Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of missing gentoo-user mail
Andrew Frink wrote: On 7/27/06, Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hiya, For the last 2 years I have been archiving structurally all my gentoo-user mails I have received into MySQL. In the last few months I have noticed that I have been receiving more and more broken threads (In-Reply-To and References), indicating missing mails from those threads. At present I use gmail to receive the mail which is then downloaded via fetchmail to my imap server. Recently I added the gmane.linux.gentoo.user newsgroup to my thunderbird to make some comparisons between that I am receiving and what they are receiving. To my surprise I am missing between 1 and 4 messages per thread (of more than let's say 10 messages). It is not a threading problem, and not a pop3 problem ~ I can confirm that what I have in gmail is what I have locally. To give some examples of totals in some larger threads over the last couple of days: Subject Local gmane Kde menu 11 12 MythTV vs. Gentoo VDR 9 10 PORTAGE_ELOG error24 28 strange [ file27 31 can't install ati-drivers 13 16 How packages becomes stable? 8 9 Unable to mount root fs on uknown - block (0,0) 14 17 I have confirmed that that I have locally is exactly what I have in gmail, so the problem is not local, and they are not caught anywhere in gmail's spam filters. What I am trying to work out if if it's just me having an issue with gmail (which I will confront the gmail team there about), or if the gentoo-user mailing server is skipping addresses or having issues sending. Tracing mail logs over a few days to check threads can be a painfully annoying job ;-) I am subscribed to other lists too which I seem to be having absolutely no problems with, although they are somewhat less active than the gentoo-user one. Are any of you (gmail or not) having the same problem? What is the correct way to go about locating and confronting this issue? Thanks for any advise. Ralph -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEyFGzCt0ZF9kLPvYRAjlMAJ9INepH8Zz4ceFCf+jXKmFDu7onkQCcC5n4 TuT8NnAi1cZWRU+6PIdibFk= =s5g+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list hello, i hear that it's a problem with gmail, it would seem that if you sent the mail to a thread it doesn't show up in your inbox.. as it already has a copy and isn't new mail This seems not the problem in this case as I'm using GMail and am receiving all the mail's to the mailing list. The feature of GMail whereby the mail sent by the person is treated as duplicate when received through list is not guilty of this problem, as Ralf has not sent any replies to the above mentioned thread's (did not had the time to check every thread, but checked two). This seems like a problem which is affecting some subscribers and not all. This is odd. Hope this gets resolved soon. Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgpxNejYXGOzM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of missing gentoo-user mail
Jeremy Olexa wrote: [...] I filed an infra bug report here: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141904 I couldn't find this thread on gmane. Anyone got a link to the thread? Or could tell me how many posts there have been before mine? I would like to contribute to the bug report if I am seeing the problem too. You can find the link in the bug report quoted above. Anyway the the link to this thread on gmane is : http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/14/focus=14 There have been 14 posts to this thread before you (including the starting thread). This count is according to GMane as well as according to my mail client. Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgpEvHJEPqnyr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] nv vs nvidia (xorg-7*)
James wrote: (...) My first card: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2) Legacy or current? It's not clear to me which category this or any other nvidia cards fall into. Is there a table I can look up to see which nvidia cards belong to which driver. For your card you can use the current drivers.. You can have a look at this : http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_18897.html It contains all the models supported by the latest nvidia drivers. In xorg.conf do I use do 'nv' or 'nvidia' or 'nvidia-legacy' Driver nv Driver nvidia Driver nvidia-legacy With my hardware, which current nvidia driver (legacy) would I emerge to match my card? You can use nvidia driver in your xorg.conf. Driver nvidia On another gentoo workstation It has this card: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1) Which Driver would I choose for this nvidia card? This card too will work with the latest nvidia-drivers. One more thing James, there is no need to do an emerge nvidia-kernel and emerge nvidia-glx anymore.. There is a new unified ebuild x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers. Just do a emerge x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers. I suggest you do $ echo x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers ~x86 /etc/portage/package.keywords as the newest drivers have not yet made into the stable branch.. Hope this helps, Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgp3FywcisRL6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Any way to run files through procmail?
Jorge Almeida wrote: On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, Jamie wrote: The emails are sitting in individual files in a Maildir on the machine that should have processed them. Is there any way to run procmail over all of the messages in the Maildir so I don't have to manually forward each message back to myself so that procmail will process them when the come back in. procmail [-m /path/to/your/procmailrc] /path/to/message This will deliver the message contained in the individual file /path/to/message. You'll have to iterate over all such files. Will this work for mbox format as well? Thanks in advance, Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) Check Out : http://gentooisbest.blogspot.com pgpk2VfmGCuIW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FW: [gentoo-user] livecd does not boot after gentoo install
de Almeida, Valmor F. wrote: [...] After using a livecd to make a successful gentoo install, I tried to boot from the livecd again but in every attempt the bios keep booting grub from the hard drive. If I remove the hard drive from the list of boot devices in the bios and force it to boot from the CD rom I get the message: OS not found; I am sure the livecd is in the CD rom but apparently it is not recognized. What would be the reason for this behavior? Check your BIOS and verify that the first boot device is indeed CD-ROM. If still you can't boot then you need to check the CD-ROM medium as it might have become corrupt. Re-burn the CD and try booting. [...] Hope this helps, Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) Check Out : http://gentooisbest.blogspot.com pgpmEOAhKyyDl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Trouble updating apmd (wrong gcc version?)
Allan Gottlieb wrote: My normal emerge --tree --ask --verbose --newuse --update --deep world produced the following [snip] libtool --quiet --mode=compile gcc -c -O -g -Wall -pipe -I. -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/src/linux-2.2/include -I /usr/src/linux-2.0/include -DVERSION=\3.2.1\ -DDEFAULT_PROXY_NAME=\/etc/apmd_proxy\ apmsleep.c libtool --quiet --mode=link gcc -o libapm.la apmlib.lo -rpath /usr/lib -version-info 1:0 i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++: /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.4/../../../crti.o: No such file or directory i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++: /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.4/crtbeginS.o: No such file or directory i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++: /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.4/crtendS.o: No such file or directory i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++: /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.4/../../../crtn.o: No such file or directory make: *** [libapm.la] Error 1 make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs apmsleep.c:60: warning: 'rcsid' defined but not used rm apm.o ajglap ~ # ls /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu 3.4.5 ajglap ~ # Try this # gcc-config i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5 # source /etc/profile Hope that helps Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) Check Out : http://gentooisbest.blogspot.com pgpDOJFoyJMEE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] multiple emerge --sync on the same day?
