Re: [gentoo-user] Any consequences to package.mask'ing newer kernels?

2007-04-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 02:11:58 +0200, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:

  equery --quiet --nocolor list --duplicates gentoo-sources | awk
  '{print $1}' | head -n -2 | xargs --no-run-if-empty emerge --unmerge
  /dev/null  
 
 Out of interest:
 
 1) Why --duplicates (i.e. am I missing something ;).

No idea, I wrote the script a couple of years ago, if I'd wanted to
remember how it worked I'd have commented it. :) It was never intended
for per review, just a quick hack top free up some disk space. 
I originally used qpkg, but you're right that equery doesn't need
--duplicates.

 2) Why the awk? Is there ever more than one column without --no-pipe ?

I don't think so, but it doesn't hurt to leave it in. I used awk
because the terminal output adds extra fields and I possibly didn't even
bother to check whether they were still there when using a pipe.


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Re: [gentoo-user] floppy flops: mtools vs file managers

2007-04-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 23:11:32 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:

 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy msdos noauto,user,sync 0 0
 
 ...in /etc/fstab.  I don't know if the sync options works with MSDOS
 filesys, but it's worth a try.

It does, it's useful for killing flash memory devices :( It will be very
slow though, because Linux now updates the FAT table after each block
write, which is how it managed to start wearing out flash memory.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Diary tool?

2007-04-13 Thread Andrea Bona

Take a look at Zim.

Zim - a desktop wiki and outliner

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[gentoo-user] Masked packages

2007-04-13 Thread Johannes Skov Frandsen
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Hi

I posted a question yesterday about masked packages and got a lot of
answers on how to use it, but didn't really needed it for the task I was
trying to accomplish. Now however i fear there is no way around it.

After reading trough the different posts I figured that the way to go
would be to add a line to the 'package.keywords' file in /etc/portage.

So i did the following:

echo dev-php5/phpunit-3.0.5 ~x86  /etc/portage/package.keywords
emerge -av dev-php5/phpunit

My problem is that emerge still ain't to happy... it prints out:

Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.keywords: dev-php5/phpunit-3.0.5

Any suggestions/help would be appreciated.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Masked packages

2007-04-13 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Friday 13 April 2007 11:47, Johannes Skov Frandsen wrote:

 My problem is that emerge still ain't to happy... it prints out:

 Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.keywords: dev-php5/phpunit-3.0.5

Just put the name of the package without the version number:

echo dev-php5/phpunit ~x86  /etc/portage/package.keywords
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Re: [gentoo-user] Masked packages

2007-04-13 Thread Boris Fersing

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Hi


Hi,



I posted a question yesterday about masked packages and got a lot of
answers on how to use it, but didn't really needed it for the task I was
trying to accomplish. Now however i fear there is no way around it.

After reading trough the different posts I figured that the way to go
would be to add a line to the 'package.keywords' file in /etc/portage.

So i did the following:

echo dev-php5/phpunit-3.0.5 ~x86  /etc/portage/package.keywords
emerge -av dev-php5/phpunit

My problem is that emerge still ain't to happy... it prints out:

Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.keywords: dev-php5/phpunit-3.0.5

Any suggestions/help would be appreciated.


Try without the version : dev-php5/phpunit it'll work better ;)

Read 'man portage' if you want to know more about the /etc/portage/ files ;)

HTH.

Boris.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Masked packages

2007-04-13 Thread Tony Stohne
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Etaoin Shrdlu said the following on 2007-04-13 12:28:

 Just put the name of the package without the version number:
 
 echo dev-php5/phpunit ~x86  /etc/portage/package.keywords
...or put = before the specific version, as in

echo =dev-php5/phpunit-3.0.5 ~x86

Either way shouild work, allthough Etoains tip is more general, ie
non-specific with regards to version.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Masked packages

2007-04-13 Thread Will Briggs
Johannes Skov Frandsen wrote:
 Hi
 
 I posted a question yesterday about masked packages and got a lot of
 answers on how to use it, but didn't really needed it for the task I was
 trying to accomplish. Now however i fear there is no way around it.
 
 After reading trough the different posts I figured that the way to go
 would be to add a line to the 'package.keywords' file in /etc/portage.
 
 So i did the following:
  echo dev-php5/phpunit-3.0.5 ~x86  /etc/portage/package.keywords

Try echo =dev-php5/phpunit-3.0.5 ~x86  /dtc/portage/package.keywords

Alternatively emerge flagedit and

flagedit =dev-php5/phpunit-3.0.5 -- +~x86

If you include the version number in the package name you have to
specify whether the package is = to the version or  than etc. This
helps you unmask all versions greater than a certain version etc.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Masked packages

2007-04-13 Thread W. Barnhoorn
Johannes Skov Frandsen wrote:

 echo dev-php5/phpunit-3.0.5 ~x86  /etc/portage/package.keywords
 emerge -av dev-php5/phpunit
  ..
 Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.keywords: dev-php5/phpunit-3.0.5

You used the version number of the package, and that why portage complains.
The right line should be:

dev-php5/phpunit ~x86 in package.keywords

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[gentoo-user] re: Masked packages

2007-04-13 Thread Johannes Skov Frandsen
Hi

Removing the version number did the trick. Thanks everybody.

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[gentoo-user] Intel High Definition Audio and its problems

2007-04-13 Thread Pongracz Istvan
Hi,

I have a Fujitsu Amilo laptop, which has a nice audio subsystem,
called 
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High
Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)

I have some problems with it:
no master volume, skype cannot use its microphone, even I can adjust the
volume of the mic and I can hear my voice when I speak with echo123, but
skype records no sound.

I would like to know, does anybody have this kind of audio system and
how to solve this kind of issue?

I googled for a day, but there is no solution to my problem.

Thank you,
István


Technical Details:

gentoo-sources 2.6.20-r5, skype 1.3.0.53-r1, alsa-driver 1.0.14-rc3 



localhost etc # lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML
and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS,
943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS,
943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High
Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express
Port 1 (rev 02)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express
Port 2 (rev 02)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express
Port 3 (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI
Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI
Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI
Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI
Controller #4 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI
Controller (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev e2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface
Bridge (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE
Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family)
SATA AHCI Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller
(rev 02)
05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
Network Connection (rev 02)
06:04.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): O2 Micro, Inc. Firewire (IEEE 1394) (rev
02)
06:04.2 Generic system peripheral [0805]: O2 Micro, Inc. Integrated
MMC/SD Controller (rev 01)
06:04.3 Mass storage controller: O2 Micro, Inc. Integrated MS/xD
Controller (rev 01)
06:05.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)

localhost etc # arecord -l

 List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices 
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC861 Analog [ALC861 Analog]
  Subdevices: 2/2
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 6: Si3054 Modem [Si3054 Modem]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

localhost etc # aplay -l

 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC861 Analog [ALC861 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: ALC861 Digital [ALC861 Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 6: Si3054 Modem [Si3054 Modem]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
localhost etc # 


/etc/modules.d/alsa

alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss

# Set this to the correct number of cards.

# --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
# --- ALSACONF version 1.0.9a ---
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
alias sound-slot-0 snd-hda-intel
options snd-hda-intel model=3stack
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Re: [gentoo-user] Intel High Definition Audio and its problems

2007-04-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 13 April 2007, Pongracz Istvan wrote:
 I have a Fujitsu Amilo laptop, which has a nice audio subsystem,
 called
 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High
 Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)

fwiw, my laptop has an 82801(FB (ICH6) chipset, and I suffer the same 
problem with 2.6.20 - no mic despite using every trick I know of.

