Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?
Going by the same reasons of client differences, one could argue we never should have extended HTML beyond the first version of Mosaic. This is insane, of course. Progress is a driving force of technology. I use HTML to style code samples in my postings, and to add some pizaz when e-mailing friends. Plug, I enjoy the interface for it in GMail. If your text-only email client can't even strip out html tags, complain to the developers, not me. Progress should not be held back by the few who think there is any value in plain text. Instead of everyone keeping track of where to send plain text and where to send real text, maybe the recipients should take responsibility for their own preferences. I will remember to use plain text for this list, but let it be known that I don't want to and I shouldn't have to. If i knew I wouldn't get banned for no good reason at all (and it would be no good reason at all, mind you), I'd turn the HTML right back on. With XSLT styling, no less. We've all got our opinions. That's mine, and I know I don't hold it alone, not even on this list, so at least cut the arrogent attitudes about it. On 5/2/05, Dave Nebinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know people say it, but why? It's an extreme waste and provides no value. We're here to post questions and responses, not to create pretty pictures with colored fonts, etc. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] GCC 4.0
On 5/2/05, Neil Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. A lot of stuff simply will not compile with it. The rest tend to produce large and slow executables. I wouldn't use it for anything yet. 3.4.x is the best to date. Are there any evidence of said bloat and poor performance with 4.0 or do you base it on hearsay? :-) I studied a lot of assembly output on the pre-release versions of 4.0 and the optimizer has really improved compared to the older series. I would imagine stuff not compiling is mostly because the C++ standard has moved considerably over the last years, and a lot of software which caters for GCC 2.95 isn't well-formed given the latest revision of the standard. That said, it usually takes a minor revision (i.e. 4.1) before a compiler is generally usable for a distro. I remember all the breakage when GCC 3.0 was introduced.. // Andreas -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] USB Power
Hi all I have gentoo install and a USB 2.0 Hard disk that required 500mA of power Now under Windows XP the drive worked perfectly, but under gentoo it wouldnt work (it have symptoms of not enough power). Now from what i remember about the USB specification 250mA is the max current availiable unless a device requests more. My drive requests it and Windows seems to honour that by providing more power, but gentoo doesnt. What can i do to get more power out of my port (i dont have windows anymore). Thanks for your help. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RESOLVED:Re: [gentoo-user] xawtv compilation error
Al Bayrouni wrote: Hello, I cannot emerge xawtv. The output is: console/fs.o(.text+0x587): In function `fs_connect': : undefined reference to `FSOpenServer' console/fs.o(.text+0x5a4): In function `fs_connect': `fs_open': : undefined reference to `FSQueryXBitmaps16' collect2: ld a retourn1 code d'at d'exution make: *** [console/fbtv] Erreur 1 !!! ERROR: media-tv/xawtv-3.86-r2 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 55, Exitcode 2 !!! (no error message) !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. Bayrouni Thank you very much. Now after adding media-tv/xawtv ~86 in /etc/portage/package.keywords.xawtv is compiled, built an emerged. Bayrouni. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?
On Tue, 3 May 2005, Calvin Spealman wrote: I will remember to use plain text for this list, but let it be known that I don't want to and I shouldn't have to. If i knew I wouldn't get banned for no good reason at all (and it would be no good reason at all, mind you), I'd turn the HTML right back on. With XSLT styling, no less. Don't use plain-text for me. Use it for everyone who, in any way, pays for bandwidth by the byte. This would be people who host servers or have a pay-for-usage account. HTML email is certainly not adding any value for these people. Quite the opposite, in fact. -- That which does not kill me makes me stranger () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign against HTML Email, /\ vCards, and proprietary formats. http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil.shtml -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing 2005.0 with LVM2
On Sun, 01 May 2005 19:18:02 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: Yes, unless its a non-core partition and can be unmounted, and even then it would probably still be safer to do from a livecd. Unless it is XFS, which can only be resized when mounted. -- Neil Bothwick Things which must be shipped together as a set, aren't. pgpfD7sb4JuYD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?
Progress should not be held back by the few who think there is any value in plain text. 1. Its bandwidth, while not much it does add up with fast mailing lists like this. 2. I like to cheap out on computers $20 or less, i find it alot faster with out a GUI. Instead of everyone keeping track of where to send plain text and where to send real text, maybe the recipients should take responsibility for their own preferences. Why not the sender's for now? Travis R. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Dell 8100 Buttons???
On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 10:22 -0600, Kiawud wrote: On 4/30/05, timothy johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been running Gentoo on a Dell 8100 for a while now. I have my volume buttons working, but a couple of updates ago they quit working, wondering if anyone might know about how to fix this? and also one of two updates ago I lost control of my volume from Gnome. yet gkrellm2 and xmms both still are able to control the volume??? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Not sure if this will help, but I use 'xbindkeys' to control my volume/xmms via keyboard hotkeys. Basically, I installed 'xbindkeys' then use 'xbindkeys -k' to find out the control codes for the hotkeys. Then I just bind them to something like 'amixer set PCM +3' (to increase volume). I have this same issue.. I'm gonna presume you use Gnome because I face this under Gnome. (not a KDE person) Anyway.. as the story goes.. it was 1. Worked 2. Update 3. Stopped Working 4. Update 5. Working again what was the update?? AS far as I can tell it was gst-plugins and all the other things that comes with it. Now running gnome-volume-control will not spit out a bunch of errors upon startup and finally presents me with a mixer. (it used not to) As of yesterday, when it pulled in the new bunch of gst-plugins etc, it started working again. -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 15:14:05 up 4:43, 7 users, load average: 1.66, 1.72, 1.89 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?
Hi! Many ML subscribers are getting hundreds of posts every day. So looking through them takes time / is often a pain in the ass. Everything that decreases the screening process has great chances to be skipped, trashed, ignored. If my brain has to filter lots of stuff to get to the actual information / question I tend to just press Del. Since 99% of all posters use simple, clean plain text every HTML-post is something outstanding, needs a second (or third) look - slows me down. You do the math. Regards spox Am Dienstag, den 03.05.2005, 06:12 + schrieb Calvin Spealman: Going by the same reasons of client differences, one could argue we never should have extended HTML beyond the first version of Mosaic. This is insane, of course. Progress is a driving force of technology. I use HTML to style code samples in my postings, and to add some pizaz when e-mailing friends. Plug, I enjoy the interface for it in GMail. If your text-only email client can't even strip out html tags, complain to the developers, not me. Progress should not be held back by the few who think there is any value in plain text. Instead of everyone keeping track of where to send plain text and where to send real text, maybe the recipients should take responsibility for their own preferences. I will remember to use plain text for this list, but let it be known that I don't want to and I shouldn't have to. If i knew I wouldn't get banned for no good reason at all (and it would be no good reason at all, mind you), I'd turn the HTML right back on. With XSLT styling, no less. We've all got our opinions. That's mine, and I know I don't hold it alone, not even on this list, so at least cut the arrogent attitudes about it. On 5/2/05, Dave Nebinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know people say it, but why? It's an extreme waste and provides no value. We're here to post questions and responses, not to create pretty pictures with colored fonts, etc. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Heinz Sporn SPORN it-freelancing Mobile: ++43 (0)699 / 127 827 07 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Snail: Steyrer Str. 20 A-4540 Bad Hall Austria / Europe -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo and XP on hda without causing World War III -- impossible? (help)
On Mon, 02 May 2005 15:27:14 -0400, Robert G. Hays wrote: And JIC you need this, parts 1 through 4 are the primaries, 5 and up *will* be logicals, *if* one of 1 through 4 was designated as an extended partition. Only one primary per disk can be extended. Linux doesn't require any partitions to be primary. Put windows on hda1, make hda2 extended and put all your Linux partitions inside it. -- Neil Bothwick When you finally buy enough memory, you will not have enough disk space. -- Murphy's Computer Laws n°3 pgppNDlms8H21.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] resolution from command line
On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 13:11 -0700, Sami Samhuri wrote: * On Sat Apr-30-2005 at 12:03:37 PM -0700, Richard Fish said: [...] The command you are looking for is fbresolution. Which package provides this program? I cannot find it on my system. :( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ % fbresolution zsh: command not found: fbresolution I don't have fbresolution .. only fbres.. etcat belongs /sbin/fbres Searching for /sbin/fbres in * ... media-gfx/splashutils-0.9.1 -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 15:22:55 up 4:52, 8 users, load average: 1.72, 1.62, 1.77 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] GCC 4.0
Andreas Fredriksson wrote: Are there any evidence of said bloat and poor performance with 4.0 or do you base it on hearsay? :-) Well, I haven't actually heard anything. ;) My statement was based on my experience with compiling the SETI/BOINC clients, mainly. The executables were around 70% larger and computation took around 50% longer. I am comparing with the results I achieved with GCC 3.4.3 using the same compiler flags in each case. Be lucky, Neil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: (OT) WARNING: /etc removed from CONFIG_PROTECT portage-2.0.51.20
On Sun, 01 May 2005 18:30:40 -0400, Robert G. Hays wrote: And most of the 'rest of the w-w-world' are usually in the bottom ten percent by funniest (is that a word? // It is now!), and I asked that same question recently, and Neil said that he has been using some kind of gopher for years to collect them electronically; I suspect that he's put a few in there by hand, too. Neil? I collect them by hand. I have an action defined in my mailer to add the selected text to my tagfile, making theft so much easier :) -- Neil Bothwick That trick NEVER works! pgpn1wJtaWw5g.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] emerge --update world and kde monolithic to splits upgrade
Hi, I've just unmerged the monolithic kde and merged all the kde splits. Everything's OK up to here, but now when I try to merge --update world --deep --pretend it is trying to merge the old monolithic kde, of course complaining of these packages being blocked by the split kde. Why is this happening? Also, I have a version of cedega, and since sometime ago it is trying to upgrade to the newer version, failing of course because I only have the installer for the old version. How can I set-up portage to ignore upgrades to this package in particular? TIA, Ezequiel Tolnay -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: scripts that send emails
Monday 02 May 2005 19.42-n, Phil Sexton ezt írta: On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 10:08, Botykai Zsolt wrote: Monday 02 May 2005 11.27-n, Nick Rout ezt írta: On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 10:50 +0200, Spider wrote: On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 10:35 +0200, Patrick Marquetecken wrote: I'm looking for a smtp mail-client that can send emails from a script, from different from addresses and can use text files as body text, at this time i just looked at pine, but i don't thik thats possible. What are othe posibilities ? its the classical one to do. otherwise you can use /usr/sbin/sendmail gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org (thats all one line of course) and with 'nail' you can add attachments too to your mail - emerge nail. Oops! Apparently you can't use nail with mailx. What MTA do you use? Sendmail? that's ssmtp for me. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc broken
On Sun, 1 May 2005 17:31:32 +0200, Lubos Kolouch wrote: how to convince liborbit not to use i386- ? Have you changed CHOST in /etc/make.conf? -- Neil Bothwick Drink varnish and you'll have a lovely finish. pgpzdcZvlVaLn.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] How to load charset 8859-15
Hi, I have charset ISO 8859-15 in my kernel as module , but how do i activate it TIA Patrick -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?