de Almeida, Valmor F. wrote: [...] I am planning to get a few machines going on a manual installation while I troubleshoot the livecd problem. These machines are behind a router and there will be multiple emerge --sync requests coming from the same IP. Is this a problem? I read somewhere that the same machine should not be doing more than one emerge --sync per day. Use different rsync mirrors for different PCs. A better solution is found in this HOW-TO http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Local_Rsync_Mirror Hope That Helps, Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) Check Out : http://gentooisbest.blogspot.com pgp8YArE9ibVu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] pppoe-status returns the wrong infomation! might be a bug..
fei huang wrote: I've configued the rp-pppoe following the updated instruction in Gentoo Handbook, and my ADSL modem can be brought up at start up , [...] You can altogether do away with rp-pppoe, if you look in /etc/conf.d/net.example, you'll find the new confug syntax for bringing the ADSL connection up. It's like this : config_ppp0=( ppp ) link_ppp0=eth0 plugins_ppp0=( pppoe ) username_ppp0='username' password_ppp0='password' pppd_ppp0=( noauth updetach defaultroute usepeerdns holdoff 0 ) You don't need rp-pppoe package anymore to use your ADSL connection. however, the pppoe-status always returns message says that the PID file could not be found (which is definity wrong!). my network was working of course.. so. I found this issue was caused by the $PIDFILE which is defined in the /etc/ppp/pppoe.conf and read by pppoe-status script. but the comment right above that line says: # NB: Gentoo overrides PIDFILE when pppoe-start is run from the # networking scripts. This setting has no effect in that case. # below is the original definition #PIDFILE=/var/run/$CF_BASE-pppoe.pid # Still wrong after I comment out the line above, so I have to change like this: PIDFILE=/var/run/rp-pppoe-eth0.pid It works now though, I wonder if this is a small bug, i.e. the $PIDFILE has never been defined except in the pppoe.conf, and unfortunately, the only definition is not correct.. Strange!! I had never come across this issue when I was using rp-pppoe for my ADSL connection. Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) Check Out : http://gentooisbest.blogspot.com pgpNaEb674XJm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] pppoe-status returns the wrong infomation! might be a bug..
Mrugesh Karnik wrote: Umm, the instructions in the Handbook point to the method where Gentoo uses the kernel based pppoe rather than rp-pppoe. So rp-pppoe is never active I think. I could be wrong. I think you are wrong. The instructions in the handbook point to rp-pppoe based setup not kernel mode pppoe. Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) Check Out : http://gentooisbest.blogspot.com pgpehkG8hRyu9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo ADSL wireless router (3 questions)
Grant wrote:
I set up my spare Gentoo box up as a wireless router for my new
Verizon ADSL connection by following the instructions here:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml
My setup is a little different though because I'm using a madwifi card
to provide wireless access. Things are working really well, but I've
got a couple questions I'm hoping someone can help with.
1. I can't actually get:
config_eth0=adsl
to work. It always says: TIMED OUT. I'm using:
config_eth0=dhcp
instead which times out half the time and half the time gets me the IP
192.168.1.47 and provides connection to the Internet. Isn't that
weird? Is it even checking my username/password that's in the
ppp/pppoe config files?
Are you sure that you got a ADSL Modem or is it a Router. I'm sure they
have given you some instructions as to how to connect using Windows
machine. Can you quote them, as to how to set up the network in windows
machine. It'll clear a great deal of things. Also since the config_eth0
is dhcp I seriously doubt you got a Plain DSL Modem, I think they have
provided you a Router.
2. I followed the instructions at the above link to set up iptables. When I
try to ssh into the router
from another machine on the network,
I get Connection refused. I'm guessing it's from the firewall. Is
there a good utility that will allow me to manage the firewall?
If you got this line,
iptables -A INPUT -p TCP --dport ssh -i ${WAN} -j ACCEPT
as suggested by the above link while setting up the firewall, then there
is no problem from the firewall. Are you sure you've started the ssh
server on your router? To start the ssh server, type this:
/etc/init.d/sshd start
To start the ssh server everytime you boot the system, add ssh server to
default run level, like this,
rc-update add ssh default
Hope this should make the ssh server accessible from the systems in your
network.
3. (snip)
Sorry I got no idea about this stuff..
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Re: [gentoo-user] Glibc-2.4 and Gcc-4.0.3??
Jerry McBride wrote: Anyone here running a ~x86 box and have the latest glibc and a 4.0.3 gcc running on it? I used to run gcc-4.0.3 and latest glibc (don't remember the version number) some time ago.. But now running gcc-4.1.0 and glibc-2.4-r2.. No problems with both.. Any hurdles to leap? Well except doing a emerge -e system emerge -e world after upgrading to gcc-4.x, no hurdles to leap.. :) Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgpByxuAdaKha.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] System.map not found - unable to check symbols
de Almeida, Valmor F. wrote: Hello list, Following closely the instrunctions on the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook, I installed gentoo recently (info below) and just did the first reboot before finalizing the installation. All worked except for this message during boot System.map not found - unable to check symbols. Well I had the same problem some time before. I'm using ~x86 tree and after a update it was solved. I don't remember which package was causing the problem. But I'm sure it's some init script. It's not a kernel problem. I now have no problems. But here's my logic as to why this warning shows up. According to /etc/fstab, /boot partition does not get auto mounted during boot up, so the init script can't find /boot/System.map (/boot being the folder, an empty on in /) which doesn't seem to cause problems during/after booting (??). Don't worry.. It wont cause no harm, except for the annoying warning.. I did a manual kernel compilation and the handbook didn't say anything about copying System.map to /boot. On a second attempt to reboot I did copied System.map to /boot. My grub.conf follows below. In /boot I have System.map and System.map-2.6.15.1 files (System.map is a soft link). To make the warning disappear, simply copy /usr/src/linux/System.map to /boot (don't mount the boot partition, i.e., make sure hda1 is *NOT* mounted).. This should hopefully make the warning disappear. (snip) Hope this helps, Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) Check Out : http://gentooisbest.blogspot.com pgp07PtORUX4Q.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT - which X terminal do you use?
