Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] How to come back to Mac OS?

2006-01-18 Thread Enlightened User
After booting the Installer, choose the Disk Utility from the  
Installer menu and repartition your disk.
When done with the Disk Utility, the Installer will allow a new  
installation of Mac OS X.


On Jan 18, 2006, at 3:31 PM, Alessandro Di Rubbo wrote:


Hello to everyone,
  I've got an Apple iBook (Dual USB) with a Gentoo installation on  
it, but now I'm going to sell it and I would restore the original  
situation, installing Mac OS 9 and/or Mac OS X.
When I installed Gentoo, I deleted every partion related to Mac OS  
because I didn't need them, so now I have only the  
Apple_partion_map, the Apple_Bootstrap (where is Yaboot) and an  
empty partition (I've already removed my old Gentoo partitions).
I've tried to insert the Mac OS X (v 10.0.1) but the installer is  
not able to find any partion (hd): what can I do? Thank you very  
much for your help, in advance.


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Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-18 Thread Holly Bostick
Dale schreef:
 On Tuesday 17 January 2006 23:00, Richard Fish wrote:
 find ~/.mozilla -name prefs.js -exec grep mail.smtpserver {} \;
 
 
 This is on my old install.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # find home/dale/.mozilla -name prefs.js -exec grep 
 mail.smtpserver {} \; 
 user_pref(mail.smtpserver.smtp1.auth_method, 1); 
 user_pref(mail.smtpserver.smtp1.hostname, mail.exceedtech.net); 
 user_pref(mail.smtpserver.smtp1.port, 25); 
 user_pref(mail.smtpserver.smtp1.try_ssl, 0); 
 user_pref(mail.smtpserver.smtp1.username, dalek); 
 user_pref(mail.smtpservers, smtp1); [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #
 
 
 This is from the new install that I mounted on /mnt/gentoo, you know,
  like in the install guide.  LOL
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # find /mnt/gentoo/home/dale/.mozilla -name prefs.js 
 -exec grep mail.smtpserver {} \; 
 user_pref(mail.smtpserver.smtp1.auth_method, 1); 
 user_pref(mail.smtpserver.smtp1.hostname, mail.exceedtech.net); 
 user_pref(mail.smtpserver.smtp1.port, 25); 
 user_pref(mail.smtpserver.smtp1.try_ssl, 0); 
 user_pref(mail.smtpserver.smtp1.username, dalek); 
 user_pref(mail.smtpservers, smtp1); [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #
 
 Well, this may explain why neither one works.  They are the same. 
 Does that look right??

Looks right to me; these are the same settings I have in Thunderbird
(with different hostname and username, of course), and I don't have any
problems.

What I don't get is why moz is trying to relay directly. I'm no
mail/network guru, but I do know that if I send a mail to someone
outside my network (like, for example, the list), *I* don't relay (send
the mail via another ssmtp server) but rather I send it to my ISP and
*they* relay it (just like snail mail; I drop the letter in the post box
near me and the Postal Service takes it to the next node in the town
where the recipient lives, and *their* local mail service delivers it.
It's not like if I want to write somebody in NYC, I have to mail the
letter *in* NYC for it to be delivered...!)

About all I can ask at this point is:

1) what version of Mozilla are you using? What are your USE flags for
your installation? Have you checked b.g.o or mozillazine
(http://www.mozillazine.org/ ) to see if this is perhaps a known bug of
your version of Mozilla? Have you tried upgrading (maybe it's a bug
that's fixed in later versions)?

2) If you go to Edit=Preferences=Account Preferences=Outgoing server
(SMTP), is there more than one server listed, and is your ISP's server
selected as standard? Like Iain, I had similar problems (a long time
ago) when attempting to send mail via my home ISP from work, where we
had a different ISP, which wouldn't work because I was logged into my
work's mail server (of course), and not my home ISP's SMTP server, so my
home ISP wasn't going to send my mail, since I wasn't an authorized user
(not logged in). It's hard to believe that there isn't *some* problem
with your SMTP settings that we're missing, though there is no error to
be seen, and of course KMail is presumably set the same way, and *that*
works

3) I'm wondering if this isn't a Mozilla problem; very curious as to
whether Thunderbird would exhibit it as well. If you want to try it, you
can use the same mail folders and settings as Mozilla, which I can
quickly tell you how to set up (it's like 5 steps, if T-bird doesn't
just offer to import the Mozilla settings for you) if you decide to try
it. Also curious as to whether there's *any difference whatsoever*
between your KMail settings and your Mozilla settings (yes, it's
fine-toothed-comb time).

4) I'm also wondering if this is a local problem (to a specific
outside address), or a general problem (to any outside address).
Have you tested mail to  multiple/different outside addresses, or just
one? If just one, maybe that one is the problem. You can send me a test
mail; I'm certainly outside your local network :-) .

5) It's a long shot, but is there any possibility that you're sending to
an outside address to which your ISP will *not* relay, i.e. someplace
that *cough* Homeland Security doesn't want you writing to (maybe you
have a relative in the service, I don't know)? If there are such domains
(and I'm sure there are), it's within the (distant, we hope) realm of
possiblility that
your ISP is being excessively cautious in order to avoid any spotlight
of investigation falling on them.

6) I don't know much (all right, anything) about sending command-line
mail, but there must be a way to get a traceroute of a mail. Maybe
somebody here knows how we could get some useful output about what
happens when this mail pretends to relay itself for some reason.


 I just thought of something.  My new install has two accounts, the
 dalek one and my new one rdalek.  Where's rdalek??  I'm going to 
 change later and get rid of some spam, I hope.
 
 I had to fill in the user directories since I was logged in as root. 
 Root don't have a .mozilla directory.

Regular users don't have any rights to read root's home directory.
Probably Mozilla 

Re: [gentoo-user] UDEV permissions

2006-01-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:58:26 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:

  Don't use that file, that is for udev's own settings, so it will be
  updated when udev is. Use 10-udev.rules (create it if not present)
  which won't be affected by udev updates and takes precedence over the
  higher numbered file.
 
 It is read first, but the settings there only have precedence if the
 := syntax is used.  If it just shows =, later rules (i.e, from
 50-udev.rules) can override the settings.

That only happens under certain circumstances. udev generally stops at
the first matching rule. := is the safest option though.


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[gentoo-user] cant use portage since last nights sync

2006-01-18 Thread Jean Blignaut








Hi 



This morning Ive found that Im unable to use the
emerge command.

Any thing I try gives me the following error:







Performing Global Updates:
/usr/portage/profiles/updates/1Q-2006

(Could take a couple of minutes if you have a lot of binary
packages.)

 .='update pass' *='binary update' @='/var/db move'

 s='/var/db SLOT move' S='binary SLOT move' p='update
/etc/portage/package.*'

Traceback (most recent call last):

 File /usr/bin/emerge, line 10, in ?

 import portage

 File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line
7480, in ?

 do_upgrade(mykey)

 File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line
7372, in do_upgrade


db[/][vartree].dbapi.move_ent(mysplit)

 File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line
4683, in move_ent

 origmatches=self.match(origcp,use_cache=0)

 File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line
4829, in match

 return
match_from_list(mydep,self.cp_list(mykey,use_cache=use_cache))

 File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line
4134, in match_from_list

 raise KeyError, Specific key requires an operator
(%s) (try adding an '=') % (mydep)

KeyError: Specific key requires an operator
(dev-perl/DateTime-0.2901) (try adding an '=')



What do I do to fix this problem?

These are both production servers so this is potentially a
big problem!



Any help would be much appreciated 



Regards

Jean Blignaut








Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:17:29 -0600, Dale wrote:

  An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded:
 5.7.1 whatever email address I am trying to send to Relaying denied.
 Please verify that your email address is correct in your Mail
 preferences and try again.

 To recap a bit.  I have a problem sending email to anyone outside my
 ISPs network.  I can't send to a yahoo, or my brothers Bell South
 account and some others too. 

Your ISP's mail server thinks you are connecting from outside their
network, so it only allows you to send mails to addresses within the
network (that's the Relaying denied bit). There's nothing wrong with your
network connections, because KMail works, so it must be down to your
Mozilla config. Some ISPs also check the domain part of your email
address, is that set the same in Mozilla and KMail?


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Re: [gentoo-user] cant use portage since last nights sync

2006-01-18 Thread Marcel van der Heide
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 11:17, Jean Blignaut wrote:
 Hi

 This morning I've found that I'm unable to use the emerge command.

 Any thing I try gives me the following error:

 Performing Global Updates: /usr/portage/profiles/updates/1Q-2006
...

I had the same problem. It seems there was a problem in the 1Q-2006 
profile, but it has been fixed in the mean time.
If you delete /usr/portage/profiles/updates/1Q-2006, you'll be able to 
sync again and all should be fine.

Best wishes,

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RE: [gentoo-user] cant use portage since last nights sync

2006-01-18 Thread Jean Blignaut
Thank you very much I'll try it right away!

Regards
Jean

-Original Message-
From: Marcel van der Heide [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:45 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] cant use portage since last nights sync

On Wednesday 18 January 2006 11:17, Jean Blignaut wrote:
 Hi

 This morning I've found that I'm unable to use the emerge command.

 Any thing I try gives me the following error:

 Performing Global Updates: /usr/portage/profiles/updates/1Q-2006
...

I had the same problem. It seems there was a problem in the 1Q-2006 
profile, but it has been fixed in the mean time.
If you delete /usr/portage/profiles/updates/1Q-2006, you'll be able to 
sync again and all should be fine.

Best wishes,

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Re: [gentoo-user] cant use portage since last nights sync

2006-01-18 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 10:17, Jean Blignaut wrote:

 Hi



 This morning I've found that I'm unable to use the emerge command.

 Any thing I try gives me the following error:

Short answer: delete /usr/portage/profiles/updates/1Q-2006 and re-emerge 
sync;

Long answer: search the forums.

HTH
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RE: [gentoo-user] cant use portage since last nights sync

2006-01-18 Thread Jean Blignaut
I have deleted /usr/portage/profiles/updates/1Q-2006 and so far I am at
least able to sync portage again.
I am hopefull that every thing will be ok now

-Original Message-
From: Etaoin Shrdlu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 12:11 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] cant use portage since last nights sync

On Wednesday 18 January 2006 10:17, Jean Blignaut wrote:

 Hi



 This morning I've found that I'm unable to use the emerge command.

 Any thing I try gives me the following error:

Short answer: delete /usr/portage/profiles/updates/1Q-2006 and re-emerge

sync;

Long answer: search the forums.

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Re: [gentoo-user] *.bin and /dev/loop help

2006-01-18 Thread Alexander Skwar
krgn wrote:

 mount -o loop
[...]
   RockHead doom # mount -t iso9660 Doom3cd1.iso01.iso /mnt/iso/cd1/ -o
 loop=/dev/loop0

Compare this. Does it say mount -o loop=/dev/loop0?

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RE: [gentoo-user] Java and java.library.path

2006-01-18 Thread habutre .

Hi, Kirby

Did I've the same problerm a any time ago with a thirty-part lib (*.so), I 
tried all but no success. I put in LD_LIBRARY var, in CLASS_PATH and 
nothing.
The solucion for me was put the lib (*.so) in the $JAVA_HOME/jre/lib/i386/ 
directory, I didn't test, but the parameter Djava.library.path=/usr/lib 
should has the same result.


I hope should help you...

Rogerio

Fé inabalável é somente
aquela que pode encarar a
razão face-a-face em qualquer
época da Humanidade.





From: darren kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Java and java.library.path
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:49:30 -0800



Fé inabalável é somente
aquela que pode encarar a
razão face-a-face em qualquer
época da Humanidade.





From: darren kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Java and java.library.path
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:49:30 -0800

Hello all,

I am trying to get an app called iriverter up and running. Not in portage 
so I

built and installed manually, which went with no errors. However, after
starting the app I get:

Exception in thread main java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no 
swt-pi-gtk-3201

in java.library.path

But I do have this library:
$ locate swt-pi-gtk
/usr/lib/libswt-pi-gtk-3201.so

I ran java-config to see which java I am using (blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.02) and 
I
edited /etc/env.d/java/20blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.02 and added '/usr/lib/' to 
the

'ADDLDPATH' variable, ran env-update, sourced /etc/profile, and even logged
out and back in but I still have the same error.

Now: I don't really know jack about java, so can someone tell me how to get
this to work? How can I add /usr/lib/ to java's library path?

Thanks for consideration,
-d
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expected...

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT probably] Firefox not painting

2006-01-18 Thread Stuart Howard
well I have always been using the default theme only however I
installed a new one and tried that with no change.
I also moved to .old my .mozilla to try fresh and again no change, my
system is almost entirely x86 ie. not ~x86.
Desktop is KDE though starting under fluxbox makes no change either.

stu


On 17/01/06, Joshua Schmidlkofer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is almost _always_ theme related.  Please change your gnome theme, and
 see what happens.