However, it all works just fine with a lower kernel version. I might be 
wrong but I think 2.6.19 worked fine, either that or 2.6.18.

What results do you get by using a lower kernel version, or by using out 
of tree alsa modules?

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Re: [gentoo-user] more on the mysterious console blanking

2007-04-13 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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maxim wexler wrote:
 Does it have to do with this dummy console? Am I the
 dummy? I went through the config pages with a fine
 tooth comb and couldn't find it. No idea how it got
 into the .config file.

Stupid questions but... have you tried booting a Gentoo livecd and see if you 
still have issues?
You sure the FB modules don't get loaded automagically? What about passing 
vga=normal (or other
options) to the kernel command line?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Intel High Definition Audio and its problems

2007-04-13 Thread Pongracz Istvan
2007. 04. 13, péntek keltezéssel 13.03-kor Alan McKinnon ezt írta:

 However, it all works just fine with a lower kernel version. I might be 
 wrong but I think 2.6.19 worked fine, either that or 2.6.18.
 
 What results do you get by using a lower kernel version, or by using out 
 of tree alsa modules?

Good news! I mean, there are somebody there with a similar problem :)


So, I got this new machine just some weeks ago, so, I started with the
latest kernel+alsa.

I will try 2.6.19-x this evening to see, what is the situation.

By the way, one annoying thing is: there is no master volume.

The other one, even I can hear my voice, I cannot record it with skype.
And I failed with arecord too:
it gives me a blank (only header) file.

I have no idea yet.

Regards,
IStván


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[gentoo-user] dr.dk

2007-04-13 Thread Johannes Skov Frandsen
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Hi

I feel like I'm spamming this mailing list with questions but I'm much
impressed by the speed and quality of the answers so here I go again
with another one.

I can't seem to play streaming radio from http://www.dr.dk. I followed
one of the links from http://www.dr.dk/netradio/afspillere.asp, but
totem just bitches about 'no uri handler implemented for mms:'.

I then tried to install vlc, which went ok except I could only run it
from the shell, and it wouldn't play the stream either.

I have compile with the 'v4l' and 'v4l2' flag, as I expect they are needed.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Intel High Definition Audio and its problems

2007-04-13 Thread Matthew R. Lee
On Friday 13 April 2007 06:52, Pongracz Istvan wrote:
 Hi,

 I have a Fujitsu Amilo laptop, which has a nice audio subsystem,
 called
 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High
 Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)

 I have some problems with it:
 no master volume, skype cannot use its microphone, even I can adjust the
 volume of the mic and I can hear my voice when I speak with echo123, but
 skype records no sound.

 I would like to know, does anybody have this kind of audio system and
 how to solve this kind of issue?

 I googled for a day, but there is no solution to my problem.

 Thank you,
 István


 Technical Details:

 gentoo-sources 2.6.20-r5, skype 1.3.0.53-r1, alsa-driver 1.0.14-rc3


I have kernel 2.6.18-r6, skype 1.3.0.53, alsa-driver 1.0.14-rc3

My audio works fine, it's not perfect, a bit quiet but good enough to listen 
to music or movies.  I've never managed to get my microphone to work with 
this sound card either, even though the microphone bars are there in 
alsamixer.  I solved the problem by buying a cheap little external usb sound 
card which I use exclusively for skype, it works fine.  You just have to set 
up a second sound card using usb-audio.  There's a page on the gentoo-forums 
on how to do it (it's for an actual skype phone, but the sound setup is much 
the same) 
http://forums.gentoo.org//viewtopic-t-390911-highlight-usb+phone.html

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Re: [gentoo-user] Intel High Definition Audio and its problems

2007-04-13 Thread Tony Stohne

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Pongracz Istvan said the following on 2007-04-13 12:52:
| ...
| localhost etc # arecord -l
|
|  List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices 
| ...
| card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 6: Si3054 Modem [Si3054 Modem]
|   Subdevices: 1/1
|   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
|
| localhost etc # aplay -l
|
|  List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
| ...
| card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 6: Si3054 Modem [Si3054 Modem]
|   Subdevices: 1/1
|   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
| localhost etc #
|
I have no personal experience with HDA Intel, but from the output above
it looks like what's happening is that the mixer is being set up for the
modem, and not the soundcard... although I might be wrong. Just a thought.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Diary tool?

2007-04-13 Thread Buffalo Dickens

Very nice tool!

2007/4/13, Andrea Bona [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Take a look at Zim.

Zim - a desktop wiki and outliner

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Re: [gentoo-user] Intel High Definition Audio and its problems

2007-04-13 Thread Elias Probst
On Friday 13 April 2007 12:52:01 Pongracz Istvan wrote:
 Hi,

 I have a Fujitsu Amilo laptop, which has a nice audio subsystem,
 called
 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High
 Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)

 I have some problems with it:
 no master volume, skype cannot use its microphone, even I can adjust the
 volume of the mic and I can hear my voice when I speak with echo123, but
 skype records no sound.

 I would like to know, does anybody have this kind of audio system and
 how to solve this kind of issue?

I have an HP/Compaq nx9420 with an Intel HDA Chipset and Skype/Mic. is working 
fine here.
I remember some troubles concerning KMix switching the capture LED of the 
Capture-Channel to off after 1-5 seconds, but IIRC it was working finally 
without any problems.

Will take a look at my configuration in ~4-5hours, when I'm at home.

Regards, Elias P.



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[gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Kellystewart00
What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
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Re: [gentoo-user] dr.dk

2007-04-13 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 13:35:16 +0200 Johannes Skov Frandsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I can't seem to play streaming radio from http://www.dr.dk. I followed
 one of the links from http://www.dr.dk/netradio/afspillere.asp, but
 totem just bitches about 'no uri handler implemented for mms:'.

Hm, mplayer likes those streams and plays them fine. So since AFAIK
totem uses gstreamer, I'd try using the gst-plugin-ffmpeg -- hopefully,
it includes the ASF demuxer (I think so), and, more important, makes
gstreamer aware of mms:-URLs (I'm not all that sure about this...).

 I then tried to install vlc, which went ok except I could only run it
 from the shell, and it wouldn't play the stream either.

What does went OK mean in this case?

 I have compile with the 'v4l' and 'v4l2' flag, as I expect they are
 needed.

I don't think that _video_ _input_ is related to _audio_ _output_.
Except of course if you were talking of making a video of yourself,
dancing towards the webcam while playing web radio songs :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Michael Sullivan
I'm 27 (I think).
On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 12:07 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:07:35 GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What is the average age of the gentoo user here?

Well, the automatically determined average age (measured by typing
speed, length of sentences and number of spelling errors as well as
number of started flamewars) is 12,78 years. But there's still a bug
hiding in the algorithm somewhere. See http://bugs.gentoo.org/ for all
the details.

Well, seriously: How do you think this could be determined?

 Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone

Aargh! This seems to be the new excuse for writing ridiculously
short mails w/o much information and background now. IMHO, a stupid
excuse.