Alexander Skwar wrote: Justin Findlay wrote: I find that one of the most attractive features of a terminal application is transparency That's something I'll never understand - why make the text on a terminal harder to read, by using transparency? Granted, it'll look better, but that's it. IMO transparency is one of the most useless features. Agreed. I find is quiet amusing too. Eye candy does not make an excuse for reduced readability and productivity. BTW my favorite's are konsole (because i use KDE) and I love my screen.. Bye, Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) Check Out : http://gentooisbest.blogspot.com pgphwRRzx0w8H.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?
Alexander Skwar wrote: Jeremy Olexa wrote: xterm and screen. Who needs tabs when you have screen? Me. What have tabs and screen to do with each other? It makes a lot of sense to use both. The use of one doesn't contradict the use of the other. In no way whatsoever. Can you tell me, why you would want to use both tab and screen? They both serve the same purpose. Screen is much better to handle than the tabs. Bye, Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) Check Out : http://gentooisbest.blogspot.com pgpyyO55KjPEX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: (snip) With wikipedia, everybody can go and edit what they want, when they want, where they want. Agreed. But that's also a good thing about it. Anybody can *correct* what they want, when they want, where they want. Why do you think people will always try to be destructive. No only a few are rest want to be constructive and at every chance they get they'll correct it. This is a proven fact as demonstrated by the Free Software Movement. Security.. Ringing Bells? Why don't you google? Hidden vandalism and misinformation are known problems. Are these known problems only with Wikipedia? I think not. And when a problem has been identified it can always be solved. The Linus's law Given enough eyeballs, all errors are shallow hold good to Wikipedia also. There are even cases, where someone corrected an article, and an admin undid the corrections, because people are not allowed to edit their biographies. Even if there are blatant lies and errors. Well if he can't edit it, someone else will always do it. Come on how many people read and at the same time audit the articles. You can use http://www.wikitruth.info/index.php?title=Main_Page Referring to wikitruth for facts about wikipedia reminds me of Microsoft's Get the Facts page. They both contain article which show their positions as truth while ignoring all other facts which contradict their claims. Why don't you check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wilki/wikipedia It also has criticism about wikipedia and all other facts about it. If you think something is wrong or inaccurate with the article, please use the power given to you and correct it. Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) Check Out : http://gentooisbest.blogspot.com pgpZrBqU31kPI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] PXE boot to linux
K. Mike Bradley wrote: I am a little green with Linux but here is a poser for the list . I am trying to set up a PXE boot to Linux for diskless workstations. I have PXELinux up and running no problem. What I need help on is how to make a kernel and initramfs to plug into PXE Linux. I know how to use genkernel but what I am after here is not just how to do it but what to put in the RAMdisk. In other words I need to build a test machine with minimal file structure so that I don't have to mount the whole root from an NFS share. I only want to mount the portions with user persistent data. Any Ideas? Thanks. What were you thinking when you were typing this? Some nice formatting would really make reading easier.. Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgpi1nC9gE2ga.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Windows -Linux Video Chat App
Ow Mun Heng wrote: Hi guys, Would like to know if there's any app available which can do that. Gaim-VV seems to have stopped devel. Ekiga doesn't work on windows. Skype works.. but it's only audio on Linux. Anyone?? Try wengophone (www.openwengo.org), it's in ~x86 branch of portage.. It supports both audio and video on GNU/Linux and Windows Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgp0Kv7cqmo1C.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Best File System For Linux
Hi all, First of all I'm sorry for not replying to this thread as I was busy with my exams. Anyway thanks for all your replies, I just want to present the my file system requirements in more elaborate way. I'll be using many partitions for different types of files to get maximum performance. As said earlier it's a Home Desktop System. From what I've read I'll be using the following file systems.. /dev/BOOT /boot ext2 noauto,noatime 1 2 No changes to /boot partition I guess.. /dev/ROOT / reiserfs noatime,notail 0 1 Since ROOT partition hold many small files I guess ReiserFS suits it best, but the problem is of fragmentation. Turning notail off solves it? /dev/SWAP none swap sw 0 0 Here's a fstab entry whose options I don't know at all.. Any options that can increase the performance.. I'm having 512MB System RAM and my Swap partition is 2000MB.. I hope RAM to Swap ratio doesn't effect performance (I've read somewhere that SWAP should be twice the amount of RAM, I don't remember where) /dev/PORTAGE /mnt/portage reiserfs noatime,nodev,nosuid,noexec,notail 0 2 This partition will hold the portage tree (lots of small sized files) so again ReiserFS, again the fragmentation issue.. Pointers? /dev/SRC /mnt/src XXX noatime,nodev,nosuid,noexec,xxx 0 2 This partition will hold the downloaded source code of packages.. I've not made any decision as to which FS to use.. This partition will hold files of variable size (100K - 200MB). Which file system to use? And what options to pass? /dev/MUSIC /mnt/music XXX noatime,nodev,nosuid,noexec,xxx 0 2 As name suggest it'll hold all my MP3's/OGG's.. File size averages around 3-5 MB.. File system and options to use.. I'm thinking bout ReiserFS.. Am I right? /dev/VIDEO /mnt/video xfs noatime,nodev,nosuid,noexec,xxx 0 2 File size of videos varies form 50 - 800 MB.. XFS, as I've read offers great performance when dealing with large files.. What options to pass to get max performance? /dev/OTHER /mnt/other XXX noatime,nodev,nosuid,noexec,xxx 0 2 This partition will hold e-books (size: 1 - 100 MB), pictures ( 1 MB) and some other stuff ( all less than 5 MB).. File system and options? /dev/HOME /home reiserfs noatime,nodev,nosuid,notail 0 2 This is the /home partition, again small files but also e-mails stored in mbox format.. File size will vary from extremely small to unknown (courtesy mbox).. Is ReiserFS good for this or should I choose ext3? /dev/OPT /opt XXX noatime,nodev,xxx 0 2 This partition holds, as you all know java, and many of my games (DOOM3, QUAKE4 at present).. The games have large *.PK4 files.. What FS and options to choose? /dev/TMP /tmp ext2 noatime,nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 2 For /tmp partition I think I'll stick with ext2.. Any suggestions? /dev/USR /usr reiserfs noatime,nodev,notail 0 2 Variable file size (no idea how much they vary).. ext3 or reiserfs? /dev/VAR /var reiserfs noatime,nodev,nosuid,noexec,notail 0 2 Again same dillemma as that of /usr.. I guess it'll hold many small files (courtesy portage), also some mid sized files (courtesy logs).. Mail is not a problem here as no mail is stored in this partition.. At present all my partitions have ext3 as their FS (except /boot and /tmp).. This is how I passed the mke2fs command: mke2fs -j -m 1 -O dir_index,filetype,sparse_super /dev/*** What options should I pass to get the max performance in ex3 (other than the above written), ReiserFS, XFS? Thanks in Advance and sorry for such a long post, Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgpv1OHdWGObD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 08:18, Farhan Ahmed wrote:
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} -fvisibility-inlines-hidden
no, just no. This breaks enough stuff. Do not tell others to use it. If you
want to use it. Fine. But do not tell anybody else to do it.