 Thanks,
   Joshua



 On 1/16/06, Stuart Howard  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi
 
  Has anyone either experienced or solved this issue, essentially it
  means that the find bar and then all toolbars stop painting ie. go
  grey and invisible. Detail 
 
 
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=274823#add_comment
 
  I have been watching that one for 6 months and tbh happily moved onto
  Opera, however every so often I need firefox for some compatability
  eg. realplay plugin and also the fact that it does not work for me
  just irritates as I must assume it does not happen for 99% of firefox
  users or else it would have been fixed by now.
  Any thoughts ?
  Note this occurs for me obviously on Gentoo with both BIN and source
  x11-base/xorg-x11
Latest version available: 6.8.2-r6
Latest version installed: 6.8.2-r6
  x11-libs/gtk+-2.8.8
  x11-libs/cairo-1.0.2
 
  checked other dependancies against those published against firefox-bin
  on gentoo-portage and I have all as described.
 
  stu
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-18 Thread Dale
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 03:27, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:17:29 -0600, Dale wrote:
   An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded:
  5.7.1 whatever email address I am trying to send to Relaying denied.
  Please verify that your email address is correct in your Mail
  preferences and try again.
 
  To recap a bit.  I have a problem sending email to anyone outside my
  ISPs network.  I can't send to a yahoo, or my brothers Bell South
  account and some others too.

 Your ISP's mail server thinks you are connecting from outside their
 network, so it only allows you to send mails to addresses within the
 network (that's the Relaying denied bit). There's nothing wrong with your
 network connections, because KMail works, so it must be down to your
 Mozilla config. Some ISPs also check the domain part of your email
 address, is that set the same in Mozilla and KMail?


Yup.  I get the same error even if I just switch desktops and don't even 
disconnect and reconnect my modem.  I have got the same error once or twice 
on the old OS with Kmail too.  It was just a few times though.

What gets me is this, I did a fresh install and copied over my /home directory 
and /etc as well.  Everything else was new.  It still does not work.

Here is the kicker.  On my new install, Mozilla will no longer open, just like 
on the old OS. 

I have a few questions that I would like you to think about.  I upgraded gcc, 
then upgraded KDE to 3.5 and had to upgrade my kernel when I did the KDE 
upgrade.  Can all that have something to do with this?  I'm considering doing 
another install and not  use the new gcc, a older kernel, and KDE 3.4 just to 
see if it would work then.

This is really wrecking my brain.  I have no clue what is wrong.  I booted the 
Gentoo CD and ran memtest86 and got several passes with not one single error.  
My CPU runs as cool as some with water cooling so I don't think this is 
hardware.  It's hard for me to beleive that I can have two drives from 
different manufacturors going out at the same time either.

Now to go back and answer Hollys email.

Any ideas?  Me clueless.

Dale
:-(
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Re: [gentoo-user] Java and java.library.path

2006-01-18 Thread darren kirby
quoth the Trenton Adams:
 on the java command line put -Djava.library.path=/usr/lib

 I don't know if gentoo has a config for this or not, I didn't know
 ADDLDPATH existed.  Who knows, perhaps editing the JRE version of that
 file would help?

I am really sorry, but I don't know what you mean by 'java command line'. The 
app itself, is in /usr/bin like everything else, it just gives me that error 
when I start it from an xterm, ie:
$ iriverter
insert error message

I don't know what you mean by editing the JRE version of that file would 
help either. What is jre version? What file? Again, I really know nothing of 
java...

Please dumb it down for me a bit if you can...


 On 1/17/06, darren kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello all,
 
  I am trying to get an app called iriverter up and running. Not in portage
  so I built and installed manually, which went with no errors. However,
  after starting the app I get:
 
  Exception in thread main java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no
  swt-pi-gtk-3201 in java.library.path
 
  But I do have this library:
  $ locate swt-pi-gtk
  /usr/lib/libswt-pi-gtk-3201.so
 
  I ran java-config to see which java I am using (blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.02)
  and I edited /etc/env.d/java/20blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.02 and added
  '/usr/lib/' to the 'ADDLDPATH' variable, ran env-update, sourced
  /etc/profile, and even logged out and back in but I still have the same
  error.
 
  Now: I don't really know jack about java, so can someone tell me how to
  get this to work? How can I add /usr/lib/ to java's library path?
 
  Thanks for consideration,
  -d
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  expected... - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972

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Re: [gentoo-user] Java and java.library.path

2006-01-18 Thread darren kirby
quoth the habutre .:
 Hi, Kirby

 Did I've the same problerm a any time ago with a thirty-part lib (*.so), I
 tried all but no success. I put in LD_LIBRARY var, in CLASS_PATH and
 nothing.
 The solucion for me was put the lib (*.so) in the $JAVA_HOME/jre/lib/i386/
 directory, I didn't test, but the parameter Djava.library.path=/usr/lib
 should has the same result.

Hello.

I tried you advice, and copied the lib to $JAVA_HOME/jre/lib/i386/ but it is 
still the same result...


 I hope should help you...

 Rogerio

 Fé inabalável é somente
 aquela que pode encarar a
 razão face-a-face em qualquer
 época da Humanidade.

 From: darren kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user] Java and java.library.path
 Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:49:30 -0800

 Fé inabalável é somente
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 razão face-a-face em qualquer
 época da Humanidade.

 From: darren kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user] Java and java.library.path
 Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:49:30 -0800
 
 Hello all,
 
 I am trying to get an app called iriverter up and running. Not in portage
 so I
 built and installed manually, which went with no errors. However, after
 starting the app I get:
 
 Exception in thread main java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no
 swt-pi-gtk-3201
 in java.library.path
 
 But I do have this library:
 $ locate swt-pi-gtk
 /usr/lib/libswt-pi-gtk-3201.so
 
 I ran java-config to see which java I am using (blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.02)
  and I
 edited /etc/env.d/java/20blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.02 and added '/usr/lib/' to
 the
 'ADDLDPATH' variable, ran env-update, sourced /etc/profile, and even
  logged out and back in but I still have the same error.
 
 Now: I don't really know jack about java, so can someone tell me how to
  get this to work? How can I add /usr/lib/ to java's library path?
 
 Thanks for consideration,
 -d
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 ...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more
 expected...
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Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-18 Thread Dale
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 03:08, Holly Bostick wrote:


 About all I can ask at this point is:

 1) what version of Mozilla are you using? What are your USE flags for
 your installation? Have you checked b.g.o or mozillazine
 (http://www.mozillazine.org/ ) to see if this is perhaps a known bug of
 your version of Mozilla? Have you tried upgrading (maybe it's a bug
 that's fixed in later versions)?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ # emerge -pv mozilla

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] www-client/mozilla-1.7.12-r2  +crypt -debug +gnome +ipv6 +java 
+ldap -mozcalendar -mozdevelop -moznocompose -moznoirc -moznomail -moznoxft 
-mozsvg -postgres +ssl +truetype -xinerama +xprint 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ #



 2) If you go to Edit=Preferences=Account Preferences=Outgoing server
 (SMTP), is there more than one server listed, and is your ISP's server
 selected as standard? Like Iain, I had similar problems (a long time
 ago) when attempting to send mail via my home ISP from work, where we
 had a different ISP, which wouldn't work because I was logged into my
 work's mail server (of course), and not my home ISP's SMTP server, so my
 home ISP wasn't going to send my mail, since I wasn't an authorized user
 (not logged in). It's hard to believe that there isn't *some* problem
 with your SMTP settings that we're missing, though there is no error to
 be seen, and of course KMail is presumably set the same way, and *that*
 works


Well, Mozilla won't even open now.  I do have it set up the same as Kmail 
though.  Just to make sure it was not a corrupt file or something, I created 
a brand new user and set it up.  Same error.  Kmail worked though.  



 3) I'm wondering if this isn't a Mozilla problem; very curious as to
 whether Thunderbird would exhibit it as well. If you want to try it, you
 can use the same mail folders and settings as Mozilla, which I can
 quickly tell you how to set up (it's like 5 steps, if T-bird doesn't
 just offer to import the Mozilla settings for you) if you decide to try
 it. Also curious as to whether there's *any difference whatsoever*
 between your KMail settings and your Mozilla settings (yes, it's
 fine-toothed-comb time).


They are the same as far as email goes.  Mozilla worked for a good while until 
all this started.



 4) I'm also wondering if this is a local problem (to a specific
 outside address), or a general problem (to any outside address).
 Have you tested mail to  multiple/different outside addresses, or just
 one? If just one, maybe that one is the problem. You can send me a test
 mail; I'm certainly outside your local network :-) .

I can not send email to anyone without exceedtech.net on the end.  My brother 
has a Bell South account and it won't go.  I have two Yahoo accounts, 
nothing.  I have a couple friends on other ISPs, lady friends LOL, and they 
are no go either.  Is it OK if I try to find someone to put up with me?  O_O  
It gets lonely with me, three servers and my broke desktop.  

 5) It's a long shot, but is there any possibility that you're sending to
 an outside address to which your ISP will *not* relay, i.e. someplace
 that *cough* Homeland Security doesn't want you writing to (maybe you
 have a relative in the service, I don't know)? If there are such domains
 (and I'm sure there are), it's within the (distant, we hope) realm of
 possiblility that
 your ISP is being excessively cautious in order to avoid any spotlight
 of investigation falling on them.


Who me??  LOL  Most of them are within 300 miles of me.  The closest, I can 
use two cans and a piece of string.  My brother lives next door, country 
speaking for about ~700' away.



 6) I don't know much (all right, anything) about sending command-line
 mail, but there must be a way to get a traceroute of a mail. Maybe
 somebody here knows how we could get some useful output about what
 happens when this mail pretends to relay itself for some reason.

I sent a ethreal thing to two people.  Maybe they went to bed.  ;-)  It is 
long so I don't want to put it on here.  This is one line though.

No. TimeSourceDestination   Protocol Info
 15 8.04504165.116.46.23  4.253.131.84  SMTP 
Response: 550 5.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]dotcom... Relaying denied


I put in the dot in the address.  That's my spaming email address at Yahoo, 
well, one of them.  



 That's a good idea. No matter what your ISP says, it still could be
 something fishy with them (Customer Service isn't always told every
 little detail about what's going on with the service, and they can't
 help you solve a problem they don't know about).

 HTH,
 Holly

I actually sent a email to the owner.  No idea and nobody else is having this 
trouble.  I don't think they would lie to me.  When they have problems with 
connections, they usually call and get me to try it.  Since Linux keeps 
better 

Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-18 Thread Dale
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 07:43, Dale wrote:


 Well, Mozilla won't even open now.  


Well, you can add the binary version of Mozilla to the Do Not Open list.  It 
didn't work either.

I wonder how much crap I can mess up if I try to start a new install with my 
eyes half closed?  I have read where people do this while plastered, drunk is 
the word for some.

I'm at least going to take a nap.  Yall be good now, you here.

Dale
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[gentoo-user] hpasm doesn't work

2006-01-18 Thread Stefan Istvan
Hello List!

Has anyone tried to use the hpasm package on a HP Proliant server?
I have tried it, but I have problems.
When I execute this command:
/etc/init.d/hpasm status

I get this:
/etc/init.d/hpasm: line 20: /etc/init.d/functions: No such file or
directory


Here are the modules / daemons executing:
Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See
http://procps.sf.net/faq.html


Module  Size  Used byNot tainted


Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See
http://procps.sf.net/faq.html
25039 pts/0S+ 0:00 grep casmd
Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See
http://procps.sf.net/faq.html
18666 pts/0S+ 0:00 grep cevtd


STATUS:  The ProLiant Advanced Server Management is disabled!


/opt/compaq/foundation/etc/cmafdtnpeerd: line 59: status: command not
found
/opt/compaq/foundation/etc/cmahostd: line 59: status: command not found
/opt/compaq/foundation/etc/cmathreshd: line 59: status: command not
found
/opt/compaq/foundation/etc/cmawebd: line 59: status: command not found
/opt/compaq/server/etc/cmasvrpeerd: line 59: status: command not found
/opt/compaq/server/etc/cmastdeqd: line 59: status: command not found
/opt/compaq/server/etc/cmahealthd: line 59: status: command not found


It seems to me that this package is originally made for RedHat, and
that's why it doesn't run well under Gentoo.

Thanks for the help in advance,
Istvan


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Re: [gentoo-user] Java and java.library.path

2006-01-18 Thread Holly Bostick
darren kirby schreef:
 quoth the Trenton Adams:
 on the java command line put -Djava.library.path=/usr/lib
 
 I don't know if gentoo has a config for this or not, I didn't know
  ADDLDPATH existed.  Who knows, perhaps editing the JRE version of 
 that file would help?
 
