 14:22, Marshal Newrock wrote:
  So, mythtv will not install if you have mythfrontend installed.

 Ok, I had figured THAT much out on my own. ;)

 mcclure mythtv # emerge -C mythfrontend

 !!! Couldn't find match for mythfrontend

  unmerge: No packages selected for removal.

 mcclure mythtv # emerge -p mythtv

 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

 Calculating dependencies
 !!! all ebuilds that could satisfy mythtv have been masked.

 !!! Error calculating dependencies. Please correct.

Have you seen this?

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=33534
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Re: [gentoo-user] rsync back up

2003-09-01 Thread donnie berkholz
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On Monday 01 September 2003 15:25, Mike Williams wrote:
 On Monday 01 September 2003 17:16, Pupeno wrote:
  Hello,
  I'm using a modified script of the one that was posted recently to make
  back ups... sometimes when I do the back up, I get this at the end:
  wrote 112104962 bytes  read 202820 bytes  205128.37 bytes/sec
  total size is 41357449389  speedup is 368.25
  rsync error: some files could not be transferred (code 23) at main.c(620)
  It doesn't say why it couldn't tranfer the files nor which files where
  them... so, I'm kinda lost of how to solve them problem, does anybody
  have an idea ? Thanks.

 Do you have any symlinks out of the are you're backup?

 --
 Mike Williams

Often the ownership or permissions are wrong. For example, if you're running 
rsync as a regular user and some files/directories are owned by root, or the 
permissions are bad.
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Re: [gentoo-user] S3 Savage and OpenGL?

2003-08-30 Thread donnie berkholz
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On Friday 29 August 2003 17:44, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
 Is there a way to get opengl to work with a S3 Savage?  Thanks!

The S3 driver with accelerated 3D only works on xfree-4.2.0 with a few 
modifications. There was a Mesa upgrade from xfree 4.2 to 4.3, and the driver 
is being ported to 4.3 by the DRI project at dri.sf.net.

Check the savage mailing list archives at Tim Roberts' site on www.probo.com 
for some hints on building/using the driver on 4.2.

Here's the driver:
http://www.linux.org.uk/~alan/S3.zip
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Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head setup

2003-08-28 Thread donnie berkholz
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On Thursday 28 August 2003 08:53, Frank R Callaghan wrote:
 Hi,

 I have been trying to get a Matrox 450 to run two ViewSonic 17
 on my new gentoo system with no luck :( the card gets detected correctly
 the framebuffers allocated fb0, fb1 I have edited XF86Config as
 per instructions found on the web but initially starting kdm the two
 screens are just copies, after switching to a terminal and back to X
 the first terminal returns the second is black !
 I guess I'm missing something here - Is there a step-by-step setup that
 works for gentoo somewhere ?, any suggestions ?

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=60278
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Re: [gentoo-user] DeCSS : Court Rules That Trade Secrets CanOutweigh Free Speech

2003-08-27 Thread donnie berkholz
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 03:21, Robert Young wrote:
 With this ruling will the American mirrors need to worry about any
legal
 action, or simply not carry any DeCSS code.
 

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/26/technology/26CODE.html?ex=1062561600en=591653f91e34300cei=5062partner=GOOGLE

This seems to only apply to California. In addition, I'd expect it to go
to the U.S. Supreme Court on appeal considering it wasn't really a trade
secret at the time he published it, as the article suggests.

Quote:
But in limiting the power of free speech arguments, the California
Supreme Court also sent the case back to the lower court to review the
trade secrets aspects of the case. Our decision today is quite
limited, the judges stated in their opinion. We merely hold that the
preliminary injunction does not violate the free speech clauses of the
United States and California Constitutions, assuming the trial court
properly issued the injunction under California's trade secret law. On
remand, the Court of Appeal should determine the validity of this
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Re: [gentoo-user] xfree and genkernel

2003-08-27 Thread donnie berkholz
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 03:38, Ing. Martin Gauklitz wrote:
 but after i emerged 'xfree', configured it and tried to start X, i found out, 
 that this kernel config has not activated 'agpgart' by default, that is 
 required by some graphics cards (at least by my onboard intel i810 chipset)... 
  
 is this the default behaviour of 'genkernel'? or is 'agpgart' only used by 
 onboard chipsets? how does 'genkernel' assumes not to activate 'agpgart'? 
 or is this deactivated by default in all gentoo kernel configs? 

I suggest filing a bug on bugs.gentoo.org to have the default kernel
configs for genkernel put agpgart in as a module with all supported
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Re: [gentoo-user] install gentoo without floppy

2003-08-22 Thread donnie berkholz
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On Friday 22 August 2003 15:35, Jan Meier wrote:
 Hello,
 i got a problem with my server because it is an old computer and the
 mainboard doesn't support booting fromo cd. But i want to install gentoo on
 this computer. On the gentoo-ftp i found just cd-isos but no boot floppies.
 How can i install gentoo without using the live cd?
 Are there any unofficial boot floppies?
 Thanx,
 Jan

Take a look at:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/altinstall.xml
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Re: [gentoo-user] can't get my tv to work with gatos drivers

2003-08-22 Thread donnie berkholz
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On Friday 22 August 2003 20:34, gabriel wrote:
 granted, using an all-in-wonder card in linux is a pain in the ass, and i
 obviously wouldn't make that mistake again, but for now, i'm stuck with it
 and i have lost the ability to watch tv on my computer...  anyone care to
 help?  here's the story:

 1. installed gentoo from 1.4rc4 cd including kde using various USE flags.

 2. went to gatos.sourceforge.net, downloaded the latest binary drivers
 decompressed the tarball, and copied the drivers into their assigned
 directories: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri /drivers /multimedia

 3. watched some tv (yay!)

 4. discovered the debug use flag, added it to my USE flags and ran:
   emerge --emptytree world

 5. repeated step 2.

 6. typing xawtv at the command prompt give me:

 (~) $ xawtv
 This is xawtv-3.88, running on Linux/i686 (2.4.20-gentoo-r6)
 can't open /dev/v4l/video0: No such file or directory
 v4l-conf had some trouble, trying to continue anyway
 v4l2: open /dev/v4l/video0: No such file or directory
 v4l2: open /dev/v4l/video0: No such file or directory
 v4l: open /dev/v4l/video0: No such file or directory
 no video grabber device available


 there is no /dev/v4l/anything, but from what i found online, the gatos
 drivers don't actually use it, instead they use the X drivers i copied into
 those directories, but for some reason, i still have no tv...  have you
 seen my tv?

 the only thing i have to offer those who might help is the following
 snippet from /var/log/XFree86.0.log:

   (**) RADEON(0): Using AGP 4x mode
   (II) RADEON(0): AGP Fast Write disabled by default
   (II) RADEON(0): Depth moves disabled by default
   (II) RADEON(0): Page flipping disabled
   (!!) RADEON(0): For information on using the multimedia capabilities
of this adapter, please see http://gatos.sf.net.
   (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp
   (II) resource ranges after preInit:

 everything else works (glxgears a little slow, but i don't play games in
 linux anyway).  i just miss my tv

At a guess, I'd say you recompiled your kernel or emerged a new one and forgot 
video4linux support. But I'm not the expert.
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