According to http://gentoo-wiki.com/CFLAGS_matrix
-fvisibility-inlines-hidden is recommended especially for KDE users..
Atleast while KDE it does not effect and is indeed recommended..
MAKEOPTS=
MAKEOPTS=-j2
-j1 is a good one for singlecore/single cpu computer, where the compiling is
running in the background.
No for singlecore/single cpu computer, -j2 is recommended.. Read
MAKEOPTS section in:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=5#doc_chap5
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=
Also if you wish add these lines to /etc/make.conf
LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1,-z,now,--sort-common
are you totally sure, that this do not break something? do this flags bring
anything, that can not be archived with prelink?
Again, you might want to use them, but you should not tell somebody else to
use them.-
Honestly I think I was wrong in recommending this.. But during the
emerge process of some packages there's a suggestion to use at least a
part of the LDFLAGS quoted above.. It's like a security warning.. I
decided to use these flags after reading a lot about them in Gentoo
forms
USE= X a52 aac alsa apache2 acpi arts audiofile avi berkdb bitmap-fonts
bzip2 cdr cli crypt ctype cups dba eds directfb doc dri dvd dvdread
elibc_glibc emboss encode esd ethereal exif expat fam fastbuild
foomaticdb
force-cgi-redirect fortran ftp gd gcj gdbm gif glut gmp gnome gpm
gstreamer gtk gtk2 gtkhtml guile hal hardened idn imlib ipv6 jpeg java
javascript kde kdexdeltas kernel_linux lcms libg++ libwww mad memlimit
mikmod mhash mng motif mozilla mime mmx mp3 mpeg ncurses nls nptl ogg
opengl oss pam pcre pdflib perl png posix python qt quicktime readline
samba sdl session simplexml slang soap sockets spell spl ssl sse sse2 svg
tcltk tcpd tiff tokenizer truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts usb udev
userland_GNU vorbis x86 xml xml2 xmms xsl xv zlib
Do you really need all these USE flags and features? I think not.. Add
USE flags that really are useful not add them just because they might
become useful sometime.. The more features you have in your packages,
the slower and more memory hungry they are.. Take a look at my USE
flags..
you think - but you don't know what he wants and needs.
btw, I would emerge ufed and work down the list
I've never used ufed, but after reading bout it now I think it's better
than manually editing.. Regardless of what way one chooses to select USE
flags I believe one must select the USE flags that are necessary..
The more features you got the more memory bloat it becomes..
USE=-X -arts -apache2 -berkdb -cups -dri -eds -esd -gdbm -gnome
-gstreamer -gtk -gpm -xmms 3dnow acl bash-completion bzip2 fbcon hal lzo
mbox mmx nsplugin nvidia offensive sse svga tiff urandom
-X because I don't every application to be built with X support, -arts
because of the same reason.. The applications that i think will need X
support I add a line like this to /etc/portage/package.use
so you want to break douzends of packages for him? Why? -dri? Maybe he needs
it? fbcon? Why? who needs it? You are telling him to deactivate usefull stuff
and activate useless? Great!
I didn't recommend this to him.. You have misquoted me.. You missed the
sentence which said Take a look at my USE flags.. These USE flags are
mine and I quoted them just to explain how to edit these files.. I don't
know what his system is so cant recommend the USE flags..
VIDEO_CARDS=your video card #like nvidia, ati
that is not needed anymore. Look into the use descriptions. Or even better,
get familiar with ufed.
If you use Xorg-7.0 it is useful.. (Also xine if I remember correctly(?))
Remember, always add the minimum USE flags you need to /etc/make.conf,
you should always tune your system to specific packages by adding USE
flags to be used for the specific package to /etc/portage/package.use
oh, yeah, increase the work and risk subtle breakage here and there
There's always a risk when it comes to fine tuning your system that it
may break things.. You've to pay the price experimenting.. If you are
not brave enough the default are good, but performance will not match
the fine tuned machine (Although I'm sure the performance gain is not
worth the trouble, but the learning experience is worth)
Bye,
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Re: [gentoo-user] .wmv files
WillieDaPimp wrote: There are alot of web pages that I've tried to watch video clips on but i can't watch them due to the files being in .wmv format. Is there a plugin that I can emerge to view these files or maybe even a app that converts .wmv to some other linux friendly video file?? Check out the following HOW-TO for playing video's from browsers (like in Windows) http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_mplayerplug-in For converting from .wmv to other formats I recommend mencoder (it comes with MPlayer).. Make sure you compile MPlayer with win32codecs USE flag.. Here's an example to convert movie.wmv to movie.avi (DivX) : mencoder movie.wmv -o movie.avi -ovc lavc -oac lavc For more info about using mencoder read : http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mencoder_Introduction_Guide Remember mencoder can convert any file playable through MPlayer to any other format recognized by MPlayer.. There are lots of options which you can read by referring to 'man mencoder'.. Hope this helps, Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgp1yvVYd4NxG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
On Friday 05 May 2006 12:42, Farhan Ahmed wrote:
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 08:18, Farhan Ahmed wrote:
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} -fvisibility-inlines-hidden
no, just no. This breaks enough stuff. Do not tell others to use it. If
you want to use it. Fine. But do not tell anybody else to do it.
According to http://gentoo-wiki.com/CFLAGS_matrix
-fvisibility-inlines-hidden is recommended especially for KDE users..
Atleast while KDE it does not effect and is indeed recommended..
and if I remember right, there was some KDE breakage with this flag. No?
gentoo-wiki is not an official gentoo project ;)
And a wiki can be edited by everybody.
http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDbug_status=RESOLVEDbug_status=VERIFIEDbug_status=CLOSEDfield0-0-0=producttype0-0-0=substringvalue0-0-0=fvisibility-inlines-hiddenfield0-0-1=componenttype0-0-1=substringvalue0-0-1=fvisibility-inlines-hiddenfield0-0-2=short_desctype0-0-2=substringvalue0-0-2=fvisibility-inlines-hiddenfield0-0-3=status_whiteboardtype0-0-3=substringvalue0-0-3=fvisibility-inlines-hidden
Thanks for the pointer.. I take my word back about
-fvisibility-inlines-hidden being a safe option for KDE.