 I am really sorry, but I don't know what you mean by 'java command 
 line'. The app itself, is in /usr/bin like everything else, it just 
 gives me that error when I start it from an xterm, ie: $ iriverter 
 insert error message


Well, I don't know much about java either, but 4 out of 5 java programs
I use are not started by program_name, but by java (-jar)
program_name. This would be the java command-line, I imagine.

Basically, the idea is that you have to invoke java so that java runs
the program. Because the first argument in the command is java, you
are then able to use various command-line switches for Java (such as the
aforementioned -Djava.library.path=/usr/lib) before telling Java what
program you want it to run (in this case iriverter).

java -help
Usage: java [-options] class [args...]
   (to execute a class)
   or  java [-options] -jar jarfile [args...]
   (to execute a jar file)

where options include:
-client   to select the client VM
-server   to select the server VM
-hotspot  is a synonym for the client VM  [deprecated]
  The default VM is client.

-cp class search path of directories and zip/jar files
-classpath class search path of directories and zip/jar files
  A : separated list of directories, JAR archives,
  and ZIP archives to search for class files.
-Dname=value
  set a system property
-verbose[:class|gc|jni]
  enable verbose output
-version  print product version and exit
-version:value
  require the specified version to run
-showversion  print product version and continue
-jre-restrict-search | -jre-no-restrict-search
  include/exclude user private JREs in the version search
-? -help  print this help message
-Xprint help on non-standard options
-ea[:packagename...|:classname]
-enableassertions[:packagename...|:classname]
  enable assertions
-da[:packagename...|:classname]
-disableassertions[:packagename...|:classname]
  disable assertions
-esa | -enablesystemassertions
  enable system assertions
-dsa | -disablesystemassertions
  disable system assertions

So I think what Trenton probably meant was that you should try starting
the program with

java -Djava.library.path=/usr/lib iriverter

(assuming that iriverter is not a *.jar file in which case you'd need
-jar before iriverter).

You know, there's a high likelihood that the iriverter file in /usr/bin
is a script that is readable in a text editor.

You might want to see if you can have a look at it and see just what
it's doing. A readme that tells you how to run the program (man
iriverter? iriverter --help?) might be of some use, too.

Hope this helps,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-18 Thread Holly Bostick
Dale schreef:
 On Wednesday 18 January 2006 07:43, Dale wrote:
 
 Well, Mozilla won't even open now.
 
 
 Well, you can add the binary version of Mozilla to the Do Not Open 
 list.  It didn't work either.
 

Does anybody know if using the ipv6 flag when you don't actually have
ipv6 available (from your ISP) might do something like this? Istr that I
had a lot of difficulties with Internet applications when I first
installed (because ipv6 is enabled by default) until I disabled it.

I'm really out of other ideas, since I can only imagine that this is a
Mozilla issue, and I can't imagine any issue that might have been caused
by a bad install (and which could be fixed by a reinstall) that would
not affect other such applications (so I have no idea what could
possibly be wrong).

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-18 Thread Eddie Mihalow Jr

Dale wrote:

On Wednesday 18 January 2006 03:27, Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:17:29 -0600, Dale wrote:

 An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded:
5.7.1 whatever email address I am trying to send to Relaying denied.
Please verify that your email address is correct in your Mail
preferences and try again.

To recap a bit.  I have a problem sending email to anyone outside my
ISPs network.  I can't send to a yahoo, or my brothers Bell South
account and some others too.

Your ISP's mail server thinks you are connecting from outside their
network, so it only allows you to send mails to addresses within the
network (that's the Relaying denied bit). There's nothing wrong with your
network connections, because KMail works, so it must be down to your
Mozilla config. Some ISPs also check the domain part of your email
address, is that set the same in Mozilla and KMail?



Yup.  I get the same error even if I just switch desktops and don't even 
disconnect and reconnect my modem.  I have got the same error once or twice 
on the old OS with Kmail too.  It was just a few times though.


What gets me is this, I did a fresh install and copied over my /home directory 
and /etc as well.  Everything else was new.  It still does not work.


Here is the kicker.  On my new install, Mozilla will no longer open, just like 
on the old OS. 

I have a few questions that I would like you to think about.  I upgraded gcc, 
then upgraded KDE to 3.5 and had to upgrade my kernel when I did the KDE 
upgrade.  Can all that have something to do with this?  I'm considering doing 
another install and not  use the new gcc, a older kernel, and KDE 3.4 just to 
see if it would work then.


This is really wrecking my brain.  I have no clue what is wrong.  I booted the 
Gentoo CD and ran memtest86 and got several passes with not one single error.  
My CPU runs as cool as some with water cooling so I don't think this is 
hardware.  It's hard for me to beleive that I can have two drives from 
different manufacturors going out at the same time either.


Now to go back and answer Hollys email.

Any ideas?  Me clueless.

Dale
:-(
Maybe try Firefox and Thunderbird as your browser and email client? 
Evidently something is
wrong with how Mozilla is configured and maybe deleting any and all 
/home/dale/.mozilla
folders is called for. Since you have already went through a new install 
and really did a good job of
trouble-shooting, I would say your email client is the problem and/or 
ISP. I have bellsouth

and have never had any of the problems you have encountered.

Happy Hacking,

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Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-18 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/18/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Maybe you have something wrong in your dialup settings?  Or maybe you
 can compare with what mail server KMail really contacts with an
 ethereal trace?

Oh, and post the output of traceroute -n mail.exceedtech.net.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] hpasm doesn't work

2006-01-18 Thread Stroller


On 18 Jan 2006, at 14:00, Stefan Istvan wrote:


Has anyone tried to use the hpasm package on a HP Proliant server?


Yes, it's horrible.


It seems to me that this package is originally made for RedHat, and
that's why it doesn't run well under Gentoo.


It seems that way to me, too.

It's been some time since I tried this, but there are two different  
versions of `hpasm` depending on which kernel you use. See the forums  
thread about that. I was more or less successful under 2.6 emerging  
app-arch/rpm  then using that to install the RPM from Compaq's site  
than I was trying to emerge the version in Portage.


Stroller.


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Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-18 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/17/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tuesday 17 January 2006 23:00, Richard Fish wrote:
  find ~/.mozilla -name prefs.js -exec grep mail.smtpserver {} \;

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # find /mnt/gentoo/home/dale/.mozilla -name prefs.js 
 -exec grep
 mail.smtpserver {} \;
 user_pref(mail.smtpserver.smtp1.auth_method, 1);
 user_pref(mail.smtpserver.smtp1.hostname, mail.exceedtech.net);
 user_pref(mail.smtpserver.smtp1.port, 25);
 user_pref(mail.smtpserver.smtp1.try_ssl, 0);
 user_pref(mail.smtpserver.smtp1.username, dalek);
 user_pref(mail.smtpservers, smtp1);
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #


A grep -i smtp of the ethereal trace you sent me shows that you are
connecting to mail.exceedtech.net (65.116.46.23) from 4.253.131.84
(dialup-4.253.131.84.Dial1.Houston1.Level3.net).  This doesn't look
right...if exceedtech.net is your ISP you should be getting an address
within their address space 65.116.(?).  Anyway this is why they think
you are relaying...you are not connecting from their network, and not
sending email to an exceedtech.net address.

Maybe you have something wrong in your dialup settings?  Or maybe you
can compare with what mail server KMail really contacts with an
ethereal trace?

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] UDEV permissions

2006-01-18 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/18/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:58:26 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:

 That only happens under certain circumstances. udev generally stops at
 the first matching rule. := is the safest option though.

This behavior changed at some point in the last 20 versions or so :-).
 Actually, looking at the release notes, it was in udev-057.  It now
continues reading all rules, but only applies the first NAME setting. 
In fact, now I see there is actually an OPTIONS=last_rule setting to
get the old behavior.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:21:42 -0600, Dale wrote:

  Your ISP's mail server thinks you are connecting from outside their
  network, so it only allows you to send mails to addresses within the
  network (that's the Relaying denied bit). There's nothing wrong with
  your network connections, because KMail works, so it must be down to
  your Mozilla config. Some ISPs also check the domain part of your
  email address, is that set the same in Mozilla and KMail?
 
 Yup.  I get the same error even if I just switch desktops and don't
 even disconnect and reconnect my modem.  I have got the same error once
 or twice on the old OS with Kmail too.  It was just a few times though.
 
 What gets me is this, I did a fresh install and copied over my /home
 directory and /etc as well.  Everything else was new.  It still does
 not work.

If it's a configuration issue, you replaced everything but the cause of
the problem.


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Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-18 Thread Dale

Holly Bostick wrote:


Dale schreef:
 


On Wednesday 18 January 2006 07:43, Dale wrote:

   


Well, Mozilla won't even open now.
 

Well, you can add the binary version of Mozilla to the Do Not Open 
list.  It didn't work either.


   



Does anybody know if using the ipv6 flag when you don't actually have
ipv6 available (from your ISP) might do something like this? Istr that I
had a lot of difficulties with Internet applications when I first
installed (because ipv6 is enabled by default) until I disabled it.

I'm really out of other ideas, since I can only imagine that this is a
Mozilla issue, and I can't imagine any issue that might have been caused
by a bad install (and which could be fixed by a reinstall) that would
not affect other such applications (so I have no idea what could
possibly be wrong).

Holly
 



I'm still awake here.  I got Mozilla to work again in the OLD install.  
It's the binary version though.  I'm going to try to send this with 
Mozilla mail.


I noticed that ipv6 flag and I can only guess that it is in global USE 
or something.  Should I unset it in make.conf and do a emerge -e world, 
again?  Old install or new one?  I sort of like the old one if it were 
up to me.  LOL


OK.  I'm going to take a nap this time.  I can barely stay awake.  My 
bad typing is really kicking in too.


Thanks for the help everybody.  I would really like to figure this out 
so we will all learn something, the hard way looks like.


Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-18 Thread Dale

Dale wrote:




I'm still awake here.  I got Mozilla to work again in the OLD 
install.  It's the binary version though.  I'm going to try to send 
this with Mozilla mail.


I noticed that ipv6 flag and I can only guess that it is in global USE 
or something.  Should I unset it in make.conf and do a emerge -e 
world, again?  Old install or new one?  I sort of like the old one if 
it were up to me.  LOL


OK.  I'm going to take a nap this time.  I can barely stay awake.  My 
bad typing is really kicking in too.


Thanks for the help everybody.  I would really like to figure this out 
so we will all learn something, the hard way looks like.


Dale
:-)




OK, don't nobody complain.  These are coming from the binary version of 
Mozilla on my OLD install.  I'm not going to jump up and down yet either.


Can anybody find out when they added that ipv6 flag?  Is it compiled 
into the binary version of Mozilla?  I do not have any idea why this 
Mozilla decided to open.  I just thought I would try it one more time 
and it did.  I didn't do anything special either.  The compiled version 
does not work.  I tried it first.


Let's see if this one works.  Oh, My ISP opened a hour ago.  Makes me 
wonder.


 Dale says prayer that this works, again 

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-18 Thread Dale

Dale wrote:




Let's see if this one works.  Oh, My ISP opened a hour ago.  Makes me 
wonder.


 Dale says prayer that this works, again 

Dale

:-)



OK, I sent one to a lady I recently broke up with.  Yes, we still talk, 
a lot.  LOL  Anyway, she has a Yahoo account.  It went through just 
fine.  No errors at all.  I even sent some pics, new lady.  LOL


I also sent one to my brothers Bell South account.  No errors there either.

OK.  Can someone tell my why my old Mozilla won't start up?  I'd really 
like to keep my old install.  Mozilla don't work in the new OS either so 
why not fix my old one.  o_O


I have got to take a nap.  Ya'll hang tight for a bit.  I usually sleep 
for a few hours at a time anyway.  Disabled remember?


Thanks for the help.  Don't ask what I did.  I dunno.

Dale
:-) :-)

This is from Mozilla too, binary version though.
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Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-18 Thread Dale

Neil Bothwick wrote:


On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:53:52 -0600, Dale wrote:

 

I noticed that ipv6 flag and I can only guess that it is in global USE 
or something.  Should I unset it in make.conf and do a emerge -e world, 
again?
   



There's no need to recompile *everything* for one changes USE flag,
emerge -uavDN world will re-emerge all affected packages.


 

Since something is really screwed up here, I was going to cover all my 
bases.  It's letting me send email at the moment.  I'm not sure how long 
though.  I'm just emailing everybody in my list while I can.