On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 00:37 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote: Done (just had to do it myself, since I've *finally* got Gentoo reinstalled --who missed me ? :) Yeah I was just thinking a couple of days ago, where has that stroppy Holly gone? why the reinstall? -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?
On Mon, 02 May 2005 23:16:34 +, Alex A. Smith MCP wrote: Humm but when you need HTML email cause you get them, A little bit of a pain to disable them. Also working 19-20 hour days means I can do without (IMHO) needless things like turning off a function that I use. So don't. Just turn it off for this list. Ask yourself, why do you post here? If you want people to help you, rule 1 is don't piss them off. If you really want to continue posting in HTML, no one is going to stop you. Instead, they'll probably ignore you. So look forward to some fruitful discussions with yourself. dunno, next we'll be told to stop using HTML on our sites ¬¬ Here's something you may have thought of. Mail and the web are different media. HTML is specifically designed for web pages, email has always been well served by ASCII. -- Neil Bothwick Microsoft is to Software as McDonalds is to Cuisine pgpWSlv5I5m4w.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?
On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 17:32 -0500, kashani wrote: Is there something especially complicated about going into your settings in Thunderbird and setting gentoo.org as a domain that prefers text emails? He doesn't want to, it's his choice. It is also my choice to filter mails from him which are also in html to my trash folder. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Split emerge into two un-linked machines
Hello, I have my desktop computer with internet access, and my laptop one without. I want to emerge in my laptop downloading the sources on the desktop and copying them to a USB memory stick to transfer them to my laptop and then emerge on my laptop. Is it possible to do so? How can I do it? Thanks! -- Tengo que cambiar mi firma - Francisco Santiago Capel Torres [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc broken
On 5/3/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 1 May 2005 17:31:32 +0200, Lubos Kolouch wrote:
how to convince liborbit not to use i386- ?
Have you changed CHOST in /etc/make.conf?
--
Neil Bothwick
No. It was written in the installation handbook that it is not
advisable if you do
a non-stage1 (stage3) installation.
My make.conf :
# cat /etc/make.conf
# These settings were set by the catalyst build script that
automatically built this stage
# Please consult /etc/make.conf.example for a more detailed example
CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86
USE=X a52 aac aalib acl acpi aim alsa apache2 apm arts audiofile avi
bash-completion bluetooth bonobo bzlib calendar cdb cdparanoia cdr
crypt cups dv dvd dvdr dvdread encode ethereal exif flac ftp gd gif
gnome gphoto2 gpm gtk gtk2 gtkhtml iconv icq imagemagick imap imlib
jabber java javascript jpeg kde lm_sensors maildir mbox mime mmx
mozilla mp3 mpeg msn mysql ncurses nocd offensive ogg oggvorbis opengl
oss pcmcia pda pdflib perl php png qt quicktime readline recode samba
sdl sox spell ssl truetype usb vcd vorbis wifi win32codecs wmf xmms
xosd xvid x86
Lubos
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mandrake Display Manager
Isn't it a themed kdm? and why ask here? go download the mandrake source rpm and see where it came from. On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 20:17 +, Ian K wrote: Hi everyone I saw a screenshot of MDM http://pcc-services.com/distcomp/images/mandrake_login.jpeg and I would like to try it out on my computer, but because gentoo mandrake I DONT want to goto Mandrake. Is the source for MDM seperate, if so, do you know where I could download it? Thanks! -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cups + Samba weird message
Chris Ong wrote: Hi all, After I emerge samba and cups.. i got this message * Caching service dependencies... * Services 'samba' and 'cupsd' have circular * dependency of type 'iuse'; continuing... * rc-update complete. So.. there's nothing much to worry on? rite ? -- Regards, C. K. Ong (Chris) Linux System Engineer RHCT Cert No: 603004347692007 http://www.redhat.com/rhce/rhce603004347692007.html My Directory Sdn. Bhd. Your Open Source Partner. http://www.md.com.my http://www.net.my 2005 This week's fortune: --- ...you might as well skip the Xmas celebration completely, and instead sit in front of your linux computer playing with the all-new-and-improved linux kernel version. (By Linus Torvalds) --- fortune-mod version 1.99.1 POWERED BY BYNARI INSIGHT SERVER - The Enterprise Email Server That Rocks! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Security Violation: A file exists that is not in the manifest
On Tuesday 03 May 2005 13:02, Nelis Lamprecht wrote: Hi, I am getting several of the above/below errors which is preventing me from updating my ports. How do I get around this ? Deleting the files doesn't seem to help. !!! Security Violation: A file exists that is not in the manifest. !!! File: files/digest-xerces-2.3.0 [...] I saw something similar on a box where I copied a portage tree from another computer. After a sync those messages went away. Ciao Francesco -- Linux Version 2.6.9, Compiled #1 Tue Dec 28 11:57:18 CET 2004 One 947MHz Intel Celeron Processor, 255M RAM, 1875.96 Bogomips Total TecSW4 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] can't set root passwd
Jaap van Geffen wrote: I did a stage1-install,gentoo 2005.0 on a amd 64. Everything seemed to be allright. Except that I cannot login as root after booting the new gentoo. I tried it with passwd after chrooting to my root-partition from the installationcd.Allso I tried to blank out the root-entry from /etc/shadow to :: The same things I tried after booting in single-usermode. In any case Iget 'login incorrect' when I try to login as root into my new installation. The weird thing is that I can create a user account and set a password for it in the chrooted envirenment. So I can only login as user and not as root. I forgot something silly? Or I better do it over with par exemple stage3? Thx for help what does your /etc/securetty say? (man securetty) when you added the user did you add it into wheel group? then you should be able to su - from that user (providing right password) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] USE Flags
Hi I am a new gentoo user and I got some doubts about the USE flags, I know this question should be post allot and I apologize for that, but I was wondering, I am not using any USE flags I got GNOME and ALSA on my system; it will make any diference use then, or by not putting any use flags it got all . Sorry for the question, and thank you all. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Backing up remote partitions
Hi, Can anyone here think of a way to back up remote partitions before installing Gentoo? Is there some way to run a command like dd but pipe the output it back to my local machine? What other info might I need to restore the remote machine later? I figure I'll save the partition information from fdisk. Anything else? Thanks much, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't shrink files on myth TV
It's all about running transcode apparent;y. There have been som threads on the MythTV lists about good transcode settings, etc. Possibly look there. - Mark On 5/2/05, Nanayakkara, Pubudu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone knows how to fix this? regards, Pubudu. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Backing up remote partitions
Hi, Can anyone here think of a way to back up remote partitions before installing Gentoo? Is there some way to run a command like dd but pipe the output it back to my local machine? What other info might I need to restore the remote machine later? I figure I'll save the partition information from fdisk. Anything else? partimage has an option to backup a partition to a remote location. So you could run it on the remote computer sending the backed-up partition to your local machine. The online documentation for partimage is excellent: http://www.partimage.org/doc/ Matt -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Backing up remote partitions
Hi, Thanks Allen. The remote machine is an XBox running (at the time I might try this) the GentooX installation CD. I don't have a clue yet whether NFS is even supported at that time. I'll give this a look later this morning. Thanks, Mark On 5/3/05, Allan Spagnol Comar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, you can share the folder on the remote machine with nfs, then you can mount the nfs on your local computer and use dd or anything you like. On 5/3/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Can anyone here think of a way to back up remote partitions before installing Gentoo? Is there some way to run a command like dd but pipe the output it back to my local machine? What other info might I need to restore the remote machine later? I figure I'll save the partition information from fdisk. Anything else? Thanks much, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Backing up remote partitions
Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, Can anyone here think of a way to back up remote partitions before installing Gentoo? Is there some way to run a command like dd but pipe the output it back to my local machine? What other info might I need to restore the remote machine later? I figure I'll save the partition information from fdisk. Anything else? Thanks much, Mark when we did some backups of partitions from one computer to another (and then clone the partition to few other computers), we did it rougly in this way: first make the free space easily compressible, for example zero-ing it ( dd if=/dev/zero of=some_file_on_the_partition till it stops on 'disk full', then rm some_file_..., but there may be better ways) then on the second computer (were we wanted the backup): nc -l -p -q 0 | gunzip | pv backupfile and on the first computer cat /dev/hda1 | pv | gzip | nc othermachine we were backuping the / partition, so we either booted from a cd, or just remounted / readonly pv is a small utility like cat, but prints nice statistics to stderr (speed,...) restoring would mean just doing it the other way around -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Backing up remote partitions
Thanks Andreas. Those are the sorts of commands I had in my mind but was not capable of writing myself. It would seem that all of that is probably supported while an installation CD is in a remote machine. (I hope!) If gzip isn't there then I can try for bzip or not even zip it since the XBox has small partitions and it's here on my local network so copy speeds won't bee too slow. We'll see what happens. I'll write back later and let you know. Thanks, Mark On 5/3/05, Andreas Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/3/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Can anyone here think of a way to back up remote partitions before installing Gentoo? Is there some way to run a command like dd but pipe the output it back to my local machine? What other info might I need to restore the remote machine later? I figure I'll save the partition information from fdisk. Anything else? If the remote partition is mountable, I think you'll be better off by taking a tar copy of the file system so that you're not constrained to restoring it on the exact same size. Try something like this from your local machine (assuming the other machine is called remote): ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] '(cd /src tar zcfp - .)' backup.tar.gz (You can omit the 'z' option if compression isn't important.) If you do want to transfer the entire partition, I would recommend you restore the data using a reverse of the above from a loopback mount of that partition file (see the mount man page). This has the added advantage that is allows you to change the filesystem type and/or parameters of the target disk rather than just dumping over the old partition. However, to transfer the entire partition, you could do something like this: ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] cat /dev/sdc7 mypartition or compress it as well (on the remote side) using: ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'cat /dev/sdc7 | gzip -9' mypartition.gz Disclaimer: all of this is untested, but it shouldn't be too far off from a usable solution :-) Hope this helps, Andreas -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?