MAKEOPTS=
MAKEOPTS=-j2
-j1 is a good one for singlecore/single cpu computer, where the compiling
is running in the background.
No for singlecore/single cpu computer, -j2 is recommended.. Read
MAKEOPTS section in:
really? with -j2 my box crawls when compiling, sometimes even oom. With -j1 I
can use it, as if nothing happens and I don't get oom. Plus - it is not
slower.
I have read the sections, I suffered from -j2 and I stopped using it. All
better now.
Btw, since switching between tasks and threads is something CPUs really hate,
I can't even imagine how increasing the amount of needed switches should
help.
Al least Gentoo Handbook is a official Gentoo project and they recommend
it.. :)
Also if you wish add these lines to /etc/make.conf
LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1,-z,now,--sort-common
are you totally sure, that this do not break something? do this flags
bring anything, that can not be archived with prelink?
Again, you might want to use them, but you should not tell somebody else
to use them.-
Honestly I think I was wrong in recommending this.. But during the
emerge process of some packages there's a suggestion to use at least a
part of the LDFLAGS quoted above.. It's like a security warning.. I
decided to use these flags after reading a lot about them in Gentoo
forms
yes, but everything in the forums should be taken with a grain of salt - a
lot
of ricers are there. It is safer to look into bugs.gentoo.org ;)
It's true but after doing a bit of research I think they are stable
enough to use.. I don't use all the fancy stuff they post in forums..
(snip)
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Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.4-r2: Problems with UTF-8 locale
Alexander Skwar wrote: Hello! Yesterday I updated from glibc-2.4-r1 to glibc-2.4-r2. Since then, I've got problems with my UTF-8 locale. I suppose, that is because the UTF-8 denomination seems to have changed from .UTF-8 to .utf8: [10:17:42 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~] $ locale -a locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_COLLATE to default locale: No such file or directory C POSIX de_DE de_DE.utf8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] en_US en_US.utf8 Before glibc-2.4-r2, it used to be de_DE.UTF-8 and nto de_DE.utf8. Even when my system was running glibc-2.4-r1 the UTF-8 denomination was .utf8.. Just now I upgraded to glibc-2.4-r2 the UTF-8 denomination is still the same i.e., .utf8 (snip) Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgpGxcf93fD7z.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: glibc-2.4-r2: Problems with UTF-8 locale
Sven Köhler wrote: (snip) I also looked it up on a Redhat-System: no .UTF-8 locales. What might have been the last glibc-version with UTF-8 locales? (i don't remember to have seen that over the last few years) I think some .UTF-8 locales were used uptil recently.. I read the Using UTF-8 with Gentoo http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/utf-8.xml and found out that they mentioned .UTF-8 only no mention of .utf8 !!! As far as I know glibc-2.4 uses .utf8 locales.. No idea when .UTF-8 was changed to .utf8 Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgpM0p1kuCgqm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: glibc-2.4-r2: Problems with UTF-8 locale
Alexander Skwar wrote: Sven Köhler wrote: (snip) What might have been the last glibc-version with UTF-8 locales? 2.3.6-r3 or 2.4-r1 No. Glibc-2.4-r1 used .utf8 locales.. Just as an example of .utf8 usage even before glibc-2.4 read this Gentoo Weekly NewsLetter: http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20041108-newsletter.xml#doc_chap7 If you read it carefully you can see the Zulu locale for South Africa being written as zu_ZA.utf8.. Even on my system with 2.4-r1 glibc the locales were like en_US.utf8 and after upgrading to 2.4-r2 they are still the same.. Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgpF1mfKMwV7h.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: (snip) The difference is: with -j2 box is slow. A lot of packages do not compile because of ooms. with -j1 box is normal. No ooms. Compiling does not take longer as with -j2. This is the first time I'm hearing this.. Even with -j2 my system functions normally.. Has anyone encountered same problem? PS: Your quote in previous message about gentoo-wiki is not true.. Although I agree that the Flags I quoted were unstable, you cannot say gentoo-wiki cannot be trusted just because it can be edited by anyone.. If you are true then you cannot trust any Free Software because it too can be edited.. Agreed that someone might post wrong info, but it's even more likely that someone will recognize it and correct it.. This is the beauty of open source.. Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgp2RKNXCenI4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: glibc-2.4-r2: Problems with UTF-8 locale
Alexander Skwar wrote: What might have been the last glibc-version with UTF-8 locales? 2.3.6-r3 or 2.4-r1 No. Glibc-2.4-r1 used .utf8 locales. That might be. Then I wonder, why I had no problems with .UTF-8 when I was using 2.4-r1. As I wrote, it might be, that my system was misbehaving, as it accepted .UTF-8 just fine. I'm afraid I got no idea about it.. Anyway have you changed your locale settings from .UTF-8 to .utf8 (all environment variables etc.,)? Is your system working fine now? Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgpzg9wZabYT2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: glibc-2.4-r2: Problems with UTF-8 locale
