Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'
As far as I can see there is no chance neither to get my Radeon to cooperate with open source driver nor to turn on AIGLX with my fglrx, at least at the moment of writing. It's a pity, but allow me then to return to the secondary topic of this thread. Is it possible to enable some kind of a chooser which would allow me to choose whether I'd like to launch Xgl or Xorg? While working on my /usr/share/gdm/default.conf I've spotted a server called 'chooser'. Could you tell me what is this server doing and could it be a solution for my problem? Of course the choice doesn't have to be done in GDM. It could be a tiny bash script or a simple C++ application run in the default runlevel which would ask me for pressing a specific key to run Xorg - otherwise it will run Xgl - for example changing the line 0=Standard in the file I've mentioned above. Have you got ideas or do I have to write such an app by myself? Regards, Jan Stępień -- Mailjan at stepien com pl Jabber jano at jabber aster pl GG 1894343 Web http://stepien.com.pl signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Who does save my screen? (xorg-server-1.2.0)
On Thursday 25 January 2007 23:41, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: Hi! After updating up to xorg-server-1.2.0 after ~10-15min somebody turns my monitor off as I have configured this or that screensaver. But I have not changed anything at all. Where to dig in? Andrew maybe this one in xorg.conf.example at lines OPTION standby time 20 martins -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server and ati-drivers 'bussiness'
I'm having the same problems. ati-drivers insists on using X.org-7.1.0.0 or earlier, obviously because the drivers were compiled against that version. I don't have the ati-drivers source code so I can't tell if there was an ABI change that the driver enforces, or if ATI simply hardcoded the drivers to fail. I'm betting on the latter In either case the solution would appear to be a hard dependency on = X.org-7.1.0.0 in the ebuild. Have you submitted a bug to bgo? alan no, i didnt submit bug due to I dont understand what bug it is related to - xorg or ati-drivers or both ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] It is Bugday time once again!
Hi All! In one week it will be time for our monthly Bugday event! This is a reminder for you to buy your girlfriend some flowers, pay your parents to clean your room and make sure you have power for the computer and the net cable is plugged in! Join #Gentoo-Bugs on the Freenode IRC network and help us make Gentoo the best distribution ever! You can hang out; learn from others and try to fix as many bugs as possible. As usual a big team of developers will be there to assist you if you have any questions! Feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions about the Bugday event :) Remember, February the third is reserved for Bugday -- No matter what! Best regards, Alexander -- Alexander Færøy Bugday Lead Alpha/IA64/MIPS Architecture Teams User Relations, Quality Assurance pgpO6uXn8vW1Q.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Capture AVI DV, or RAW DV
Hi All, I would like to capture the content of some digital video tapes from a camcorder with a firewire connection onto my PC and burn a DVD with it. Editing would be nice, but not necessary at this stage and I am looking at kdenlive for this purpose (kino requires all of the Gnome libs, which I do not want to install on this machine). Unfortunately, kdenlive does not have a capture ability. I am thinking that there must be some engine-room-command available to do this without all the kino gui and dependencies. What would you suggest? -- Regards, Mick pgp6uwXiSVxjR.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles
Hello, My distfiles is getting quite big and I was thinking of symlinking it to another partition (just as a temporary solution until I find the time to re-partition my hard drive). I know I could just delete what I don't use, but I hope to keep them until the planned reinstall of Gentoo, so that I can use at least part of the 1.1 GiB (my bandwith is limited). Can symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles (and even /usr/tmp/portage) to directories on another ext2 partition hurt Portage? Are there any common pitfalls to this procedure? Are the rights on these directories preserved at the next mount or do I also have to edit fstab? Thanks, Vlad -- How's my English? How about my Netiquette? Do mail me if something is wrong with my behaviour. Thank you. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles
On Saturday 27 January 2007 13:16, Vlad Dogaru wrote: Hello, My distfiles is getting quite big and I was thinking of symlinking it to another partition (just as a temporary solution until I find the time to re-partition my hard drive). I know I could just delete what I don't use, but I hope to keep them until the planned reinstall of Gentoo, so that I can use at least part of the 1.1 GiB (my bandwith is limited). Can symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles (and even /usr/tmp/portage) to directories on another ext2 partition hurt Portage? Are there any common pitfalls to this procedure? Are the rights on these directories preserved at the next mount or do I also have to edit fstab? Do you know that you can use eclean to remove obsolete/older versions of source files from your /usr/portage/distfiles directory? Alternatively, you can just select and rm some of these manually to save some space. -- Regards, Mick pgprA2mmAaqgd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles
Vlad Dogaru wrote: Hello, My distfiles is getting quite big and I was thinking of symlinking it to another partition (just as a temporary solution until I find the time to re-partition my hard drive). I know I could just delete what I don't use, but I hope to keep them until the planned reinstall of Gentoo, so that I can use at least part of the 1.1 GiB (my bandwith is limited). Can symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles (and even /usr/tmp/portage) to directories on another ext2 partition hurt Portage? Are there any common pitfalls to this procedure? Are the rights on these directories preserved at the next mount or do I also have to edit fstab? Thanks, Vlad You can change the path to distfiles in make.conf and then move it there. You do know about eclean I assume? It will remove some of the tarballs that are no longer needed and give you some space back. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/dalek1967 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 08:58 +0100, Jan Stępień wrote: [...] Is it possible to enable some kind of a chooser which would allow me to choose whether I'd like to launch Xgl or Xorg? While working on my /usr/share/gdm/default.conf I've spotted a server called 'chooser'. Could you tell me what is this server doing and could it be a solution for my problem? A chooser in the GDM/XDMCP sense is a program that lists available hosts to log into (via XDMCP). I'm not aware of any program that will allow you to choose between X servers any more than I'm aware of a program that will allow you to pick MTAs. The simplest solution is to just pick one. Why would you want to bounce back and forth between X servers? Of course the choice doesn't have to be done in GDM. It could be a tiny bash script or a simple C++ application run in the default runlevel which would ask me for pressing a specific key to run Xorg - otherwise it will run Xgl - for example changing the line 0=Standard in the file I've mentioned above. Have you got ideas or do I have to write such an app by myself? Regards, Jan Stępień Why should you need to write anything. Forget GDM and if you want to run X then type X [ENTER]. If you want Xgl then Xgl [ENTER]. But again, why would you want to complicate your life with 2 different X servers? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Capture AVI DV, or RAW DV
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 10:54 +, Mick wrote: Hi All, I would like to capture the content of some digital video tapes from a camcorder with a firewire connection onto my PC and burn a DVD with it. Editing would be nice, but not necessary at this stage and I am looking at kdenlive for this purpose (kino requires all of the Gnome libs, which I do not want to install on this machine). Unfortunately, kdenlive does not have a capture ability. I am thinking that there must be some engine-room-command available to do this without all the kino gui and dependencies. What would you suggest? The easiest way is dvgrab. It's a command-line app that does one thing: grab video from a digital camcorder via Firewire. You can then use whatever program to edit the video as you see fit. Come with plenty of disk space. -m -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'
Albert Hopkins napisał(a): A chooser in the GDM/XDMCP sense is a program that lists available hosts to log into (via XDMCP). Thanks. It may be useful some day. Why should you need to write anything. Forget GDM and if you want to run X then type X [ENTER]. If you want Xgl then Xgl [ENTER]. But again, why would you want to complicate your life with 2 different X servers? I've begun this thread because of my difficulties with running some OpenGL applications, e.g. Americas Army, on my Xgl. If you'd like to read any details you can take a look at first posts of this topic. Regards, Jan Stępień -- Mailjan at stepien com pl Jabber jano at jabber aster pl GG 1894343 Web http://stepien.com.pl signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 15:06 +0100, Jan Stępień wrote: [...] I've begun this thread because of my difficulties with running some OpenGL applications, e.g. Americas Army, on my Xgl. If you'd like to read any details you can take a look at first posts of this topic. Then you probably don't want to use GDM or any other DM as they are primarily designed to manage displays that are already selected. What you want is more of a chicken-and-egg issue for a display manager. What you likely need is something to be run from the command line (i.e. *before* X is started). startx (or xinit) are perfect for this. No need to write any fancy program, it can pretty much do what you're asking: $ startx /path/to/program/that/needs/X.org -- /usr/bin/X $ startx -- /usr/bin/Xgl or whatever. There's probably a dozen other ways to do it. See the startx man page for details. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters
Hi everyone, Despite being a Gnome fan, I've been using few KDE apps, such as Amarok and Kile. I've emerged them on my Gentoo desktop with a Gnome environment. Unfortunately I'm not able to force a KDE apps to display Polish diacritical characters (e.g. ć, ł, ę). All I can see instead of them are small rectangles. I've tried to use qtconfig to change fonts but it hasn't solve the problem. In my USE flag unicode is disabled. I'm using ISO-8859-2 encoding. Taking into account that this is an international group, I hope that I'll be able to find someone who experienced similar problems and managed to find a solution. Help would be highly appreciated. Best regards, Jan Stępień -- Mailjan at stepien com pl Jabber jano at jabber aster pl GG 1894343 Web http://stepien.com.pl signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'
Albert Hopkins napisał(a): $ startx /path/to/program/that/needs/X.org -- /usr/bin/X $ startx -- /usr/bin/Xgl or whatever. There's probably a dozen other ways to do it. See the startx man page for details. Thanks, I'll take a look at the manual and give it a shot. Regards, Jan -- Mailjan at stepien com pl Jabber jano at jabber aster pl GG 1894343 Web http://stepien.com.pl signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 15:48 +0100, Jan Stępień wrote: Hi everyone, Despite being a Gnome fan, I've been using few KDE apps, such as Amarok and Kile. I've emerged them on my Gentoo desktop with a Gnome environment. Unfortunately I'm not able to force a KDE apps to display Polish diacritical characters (e.g. ć, ł, ę). All I can see instead of them are small rectangles. I've tried to use qtconfig to change fonts but it hasn't solve the problem. In my USE flag unicode is disabled. I'm using ISO-8859-2 encoding. Taking into account that this is an international group, I hope that I'll be able to find someone who experienced similar problems and managed to find a solution. Help would be highly appreciated. Disclaimer: I don't (often) use KDE... But there is a Settings://Accessibility/Regional Languages option (or similiar). Have you using that and setting it to Polish? ... also might want to check your $LANG and $LC_ALL environment variables... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters
On Saturday 27 January 2007 15:48:20 Jan Stępień wrote: Despite being a Gnome fan, I've been using few KDE apps, such as Amarok and Kile. I've emerged them on my Gentoo desktop with a Gnome environment. Unfortunately I'm not able to force a KDE apps to display Polish diacritical characters (e.g. ć, ł, ę). All I can see instead of them are small rectangles. I've tried to use qtconfig to change fonts but it hasn't solve the problem. In my USE flag unicode is disabled. I'm using ISO-8859-2 encoding. Taking into account that this is an international group, I hope that I'll be able to find someone who experienced similar problems and managed to find a solution. Help would be highly appreciated. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/guide-localization.xml#doc_chap3 Soo.. if you still have problems the output of: # locale -a # locale ? -- Bo Andresen pgpfwT3SEnhJu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Capture AVI DV, or RAW DV
On Saturday 27 January 2007 13:49, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 10:54 +, Mick wrote: Hi All, I would like to capture the content of some digital video tapes from a camcorder with a firewire connection onto my PC and burn a DVD with it. Editing would be nice, but not necessary at this stage and I am looking at kdenlive for this purpose (kino requires all of the Gnome libs, which I do not want to install on this machine). Unfortunately, kdenlive does not have a capture ability. I am thinking that there must be some engine-room-command available to do this without all the kino gui and dependencies. What would you suggest? The easiest way is dvgrab. It's a command-line app that does one thing: grab video from a digital camcorder via Firewire. You can then use whatever program to edit the video as you see fit. Come with plenty of disk space. He, he! :) I know what you mean. Thanks for the suggestion. dvgrab seems to do exactly what I want - well, if only the autosplit functioned as advertised - and it can also save the data in an avi wrapper. -- Regards, Mick pgpXbbNdFUOpA.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] KDE does not auto-mount my USB devices anymore
Hi, After the upgrade of dbus a few days ago, KDE won't mount my USB devices automatically anymore. Any suggestions where to start my search? -- Dan Johansson, http://www.dmj.nu *** This message is printed on 100% recycled electrons! *** pgp93lOJ4VrvT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help
All of the laptop's data has now been moved to the desktop system over the network. I still don't see how I can move the data back to the laptop after reformatting it. Is buying the laptop hard drive adapter the only way? - Grant On 1/26/07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really appreciate all the advice. I have about 11 of 12 GBs copied from the laptop to the desktop system now via the tar|ssh method so I guess I'll let that complete. Once it's done, how can I move the data back over the network to the reformatted laptop? - Grant On 1/26/07, Matthias Bethke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Grant, on Friday, 2007-01-26 at 09:47:51, you wrote: My laptop is currently still copying everything to my desktop system via tar and ssh. That's good. dd would be easier on the HD in case it's breaking but if you have a filesystem error you'd still have to fix that after copying back. If the HD is not about to die, tar (or rsync as Neil mentioned) is much better. When I ran rc this morning, I saw that ssh started so it must have stopped some time overnight as it usually does. The laptop was still running the tar | ssh command I had started the night before. Could the desktop be missing some of the laptop's data since the desktop wasn't running ssh all night, or would it catch up now that ssh is running? If the connection didn't break on the laptop side (ssh|tar reporting a broken pipe), you should be fine. cheers! Matthias -- I prefer encrypted and signed messages. KeyID: FAC37665 Fingerprint: 8C16 3F0A A6FC DF0D 19B0 8DEF 48D9 1700 FAC3 7665 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles
On 1/27/07, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vlad Dogaru wrote: Hello, My distfiles is getting quite big and I was thinking of symlinking it to another partition (just as a temporary solution until I find the time to re-partition my hard drive). I know I could just delete what I don't use, but I hope to keep them until the planned reinstall of Gentoo, so that I can use at least part of the 1.1 GiB (my bandwith is limited). Can symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles (and even /usr/tmp/portage) to directories on another ext2 partition hurt Portage? Are there any common pitfalls to this procedure? Are the rights on these directories preserved at the next mount or do I also have to edit fstab? Thanks, Vlad You can change the path to distfiles in make.conf and then move it there. You do know about eclean I assume? It will remove some of the tarballs that are no longer needed and give you some space back. Hi everyone, I had no idea about these settings in make.conf or about eclean. I apologise for not having read the proverbial manual thoroughly enough. One question though: is there a reason why PORTAGE_TMPDIR does not default to /tmp? Cheers, Vlad -- How's my English? How about my Netiquette? Do mail me if something is wrong with my behaviour. Thank you. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox VERY slow on launch
Nelson, David (ED, PARD) wrote: -Original Message- From: Gabriel Rossetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 January 2007 22:24 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox VERY slow on launch yes, I have that, but I had that before in my previous installation. FF seems slower (at launch) at school where they have a proxy server. If my memory is correct, it seems to do that when I go from my home network to my school's network and vice versa. Have you tried re-emerging firefox? Or possibly do a revdep-rebuild to check for missing libraries? Alternatively see if the binary package gives you the same issues? David Yes, but re-emerging did not help. I did install the binary client, and it does not have this problem. revdep-rebuild only wants gcc rebuild, it always does for some reason...I'm re-emerging it as we speak. Gabriel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE does not auto-mount my USB devices anymore
On Saturday 27 January 2007 11:13:28 am Dan Johansson wrote: Hi, After the upgrade of dbus a few days ago, KDE won't mount my USB devices automatically anymore. Any suggestions where to start my search? HAL and DBUS are wonderful tools with KDE. They tend to be problemmatic at times though. Since you upgraded dbus... did you by chance reload the hal and dbus daemons? Howabout restarting kde? Upgrades aren't always seamless and you have to kick the daemons from time to time. That said, I've dumped hal, dbus and all the related support from KDE and have gone over to using automount... Cheers. -- Jerry McBride -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'