On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 05:16:10AM -0400, fire-eyes wrote: On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 17:32 -0500, kashani wrote: Is there something especially complicated about going into your settings in Thunderbird and setting gentoo.org as a domain that prefers text emails? He doesn't want to, it's his choice. It is also my choice to filter mails from him which are also in html to my trash folder. Okay guys, I understand the bandwidth issue. And I personally don't like it when people send HTML tagged emails. But is it really that hard to use ~/.mailcap? I mean if the mail is properly MIME tagged you should have no problem with reading HTML mail with a capable text-client. Mutt does it with `auto_view text/html' in muttrc and text/html lynx -dump -force_html %s; copiousoutput; nametemplate=%s.html in ~/.mailcap It's not like you can actually get ActiveX viruses from lynx W -- * Address: 45 Spelman Hall, Princeton University 08544 * * Phone: x68958 AIM: AngularJerk* *E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: sep.dynalias.net * Mulder: (on human psychopaths) The idea of such a human monster is as frightening as any X-File. The X-Files: Irresistible Sortir en Pantoufles: up 21 days, 23:33 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Backing up remote partitions
YoYo Siska wrote: pv is a small utility like cat, but prints nice statistics to stderr (speed,...) Cool! Didn't knew this one before. Sounds like a very handy commandline tool. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Backing up remote partitions
Yeah, it's interesting although it felt a bit strange typing emerge -pv pv ;-) On 5/3/05, Christoph Gysin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YoYo Siska wrote: pv is a small utility like cat, but prints nice statistics to stderr (speed,...) Cool! Didn't knew this one before. Sounds like a very handy commandline tool. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] something I said?
Hi, Lately my posts have been getting zero response. Maybe no one else has seen them but they appear in my mail box. If someone reads this please reply -- that'll clear up part of the mystery. -mw __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] fix a system suddenly un-networked and needing dhcpcd
Hey, all. I've just moved my work location for a couple of weeks while I house-sit for a relation. At _my_ home, I configure my IP addy and all manually, while sitting behind a router. Here, it seemed like I needed dhcpcd to make my connections, either directy via the cable modem or by 'internet connection sharing' with the XP that sits here. So, here I was, Gentoo box on a network, but dhcpcd not installed so no internet connection. My question is, what would be the 'gentoo' way to fix this problem? I wound up d/l and burning the universal install CD, unpacking the portage and distfiles to /opt/tempport and editing make.conf to use this new folder for portage. That's a lot of bandwidth and media for a very small file needed, no? After I emerged dhcpcd and got connected, I undid the edits. Emerge -uDv system, world, and all seems good. But isn't there a way to tell emerge, hey, I just d/l this file. Install it from here... Like, giving the tarball located on a floppy or something? -- |\ /| | | ~ ~ | \/ | |---| `|` ? ||ichael | |iggins\^ / michael[dot]higgins[at]snet[dot]net -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] something I said?
I got it.. On 5/3/05, maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Lately my posts have been getting zero response. Maybe no one else has seen them but they appear in my mail box. If someone reads this please reply -- that'll clear up part of the mystery. -mw __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- The Disguised Jedi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now you have my $0.02. Or .01 Pounds, .014 Euros, or $0.025 CAN. I'm world-wide BABY! PHP rocks! Knowledge is Power. Power Corrupts. Go to school, become evil Disclaimer: Any disclaimer attached to this message may be ignored. However, I must say that the ENTIRE contents of this message are subject to other's criticism, corrections, and speculations. This message is Certified Virus Free -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?
On Tuesday 03 May 2005 00:37, Holly Bostick wrote: Greg Donald wrote: On 5/2/05, Alex A. Smith MCP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Time straped as it is, I'll type in what ever my Default Email prog wants me to Laziness is no excuse. Takes all of 2 seconds to turn it off. Just to prove it in Thunderbird: Edit=Account Preferences=Composition and Addressing=uncheck Compose Messages in HTML format. Done (just had to do it myself, since I've *finally* got Gentoo reinstalled --who missed me ? :) -- and this is thus a new T-bird install). Really, it's the right thing to do. HTML mail is OK if you're getting an email newsletter from a store or or Activision or whoever (it's not really OK, but at least the product kinda justifies it, and you can reasonably expect that it's safe, being from an authorized source). But there's no reason whatsoever to use HTML on a mailing list that might be read via 1) a text mail client 2) a text newsgroup reader 3) a gui mail client or news reader that doesn't support all the HTML features your mail composition program does 4) a web browser that doesn't support all the HTML features your mail composition program does (hey, there's a lot of GMail users here, and they could be accessing GMail via unsupported browsers, which drops you to Basic HTML view which could mean anything in terms of ultimate mail display, over and above the service's feature limitation that is explained for this condition) 5) on any computer that doesn't have all the same pretty fonts installed (unless you embed your fonts in the mail as well, which would cause at least me to come after you with --at the very minimum-- a big axe, and at preference, a huge amount of somewhat heavier weaponry. I hate people embedding fonts in their emails like my mail server has infinite space to hold their bloody mails so they can be as big as they feel like they want). you forgot point 6,7,8 (more general but still true): 6) Most html mails are just spam, so a lot of people will discard html mails automatically as spam. 7) html in mails is a screaming security problem. Nobody, who does not want to get tricked by a spammer, reads a mail without checking it first for 'bugs', that costs a lot of time (extra 10 secs per mail minimum). 8) some people hear 'html mails' and think automatically of the worst outlook and aol users ... ;o) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] something I said?
On Tuesday 03 May 2005 16:25, maxim wexler wrote: Hi, Lately my posts have been getting zero response. Maybe no one else has seen them but they appear in my mail box. no, there are some, but if nobody knows an answer or the people who do, think, that the answer is so obvious that you should see it for yourself, than you will not get answers ;) for your madplay problem, is maybe artsd/esd/gstreamer or any other of these p sound-daemons running? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update world and kde monolithic to splits upgrade
On 5/3/05, Ezequiel Tolnay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've just unmerged the monolithic kde and merged all the kde splits.Everything's OK up to here, but now when I try to merge --update world--deep --pretend it is trying to merge the old monolithic kde, of course complaining of these packages being blocked by the split kde. Whyis this happening?Also, I have a version of cedega, and since sometime ago it is trying toupgrade to the newer version, failing of course because I only have the installer for the old version. How can I set-up portage to ignoreupgrades to this package in particular?TIA,Ezequiel Tolnay--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing listEzequiel, echo yourpackage /etc/portage/package.mask will do it I think. However, read up on the portage documentation to be sure. Scott Jones
Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?
