[gentoo-user] midi problem - not working
I emerge -ev kguitar with flag +midi +arts +oss etc, but it's not working, alsa and other players dvd-cd-mp3 etc ok, a litle help pls would be welcome, my laptop is a toshiba satellite a30, gentoo works perfect just no midi files can be played, thanks! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ghosting a Ext3 partition
On Sunday 02 March 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What supports what is a good reason for non-filesystem backups. For example partimage has trouble with XFS (still...after all these years...). A program like dd doesn't care the fs. Call it a device backup if you like. This is your basic choice in backup - device or fs. Me personally, dd_rescue - far better than raw dd. The advantage of something like partimage, which knows about the filesystem being backed up, is that it can back up only the used portions of the fs. So eg if you're backing up a 20GB partition of which only 1GB is in use, then using partimage it will be very quick and the resulting image very small. -- Crayon -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] TeXlive with non-English hyphenation?
Hello, Does someone use TeXlive and has encountered and solved non-English hyphenation problems? I have tried both babel.sty with the german/germanb options and german.sty from the package texlive-langgerman, always giving the command \selectlanguage{german} babel.sty gives Package babel Warning: No hyphenation patterns were loaded for (babel)the language `German' (babel)I will use the patterns loaded for \language=0 instead. german.sty gives german -- \language number for German undefined, default 255 used, german -- Please read gerdoc.tex how to install hyphenation patterns. german -- \language number for Austrian undefined, default 255 used. german -- \language number for French undefined, default 255 used. Many thanjks for any hints! Regards, ralf -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Ghosting a Ext3 partition
Crayon Shin Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 02 March 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What supports what is a good reason for non-filesystem backups. For example partimage has trouble with XFS (still...after all these years...). A program like dd doesn't care the fs. Call it a device backup if you like. This is your basic choice in backup - device or fs. Me personally, dd_rescue - far better than raw dd. The advantage of something like partimage, which knows about the filesystem being backed up, is that it can back up only the used portions of the fs. Yes, it can. But you achieve the same (only used stuff is backed up) with a simpler tool like tar as well. So eg if you're backing up a 20GB partition of which only 1GB is in use, then using partimage it will be very quick and the resulting image very small. Then the tar file will also be just 1GB. I really don't see the benefit in using things like partimage or Ghost. Michael -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get the x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776-r1 back?
Hi, On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 4:05 AM, Daevid Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I emerge again, and it gives me 96.43.05. Now when I start X, I have a blank/black screen. This driver is NOT working with my card. Okay I followed the Wiki as instructed to the letter. Same EXACT problem. It all seems to go fine, but I get a black screen when X starts. Not like a back-lit one either. Like power off black. I know X is running, I can see the processes, and it doesn't seem locked up either. I just can't see anything. I also have a nVidia 440 Go with the same problem. I fixed by including the line Option UseDisplayDevice DFP in the Screen section of /etc/X11/xorg.xonf. However, now I can't use an external Monitor/Beamer. Thanks for the ideas, I think it's just this P.O.S. card and the fact that nVidia is screwing me by not supporting it anymore in these later drivers. Not sure why Willie's works though. That is curious, hopeful and frustrating at the same time. I think nVidia is to blame! It once worked flawlessly. Regards, Henry -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Ghosting a Ext3 partition
Another way to do (I do it actually) Is to get a drive with ext3 partition for example Create a directory for your backup and use Rsync to copy any file with differential feature. First time could take a long time, next time are very fast. To backup everythink on the system, I run the single use mode, It kill all the application runned ... so after, I mount bind root fs and over sub fs in tmp dir, mount my backup dir in another tmp dir and run mirror with rsync Fast, excellent, could easyly be migrate on another kind of server, or could restore only some filesystem. It's good ! Good luck Le Wednesday 05 March 2008 12:55:41 Michael Schmarck, vous avez écrit : Crayon Shin Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 02 March 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What supports what is a good reason for non-filesystem backups. For example partimage has trouble with XFS (still...after all these years...). A program like dd doesn't care the fs. Call it a device backup if you like. This is your basic choice in backup - device or fs. Me personally, dd_rescue - far better than raw dd. The advantage of something like partimage, which knows about the filesystem being backed up, is that it can back up only the used portions of the fs. Yes, it can. But you achieve the same (only used stuff is backed up) with a simpler tool like tar as well. So eg if you're backing up a 20GB partition of which only 1GB is in use, then using partimage it will be very quick and the resulting image very small. Then the tar file will also be just 1GB. I really don't see the benefit in using things like partimage or Ghost. Michael signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips
Hi all, Sometime in the last month someone posted (in a thread that went wildly OT) a definite way to determine if an Intel cpu is 32 or 64 bit. Unfortunately I can't find the post anymore. It involved checking the cpu-family, model and flags fields in cpuinfo. Could that same kind soul please repost the info? And if possible the same for AMD? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips
O/H Alan McKinnon έγραψε: Hi all, Sometime in the last month someone posted (in a thread that went wildly OT) a definite way to determine if an Intel cpu is 32 or 64 bit. Unfortunately I can't find the post anymore. It involved checking the cpu-family, model and flags fields in cpuinfo. Could that same kind soul please repost the info? And if possible the same for AMD? gentoo-wiki's article about safe cflags has the information you want... http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags for pentium4, the ones with the prescott core are 64bit... at /proc/cpuinfo you should see with a prescott: cpu_family:15 model : 3 or 4 you could also look for the pni cpuflag... -- Stratos Psomadakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox update results in Yahoo request for newer version
The main probleme could be that they use firefox 3 and yahoo are not ready so they prefer to cancel this navigator whereas accept it anyway Iceaweasel it's not a problem, they just add and extra user agent in about:config (agent ... extra) But I have it without any problem with yahoo service on firefox 2 That's for the tips on pango any way, I will try it Le Thursday 03 January 2008 20:17:04 Randy Barlow, vous avez écrit : Mark Knecht wrote: On my wife's 32-bit Gentoo machine we did a large Gnome update today which ended up doing Firefox-2.0.0.11 at the same time. On her machine I happen to use Yahoo as my home page and now I see a very boring home page with Yahoo giving me this message: Why miss out? To see all the new Yahoo! home page has to offer, please upgrade to a more recent browser. I use Firefox on a 32-bit system (built from source, not binary) and I do not see this problem! -- Randy Barlow http://electronsweatshop.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox update results in Yahoo request for newer version
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 6:21 AM, cypherstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The main probleme could be that they use firefox 3 and yahoo are not ready so they prefer to cancel this navigator whereas accept it anyway Iceaweasel it's not a problem, they just add and extra user agent in about:config (agent ... extra) But I have it without any problem with yahoo service on firefox 2 That's for the tips on pango any way, I will try it SNIP This is an old thread. The problem cleared up after a couple of days, maybe Jan. 7th or 8th IIRC. It is no longer a problem here. Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get the x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776-r1 back?