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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Michael Sullivan wrote:
 I'm 27 (I think).

25 here, and using GNU/Linux since I was twelve. (late 1994).

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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 excuse.

BUT you provided a great, and funny but yet insightful answer. :P

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RE: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Wayne Oliver
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 Subject: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious
 
 What is the average age of the gentoo user here?

I'll bite, 27 - 28 using Linux since 1997 and Gentoo since 2002 I
think.


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[gentoo-user] Something changed with nice?

2007-04-13 Thread Mick
Hi All,

I am getting these errors in /root/dead.letter:
===
/etc/cron.weekly/makewhatis: line 5: /bin/nice: No such file or directory
/etc/cron.weekly/makewhatis: line 5: exec: /bin/nice: cannot execute: No such 
file or directory
===

Of course, I can only find /usr/bin/nice so that may make sense.  Is it a cron 
bug?
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Vikas Kumar
On 12:07 Fri 13 Apr , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
 Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone  

youngest among all the previous mailors, 23 -- 24 this may :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] dr.dk

2007-04-13 Thread Johannes Skov Frandsen
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 Hi,
 
 On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 13:35:16 +0200 Johannes Skov Frandsen
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I can't seem to play streaming radio from http://www.dr.dk. I followed
 one of the links from http://www.dr.dk/netradio/afspillere.asp, but
 totem just bitches about 'no uri handler implemented for mms:'.
 
 Hm, mplayer likes those streams and plays them fine. So since AFAIK
 totem uses gstreamer, I'd try using the gst-plugin-ffmpeg -- hopefully,
 it includes the ASF demuxer (I think so), and, more important, makes
 gstreamer aware of mms:-URLs (I'm not all that sure about this...).
 

I installed mplayer and I can now play the stream without problems.
Still wonder why I have no frontend for vlc and why it will not play the
streams thought.


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread mereandor
Am Freitag 13 April 2007 15:24 schrieb Vikas Kumar:
 On 12:07 Fri 13 Apr , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
  Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone

 youngest among all the previous mailors, 23 -- 24 this may :)

not anymore: 20
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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mereandor wrote:
 not anymore: 20

I still remember me answering I'm 15! and everybody would just laugh :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Fabrício L. Ribeiro

On 4/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What is the average age of the gentoo user here?



I'm 24 recently completed.


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Roman Zimmermann
Am Freitag 13 April 2007 15:42 schrieb Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman:
 mereandor wrote:
  not anymore: 20

 I still remember me answering I'm 15! and everybody would just laugh :)

In not using gentoo that long. Just started previous summer but learning 
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Roman Zimmermann wrote:
 In not using gentoo that long. Just started previous summer but learning 
 fast. ;)

Well, gentoo didn't exist 10 years ago, but yggdrasil and slackware did.

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RE: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Wayne Oliver
 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 13 April 2007 03:58
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 Roman Zimmermann wrote:
  In not using gentoo that long. Just started previous summer but
learning
  fast. ;)
 
 Well, gentoo didn't exist 10 years ago, but yggdrasil and slackware
did.

And Redhat, the first distro I managed to get my hangs on! 

Redhat 4 I believe it was? Ahhh a bit of Friday nostalgia


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Re: [gentoo-user] floppy flops: mtools vs file managers

2007-04-13 Thread David W Noon
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Philip Webb wrote:

 070411 David W Noon wrote:
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Philip Webb wrote:
[snip]
 I've added a line to  /etc/fstab :
   '/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy vfat noauto,user 0 0'
 I would have thought filesystem 'msdos' would make more sense,
 if all your floppies are FAT12.
 
 I've changed it, but it doesn't seem to make a difference.
 
 Further testing (all under KDE 3.5.6) reveals the following:
 Krusader needs to be root to write or delete diskette files;

Try adding umask=000 to your options list in /etc/fstab, just after user.
This allows world write on all files and directories, just like FAT12 has
always permitted.

Take a look at
  man 8 mount
and examine the section headed Mount options for fat. This offers other
options that allow you a less promiscuous approach to the security of the
data on your FAT floppies.

 Thunar mounts, writes  deletes ok,
 but there's a  35 sec  delay before the drive reacts
  to update the file list you have to 'unmount' the device, then reopen
 it;

That's the filesystem driver caching the data. Moreover, it looks like
Thunar might be using mtools behind the scenes.

 Dolphin doesn't seem able to handle the diskette drive reliably, 
 but it is still testing (Gentoo)  under active development (KDE).

I avoid unstable packages, especially when I am experimenting with hardware
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2007-04-13 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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Wayne Oliver wrote:
 Redhat 4 I believe it was? 

Redhat! Damn... that's good memories... it used to be the distro I used to show 
vulnerable systems
when I was a professor of IT Security at a local institute. Pretty funny.

 A bit of 13th Friday, actually. Bwahahaha.

Want nostalgia? Read something about BBSes...

http://www.buanzo.com.ar/lit/dead1.html

(until dead6.html, too).

And yes, this is officially fully offtopic.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Something changed with nice?

2007-04-13 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 14:07 +0100, Mick wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I am getting these errors in /root/dead.letter:
 ===
 /etc/cron.weekly/makewhatis: line 5: /bin/nice: No such file or
 directory
 /etc/cron.weekly/makewhatis: line 5: exec: /bin/nice: cannot execute:
 No such 
 file or directory
 ===
 
 Of course, I can only find /usr/bin/nice so that may make sense.  Is 
 
A quick look at the ChangeLog for coreutils reveals the following:

*coreutils-6.7-r1 (02 Jan 2007)

  02 Jan 2007; Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
+coreutils-6.7-r1.ebuild:
  Move binaries not really needed into /usr.

I don't have a /etc/cron.weekly/makewhatis, but my /etc/cron.daily/makewhatis 
says

exec nice makewhatis -u

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Francisco Rivas

Hi all...

I have 23! :D

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 Redhat 4 I believe it was?

Redhat! Damn... that's good memories... it used to be the distro I used to
show vulnerable systems
when I was a professor of IT Security at a local institute. Pretty funny.

 A bit of 13th Friday, actually. Bwahahaha.

Want nostalgia? Read something about BBSes...

http://www.buanzo.com.ar/lit/dead1.html

(until dead6.html, too).

And yes, this is officially fully offtopic.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

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[gentoo-user] Re: OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-04-13, Wayne Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In not using gentoo that long. Just started previous summer
 but learning fast. ;)
 
 Well, gentoo didn't exist 10 years ago, but yggdrasil and slackware
 did.

 And Redhat, the first distro I managed to get my hangs on! 

 Redhat 4 I believe it was? Ahhh a bit of Friday nostalgia

Youngster.  I started using RedHat at 2.1.  Before that I used
Slackware, SLS, and my first distro was...  Yggdrasil (I think
that was 1992).  I had to borrow a SCSI CD drive from a Sun
workstation at work to install Yggdrasil.

Before Yggdrasil I used a very nice Unix v7 clone called
Coherent from Mark Williams Co. (on both 286 and 386 machines).

IOW, I'm old.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Davi
Em Sexta 13 Abril 2007 11:36, Rodrigo Forlin escreveu:
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20, using Linux since 2000
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Re: [gentoo-user] console blanks permanantly

2007-04-13 Thread maxim wexler
 1) What exactly is error message at bootup?