Hi Jan, on Saturday, 2007-01-27 at 15:06:32, you wrote: I've begun this thread because of my difficulties with running some OpenGL applications, e.g. Americas Army, on my Xgl. I reckon most in America's army would love to have your problems. SCNR! =^ Matthias -- I prefer encrypted and signed messages. KeyID: FAC37665 Fingerprint: 8C16 3F0A A6FC DF0D 19B0 8DEF 48D9 1700 FAC3 7665 pgpPWJochKN5M.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help
I really appreciate all the advice. I have about 11 of 12 GBs copied from the laptop to the desktop system now via the tar|ssh method so I guess I'll let that complete. Once it's done, how can I move the data back over the network to the reformatted laptop? Well, tar|ssh simply done the other way round should do the trick. But Kashani has a point---if your connection is unstable, rsync has a big advantage over tar, so better just try his commandline. The thing I'm confused about is how I can get anything back to the laptop when it won't even have an OS on it. I could boot a LiveCD but I don't think I'll be able to connect to the wireless network. The laptop's card is a madwifi/ath0. When booted into the LiveCD, lspci does recognize the card but there is no net.ath0 interface. I don't have any ethernet connectivity to the Gentoo router since I don't have a crossover cable. - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 18:40 +0200, Vlad Dogaru wrote: Hossa. I had no idea about these settings in make.conf or about eclean. I apologise for not having read the proverbial manual thoroughly enough. One question though: is there a reason why PORTAGE_TMPDIR does not default to /tmp? Sometimes an ebuild needs to run scripts from the package's tarball for installation or something like that. Many people have an extra partition for /tmp that is mounted noexec to give people less opportunity to mess around with the system (for example build weird binaries for local root exploits). Apart from that it's often useful to have all ebuild-related stuff in one place (/tmp/ is often messy as hell so having a special tmp for building sounds like a good idea, especially if things go wrong and you need to check why). Jürgen Geuter -- ICQ #81510866 - http://the-gay-bar.com - MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help
On Saturday 27 January 2007 16:38, Grant wrote: All of the laptop's data has now been moved to the desktop system over the network. I still don't see how I can move the data back to the laptop after reformatting it. Is buying the laptop hard drive adapter the only way? Please try not to top post in this ML. Boot your laptop using a Linux LiveCD. Mount your hard drive (e.g. mount /dev/hda /mnt/hda. Start sshd. Go to your desktop and run something like: cat archive_file.bz2 | ssh -c blowfish [EMAIL PROTECTED] cd /mnt/hda ; tar -xjpvf archive_file.bz2 WARNING: I haven't tried it out, but you could adjust/adapt it and experiment with it. -- Regards, Mick pgp6fABzGBWIL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE does not auto-mount my USB devices anymore
On Saturday 27 January 2007 17:11, Jerry McBride wrote: On Saturday 27 January 2007 11:13:28 am Dan Johansson wrote: Hi, After the upgrade of dbus a few days ago, KDE won't mount my USB devices automatically anymore. Any suggestions where to start my search? HAL and DBUS are wonderful tools with KDE. They tend to be problemmatic at times though. Since you upgraded dbus... did you by chance reload the hal and dbus daemons? Howabout restarting kde? Upgrades aren't always seamless and you have to kick the daemons from time to time. That said, I've dumped hal, dbus and all the related support from KDE and have gone over to using automount... I needed to run revdep-rebuild following the dbus update. Have you done this? -- Regards, Mick pgprWVyrYAFUM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help
All of the laptop's data has now been moved to the desktop system over the network. I still don't see how I can move the data back to the laptop after reformatting it. Is buying the laptop hard drive adapter the only way? Please try not to top post in this ML. Sorry about that. In another stroke of bad luck my desktop's mouse stopped working at the same time my hard drive started acting up so I've been tabbing around firefox and using Gmail's Quick Reply which (predictably) top-posts. The mouse is working again now. Boot your laptop using a Linux LiveCD. Mount your hard drive (e.g. mount /dev/hda /mnt/hda. Start sshd. Go to your desktop and run something like: cat archive_file.bz2 | ssh -c blowfish [EMAIL PROTECTED] cd /mnt/hda ; tar -xjpvf archive_file.bz2 I guess my problem is getting the laptop back on the wireless-only network with a madwifi card when the LiveCD doesn't have a net.ath0 interface. I did just try chrooting into my laptop's /dev/hda3 copy on my desktop system with: chroot /home/grant/hda3 /bin/bash and the vi command always seg faults. Does that mean the /dev/hda3 image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from scratch and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's re-installed? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles
On Saturday 27 January 2007 18:14, Jürgen Geuter wrote: On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 18:40 +0200, Vlad Dogaru wrote: One question though: is there a reason why PORTAGE_TMPDIR does not default to /tmp? Many people have an extra partition for /tmp that is mounted noexec to give people less opportunity to mess around with the system (for example build weird binaries for local root exploits). Apart from that it's often useful to have all ebuild-related stuff in one place I would add that since /tmp is often cleaned on boot-up, /var/tmp is considered a less temporary place than /tmp. For example, if you hose your /opt/foo directory, then assuming you have an appropriate version of /foo in /var/tmp/portage, when you re-emerge foo it will skip steps that don't need to be done again (because they have already been completed and left results in /var/tmp/portage). Jeff Rollin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help