On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 01:17:03PM +0100, Penguin Lover Henry Gebhardt squawked: I also have a nVidia 440 Go with the same problem. I fixed by including the line Option UseDisplayDevice DFP in the Screen section of /etc/X11/xorg.xonf. However, now I can't use an external Monitor/Beamer. Ah! That could be it. Sounds familiar. I've never tried connecting an external monitor or beamer, but have you tried connecting the monitor, either commenting out the above line or change it to CRT instead of DFP, and starting x? From my understanding, the problem is probably the driver trying to output, by default, to the non-existing beamer/extern monitor. Your fix effectively tells the driver to ignore all CRT devices and just output to the DFP... W -- BOOKThere is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarrely inexeplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened. - Introduction to Fit the Seventh. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 453 days, 13:47 -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] midi problem - not working
On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 10:25:05AM +0200, Penguin Lover Dimitrios Ropokis squawked: I emerge -ev kguitar with flag +midi +arts +oss etc, but it's not working, alsa and other players dvd-cd-mp3 etc ok, a litle help pls would be welcome, my laptop is a toshiba satellite a30, gentoo works perfect just no midi files can be played, thanks! Which version of kguitar? I don't have it installed, but looking at the one in my tree (-0.5), the ebuild does not care about the midi use flag. I think what you need is a midi player, something like timidity++ perhaps? W -- M: Even when I know what I am doing, I don't know what I am doing. M: Like, this first semester, I knew I was going to be an ORFE major, but look at me now... I am definitely a classics major... Sortir en Pantoufles: up 453 days, 14:02 -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips
Alan McKinnon wrote: Hi all, Sometime in the last month someone posted (in a thread that went wildly OT) a definite way to determine if an Intel cpu is 32 or 64 bit. Unfortunately I can't find the post anymore. It involved checking the cpu-family, model and flags fields in cpuinfo. Could that same kind soul please repost the info? And if possible the same for AMD? cat /proc/cpuinfo and look for lm, which stands for long mode, under the flags. I'm pretty sure that works for Intel and AMD. kashani -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips
another way to test is to run a livecd in amd64 mode on new intel chips if it doesn't work, try the ia64 version if it doesn't work ... your intel is a 32 bits version :) Le Wednesday 05 March 2008 16:47:10 kashani, vous avez écrit : Alan McKinnon wrote: Hi all, Sometime in the last month someone posted (in a thread that went wildly OT) a definite way to determine if an Intel cpu is 32 or 64 bit. Unfortunately I can't find the post anymore. It involved checking the cpu-family, model and flags fields in cpuinfo. Could that same kind soul please repost the info? And if possible the same for AMD? cat /proc/cpuinfo and look for lm, which stands for long mode, under the flags. I'm pretty sure that works for Intel and AMD. kashani signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Gnome CD automount fails without error
Hi guys I'm using GNOME on gentoo and I like the behavior where usb drives will pop up a nautilus window on plugin. I always expected this behavior on CDs as well, but for some reason, I only noticed today (after quite a while of using, since I haven't plugged in a CD for quite a while) that it doesn't work. So I've been investigating a bit on some things to check. 1) my cdrom mount point. the cdrom mount point is owned by root.cdrom and has rwx,rx,- permisions All relevant users are members of the root.cdrom group. however this seems to me completely irrelevant since as far as i recall, gnome-volume-manager should automatically just create a mount point for the cdrom. 2) my fstab entry I've tried without an fstab entry, and with. When I work with an entry, it looks like this: /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom udf,iso9660 users,noauto 0 0 again, this looks irrelevant to me since my alternate system (ubuntu) uses almost the same fstab with just root partitions switched around and the automount seems to work fine. 3) plugdev membership. all relevant users are members of plugdev. plugdev seems to properly create USB devices when things are pluggied in. 4) device file my hard disks are /dev/sda and /dev/sdb my cdrom is in /dev/hdb cdrom permissions give me [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls /dev/hdb -l brw-rw 1 root cdrom 3, 64 Mar 6 2008 /dev/hdb this is i think statically created by udev. 5) kernel and stuff [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -r 2.6.23-gentoo-r3 6) gnome-volume-manager -d no (runs gnome-volume-manager in the foreground) is completely silent. 7) The CDs themselves. They seem to work when I do a mount from the command line. Is there anything else I need to check? I want the cdrom to pop up correctly. On a tangent, i noticed that all my partitions are appearing in the nautilus sidebar bookmarks and also my desktop. I have quite a number of partitions, so this isn't the behavior I expect. When I click my Places menu, I notice that my partitions are listed in removable media. How do I take them out? -- thing.
Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Here is the output of my cpuinfo, I'll point out where it will mean 64bit. For the sake of this demonstration, I have only pasted one (1) CPU. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 15 model : 75 model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ -- Here will be your first indication. 64 bit processors, weather they are SPARC, AMD or intel, must identify themselves clearly in the model name field. stepping: 2 cpu MHz : 1000.000 -- forgive this, my cpu's are idle at the moment and speedstep droped me down for the moment. cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 2 -- If you are a multi-core CPU, this will tell you how many cores per processor. All cores are identical, so if you have a 64-bit Dual/Quad-Core CPU, then all cores are 64bit. fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow rep_good pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy -- you can look for flags that may give away 64bit, such as lahf_lm, lm and nx. bogomips: 2010.67 TLB size: 1024 4K pages clflush size: 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc For reference, this is a good read talking about 64 Bit processors and how to identify them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHzswf8hUIAnGfls4RArR2AJ9X+BYt338vuPAK6Pa0Lmcbtp6GLgCcDAn4 QaXGbnhOKYx2PMKhVBpu5I8= =9QKB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips
O/H cypherstrong έγραψε: another way to test is to run a livecd in amd64 mode on new intel chips if it doesn't work, try the ia64 version if it doesn't work ... your intel is a 32 bits version :) no need for the ia64... it's for intel's itanium cpus... ia64 is not compatible with x86... if he had an itanium machine, he would definitely know it... -- Stratos Psomadakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips
Of course :) the test for amd64 could be fast with a livecd ... or with cpuinfo and good knowledge of flags Le Wednesday 05 March 2008 17:45:16 Stratos Psomadakis, vous avez écrit : O/H cypherstrong έγραψε: another way to test is to run a livecd in amd64 mode on new intel chips if it doesn't work, try the ia64 version if it doesn't work ... your intel is a 32 bits version :) no need for the ia64... it's for intel's itanium cpus... ia64 is not compatible with x86... if he had an itanium machine, he would definitely know it... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with FONTS under X
Hmm... I've try revdep-rebuild after each 'emerge -vea world' when nothing happens, packages reemerges and nothing else. Everything was OK, no reemerges by revdep-rebuild. I've drop some C/CXXFLAGS like -fno-strict-aliasing and nothing happens. Also I recompile xorg-server couple times with xf86-input-keyboard, xf86-input-mouse, xf86-input-evdev, xf86-video-i810, libdrm and mesa - still no luck. I'm trying to change my xorg.conf but everything is OK with that config - chipset 965G works good, no Xorg.log errors, warnings etc. I give You also my make.conf file like this: ---[/etc/make.conf] CFLAGS=-O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -march=nocona -mtune=nocona CXXFLAGS=-O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -march=nocona -mtune=nocona CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu LINGUAS=pl USE=-ipv6 -xprint curl xinerama mdnsresponder-compat xcomposite accessibility qt4 nptl usb bluetooth pdf xine xscreensaver dri acpi laptop gif jpeg png unicode sse sse2 ssse3 mmx mmxext kde X alsa opengl glut # USE=opengl alsa X kde4 qt gtk mmx mmxext sse sse2 ssse3 glut xorg dri amrnb amrwb FEATURES=-sandbox ccache buildpkg MAKEOPTS=-j3 PKGDIR=/root/.packages ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~amd64 VIDEO_CARDS=i810 i965 intel --- Here is GLXINFO: name of display: :0.0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes server glx vendor string: SGI server glx version string: 1.2 server glx extensions: GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group client glx vendor string: SGI client glx version string: 1.4 client glx extensions: GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_OML_sync_control, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap GLX version: 1.2 GLX extensions: GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 965GM 4.1.3002 OpenGL version string: 1.4 Mesa 7.0.2 OpenGL extensions: GL_ARB_depth_texture, GL_ARB_fragment_program, GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multisample, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_point_parameters, GL_ARB_shadow, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_ARB_texture_compression, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two, GL_ARB_texture_rectangle, GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object, GL_ARB_vertex_program, GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra, GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate, GL_EXT_blend_func_separate, GL_EXT_blend_logic_op, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint, GL_EXT_cull_vertex, GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array, GL_EXT_convolution, GL_EXT_copy_texture, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_EXT_fog_coord, GL_EXT_histogram, GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays, GL_EXT_packed_pixels, GL_EXT_point_parameters, GL_EXT_polygon_offset, GL_EXT_rescale_normal, GL_EXT_secondary_color, GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, GL_EXT_shadow_funcs, GL_EXT_stencil_wrap, GL_EXT_subtexture, GL_EXT_texture, GL_EXT_texture3D, GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_EXT_texture_object, GL_EXT_texture_rectangle, GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_3DFX_texture_compression_FXT1, GL_APPLE_client_storage, GL_APPLE_packed_pixels, GL_ATI_blend_equation_separate, GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip, GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_INGR_blend_func_separate, GL_MESA_pack_invert, GL_MESA_ycbcr_texture, GL_MESA_window_pos, GL_NV_blend_square, GL_NV_light_max_exponent, GL_NV_texture_rectangle, GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_OES_read_format, GL_SGI_color_matrix, GL_SGI_color_table, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_lod,
[gentoo-user] Solved! midi problem - not working - now works!