ASCII? OK... talking about plain text is one thing, but ASCII? That's just dumb. If you are going to use plain text, at least agree that we need something better than ASCII. There are people speaking other languages you know. Thinking we should stick to ASCII is even more a sign of your stubborness than thinking we should stick to unformatted text just because you don't like it, even though you can filter the formatting out and leave the text the way you like it. Oh, but no, since you don't like it, no one should be able to use it at all. Yeah, that makes a lot more sense. On 5/3/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 02 May 2005 23:16:34 +, Alex A. Smith MCP wrote: Humm but when you need HTML email cause you get them, A little bit of a pain to disable them. Also working 19-20 hour days means I can do without (IMHO) needless things like turning off a function that I use. So don't. Just turn it off for this list. Ask yourself, why do you post here? If you want people to help you, rule 1 is don't piss them off. If you really want to continue posting in HTML, no one is going to stop you. Instead, they'll probably ignore you. So look forward to some fruitful discussions with yourself. dunno, next we'll be told to stop using HTML on our sites ¬¬ Here's something you may have thought of. Mail and the web are different media. HTML is specifically designed for web pages, email has always been well served by ASCII. -- Neil Bothwick Microsoft is to Software as McDonalds is to Cuisine -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] something I said?
I see it. I don't remember the content of your other posts so I cannot comment on that. Probably I'm not smart enough to help anyway. Cheers, Mark On 5/3/05, maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Lately my posts have been getting zero response. Maybe no one else has seen them but they appear in my mail box. If someone reads this please reply -- that'll clear up part of the mystery. -mw __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?
On 5/3/05, Travis Rousseau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not the sender's for now? Why not the recipient's for now? One could almost argue free speech for expressing one's self in HTML, but I won't go there. If the sender disables HTML, no one gets it. If the recipient disables HTML, then everyone gets what everyone wants. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] fix a system suddenly un-networked and needing dhcpcd
You can put the file in /usr/portage/distfiles, or set its location as the distfiles directory.On 5/3/05, michael higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, all. I've just moved my work location for a couple of weeks while I house-sit for a relation. At _my_ home, I configure my IP addy and all manually, while sitting behind a router. Here, it seemed like I needed dhcpcd to make my connections, either directy via the cable modem or by 'internet connection sharing' with the XP that sits here. So, here I was, Gentoo box on a network, but dhcpcd not installed so no internet connection. My question is, what would be the 'gentoo' way to fix this problem? I wound up d/l and burning the universal install CD, unpacking the portage and distfiles to /opt/tempport and editing make.conf to use this new folder for portage. That's a lot of bandwidth and media for a very small file needed, no? After I emerged dhcpcd and got connected, I undid the edits. Emerge -uDv system, world, and all seems good. But isn't there a way to tell emerge, hey, I just d/l this file. Install it from here... Like, giving the tarball located on a floppy or something? -- |\/| | |~ ~ | \/ | |---|`|` ? ||ichael | |iggins\^ / michael[dot]higgins[at]snet[dot]net -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] fix a system suddenly un-networked and needing dhcpcd
On Tue, 3 May 2005 10:31:18 -0400, michael higgins wrote: But isn't there a way to tell emerge, hey, I just d/l this file. Install it from here... Like, giving the tarball located on a floppy or something? Download the file and copy it to $DISTDIR - /usr/portage/distfiles by default. -- Neil Bothwick Oxymoron: Reagan memoirs. pgp5tq9FluPIw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] fix a system suddenly un-networked and needing dhcpcd
michael higgins wrote: Hey, all. I've just moved my work location for a couple of weeks while I house-sit for a relation. At _my_ home, I configure my IP addy and all manually, while sitting behind a router. Here, it seemed like I needed dhcpcd to make my connections, either directy via the cable modem or by 'internet connection sharing' with the XP that sits here. So, here I was, Gentoo box on a network, but dhcpcd not installed so no internet connection. My question is, what would be the 'gentoo' way to fix this problem? I wound up d/l and burning the universal install CD, unpacking the portage and distfiles to /opt/tempport and editing make.conf to use this new folder for portage. That's a lot of bandwidth and media for a very small file needed, no? After I emerged dhcpcd and got connected, I undid the edits. Emerge -uDv system, world, and all seems good. But isn't there a way to tell emerge, hey, I just d/l this file. Install it from here... Like, giving the tarball located on a floppy or something? Do 'emerge -vfp dhcpcd', it will tell you which file to download. Download it elsewhere, bring it on a floppy/cd/write down 1s and 0s, and copy that file over to /usr/portage/distfiles. Done. People over a dial-up connection do this regularly for large files... -- [Name ] :: [Matan I. Peled] [Location ] :: [Israel] [Public Key] :: [0xD6F42CA5] [Keyserver ] :: [keyserver.kjsl.com] encrypted/signed plain text preferred signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?
If the sender disables HTML, no one gets it. If the recipient disables HTML, then everyone gets what everyone wants. and you're still wasting the bandwidth of the server and users. granted, for the individual user, the bandwidth used isn't that much, but think about the thousands of messages that the server has to send out for each mail it gets in. it adds up quick there. -- trey -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?
On 5/3/05, Calvin Spealman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/3/05, Travis Rousseau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not the sender's for now? Why not the recipient's for now? One could almost argue free speech for expressing one's self in HTML, but I won't go there. Sorry i should have said that differently, Why not the sender's for now out of courtesy. If the sender disables HTML, no one gets it. If the recipient disables HTML, then everyone gets what everyone wants. You know with thunderbird you can set it per address? Travis R. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?
Trey Gruel wrote: and you're still wasting the bandwidth of the server and users. granted, for the individual user, the bandwidth used isn't that much, but think about the thousands of messages that the server has to send out for each mail it gets in. it adds up quick there. This whole thread is a waste of bandwidth ;-) flog deadhorse (tongue in cheek, of course) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.2 - Release Date: 02/05/2005 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?
I'm sorry if this disagreement has escalated more than it should have, but I'm actually very partial to my end of this discussion. I know all the reasons people have to argue against my point of view here, but I just find it to be a rather arrogent point of view. On 5/3/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who said the text should be unformatted? There is a lot you can do with text to improve the readability and ensure your message is conveyed correctly, without filling it with useless tags in an effort to firce my mailer to use your preferences. How is me sending in plain text not forcing my mailer to use your preferences? No one said you can't use it, but its use is not welcome on this list (and many others). You an I are visitors here and as such, good manners dictate that we should abide by the wishes of our hosts. One of those wishes is to not use HTML mails. That's exactly what I have a problem with. The community tries to claim a love of technology, standards and openess, yet we hold on to the past in the oddest ways, achieving nothing but to hold back the rest of us. I'm not saying HTML is wrong, I'm not saying HTML is bad, but it is inappropriate for this list. All in all, I'm saying that everyone should have a choice in how they send and in how they view. And putting the responsibility of the sender only unfairly forces your preferences on both the sender and on many of the recipients. But, if the responsibilty was placed in your hands, those who don't want to receive the HTML, then you could easily have it filtered out of the e-mails, as easily as I could change my settings not to send them as HTML, as you request. The difference is in who the placement of the responsibility affects. It is unjust is take from all for the sake a few, when the few can just as easily accomodate themselves without the ill of the all. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Backing up remote partitions
Mark Knecht wrote: Yeah, it's interesting although it felt a bit strange typing emerge -pv pv I prefer emerge -av pv ;) That way you don't have to re-run the search and everything if it's all OK! :D -- Jonathan Wright mail at djnauk dot co dot uk Life has no meaning unless we can enjoy what we've been given -- Running on Gentoo Linux (2.6.10-gentoo-r7-djnauk-b03 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2100+ GNU/Linux) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?
Calvin Spealman wrote: Let's be honest, that's a fault of e-mail itself, which is inherently a horrible protocol anyway. I'm just saying lets do the best we can with what we've got. it isn't like the bandwidth is anything at all compared to the bloated headers and redundant repeating of messages in every reply. Prhps f w mss t vwls w cn sv sm bndwdth ;-) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.2 - Release Date: 02/05/2005 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-laptop] Gentoo + T40?