Dale

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[gentoo-user] getting rid of gnome

2006-01-18 Thread Ernie Schroder
I've been trying to get rid of gnome. 
I have done 
# emerge -C gnome-icon-theme libgnomeui libbonoboui gconf after finding the 
first gnome packages wanted orbit, which I had already removed. Now:

$ sudo emerge -uDatv world

These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.10.1  -debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N]  gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.10.1  -debug -doc +jpeg -static 0 kB
[ebuild  N]   gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.10.1  +X -debug -doc -static 0 kB
[ebuild  N]gnome-base/gconf-2.10.1-r1  -debug -doc -static 0 kB
[ebuild  N] gnome-base/orbit-2.12.3  -debug -doc +ssl -static 0 kB
[ebuild U ] x11-terms/xterm-207 [204] -Xaw3d -doc -toolbar +truetype 
-unicode 727 kB

Total size of downloads: 727 kB

Do you want me to merge these packages? [Yes/No] 

How can I stop portage from wanting to update these packages? 
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Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:20:09 -0600, Dale wrote:

 Since something is really screwed up here, I was going to cover all my 
 bases.

The problem with that approach is that you don't know what the problem
was or how you fixed it, so what do you do if it happens again? It's like
the Windows if something goes wrong, reinstall mentality.

 It's letting me send email at the moment. I'm not sure how
 long though.  I'm just emailing everybody in my list while I can.

If it works and then stops working without you making any changes, it
sounds like a fault at your ISP's end.


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Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-18 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 00:05 -0600, Dale wrote:
 On Tuesday 17 January 2006 23:48, Iain Buchanan wrote:
 
 
  Get the mail server (that you entered in you mail preferences), eg
  mail.isp.com and type `dig mail.isp.com`.  (dig is part of  For your ip
  address, I'm interested in your real world ip, but don't post it
  here!!  ifconfig will get it IFF your using a modem, or pci-adsl, but if
  you have a networked modem/router, you'll need to connect to its status
  page to see what ip address you have.
 
 Is dig a command?  I don't have it if it is.  Keep in mind that I CAN send 
 email just not to anyone outside my ISP and only with Mozilla.  Kmail WILL 
 send email on both OSs.  I did get a error sometimes but Mozilla is 
 consistant about his one.  BTW, I did do a emerge -C mozilla and back up one 
 version, still nothing.  I have not done the older version on the new install 
 though.  I can if you want me too.
 
 
  They should be similar, however many isps have a few ip addresses that
  may not be ranged together.
 
  Looking at your other posts though, I don't know that this will help...
 
 
  really?  hmmm...
 
  I don't have kmail installed so I don't know how it works.  Can you look
  through the configuration to see if you can turn authentication on for
  sending mail?
 
 I did have to put in my password for Kmail.  I think they do the same way.  
 It's just that Mozilla don't work is all.  Well, on this OS, Mozilla won't 
 even open.  But it won't email on my new OS either.  If this confuses you, 
 let me know.  I'll post a better explaination.
 
 
 
  Finally, you could do some sniffing with ethereal.  Make a capture
  filter so you don't get other junk, eg host mail.exceedtech.net and
  then post the text-capture here.  Your isp may be giving out a different
  error which kmail is translating for you...
 
  post back if you need more help with ethereal.
 
 I did capture some data with ethereal before.  I'm going to try to do that 
 from my new install.  I'm in my old install right now.  I'm not sure why 
 though.  Habit I guess.  I can't capture it here because Mozilla no longer 
 works at all on this OS.
 
 Oh, what is UPSMON called now?  I need to install it on my new OS but I can't 
 find it.  Even emerge -s ups didn't return it.  Did they remove it?
 
 I'm going to boot the new OS, install ethereal then post from there, if I 
 can.  
 LOL
 
 Seriously, thanks for the help here.  I'm totally lost.  This is just to 
 weird 
 for me.  I hope I am making sense.
 
 Dale
 :-)

dig belongs to bind-tools.  It's in portage...

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Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-18 Thread Willie Wong
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 01:45:22AM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked:
 I have the same setting I use for Kmail actually.  server is 
 mail.exceedtech.net on port 25.  It is set to use user name and password and 
 secure connection is set to no.   I tried the others, it puked on me.  
 
 Keep in mind that I can send to say [EMAIL PROTECTED]dotnet just fine.  I 
 can 
 send to people that work there as well, even the owner.  I can even email 
 myself.  It is just when I try to send to someone else outside exceedtech 
 that it fails.  I can see it connect and the data going over ppp on gkrellm 
 and all.  I just keep getting that error.
 
 Kmail seems to work great on the new install.  I can send to anybody with it.
 
 Confusing huh
 

You can get the HELO from the mail server, and send mail to users on
your ISP's network, so that probably means that the outgoing part of
your setting is correct. But you still get a 'relay not permitted'
message and behaviour typical of ISPs blocking outgoing spam. 

Hum, is there a place in Mozilla to set your name/alias that goes in
the From field for an e-mail? Can you double check that to see if
you made a typo in the e-mail address or something? Sometimes ISPs
reject mails sent to be relayed by their servers that neither
originate nor end on their servers. 

HTH, 

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[gentoo-user] emerge sys-apps/dbus-0.23.4-r1 build error

2006-01-18 Thread Ondra Zahradnik
Hello,
please can help me with following error? Please just let me know what to look 
for.
emerging sys-apps/dbus-0.23.4-r1:

ImportError: No module named Pyrex.Compiler.Main
make[3]: [dbus_bindings.c] Error 1 (ignored)
...
gcc: dbus_bindings.c: No such file or directory
gcc: no input files
make[3]: *** [dbus_bindings.lo] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/dbus-0.23.4-r1/work/dbus-0.23.4/python'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/dbus-0.23.4-r1/work/dbus-0.23.4/python'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/dbus-0.23.4-r1/work/dbus-0.23.4'
make: *** [all] Error 2
...
!!! ERROR: sys-apps/dbus-0.23.4-r1 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 112, Exitcode 2

thank you very much.
Ondra Zahradnik

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge sys-apps/dbus-0.23.4-r1 build error

2006-01-18 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/18/06, Ondra Zahradnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 please can help me with following error? Please just let me know what to look 
 for.
 emerging sys-apps/dbus-0.23.4-r1:

 ImportError: No module named Pyrex.Compiler.Main
 make[3]: [dbus_bindings.c] Error 1 (ignored)

Looks like you updated python but didn't run the python-updater

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[gentoo-user] big problem with emerge

2006-01-18 Thread Manuel Pérez López
Hello everyone:

Yesterday I did a portage sync, and now I can not emerge anything. Help me to 
correct this issue. See this lines:

# emerge -pvuD world


Performing Global Updates: /usr/portage/profiles/updates/1Q-2006
(Could take a couple of minutes if you have a lot of binary packages.)
  .='update pass'  *='binary update'  @='/var/db move'
  s='/var/db SLOT move' S='binary SLOT move' p='update /etc/portage/package.*'
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/emerge, line 10, in ?
import portage
  File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 7480, in ?
do_upgrade(mykey)
  File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 7372, in do_upgrade
db[/][vartree].dbapi.move_ent(mysplit)
  File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 4683, in move_ent
origmatches=self.match(origcp,use_cache=0)
  File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 4829, in match
return match_from_list(mydep,self.cp_list(mykey,use_cache=use_cache))
  File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 4134, in match_from_list
raise KeyError, Specific key requires an operator (%s) (try adding an 
'=') % (mydep)
KeyError: Specific key requires an operator (dev-perl/DateTime-0.2901) (try 
adding an '=')
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[gentoo-user] Ebuild makin problem

2006-01-18 Thread Mike Yarmish
Guys! What reasons of a message path.ebuild does not exist could be 
when I'm trying to emerge a custom created ebuild with emerging by path? 
Sry for silly question but I'm new to the world of ebuild making.

Thank you in advance.
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Re: [gentoo-user] big problem with emerge

2006-01-18 Thread David Morgan
On 19:13 Wed 18 Jan , Manuel Pérez López wrote:
 Hello everyone:
 
 Yesterday I did a portage sync, and now I can not emerge anything. Help me to 
 correct this issue. See this lines:
 
 # emerge -pvuD world
 
 
 Performing Global Updates: /usr/portage/profiles/updates/1Q-2006
 (Could take a couple of minutes if you have a lot of binary packages.)
   .='update pass'  *='binary update'  @='/var/db move'
   s='/var/db SLOT move' S='binary SLOT move' p='update /etc/portage/package.*'
 KeyError: Specific key requires an operator (dev-perl/DateTime-0.2901) (try 
 adding an '=')

This is a known issue, which I think has been fixed now. So just emerge
sync again and you should be ok.

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Re: [gentoo-user] big problem with emerge

2006-01-18 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:13:08 +0100 Manuel Pérez López
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Yesterday I did a portage sync, and now I can not emerge anything.
| Help me to correct this issue. See this lines:

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119352

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Re: [gentoo-user] big problem with emerge

2006-01-18 Thread Nagatoro

Manuel Pérez López wrote:

Hello everyone:

Yesterday I did a portage sync, and now I can not emerge anything. Help me to 
correct this issue. See this lines:


run emerge --sync and try again.

It was a misstake by one developer.

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[gentoo-user] cruel unusual?

2006-01-18 Thread James


Well, hopefully, we're all familiar with the status line of an
'emerge sync' Updating Portage cache:   50%


Right before that, every time I sync I get this message:
speedup is 8.20


After months/years of 'speedup'  it should run very fast
in seconds, (or at least one would think).

Is this 'cruel  unusual' of is this the devs enjoying
some humor at our expense.?

PS (please don't take it seriously, as it's _HUMOR)
awe, 5 minutes later, it's 51%.but we have 'speedup'.

enjoy...

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Re: [gentoo-user] cruel unusual?

2006-01-18 Thread LostSon
On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 18:36 +, James wrote:
 
 Well, hopefully, we're all familiar with the status line of an
 'emerge sync' Updating Portage cache:   50%
 
 
 Right before that, every time I sync I get this message:
 speedup is 8.20
 
 
 After months/years of 'speedup'  it should run very fast
 in seconds, (or at least one would think).
 
 Is this 'cruel  unusual' of is this the devs enjoying
 some humor at our expense.?
 
 PS (please don't take it seriously, as it's _HUMOR)
 awe, 5 minutes later, it's 51%.but we have 'speedup'.
 
 enjoy...
 
 James
 
 
 I Always go out to have a smoke when it hits 50% : )
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[gentoo-user] hotplug remove action problem

2006-01-18 Thread CapSel
I wanted to make automation script that would add correct line tu
automount config file for usb devices. I made add script and remove
script, but remove script is not started even after reinserting any
usb storage device.
I added the line:

echo $REMOVER /var/log/udev-log

to usb.agent just after place where

remove)

 is, and the line

env  /var/log/udev-log

I noticed that there are only /var/run/usb/ lines made by echo
(there is no correct $REMOVER value) and env.

It does not work for any usb storage device that I have.

Is it a bug??
How can this be fixed?

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Re: [gentoo-user] getting rid of gnome

2006-01-18 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 11:56, a tiny voice compelled Arnau Bria Ramírez 
to write:
 El Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:36:23 -0500

 Ernie Schroder dijo:
  I've been trying to get rid of gnome.

 Try this:
 qpkg -nc -q -I -v gnome | grep '^[a-z]' | sed 's/^/=/' | xargs emerge -p
 unmerge

 I found it in forums a long time ago and it cleaned gnome from my system
 perfectly.

  I have done
  # emerge -C gnome-icon-theme libgnomeui libbonoboui gconf after finding
  the first gnome packages wanted orbit, which I had already removed. Now:
 
  $ sudo emerge -uDatv world
 
  These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:
 
  Calculating world dependencies ...done!
  [ebuild  N] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.10.1  -debug 0 kB
  [ebuild  N]  gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.10.1  -debug -doc +jpeg -static
  0 kB [ebuild  N]   gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.10.1  +X -debug -doc
  -static 0 kB [ebuild  N]gnome-base/gconf-2.10.1-r1  -debug -doc
  -static 0 kB [ebuild  N] gnome-base/orbit-2.12.3  -debug -doc
  +ssl -static 0 kB [ebuild U ] x11-terms/xterm-207 [204] -Xaw3d -doc
  -toolbar +truetype -unicode 727 kB
 
  Total size of downloads: 727 kB
 
  Do you want me to merge these packages? [Yes/No]
 
  How can I stop portage from wanting to update these packages?