I emerge -C timidity++ with use flags found at www.gentoo-portage.com and emerge timitidy++ then # rc-update add timidity default # /etc/init.d/timidity start and ok! kguitar-0.5 works! tnks a lot! I emerge -ev kguitar with flag +midi +arts +oss etc, but it's not working, alsa and other players dvd-cd-mp3 etc ok, a litle help pls would be welcome, my laptop is a toshiba satellite a30, gentoo works perfect just no midi files can be played, thanks! Which version of kguitar? I don't have it installed, but looking at the one in my tree (-0.5), the ebuild does not care about the midi use flag. I think what you need is a midi player, something like timidity++ perhaps? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips
+++ Chris Brennan [gentoo-user] [Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 11:36:47AM -0500]: Here is the output of my cpuinfo, I'll point out where it will mean 64bit. For the sake of this demonstration, I have only pasted one (1) CPU. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family: 15 model : 75 model name: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ -- Here will be your first indication. 64 bit processors, weather they are SPARC, AMD or intel, must identify themselves clearly in the model name field. They do identify themselves, but they may not indicate 64 vs. 32 bit. From my Core2 running 64-bit: processor : 3 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 15 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPUQ6600 @ 2.40GHz stepping: 11 cpu MHz : 2400.000 cache size : 4096 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 4 core id : 3 cpu cores : 4 fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 10 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good pni monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr lahf_lm bogomips: 4799.96 clflush size: 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: -- // Andrew MacKenzie | http://www.edespot.com // GPG public key: http://www.edespot.com/~amackenz/public.key // You will remember, Watson, how the dreadful business of the // Abernetty family was first brought to my notice by the depth which the // parsley had sunk into the butter upon a hot day. // -- Sherlock Holmes pgpZMoR2s4YHf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome CD automount fails without error
Could you go on Desktop / Preferences / Removable Drives and Media ??? Check any option there, and try again Le Wednesday 05 March 2008 17:27:46 Mark David Dumlao, vous avez écrit : Hi guys I'm using GNOME on gentoo and I like the behavior where usb drives will pop up a nautilus window on plugin. I always expected this behavior on CDs as well, but for some reason, I only noticed today (after quite a while of using, since I haven't plugged in a CD for quite a while) that it doesn't work. So I've been investigating a bit on some things to check. 1) my cdrom mount point. the cdrom mount point is owned by root.cdrom and has rwx,rx,- permisions All relevant users are members of the root.cdrom group. however this seems to me completely irrelevant since as far as i recall, gnome-volume-manager should automatically just create a mount point for the cdrom. 2) my fstab entry I've tried without an fstab entry, and with. When I work with an entry, it looks like this: /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom udf,iso9660 users,noauto 0 0 again, this looks irrelevant to me since my alternate system (ubuntu) uses almost the same fstab with just root partitions switched around and the automount seems to work fine. 3) plugdev membership. all relevant users are members of plugdev. plugdev seems to properly create USB devices when things are pluggied in. 4) device file my hard disks are /dev/sda and /dev/sdb my cdrom is in /dev/hdb cdrom permissions give me [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls /dev/hdb -l brw-rw 1 root cdrom 3, 64 Mar 6 2008 /dev/hdb this is i think statically created by udev. 5) kernel and stuff [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -r 2.6.23-gentoo-r3 6) gnome-volume-manager -d no (runs gnome-volume-manager in the foreground) is completely silent. 7) The CDs themselves. They seem to work when I do a mount from the command line. Is there anything else I need to check? I want the cdrom to pop up correctly. On a tangent, i noticed that all my partitions are appearing in the nautilus sidebar bookmarks and also my desktop. I have quite a number of partitions, so this isn't the behavior I expect. When I click my Places menu, I notice that my partitions are listed in removable media. How do I take them out? -- thing. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with FONTS under X
Do you have xfs launche ? (/etc/init.d/xfs) And xorg.conf (/etc/X11) set properly Section Files #FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc/ #FontPath /usr/share/fonts/TTF/ #FontPath /usr/share/fonts/OTF ##FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1/ #FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/ #FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/ FontPath unix/:-1 EndSection and fs set properly (/etc/X11/fs/config) catalogue = /usr/share/fonts/75dpi, /usr/share/fonts/100dpi, /usr/share/fonts/misc, /usr/share/fonts/Type1, /usr/share/fonts/Speedo, /usr/share/fonts/CID, /usr/share/fonts/util, /usr/share/fonts/local, /usr/share/fonts/Speedo, /usr/share/fonts/truetype, /usr/share/fonts/TTF, /usr/share/fonts/cyrillic, /usr/share/fonts/freefont, /usr/share/fonts/sharefont, /usr/share/fonts/corefont, /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1, /usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives, /usr/share/fonts/ttf/western ??? Le Wednesday 05 March 2008 17:53:45 [EMAIL PROTECTED], vous avez écrit : Hmm... I've try revdep-rebuild after each 'emerge -vea world' when nothing happens, packages reemerges and nothing else. Everything was OK, no reemerges by revdep-rebuild. I've drop some C/CXXFLAGS like -fno-strict-aliasing and nothing happens. Also I recompile xorg-server couple times with xf86-input-keyboard, xf86-input-mouse, xf86-input-evdev, xf86-video-i810, libdrm and mesa - still no luck. I'm trying to change my xorg.conf but everything is OK with that config - chipset 965G works good, no Xorg.log errors, warnings etc. I give You also my make.conf file like this: ---[/etc/make.conf] CFLAGS=-O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -march=nocona -mtune=nocona CXXFLAGS=-O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -march=nocona -mtune=nocona CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu LINGUAS=pl USE=-ipv6 -xprint curl xinerama mdnsresponder-compat xcomposite accessibility qt4 nptl usb bluetooth pdf xine xscreensaver dri acpi laptop gif jpeg png unicode sse sse2 ssse3 mmx mmxext kde X alsa opengl glut # USE=opengl alsa X kde4 qt gtk mmx mmxext sse sse2 ssse3 glut xorg dri amrnb amrwb FEATURES=-sandbox ccache buildpkg MAKEOPTS=-j3 PKGDIR=/root/.packages ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~amd64 VIDEO_CARDS=i810 i965 intel --- Here is GLXINFO: name of display: :0.0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes server glx vendor string: SGI server glx version string: 1.2 server glx extensions: GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group client glx vendor string: SGI client glx version string: 1.4 client glx extensions: GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_OML_sync_control, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap GLX version: 1.2 GLX extensions: GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 965GM 4.1.3002 OpenGL version string: 1.4 Mesa 7.0.2 OpenGL extensions: GL_ARB_depth_texture, GL_ARB_fragment_program, GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multisample, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_point_parameters, GL_ARB_shadow, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_ARB_texture_compression, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two, GL_ARB_texture_rectangle, GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object, GL_ARB_vertex_program, GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra, GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate, GL_EXT_blend_func_separate, GL_EXT_blend_logic_op, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint, GL_EXT_cull_vertex, GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array, GL_EXT_convolution, GL_EXT_copy_texture, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements,
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with FONTS under X
I don't have xfs launcher (/etc/init.d/xfs) :( Mateusz M. Dnia 5 marca 2008 18:01 cypherstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał(a): Do you have xfs launche ? (/etc/init.d/xfs) And xorg.conf (/etc/X11) set properly Section Files #FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc/ #FontPath /usr/share/fonts/TTF/ #FontPath /usr/share/fonts/OTF ##FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1/ #FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/ #FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/ FontPath unix/:-1 EndSection and fs set properly (/etc/X11/fs/config) catalogue = /usr/share/fonts/75dpi, /usr/share/fonts/100dpi, /usr/share/fonts/misc, /usr/share/fonts/Type1, /usr/share/fonts/Speedo, /usr/share/fonts/CID, /usr/share/fonts/util, /usr/share/fonts/local, /usr/share/fonts/Speedo, /usr/share/fonts/truetype, /usr/share/fonts/TTF, /usr/share/fonts/cyrillic, /usr/share/fonts/freefont, /usr/share/fonts/sharefont, /usr/share/fonts/corefont, /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1, /usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives, /usr/share/fonts/ttf/western ??? Le Wednesday 05 March 2008 17:53:45 [EMAIL PROTECTED], vous avez écrit : Hmm... I've try revdep-rebuild after each 'emerge -vea world' when nothing happens, packages reemerges and nothing else. Everything was OK, no reemerges by revdep-rebuild. I've drop some C/CXXFLAGS like -fno-strict-aliasing and nothing happens. Also I recompile xorg-server couple times with xf86-input-keyboard, xf86-input-mouse, xf86-input-evdev, xf86-video-i810, libdrm and mesa - still no luck. I'm trying to change my xorg.conf but everything is OK with that config - chipset 965G works good, no Xorg.log errors, warnings etc. I give You also my make.conf file like this: ---[/etc/make.conf] CFLAGS=-O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -march=nocona -mtune=nocona CXXFLAGS=-O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -march=nocona -mtune=nocona CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu LINGUAS=pl USE=-ipv6 -xprint curl xinerama mdnsresponder-compat xcomposite accessibility qt4 nptl usb bluetooth pdf xine xscreensaver dri acpi laptop gif jpeg png unicode sse sse2 ssse3 mmx mmxext kde X alsa opengl glut # USE=opengl alsa X kde4 qt gtk mmx mmxext sse sse2 ssse3 glut xorg dri amrnb amrwb FEATURES=-sandbox ccache buildpkg MAKEOPTS=-j3 PKGDIR=/root/.packages ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~amd64 VIDEO_CARDS=i810 i965 intel --- Here is GLXINFO: name of display: :0.0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes server glx vendor string: SGI server glx version string: 1.2 server glx extensions: GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group client glx vendor string: SGI client glx version string: 1.4 client glx extensions: GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_OML_sync_control, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap GLX version: 1.2 GLX extensions: GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 965GM 4.1.3002 OpenGL version string: 1.4 Mesa 7.0.2 OpenGL extensions: GL_ARB_depth_texture, GL_ARB_fragment_program, GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multisample, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_point_parameters, GL_ARB_shadow, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_ARB_texture_compression, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two, GL_ARB_texture_rectangle, GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object, GL_ARB_vertex_program, GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra, GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate,
Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips
On 3/5/08, Andrew MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They do identify themselves, but they may not indicate 64 vs. 32 bit. Something one can always do is cat /proc/cpuinfo and then check the family and model at http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags . If it indicates 64-bit profile and Cflags for it, then it is a 64-bit capable processor. :-) -- Ricardo Saffi Marques Laboratório de Administração e Segurança de Sistemas (LAS/IC) Universidade Estadual de Campinas (UNICAMP) Cell: +55 (19) 8128-0435 Skype: ricardo_saffi_marques Website: http://www.rsaffi.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome CD automount fails without error
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:43 AM, cypherstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you go on Desktop / Preferences / Removable Drives and Media ??? Check any option there, and try again under removable storage, (checked) mount removable drives when hot-plugged (checked) mount removable media when inserted (checked) browse removeable media when inserted notchecked autorun programs on new drives and media notchecked autoopen files on new drives and media under blank CD and DVD discs notchecked burn a CD or DVD when a blank disc is inserted seems just about right to me, but still, no joy. -- thing.
Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips
On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote: Here is the output of my cpuinfo, I'll point out where it will mean 64bit. For the sake of this demonstration, I have only pasted one (1) CPU. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family: 15 model : 75 model name: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ -- Here will be your first indication. 64 bit processors, weather they are SPARC, AMD or intel, must identify themselves clearly in the model name field. stepping : 2 cpu MHz : 1000.000 -- forgive this, my cpu's are idle at the moment and speedstep droped me down for the moment. cache size: 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 2 -- If you are a multi-core CPU, this will tell you how many cores per processor. All cores are identical, so if you have a 64-bit Dual/Quad-Core CPU, then all cores are 64bit. fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp: yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow rep_good pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy -- you can look for flags that may give away 64bit, such as lahf_lm, lm and nx. bogomips : 2010.67 TLB size : 1024 4K pages clflush size : 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc I am a bit confused now. I always thought my CPU was 32bit. Here are the relevant two lines from my /proc/cpuinfo: model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc pebs bts sync_rdtsc pni monitor ds_cpl cid cx16 xtpr lahf_lm So the model name does not indicate anything 64bit while the flags contain lm, nx and lahf_lm. What gives? Uwe -- Informal Linux Group Namibia: http://www.linux.org.na/ SysEx (Pty) Ltd.: http://www.SysEx.com.na/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips
On 3/5/08, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a bit confused now. I always thought my CPU was 32bit. Here are the relevant two lines from my /proc/cpuinfo: So the model name does not indicate anything 64bit while the flags contain lm, nx and lahf_lm. Like I said, take the family and model and check Gentoo Safe Cflags website. -- Ricardo Saffi Marques Laboratório de Administração e Segurança de Sistemas (LAS/IC) Universidade Estadual de Campinas (UNICAMP) Cell: +55 (19) 8128-0435 Skype: ricardo_saffi_marques Website: http://www.rsaffi.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome CD automount fails without error
On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Mark David Dumlao wrote: Hi guys I'm using GNOME on gentoo and I like the behavior where usb drives will pop up a nautilus window on plugin. I always expected this behavior on CDs as well, but for some reason, I only noticed today (after quite a while of using, since I haven't plugged in a CD for quite a while) that it doesn't work. I believe that such things are detected by hal and the actual mount is done by gnome-volume-manager which then launches nautilus. /etc/fstab is not involved at all in this. It seems to be that Gnome at least wants you to use fstab for permanent mounts only, and bits of Gnome for everything else -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips
On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Stratos Psomadakis wrote: O/H cypherstrong έγραψε: another way to test is to run a livecd in amd64 mode on new intel chips if it doesn't work, try the ia64 version if it doesn't work ... your intel is a 32 bits version :) no need for the ia64... it's for intel's itanium cpus... ia64 is not compatible with x86... if he had an itanium machine, he would definitely know it... More like the accountant would definitely know it. I might still have a lingering doubt :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips
On Wednesday 05 March 2008, cypherstrong wrote: Of course :) the test for amd64 could be fast with a livecd That might suit someone who's sitting with a new and unknown box on the desk in front of them. I usually have to discover this for machines that are in some unknown location and to which I only have ssh access. Rebooting is most certainly not an option, even if i could get a CD into them. If I do that, the SLA kicks in and that will bankrupt the company... ... or with cpuinfo and good knowledge of flags The combination of what flags does what and which model number is which actual cpu product is much much more complex than I ever thought :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] rebuild /var/db/pkg?
I've deleted almost all entries in /var/db/pkg. Now portage wants to reinstall a lot of packages which are already on my system. Does anyone know a way to rebuild this database without actually recompile all the packages? Thanks Matthias -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stratos Psomadakis wrote: | O/H cypherstrong έγραψε: | another way to test is to run a livecd in amd64 mode on new intel chips | if it doesn't work, try the ia64 version | | if it doesn't work ... your intel is a 32 bits version :) | | no need for the ia64... | it's for intel's itanium cpus... | ia64 is not compatible with x86... | | if he had an itanium machine, he would definitely know it... | indeed ... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHztg78hUIAnGfls4RApxNAJ9Z2g0kBxZ7SZk4s7rhVKdBWxOSzgCgguz8 lbSGfmbmxDQhK8OLylVy/HE= =eMlf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 15:23:55 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Could that same kind soul please repost the info? And if possible the same for AMD? Run lshw and look at the width value for the CPU. -- Neil Bothwick If all the world is a stage, where is the audience sitting? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips
On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 15:23:55 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Could that same kind soul please repost the info? And if possible the same for AMD? Run lshw and look at the width value for the CPU. Aaaahhh. That has to be the most useful app I've emerged in at least 2 months :-) Very very useful, thanks Neil -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips
from what you pasted, you have a 32bit cpu. But you have a flag I do as well, and that is 'ht'. Hyper-Threading is a whole different beast I know very little about, it's more of an Intel thing for there first generation dual-core cpu's. Uwe Thiem wrote: On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote: Here is the output of my cpuinfo, I'll point out where it will mean 64bit. For the sake of this demonstration, I have only pasted one (1) CPU. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 15 model : 75 model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ -- Here will be your first indication. 64 bit processors, weather they are SPARC, AMD or intel, must identify themselves clearly in the model name field. stepping: 2 cpu MHz : 1000.000 -- forgive this, my cpu's are idle at the moment and speedstep droped me down for the moment. cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 2 -- If you are a multi-core CPU, this will tell you how many cores per processor. All cores are identical, so if you have a 64-bit Dual/Quad-Core CPU, then all cores are 64bit. fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow rep_good pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy -- you can look for flags that may give away 64bit, such as lahf_lm, lm and nx. bogomips: 2010.67 TLB size: 1024 4K pages clflush size: 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc I am a bit confused now. I always thought my CPU was 32bit. Here are the relevant two lines from my /proc/cpuinfo: model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc pebs bts sync_rdtsc pni monitor ds_cpl cid cx16 xtpr lahf_lm So the model name does not indicate anything 64bit while the flags contain lm, nx and lahf_lm. What gives? Uwe -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips
On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote: Here is the output of my cpuinfo, I'll point out where it will mean 64bit. For the sake of this demonstration, I have only pasted one (1) CPU. model name: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ -- Here will be your first indication. 64 bit processors, weather they are SPARC, AMD or intel, must identify themselves clearly in the model name field. In my case must equates to should. but doesn't The box on my desk identifies the cpu as Pentium4. But it's running 64 bit SLES, so something got omitted on the chip flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow rep_good pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy -- you can look for flags that may give away 64bit, such as lahf_lm, lm and nx. Is there a list somewhere of which flags are definitely 64 bit capabilities only, and which might be found on 32 bit chips? It would not surprise me if a manufacturer announced they had implemented ssse3 on 32 bit silicon for example address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual How about this? Current amd64 implements 48 bit addressing, how wide is it for 32 bit? OTOH my Core2 Duo notebook does not have this field at all For reference, this is a good read talking about 64 Bit processors and how to identify them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64 I see it's vastly more complex than I ever imagined. Thanks for the link though, learned a lot! -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] The future of Gentoo
Hello, i have heard several rumors of the future of Gentoo being uncertain (Gentoo will dissapear, support will stop, etc...). I wanted to ask you if heard such rumors and why do you think these rumors go around. All this begun i found out there would be a debate in the place i work to decide wich distro will be used on a new server... Debian or Gentoo, of course i stood up for Gentoo B-) ¡Saludos! Rafael
Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips
On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote: from what you pasted, you have a 32bit cpu. But you have a flag I do as well, and that is 'ht'. Hyper-Threading is a whole different beast I know very little about, it's more of an Intel thing for there first generation dual-core cpu's. HT is an abomination that should not be suffered to live. It's Intel's attempt to implement application level threading in silicon and it simply does not work in practice. I've yet to benchmark any reasonably complex app that runs better with hyper-threading enabled. In fact when I still worked support at a certain database vendor we simply refused to support any of our apps running on machines where HT was enabled. Note that it wasn't you should not do this, it was go away and phone back when you have rebooted with sane kernel options :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] The future of Gentoo
On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Rafael Barrera Oro wrote: Hello, i have heard several rumors of the future of Gentoo being uncertain (Gentoo will dissapear, support will stop, etc...). I wanted to ask you if heard such rumors and why do you think these rumors go around. All this begun i found out there would be a debate in the place i work to decide wich distro will be used on a new server... Debian or Gentoo, of course i stood up for Gentoo B-) Please please please please PLEASE Let's all drop this thread right now. It flares up every few months and always goes the same way - becoming a flame war after post #3. Just a few weeks ago the last one finally died down. Gentoo is not dying. The definitive proof is that Netcraft has not confirmed it yet. If you don't get that joke then get yourself a SlashDot subscription :-) These rumours start the same way every other rumour the homo-sapiens has come up with starts - someone says something, someone else gets all riled up and retorts. Someone else accepts this as fact and repeats it without doing any research at all, and before you know it So please, think twice before hitting that reply button. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] The future of Gentoo