Sorry for the cross post, I originally posted this message to the wrong list. It won't happen again I promise ;-) [actually I screwed up the address in the cross post anyway, so ignore that] I've solved the heating problems at last. I removed the IBM ACPI support from the kernel and installed the version from portage, swapped speedfreq with cpufreqd, loaded the modules and now everything seems to be running nicely. I'm still hitting 70-71 degrees when compiling, which is still a concern - but to aid my paranoia, I've written a couple of scripts that enable me to cut down the CPU speed to 1/3 or 2/3 of full power, which keeps me at a more comfortable 45-50 or 55-60 degrees whilst compiling. Thanks for your help Jordi, Andrew, Eugene and 'AR' :) Cliff the happy Gentoo user -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.2 - Release Date: 02/05/2005 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] postfix logging
Hi! I´ve installed a fresh Gentoo Server and installed Postfix and syslog-ng on it. Now I´m missing the fluffy /var/log/mail logfile ... ;-( Any clues - where to tweak this? Thanks -- +++ Neu: Echte DSL-Flatrates von GMX - Surfen ohne Limits +++ Always online ab 4,99 Euro/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Backing up remote partitions
On 5/3/05, Jonathan Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :D Someday I need to find a good site for all these little thingies... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gnome: emerge dies on gedit
I get the error below emerging the latest gnome stuff. I'm not sure what to do from here. --Kurt ./../po/.intltool-merge-cache Found cached translation database Merging translations into spell.gedit-plugin. /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -march=pentium4 -O3 -pipe -o libspell.la -rpath /usr/lib/gedit-2/plugins -module -avoid-version spell.lo gedit-spell-checker.lo gedit-spell-checker-dialog.lo gedit-spell-language-dialog.lo gedit-automatic-spell-checker.lo gedit-spell-checker-dialog-marshal.lo -laspell -lpopt grep: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5.4/libstdc++.la: No such file or directory /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5.4/libstdc++.la: No such file or directory libtool: link: `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5.4/libstdc++.la' is not a valid libtool archive make[4]: *** [libspell.la] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gedit-2.8.3/work/gedit-2.8.3/plugins/spell' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gedit-2.8.3/work/gedit-2.8.3/plugins/spell' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gedit-2.8.3/work/gedit-2.8.3/plugins' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gedit-2.8.3/work/gedit-2.8.3' make: *** [all] Error 2 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?
I believe this tradition, and other's like it which hold on to old idioms for little sensible reason, are more of a challenge to the community values than anything I can say. On 5/3/05, Covington, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The bottom line is that on any technical mailing list, it's tradition not to use HTML. You can't argue against it using technical reasons, people aren't going to change their minds about it. And there might not even be strong technical reasons for it anymore: just about all browsers and email clients support HTML now, including pine and mutt, just about everyone has a high-speed connection, servers have faster connections, disks and capacity, etc. but it is the tradition. Heed the proverb When in Rome... - to challenge that tradition is to go against community values. --- Chris Covington IT Plus One Health Management 75 Maiden Lane Suite 801 NY, NY 10038 646-312-6269 http://www.plusoneactive.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?
On 5/3/05, Calvin Spealman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but I just find it to be a rather arrogent point of view. Maybe so, but it doesn't change the fact that HTML is not acceptable on this list. Go ironfroggy, play with your MS buddies.. leave the arrogance to us. -- Greg Donald Zend Certified Engineer http://destiney.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] postfix logging
I´ve installed a fresh Gentoo Server and installed Postfix and
syslog-ng on it.
Now I´m missing the fluffy /var/log/mail logfile ... ;-(
Any clues - where to tweak this?
You can grab the relevant bits from my syslog-ng.conf file below...
Dave
server syslog-ng # cat syslog-ng.conf
options { sync (0);
time_reopen (10);
log_fifo_size (1000);
long_hostnames(off);
use_dns (no);
use_fqdn (no);
create_dirs (no);
keep_hostname (yes);
stats(43200);
};
source src {unix-stream(/dev/log);
unix-stream(/home/named/dev/log);
internal();
pipe(/proc/kmsg);
udp();
tcp(max_connections(10));
};
destination authlog { file(/var/log/authorize.log perm(0644) ); };
destination syslog { file(/var/log/syslog.log perm(0644) ); };
destination cron { file(/var/log/cron.log perm(0644) ); };
destination daemon { file(/var/log/daemon.log perm(0644) ); };
destination kernel { file(/var/log/kernel.log perm(0644) ); };
destination lpr { file(/var/log/lpr.log perm(0644) ); };
destination user { file(/var/log/user.log perm(0644) ); };
destination uucp { file(/var/log/uucp.log perm(0644) ); };
destination mail { file(/var/log/mail.log perm(0644) ); };
destination news { file(/var/log/news.log perm(0644) ); };
destination debug { file(/var/log/debug.log perm(0644) ); };
destination messages { file(/var/log/messages.log perm(0644) ); };
destination everything { file(/var/log/everything.log perm(0644) ); };
destination console { usertty(root); };
destination console_all { file(/dev/tty12); };
destination winux { file(/var/log/winux.log perm(0644) ); };
filter f_winux { host(winux); };
filter f_auth { facility(auth); };
filter f_authpriv { facility(auth, authpriv); };
filter f_syslog { not facility(authpriv, mail); };
filter f_cron { facility(cron); };
filter f_daemon { facility(daemon); };
filter f_kernel { facility(kern); };
filter f_lpr { facility(lpr); };
filter f_mail { facility(mail); };
filter f_news { facility(news); };
filter f_user { facility(user); };
filter f_uucp { facility(uucp); };
filter f_debug { not facility(auth, authpriv, news, mail); };
filter f_messages { level(info..warn) and not facility(auth, authpriv, mail,
news); };
filter f_local { level(debug..emerg) and not facility(auth, authpriv); };
filter f_everything { filter(f_local) or filter(f_winux); };
filter f_emergency { level(emerg); };
filter f_info { level(info); };
filter f_notice { level(notice); };
filter f_warn { level(warn); };
filter f_crit { level(crit); };
filter f_err { level(err); };
log { source(src); filter(f_winux); destination(winux); };
log { source(src); filter(f_authpriv); destination(authlog); };
log { source(src); filter(f_syslog); destination(syslog); };
log { source(src); filter(f_cron); destination(cron); };
log { source(src); filter(f_daemon); destination(daemon); };
log { source(src); filter(f_kernel); destination(kernel); };
log { source(src); filter(f_lpr); destination(lpr); };
log { source(src); filter(f_mail); destination(mail); };
log { source(src); filter(f_news); destination(news); };
log { source(src); filter(f_user); destination(user); };
log { source(src); filter(f_uucp); destination(uucp); };
log { source(src); filter(f_debug); destination(debug); };
log { source(src); filter(f_messages); destination(messages); };
log { source(src); filter(f_emergency); destination(console); };
log { source(src); filter(f_everything); destination(everything); };
log { source(src); destination(console_all); };
--
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Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?
On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 04:40:52PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: 8) some people hear 'html mails' and think automatically of the worst outlook and aol users ... ;o) Beg to differ here, but most of the emails I got from my friends using AOL have properly used MIME-Multipart/Alternative so it has BOTH a text/plain version and a text/html version. And I command mutt to choose the text/plain one for MY viewing. The HTML-i-ness only breaks on people whose mail clients have broken forwards when it comes to MIME, that attaches a HTML message as part of a plain text message and marks the whole damn thing as text/plain. W -- * Address: 45 Spelman Hall, Princeton University 08544 * * Phone: x68958 AIM: AngularJerk* *E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: sep.dynalias.net * Those who jump off a Paris bridge are in Seine. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 22 days, 2:49 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?
On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 03:00:34PM +, Calvin Spealman wrote: On 5/3/05, Travis Rousseau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not the sender's for now? Why not the recipient's for now? One could almost argue free speech for expressing one's self in HTML, but I won't go there. let's not let politics get into it. If the sender disables HTML, no one gets it. If the recipient disables HTML, then everyone gets what everyone wants. if sender uses multipart/alternate MIME, everybody gets what everyone wants. Besides, if you've already wasted bandwidth on HTML tags, whats a little big more for a copy of the plain text? q= W -- * Address: 45 Spelman Hall, Princeton University 08544 * * Phone: x68958 AIM: AngularJerk* *E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: sep.dynalias.net * The only skills I have the patience to learn are those that have no real application in life. -- Calvin Sortir en Pantoufles: up 22 days, 2:51 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?
On Tuesday 03 May 2005 17:38, Covington, Chris wrote: The bottom line is that on any technical mailing list, it's tradition not to use HTML. You can't argue against it using technical reasons, people aren't going to change their minds about it. And there might not even be strong technical reasons for it anymore: just about all browsers and email clients support HTML now, including pine and mutt, just about everyone has a high-speed connection, servers have faster connections, disks and capacity, etc. but it is the tradition. Heed the proverb When in Rome... - to challenge that tradition is to go against community values. not everybody has high speed, and some of the high speed users are having volume caps. So please, I like to waste my share of the monthy volume on downloading, not html-mails -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?
MS? What makes you think I have anything to do with Microsoft or Microsoft software? My HTML messages are sent straight from good-ole gmail. On 5/3/05, Greg Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/3/05, Calvin Spealman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but I just find it to be a rather arrogent point of view. Maybe so, but it doesn't change the fact that HTML is not acceptable on this list. Go ironfroggy, play with your MS buddies.. leave the arrogance to us. -- Greg Donald Zend Certified Engineer http://destiney.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Emerge break
Hi, while finishing an emerge process of KDE, the system shutdown. Problem!! The process has been made on a PIII. Slow System, Two days working. If I emerge again KDE, what would happens? Emerge will continue on the point i t has break? or it will begin again from the beginning? If it begins again could there be any problem whit the files it have generated the first emerge process? What is the best way to correct that? Thanks in advance, Pere -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?
