[gentoo-user] gentoo rebuild, cups won't work

2008-01-27 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I'm rebuilding a broken gentoo, taken down by hard drive failure.
Most things are working well, but printing just won't go.

Attpempts to print are accepted, but not printed.  lpstat -t shows the
attached printer is disabled.  Re-enabling only works until the next job
is submitted.  It has reported a variety of reasons, such as Page not
Found (whatever that means).
Or some thing about back end failure.  Or no reason stated at all.

I've got my old config files, so I was prepared for things to Just Work.
They don't.
I do not have my old world file, so I may be missing a piece.

I've installed cups and hplip.  I cannot follow the Gentoo printing guide,
because that worthy
document requires me to add hplip to the default runlevel, but hplip does
not put anything in
/etc/init.d.  My printer is an old HP Laserjet 4M, which I usually run as a
Postscrpt printer.

What have I missed?

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


[gentoo-user] location of update-grub

2008-01-28 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I'm rebuilding my gentoo.  I liked having the update-grub script polish off
kernel installs, but I cannot seem to locate it.
Somebody who has it please tell me what package it's in.

++ kevin

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo rebuild, cups won't work

2008-02-02 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Feb 1, 2008 2:26 AM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dave Jones wrote:
  Hi Kevin
 
  Kevin O'Gorman wrote on 27/01/08 19:58:
 
  I've installed cups and hplip.  I cannot follow the Gentoo printing
  guide, because that worthy document requires me to add hplip to the
  default runlevel, but hplip does not put anything in /etc/init.d.  My
  printer is an old HP Laserjet 4M, which I usually run as a Postscrpt
  printer.
 
 
 
  What have I missed?
 
 
  Run hp-setup
 
  You'll probably need to rework your cups config files if you've retained
  them from the broken install.  hp-setup should enable local printing OK.
 
  /etc/init.d/hplip is no longer necessary with recent hplip ebuilds.
 
  Cheers, Dave
 

 And if it still gives you problems, delete /etc/cups then reemerge
 cups.  I had to do that last part too.

 Dale


The problem is that my printer is on the LPT port (/dev/lp0), and hp-setup
does
not find it.  In fact it has an option for LPT printers, but it is greyed
out.

The printer is really there: I can print by cat printme /dev/lp0 with a
suitably formed printme file (lines need CR, file ends with ^L^D).

++ kevin


-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo rebuild, cups won't work

2008-02-02 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Feb 2, 2008 10:18 AM, Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Feb 1, 2008 2:26 AM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Dave Jones wrote:
   Hi Kevin
  
   Kevin O'Gorman wrote on 27/01/08 19:58:
  
   I've installed cups and hplip.  I cannot follow the Gentoo printing
   guide, because that worthy document requires me to add hplip to the
   default runlevel, but hplip does not put anything in /etc/init.d.  My
   printer is an old HP Laserjet 4M, which I usually run as a Postscrpt
   printer.
  
  
  
   What have I missed?
  
  
   Run hp-setup
  
   You'll probably need to rework your cups config files if you've
  retained
   them from the broken install.  hp-setup should enable local printing
  OK.
  
   /etc/init.d/hplip is no longer necessary with recent hplip ebuilds.
  
   Cheers, Dave
  
 
  And if it still gives you problems, delete /etc/cups then reemerge
  cups.  I had to do that last part too.
 
  Dale
 

 The problem is that my printer is on the LPT port (/dev/lp0), and hp-setup
 does
 not find it.  In fact it has an option for LPT printers, but it is greyed
 out.

 The printer is really there: I can print by cat printme /dev/lp0 with a
 suitably formed printme file (lines need CR, file ends with ^L^D).

 ++ kevin


Hmmm.  Digging slightly deeper, I found the /usr/bin/hp-probe program.  It
lets me
specifically request a probe of LPT, but finds nothing there.  The printer
remains
attached.  I'm even more deeply stumped than before.

++ kevin



-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo rebuild, cups won't work

2008-02-02 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Feb 2, 2008 1:01 PM, Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Kevin

 Kevin O'Gorman wrote on 02/02/08 19:31:

  I've installed cups and hplip.  I cannot follow the Gentoo
  printing guide, because that worthy document requires me to add
  hplip to the default runlevel, but hplip does not put anything in
  /etc/init.d.  My printer is an old HP Laserjet 4M, which I
  usually run as a Postscrpt printer.

  What have I missed?

  Run hp-setup

  You'll probably need to rework your cups config files if you've
  retained them from the broken install.  hp-setup should enable
  local printing OK.