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 16:02:25 -0300, Rafael Barrera Oro wrote: Hello, i have heard several rumors of the future of Gentoo being uncertain (Gentoo will dissapear, support will stop, etc...). I wanted to ask you if heard such rumors Yes, from time to time, usually from people posting to this list to ask if they are true :) and why do you think these rumors go around. Some people have nothing better to do. -- Neil Bothwick Borg -- James Borg -- licensed to assimilate. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] The future of Gentoo
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 21:08:02 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: So please, think twice before hitting that reply button. Whoops, too late :) -- Neil Bothwick Remember that the Titanic was built by experts, and the Ark by a newbie signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] The future of Gentoo
On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 21:08:02 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: So please, think twice before hitting that reply button. Whoops, too late :) You have street cred. We'll forgive you. But only this time. Next time, we break your knees. Capiche? :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with FONTS under X
I've emerged that package (xfs) and still nothing happend :/ Mateusz M. Dnia 5 marca 2008 18:08 [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał(a): I don't have xfs launcher (/etc/init.d/xfs) :( Mateusz M. Dnia 5 marca 2008 18:01 cypherstrong napisał(a): Do you have xfs launche ? (/etc/init.d/xfs) And xorg.conf (/etc/X11) set properly Section Files #FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc/ #FontPath /usr/share/fonts/TTF/ #FontPath /usr/share/fonts/OTF ##FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1/ #FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/ #FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/ FontPath unix/:-1 EndSection and fs set properly (/etc/X11/fs/config) catalogue = /usr/share/fonts/75dpi, /usr/share/fonts/100dpi, /usr/share/fonts/misc, /usr/share/fonts/Type1, /usr/share/fonts/Speedo, /usr/share/fonts/CID, /usr/share/fonts/util, /usr/share/fonts/local, /usr/share/fonts/Speedo, /usr/share/fonts/truetype, /usr/share/fonts/TTF, /usr/share/fonts/cyrillic, /usr/share/fonts/freefont, /usr/share/fonts/sharefont, /usr/share/fonts/corefont, /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1, /usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives, /usr/share/fonts/ttf/western ??? Le Wednesday 05 March 2008 17:53:45 [EMAIL PROTECTED], vous avez écrit : Hmm... I've try revdep-rebuild after each 'emerge -vea world' when nothing happens, packages reemerges and nothing else. Everything was OK, no reemerges by revdep-rebuild. I've drop some C/CXXFLAGS like -fno-strict-aliasing and nothing happens. Also I recompile xorg-server couple times with xf86-input-keyboard, xf86-input-mouse, xf86-input-evdev, xf86-video-i810, libdrm and mesa - still no luck. I'm trying to change my xorg.conf but everything is OK with that config - chipset 965G works good, no Xorg.log errors, warnings etc. I give You also my make.conf file like this: ---[/etc/make.conf] CFLAGS=-O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -march=nocona -mtune=nocona CXXFLAGS=-O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -march=nocona -mtune=nocona CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu LINGUAS=pl USE=-ipv6 -xprint curl xinerama mdnsresponder-compat xcomposite accessibility qt4 nptl usb bluetooth pdf xine xscreensaver dri acpi laptop gif jpeg png unicode sse sse2 ssse3 mmx mmxext kde X alsa opengl glut # USE=opengl alsa X kde4 qt gtk mmx mmxext sse sse2 ssse3 glut xorg dri amrnb amrwb FEATURES=-sandbox ccache buildpkg MAKEOPTS=-j3 PKGDIR=/root/.packages ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~amd64 VIDEO_CARDS=i810 i965 intel --- Here is GLXINFO: name of display: :0.0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes server glx vendor string: SGI server glx version string: 1.2 server glx extensions: GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group client glx vendor string: SGI client glx version string: 1.4 client glx extensions: GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_OML_sync_control, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap GLX version: 1.2 GLX extensions: GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 965GM 4.1.3002 OpenGL version string: 1.4 Mesa 7.0.2 OpenGL extensions: GL_ARB_depth_texture, GL_ARB_fragment_program, GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multisample, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_point_parameters, GL_ARB_shadow, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_ARB_texture_compression, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two,
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with FONTS under X
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CFLAGS=-O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -march=nocona -mtune=nocona CXXFLAGS=-O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -march=nocona -mtune=nocona Recompile your entire system with -O2, and see if the problem persists. If it persists, show the full output of emerge --info. By the way, -march implies -mtune, so you can drop the latter. Here is GLXINFO: Why is glxinfo relevant? Are you trying to use this new-fangled compiz stuff? How about switching that off and see how it goes? And show us your xorg.conf. Why are you already using KDE-4 when it is still hard masked? You seem to be asking for trouble. Benno -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ghosting a Ext3 partition
Hi Mark, on Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 05:39:12PM +1300, you wrote: {Ghost functionality] I actually think that 'dump' will do what you want... provided you can choose a time when the machine is not busy (should be easy if it's your desktop!). You have to do 1 dump per filesystem, but many desktop installations only consist of / (+ maybe /boot) anyway. Also dump of a 80Gb system that only uses 5Gb will produce a 5Gb image Also it can do incremental an cumulative backups. Some friends of mine use Amanda to backup their (Redhat/Centos) servers, that may worth looking at too. Amanda is very versatile but it can be a bitch to configure and is IMHO only really worth it for larger installations with at least more than one machine and preferably a backup server. But it can also use dump(1) internally. I didn't really follow the thread but it seems dump has a problem with busy file systems? I used amanda with dump on several machines for a few years and never had any so it should be fine for a desktop. One method I used for getting the image size down (but which is no good on a live system) was to use dd if=/dev/zero of=dummy bs=1M to quicky write a file of zeroes that would fill up all free blocks, then dd the whole partition through gzip that would just compress away the free blocks. Works fine for install images but only when the disk is not mounted r/w during imaging. cheers, Matthias -- I prefer encrypted and signed messages. KeyID: FAC37665 Fingerprint: 8C16 3F0A A6FC DF0D 19B0 8DEF 48D9 1700 FAC3 7665 pgpBvicFEwTCR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] The future of Gentoo
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 16:02:25 -0300 Rafael Barrera Oro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, i have heard several rumors of the future of Gentoo being uncertain (Gentoo will dissapear, support will stop, etc...). I wanted to ask you if heard such rumors and why do you think these rumors go around. All this begun i found out there would be a debate in the place i work to decide wich distro will be used on a new server... Debian or Gentoo, of course i stood up for Gentoo B-) ¡Saludos! Rafael It's a symptom of being alive: people like to start gossips about when and how you are going to die. The problem is that we don't believe in tales about witches and premonition, do we? ;) Some people call it yellow press (though in my country it would be translated to pink press :P. This gets kind of boring, because every two or three days a similar thread arises in the forum or here. Once a year I answer this kind of topic (I usually just silently ignore them). Right now, gentoo is stronger than ever. Monthly newsletter works again, and they are better than ever. The legal issues with the foundation (about papers and bureaucracy) are all now solved and portage is maintained and updated everyday. I figure how a person that use gentoo can question these things... So I figure if any of the persons who open this kind of threads are really using Gentoo for anything else than installing it to be cooler. No offense intended. As I said, this just gets boring after 1000 posts telling the same. It kind of seems like spam to me. Saludos :) -- Jesús Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with FONTS under X
Well now... I've install Gentoo Linux couple times with O3 optimize flag and there is nothing with it. I can try but I don't think that makes this error. GLX is needed by me because OpenGL programming and UT2004 playing :);). Compose is available by KDE3 and 4.0 build inside by desktop effects. I install KDE4 because it compiles faster than KDE4 on my laptop and shows (because of cmake) progress of compilation ;)... like when you must shutdown laptop when work time is up and You need to go home ;)... Compiz-fussion I already use under old PC with NV FX5500 on board, but on Laptop I don't touch that - intel cards don't have much power as NV - even 965GM chip on board. Maybee I should remove all fonts and reinstall it?! Mateusz M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CFLAGS=-O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -march=nocona -mtune=nocona CXXFLAGS=-O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -march=nocona -mtune=nocona Recompile your entire system with -O2, and see if the problem persists. If it persists, show the full output of emerge --info. By the way, -march implies -mtune, so you can drop the latter. Here is GLXINFO: Why is glxinfo relevant? Are you trying to use this new-fangled compiz stuff? How about switching that off and see how it goes? And show us your xorg.conf. Why are you already using KDE-4 when it is still hard masked? You seem to be asking for trouble. Benno -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips
well said ... Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote: from what you pasted, you have a 32bit cpu. But you have a flag I do as well, and that is 'ht'. Hyper-Threading is a whole different beast I know very little about, it's more of an Intel thing for there first generation dual-core cpu's. HT is an abomination that should not be suffered to live. It's Intel's attempt to implement application level threading in silicon and it simply does not work in practice. I've yet to benchmark any reasonably complex app that runs better with hyper-threading enabled. In fact when I still worked support at a certain database vendor we simply refused to support any of our apps running on machines where HT was enabled. Note that it wasn't you should not do this, it was go away and phone back when you have rebooted with sane kernel options :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gentoo Brainstorm?