Hello, On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 10:51:48AM -0800, Grant wrote: and the vi command always seg faults. Does that mean the /dev/hda3 image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from scratch and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's re-installed? I would try putting it all back and re-emerge everything (emerge -vaD --emptytree world). It would fix if anything bad happened to the compiled things and you could start using the things which survived sooner. Hope it works well for you -- Anyone seen smoking will be considered on fire and will be put out immediately. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpKQ6oWmT4fO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles
On 1/27/07, Jeffrey Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 27 January 2007 18:14, Jürgen Geuter wrote: On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 18:40 +0200, Vlad Dogaru wrote: One question though: is there a reason why PORTAGE_TMPDIR does not default to /tmp? Many people have an extra partition for /tmp that is mounted noexec to give people less opportunity to mess around with the system (for example build weird binaries for local root exploits). Apart from that it's often useful to have all ebuild-related stuff in one place I would add that since /tmp is often cleaned on boot-up, /var/tmp is considered a less temporary place than /tmp. For example, if you hose your /opt/foo directory, then assuming you have an appropriate version of /foo in /var/tmp/portage, when you re-emerge foo it will skip steps that don't need to be done again (because they have already been completed and left results in /var/tmp/portage). Thanks to everyone for all your help and for the clarification. Have a nice day, Vlad -- How's my English? How about my Netiquette? Do mail me if something is wrong with my behaviour. Thank you. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help
and the vi command always seg faults. Does that mean the /dev/hda3 image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from scratch and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's re-installed? I would try putting it all back and re-emerge everything (emerge -vaD --emptytree world). It would fix if anything bad happened to the compiled things and you could start using the things which survived sooner. I tried re-emerging vim from within the chroot and I got: /usr/portage/eclass/vim.eclass: line 342: make: command not found What do you think? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters
Jan Stępień wrote: In my USE flag unicode is disabled. I'm using ISO-8859-2 encoding. Why not use Unicode? The mail you sent uses UTF-8, why not use that everywhere? Benno -- Cetere mi opinias ke ne ĉio tradukenda estas. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help
Grant wrote: and the vi command always seg faults. Does that mean the /dev/hda3 image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from scratch and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's re-installed? I would try putting it all back and re-emerge everything (emerge -vaD --emptytree world). It would fix if anything bad happened to the compiled things and you could start using the things which survived sooner. I tried re-emerging vim from within the chroot and I got: /usr/portage/eclass/vim.eclass: line 342: make: command not found What do you think? Have you checked the laptop drive? If it is faulty then re-installing is just wasting your time. I would recommend checking the drive with smartmontools before going any further. Given the problems outlined above, I would make a package for it on your desktop and do a binary install of the result on the laptop. Good luck Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help
and the vi command always seg faults. Does that mean the /dev/hda3 image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from scratch and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's re-installed? I would try putting it all back and re-emerge everything (emerge -vaD --emptytree world). It would fix if anything bad happened to the compiled things and you could start using the things which survived sooner. I tried re-emerging vim from within the chroot and I got: /usr/portage/eclass/vim.eclass: line 342: make: command not found What do you think? Have you checked the laptop drive? If it is faulty then re-installing is just wasting your time. I would recommend checking the drive with smartmontools before going any further. Given the problems outlined above, I would make a package for it on your desktop and do a binary install of the result on the laptop. I haven't checked the laptop drive yet. Can I make a smartmontools package for the x86 laptop on the amd64 desktop? How can I do that? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE does not auto-mount my USB devices anymore
On Saturday 27 January 2007 19:31, Mick wrote: On Saturday 27 January 2007 17:11, Jerry McBride wrote: On Saturday 27 January 2007 11:13:28 am Dan Johansson wrote: Hi, After the upgrade of dbus a few days ago, KDE won't mount my USB devices automatically anymore. Any suggestions where to start my search? HAL and DBUS are wonderful tools with KDE. They tend to be problemmatic at times though. Since you upgraded dbus... did you by chance reload the hal and dbus daemons? Howabout restarting kde? Upgrades aren't always seamless and you have to kick the daemons from time to time. That said, I've dumped hal, dbus and all the related support from KDE and have gone over to using automount... I needed to run revdep-rebuild following the dbus update. Have you done this? Yes, revdep-rebuild is done and all daemons and KDE are restarted (reboot). I can see in dmesg that the device is being recognized: usb-storage: device found at 38 usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning Vendor: PretecModel: 01GB Rev: 2.00 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 SCSI device sdd: 2015231 512-byte hdwr sectors (1032 MB) sdd: Write Protect is off sdd: Mode Sense: 00 00 00 00 sdd: assuming drive cache: write through SCSI device sdd: 2015231 512-byte hdwr sectors (1032 MB) sdd: Write Protect is off sdd: Mode Sense: 00 00 00 00 sdd: assuming drive cache: write through sdd: sdd1 sd 20:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sdd sd 20:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg4 type 0 usb-storage: device scan complete I can manually mount sdd1 but thats not really what I want. -- Dan Johansson, http://www.dmj.nu *** This message is printed on 100% recycled electrons! *** pgpNmt06lX9Wx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help