No bootup errors. The error was a result of a missing
sym-link in /etc/runlevels. That's been fixed but it
did not solve the blanking problem.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Something changed with nice?

2007-04-13 Thread Mick
On Friday 13 April 2007 15:30, Albert Hopkins wrote:
 On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 14:07 +0100, Mick wrote:

  I am getting these errors in /root/dead.letter:
  ===
  /etc/cron.weekly/makewhatis: line 5: /bin/nice: No such file or
  directory
  /etc/cron.weekly/makewhatis: line 5: exec: /bin/nice: cannot execute:
  No such
  file or directory
  ===
 
 I don't have a /etc/cron.weekly/makewhatis, but my
 /etc/cron.daily/makewhatis says

 exec nice makewhatis -u

Hold on, I do not have a /etc/cron.weekly/makewhatis either!  My daily is just 
like yours.  Perhaps this is something to do with vixie-cron updated 
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[gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-13 Thread anhnmncb
hello,
  I heard of that using emerge --sync frequently may hert my hard-disk,
  so I don't have a try --sync quite often(maybe once a month), but how can I 
know whether I really
  need a sync and upgrade my system if a new kernel or glibc is realised? Is 
there a simple and quick method?

  Thank you for any advices.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-13 Thread Sascha Hlusiak
   I heard of that using emerge --sync frequently may hert my hard-disk,
   so I don't have a try --sync quite often(maybe once a month), but how can
 I know whether I really need a sync and upgrade my system if a new kernel
 or glibc is realised? Is there a simple and quick method?

You could have a look at packages.gentoo.org from time to time, to see the 
recently updated packages and if you like one, you can emerge --sync.

That's what I do to not sync, when there is no major upgrade.


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Re: [gentoo-user] more on the mysterious console blanking

2007-04-13 Thread maxim wexler
 Stupid questions but... have you tried booting a
 Gentoo livecd and see if you still have issues?

No issues w/ livecd.

 You sure the FB modules don't get loaded
 automagically? What about passing vga=normal (or
 other
 options) to the kernel command line?

Wow! A whole whack of them got loaded: cfbcopyarea,
cfbimgblt, cfbfillrect, fb, aty128fb, intel_agp,
agpgart. And under kernel drivers a lot more that
didn't load: macmodes, bitblit, softcursor etc. How
the heck did they get there? Macmodes? I didn't order
any macmodes.

So, went ahead and rmmod'd them except for the last
two:

aty128fb   17284  0
fb 30440  1 aty128fb
cfbcopyarea 3616  1 aty128fb
cfbimgblt   2688  1 aty128fb
cfbfillrect 3616  1 aty128fb
3c59x  37864  0
uhci_hcd   19848  0
usbcore   109956  2 uhci_hcd
intel_agp  20220  1
agpgart25136  1 intel_agp
localhost ~ # rmmod aty128fb
localhost ~ # rmmod fb
localhost ~ # rmmod cfbcopyarea
localhost ~ # rmmod cfbimgblt
localhost ~ # rmmod cfbfillrect
localhost ~ # rmmod intel_agp
ERROR: Module intel_agp is in use
localhost ~ # rmmod agpgart
ERROR: Module agpgart is in use by intel_agp
localhost ~ #

But it didn't help. Wh!

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Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-13 Thread Fabio

Well, when I started with Gentoo Linux almost a year ago, I emerged
--sync more than twice per week. I never experimented any damage or
error. However, I do not advise people to do it so frequently just
because they will not find updated versions of their favorite packages
as often as I thought initially. Today I emerge --sync once every
week.

Now I advise people to keep their systems synced at least once a
month, not because their machine necessarily needs to, but because
after much time with no emerging --sync, you'd see your computers
spending one or two days downloading and compiling the updated
packages, and that is really annoying.

Here is a suggestion to have painless updates:

emerge --sync
emerge --update --deep world

the --deep flag will ensure a throughly revision of dependencies.


How can I know whether I really need a sync and upgrade my system if a new 
kernel or glibc is released?


There are several guidelines no one really invented, but may be handy:
o Whenever you find a bug in your favorite programs, there will be a
big chance they are fixed in the latest versions;
o Whenever you navigate a forum or post in a mailing list asking for
help with your favorite programs, there is a low-to-moderate chance
you get the answer That only works with version x.x.x or above or so
o From time to time, new programs are added to the Portage tree and
someday you will find yourself wanting to give a try to a program you
do not have in your machines' tree.
o If you need to have your machine secured against vulnerabilities,
you definitely need to emerge --sync every two weeks at least.
o When a new kernel version is released, there is no need to update
everything. Actually, what I remember is that I just emerge the new
kernel version, compile and reboot.
o When a new glibc version is released, there is a number of packages
directly depending on it being updated, but no so many. So this one is
not really a guideline.

Sascha's method is easier. Credits to her.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Francisco Rivas

I was started with ESware 1.0, RedHat 5.1, Mandrake, then SuSE
6.3/7.x//9.x/10.x,
Debian (Woody and Sagre) and finally and so so so happy Gentoo... I feel
tempted to touch Arch Linux.

Please let me know who is happy with your distributions?... :D it's an
obvious question :D

I am :D

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20, using Linux since 2000
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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 Please let me know who is happy with your distributions?... :D it's an
 obvious question :D

Well, I love Gentoo very much. I also like SourceMage, Ubuntu (yeah, I can';t 
believe it) and I even
used ot love SuSE.

Damn, I even WORKED for Suse when they were still Suse and had offices in 
Argentina. Head consultant :P

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Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-13 Thread Ryan Sims

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hello,
  I heard of that using emerge --sync frequently may hert my hard-disk.


This sounds like juju.  Did your source provide numbers in support of
this conclusion, or is it just concern about hard drive thrashing?

If there is a documented causal relationship between too-often syncs
and hard drive failure, I (and probably lots of other people) would be
interested to see it.  Personally, I would be skeptical that even
daily syncs would do significant damage to a drive in good condition
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Re: [gentoo-user] Intel High Definition Audio and its problems

2007-04-13 Thread Pongracz Istvan
Thank you for you all guys!

I try to find out, how to separate modem and sound card.
Googling :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-13 Thread Daniel da Veiga

On 4/13/07, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 4/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hello,
   I heard of that using emerge --sync frequently may hert my hard-disk.

This sounds like juju.  Did your source provide numbers in support of
this conclusion, or is it just concern about hard drive thrashing?

If there is a documented causal relationship between too-often syncs
and hard drive failure, I (and probably lots of other people) would be
interested to see it.  Personally, I would be skeptical that even
daily syncs would do significant damage to a drive in good condition
(all other things being equal).



I have a setup with 3 machines, 1 with very OLD HDs. I'm behind a
firewall, so I can't use rsync protocol over the web, I download a
portage snapshot daily and use local rsync, the 2 other machines use
the one synced locally as rsync server over the lan.

Believe me, in 2 years I've seen no problem with my hard drives with a
daily sync. And the machines are all servers, so they're up pretty
much 24/7 (just reboot in case of power failure for more than 2 hours,
that's when the no-break goes off).