Hi, Have you seen ubuntu brainstorm? http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ What do you think? Personally I believe is a very good idea and may be worth copying. Regards -- Rodrigo Lazo (rlazo) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] firefox fonts
On Tuesday 04 March 2008, maxim wexler wrote: Hi group, Following a major upgrade I noticed that all my fonts had shrunk drastically. I was able to enlarge all of them, KDE, the desktop, consoles etc except the menu bar and drop down menus in firefox. I can increase the font size in the window no problem but not the menu bar and side bar. Nothing in customize toolbar about changing font size. Anybody know how to deal with this? If *all* your fonts changed in size the odds are that the Xorg DPI changed to a different value. Unless you know what it was you could experiment with -dpi value when you launch X or try xrandr. This of course means that you will need to revert all application level changes. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] The future of Gentoo
The problem is that we don't believe in tales about witches and premonition, do we? ;) I do, does that count? Some people call it yellow press (though in my country it would be translated to pink press :P. This gets kind of boring, because every two or three days a similar thread arises in the forum or here. Once a year I answer this kind of topic (I usually just silently ignore them). Bad press In general should just about do it. If in doubt, /. it first. If it's been /.'d, dig, if you can dig it. Something is afoot, and we all need to be paying attention :D Right now, gentoo is stronger than ever. Monthly newsletter works again, and they are better than ever. The legal issues with the foundation (about papers and bureaucracy) are all now solved and portage is maintained and updated everyday. I figure how a person that use gentoo can question these things... So I figure if any of the persons who open this kind of threads are really using Gentoo for anything else than installing it to be cooler. Gentoo is like a cult ... it can't easily be killed. Every generation has a mythology. Every millenium has a doomsday cult. Every legend gets the distortion knob wound up until the speaker melts. Archeologists at the University of Helsinki today uncovered what could be the earliest known writings from the Cult of Tux, a fanatical religious sect that flourished during the early Silicon Age, around the dawn of the third millenium AD... Gospel of Tux, Verse I No offense intended. As I said, this just gets boring after 1000 posts telling the same. It kind of seems like spam to me. It's dead, squashed, flattened, ya hear :D (very poor Capone imitation) Saludos :) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Looking for utility to send X low level events
I am back to my on-again, off-again task of trying to get firefox to print, this time I have thought of sending a running instance various X events to fake a URL, the print command, print file name, etc. I found a few old and crufty programs to record and playback macros, but they don't work well and haven't been updated in years. Does anyone know of any programs that manipulate X events on a low level? I figure it will need to either record and play back events, or let me describe them in an editable file. I don't know much about the low level X structure, but if there is some way to identify and choose event handlers (main window, popup window, menus, buttons) by name, that would be superb. I don't mind crufty programs as long as they at least work. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Looking for utility to send X low level events
On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 12:40:02PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of any programs that manipulate X events on a low level? I figure it will need to either record and play back events, or let me describe them in an editable file. I don't know much about the low level X structure, but if there is some way to identify and choose event handlers (main window, popup window, menus, buttons) by name, that would be superb. Have you thought about xautomation? [03:48 PM]wwong x11-misc $ emerge --search xautomation Searching... [ Results for search key : xautomation ] [ Applications found : 1 ] * x11-misc/xautomation Latest version available: 0.96 Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] Size of files: 71 kB Homepage: http://hoopajoo.net/projects/xautomation.html Description: Control X from command line and find things on screen License: GPL-2 W -- Willie W. Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 Fine Hall, Department of Mathematics, Princeton University, Princeton A mathematician's reputation rests on the number of bad proofs he has given. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with FONTS under X
On Wednesday 05 March 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well now... I've install Gentoo Linux couple times with O3 optimize flag and there is nothing with it. I can try but I don't think that makes this error. GLX is needed by me because OpenGL programming and UT2004 playing :);). Compose is available by KDE3 and 4.0 build inside by desktop effects. I install KDE4 because it compiles faster than KDE4 on my laptop and shows (because of cmake) progress of compilation ;)... like when you must shutdown laptop when work time is up and You need to go home ;)... Compiz-fussion I already use under old PC with NV FX5500 on board, but on Laptop I don't touch that - intel cards don't have much power as NV - even 965GM chip on board. Step 1 when debugging is to remove those things that have proven problematic in the past and retry. Do not assume this step, do it and check. If I could tell you the number of times I've had to discipilne people who thought they knew better on this point -O3 is known to cause deep changes in the compiled code compared to -O2, it's not an optimization here and there, the differences are quite substantial and can involve completely different code paths. If the source is not written with -O3 in mind, you can get odd bugs. KDE4 is unstable for a very good reason - it is not known to work always and stably. Compiz and composition in general is still a moving target, not always fully supported by the hardware or the drivers. I could give many more examples, but theperson you replied to seems to know what he's talking about. My advice is that you listen to him and start taking a methodical approach to solving your problem. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Looking for utility to send X low level events
On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 03:49:33PM -0500, Willie Wong wrote: Have you thought about xautomation? Hadn't heard of it. Looks promising from the description. I tried looking thru all the X11-*/* packages but there were way too many to check very well. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] rebuild /var/db/pkg?