Grant wrote: and the vi command always seg faults. Does that mean the /dev/hda3 image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from scratch and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's re-installed? I would try putting it all back and re-emerge everything (emerge -vaD --emptytree world). It would fix if anything bad happened to the compiled things and you could start using the things which survived sooner. I tried re-emerging vim from within the chroot and I got: /usr/portage/eclass/vim.eclass: line 342: make: command not found What do you think? Have you checked the laptop drive? If it is faulty then re-installing is just wasting your time. I would recommend checking the drive with smartmontools before going any further. Given the problems outlined above, I would make a package for it on your desktop and do a binary install of the result on the laptop. I haven't checked the laptop drive yet. Can I make a smartmontools package for the x86 laptop on the amd64 desktop? How can I do that? Actually, I just noticed that smartmontools is installed on the livecd, so just use that! Post the output of '/usr/sbin/smartctl -d ata -a /dev/hda' - (assuming that your hard drive *is* /dev/hda of course...) Cheers Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up a home router
Would it be ok for me to email you off list to get some help with a new setup of Shorewall that I did? It would be, but i am not sure if i can help you, because i have dropped shorewall and i am no firewall expert. I would suggest you to look at the shorewall guides at the shorewall homepage, they explain some custom settings very well! Then if you have problems post it on the shorewall mailing list. The shorewall maintainer himself is very active and does a good job on this list. Regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help
and the vi command always seg faults. Does that mean the /dev/hda3 image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from scratch and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's re-installed? I would try putting it all back and re-emerge everything (emerge -vaD --emptytree world). It would fix if anything bad happened to the compiled things and you could start using the things which survived sooner. I tried re-emerging vim from within the chroot and I got: /usr/portage/eclass/vim.eclass: line 342: make: command not found What do you think? Have you checked the laptop drive? If it is faulty then re-installing is just wasting your time. I would recommend checking the drive with smartmontools before going any further. Given the problems outlined above, I would make a package for it on your desktop and do a binary install of the result on the laptop. I haven't checked the laptop drive yet. Can I make a smartmontools package for the x86 laptop on the amd64 desktop? How can I do that? Actually, I just noticed that smartmontools is installed on the livecd, so just use that! Post the output of '/usr/sbin/smartctl -d ata -a /dev/hda' - (assuming that your hard drive *is* /dev/hda of course...) That command takes less than a second to complete and there is a lot of output. One thing that jumps out at me is: ATA Error Count: 868 Is there anything else I should post? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help
Grant wrote: and the vi command always seg faults. Does that mean the /dev/hda3 image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from scratch and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's re-installed? I would try putting it all back and re-emerge everything (emerge -vaD --emptytree world). It would fix if anything bad happened to the compiled things and you could start using the things which survived sooner. I tried re-emerging vim from within the chroot and I got: /usr/portage/eclass/vim.eclass: line 342: make: command not found What do you think? Have you checked the laptop drive? If it is faulty then re-installing is just wasting your time. I would recommend checking the drive with smartmontools before going any further. Given the problems outlined above, I would make a package for it on your desktop and do a binary install of the result on the laptop. I haven't checked the laptop drive yet. Can I make a smartmontools package for the x86 laptop on the amd64 desktop? How can I do that? Actually, I just noticed that smartmontools is installed on the livecd, so just use that! Post the output of '/usr/sbin/smartctl -d ata -a /dev/hda' - (assuming that your hard drive *is* /dev/hda of course...) That command takes less than a second to complete and there is a lot of output. One thing that jumps out at me is: ATA Error Count: 868 Is there anything else I should post? Hmmm - sounds like its seen 868 read/write errors. However to advise you better we need to see the output. I suspect it is huge because there are error details for each of the 868 errors. How about post the first 200 lines of the smartctl output to the list? Cheers Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 08:38:23 -0800, Grant wrote: All of the laptop's data has now been moved to the desktop system over the network. I still don't see how I can move the data back to the laptop after reformatting it. The same way you copied it from the laptop in the first place: boot from a live CD and copy it with rsync or that tar+ssh hack. -- Neil Bothwick Suicide is the most sincere form of self-criticism. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 23:09:22 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: The same way you copied it from the laptop in the first place: boot from a live CD and copy it with rsync or that tar+ssh hack. And as your laptop's drive may not be trustworthy, I'd run rsync a second time, immediately after the first. If it tries to copy any files again, something is most likely amiss with the drive. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 17: Clearly misunderstood signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE does not auto-mount my USB devices anymore
After the upgrade of dbus a few days ago, KDE won't mount my USB devices automatically anymore. Any suggestions where to start my search? I remember that I had to recompile kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves after hal and dbus upgrade to make the automount feature in kde work again ... maybe you can try that ... brgds, Marc ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 19:05:18 +, Jeffrey Rollin wrote: I would add that since /tmp is often cleaned on boot-up, /var/tmp is considered a less temporary place than /tmp. For example, if you hose your /opt/foo directory, then assuming you have an appropriate version of /foo in /var/tmp/portage, when you re-emerge foo it will skip steps that don't need to be done again (because they have already been completed and left results in /var/tmp/portage). Only if you emerge with FEATURES=keepwork, otherwise emerge clears out the temporary files after completing an emerge and before starting a new one. another reason for using /var/tmp is that /tmp is often too small, especially if using tmpfs. -- Neil Bothwick Despite the cost of living, have you noticed how it remains so popular? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help