Jeremy Olexa wrote: Alexander Skwar wrote: Sven Köhler wrote: My glibc 2.3.6 (with userlocales turned off) never creates such locales. There's no such flag as userlocales. Sorry, I cannot help with the issue but I do know there is a userlocales flag, I use this flag to only add the locales that I need and shave disk space. Well userlocales USE flag was there in glibc-2.4-r1 but it's absent in glibc-2.4-r2.. But here's the weird thing, I had compiled glibc-2.4-r1 with userlocales USE flag, in my /etc/locales.build I just have en_US/ISO-8859-1 en_US.UTF-8/UTF-8 so the locale -a output, quiet expectantly, is: C en_US en_US.utf8 POSIX But with 2.4-r2 there is no such flag as userlocales and I was expecting glibc to build all locales, but to my surprise I still have the above said locales only.. Any ideas? Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgpOz1nQfA1rD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Friday 05 May 2006 15:19, Farhan Ahmed wrote: (snip) PS: Your quote in previous message about gentoo-wiki is not true.. Although I agree that the Flags I quoted were unstable, you cannot say gentoo-wiki cannot be trusted just because it can be edited by anyone.. If you are true then you cannot trust any Free Software because it too can be edited.. Agreed that someone might post wrong info, but it's even more likely that someone will recognize it and correct it.. This is the beauty of open source.. it is much easier to vandalize a wiki then software. I, you, anyone can get one or two sentences into any wiki article, that look sane, but are totally wrong. And nobody but an expert would find it. gentoowiki is nice, but you always have to turn your brain on, before doing, what is written there. The same is true for wikipedia - don't think, that everything written there is true. Blatant vandalization is easy to spot. But subtile misinformation, that is the problem. And it is a big one. But it'll be corrected nonetheless.. :) Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgpST3it3B3WE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: (snip) There are cases, where misonformation was not found for month, even longer - and there are a lot of very demanding and obscure articles, would you really bet, that every case of voluntary misinformation can and will be found? In that case you should stop using GNU/OSS software, as you have no way of knowing every piece of code using your brains.. Have you ever audited kernel before updating? No.. But still you update.. Why? Because you trust that someone will point some malicious code, if any, before it comes to your machine.. Likewise, if someone reads the article and he sees some inconsistency, he'll in all likelihood correct it (just in wiki's, not entirely possible in Reliable Articles By Experts).. Just as an example, compare Wikipedia spelling accuracy to other sources, you'll find that Wikipedia is far better.. When thousands of people are editing a article there will always be some odd person who will post misinformation, but how many people will correct it? Almost everyone who points that misinformation.. Almost every book we read contain some mistakes, so should we stop reading book or stop learning from it.. But at least with wiki pages one has the option of correcting the mistakes live.. If you don't trust the community that's doing this great work of writing free software, sharing their knowledge in Wiki's, then what's the point of using GNU/Linux? I'm not saying that you are entirely wrong, but your assumption that one must not follow wiki's just because they are world editable is wrong Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgp0Pj1mo3dNw.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Best File System For Linux
Hi, I want to know which is the best file system for a high performance Linux? I'm presently a encrypted ext3 file system for my Gentoo Desktop machine.. I've heard that ReiserFS provides the best performance.. Is it true? What about XFS? My file system is created using the following command : sbin/mkfs.ext3 -j -m 1 -O dir_index,filetype,sparse_super /dev/*** I want to know what all options I can use for ReiserFS, ext3 and XFS to get the maximum performance.. Also I have this in my '/etc/fstab': /dev/ROOT / ext3 noatime,data=journal /dev/SWAP none swap sw /dev/XXX /doc ext3 noatime,nodev,nosuid,noexec,data=journal /dev/USR /usr ext3 noatime,nodev,data=journal What should I modify top get the best performance in all (ReiserFS, ext3 and XFS) file systems? Thanks In Advance, Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgpvJ1ceDT7pU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(snip)
So I went through all those different USE flags, and added ones I knew I
could
add without anything blowing up. This is what I get:
# These settings were set by the catalyst build script that automatically
built this stage
# Please consult /etc/make.conf.example for a more detailed example
#CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe
CFLAGS=-march=i686 -O2 -pipe
I'd suggest CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} -fvisibility-inlines-hidden
MAKEOPTS=
MAKEOPTS=-j2
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=
If you wish to have latest packages, change ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86, it
might make your system a bit unstable but going through my experience it
has not broken a thing in my system.
Also if you wish add these lines to /etc/make.conf
LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1,-z,now,--sort-common
USE= X a52 aac alsa apache2 acpi arts audiofile avi berkdb bitmap-fonts
bzip2
cdr cli crypt ctype cups dba eds directfb doc dri dvd dvdread elibc_glibc
emboss encode esd ethereal exif expat fam fastbuild foomaticdb
force-cgi-redirect fortran ftp gd gcj gdbm gif glut gmp gnome gpm gstreamer
gtk gtk2 gtkhtml guile hal hardened idn imlib ipv6 jpeg java javascript kde
kdexdeltas kernel_linux lcms libg++ libwww mad memlimit mikmod mhash mng
motif mozilla mime mmx mp3 mpeg ncurses nls nptl ogg opengl oss pam pcre
pdflib perl png posix python qt quicktime readline samba sdl session
simplexml slang soap sockets spell spl ssl sse sse2 svg tcltk tcpd tiff
tokenizer truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts usb udev userland_GNU vorbis
x86 xml xml2 xmms xsl xv zlib
Do you really need all these USE flags and features? I think not.. Add
USE flags that really are useful not add them just because they might
become useful sometime.. The more features you have in your packages,
the slower and more memory hungry they are.. Take a look at my USE
flags..
USE=-X -arts -apache2 -berkdb -cups -dri -eds -esd -gdbm -gnome
-gstreamer -gtk -gpm -xmms 3dnow acl bash-completion bzip2 fbcon hal lzo
mbox mmx nsplugin nvidia offensive sse svga tiff urandom
-X because I don't every application to be built with X support, -arts
because of the same reason.. The applications that i think will need X
support I add a line like this to /etc/portage/package.use
media-libs/imlib2 X
Also if i need to remove some support from packages, i add line like
this to /etc/portage/package.use
www-client/links -jpeg -png -sdl -svga -tiff
I also don't suggest hardened USE flag.. You most certainly don't need
them.. Trust me..
Add these lines to /etc/make.conf to further fine tune tour system..