 --
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 Somos una generacion de hombres criados por mujeres, me pregunto si
 realmente otra mujer será la respuesta que necesitamos
Well, I've tried Holly's suggestions and portage still wanted to add the gnome 
packages above. I tried your command and a lot of gnome packages were removed 
but now:

$ sudo emerge -uaDtNv world

These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N] x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.10.2  -accessibility -debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.10.1  -debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N]  gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-1.2.3  -debug -doc +ipv6 
-kerberos +ldap +mozilla -nntp +ssl 0 kB
[ebuild  N]   gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.10.1  -debug -doc +jpeg -static 0 kB
[ebuild  N]gnome-base/gnome-keyring-0.4.4  -debug -static 0 kB
[ebuild  N]gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.10.1  +X -debug -doc -static 0 kB
[ebuild  N] gnome-base/libgnome-2.10.1-r1  -debug -doc +esd -static 0 
kB
[ebuild  N] gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2.10.2  +X -debug -doc -static 0 
kB
[nomerge  ] media-gfx/gimp-2.2.8-r1  +aalib (-altivec) -debug -doc 
+gimpprint +gtkhtml -hardened +jpeg +lcms +mmx +mng +png +python -smp -sse 
-svg +tiff -wmf
[ebuild  N]  gnome-extra/gtkhtml-2.6.3  -accessibility -debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N]   gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.10.1-r2  -debug -doc -gnutls -hal 
-howl +ipv6 +samba +ssl 0 kB
[ebuild  N]gnome-base/libbonobo-2.10.1  -debug -doc -static 0 kB
[ebuild  N]gnome-base/gconf-2.10.1-r1  -debug -doc -static 0 kB
[ebuild  N]gnome-base/gnome-mime-data-2.4.2  -debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N]gnome-base/orbit-2.12.3  -debug -doc +ssl -static 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB

Do you want me to merge these packages? [Yes/No]   

This has me a bit confused. Could it be gimp compiled with some USE flag that 
is grabbing the gnome packages?
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[gentoo-user] DHCP Timeout Val not working

2006-01-18 Thread Kurt Guenther


I have Gentoo on my laptop and I'm frequently not connected to the 
network.  I had the DHCP timeout set to decent number and it worked for 
quite a while.  However, it seemed to quite working at some point.   My 
/etc/conf.d/net has:


config_eth0=( dhcp )
dhcpcd_eth0=-t 15

But, it seems to be back to the default of 60 (feels more like 3 
minutes).   I tried playing w/ /etc/conf.d/dhcp with no luck.   What 
could be wrong?


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Re: [gentoo-user] DHCP Timeout Val not working

2006-01-18 Thread Andrew Frink
i belive the newest stable x86 baslayout is set to background the net.ethx scripts after 5 seconds of somesuch-CynyrOn 1/18/06, Kurt Guenther 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I have Gentoo on my laptop and I'm frequently not connected to the
network.I had the DHCP timeout set to decent number and it worked forquite a while.However, it seemed to quite working at some point. My/etc/conf.d/net has:config_eth0=( dhcp )dhcpcd_eth0=-t 15
But, it seems to be back to the default of 60 (feels more like 3minutes). I tried playing w/ /etc/conf.d/dhcp with no luck. Whatcould be wrong?--Kurt--
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Re: [gentoo-user] getting rid of gnome

2006-01-18 Thread James Ausmus
On 1/18/06, Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday 18 January 2006 11:56, a tiny voice compelled Arnau Bria Ramírez
 to write:
  El Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:36:23 -0500
 
  Ernie Schroder dijo:
   I've been trying to get rid of gnome.
 
  Try this:
  qpkg -nc -q -I -v gnome | grep '^[a-z]' | sed 's/^/=/' | xargs emerge -p
  unmerge
 
  I found it in forums a long time ago and it cleaned gnome from my system
  perfectly.
 
   I have done
   # emerge -C gnome-icon-theme libgnomeui libbonoboui gconf after finding
   the first gnome packages wanted orbit, which I had already removed. Now:
  
   $ sudo emerge -uDatv world
  
   These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:
  
   Calculating world dependencies ...done!
   [ebuild  N] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.10.1  -debug 0 kB
   [ebuild  N]  gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.10.1  -debug -doc +jpeg -static
   0 kB [ebuild  N]   gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.10.1  +X -debug -doc
   -static 0 kB [ebuild  N]gnome-base/gconf-2.10.1-r1  -debug -doc
   -static 0 kB [ebuild  N] gnome-base/orbit-2.12.3  -debug -doc
   +ssl -static 0 kB [ebuild U ] x11-terms/xterm-207 [204] -Xaw3d -doc
   -toolbar +truetype -unicode 727 kB
  
   Total size of downloads: 727 kB
  
   Do you want me to merge these packages? [Yes/No]
  
   How can I stop portage from wanting to update these packages?
 
  --
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  Somos una generacion de hombres criados por mujeres, me pregunto si
  realmente otra mujer será la respuesta que necesitamos
 Well, I've tried Holly's suggestions and portage still wanted to add the gnome
 packages above. I tried your command and a lot of gnome packages were removed
 but now:

 $ sudo emerge -uaDtNv world

 These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:

 Calculating world dependencies ...done!
 [ebuild  N] x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.10.2  -accessibility -debug 0 kB
 [ebuild  N] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.10.1  -debug 0 kB
 [ebuild  N]  gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-1.2.3  -debug -doc +ipv6
 -kerberos +ldap +mozilla -nntp +ssl 0 kB
 [ebuild  N]   gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.10.1  -debug -doc +jpeg -static 0 kB
 [ebuild  N]gnome-base/gnome-keyring-0.4.4  -debug -static 0 kB
 [ebuild  N]gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.10.1  +X -debug -doc -static 0 kB
 [ebuild  N] gnome-base/libgnome-2.10.1-r1  -debug -doc +esd -static 0
 kB
 [ebuild  N] gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2.10.2  +X -debug -doc -static 0
 kB
 [nomerge  ] media-gfx/gimp-2.2.8-r1  +aalib (-altivec) -debug -doc
 +gimpprint +gtkhtml -hardened +jpeg +lcms +mmx +mng +png +python -smp -sse
 -svg +tiff -wmf
 [ebuild  N]  gnome-extra/gtkhtml-2.6.3  -accessibility -debug 0 kB
 [ebuild  N]   gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.10.1-r2  -debug -doc -gnutls -hal
 -howl +ipv6 +samba +ssl 0 kB
 [ebuild  N]gnome-base/libbonobo-2.10.1  -debug -doc -static 0 kB
 [ebuild  N]gnome-base/gconf-2.10.1-r1  -debug -doc -static 0 kB
 [ebuild  N]gnome-base/gnome-mime-data-2.4.2  -debug 0 kB
 [ebuild  N]gnome-base/orbit-2.12.3  -debug -doc +ssl -static 0 kB

 Total size of downloads: 0 kB

 Do you want me to merge these packages? [Yes/No]

 This has me a bit confused. Could it be gimp compiled with some USE flag that
 is grabbing the gnome packages?
 --

Looks like the gtkhtml USE flag is the culprit...

-James

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Re: [gentoo-user] getting rid of gnome

2006-01-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:21:19 -0500, Ernie Schroder wrote:

 These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:
 
 Calculating world dependencies ...done!
 [ebuild  N] x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.10.2  -accessibility -debug 0
 kB [ebuild  N] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.10.1  -debug 0 kB
 [ebuild  N]  gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-1.2.3  -debug -doc
 +ipv6 -kerberos +ldap +mozilla -nntp +ssl 0 kB

It looks like you have eds in your USE flags.

Can you post the output from emerge --info | grep USE.


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[gentoo-user] Re: A New Linux Way

2006-01-18 Thread Robin
On 1/17/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:07:23 +1300, Nick Rout wrote:

  I haven't been brave enough to read all of this thread, but as we seem
  to have gotten onto the topic of spelling, has anyone noticed that the
  saviour linux website now consists of:
 
  Saviour Linux
  comming soon!

 Yes,last week - hence my post about it not including a spell checker :)

 You don't need bravery to read this thread, just a sense of humo{,u}r.


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[gentoo-user] Re: A New Linux Way

2006-01-18 Thread Robin
What are you talking about ?  I was brave enough to read the entire
thread.  And it is well worth it, just for the laugh :)

On 1/17/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:07:23 +1300, Nick Rout wrote:

  I haven't been brave enough to read all of this thread, but as we seem
  to have gotten onto the topic of spelling, has anyone noticed that the
  saviour linux website now consists of:
 
  Saviour Linux
  comming soon!

 Yes,last week - hence my post about it not including a spell checker :)

 You don't need bravery to read this thread, just a sense of humo{,u}r.


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Re: [gentoo-user] DHCP Timeout Val not working

2006-01-18 Thread Kurt Guenther

Andrew Frink wrote:
i belive the newest stable x86 baslayout is set to background the 
net.ethx scripts after 5 seconds of somesuch

-Cynyr


Thanks for the response.

I'm on ~x86.  AFAIK, it doesn't fork until dhcpd gets an address or 
times out.


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[gentoo-user] Passing ./configure options via emerge

2006-01-18 Thread Tom Smith
I installed app-emulation/bochs using the default USE flags. Afterwards,
I tried to enable rfb but received a message that indicated it wasn't
enabled.

After some research, I discovered this is a configure option that
isn't enabled in the bochs ebuild script.

Is there a way to pass this sort of information to emerge so that it
adds these options to configure or do I just need to modify the ebuild
script to include them?

Thanks in advance for the help.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Passing ./configure options via emerge

2006-01-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:23:13 -0700, Tom Smith wrote:

 Is there a way to pass this sort of information to emerge so that it
 adds these options to configure or do I just need to modify the ebuild
 script to include them?

EXTRA_ECONF=--foo emerge bar - works with most ebuilds.


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Re: [gentoo-user] DHCP Timeout Val not working

2006-01-18 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/18/06, Kurt Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have Gentoo on my laptop and I'm frequently not connected to the
 network.  I had the DHCP timeout set to decent number and it worked for

Not a direct answer to your question, but you should check out
ifplugd.  It will allow your system to only bring up the network when
you are actually connected, so you don't have to wait for a dhcp
timeout when booting.

-Richard

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[gentoo-user] Re: cant use portage since last nights sync

2006-01-18 Thread Charles Marcus
Short answer: delete /usr/portage/profiles/updates/1Q-2006 and re-emerge 
sync;


Long answer: search the forums.


Objection...

Your long answer was shorter than your short answer... and vice versa...

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[gentoo-user] How to come back to Mac OS X?

2006-01-18 Thread Alessandro Di Rubbo

Hello to everyone,
  I've got an Apple iBook (Dual USB) with a Gentoo installation on it, 
but now I'm going to sell it and I would restore the original situation, 
installing Mac OS 9 and/or Mac OS X.
When I installed Gentoo, I deleted every partion related to Mac OS 
because I didn't need them, so now I have only the Apple_partion_map, 
the Apple_Bootstrap (where is Yaboot) and an empty partition (I've 
already removed my old Gentoo partitions).
I've tried to insert the Mac OS X (v 10.0.1) but the installer is not 
able to find any partion (hd): what can I do? Thank you very much for 
your help, in advance.


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Re: [gentoo-user] How to come back to Mac OS X?

2006-01-18 Thread John Jolet


On Jan 18, 2006, at 2:45 PM, Alessandro Di Rubbo wrote:


Hello to everyone,
  I've got an Apple iBook (Dual USB) with a Gentoo installation on  
it, but now I'm going to sell it and I would restore the original  
situation, installing Mac OS 9 and/or Mac OS X.
When I installed Gentoo, I deleted every partion related to Mac OS  
because I didn't need them, so now I have only the  
Apple_partion_map, the Apple_Bootstrap (where is Yaboot) and an  
empty partition (I've already removed my old Gentoo partitions).
I've tried to insert the Mac OS X (v 10.0.1) but the installer is  
not able to find any partion (hd): what can I do? Thank you very  
much for your help, in advance.


when it boots from the cd, find the hd tools app and run it.  you  
should be able to partition your hd with it.  not sure which folder  
that's in, though.



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Re: [gentoo-user] cruel unusual?

2006-01-18 Thread Nick Rout

On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:36:26 + (UTC)
James wrote:

 Right before that, every time I sync I get this message:
 speedup is 8.20
 
 
 After months/years of 'speedup'  it should run very fast
 in seconds, (or at least one would think).
 
 Is this 'cruel  unusual' of is this the devs enjoying
 some humor at our expense.?
 
 PS (please don't take it seriously, as it's _HUMOR)
 awe, 5 minutes later, it's 51%.but we have 'speedup'.

speedup relates to the transfer of the files via rsync, not the metadata
processing.

Thats why it comes straight after the files have been transferred and
before the metadata processing.

In fact the speedup message is generated by rsync, blame rsync's authors
:)

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[gentoo-user] emerge --sync vs emerge -sync

2006-01-18 Thread Charles Marcus
This may be the ultimate dumb question, but no amount of googling could 
satisfy my ignorance...


Is there any difference? If not, why are the double hyphens almost 
always specified?


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Re: [gentoo-user] How to come back to Mac OS X?