  And if it still gives you problems, delete /etc/cups then reemerge
  cups.  I had to do that last part too.

  The problem is that my printer is on the LPT port (/dev/lp0), and
  hp-setup does not find it.  In fact it has an option for LPT
  printers, but it is greyed out.

  The printer is really there: I can print by cat printme /dev/lp0
  with a suitably formed printme file (lines need CR, file ends with
  ^L^D).

  Hmmm.  Digging slightly deeper, I found the /usr/bin/hp-probe
  program. It lets me specifically request a probe of LPT, but finds
  nothing there.  The printer remains attached.  I'm even more deeply
  stumped than before.

 Try: hp-setup -i /dev/parport0

 See if that helps.

 Try hp-setup -hfor other options.

 I take it that your kernel has parallel port support generated, and that
 you have file permission to access /dev/lp0 ?

 Cheers, Dave
 --
 gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list


It runs, but only gives me options for usb and net.  This makes some sense
since there
are no /dev/parport* entries in my system.

Nevertheless, I have parallel port support as I understand it.  From my
kernel (2.6.22-gentoo-r6) .config file:

#
# Generic Driver Options
#
CONFIG_STANDALONE=y
CONFIG_PREVENT_FIRMWARE_BUILD=y
CONFIG_FW_LOADER=m
# CONFIG_SYS_HYPERVISOR is not set
# CONFIG_CONNECTOR is not set
# CONFIG_MTD is not set
CONFIG_PARPORT=yparallel port
CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=y  PC style
# CONFIG_PARPORT_SERIAL is not set
# CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_FIFO is not set
# CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_SUPERIO is not set
# CONFIG_PARPORT_GSC is not set
# CONFIG_PARPORT_AX88796 is not set
CONFIG_PARPORT_1284=y
CONFIG_PNP=y
# CONFIG_PNP_DEBUG is not set

Thanks for the help.

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo rebuild, cups won't work WORKAROUND (i.e. mysteriously solved)

2008-02-03 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Feb 3, 2008 4:27 AM, Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kevin O'Gorman wrote on 02/02/08 22:26:

   I've installed cups and hplip.  I cannot follow the Gentoo
   printing guide, because that worthy document requires me to add
   hplip to the default runlevel, but hplip does not put anything
 in
   /etc/init.d.  My printer is an old HP Laserjet 4M, which I
   usually run as a Postscrpt printer.
 
   What have I missed?
 
   Run hp-setup
 
   You'll probably need to rework your cups config files if you've
   retained them from the broken install.  hp-setup should enable
   local printing OK.
 
   And if it still gives you problems, delete /etc/cups then
 reemerge
   cups.  I had to do that last part too.
 
   The problem is that my printer is on the LPT port (/dev/lp0), and
   hp-setup does not find it.  In fact it has an option for LPT
   printers, but it is greyed out.
 
   The printer is really there: I can print by cat printme
 /dev/lp0
   with a suitably formed printme file (lines need CR, file ends
 with
   ^L^D).
 
   Hmmm.  Digging slightly deeper, I found the /usr/bin/hp-probe
   program. It lets me specifically request a probe of LPT, but finds
   nothing there.  The printer remains attached.  I'm even more
 deeply
   stumped than before.
 
  Try: hp-setup -i /dev/parport0
 
  See if that helps.
 
  Try hp-setup -hfor other options.
 
  I take it that your kernel has parallel port support generated, and
 that
  you have file permission to access /dev/lp0 ?

  It runs, but only gives me options for usb and net.  This makes some
  sense since there are no /dev/parport* entries in my system.

  Nevertheless, I have parallel port support as I understand it.  From my
  kernel (2.6.22-gentoo-r6) .config file:

  #
  # Generic Driver Options
  #
  CONFIG_STANDALONE=y
  CONFIG_PREVENT_FIRMWARE_BUILD=y
  CONFIG_FW_LOADER=m
  # CONFIG_SYS_HYPERVISOR is not set
  # CONFIG_CONNECTOR is not set
  # CONFIG_MTD is not set
  CONFIG_PARPORT=yparallel port
  CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=y  PC style
  # CONFIG_PARPORT_SERIAL is not set
  # CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_FIFO is not set
  # CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_SUPERIO is not set
  # CONFIG_PARPORT_GSC is not set
  # CONFIG_PARPORT_AX88796 is not set
  CONFIG_PARPORT_1284=y
  CONFIG_PNP=y
  # CONFIG_PNP_DEBUG is not set

 Your kernel set-up looks reasonable to me.