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread kashani

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What is the average age of the gentoo user here?


Looks like I'm coming in at the older end at 33.

Some SunOS on sparc5 in college and the IBM mainframe for the Fortran 
classes I took in '93. Installed BSD off floppies and a 28.8 modem in 
'96. Discovered Linux in '97 and kicked BSD to the curb shortly 
thereafter. Gentoo in 2002 and it's still my favorite distro.


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Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-13 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Friday 13 April 2007 17:46:42 Fabio wrote:
 Now I advise people to keep their systems synced at least once a
 month, not because their machine necessarily needs to, but because
 after much time with no emerging --sync, you'd see your computers
 spending one or two days downloading and compiling the updated
 packages, and that is really annoying.

Policy says that for a package to be removed from the tree it needs to be in 
package.mask for 30 days. Therefore if you sync less often than every 30 days 
you risk that a package you are using gets removed without you ever seeing 
the masking (and later removal) reason.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Intel High Definition Audio and its problems

2007-04-13 Thread Matthew R. Lee
On Friday 13 April 2007 10:18, Pongracz Istvan wrote:
 Thank you for you all guys!

 I try to find out, how to separate modem and sound card.
 Googling :)

 IStván

If you find anything new post it to the list.  I think there are plenty of 
people with similar problems

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Re: [gentoo-user] more on the mysterious console blanking FIXED

2007-04-13 Thread maxim wexler
 OK. Reconfigure your kernel. Make sure the one you
 config is the one you install and tell grub/lilo
 to boot.

Ah! C'est ca!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Intel High Definition Audio and its problems

2007-04-13 Thread Elias Probst
On Friday 13 April 2007 14:06:55 Elias Probst wrote:
 I have an HP/Compaq nx9420 with an Intel HDA Chipset and Skype/Mic. is
 working fine here.
 I remember some troubles concerning KMix switching the capture LED of the
 Capture-Channel to off after 1-5 seconds, but IIRC it was working finally
 without any problems.

 Will take a look at my configuration in ~4-5hours, when I'm at home.

I'm using:
Kernel: 2.6.19-suspend2-r3
media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.14_rc3 (ALSA_CARDS=hda-intel)

/etc/modules.d/alsa:
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
alias sound-slot-0 snd-hda-intel

I've attached screenshots of KMix, so take a look, which switches are 
en-/disabled.

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] more on the mysterious console blanking FIXED

2007-04-13 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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[gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Sven Braun

Hi,

i'm 15 years old, using Linux since 2004/2005, started with Suse,
Debian and now i'm on Gentoo - and very happy :)

On 4/13/07, kashani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What is the average age of the gentoo user here?

Looks like I'm coming in at the older end at 33.

Some SunOS on sparc5 in college and the IBM mainframe for the Fortran
classes I took in '93. Installed BSD off floppies and a 28.8 modem in
'96. Discovered Linux in '97 and kicked BSD to the curb shortly
thereafter. Gentoo in 2002 and it's still my favorite distro.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:46:42 -0500, Fabio wrote:

 Well, when I started with Gentoo Linux almost a year ago, I emerged
 --sync more than twice per week. I never experimented any damage or
 error.

I have a system here that rsyncs with three other computers every hour
and the disk is still good after several years, so the traffic
from a paltry portage sync should do nothing but give the disk a
little healthy exercise.

 However, I do not advise people to do it so frequently just
 because they will not find updated versions of their favorite packages
 as often as I thought initially.

Unless they run a ~ARCH system, when packages are updated far more
frequently.

 Here is a suggestion to have painless updates:
 
 emerge --sync
 emerge --update --deep world

I would add --ask the the latter command to further reduce the chance of
pain. Replacing a week or two's worth of packages without even checking
to see whether anything important is going to be touched is asking for
trouble.


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Mauro Faccenda
On Friday 13 April 2007 10:06, Wayne Oliver wrote:
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  Subject: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious
 
  What is the average age of the gentoo user here?

 I'll bite, 27 - 28 using Linux since 1997 and Gentoo since 2002 I
 think.

exactly the same here ;)

started with conectiva, then redhat... tryied mandrake, suse, debian, backup 
to redhat, fedora... and finally, gentoo...

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Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-13 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 18:45:04 +0100
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:46:42 -0500, Fabio wrote:
 
  Well, when I started with Gentoo Linux almost a year ago, I emerged
  --sync more than twice per week. I never experimented any damage or
  error.
 
 I have a system here that rsyncs with three other computers every hour
 and the disk is still good after several years, so the traffic
 from a paltry portage sync should do nothing but give the disk a
 little healthy exercise.

I like this theory. I think bad blocks on HD's (and I guess noone here
is talking about flash disks or writable DVD media) occur almost
independent of usage. So if bad blocks occur, there might be a big
chance that it happens in a portage sync simply because there's a lot
of file writing/deleting and thus there's a bigger chance that it
happens in that moments. If that was true, it is likely that the errors
hit portage's files with a probability that corresponds to the
percentage of sync (and due to the test: emerge) I/O vs. general IO.
On a gentoo system, there's probably a lot of disk I/O simply because
of portage. This might explain why there's that feeling that a sync
might hurt.

And, the good side of things: If this theory holds valid, the errors
are likely to hit portage -- not all that bad, a resync and
everything's fine again :-) The harddisk will cure the problem by
allocating spare sectors (as long as available).

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[gentoo-user] Packet Shaping

2007-04-13 Thread Grant

Hello, I have packet shaping set up on my Gentoo router with iptables,
shorewall, and The Wonder Shaper which is a /etc/shorewall/tcstart
file.  It seems to be working since internet radio is now full of
hiccups.  :)

I'd like to configure it to prioritize voip, ssh, web browsing,
bittorrent downloads, and bittorrent uploads in that order.  I'm using
these docs:

http://www.shorewall.net/2.0/traffic_shaping.htm
http://lartc.org/wondershaper/

since this doesn't include shorewall config info:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Packet_Shaping

Is anyone else using The Wonder Shaper?  Would anyone recommend I
ditch it and write a tcstart file from scratch?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packet Shaping

2007-04-13 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:24:03 -0700
Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello, I have packet shaping set up on my Gentoo router with iptables,
 shorewall, and The Wonder Shaper which is a /etc/shorewall/tcstart
 file.  It seems to be working since internet radio is now full of
 hiccups.  :)

I never quite understood ingress shaping. Dropping packets always
sounded wrong to me...

 Is anyone else using The Wonder Shaper?  Would anyone recommend I
 ditch it and write a tcstart file from scratch?

No, just edit it (more than those variables on the top). wshaper is
really not that big, well structured and at least somewhat documented.
It makes a good template.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Nistor Andrei
On Friday 13 April 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
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I'm 17 :D First tasted linux back in the days of RedHat 7.3 (I think) Then 
dual-booted with windows until 4 years ago when linux became the only OS 
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Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-13 Thread Dan Farrell
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 23:05:55 +
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 hello,
   I heard of that using emerge --sync frequently may hert my
 hard-disk, so I don't have a try --sync quite often(maybe once a
 month), but how can I know whether I really need a sync and upgrade
 my system if a new kernel or glibc is realised? Is there a simple and
 quick method?
 
   Thank you for any advices.
 