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 19:11:52 +0100, Matthias Guede wrote: Does anyone know a way to rebuild this database without actually recompile all the packages? Restore from backup? Otherwise, it's probably less trouble to set PORTAGE_NICENESS to 19 and let emerge world run in the background. That way you'll know it has been done properly. -- Neil Bothwick I've been fishing with Salvador Dali, he used a dotted line and caught every other fish. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] The future of Gentoo
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 21:15:20 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Whoops, too late :) You have street cred. We'll forgive you. But only this time. Next time, we break your knees. Capiche? No thanks, it hurt enough the last time I broke them :( -- Neil Bothwick Virus detected, delete Windows? (Y/n). signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] firefox fonts
maxim wexler wrote: Following a major upgrade I noticed that all my fonts had shrunk drastically. I was able to enlarge all of them, KDE, the desktop, consoles etc except the menu bar and drop down menus in firefox. I can increase the font size in the window no problem but not the menu bar and side bar. Nothing in customize toolbar about changing font size. To change the fonts of firefox itself, you could use gtk-chtheme. But because all fonts changed, you may want to check that X has the right idea about the size of your display: xdpyinfo | grep -e milli -e dots If not, try setting something like DisplaySize 320 240 (with the correct sizes filled in) in Section Monitor in xorg.conf. Benno -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Looking for utility to send X low level events -- SOLVABLE
On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 12:40:02PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of any programs that manipulate X events on a low level? It looks like my google-fu was weak. There are lots of programs to do this, one way or the other, and now all I have to do is investigate them all. None look perfect, but some look good enough. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome CD automount fails without error
did you run hald and dbus ? did you add them on your rc profile ??? I think gnome use it to know if any drive is insert or not. Try to run it hald (I think they depends of dbus so ... but both need to be run) Did you use dbus and hald in your uses ? try this: USE=dbus hald emerge -DNuav world Somethink to recompile ? if yes add it permanantly to make.conf and do it and restart gnome and try again 2008/3/5, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Mark David Dumlao wrote: Hi guys I'm using GNOME on gentoo and I like the behavior where usb drives will pop up a nautilus window on plugin. I always expected this behavior on CDs as well, but for some reason, I only noticed today (after quite a while of using, since I haven't plugged in a CD for quite a while) that it doesn't work. I believe that such things are detected by hal and the actual mount is done by gnome-volume-manager which then launches nautilus. /etc/fstab is not involved at all in this. It seems to be that Gnome at least wants you to use fstab for permanent mounts only, and bits of Gnome for everything else -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with FONTS under X
Yeah, try to remove every thing special like glx, compiz and keep only 2d and default drivers don't run kde to check your font, shutdown kdm or gdm or *dm, type: X DISPLAY=:0 xterm do you have font ? xfs is something appear with USE=xfs for xorg-server I think this is a really good and easy way to use font for xorg, you just say to use xfs, and xfs find automatically all your fonts if it still don't work .. tell us 2008/3/5, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wednesday 05 March 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well now... I've install Gentoo Linux couple times with O3 optimize flag and there is nothing with it. I can try but I don't think that makes this error. GLX is needed by me because OpenGL programming and UT2004 playing :);). Compose is available by KDE3 and 4.0 build inside by desktop effects. I install KDE4 because it compiles faster than KDE4 on my laptop and shows (because of cmake) progress of compilation ;)... like when you must shutdown laptop when work time is up and You need to go home ;)... Compiz-fussion I already use under old PC with NV FX5500 on board, but on Laptop I don't touch that - intel cards don't have much power as NV - even 965GM chip on board. Step 1 when debugging is to remove those things that have proven problematic in the past and retry. Do not assume this step, do it and check. If I could tell you the number of times I've had to discipilne people who thought they knew better on this point -O3 is known to cause deep changes in the compiled code compared to -O2, it's not an optimization here and there, the differences are quite substantial and can involve completely different code paths. If the source is not written with -O3 in mind, you can get odd bugs. KDE4 is unstable for a very good reason - it is not known to work always and stably. Compiz and composition in general is still a moving target, not always fully supported by the hardware or the drivers. I could give many more examples, but theperson you replied to seems to know what he's talking about. My advice is that you listen to him and start taking a methodical approach to solving your problem. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] rebuild /var/db/pkg?
2008/3/5, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 19:11:52 +0100, Matthias Guede wrote: Does anyone know a way to rebuild this database without actually recompile all the packages? Restore from backup? Yes ... a backup would be nice now ;) Otherwise, it's probably less trouble to set PORTAGE_NICENESS to 19 and let emerge world run in the background. That way you'll know it has been done properly. That is what I'm currently doing after some unsuccessful tries to avoid the recompilation. So my notebook has to do some nightly work for my carelessness. Life's not fair. thanks for your help -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] The future of Gentoo
I figure how a person that use gentoo can question these things... So I figure if any of the persons who open this kind of threads are really using Gentoo for anything else than installing it to be cooler. No offense intended. As I said, this just gets boring after 1000 posts telling the same. It kind of seems like spam to me. Non taken, im still as uncool as i was before installing Gentoo, i do think though that if you consider it spam you are free to delete it or block my address. On the other hand i found your replies very encouraging, i am truly sorry if i bore someone to death but i just had to ask you guys. Now i am going to dedicate myself to my Gentoo for a while since a couple of thugs broke into my house and smashed both my knees yelling something about some boring questions and wasting people's time... so i have lots of free time now! I'll try to inform myself better before opening a thread in the future Thanks and sorry Rafael
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Digest of gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org issue 1424 (76378-76427)
On Wed, 2008-03-05 at 07:29 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:38:40 -0600, Dale wrote: Someone sent this person a message about this the other day. Is there no way to unsubscribe them until they get this sorted out so we don't get a truly useless message? File a bug report. I sent a message to gentoo-user+owner but nothing happened yet. Maybe Gentoo isn't ISO9001 certified, so they didn't get it. *sigh* -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Windows NT Performance, on the next In Search Of -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] TeXlive with non-English hyphenation?
On Wed, 2008-03-05 at 11:34 +0100, Ralf Stephan wrote: Hello, Does someone use TeXlive and has encountered and solved non-English hyphenation problems? I have tried both babel.sty with the german/germanb options and german.sty from the package texlive-langgerman, always giving the command \selectlanguage{german} I don't use texlive, but have you set linguas_de? sorry I can't be more help! -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Only someone with nothing to be sorry for smiles back at the rear of an elephant. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] rebuild /var/db/pkg?
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 23:20:31 +0100, Matthias Guede wrote: Otherwise, it's probably less trouble to set PORTAGE_NICENESS to 19 and let emerge world run in the background. That way you'll know it has been done properly. That is what I'm currently doing after some unsuccessful tries to avoid the recompilation. So my notebook has to do some nightly work for my carelessness. Life's not fair. Which is a good thing. Think how much worse it would be if you actually deserved all the bad things that happen to you. In this case, consider it a learning experience. anyway, it's no real hardship to run emerge world, it's not as if you have to recompile each individual program manually. -- Neil Bothwick Electric chairs are period furniture: they end a sentence signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] The future of Gentoo
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 19:30:22 -0300 Rafael Barrera Oro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I figure how a person that use gentoo can question these things... So I figure if any of the persons who open this kind of threads are really using Gentoo for anything else than installing it to be cooler. No offense intended. As I said, this just gets boring after 1000 posts telling the same. It kind of seems like spam to me. Non taken, im still as uncool as i was before installing Gentoo, i do think though that if you consider it spam you are free to delete it or block my address. On the other hand i found your replies very encouraging, i am truly sorry if i bore someone to death but i just had to ask you guys. No problem. It's just me :P My problem with these kind of questions if that I sometimes go mad when I see them continuously arising every few days over and over during 4 or 5 years (you see, the longest dead ever). Be sure that I will not mark your mail address to be sent to the waste bin or something like that just because of this. I only wanted to translate how a person that sees this regularly feels from time to time. As I say, I usually don't get into these threads. But, hey, we all are human... sometimes :P I'll try to inform myself better before opening a thread in the future That's the only thing my post wanted to achieve. Regards :) -- Jesús Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Digest of gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org issue 1425 (76428-76477)
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[gentoo-user] Make krusader default file manager
hello there i'm trying to make krusader my default file manager...so when i'm double-clicking on a directory it should be opened by Krusader...i try to set it up correctly in kcontrol-kde components-file associations-inode-directory and choose Krusader in the application preference box but when i double-click on a folder it pops up an error message saying kdeinit could not launch '/usr/bin/krusader'...could someone tell me how to make krusader the default file manager?? thanks...