 I don't have parallel port support generated into my system, as I don't
 have a parallel printer.

 On a Centos host with parallel port support, 2.6.18 kernel:

 CONFIG_PARPORT=m
 CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=m
 CONFIG_PARPORT_SERIAL=m
 # CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_FIFO is not set
 # CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_SUPERIO is not set
 CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_PCMCIA=m
 CONFIG_PARPORT_NOT_PC=y
 # CONFIG_PARPORT_GSC is not set
 # CONFIG_PARPORT_AX88796 is not set
 CONFIG_PARPORT_1284=y
 CONFIG_PARIDE_PARPORT=m
 CONFIG_I2C_PARPORT=m
 CONFIG_I2C_PARPORT_LIGHT=m

 ls /dev/par* shows:

 /dev/par0  /dev/parport0  /dev/parport1  /dev/parport2  /dev/parport3

 Do you have a standard parallel port, or a special IO card?

 Have you modified /etc/udev.d rules? I have these (unmodified) entries:

 rules.d/50-udev.rules:KERNEL==lp*,NAME=%k, GROUP=lp
 rules.d/50-udev.rules:KERNEL==parport*,   NAME=%k, GROUP=lp

 I'm puzzled by this, as your /dev/lp0 print test worked.

 The only other suggestion I have would be to try:

 hp-setup -i /dev/lp0

 Don't know if hp-setup will accept this, might be worth having a go.

 Cheers, Dave
 --
 gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

 hp-setup stubbornly refuses to acknowledge /dev/lp0

I got it to work, but don't really know what was wrong.  The drive that held
my root directory and all
configs had failed.  Friday, i got it back from the DiskSavers, along with
the data on a new USB
external drive.  Copying over the cups config files just magically made the
printer work locally.
That's enough for now.

I'm still struggling with a host of issues, so I'm going to ignore the fact
that I have no idea what
keeps my CUPS working.

I think I've got cron backing up to that USB drive nightly -- using rsync it
takes about an hour for
all partitions, unattended.  Beats the blazes out of hovering over the DVD
drive.  And i'm pretty sure
I won't end up in the same fix again.

But I've still got to get the LPD service going, not to mention apache,
vmware, ntp and gaim/pidgin.
And I have a day job.

I'll get around to it.  Real Soon Now.

++ kevin


-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] Belated switchover to pidgin from gaim, fails silently

2008-02-03 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Feb 3, 2008 3:15 PM, Mateusz Mierzwinski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Kevin O'Gorman pisze:
  I just got around to noticing that my gaim IM client is deprecated.
  I emerged pidgin and it shows up in the menus, but all attempts to
  start it silently fail.
  I tried looking in /var/log/*, for instance, and get nothing.
  Grepping there for 'pidgin' and still nothing.
  Does anybody want to help me guess?
 
 
  --
  Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
 Try to change name of directory in Your home - .gaim to someelse. Next
 try to start pidgin. If it fails, then run emerge --sync  emerge
 pidgin -va (set flags for things you need) and next try to run again. If
 renaming of .gaim catalog help's then this is incompatibility of
 configure files or some archives. Try to experiment. IF somethings
 happend, wrote here.

 Mateusz M.
 --
 gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list


renaming .gaim to dot.gaim makes no difference.

I did not re-emerge it, but found that it works if I'm the root user.

++ kevin



-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] Belated switchover to pidgin from gaim, fails silently

2008-02-03 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Feb 3, 2008 3:26 PM, Brian Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 15:08:34 -0800
 Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I just got around to noticing that my gaim IM client is deprecated.
  I emerged pidgin and it shows up in the menus, but all attempts to
  start it silently fail.
  I tried looking in /var/log/*, for instance, and get nothing.
  Grepping there for 'pidgin' and still nothing.
  Does anybody want to help me guess?
 
 
 You aren't going to get any /var/logs for a failed program like Pidgin.
 Try starting it from a terminal, where you should get output.


Brian


Starting from a terminal also dies silently.