My home portage server - up 24/7 - syncs daily and is just fine.
Furthermore, rsync is just another program, accessing the hard drive in
the same old way, and isn't a very effective way of breaking hard
drives.  Anyway, if you're worried about your hard drive, try setting
it up to spin down frequently with hdparm when not in use.  That can
extend the life expectancy of commodity drives especially -- many
consumer-end disk drives are not meant to spin more than 8 hours or so
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Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-13 Thread Neil Walker

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  I heard of that using emerge --sync frequently may hert my hard-disk


My network server has been doing a daily emerge --sync for 4 years 
now. Hasn't died yet. FWIW, simply running Windows puts far more strain 
on the HD than doing a daily sync in Gentoo ever will. Just watch the HD 
LED on a Windows system that isn't even doing anything sometime.



Be lucky,

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Re: [gentoo-user] dr.dk

2007-04-13 Thread Jan-Hendrik Zab
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:33:07 +0200
Johannes Skov Frandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I installed mplayer and I can now play the stream without problems.
 Still wonder why I have no frontend for vlc and why it will not play the
 streams thought.

VLC was most likely not compiled with the wxwindows USE-Flag.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Intel High Definition Audio and its problems

2007-04-13 Thread Pongracz Istvan
2007. 04. 13, péntek keltezéssel 13.13-kor Matthew R. Lee ezt írta:
 If you find anything new post it to the list.  I think there are plenty of 
 people with similar problems
 
 Matt

Yes, I will. I found lot of problems with this kind of sound card, even
with windows xp.

An other interesting thing: how to use the modem :)
I installed slmodem, seems working, but not tested yet.

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Dale


I'm 39.  I'm not the oldest but I feel like I am.  I started with
Mandrake.  After trying to upgrade, I switched to Gentoo.  I have never
had windoze on any of my machines.  Not once.   Never had a need to either.

Dale

P. S.  If you are paying by the byte, good luck on the phone bill.  :/

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Francisco Rivas

I am so glad of found people who is happy with their SO.

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On Friday 13 April 2007 10:06, Wayne Oliver wrote:
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  To: Gentoo List
  Subject: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious
 
  What is the average age of the gentoo user here?

 I'll bite, 27 - 28 using Linux since 1997 and Gentoo since 2002 I
 think.

exactly the same here ;)

started with conectiva, then redhat... tryied mandrake, suse, debian,
backup
to redhat, fedora... and finally, gentoo...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Intel High Definition Audio and its problems

2007-04-13 Thread Mauro Faccenda
On Friday 13 April 2007 07:52, Pongracz Istvan wrote:
 Hi,

 I have a Fujitsu Amilo laptop, which has a nice audio subsystem,
 called
 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High
 Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)

mine is a
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) 
High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)

i had to compile the snd-hda-intel as module and add the following line 
in /etc/modules.d/alsa:
options snd-hda-intel model=6stack-digout position_fix=1 index=0

now it works pretty fine.

with skype, i configured it to use OSS. don't know exactly why, but it works 
fine.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Larry Lines
I'm 37.  Started with Redhat in 1999, then Debian and then Gentoo in
2002.  

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread b.n.

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What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
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I'm 26.
(By the way, it seems that Gentoo is a really young distro! I thought 
the average was in the 30's, but I find myself to be on the average)


If some more people join the stat, I'd build an histogram.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread david
I'm 51, I have been using Gentoo since 2002.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Graham Murray
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm 39.  I'm not the oldest but I feel like I am.

Do not feel the oldest any more, I am 49. I started Linux with SuSE and
prior to that used OS/2. The last version of Windows I used personally
(as opposed to at work, though now even at work I almost exclusively
use, and program, Linux) was Windows-386.
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Re: [gentoo-user] dr.dk

2007-04-13 Thread Kristian Poul Herkild
Johannes Skov Frandsen skrev:
 Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 13:35:16 +0200 Johannes Skov Frandsen
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I can't seem to play streaming radio from http://www.dr.dk. I followed
 one of the links from http://www.dr.dk/netradio/afspillere.asp, but
 totem just bitches about 'no uri handler implemented for mms:'.
 Hm, mplayer likes those streams and plays them fine. So since AFAIK
 totem uses gstreamer, I'd try using the gst-plugin-ffmpeg -- hopefully,
 it includes the ASF demuxer (I think so), and, more important, makes
 gstreamer aware of mms:-URLs (I'm not all that sure about this...).
 
 
 I installed mplayer and I can now play the stream without problems.
 Still wonder why I have no frontend for vlc and why it will not play the
 streams thought.
 
 

In order to get VLC with a graphical front end you need to enable the
USE flag wxwindows for VLC. Add it to /etc/portage/package.use

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Anthony E. Caudel
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I'm 64.

Gentoo since 1999.  I started with CP/M on a processor Technology SOL-20
in 1979 or 1980.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

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Re: [gentoo-user] create an installable custom distro with gentoo?

2007-04-13 Thread Pongracz Istvan
2007. 04. 13, péntek keltezéssel 23.16-kor b.n. ezt írta:
 Hi,
 
 I have looked a bit for this but I've found nothing.

 However I'd like to see some tutorial/advice/whatever about it.
 
 m.

Hi,

Try out catalyst, which is part of portage.
It is easy to create a custom own livecd.

From livecd, you can rsync its content (from /mnt/livecd/) to hdd and
you can customize.
For example my distribution is a customized livecd, which is capable
to install it to hdd (i686 optimized) and focused to server
functionalities. 
ftp://ftp.linuxforum.hu/magenta/releases/x86/livecd
here you can see glivecd.0.0.1.iso

The learning curve is funny ;)
With catalyst, you can make uptodate stages etc.
It is a really great tool. Everybody able to make an own release :)

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[gentoo-user] Re: OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-04-13, Anthony E. Caudel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
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 I'm 64.

 Gentoo since 1999.  I started with CP/M on a processor
 Technology SOL-20 in 1979 or 1980.

That brings back memories. A SOL-20 was the first microcomputer
computer I used.  I believe it was 1980.  48K of RAM and two 8
Pertec floppy drives.  Before you could boot CP/M from a
floppy, you had to load a bootloader from cassette tape.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Any consequences to package.mask'ing newer kernels?

2007-04-13 Thread Anthony E. Caudel
Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 01:33:43 +0200, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
 
 At around 300MB per kernel, that's ten excess kernels, so you can't
 be doing it that often. Once you're happy with the current kernel,
 you only need emerge -P gentoo-sources to remove the rest. I use
 a script that removes all but the last two, and also cleans
 out /lib/modules and /boot.  
 Neil, any chance we could get that script?  
 Provided you have gentoolkit something as simple as this works:

 # emerge -Cva $(equery -q list gentoo-sources | head -n -2)
 
 That only cleans out /usr/src, it's slightly different to what I use
 (which rm's the directories first to speed things up) but does basically
 the same. You also need to clear out /lib/modules and /boot with
 
 Here's the script I use, which is guaranteed to work when it doesn't
 fail. When it does break, you can keep the pieces.
 