On 5/3/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is arrogant about saying when in Rome...? Every forum has its conventions of accepted behaviour. For this forum. those conventions include non-HTML postings in English. And what did they do in Rome if you did not do as in Rome? They burned you. Now, that is some arrogence right there. They are not my preferences, they are the preferences of the list. There's a big difference. But to take your point, with plain text, each viewer chooses how their mailer displays it, which font, how large, what colour etc. And, it is against the preferences of this list that I am making my argument. I'm simply voicing my own opinion that the preferences of the mailing list, the default, if you will, should be an acceptable policy of formatted messages, in HTML. If individual users choose to prefer text, then they are free to view the messages in any way they see fit. If they want to filter out the HTML and set their own fonts to view in, as many mailer will allow, so be it. Furthermore, I want to announce to everyone in this conversation that I am done with it. I make one little comment and it has been blown out of proportion. Everyone is getting far too worked up over this, including myself. I just hope that at least some of you will consider what I've had to say, and maybe the list maintainers will even take it into consideration that a policy change might be in order, given proper care of all the issues and angles invovled. Have a nice day. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome: emerge dies on gedit
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I wonder how you could get a gcc version 3.3.5.4 in the first place. :) There is no such thing in the portage tree. Anyway, try to run fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.5.4 and see if that helps. Regards, Karsten Kurt Guenther wrote: | I get the error below emerging the latest gnome stuff. I'm not sure | what to do from here. | | --Kurt | | | | ./../po/.intltool-merge-cache | Found cached translation database | Merging translations into spell.gedit-plugin. | /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -march=pentium4 | -O3 -pipe -o libspell.la -rpath /usr/lib/gedit-2/plugins -module | -avoid-version spell.lo gedit-spell-checker.lo | gedit-spell-checker-dialog.lo gedit-spell-language-dialog.lo | gedit-automatic-spell-checker.lo gedit-spell-checker-dialog-marshal.lo | -laspell -lpopt | grep: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5.4/libstdc++.la: No such | file or directory | /bin/sed: can't read | /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5.4/libstdc++.la: No such file or | directory | libtool: link: `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5.4/libstdc++.la' | is not a valid libtool archive | make[4]: *** [libspell.la] Error 1 | make[4]: Leaving directory | `/var/tmp/portage/gedit-2.8.3/work/gedit-2.8.3/plugins/spell' | make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 | make[3]: Leaving directory | `/var/tmp/portage/gedit-2.8.3/work/gedit-2.8.3/plugins/spell' | make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 | make[2]: Leaving directory | `/var/tmp/portage/gedit-2.8.3/work/gedit-2.8.3/plugins' | make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 | make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gedit-2.8.3/work/gedit-2.8.3' | make: *** [all] Error 2 | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCd7wQgUNlsZQzobwRArC1AJ9/mHXA/XIhFbKJHz8HXxfTROkcTwCgt+b3 6Tj4UMDabdJIkGWC+h43Q+s= =Fh/j -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Backing up remote partitions
Jonathan Wright wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: Yeah, it's interesting although it felt a bit strange typing emerge -pv pv I prefer emerge -av pv ;) That way you don't have to re-run the search and everything if it's all OK! :D my favorite is emerge -avt pv. This will show you the dependencies in a tree view, which makes it easy to guess which package depends on which. I've aliased it to pmerge (for pretend emerge). Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?
Calvin Spealman wrote: MS? What makes you think I have anything to do with Microsoft or Microsoft software? My HTML messages are sent straight from good-ole gmail. sarcasmTypical blinkered response Calvin. You're either with us or against us. I'm sure I've heard that before somewhere.../sarcasm I've watched this discussion in the disbelief that people can hold the views of others in such contempt. I'm actually not fussed either way, but if pushed I'd say that plain text is probably the better format to use for a technical mailing list .. however that doesn't mean for a second that I disagree with your point of view, and I certainly won't label you as a result - that would just be plain rude. Personally I believe it's the responsibility of: - The sender to send in the format deemed acceptable by the host - The recipient to receive in the format they prefer - The host to ensure any formatting rules are applied In other words, there's room for everyone to get what they want - and it is possible for everyone to play nicely without petty arguments. Incidentally, I've just been back to the Gentoo mailing lists page, and re-read my welcome email and there is no mention of any rules against sending HTML emails. I may be mistaken. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.2 - Release Date: 02/05/2005 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge break
Thanks, The sysem has been rebooted. I get an error after emerge --resume Emerge: It seems we have nothing to resume... Thanks again, Pere On 5/3/05, Karsten Baumgarten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 emerge --resume Pere Gentoo wrote: | Hi, | | while finishing an emerge process of KDE, the system shutdown. Problem!! | | The process has been made on a PIII. Slow System, Two days working. | | If I emerge again KDE, what would happens? Emerge will continue on the | point i t has break? or it will begin again from the beginning? If it | begins again could there be any problem whit the files it have | generated the first emerge process? | | What is the best way to correct that? | | Thanks in advance, | | Pere | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCd7uwgUNlsZQzobwRAmnxAJ9pWjqPNDMdOhYf1ATXHdq/+WMenACfd6Ri E+gH4X05XJprB2ZViJJAuFI= =0Q/U -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge break
Thanks, Two questions: A.- I could repet emerge with no problem, my questions are: 1. Is there any way to resume the process and win time? 2. If not. Would be any problem with the files that the first partial emerge would have left on the file system? B.- I'm new on Gentoo, well, really I'm new on linux. 1.- emerge -avt, shows me which ebuilds will install, isn't it? Is it possible to select some of them but not the others? 2.- the sufixes of each ebuild which give me emerge -avt, are the required/optional/suggested USE switches? Thanks again, Pere On 5/3/05, Christoph Gysin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pere Gentoo wrote: If I emerge again KDE, what would happens? Emerge will continue on the point i t has break? or it will begin again from the beginning? If it begins again could there be any problem whit the files it have generated the first emerge process? IIRC kde is a metapackage, so its not really one big package. It just depends on everything that is needed. Try: emerge -avt kde, it will show what needs to be merged to complete kde. What is the best way to correct that? $ emerge -avt kde If it fails at the same point (with the same error message), try searching bugzilla [1] with the package name and version. If you can't find anything related, post the first error message in a reply to this thread. Christoph [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] can't set root passwd
On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 13:26 +0200, YoYo Siska wrote: Jaap van Geffen wrote: The weird thing is that I can create a user account and set a password for it in the chrooted envirenment. So I can only login as user and not as root. what does your /etc/securetty say? (man securetty) when you added the user did you add it into wheel group? then you should be able to su - from that user (providing right password) great! I added the user to the wheel group and now I can su to root. Thank you My /etc/seruretty says: tts/0 Thats what is said to put there in the handbook. An idea why I can't (directly) login as root? -- jaap -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge break
Hi, Pere Gentoo wrote: Thanks, Two questions: A.- I could repet emerge with no problem, my questions are: 1. Is there any way to resume the process and win time? 2. If not. Would be any problem with the files that the first partial emerge would have left on the file system? B.- I'm new on Gentoo, well, really I'm new on linux. 1.- emerge -avt, shows me which ebuilds will install, isn't it? Is it possible to select some of them but not the others? 2.- the sufixes of each ebuild which give me emerge -avt, are the required/optional/suggested USE switches? Thanks again, Pere Haven't tested it but i know ;) (this ML) that you must also have FEATURES=...keepwork... as an option in your /etc/make.conf file. Then use 'emerge --resume' to continue, but don't emerge anything before running this command. It can resume only last emerge IMHO. The logic tells me this (keepwork) will cost you some extra space, or maybe not? HTH. Rumen On 5/3/05, Christoph Gysin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pere Gentoo wrote: If I emerge again KDE, what would happens? Emerge will continue on the point i t has break? or it will begin again from the beginning? If it begins again could there be any problem whit the files it have generated the first emerge process? IIRC kde is a metapackage, so its not really one big package. It just depends on everything that is needed. Try: emerge -avt kde, it will show what needs to be merged to complete kde. What is the best way to correct that? $ emerge -avt kde If it fails at the same point (with the same error message), try searching bugzilla [1] with the package name and version. If you can't find anything related, post the first error message in a reply to this thread. Christoph [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udev and v4l and xawtv
On Tue, 3 May 2005, Al Bayrouni wrote: How to create /dev/v4l/video* ? I am using udev under kernel-2.6.11-r6. I created the /dev/v4l/dev* manually and even using the MAKEDEV script in linux/Documention but this doeasn't work. No changes if I reboot the system, Still no /dev/v4l/video* or /dev/video*. I am using pure udev (in grub I add gentoo=nodevfs). Are you using kernel modules? If so, have you loaded the 'videodev.ko' module? With the default udev installation this should give you a '/dev/v4l/video*' (after you have loaded the module)... Best regards Peter K -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge break