I tried running it under strace(1), and it appears that it's doing a poll(6,
...) followed by a read(6, ...)
on a socket, and the read errors out with EAGAIN.  Pidgin promptly dies
without a message.  Pidgin
had written to this socket, but it was binary and I don't recongnze the
contents.  The last few:

writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0%\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
136}, {\35\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
munmap(0xb69c2000, 16944)   = 0
writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
136}, {\36\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0\'\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
136}, {\37\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
munmap(0xb69b5000, 8400)= 0
munmap(0xb69b2000, 8364)= 0
writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0(\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
136}, {!\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
munmap(0xb69ae000, 12772)   = 0
munmap(0xb69aa000, 12616)   = 0
writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0)\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
136}, {#\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
munmap(0xb6819000, 96672)   = 0
munmap(0xb69a6000, 12552)   = 0
munmap(0xb69a2000, 12616)   = 0
munmap(0xb681, 33468)   = 0
munmap(0xb699e000, 12584)   = 0
munmap(0xb680d000, 8396)= 0
writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0*\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
136}, {)\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
munmap(0xb67fa000, 76400)   = 0
writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0+\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
136}, {*\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
munmap(0xb67e6000, 79420)   = 0
writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0,\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
136}, {+\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
munmap(0xb67e2000, 12836)   = 0
munmap(0xb67ac000, 218892)  = 0
writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0-\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
136}, {,\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
munmap(0xb6791000, 107488)  = 0
munmap(0xb678d000, 12592)   = 0
writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0.\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
136}, {/\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
munmap(0xb678a000, 8676)= 0
munmap(0xb6831000, 250056)  = 0

...


gettimeofday({1202082681, 583620}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1202082681, 584464}, NULL) = 0
writev(6, [{l\1\0\1#\0\0\0/\0\0\0\177\0\0\0\1\1o\0\25\0\0\0/org/fre...,
144}, {\36\0\0\0im.pidgin.purple.PurpleServi..., 35}], 2) = 179
gettimeofday({1202082681, 585299}, NULL) = 0
poll([{fd=6, events=POLLIN, revents=POLLIN}], 1, 25000) = 1
read(6, l\2\1\1\4\0\0\0\4\0\0\0=\0\0\0\6\1s\0\4\0\0\0:1.3\0\0\0\0...,
2048) = 84


++ kevin


-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] Belated switchover to pidgin from gaim, fails silently

2008-02-03 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Feb 3, 2008 4:16 PM, Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 On Feb 3, 2008 3:26 PM, Brian Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 15:08:34 -0800
  Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   I just got around to noticing that my gaim IM client is deprecated.
   I emerged pidgin and it shows up in the menus, but all attempts to
   start it silently fail.
   I tried looking in /var/log/*, for instance, and get nothing.
   Grepping there for 'pidgin' and still nothing.
   Does anybody want to help me guess?
  
  
  You aren't going to get any /var/logs for a failed program like Pidgin.
  Try starting it from a terminal, where you should get output.
 
 
 Brian
 

 Starting from a terminal also dies silently.

 I tried running it under strace(1), and it appears that it's doing a
 poll(6, ...) followed by a read(6, ...)
 on a socket, and the read errors out with EAGAIN.  Pidgin promptly dies
 without a message.  Pidgin
 had written to this socket, but it was binary and I don't recongnze the
 contents.  The last few:

 writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0%\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
 136}, {\35\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
 munmap(0xb69c2000, 16944)   = 0
 writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
 136}, {\36\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
 writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0\'\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
 136}, {\37\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
 munmap(0xb69b5000, 8400)= 0
 munmap(0xb69b2000, 8364)= 0
 writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0(\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
 136}, {!\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
 munmap(0xb69ae000, 12772)   = 0
 munmap(0xb69aa000, 12616)   = 0
 writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0)\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
 136}, {#\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
 munmap(0xb6819000, 96672)   = 0
 munmap(0xb69a6000, 12552)   = 0
 munmap(0xb69a2000, 12616)   = 0
 munmap(0xb681, 33468)   = 0
 munmap(0xb699e000, 12584)   = 0
 munmap(0xb680d000, 8396)= 0
 writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0*\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
 136}, {)\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
 munmap(0xb67fa000, 76400)   = 0
 writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0+\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
 136}, {*\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
 munmap(0xb67e6000, 79420)   = 0
 writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0,\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
 136}, {+\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
 munmap(0xb67e2000, 12836)   = 0
 munmap(0xb67ac000, 218892)  = 0
 writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0-\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
 136}, {,\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
 munmap(0xb6791000, 107488)  = 0
 munmap(0xb678d000, 12592)   = 0
 writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0.\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
 136}, {/\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
 munmap(0xb678a000, 8676)= 0
 munmap(0xb6831000, 250056)  = 0

 ...


 gettimeofday({1202082681, 583620}, NULL) = 0
 gettimeofday({1202082681, 584464}, NULL) = 0
 writev(6, [{l\1\0\1#\0\0\0/\0\0\0\177\0\0\0\1\1o\0\25\0\0\0/org/fre...,
 144}, {\36\0\0\0im.pidgin.purple.PurpleServi..., 35}], 2) = 179
 gettimeofday({1202082681, 585299}, NULL) = 0
 poll([{fd=6, events=POLLIN, revents=POLLIN}], 1, 25000) = 1
 read(6, l\2\1\1\4\0\0\0\4\0\0\0=\0\0\0\6\1s\0\4\0\0\0:1.3\0\0\0\0...,
 2048) = 84


 ++ kevin


 --
 Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


More info: pidgin works fine if I'm the root user.  How that fits in with
socket ops I do not know.