 #!/bin/bash
 
 # clean /lib/modules
 cd /lib/modules
 ls -1rt | head -n -2 | xargs --no-run-if-empty rm -fr
 
 # clean /boot
 grep --quiet /boot /etc/fstab  mount /boot -o remount,rw
 
 cd /boot
 ls -1rt config-* | head -n -2 | while read f; do
   bzip2 -9 $f
   mv $f.bz2 oldconfigs/
   done
 
 ls -1rt System.map-* | head -n -2 | xargs --no-run-if-empty rm -f
 if [ -f vmlinux ]; then
   ls -1rt vmlinux-* | head -n -2 | xargs --no-run-if-empty rm -f
 else
   ls -1rt vmlinuz-* | head -n -2 | xargs --no-run-if-empty rm -f 
   fi
 
 # clean /usr/src
 cd /usr/src
 ls -1drt linux-* | head -n -2 | xargs --no-run-if-empty rm -fr
 equery --quiet --nocolor list --duplicates gentoo-sources | awk '{print $1}' 
 | head -n -2 | xargs --no-run-if-empty emerge --unmerge /dev/null
 
 grep --quiet /boot /etc/fstab  mount /boot -o remount,ro
 # END
 
 The vmlinuz/vmlinux stuff is because I have a PPC system too, which calls the 
 kernel vmlinux.
 
 

Thanks Neil.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Colleen Beamer
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Don't know what the average age is, but I'm 58.  I've been using Linux
since 1999.  I first used Redhat/Fedora, have tried Mandrake (now
Mandriva), Ubuntu/Kubuntu and Gentoo since 2004.  Too many pluses with
Gentoo for me to use anything else now.

Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Vernon A. Fort

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What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
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I'm 42, linux user since 1988 (slackware) then redhat 4.2 through 9.0 
then fedora core.  Got burned out doing constant  upgrades and 
discovered Gentoo in spring of 04.  Installed my first production server 
in late summer of 04 and its still running.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Vernon A. Fort

Vernon A. Fort wrote:

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What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
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I'm 42, linux user since 1988 (slackware) then redhat 4.2 through 9.0 
then fedora core.  Got burned out doing constant  upgrades and 
discovered Gentoo in spring of 04.  Installed my first production 
server in late summer of 04 and its still running.

Correction, it was 91 on the Linux - Xenix on an old Tandy in 88.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Dan Farrell
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 19:14:32 -0500
Vernon A. Fort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Vernon A. Fort wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
  Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone  _éí¢‹¬z¸žÚ(¢¸j)bžbst==
  I'm 42, linux user since 1988 (slackware) then redhat 4.2 through
  9.0 then fedora core.  Got burned out doing constant  upgrades and 
  discovered Gentoo in spring of 04.  Installed my first production 
  server in late summer of 04 and its still running.
 Correction, it was 91 on the Linux - Xenix on an old Tandy in 88.
 
 Vernon
Ah, that explains how you were running linux before it was invented ; )


I'm 23, and only have been running gentoo since 2002.  I didn't
have a computer back when the internet was cool and stuff.  It's funny,
on the forums I feel like more of a gentoo veteran but on the mailing
list I feel like a newbie.  Im beginning to see why.  
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[gentoo-user] Re: WLAN daemon?

2007-04-13 Thread Sven Köhler
 is there any WLAN daemon that scans for wireless LANs and loggs into
 them, if he finds one, that i prefer?
 
 Maybe wifi-radar fits your needs!

I think, it's just an application - a frontend. What i would prefer,
is really a daemon running as root in background, scanning for networks,
loggin into them, etc.



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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Friday 13 April 2007 23:36:29 Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
 Gentoo since 1999.

Really? I was under the impression the first release went out in 2002. Of 
course it could be installed before that but '99?

(and yeah, I'm 24).

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[gentoo-user] lib w/o a package?

2007-04-13 Thread Daniel Iliev
Hi, list!

It appears I have a lib (gdbm.so) left behind by some removed package.
Could somebody, please, tell me which package does this file belong to?



revdep-rebuild -X -i -pv
Configuring search environment for revdep-rebuild

Checking reverse dependencies...

Packages containing binaries and libraries broken by a package update
will be emerged.

Collecting system binaries and libraries... done.
  (/root/.revdep-rebuild.1_files)

Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH... done.
  (/root/.revdep-rebuild.2_ldpath)

Checking dynamic linking consistency...
  broken /usr/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/gdbm.so (requires  libgdbm.so.3)
 done.
  (/root/.revdep-rebuild.3_rebuild)

Assigning files to packages...
  *** /usr/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/gdbm.so not owned by any package is
broken! ***
  /usr/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/gdbm.so - (none)
 done.
  (/root/.revdep-rebuild.4_packages_raw,
/root/.revdep-rebuild.4_package_owners)

Cleaning list of packages to rebuild... done.
  (/root/.revdep-rebuild.4_packages)

Assigning packages to ebuilds... Nothing to rebuild

Evaluating package order... done.
  (/root/.revdep-rebuild.5_order)

Dynamic linking on your system is consistent... All done.

=
 equery b gdbm.so and qfile gdbm.so give nothing.
=
file /usr/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/gdbm.so
/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/gdbm.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object,
Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), stripped
=

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Re: [gentoo-user] Something changed with nice?

2007-04-13 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 15:59 +0100, Mick wrote:
 On Friday 13 April 2007 15:30, Albert Hopkins wrote:
  On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 14:07 +0100, Mick wrote:
 
   I am getting these errors in /root/dead.letter:
   ===
   /etc/cron.weekly/makewhatis: line 5: /bin/nice: No such file or
   directory
   /etc/cron.weekly/makewhatis: line 5: exec: /bin/nice: cannot execute:
   No such
   file or directory
   ===
  
  I don't have a /etc/cron.weekly/makewhatis, but my
  /etc/cron.daily/makewhatis says
 
  exec nice makewhatis -u
 
 Hold on, I do not have a /etc/cron.weekly/makewhatis either!  My daily is 
 just 
 like yours.  Perhaps this is something to do with vixie-cron updated 
 yesterday.  Do I need to do anything about it?

Your email says /etc/cron.weekly so it must have existed at the time it
was generated.  I've never seen a makewhatis in /etc/cron.weekly

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Re: [gentoo-user] lib w/o a package?

2007-04-13 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 05:02 +0300, Daniel Iliev wrote:
 It appears I have a lib (gdbm.so) left behind by some removed
 package.
 Could somebody, please, tell me which package does this file belong
 to?

A slightly educated guess would be the gdbm package, though you'd
think it would be named libgdbm.so as opposed to gdbm.so.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread dsewnr
Nistor Andrei wrote:
 On Friday 13 April 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
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 I'm 17 :D First tasted linux back in the days of RedHat 7.3 (I think) Then 
 dual-booted with windows until 4 years ago when linux became the only OS 
 living inside my PC.

   
HI,
I'm 22 years old, I've used Linux about half year since 2006,
Windows XP  Ubuntu  Fedora Core  Debian  and now I'm using Gentoo.
What a good operation system Gentoo is :P
I very very like it !

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread Statux
On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 11:06 +0800, dsewnr wrote:
 HI,
 I'm 22 years old, I've used Linux about half year since 2006,
 Windows XP  Ubuntu  Fedora Core  Debian  and now I'm using Gentoo.
 What a good operation system Gentoo is :P
 I very very like it !