VIDEO_CARDS=your video card #like nvidia, ati
INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse #add anything extra you've
Remember, always add the minimum USE flags you need to /etc/make.conf,
you should always tune your system to specific packages by adding USE
flags to be used for the specific package to /etc/portage/package.use
(snip)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Sound problems with skype
Jer?nimo Backes wrote: (snip) Any other suggestions? I'm using skype with KDE and kernel-2.6.16-x.. I don't have arts support in any kde application and still skype runs fine.. Anyway i suggest you try WengoPhone.. It's open source and is based upon open standards.. I'm using it, the sound quality is better than Skype.. Check out their website http://openwengo.org.. Gentoo even has a ebuild for it in portage (net-im/wengophone).. Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgpYNkWUgW4Cg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)
Jeff wrote: I'm seeing this a lot during init. Any idears? * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)... I think you booted into live CD with your bios clock set to local time, well live CD thinks your clock is in UTC format.. You might have set your Gentoo system's clock format to local. When you boot into your system the modification time of files installed during the live CD install is actually in future and that's why the message.. I had the same problem during my first install.. Possible solution? I think a 'touch -m' would do.. Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgphHEyWF6xw4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Sound problems with skype
Jer?nimo Backes wrote: I have Skype installed on my HP Pavilion zv6000 laptop, but the sound doesn't work. When speaking, the person I'm talking with can listen to me without problems. But then that person speaks with me, I hear some cracks, but no voice. I'm running skype under KDE 3.5.2, and arts has full-duplex enabled. ALSA is compiled into the kernel (gentoo-sources-2.6.16.r3) and I'm not having problems with multiple sounds. The issue is with Skype only. Does anyone have a suggestion on how to solve that problem? First of all don't start a new topic by replying to other non related thread.. As far as skype problem goes, try enabling 'Full Duplex'.. It can be accessed under Control-Center-Sound Multimedia-Sound System-Hardware There's a check box by label Full Duplex, enable it and save it.. Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgpBKxcIn3vCt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild U ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.0.8 [1.0.7-r4] -debug +gnome +ipv6 +java* -mozcalendar -mozdevelop -moznoxft -mozsvg +truetype -xinerama -xprint 32,135 kB I see here that I've got it compiled with the debug pointers (which I'm told slow things down) and it has no KDE/Qt support, either. This... could be a problem. -debug means you don't have debug pointers.. A use flag can be considered as a configure option.. -debug means --disable-debug, +gnome means --enable-gnome... What -debug does is it disables debugging, i.e., it strips the binary of debugging symbols.. +flags enables support for the feature.. To have a look at all the USE flag and what they do take a look at /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc and /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc First: I'd like to know where I can change the USE flags globally, such that all new activity will have no debug support, which I don't need. I'd also like to add KDE/Qt functionality, if that's possible on the global level as well. (snip) Well add the following line to /etc/make.conf USE=kde qt I do believe that kde, qt and -debug are in make.defaults.. Atleast in x86 profiles they are, so i don't think you need to add the USE=kde qt line to /etc/make.conf as they are enabled by default How can I specifically re-build a package with changed USE flags? (snip) emerge --newuse --update --deep world Hope this helps, Farhan Ahmed PS: For more info about portage and USE flags, check the Gentoo documentation, http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2 read all the sections, they contain valuable info.. -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgps1cIglLjvA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3
Iain Buchanan wrote: (snip) Thanks, that's pretty much what I had. I'm interested in your framerates though. With glxgears I only get about 130 fps with the radeon driver, yet I get 2500+ fps with ati-drivers... (snip) are u sure of that 2500+ fps.. I think its 250+ fps.. If not i'm ditching my nvidia card and buying ati.. :) But i'm sure when it comes to performance nvidia is the leader.. Bye, Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgpRh05KFAODS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
Jeff Rollin wrote: DG_DISABLE_DEBUG strips debugging information from binaries, making them smaller (and faster) I dont think there is any use flags like DG_DISABLE_DEBUG.. As for as debugging symbols goes the use flag 'debug' control them i guess.. And as far as i know on x86 arch it -debug, so by default it strips debugging info from binaries.. Here's a snip from portage/profiles/use.desc: debug - Tells configure and the makefiles to build for debugging. Effects vary across packages, but generally it will at least add -g to CFLAGS. Remember to set FEATURES=nostrip too Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgpc5NL3Fsmfh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
Alexander Skwar wrote:
(snip)_
To the others: Is ipv6 still one of the default flags? Has
this bug still not been fixed?
(snip)
Well in default-linux/{alpha,amd64,arm,hppa,ia64,m68k,s390,sh,x86}
profiles, its on by default.. I don know for sure that in hardened profile
it's turned off..
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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
Alexander Skwar wrote: (snip) PS: I begin to hate Googlemail because of the default to use HTML even if it is not required. Sucks. Big time. Another thing that sucks, is that HTML mails are permitted on this list. Why not just dump the HTML part (and every other attachment)? Well I think imposing things is a bad way, I'm sure why we all hate M$ is because it imposes things on us and gives us no choice.. How bout making the users know bout things and let them decide.. I think you just converted one mailer from HTML to text.. I guess that's what required.. Proper guidance and knowledge not some rules which deny users the right to post, just because they do not know whether their mail client is sending mail in HTML format.. Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgphHy485E3KH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
Jeff Rollin wrote: I didn't say DG_DISABLE_DEBUG was a USE flag, I said it was a CFLAG. And it improves the speed of KDE applications too Read your earlier post.. Anyway where is this CFLAGS 'DG_DISABLE_DEBUG' documented? I cant find any reference to it in man gcc. No usable results came up when i googled it.. Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgpge8hV5GqdM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ssmtp.conf security concern
John J. Foster wrote: Good afternoon, I solved my problem of a few days ago by adding [EMAIL PROTECTED] AuthPass=PASSWORD to /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf. This was related to my ISP now requiring SMTP AUTH for mail. But I'm concerned about the security implications of having this in a world-readable file. If this was only necessary to get mutt mail off my system, I could just add set sendmail=/usr/sbin/ssmtp -au [EMAIL PROTECTED] -ap PASSWORD to my .muttrc file. But cron also need this in order to mail me results of nightly jobs using mailx. I realize this is just a single user system, but this solution just doesn't seem right. Are there config options that can be placed in individual $HOME rc files, ie. $HOME/.ssmtp.conf. I can't seem to track down much documentation on ssmtp.conf. I don't really want to go with something fullblown like sendmail. How bout using msmtp? It's lightweight and is well documented (?).. To use it change the value of sendmail in your .muttrc to this: set sendmail=/usr/bin/msmtp Also fill in your account details in ~/.msmtprc: account default host smtp.your_provider.net from [EMAIL PROTECTED] #see man page for more auth options auth login user your_username password your_password #If your SMTP Server supports TLS encryption, uncomment the next line #tls Be sure to execute chmod 0600 ~/.msmtprc I copied these info from Gentoo Documentation.. Hope this helps.. Personally i use postfix with my gmail account.. Farhan Ahmed P.S: Give muttng a try.. It has lots of features like nntp, smtp, sidebar support and plenty.. -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgpINKeC6F08c.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems moving /boot partiton
Try executing this command from the grub command line: find /boot/bzImage-2.6.16-gentoo-r2 It'll return the partition where it finds the file.. It should be something like (ab0,x).. Then as usual enter the grub commands.. root (ab0,x) setup (ab0) quit Hope this helps, Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgpp9KdAyOXlk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why does portage depend on the kernel?