Rumen Yotov wrote: Two questions: A.- I could repet emerge with no problem, my questions are: 1. Is there any way to resume the process and win time? Short answer: No. Long answer: read on below. 2. If not. Would be any problem with the files that the first partial emerge would have left on the file system? No. If the package failed to compile, nothing has been installed in your system. If it failed during copying the files to your real system and emerge it again, they simply get overwritten. B.- I'm new on Gentoo, well, really I'm new on linux. Welcome to gentoo, the best flavour of linux! 1.- emerge -avt, shows me which ebuilds will install, isn't it? Is it possible to select some of them but not the others? No. All the other shown packages necessary to build and run the package your about to install. 2.- the sufixes of each ebuild which give me emerge -avt, are the required/optional/suggested USE switches? These are the USE-switches available to customize this package. [ebuild R ] net-misc/unison-2.12.2 -doc +gtk +gtk2 0 kB Here, unison gets built with gtk and gtk2 support, but without documentation. Haven't tested it but i know ;) (this ML) that you must also have FEATURES=...keepwork... as an option in your /etc/make.conf file. Then use 'emerge --resume' to continue, but don't emerge anything before running this command. It can resume only last emerge IMHO. The logic tells me this (keepwork) will cost you some extra space, or maybe not? FEATURE=keepwork will cost you *a lot* of diskspace. If you build a complete system with this enabled, be prepared to spend a 50Gb+ disk just for /var/tmp/portage. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge break
On 5/3/05, Christoph Gysin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rumen Yotov wrote: Two questions: A.- I could repet emerge with no problem, my questions are: 1. Is there any way to resume the process and win time? Short answer: No. Long answer: read on below. 2. If not. Would be any problem with the files that the first partial emerge would have left on the file system? No. If the package failed to compile, nothing has been installed in your system. If it failed during copying the files to your real system and emerge it again, they simply get overwritten. B.- I'm new on Gentoo, well, really I'm new on linux. Welcome to gentoo, the best flavour of linux! 1.- emerge -avt, shows me which ebuilds will install, isn't it? Is it possible to select some of them but not the others? No. All the other shown packages necessary to build and run the package your about to install. 2.- the sufixes of each ebuild which give me emerge -avt, are the required/optional/suggested USE switches? These are the USE-switches available to customize this package. [ebuild R ] net-misc/unison-2.12.2 -doc +gtk +gtk2 0 kB Here, unison gets built with gtk and gtk2 support, but without documentation. Then how to specify I would like the documentation too. Adding the USE flag on make.conf? or as an optional parameter on emerge? If I leave make.conf with no one USE flag, then each package will install with its default flags, isn't it? Would this be a good idea for a begginer? FEATURE=keepwork will cost you *a lot* of diskspace. If you build a complete system with this enabled, be prepared to spend a 50Gb+ disk just for /var/tmp/portage. I see keepwork is not a really good idea. Christoph Thanks for all Would be easy to go inside Gentoo with an active list like this. I think, no? Pere -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome: emerge dies on gedit
Karsten Baumgarten wrote: I wonder how you could get a gcc version 3.3.5.4 in the first place. :) There is no such thing in the portage tree. Just lucky. Anyway, try to run fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.5.4 and see if that helps. That worked. Thanks. --Kurt -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE Flags
On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 08:42 -0300, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: Hi I am a new gentoo user and I got some doubts about the USE flags, I know this question should be post allot and I apologize for that, but I was wondering, I am not using any USE flags I got GNOME and ALSA on my system; it will make any diference use then, or by not putting any use flags it got all . Sorry for the question, and thank you all. Don't mind,but what's your question?? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Security Violation: A file exists that is not in the manifest
Nelis Lamprecht wrote: Hi, I am getting several of the above/below errors which is preventing me from updating my ports. How do I get around this ? Deleting the files doesn't seem to help. !!! Security Violation: A file exists that is not in the manifest. I guess u clone portage tree from another PC repeatedly, but forgot to add --delete flag to rsync command. emerge sync should help, RTFM rsync too. noro -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update world and kde monolithic to splits upgrade
On Tuesday 03 May 2005 02:47 am, Ezequiel Tolnay wrote: Hi, I've just unmerged the monolithic kde and merged all the kde splits. Everything's OK up to here, but now when I try to merge --update world --deep --pretend it is trying to merge the old monolithic kde, of course complaining of these packages being blocked by the split kde. Why is this happening? It was doing the same thing for me too I figured out there was an old kdeaddons package causing the problem. You can find out by looking for any slotted kde package it wants to emerge when you do an: emerge --update --deep --tree world -- Chris Linux 2.6.11-gentoo-r6 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 17:05:25 up 1 day, 19:28, 7 users, load average: 1.59, 1.58, 1.01 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] evolution
Sometimes you get a size of zero for an evolution pane. Looking carefully through your alcoholic fog, grab the edge of the left side of the right pane (the calendar pane) and drag it to the right. It looks like a narrow, dimpled vertical bar. BillK On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 21:27 +0100, José Moreira wrote: compiled evolution 2.2.1.1 *hic* and it doesnt offer task as candendar features :| *hick* 99 bottles on my desk *hick* *hick* -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE Flags
Jaap van Geffen wrote: On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 08:42 -0300, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: Hi I am a new gentoo user and I got some doubts about the USE flags, I know this question should be post allot and I apologize for that, but I was wondering, I am not using any USE flags I got GNOME and ALSA on my system; it will make any diference use then, or by not putting any use flags it got all . Sorry for the question, and thank you all. Don't mind,but what's your question?? My question is if I build a system, like installing software and I do not have setted any USE flags this will change the software, like I emerge anjuta ( Development IDE for Gnome ) without gtk or gnome Flags will make any diference ? If will make diference, how do I know what flags each package need. Sory the poor english, but this are my doubts. Thank you. Allan
Re: [gentoo-user] USE Flags
quoth the Allan Spagnol Comar: Jaap van Geffen wrote: On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 08:42 -0300, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: Hi I am a new gentoo user and I got some doubts about the USE flags, I know this question should be post allot and I apologize for that, but I was wondering, I am not using any USE flags I got GNOME and ALSA on my system; it will make any diference use then, or by not putting any use flags it got all . Sorry for the question, and thank you all. Don't mind,but what's your question?? My question is if I build a system, like installing software and I do not have setted any USE flags this will change the software, like I emerge anjuta ( Development IDE for Gnome ) without gtk or gnome Flags will make any diference ? If will make diference, how do I know what flags each package need. Sory the poor english, but this are my doubts. Thank you. Allan Adding '-v' to your emerge commands will provide a list of what use flags each package can use, and how your currently set use flags relate to that. $ equery uses packagename will also display this info, as well as a brief description of what the flag does. Sometimes though, these sentences are not too descriptive. In any event, the surefire way to see what a use flag is doing is to look at the ebuild script. -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org ...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected... - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 pgpNA2IjmCLMc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?
Keziah W wrote: Yes, it is. HTML wastes bandwidth for every message though. True, I was just trying to inject some light humour into the otherwise pointless situation :) flog deadhorse Don't you mean flog deadhorse? :P -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.2 - Release Date: 02/05/2005 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] fglrxconfig question
Hi, Thanks for the encouragement. Now I've hit another roadblock on the path to gentoo enlightenment -- I hope it's not too obvious! I googled it to no avail. I just emerged ati-drivers for a Radeon 9250 vid-card then ran fglrxconfig. On the very first section Mouse the program asks for the mouse port type and gives three choices, 1.serial, 2.ps2/usb, 3.bus-type. [2] (my mouse type) is already selected so I hit enter and get, Illegal instruction and the progam aborts. OK, so I manually enter 2, same thing, Illegal instruction. Doesn't matter what I enter I get Illegal instruction. I followed the Gentoo ATI Radeon FAQ and config'd the kernel just like it said. No joy. Anybody got any pointers? -mw __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] error compiling gtk-perl-0.7009
Compiling gtk-perl (needed by dvdrip ) I get this error: gtktypexp.c:1:30: gtk/gtktypeutils.h : Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type locate gtktypeutils.h gives /usr/include/gtk-1.2/gtk/gtktypeutils.h and /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtktypeutils.h so I tried to make a symlink /usr/include/gtk - /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk or /usr/include/gtk - /usr/include/gtk-1.2/gtk without success. I found many reports of the problem on the net but no solution. Any help appreciated! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] kde kwifimanager blocked by kdenetwork
locutus ~ # emerge -Dav kwifimanager These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdenetwork-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kwifimanager-3.4.0) [ebuild N] kde-base/kwifimanager-3.4.0 +arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdexdeltas -xinerama 7,155 kB Total size of downloads: 7,155 kB !!! Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be installed !!!on the same system. -Original Message- From: John Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:35 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] kde kwifimanager On Thursday 28 April 2005 22:35, LostSon wrote: Hello I seem to be having a problem with Kwifimanager when i try to run it i get error while loading shared llibraries: libiw.so.28 from my googling and looking around this lib is in wireless-tools i recompiled this package and still no luck, any ideas, thanks. Try recompiling KWifimanager. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] fglrxconfig question
Greetings, not sure about the illegal instruction issue, but with a Radeon 9250 you can use the drivers provided by xorg, I think, for 3D goodness etc. and don't need to use fglrx. Have a look at this: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml HTH max -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?