Hmmm - sounds like its seen 868 read/write errors. However to advise you better we need to see the output. I suspect it is huge because there are error details for each of the 868 errors. How about post the first 200 lines of the smartctl output to the list? Here are the first 91 lines. After that it looks like error specifics. Please let me know what you think or if you need more info. smartctl version 5.36 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Fujitsu MHT2xxxAT/MHU2100AT series Device Model: FUJITSU MHT2040AT Serial Number:NN50T481446T Firmware Version: 0022 User Capacity:40,007,761,920 bytes Device is:In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: 6 ATA Standard is: ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 3a Local Time is:Sat Jan 27 15:47:38 2007 UTC SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x00) Offline data collection activity was never started. Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete Offline data collection: ( 293) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities:(0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. Conveyance Self-test supported. Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities:(0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability:(0x01) Error logging supported. No General Purpose Logging support. Short self-test routine recommended polling time:( 2) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time:( 40) minutes. Conveyance self-test routine recommended polling time:( 2) minutes. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 100 093 046Pre-fail Always - 169149 2 Throughput_Performance 0x0005 100 100 030Pre-fail Offline - 15663104 3 Spin_Up_Time0x0003 100 100 025Pre-fail Always - 0 4 Start_Stop_Count0x0032 099 099 000Old_age Always - 1012 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 024Pre-fail Always - 8559870279687 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 100 100 047Pre-fail Always - 3006 8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0005 100 100 019Pre-fail Offline - 0 9 Power_On_Seconds0x0032 075 075 000Old_age Always - 12656h+03m+48s 10 Spin_Retry_Count0x0013 100 100 020Pre-fail Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000Old_age Always - 926 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 100 100 000Old_age Always - 103 193 Load_Cycle_Count0x0032 066 066 000Old_age Always - 340716 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 100 070 000Old_age Always - 43 (Lifetime Min/Max 13/66) 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 100 100 000Old_age Always - 4244 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 100 100 000Old_age Always - 124838871047 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 091 091 000Old_age Always - 10 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 092 092 000Old_age Offline - 16 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count0x003e 200 196 000Old_age Always - 143 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x000f 100 100 060Pre-fail Always - 28028 203 Run_Out_Cancel 0x0002 100 100 000Old_age Always - 433780032038 SMART Error Log Version: 1 ATA Error Count: 868 (device log contains only the most recent five errors) CR = Command Register [HEX] FR = Features Register [HEX]
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help
All of the laptop's data has now been moved to the desktop system over the network. I still don't see how I can move the data back to the laptop after reformatting it. The same way you copied it from the laptop in the first place: boot from a live CD and copy it with rsync or that tar+ssh hack. The problem with booting into the LiveCD is I can't get on the network. I don't have a crossover cable to connect to the Gentoo router (although I'm ordering a switch), and I don't think the LiveCD supports madwifi since it doesn't have a net.ath0 interface. I had just booted normally and copied /dev/hda3 over before. - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help
and the vi command always seg faults. Does that mean the /dev/hda3 image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from scratch and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's re-installed? I would try putting it all back and re-emerge everything (emerge -vaD --emptytree world). It would fix if anything bad happened to the compiled things and you could start using the things which survived sooner. I tried re-emerging vim from within the chroot and I got: /usr/portage/eclass/vim.eclass: line 342: make: command not found What do you think? Have you checked the laptop drive? If it is faulty then re-installing is just wasting your time. I would recommend checking the drive with smartmontools before going any further. Given the problems outlined above, I would make a package for it on your desktop and do a binary install of the result on the laptop. I haven't checked the laptop drive yet. Can I make a smartmontools package for the x86 laptop on the amd64 desktop? How can I do that? Actually, I just noticed that smartmontools is installed on the livecd, so just use that! Post the output of '/usr/sbin/smartctl -d ata -a /dev/hda' - (assuming that your hard drive *is* /dev/hda of course...) That command takes less than a second to complete and there is a lot of output. One thing that jumps out at me is: ATA Error Count: 868 Is there anything else I should post? Hmmm - sounds like its seen 868 read/write errors. However to advise you better we need to see the output. I suspect it is huge because there are error details for each of the 868 errors. How about post the first 200 lines of the smartctl output to the list? I did a fresh format and install with the GTK installer from a LiveCD and on the second boot errors are detected in the file system. I guess it's over for this drive? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] net.eth0 net.eth1 net.eth2 persist in trying to come up even though not in any run level.