Chris Bare wrote: Any idea why it wants to install the new kernel too? Because you are giving the --deep (-D) option to it.. oberon # emerge -puD portage Instead of this, execute emerge -u portage, this will only update portage.. Hope this helps, Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgp7rHyK5Kng8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] pppd and adsl
Chen Yufei wrote: snip (2) Every time I call /etc/init.d/net.ppp0 there is a warning saying that net.ppp0 is started but is inactive This is my /etc/conf.d/net modules=( iproute2) config_eth0=( 192.168.0.2/24 ) config_ppp0=( ppp ) link_ppp0=eth0 plugins_ppp0=( pppoe ) username_ppp0='xxx' password_ppp0='xxx' pppd_ppp0=( updetach defaultroute usepeerdns) Any suggestion? I've configured my adsl connection bit diffrently. I've my adsl connection settings in /etc/conf.d/net file. Here's the contents of that file config_eth0=( adsl ) adsl_user_eth0=username also the contents of /etc/ppp/chap-secrets : username* password I bring up my adsl connection up by, '/etc/init.d/net.eth0 start'.. No problems or warnings for me. I've added net.eth0 to default level.. Also i dont know whether this post is right to ask my question, but recently when i updated my system (~x86), the network (eth0) came up before the default (level 3) gets started, i.e., even before my firewall starts!!!.. I checked my rc-update, but net.eth0 is still in default level.. Any pointers as to why this happening? Earlier it used to start in default level, but now it seems it starts in boot level.. Bye, Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgpBTMvjDods4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] pppd and adsl
Chen Yufei wrote: snip (2) Every time I call /etc/init.d/net.ppp0 there is a warning saying that net.ppp0 is started but is inactive This is my /etc/conf.d/net modules=( iproute2) config_eth0=( 192.168.0.2/24 ) config_ppp0=( ppp ) link_ppp0=eth0 plugins_ppp0=( pppoe ) username_ppp0='xxx' password_ppp0='xxx' pppd_ppp0=( updetach defaultroute usepeerdns) Any suggestion? I've configured my adsl connection bit diffrently. I've my adsl connection settings in /etc/conf.d/net file. Here's the contents of that file config_eth0=( adsl ) adsl_user_eth0=username also the contents of /etc/ppp/chap-secrets : username* password I bring up my adsl connection up by, '/etc/init.d/net.eth0 start'.. No problems or warnings for me. I've added net.eth0 to default level.. Also i dont know whether this post is right to ask my question, but recently when i updated my system (~x86), the network (eth0) came up before the default (level 3) gets started, i.e., even before my firewall starts!!!.. I checked my rc-update, but net.eth0 is still in default level.. Any pointers as to why this happening? Earlier it used to start in default level, but now it seems it starts in boot level.. Bye, Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgpN14Z8dvExt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] where is /dev/ttyS* ?
maxim wexler wrote: Hello everybody, When I try to dialup the 'net on a fresh 2.6.16 install I get: #pon isp /usr/sbin/pppd: In file /etc/peers/hd: unrecognized option '/dev/ttyS0' Sure enough, there's no such file, just /dev/tty, 0, 1 ... On my 2.6.12 and 2.6.15 boxen /dev/ttyS0 is a sym-link to tts/0 and I can dial out no problem. On the 2.6.16 box ls /dev/tty* just reveals a numerical, unlinked list. /dev/ttyS* no longer exists. Hi, I suppose you've connected your modem to a serial port (COMx under windows, /dev/ttySx under linux). /dev/ttyx is a terminal, i dont think modem is that device. Why dont you create a sym-link /dev/ttySx to /dev/tts/x? Here's what pppconfig wrote(identical on all my PCs): sarawak heathen # cat /etc/ppp/peers/hd # This optionfile was generated by pppconfig 2.3.10. # # hide-password noauth connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/hd debug /dev/ttyS0 115200 defaultroute noipdefault user [EMAIL PROTECTED] remotename hd ipparam hd Well learn to substitue a nonsence id for your real id (something like xyz will do) when posting your config's. As it stands now I can dial out from the 2.6.16 box only if I boot the install-cd and copy over from another drive my ppp config files and use the pppd that comes with the install-cd. And *it* uses /dev/ttyS0. If I try to go with /dev/tty or /dev/tty0 on the fresh install without benefit of install-cd, nothing happens -- no error on the console or the logs, no dialtone, nothing. Again /dev/ttyx is a terminal, u can check that by doing 'echo hi /dev/tty1' as root. You'll see 'hi' being printed in tty1. A dialup modem usually connects to the serial port (i.e., /dev/ttyS0). If this device does not exist create a symlink to tts/0. Yes, I did mknod /dev/ppp c 108 0 and here's lsmod copied over from the 2.6.16 box. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /floppy/lsmod Module Size Used by ppp_async 11840 0 crc_ccitt 1952 1 ppp_async ppp_deflate 6176 0 zlib_deflate 21528 1 ppp_deflate zlib_inflate 17440 1 ppp_deflate bsd_comp5952 0 ppp_generic26484 3 ppp_async,ppp_deflate,bsd_comp slhc6912 1 ppp_generic rtc14452 0 usbcore 148804 1 unix 29712 4 I'm using ppp-2.4.3-r14. When I emerged it I was told that I must emerge -u '=sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.0_pre11' as well as add bsd_comp and ppp_deflate to my kernel config. Both of which I did. Have you compiled serial port support in your new kernel? Hope this helps, Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgpHPgqSKu8Ro.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Install help
Bob Bao wrote: Hi. I am a new gentoo user here. I downloaded gentoo 2.6 liveCD from gentoo website. After couple time trying, finally I successfully complete the installing. But, after log in, I only get a xterm window and a session window. I think suppose I should get a graphic user interface like boot Hi Bob and welcome to Gentoo, Which graphic desktop you have installed? If its plain X server (i.e., xorg-x11) then you'll get a very basic desktop, which you obviously dont want. If you installed kde, then probaby you've not modified your .xinitrc file. Execute this command from from console, echo exec startkde ~/.xinitrc next time you execute 'startx', kde will startup. for GNOME, execute this command first echo exec gnome-session ~/.xinitrc then startx will bring gnome up. For more info on other desktop's checkout the Gentoo docs at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/list.xml Hope this helps, Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 Skype ID: farhanahmed06 IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgp7Le5E6xrkJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync error
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't emerge --sync after portage-2.1_pre7-r5 installed. The process freezed on receiving file list. I think it's the bug of portage-2.1_pre7-r5, so I downgraded to portage-2.1_pre3-r1. I'm using portage-2.1_pre7-r5 but got no such problems. Re emerge portage and recheck it. pgpu34H1PKXM7.pgp Description: PGP signature