As for me, I'm 26. I first used an early version of Slackware back in late
1996 but didn't use Linux full time until 1998 when I grabbed a copy of
RedHat 5.1 and replaced my NT4W install. From that point I upgraded RedHat
every other version (which worked out to be once a year) until RedHat
underwent internal changes and Fedora was born. I chose not to go that
course and instead, I switched over to Gentoo (stage 1 installs are always
fun) which I have been using ever since.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007/4/14, dsewnr [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Nistor Andrei wrote:
 On Friday 13 April 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
 Sent via BlackBerry(r) from Vodafone


 I'm 17 :D First tasted linux back in the days of RedHat 7.3 (I think)
Then
 dual-booted with windows until 4 years ago when linux became the only OS
 living inside my PC.


HI,
I'm 22 years old, I've used Linux about half year since 2006,
Windows XP  Ubuntu  Fedora Core  Debian  and now I'm using Gentoo.
What a good operation system Gentoo is :P


  ^
Sorry for my poor  english,  it 's operating  *NOT* operation :p

I very very like it !


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Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: problem :eht0 not getting detected

2007-04-13 Thread agam gupta

as suggested
i tried ifconfig -a but that didint  work...



On 4/11/07, Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:26:51 -0700
Joshua Doll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On 4/11/07, Richard Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Well specifically what kind of realtek ethernet card is it.  A
  quick count in my kernel config showed 3 different drivers for
  realtek.  You might want to try modprobing the other ones and see
  if that brings it up.
 
  On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 11:34:28AM -0700, agam gupta wrote:
   hello
  
   i have recently started with gentoo.
   there is a problem
   my eth0 is not there in ifconfig (lo is only there ) .used ispci
   it
  showed
   realtek.
   used modprobe-l |grep rtl
   it gives rtl8150.ko
   the on modprobing rtl8150  it gets loaded
   but
   on ifconfig there is no eth0
  
   what should i do ? please help
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 what about ifconfig -a? I sometimes run into a problem where udev
 remaps the ethernet device.

'ifconfig -a' will also list interfaces that haven't yet been
configured (for example, no ip address).  Just 'ifconfig' will only
list interfaces that are up.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: problem :eht0 not getting detected

2007-04-13 Thread Dan Farrell
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:34:05 -0700
agam gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 as suggested
  i tried ifconfig -a but that didint  work...

have you tried other realtek drivers from the kernel yet?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Intel High Definition Audio and its problems and experiencesGi

2007-04-13 Thread Roman Zimmermann
Hi!

I have a similar card in my lenovo laptop. At first my mic did not work 
either, but then I found something:

My resolution was:
Try alsamixer -V all you will then be provided with more channels and 
hopefully a capture device. There you have to push space so CAPTURE appears 
in red. The same for the mic. Then unmute and turn up the capture and the mic 
device.

Hopefully this works for you too.

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Re: [gentoo-user] lib w/o a package?

2007-04-13 Thread Dan Farrell
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:19:38 -0500
Albert Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 05:02 +0300, Daniel Iliev wrote:
  It appears I have a lib (gdbm.so) left behind by some removed
  package.
  Could somebody, please, tell me which package does this file belong
  to?
 
 A slightly educated guess would be the gdbm package, though you'd
 think it would be named libgdbm.so as opposed to gdbm.so.
  
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equery takes the guesswork out of package manangement:
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ equery belongs gdbm.so
| [ Searching for file(s) gdbm.so in *... ]
| dev-lang/python-2.4.3-r4 (/usr/lib64/python2.4/lib-dynload/gdbm.so)
| dev-lang/ruby-1.8.5_p2 (/usr/lib64/ruby/1.8/x86_64-linux/gdbm.so)
your results may differ.  Specifically, I don't think it lists
packages that aren't installed -- but I may be wrong.  note also that
you can check to see why you need them...
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ for i in python ruby; do equery depends $i; done
| [ Searching for packages depending on python... ]
| app-editors/vim-7.0.174 (python? dev-lang/python)
| app-emulation/cedega-5.2.3 (=dev-lang/python-2.3)
| app-office/openoffice-2.0.4 (=dev-lang/python-2.3.4)
| app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.3-r1 (=dev-lang/python-2.0)
| app-text/gnome-doc-utils-0.8.0 (=dev-lang/python-2)
| ...
| media-gfx/gimp-2.2.12 (python? =dev-lang/python-2.2)
| media-gfx/graphviz-2.8-r2 (python? dev-lang/python)
| net-p2p/bittornado-0.3.18 (virtual/python)
| (=dev-lang/python-2.1)
|  sci-libs/gdal-1.3.1 (virtual/python)
|   (python? dev-lang/python)
| sys-apps/file-4.20-r1 (virtual/python)
| s-apps/portage-2.1.2.2 (=dev-lang/python-2.3)
| sys-libs/cracklib-2.8.9-r1 (python? dev-lang/python)
| sys-libs/libcap-1.10-r5 (!nocxx  python? =virtual/python-2.2.1)
| [ Searching for packages depending on ruby... ]
| app-editors/vim-7.0.174 (ruby? virtual/ruby)
| dev-lang/swig-1.3.25 (ruby? virtual/ruby)
| dev-ruby/ruby-config-0.3.1 (virtual/ruby)
| media-gfx/graphviz-2.8-r2 (ruby? dev-lang/ruby)
| media-sound/amarok-1.4.5-r1 (=dev-lang/ruby-1.8*)

so you can see here how I can see whether I want these files.  Finally,
i mention revdep-rebuild.  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ revdep-rebuild
| Configuring search environment for revdep-rebuild
| Checking reverse dependencies...
| Packages containing binaries and libraries broken by a package update
| will be emerged.
| Collecting system binaries and libraries... done.
| (/home/dan/.revdep-rebuild.1_files)
| Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH... done.
| (/home/dan/.revdep-rebuild.2_ldpath)
| Checking dynamic linking consistency...
| done.
|  (/home/dan/.revdep-rebuild.3_rebuild)
|
| Assigning files to ebuilds... Nothing to rebuild
|
| Evaluating package order... done.
|  (/home/dan/.revdep-rebuild.5_order)
|
| Dynamic linking on your system is consistent... All done. 

you can then do an 
| emerge --depclean
and clear out your dependancies.  I like to do another revdep rebuild
just to make sure at the end.
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Re: [gentoo-user] lib w/o a package?

2007-04-13 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Saturday 14 April 2007 07:23:59 Dan Farrell wrote:
 equery takes the guesswork out of package manangement:
 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ equery belongs gdbm.so
 | [ Searching for file(s) gdbm.so in *... ]
 | dev-lang/python-2.4.3-r4 (/usr/lib64/python2.4/lib-dynload/gdbm.so)
 | dev-lang/ruby-1.8.5_p2 (/usr/lib64/ruby/1.8/x86_64-linux/gdbm.so)

 your results may differ.  Specifically, I don't think it lists
 packages that aren't installed -- but I may be wrong.

Indeed there exists no authoritative source that can be used to show that if 
no package on your system claims to own a given file...

http://www.rommel.stw.uni-erlangen.de/~fejf/cgi-bin/pfs-web.pl is the closest 
you can get currently..

 note also that you can check to see why you need them...

Although those results aren't always entirely reliable (as I've explained at 
length before on this list).

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