Exactly ... but it's still has some amusement value Kristopher W. Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Cliff Rowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 10:37 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts? Trey Gruel wrote: and you're still wasting the bandwidth of the server and users. granted, for the individual user, the bandwidth used isn't that much, but think about the thousands of messages that the server has to send out for each mail it gets in. it adds up quick there. This whole thread is a waste of bandwidth ;-) flog deadhorse (tongue in cheek, of course) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.2 - Release Date: 02/05/2005 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update world and kde monolithic to splits upgrade
Scott Jones wrote: echo yourpackage /etc/portage/package.mask will do it I think. However, read up on the portage documentation to be sure. Thanks, it worked :) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE Flags
Mark Knecht wrote: My question is if I build a system, like installing software and I do not have setted any USE flags this will change the software, like I emerge anjuta ( Development IDE for Gnome ) without gtk or gnome Flags will make any diference ? If will make diference, how do I know what flags each package need. Sory the poor english, but this are my doubts. Thank you. Allan Allan, Your English isn't that bad at all. OK - not using some USE flags or using other USE flags will change the software. It changes the way the software is compiled and presumably this changes the software. Some of the flags add features to the software. Some seem to effect the way the software is built. Whether any of this matters is probably best determined by you. Does the machine run 'fast enough'. does the softwar 'have the right features'. This is an individual's choice I think. Anyway, there is really nothing about USE flags that you cannot recover from. If you find later that you want something different then change the flag and rebuild the software. Good luck, Mark Thank you. I will build some packs to see the diference -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [OT] KDE Style Creation
Hi there, As this is the only list I belong too, and your all smart anyway, has anyone seen a good tutorial for just creating a pixmap theme? Im not a very good programmer (basic c++ non graphical is all I know). But anyways, has anyone seen a good tutorial for kde 3? The only one I could find is the KDE 2 one. Thanks! Ian PS If you also have a good pixmap theme that would be easy to just modify, please recommened the theme! begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-1.2.1 fails to compile
On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 17:22 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote: Checked here: http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificbug_status=__open__ product=content=%22gnome-extra%22%20%22evolution-data-server%22%201.2.1o rder=bugs.bug_id But there are 200 bugs listed and I'm not seeing a fix for this issue. The problem from the error posted is a recent update to gnutls. From the latest gnutls ebuild: An API has changed in gnutls. This is why the library has gone from libgnutls.so.11 (or 10) to libgnutls.so.12. What is required is a revdep-rebuild. To show you what is needed to rebuild 'revdep-rebuild --soname-regexp libgnutls.so.1[0-1] -- -p' Then do: 'revdep-rebuild --soname-regexp libgnutls.so.1[0-1]' Afterward just try: revdep-rebuild -- -p to see if there are any other packages broken. To rebuild these: revdep-rebuild Regards, Paul -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] evolution
On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 11:44 +0800, W.Kenworthy wrote: In the calendar mode: menu:view/current_view/day_view ?? Then check again. On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 03:37 +0100, José Moreira wrote: Nope it aint here :| Qua, 2005-05-04 às 06:32 +0800, W.Kenworthy escreveu: Sometimes you get a size of zero for an evolution pane. Looking carefully through your alcoholic fog, grab the edge of the left side of the right pane (the calendar pane) and drag it to the right. It looks like a narrow, dimpled vertical bar. On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 21:27 +0100, José Moreira wrote: compiled evolution 2.2.1.1 *hic* and it doesnt offer task as candendar features :| *hick* 99 bottles on my desk *hick* *hick* I hadn't replied because I don't have an answer and haven't bothered to do any troubleshooting or research yet. Anyhow, on one of my systems, Evolution no longer has a calendar or task pane available at all. By not available, I mean there are no menu entries under view-window in addition to there not being any buttons to push at the lower left to get into those panes. Email and Contacts are there, just not the calendar or tasks. I believe that José is running into the same issue. Regards, Paul -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation on an old notebook with a little help from my desktop pc
On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 13:08 +1000, Ezequiel Tolnay wrote: Hi, I have a decent desktop with gentoo, and an old and slow Pentium-266Mhz notebook, where I would like to install Gentoo. Can anyone suggest me how to use my fast processor to do the installation, perhaps mounting a drive using NFS and doing a chroot, thats one way... so the installation does not take a whole month? I'm concerned that if I follow the guidelines for the installation like this, the packages might be compiled for the current processor (athlon) instead of the old pentium (586), just make sure make.conf has the right CHOST, CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS. or pick some hardware features from the new machine and install binaries that will finally not work. One of the things that continues to amaze windoze people is how I can take my generic x86 linux hard drive (with my generic kernel!) and put in in any pc and it will run (after getting around any grub issues). I've ruined windows hard drives by trying to do the same thing... anyway I digress. The point is if you select the right options, you should be fine. (including making the kernel for the right arch). The other way of doing it is distcc. You set your desktop up as a distcc server, and install it on your laptop. customise /etc/distcc/hosts, something like desktop/2 localhost/1 or whatever the syntax is, and distcc will compile first on the desktop, and then on your laptop. (also look at MAKEOPTS=-j3, and FEATURES=distcc I think in make.conf). This may be slower than your first suggestion, as ./configure scripts and so on will still run locally. Depends on your network, etc. There are pointer to distcc in the gentoo install guide. Hopefully this gives you a starter. HTH, -- Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE Flags
Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: darren kirby wrote: quoth the Allan Spagnol Comar: Jaap van Geffen wrote: On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 08:42 -0300, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: Hi I am a new gentoo user and I got some doubts about the USE flags, I know this question should be post allot and I apologize for that, but I was wondering, I am not using any USE flags I got GNOME and ALSA on my system; it will make any diference use then, or by not putting any use flags it got all . Sorry for the question, and thank you all. Don't mind,but what's your question?? My question is if I build a system, like installing software and I do not have setted any USE flags this will change the software, like I emerge anjuta ( Development IDE for Gnome ) without gtk or gnome Flags will make any diference ? If will make diference, how do I know what flags each package need. Sory the poor english, but this are my doubts. Thank you. Allan Adding '-v' to your emerge commands will provide a list of what use flags each package can use, and how your currently set use flags relate to that. $ equery uses packagename will also display this info, as well as a brief description of what the flag does. Sometimes though, these sentences are not too descriptive. In any event, the surefire way to see what a use flag is doing is to look at the ebuild script. -d this is helping a lot. Thank you. Hi, Just to add some info, IMHO even when not using any USE-flags there are some default flags (see them in /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/make.defaults file) and when you put some USE-flags in /etc/make.conf they are merged/override these default USE-flags and then the result is used. Somebody correct if something wrong here. Using cascading-profiles. HTH. Rumen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] evolution
The problem is that, at some update, the libraries that EDS depends upon were changed, and now EDS doesn't work. Run revdep-rebuid. Canek On 5/3/05, Paul Varner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 11:44 +0800, W.Kenworthy wrote: In the calendar mode: menu:view/current_view/day_view ?? Then check again. On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 03:37 +0100, José Moreira wrote: Nope it aint here :| Qua, 2005-05-04 às 06:32 +0800, W.Kenworthy escreveu: Sometimes you get a size of zero for an evolution pane. Looking carefully through your alcoholic fog, grab the edge of the left side of the right pane (the calendar pane) and drag it to the right. It looks like a narrow, dimpled vertical bar. On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 21:27 +0100, José Moreira wrote: compiled evolution 2.2.1.1 *hic* and it doesnt offer task as candendar features :| *hick* 99 bottles on my desk *hick* *hick* I hadn't replied because I don't have an answer and haven't bothered to do any troubleshooting or research yet. Anyhow, on one of my systems, Evolution no longer has a calendar or task pane available at all. By not available, I mean there are no menu entries under view-window in addition to there not being any buttons to push at the lower left to get into those panes. Email and Contacts are there, just not the calendar or tasks. I believe that José is running into the same issue. Regards, Paul -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Canek Peláez Valdés Facultad de Ciencias, UNAM -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Backing up remote partitions
On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 13:32 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 15:29 +0200, YoYo Siska wrote: when we did some backups of partitions from one computer to another (and then clone the partition to few other computers), we did it rougly in this way: first make the free space easily compressible, for example zero-ing it ( dd if=/dev/zero of=some_file_on_the_partition till it stops on 'disk full', then rm some_file_..., but there may be better ways) then on the second computer (were we wanted the backup): nc -l -p -q 0 | gunzip | pv backupfile and on the first computer cat /dev/hda1 | pv | gzip | nc othermachine Wow.. That's a cool way to do things. The other way to do it, without having the need to use nc (netcat) would be to use ssh instead. I do it either 1. tar -cf / . | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] tar -xvf - -C / Whoops.. should be tar -cf - / | ssh -c blowfish [EMAIL PROTECTED] tar -xvf - -C / 2. rsync -av / [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ #1 would be preferred over #2 since it uses tar and it streams everything block by block rather than file by file like rsync. Note also that one can also choose to use the blowfish cipher instead of the default RSA/DSA(??) via ssh -c blowfish Rsync would be good if I needed to do backups only. Can someone help me with this, how can I use dd over the network? eg: something like pseudo code dd if=/dev/hda | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] of=/ something like that... is it possible? -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 13:33:34 up 1 day, 3:03, 3 users, load average: 1.33, 0.86, 0.68 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Backing up remote partitions
On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 14:41 +0200, Andreas Fredriksson wrote: On 5/3/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Can anyone here think of a way to back up remote partitions before installing Gentoo? Is there some way to run a command like dd but pipe ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] '(cd /src tar zcfp - .)' backup.tar.gz Does the backup.tar.gz happen at the local side or the remote side? If I read the command correctly, 1. Connect to remote machine 2. Tar up the /src directory 3. Dump to the LOCAL machine as backup.tar.gz correct? Does it work? -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 13:36:42 up 1 day, 3:06, 3 users, load average: 0.39, 0.76, 0.68 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