Richard Watson wrote: Hi, I recently upgraded my system with emerge -uDN world. Afterwards I found that net.eth0 was grabbing my firewire port (ieee1394) and I needed to create net.eth2 for my NIC as net.eth1 was being assigned to my wireless. My problem is that although rc-update show indicates all my interfaces are NOT being loaded other than net.lo at boot (which is what I want) my system keeps trying to start net.eth0 net.eth1 net.eth2 in the default run level. Can anybody help? It's very frustrating waiting for these interfaces to try and connect before timing out. I've always run my network connection on this basis as Gentoo is on my laptop and depending where I am will determine which interface I want to use. Thanks, Richard rm /etc/init.d/net.eth0 rm /etc/init.d/net.ath1 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USB external hard drive erratic behaviour
b.n. wrote: Hi, I have an external USB hard drive that is giving me troubles about half of the time. Symptoms are the following: - Writing a large file very often stalls for a few seconds and is overall slow (sometimes VERY slow, that is half an hour/gb) - Trying to start a vmware image on the external drive automatically *unmounts* the drive without notice. /var/log/messages in this case shows me the following errors: kernel: usb 1-4: device descriptor read/64, error -110 Some other time the image starts but the guest OS finds lots of troubles and I/O errors on the virtual disk. - Read/write operations result in thousands of the following lines: Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: *** thread sleeping. Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: queuecommand called Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: *** thread awakened. Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: Command READ_10 (10 bytes) Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: 28 00 06 b0 cc ef 00 00 40 00 Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: Bulk Command S 0x43425355 T 0x240d L 32768 F 128 Trg 0 LUN 0 CL 10 Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: usb_stor_bulk_transfer_buf: xfer 31 bytes Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: Status code 0; transferred 31/31 Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: -- transfer complete Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: Bulk command transfer result=0 Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: usb_stor_bulk_transfer_sglist: xfer 32768 bytes, 3 entries Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: Status code 0; transferred 32768/32768 Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: -- transfer complete Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: Bulk data transfer result 0x0 Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: Attempting to get CSW... Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: usb_stor_bulk_transfer_buf: xfer 13 bytes Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: Status code 0; transferred 13/13 Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: -- transfer complete Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: Bulk status result = 0 Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: Bulk Status S 0x53425355 T 0x240d R 0 Stat 0x0 Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: scsi cmd done, result=0x0 Jan 17 23:55:31 voynich usb-storage: *** thread sleeping. The drive seems to work good on Ubuntu and Windows XP, and has also *sometimes* worked well here. Any hint? Thanks, m. Sounds like it is not caching all writes. Search for USB Linux cache 'slow write'. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help
On 1/28/07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did just try chrooting into my laptop's /dev/hda3 copy on my desktop system with: chroot /home/grant/hda3 /bin/bash and the vi command always seg faults. Does that mean the /dev/hda3 image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from scratch and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's re-installed? You may have neglected to setup /dev /proc and /sys for the chroot environment. The gentoo install handbook will *should* show you how to get these going. -- Kent -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help
On 1/28/07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't checked the laptop drive yet. Can I make a smartmontools package for the x86 laptop on the amd64 desktop? How can I do that? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list ... that could also possibly explain why vim is dying, if you've compiled amd64 in 64 bit mode some of your 32bit apps might complain. ;) -- /ent Fredric (aka theJackal) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help
I did a fresh format and install with the GTK installer from a LiveCD and on the second boot errors are detected in the file system. I guess it's over for this drive? If its within its warranty, send it back and ask for a replacement. Make sure try get a technical explanation of what exactly is wrong with it. -- Kent -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help
Grant wrote: === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED Well - although says its passed - if you run any of the self-tests I would expect to see a change to 'failed'. You might want to run the 'short' or 'long' tests (-t short or -t long) and see what happens but given the state indicated below... I'd conclude 'She's dead Jim' at this point and start looking for another disk (also check the warranty for your laptop). 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 100 100 047Pre-fail Always - 3006 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 100 100 000Old_age Always - 124838871047 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 091 091 000Old_age Always - 10 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 092 092 000Old_age Offline - 16 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count0x003e 200 196 000Old_age Always - 143 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x000f 100 100 060Pre-fail Always - 28028 These indicate things are not well. Error 868 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 12653 hours (527 days + 5 hours) Well yes - 868 actual errors ... not good. The last disk I got replaced under warranty did not have a SMART report as bad as this (4 offline uncorrectable and 10 read errors) regards Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list