2006-01-18 Thread Jonathan Nichols

Alessandro Di Rubbo wrote:

Hello to everyone,
  I've got an Apple iBook (Dual USB) with a Gentoo installation on it, 
but now I'm going to sell it and I would restore the original situation, 
installing Mac OS 9 and/or Mac OS X.
When I installed Gentoo, I deleted every partion related to Mac OS 
because I didn't need them, so now I have only the Apple_partion_map, 
the Apple_Bootstrap (where is Yaboot) and an empty partition (I've 
already removed my old Gentoo partitions).
I've tried to insert the Mac OS X (v 10.0.1) but the installer is not 
able to find any partion (hd): what can I do? Thank you very much for 
your help, in advance.


Alessandro


10.0?!

My god, where did you find such an old CD? What happened to the media 
that came with the iBook?


Anyway, with a modern OS X CD, just boot it up. When the installer 
starts, choose Disk Utility from the menu in the upper left hand 
corner. I forgot what the menu is actually called, but Disk Utility 
should be under one of them.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Ebuild makin problem

2006-01-18 Thread Zac Medico
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Mike Yarmish wrote:
 Guys! What reasons of a message path.ebuild does not exist could be
 when I'm trying to emerge a custom created ebuild with emerging by path?
 Sry for silly question but I'm new to the world of ebuild making.
 Thank you in advance.

Do you have PORTDIR_OVERLAY properly configured (see `man make.conf`)?

Zac
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync vs emerge -sync

2006-01-18 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/18/06, Charles Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This may be the ultimate dumb question, but no amount of googling could
 satisfy my ignorance...

 Is there any difference? If not, why are the double hyphens almost
 always specified?

-- is the GNU getopt syntax for long options.  For normal GNU programs:

--opt is processed as a single option (opt)
-opt is processed as 6 options ('o', 'p', and 't').

--sync is correct.  -sync is wrong and generates an error.  sync
also works, but only because portage specifically looks for it.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] Passing ./configure options via emerge

2006-01-18 Thread Tom Smith
Well, I tried that and get the same error--PANIC bochsrc.txt:
display library 'rfb' not available.

So I tried to edit the ebuild file and add --with-rfb and get the
emerge error:

!!! Digest verification Failed:
!!!/usr/portage/app-emulation/bochs/bochs-2.2.1-r1.ebuild
!!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size

Is there a way I can override this behavior? (The file size obviously
doesn't match because I added an additional ./configure option to it.

Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:23:13 -0700, Tom Smith wrote:

  

Is there a way to pass this sort of information to emerge so that it
adds these options to configure or do I just need to modify the ebuild
script to include them?



EXTRA_ECONF=--foo emerge bar - works with most ebuilds.


  

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[gentoo-user] Problems installing Gentoo on an HP Netserver LH6000 (hangs loading RAID modules)

2006-01-18 Thread Jesus Rivero
Hello everyone,

   I've got a problem installing Gentoo on an HP NetServer LH6000. It
has an Adaptec RAID AIC78xx Controller.

   When i boot with a LiveCD and put doscsi to the kernel's command line
at boot time, it tries to load 3 kernel modules: sym53c8xx, aic78xxx and
scsi_transport_spi, but hangs in the process of loading, and i have to
reboot.

I've managed to start the LiveCd without SCSI detection and it loads
OK. But then, then, i modprobe those modules, they load, but i still
can't see the RAID disks. (no scsi devices in /dev)

The weird thing is that i tried installing a RedHat 9 just to see if
it was capable of seeing the RAID devices. it turns out that RedHat sees
the RAID devices loading exactly the same modules i tried to load with
Gentoo - sym53c8xx  and  aic78xxx.


 Any ideas on this? does anyone have cross with a similar problem?

 Any clues will be highly appreciated.

 Thanks a lot,

 Jesus Rivero
 Neurogeek

 PS: it hangs while loading aic78xxx

  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Passing ./configure options via emerge

2006-01-18 Thread Jesus Rivero
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Hello..

Now you have to re-digest/manifest your ebuild so it can reference
new MD5 fingerprints. emerge checks for that before calculating
dependencies.

Inside the ebuild directory, run:

  $  ebuild your-ebuild-file-including-.ebuild digest

  ex. ebuild gparted-0.0.8.ebuild digest
 
That will re-generate info on your ebuild so you can run emerge on
it.


Neurogeek

Tom Smith wrote:

 Well, I tried that and get the same error--PANIC bochsrc.txt:
 display library 'rfb' not available.

 So I tried to edit the ebuild file and add --with-rfb and get the
 emerge error:

 !!! Digest verification Failed: !!!
 /usr/portage/app-emulation/bochs/bochs-2.2.1-r1.ebuild !!! Reason:
 Filesize does not match recorded size

 Is there a way I can override this behavior? (The file size
 obviously doesn't match because I added an additional ./configure
 option to it.

 Neil Bothwick wrote:

 On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:23:13 -0700, Tom Smith wrote:



 Is there a way to pass this sort of information to emerge so
 that it adds these options to configure or do I just need to
 modify the ebuild script to include them?


 EXTRA_ECONF=--foo emerge bar - works with most ebuilds.





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[gentoo-user] ivtv-0.4.2 update broke my MythTV server?

2006-01-18 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   I tried updating the ivtv driver to the new 0.4.2 version this
morning and seem to have broken my MythTV server. I now only get
channel 4. Audio and picture are fine but the tuner/tuners won't
change channels. I have two PVR cards (a 150 and a 250) which were
working fine with the 0.4.0 driver.

   Has anyone else done this update and tested whether it's working
for them yet?

   I did try deleting and recreating the cards in mythsetup already.
That did not help. Other ideas gladly accepted.

   Off to read the forums and look at Bugzilla.

Thanks,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Java and java.library.path [solved]

2006-01-18 Thread darren kirby
quoth the Holly Bostick:

 Well, I don't know much about java either, but 4 out of 5 java programs
 I use are not started by program_name, but by java (-jar)
 program_name. This would be the java command-line, I imagine.

 Basically, the idea is that you have to invoke java so that java runs
 the program. Because the first argument in the command is java, you
 are then able to use various command-line switches for Java (such as the
 aforementioned -Djava.library.path=/usr/lib) before telling Java what
 program you want it to run (in this case iriverter).

 java -help
 Usage: java [-options] class [args...]
(to execute a class)
or  java [-options] -jar jarfile [args...]
(to execute a jar file)

 where options include:
 -client   to select the client VM
 -server   to select the server VM
 -hotspot  is a synonym for the client VM  [deprecated]
   The default VM is client.

 -cp class search path of directories and zip/jar files
 -classpath class search path of directories and zip/jar files
   A : separated list of directories, JAR archives,
   and ZIP archives to search for class files.
 -Dname=value
   set a system property
 -verbose[:class|gc|jni]
   enable verbose output
 -version  print product version and exit
 -version:value
   require the specified version to run
 -showversion  print product version and continue
 -jre-restrict-search | -jre-no-restrict-search
   include/exclude user private JREs in the version search
 -? -help  print this help message
 -Xprint help on non-standard options
 -ea[:packagename...|:classname]
 -enableassertions[:packagename...|:classname]
   enable assertions
 -da[:packagename...|:classname]
 -disableassertions[:packagename...|:classname]
   disable assertions
 -esa | -enablesystemassertions
   enable system assertions
 -dsa | -disablesystemassertions
   disable system assertions

 So I think what Trenton probably meant was that you should try starting
 the program with

 java -Djava.library.path=/usr/lib iriverter

This did not work, but see further:

 (assuming that iriverter is not a *.jar file in which case you'd need
 -jar before iriverter).

 You know, there's a high likelihood that the iriverter file in /usr/bin
 is a script that is readable in a text editor.

Good call, it was a script. Java is called from the script itself, as well as 
setting up the library path. I simply appended '/usr/lib/' to this path and 
voila! Fired right up.

Showing my ignorance here, I thought it would be a regular executable like 
everything else. Now I will know for the next time I must wrestle with some 
java app ;)

 You might want to see if you can have a look at it and see just what
 it's doing. A readme that tells you how to run the program (man
 iriverter? iriverter --help?) might be of some use, too.

I forgot to mention in my first post, the app itself had only generic install 
instructions and an empty README file, so there was no help there...

 Hope this helps,
 Holly

It helped a great deal, thank you very much,
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[gentoo-user] weird keyboard behaviour

2006-01-18 Thread Trenton Adams
Hi everyone,

I've been using gentoo linux for several months now.  Right from the
very beginning I have noticed very odd behviour with it, in regards to
keyboard input.  I have not seen this behaviour on other linux
distributions that use kernel 2.6.

Has anyone else noticed that ctrl-C using the right side of the
keyboard does not always work?  It's almost intermittent.  I have seen
this behaviour on every machine I've installed gentoo on, so I know
it's not a hardware problem.

Are there gentoo kernel changes related to HCIs such as the keyboard?

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[gentoo-user] Re: ivtv-0.4.2 update broke my MythTV server?

2006-01-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On 1/18/06, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
I tried updating the ivtv driver to the new 0.4.2 version this
 morning and seem to have broken my MythTV server. I now only get
 channel 4. Audio and picture are fine but the tuner/tuners won't
 change channels. I have two PVR cards (a 150 and a 250) which were
 working fine with the 0.4.0 driver.

Has anyone else done this update and tested whether it's working
 for them yet?

I did try deleting and recreating the cards in mythsetup already.
 That did not help. Other ideas gladly accepted.

Off to read the forums and look at Bugzilla.

 Thanks,
 Mark


Following up on the previous report. I found a number of old files
hanging around so I did an emerge -C ivtv and then removed everything
from /lib/modules that was left over and seemed remotely involved with
ivtv. Following that I re-emerged ivtv. The emerge went cleanly and
following a reboot I now have the first card (PVR-150) working
correctly. Unfortunately the second card just hangs up. I get 1 second
of video. The card freezes and then comes back to MythTV saying there
was a problem playing video. I hit escape and I'm back in Myth.

There is nothing strange to my eyes in dmesg:

ivtv:   START INIT IVTV 
ivtv:  version 0.4.2 (tagged release) loading
ivtv:  Linux version: 2.6.13-gentoo-r3-ht SMP preempt PENTIUM4 gcc-3.3
ivtv:  In case of problems please include the debug info between
ivtv:  the START INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines, along with
ivtv:  any module options, when mailing the ivtv-users mailinglist.
ivtv0: Autodetected WinTV PVR 150 card (cx23416 based)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :01:01.0[A] - GSI 22 (level, low) - IRQ 21
ivtv0: Unreasonably low latency timer, setting to 64 (was 32)
tveeprom: ivtv version
tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 26032, rev = C199, serial# = 8095579
tveeprom: tuner = TCL 2002N 5H (idx = 99, type = 50)
tveeprom: tuner fmt = NTSC(M) (eeprom = 0x08, v4l2 = 0x1000)
tveeprom: audio processor = CX25841 (type = 23)
tveeprom: decoder processor = CX25841 (type = 1c)
ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=tveeprom, addr=50]
tuner (ivtv): chip found at addr 0xc2 i2c-bus ivtv i2c driver #0
ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=(tuner unset), addr=61]
cx25840 0-0044: ivtv driver
cx25840 0-0044: cx25841-23 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
cx25840 0-0044: loaded v4l-cx25840.fw firmware (14264 bytes)
ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=cx25840, addr=44]
wm8775 0-001b: ivtv driver
wm8775 0-001b: chip found @ 0x36 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=wm8775, addr=1b]
ivtv0: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (262144 bytes)
ivtv0: Encoder revision: 0x02050032
ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder MPEG stream: 128 x 32768 buffers (4096KB total)
ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder YUV stream: 194 x 10800 buffers (2048KB total)
ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder VBI stream: 120 x 17472 buffers (2048KB total)
ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder PCM audio stream: 455 x 4608 buffers (2048KB total)
tuner: type set to 50 (TCL 2002N) by ivtv i2c driver #0
ivtv0: Initialized WinTV PVR 150, card #0
ivtv:  ==  NEXT CARD  ==
ivtv1: Autodetected WinTV PVR 250 card (cx23416 based)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :01:02.0[A] - GSI 17 (level, low) - IRQ 22
ivtv1: Unreasonably low latency timer, setting to 64 (was 32)
tveeprom: ivtv version
tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 32062, rev = C182, serial# = 7913638
tveeprom: tuner = LG TAPC H791F (idx = 82, type = 39)
tveeprom: tuner fmt = NTSC(M) (eeprom = 0x08, v4l2 = 0x1000)
tveeprom: audio processor = MSP3445 (type = c)
tveeprom: decoder processor = SAA7115 (type = 13)
ivtv1: i2c attach to card #1 ok [client=tveeprom, addr=50]
tuner (ivtv): chip found at addr 0xc2 i2c-bus ivtv i2c driver #1
ivtv1: i2c attach to card #1 ok [client=(tuner unset), addr=61]
saa7115 1-0021: ivtv driver
saa7115 1-0021: saa7115 found @ 0x42 (ivtv i2c driver #1)
ivtv1: i2c attach to card #1 ok [client=saa7115, addr=21]
msp3400 1-0040: ivtv driver
msp3400 1-0040: chip=MSP3445G-B8 +nicam +simple +simpler +radio mode=simpler
msp3400 1-0040: msp34xxg daemon started
ivtv1: i2c attach to card #1 ok [client=MSP3445G-B8, addr=40]
ivtv1: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (262144 bytes)
ivtv1: Encoder revision: 0x02050032
ivtv1: Allocate DMA encoder MPEG stream: 128 x 32768 buffers (4096KB total)
ivtv1: Allocate DMA encoder YUV stream: 194 x 10800 buffers (2048KB total)
ivtv1: Allocate DMA encoder VBI stream: 120 x 17472 buffers (2048KB total)
ivtv1: Allocate DMA encoder PCM audio stream: 455 x 4608 buffers (2048KB total)
tuner: type set to 39 (LG NTSC (newer TAPC series)) by ivtv i2c driver #1
ivtv1: Initialized WinTV PVR 250, card #1
ivtv:    END INIT IVTV  

Following the reboot this was added to the /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log

2006-01-18 14:48:34.106 New DB connection, total: 1
Starting up as the master server.
2006-01-18 14:48:34.590 New DB 

Re: [gentoo-user] Passing ./configure options via emerge

2006-01-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:52:26 -0700, Tom Smith wrote:

 Well, I tried that and get the same error--PANIC bochsrc.txt:
 display library 'rfb' not available.