Re: [gentoo-user] Make krusader default file manager
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Did you restart your WM? Danis Petkakis wrote: | hello there i'm trying to make krusader my default file manager...so | when i'm double-clicking on a directory it should be opened by | Krusader...i try to set it up correctly in kcontrol-kde | components-file associations-inode-directory and choose Krusader in | the application preference box but when i double-click on a folder it | pops up an error message saying kdeinit could not launch | '/usr/bin/krusader'...could someone tell me how to make krusader the | default file manager?? thanks... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD4DBQFHz16j8hUIAnGfls4RAkINAJ9WsoupPSF5jPvD8UiP2CDSbKQJ/wCYuQ97 8BPkhA0Uy/jsWBMcq2Vb9Q== =KRH3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] date and gentoo running under vmplayer
Hi all - it's been awhile This past week I've set up Gentoo running in a VM built by http://www.easyvmx.com/ under a XP host. Installation and configuration went fine. I normally leave the VM running when I walk away from the machine, but when I return, time is way off. Shutting down Gentoo the VM rebooting solvles the problem, as vmplayer must initially get the date and time from the host, but it sure doesn't keep it right after that. I tried openntpd, but it kept setting the time further and further off. I live in Fort Collins, Co and my locatime is set correctly (America/Denver). This is my 1st time playing with VM's. Is this common? Is there any way around it? I'm not really sure why openntpd didn't work. Any and all help appreciated. Thanks, festus -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] date and gentoo running under vmplayer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 you need to make sure ntp-client and ntpd (from openntpd) have been started, and you have a valid time server. Below I have included everything I hope will help you - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ emerge -vp openntpd These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] net-misc/openntpd-3.9_p1-r1 USE=ssl (-selinux) 150 kB Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 150 kB [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /etc/conf.d/ntpd # /etc/conf.d/ntpd: config file for openntpd's ntpd NTPD_HOME=/var/empty # See ntpd(8) man page ... some popular options: # -s Set the time immediately at startup NTPD_OPTS= [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /etc/conf.d/ntp-client # /etc/conf.d/ntp-client # Command to run to set the clock initially # Most people should just leave this line alone ... # however, if you know what you're doing, and you # want to use ntpd to set the clock, change this to 'ntpd' NTPCLIENT_CMD=ntpdate # Options to pass to the above command # This default setting should work fine but you should # change the default 'pool.ntp.org' to something closer # to your machine. See http://www.pool.ntp.org/ or # try running `netselect -s 3 pool.ntp.org`. NTPCLIENT_OPTS=-s -b -u pool.ntp.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /etc/ntp ntp.conf ntp.conf~ ntpd.conf [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /etc/ntpd.conf # $OpenBSD: ntpd.conf,v 1.7 2004/07/20 17:38:35 henning Exp $ # sample ntpd configuration file, see ntpd.conf(5) # Addresses to listen on (ntpd does not listen by default) #listen on * #listen on 127.0.0.1 #listen on ::1 # sync to a single server #server ntp.example.org # use a random selection of 8 public stratum 2 servers # see http://twiki.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/NTPPoolServers servers pool.ntp.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /etc/ntp.conf # NOTES: # - you should only have to update the server line below # - if you start getting lines like 'restrict' and 'fudge' #and you didnt add them, AND you run dhcpcd on your #network interfaces, be sure to add '-Y -N' to the #dhcpcd_ethX variables in /etc/conf.d/net # Name of the servers ntpd should sync with # Please respect the access policy as stated by the responsible person. #server ntp.example.tld iburst server pool.ntp.org netselect -s 3 pool.ntp.org ## # A list of available servers can be found here: # http://www.pool.ntp.org/ # http://www.pool.ntp.org/#use # A good way to get servers for your machine is: # netselect -s 3 pool.ntp.org ## # you should not need to modify the following paths driftfile /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift #server ntplocal.example.com prefer #server timeserver.example.org # Warning: Using default NTP settings will leave your NTP # server accessible to all hosts on the Internet. # If you want to deny all machines (including your own) # from accessing the NTP server, uncomment: #restrict default ignore # To deny other machines from changing the # configuration but allow localhost: restrict default nomodify nopeer restrict 127.0.0.1 # To allow machines within your network to synchronize # their clocks with your server, but ensure they are # not allowed to configure the server or used as peers # to synchronize against, uncomment this line. # restrict 192.168.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0 nomodify nopeer notrap [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ - - EOF John J. Foster wrote: | Hi all - it's been awhile | | This past week I've set up Gentoo running in a VM built by | http://www.easyvmx.com/ under a XP host. Installation and configuration | went fine. I normally leave the VM running when I walk away from the | machine, but when I return, time is way off. Shutting down Gentoo the | VM rebooting solvles the problem, as vmplayer must initially get the | date and time from the host, but it sure doesn't keep it right after | that. I tried openntpd, but it kept setting the time further and further | off. I live in Fort Collins, Co and my locatime is set correctly | (America/Denver). This is my 1st time playing with VM's. Is this common? | Is there any way around it? I'm not really sure why openntpd didn't | work. | | Any and all help appreciated. | | Thanks, | festus -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHz2xd8hUIAnGfls4RAhofAKCKc3nbVbdY7Pu8m7UNu192PuLJ4QCeLpCz suznhio3Jt+UMeQSE4zOwL4= =/XSs -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] date and gentoo running under vmplayer
Hi, What could also help in this is installing vmware-workstation-tools[1] in your Gentoo instance. Not directly related to your specific problem, but I've been running RHEL 5 x86_64 in a VM on a CentOS 5 i386 host. The time in RHEL flows slowly, and soon the clock is way behind. I have tried setting up ntpd to keep the time in sync with the host machine, but it crashed silently right away. To work around this, I have a cron job that sets the correct time with the ntpdate command every 2 minutes. It's good enough for my needs. [1] http://gentoo-portage.com/app-emulation/vmware-workstation-tools Good luck! Mike On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Chris Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 you need to make sure ntp-client and ntpd (from openntpd) have been started, and you have a valid time server. Below I have included everything I hope will help you - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ emerge -vp openntpd These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] net-misc/openntpd-3.9_p1-r1 USE=ssl (-selinux) 150 kB Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 150 kB [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /etc/conf.d/ntpd # /etc/conf.d/ntpd: config file for openntpd's ntpd NTPD_HOME=/var/empty # See ntpd(8) man page ... some popular options: # -s Set the time immediately at startup NTPD_OPTS= [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /etc/conf.d/ntp-client # /etc/conf.d/ntp-client # Command to run to set the clock initially # Most people should just leave this line alone ... # however, if you know what you're doing, and you # want to use ntpd to set the clock, change this to 'ntpd' NTPCLIENT_CMD=ntpdate # Options to pass to the above command # This default setting should work fine but you should # change the default 'pool.ntp.org' to something closer # to your machine. See http://www.pool.ntp.org/ or # try running `netselect -s 3 pool.ntp.org`. NTPCLIENT_OPTS=-s -b -u pool.ntp.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /etc/ntp ntp.conf ntp.conf~ ntpd.conf [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /etc/ntpd.conf # $OpenBSD: ntpd.conf,v 1.7 2004/07/20 17:38:35 henning Exp $ # sample ntpd configuration file, see ntpd.conf(5) # Addresses to listen on (ntpd does not listen by default) #listen on * #listen on 127.0.0.1 #listen on ::1 # sync to a single server #server ntp.example.org # use a random selection of 8 public stratum 2 servers # see http://twiki.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/NTPPoolServers servers pool.ntp.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /etc/ntp.conf # NOTES: # - you should only have to update the server line below # - if you start getting lines like 'restrict' and 'fudge' #and you didnt add them, AND you run dhcpcd on your #network interfaces, be sure to add '-Y -N' to the #dhcpcd_ethX variables in /etc/conf.d/net # Name of the servers ntpd should sync with # Please respect the access policy as stated by the responsible person. #server ntp.example.tld iburst server pool.ntp.org netselect -s 3 pool.ntp.org ## # A list of available servers can be found here: # http://www.pool.ntp.org/ # http://www.pool.ntp.org/#use # A good way to get servers for your machine is: # netselect -s 3 pool.ntp.org ## # you should not need to modify the following paths driftfile /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift #server ntplocal.example.com prefer #server timeserver.example.org # Warning: Using default NTP settings will leave your NTP # server accessible to all hosts on the Internet. # If you want to deny all machines (including your own) # from accessing the NTP server, uncomment: #restrict default ignore # To deny other machines from changing the # configuration but allow localhost: restrict default nomodify nopeer restrict 127.0.0.1 # To allow machines within your network to synchronize # their clocks with your server, but ensure they are # not allowed to configure the server or used as peers # to synchronize against, uncomment this line. # restrict 192.168.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0 nomodify nopeer notrap [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ - - EOF John J. Foster wrote: | Hi all - it's been awhile | | This past week I've set up Gentoo running in a VM built by | http://www.easyvmx.com/ under a XP host. Installation and configuration | went fine. I normally leave the VM running when I walk away from the | machine, but when I return, time is way off. Shutting down Gentoo the | VM rebooting solvles the problem, as vmplayer must initially get the | date and time from the host, but it sure doesn't keep it right after | that. I tried openntpd, but it kept setting the time further and further | off. I live in Fort Collins, Co and my locatime is set correctly | (America/Denver). This is my 1st time playing with VM's. Is this common? | Is there any way
Re: [gentoo-user] The future of Gentoo
Jesús Guerrero wrote: My problem with these kind of questions if that I sometimes go mad when I see them continuously arising every few days over and over during 4 or 5 years (you see, the longest dead ever). Oh no - I think OS/2 holds the record for that - and it's still alive and kicking. ;) Be lucky, Neil -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Brainstorm?
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Rodrigo Lazo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Have you seen ubuntu brainstorm? http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ What do you think? Personally I believe is a very good idea and may be worth copying. Regards -- Rodrigo Lazo (rlazo) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list Wow. I really like the idea. Maybe a Summer of Code project? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list