OK, so this isn't one of most ebuilds

 So I tried to edit the ebuild file and add --with-rfb and get the
 emerge error:
 
 !!! Digest verification Failed:
 !!!/usr/portage/app-emulation/bochs/bochs-2.2.1-r1.ebuild
 !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size
 
 Is there a way I can override this behavior? (The file size obviously
 doesn't match because I added an additional ./configure option to it.

Add --digest to the emerge command.

 EXTRA_ECONF=--foo emerge bar - works with most ebuilds.


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[gentoo-user] Full Squid Cache

2006-01-18 Thread Ryan Viljoen
Hi all

I have a slight problem, my squid cache is full and hence I cant
browse any websites through the proxy. How does one get squid to clean
out old items? I would of thought squid would of removed older items.
I would prefer not to just delete it and recreate it but rather clean
it out.

Anyway any help would be appreciated.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Passing ./configure options via emerge

2006-01-18 Thread Tom Smith
Man, I tell you what...

Bochs built correctly and the RFB stuff worked... Sort of. There seems
to be an issue with both QEMU and Bochs when used via VNC. Both of them
were fairly easy to setup and get running and they work fine when I'm
sitting at the console. The problem is when I try to use them over a VNC
session on a virtual console (using vncserver). From what I can find,
there's an issue with mouse synchronization--an issue that pretty much
excludes these great products from being used in a Terminal Server-like
environment.

Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:52:26 -0700, Tom Smith wrote:

  

Well, I tried that and get the same error--PANIC bochsrc.txt:
display library 'rfb' not available.



OK, so this isn't one of most ebuilds

  

So I tried to edit the ebuild file and add --with-rfb and get the
emerge error:

!!! Digest verification Failed:
!!!/usr/portage/app-emulation/bochs/bochs-2.2.1-r1.ebuild
!!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size

Is there a way I can override this behavior? (The file size obviously
doesn't match because I added an additional ./configure option to it.



Add --digest to the emerge command.

  

EXTRA_ECONF=--foo emerge bar - works with most ebuilds.
  



  

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[gentoo-user] Re: ivtv-0.4.2 update broke my MythTV server? [SOLVED]

2006-01-18 Thread Mark Knecht
SOLVED - I updated the kernel to 2.6.15-gentoo and now it works. I do
not know if it was a problem where ivtv-0.4.2 doesn't work with 2.6.13
or whether I had something old still hanging around that was causing
problems.

Sorry for using the bandwidth.

- Mark

On 1/18/06, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
I tried updating the ivtv driver to the new 0.4.2 version this
 morning and seem to have broken my MythTV server. I now only get
 channel 4. Audio and picture are fine but the tuner/tuners won't
 change channels. I have two PVR cards (a 150 and a 250) which were
 working fine with the 0.4.0 driver.

Has anyone else done this update and tested whether it's working
 for them yet?

I did try deleting and recreating the cards in mythsetup already.
 That did not help. Other ideas gladly accepted.

Off to read the forums and look at Bugzilla.

 Thanks,
 Mark


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Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-18 Thread Dale
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 08:32, Neil Bothwick wrote:


 If it's a configuration issue, you replaced everything but the cause of
 the problem.

Excellant point.  Things have turned around a lot now I think.  My ISP was 
having some !problems! today.  They were calling !me! to tell them the error 
stuff because windoze would only tell them it was unable to connect but mine 
tells why.  So instead of me calling them so much, thay are calling me some 
now.

They did get it to where I can connect to the internet again.  I still have to 
use Kmail though to send anything.  At least I don't have to go to my 
brothers to get on the net.  It's bad enough using Kmail to talk to my 
ladies.  LOL

I fixed Mozilla on my OLD install.  It opens now.  I can get new messages with 
it at least.  This is the info for it:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -pv mozilla

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] www-client/mozilla-1.7.12-r2  +crypt -debug +gnome +ipv6 +java 
+ldap -mozcalendar -mozdevelop -moznocompose -moznoirc -moznomail -moznoxft 
-mozsvg -postgres +ssl +truetype -xinerama +xprint 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / #


I'm not sure what that ipv6 is for.  I put -ipv6 in the USE line of make.conf 
and it is still there.  How do I disable that thing?   I ask because I 
noticed this with Kmail:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -pv kmail

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kmail-3.5.0-r3  +arts -debug -kdeenablefinal 
-kdexdeltas -xinerama 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / #   

NO ipv6 there.  

I was told that management would be calling me in the morning to try to figure 
out my email issue.  I may take my computer up there and just let them look 
at it, without the root password of course.  I would still be driving my 
rig.  ;-)

If anybody has any ideas, I'm open to them.  I'm really starting to think this 
is a ISP problem though.  I thought it was before but I'm really thinking it 
now.

I'll keep you posted.

Dale
:-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-18 Thread Dale
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 08:20, Richard Fish wrote:


 A grep -i smtp of the ethereal trace you sent me shows that you are
 connecting to mail.exceedtech.net (65.116.46.23) from 4.253.131.84
 (dialup-4.253.131.84.Dial1.Houston1.Level3.net).  This doesn't look
 right...if exceedtech.net is your ISP you should be getting an address
 within their address space 65.116.(?).  Anyway this is why they think
 you are relaying...you are not connecting from their network, and not
 sending email to an exceedtech.net address.

 Maybe you have something wrong in your dialup settings?  Or maybe you
 can compare with what mail server KMail really contacts with an
 ethereal trace?

 -Richard


I noticed the address looked funny too.  They change it all the time though.  
You should have seen it when the hurricane hit and knocked out New Orleans.  
O_O

I'm sending you a new ethreal that I used to send email with Kmail to the same 
address as the last one.  Maybe you can notice something there.

Thanks much for the help.  If nothing else, maybe you can tell me what to tell 
them to fix.  I think they are listening more after the mess today.  My ISP 
is not huge but they are not tiny either.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-18 Thread Dale
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 08:22, Richard Fish wrote:
 traceroute -n mail.exceedtech.net

Usually traceroute does not work.  They block it somewhere and I get a but 
** stuff.  Anyway, this one worked, for once.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] / # traceroute -n mail.exceedtech.net
traceroute to mail.exceedtech.net (65.116.46.23), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  63.152.9.43  121.969 ms  120.002 ms  123.893 ms
 2  63.152.43.189  123.963 ms  119.943 ms  119.958 ms
 3  63.152.126.13  156.027 ms  159.922 ms  155.967 ms
 4  205.171.31.9  155.920 ms  156.014 ms  159.886 ms
 5  205.171.8.146  175.994 ms  179.910 ms  176.014 ms
 6  205.171.21.62  179.964 ms  175.912 ms  179.924 ms
 7  65.116.32.158  208.034 ms  203.868 ms  207.972 ms
 8  65.116.46.23  215.944 ms  211.945 ms  211.980 ms
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / #

That help any?  That's a lot of hops for me to be connected to their server 
huh?

I see what you are saying though.  It would be like if I connected with the 
modem to my brother's Bell South account and tried to send exceedtech email.  
Bell South may not want to handle what is exceedtech's data, basically.  
Which may be a good thing to fight spam but it is not right now.  I'm not a 
spammer, I just talk a lot.  LOL

Maybe I can explain this to them in the morning.  Maybe they will fix this 
thing already.  I'm going nuts here.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-18 Thread Dale
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 09:58, Michael Sullivan wrote:


 dig belongs to bind-tools.  It's in portage...

We may need it before it is over.  :/

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] getting rid of gnome

2006-01-18 Thread Dale
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 09:51, Holly Bostick wrote:

 That's all very well and good (leaving aside other packages-- like
 firefox, for example-- that might be dependent on the packages you
 uninstalled), but how did you install gnome in the first place?
snipy
 HTH,
 Holly


That's what broke my Mozilla then.  I removed all the gnome stuff I could 
find, it was a lot too.  LOL  this is funny, read about someone else doing 
something and figure out what broke mine.

Thanks Holly.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-18 Thread Glenn Enright
On Thursday 19 January 2006 05:41, Willie Wong wrote:
 Hum, is there a place in Mozilla to set your name/alias that goes in
 the From field for an e-mail? Can you double check that to see if
 you made a typo in the e-mail address or something? Sometimes ISPs
 reject mails sent to be relayed by their servers that neither
 originate nor end on their servers.


Some ISPs may also require your alias to be a specific thing, eg your real 
name, or the same as your email address. Silly but true.

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Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-18 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/18/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday 18 January 2006 08:22, Richard Fish wrote:
  traceroute -n mail.exceedtech.net

 Usually traceroute does not work.  They block it somewhere and I get a but
 ** stuff.  Anyway, this one worked, for once.

Tell them to cut that sh*t out.  Traceroute is far too useful of a
debugging tool to be blocked by your ISP.  Ok, so they don't want ICMP
flooding...there are better ways of recognizing and defending against
this...

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # traceroute -n mail.exceedtech.net
 traceroute to mail.exceedtech.net (65.116.46.23), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
  1  63.152.9.43  121.969 ms  120.002 ms  123.893 ms
  2  63.152.43.189  123.963 ms  119.943 ms  119.958 ms
  3  63.152.126.13  156.027 ms  159.922 ms  155.967 ms
  4  205.171.31.9  155.920 ms  156.014 ms  159.886 ms
  5  205.171.8.146  175.994 ms  179.910 ms  176.014 ms
  6  205.171.21.62  179.964 ms  175.912 ms  179.924 ms

This is crazy...this is all on QWest's network.  Was this from your
home, or from your brother's house?  Because it looks like you are
still connecting through someone else's network!

Maybe your first question to ask is whether exceedtech has their own
access numbers, or whether they lease them from other companies.  That
is the only reason I can think of you would have a level-3 address in
the morning, and a qwest address in the evening!

 That help any?  That's a lot of hops for me to be connected to their server
 huh?

The number of hops doesn't bother me...but the fact that you don't
start out on an exceed.net address does.  Here is what I get on Cox:

carcharias rjf # traceroute smtp.west.cox.net
traceroute to smtp.west.cox.net (68.6.19.4), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  192.168.2.1 (192.168.2.1)  1.151 ms  1.092 ms  1.087 ms
 2  10.117.128.1 (10.117.128.1)  9.290 ms  8.108 ms  11.160 ms
 3  ip68-2-6-93.ph.ph.cox.net (68.2.6.93)  33.443 ms  9.608 ms  15.850 ms
 4  68.2.13.94 (68.2.13.94)  15.123 ms  10.373 ms  16.376 ms
 5  68.2.13.9 (68.2.13.9)  8.174 ms  20.969 ms  15.987 ms
 6  68.2.13.5 (68.2.13.5)  12.353 ms  11.337 ms  16.227 ms
 7  * 68.2.13.1 (68.2.13.1)  12.494 ms  10.503 ms
 8  68.2.14.65 (68.2.14.65)  43.162 ms  11.696 ms  14.463 ms
 9  chndbbrc01-pos0103.rd.ph.cox.net (68.1.0.240)  9.944 ms  11.977 ms
chndbbrc01-pos0101.rd.ph.cox.net (68.1.0.164)  17.020 ms
10  fed1bbrc02-pos0102.rd.sd.cox.net (68.1.0.167)  20.230 ms  19.743
ms  20.047 ms
11  fed1dsrj02-so000.rd.sd.cox.net (68.1.0.207)  20.614 ms  18.560 ms  20.005 ms
12  68.6.8.198 (68.6.8.198)  29.634 ms  18.571 ms  19.673 ms
13  172.18.176.1 (172.18.176.1)  25.442 ms  17.996 ms  20.621 ms
14  172.18.176.1 (172.18.176.1)  24.843 ms  18.762 ms  18.625 ms
15  172.18.176.1 (172.18.176.1)  21.634 ms  17.584 ms  21.471 ms
16  172.18.176.1 (172.18.176.1)  23.933 ms  17.406 ms  19.978 ms
17  172.18.176.1 (172.18.176.1)  21.458 ms  21.400 ms  18.633 ms
18  172.18.176.1 (172.18.176.1)  27.909 ms  19.177 ms  21.069 ms


Ok, ignore the crazy routing loop at the end.  The point is that after
my firewall/gateway (192.168.2.1), and the modem (10.117.128.1), I am
on cox's network.

 I see what you are saying though.  It would be like if I cnnected with the
 modem to my brother's Bell South account and tried to send exceedtech email.
 Bell South may not want to handle what is exceedtech's data, basically.

Close...it would be more accurate to say that exceedtech doesn't want
bellsouth customers spoofing addresses and using exceedtech's mail
server.

 Maybe I can explain this to them in the morning.  Maybe they will fix this
 thing already.  I'm going nuts here.

Well, I think I can at least explain why KMail works and Mozilla
fails.  From the traces you sent me, kmail performs the following
exchange:

~/Desktop  grep SMTP ethereal-kmail
Response: 220 mirus.exceedtech.net ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.8/8.12.8; Wed,
18 Jan 2006 Command: EHLO
0-1pool99-184.nas1.columbus1.ms.us.da.qwest.net
Response: 250-mirus.exceedtech.net Hello
0-1pool99-184.nas1.columbus1.ms.us.da.qwest.net [65.136.99.184],
pleased to meet you
Command: MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=363
Response: 250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sender ok
Message Body
Response: 250 2.0.0 k0J39ewT002685 Message accepted for delivery
Command: QUIT
Response: 221 2.0.0 mirus.exceedtech.net closing connection

While mozilla does:
Response: 220 mirus.exceedtech.net ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.8/8.12.8; Wed,
18 Jan 2006 00:39:11 -0600\r\n
Command: EHLO [4.253.131.84]
Response: 250-mirus.exceedtech.net Hello
dialup-4.253.131.84.Dial1.Houston1.Level3.net [4.253.131.84], pleased
to meet you
Command: MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=382
Response: 250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sender ok
Command: RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Response: 550 5.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Relaying denied

Notice that mozilla actuall tells the mail server who you are sending
mail to, while kmail does not, and it is that command that actually
triggers the Relaying denied.

I'm not sure what you can do about this...it isn't 

Re: [gentoo-user] DHCP Timeout Val not working

2006-01-18 Thread Kurt Guenther

Richard Fish wrote:

On 1/18/06, Kurt Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I have Gentoo on my laptop and I'm frequently not connected to the
network.  I had the DHCP timeout set to decent number and it worked for



Not a direct answer to your question, but you should check out
ifplugd.  It will allow your system to only bring up the network when
you are actually connected, so you don't have to wait for a dhcp
timeout when booting.

-Richard

  


Thanks!  I like it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-18 Thread Dale
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 22:10, Glenn Enright wrote:


 Some ISPs may also require your alias to be a specific thing, eg your real
 name, or the same as your email address. Silly but true.



Can you tell me where this is?  I read off to my ISP what I have in my 
settings and they said it was correct.  Thing is, it works in Kmail, same 
settings too.  That is what is so confusing to me, maybe everybody else too.  

I sent Richard a file with the data I captured with ethereal.  Maybe he will 
see something.  It's pretty large to post here.

Me running out of ideas.  Maybe they will help fix it tomorrow.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-18 Thread Dale
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 22:04, Richard Fish wrote:
 On 1/18/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wednesday 18 January 2006 08:22, Richard Fish wrote:
   traceroute -n mail.exceedtech.net
 
  Usually traceroute does not work.  They block it somewhere and I get a
  but ** stuff.  Anyway, this one worked, for once.

 Tell them to cut that sh*t out.  Traceroute is far too useful of a
 debugging tool to be blocked by your ISP.  Ok, so they don't want ICMP
 flooding...there are better ways of recognizing and defending against
 this...

Me agrees with that but it is blocked above them and they can't get them to 
stop it.  It does tick me off sometimes too.




  [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # traceroute -n mail.exceedtech.net
  traceroute to mail.exceedtech.net (65.116.46.23), 30 hops max, 40 byte
  packets 1  63.152.9.43  121.969 ms  120.002 ms  123.893 ms
   2  63.152.43.189  123.963 ms  119.943 ms  119.958 ms
   3  63.152.126.13  156.027 ms  159.922 ms  155.967 ms
   4  205.171.31.9  155.920 ms  156.014 ms  159.886 ms
   5  205.171.8.146  175.994 ms  179.910 ms  176.014 ms
   6  205.171.21.62  179.964 ms  175.912 ms  179.924 ms

 This is crazy...this is all on QWest's network.  Was this from your
 home, or from your brother's house?  Because it looks like you are
 still connecting through someone else's network!

Well, one thing has changed since this morning.  They appear to have had a 
meltdown.  They said they were having trouble with everybody when I called 
after my nap.  I was here at home but they did give me a new number to dial 
in too.  That may explain something.

 snip 


I'm not sure either.  It sounds like Mozilla is doing what it should be doing 
and Kmail is not, if you look at it from the point of preventing spoofing and 
all.  I'll point this out to them tomorrow.

 I'm not sure what you can do about this...it isn't wrong to send the
 RCPT TO command, so it doesn't seem to be a bug in mozilla.  Possibly
 if you give this information (and maybe the ethereal traces) to
 exceedtech, they may be able to modify their mail server's
 configuration to compensate.  Or you could try thunderbird...

 -Richard


I like Mozilla so that I can right click on a link in a email and open it in a 
new tab instead of having 20 windows open at a time.  I hate clutter in my 
puter.  ;-)  I tried Thunderbird once, wasn't for me.  It may be better than 
Kmail but not that much.

Will keep advised on what happens in the morning though.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-18 Thread Iain Buchanan
Hi again,

sorry I didn't get back to you yesterday - I took my hard drive out last
night and replaced it with a new one (plus a fresh install) and I only
got it back up this morning.

I think the traceroute and ethereal are the two leads to follow here:

1. why are you dialling into exceedtech but getting an ip address on the
QWest network (according to Richard Fish - well spotted!)

and 

2. what is your mozilla setting:
Mail  Newsgroups Account Settings  Outgoing Server (SMTP)  Use
name and password (is it ticked or not?) and what is the Server Name?

Also,  wrt to mozilla itself not starting - a) did you start it from the
terminal or from a menu launcher?  b) If from the terminal, did you get
any output?  c) Do you get the prompt back? d) What happens when you do
`ps aux | grep mozilla` while mozilla is in it's won't start phase?.

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] cruel unusual?

2006-01-18 Thread Kumar Golap
 
  I Always go out to have a smoke when it hits 50% : )


and speedup your death by 10 minutes :(

Cheers,

Kumar

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Re: [gentoo-user] cruel unusual?

2006-01-18 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 18 January 2006 20:36, James wrote:
 Well, hopefully, we're all familiar with the status line of an
 'emerge sync' Updating Portage cache:   50%


 Right before that, every time I sync I get this message:
 speedup is 8.20


 After months/years of 'speedup'  it should run very fast
 in seconds, (or at least one would think).

 Is this 'cruel  unusual' of is this the devs enjoying
 some humor at our expense.?

 PS (please don't take it seriously, as it's _HUMOR)
 awe, 5 minutes later, it's 51%.but we have 'speedup'.

Actually, this is gone. Maybe you should try an emerge --sync and update 
portage afterwards. ;-)

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry about the spam

2006-01-18 Thread Kumar Golap
Questions:

1) why should i contribute to your fund instead of directly
contributing to the funds or companies that maintain the linux
distribution that i use.

2) There is already a linux standard base www.linuxbase.org...why
another one that nobody follows

3) how can your overhead be minimal or nothing ?...the best charitable
organizations have 20% overhead... zero overhead implies contribute
directly without going through third parties which you are..

4)  better the community ? with what better human beings ?

5) what's the criteria of who deserves to be paid by the money you collect ?

Cheers,

K


On 1/10/06, Mark Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Really, I should have thought more about the first e-mail (oops).
 Thank you for all your comments!

 Here is what the goal is (as of now):
 - To have some kind of useful standard among the many distributions.
 - To compensate those who need or want compensation for their hard
 work.  (The laborer is worthy of his/her wages.)
 - Community moderated, no controlling overhead like Microsoft.
 - Whatever they release will be completely free software.  No strings.

 United means we help each other develop and improve Linux
 software--separately.  So no united.  That's optional for now.

 How can people be interested?
 - It is just a fund paid by the community for the community
 - Overhead will be minimal, if anything.
 - People are already interested in Linux, and they would like to donate
 to a worthy cause. (Yes, this does mean that we would have to be worthy)

 What's the point?
 - Make Linux better
 - Increase Linux users (Microsoft users might convert)
 - Better the community
 - Pay people who deserve it


 Really, we could make Gentoo the official distribution of Saviour
 Linux.  Personally, I think it is the best.

 Mark Stewart

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Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-18 Thread Dale
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 23:33, Iain Buchanan wrote:
 Hi again,

 sorry I didn't get back to you yesterday - I took my hard drive out last
 night and replaced it with a new one (plus a fresh install) and I only
 got it back up this morning.

 I think the traceroute and ethereal are the two leads to follow here:

 1. why are you dialling into exceedtech but getting an ip address on the
 QWest network (according to Richard Fish - well spotted!)


I think my ISP is just second handing their accounts.  I picked up on this 
before when I was having trouble connecting a good while back.  The email 
server IS theirs though.  The rest belongs to some other company, I think.  I 
may be wrong.




 and

 2. what is your mozilla setting:
 Mail  Newsgroups Account Settings  Outgoing Server (SMTP)  Use
 name and password (is it ticked or not?) and what is the Server Name?



I read off to my ISP what I have it set to.  They said it is correct.  I'll 
shoot you a screenshot to you directly, if I don't forget.  I do that too 
sometimes.  May need to remind me.  LOL




 Also,  wrt to mozilla itself not starting - a) did you start it from the
 terminal or from a menu launcher?  b) If from the terminal, did you get
 any output?  c) Do you get the prompt back? d) What happens when you do
 `ps aux | grep mozilla` while mozilla is in it's won't start phase?.

 HTH,
 --
 Iain.


I tried starting it from both the menu and from a Konsole.  I was reading a 
thread about someone getting gnome stuff of their system.  Holly mentioned 
that Mozilla needed some gnome stuff to work.  I removed a lot of gnome stuff 
just before Mozilla stop opening.  I fixed this by doing this:  I did a fresh 
install the other day.  After I emerged kde-meta, I emerged mozilla.  I 
noticed there were about 8 or 9 other packages that were pulled in.  I got 
curious.  After I booted into the OLD OS, I mounted the partition of the NEW 
install and went digging in the emerge log.  I picked out the packages that 
it installed and then installed them on my OLD OS.  After that, Mozilla works 
fine.  Most likely, I unmerged something that Mozilla needed.  Oh, 
revdep-rebuild did NOT catch it either.  I'm not sure if it should, just 
saying it didn't.

My Mozilla works fine now so that is not a problem.  It does not send email 
though, well, unless it is to myself.  LOL

I'm supposed to talk to my ISP tomorrow.  I'll let you guys know what happens.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] Full Squid Cache

2006-01-18 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 19 January 2006 03:01, Ryan Viljoen wrote:
 Hi all

 I have a slight problem, my squid cache is full and hence I cant
 browse any websites through the proxy. How does one get squid to clean
 out old items? I would of thought squid would of removed older items.
 I would prefer not to just delete it and recreate it but rather clean
 it out.

Squid does that. Do you go with the default configuration of squid? That 
creates a rather small cache. Go to /etc/squid/squid.conf and change the last 
number for cache_dir from 256 to 1024 or 2048. Don't forget to uncomment that 
line. Restart squid. That should do it.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] cruel unusual?

2006-01-18 Thread darren kirby
quoth the Uwe Thiem:
 Actually, this is gone. Maybe you should try an emerge --sync and update
 portage afterwards. ;-)

Not on my system(s). It sped up for all of a day, then back to the same. And 
yes, my portage is up to date...

 Uwe

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