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage behaviour with Masked packages - Gaim

2008-02-04 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On 2/4/08, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Monday 04 February 2008, Michael Schmarck wrote:
  Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Why is gaim no longer in portage?  Is it dead upstream?
 
  It has been renamed to Pidgin in 2007 to prevent some legal
  issues with AOL and their AIM product.

 From Michael Sullivan's comment shall I assume that you also did not see
 the
 portage warning about Gaim-over (pun intended) or perhaps you never had
 Gaim
 installed?

 Anyone else who can confirm that they have Gaim installed but not seen the
 portage warning?
 --


I can; and I'm the OP.

I don't know where the warning would have been seen; generally there's so
much stuff
that any particular item has to really push to be noticed.  But at that
time, all ewarn and einfo
messages were being mailed to me, but I don't remember seeing this.

++ kevin



-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage behaviour with Masked packages - Gaim

2008-02-04 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On 2/4/08, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 15:11 +, Mick wrote:
  On Monday 04 February 2008, Michael Schmarck wrote:
   Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why is gaim no longer in portage?  Is it dead upstream?
  
   It has been renamed to Pidgin in 2007 to prevent some legal
   issues with AOL and their AIM product.
 
  From Michael Sullivan's comment shall I assume that you also did not see
 the
  portage warning about Gaim-over (pun intended) or perhaps you never had
 Gaim
  installed?
 
  Anyone else who can confirm that they have Gaim installed but not seen
 the
  portage warning?

 I have gaim installed, and I use it every day, but I haven't seen any
 warnings from portage.  Will pidgin  be able to read my ~/.gaim/* files?


Yes.  But be aware that if you keep logs of your IM and chat traffic, that
the first time pidgin starts will take a LONG time.  But when it's over, you
will have everything, or at least I did.




-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo rebuild, cups won't work WORKAROUND (i.e. mysteriously solved)

2008-02-04 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Feb 3, 2008 3:57 PM, Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kevin O'Gorman wrote on 04/02/08 00:19:

  I've installed cups and hplip  I cannot follow the Gentoo
  printing guide, because that worthy document requires me to add
  hplip to the default runlevel, but hplip does not put anything in
  /etc/init.d.  My printer is an old HP Laserjet 4M, which I usually
  run as a Postscrpt printer.
  What have I missed?

  hp-setup stubbornly refuses to acknowledge /dev/lp0

  I got it to work, but don't really know what was wrong.  The drive
  that held my root directory and all configs had failed.  Friday, i
  got it back from the DiskSavers, along with the data on a new USB
  external drive.  Copying over the cups config files just magically
  made the printer work locally.

  That's enough for now.

  I'm still struggling with a host of issues, so I'm going to ignore
  the fact that I have no idea what keeps my CUPS working.

  I think I've got cron backing up to that USB drive nightly -- using
  rsync it takes about an hour for all partitions, unattended.  Beats
  the blazes out of hovering over the DVD drive.  And i'm pretty sure I
  won't end up in the same fix again.

  But I've still got to get the LPD service going, not to mention
  apache, vmware, ntp and gaim/pidgin.

  And I have a day job.

  I'll get around to it.  Real Soon Now.

 Glad to hear that you're up and running, and thanks for the timely
 reminder to do a backup! 8-)

 Please check that you have USE=parport enabled for hplip

 The contents of /etc/hp/hplip.conf and the output of:
 hp-check
   - and -
 hp-probe -bpar

 would also be interesting.

 Cheers, Dave
 --
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 It's gonna take a day or so to get all that.  I'm in the midst of one of
those monster recompiles now,
and working on apache.  Did I mention I have a day job?  :o)

Thanks for the help.  I did find that hplip was compiled without the parport
flag.  Since local printing
on the parallel port is now working without it, I wonder what it does?

Thanks, and I'll get that info when I have things a bit more stable.
++ kevin

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] Belated switchover to pidgin from gaim, fails silently

2008-02-04 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Feb 4, 2008 12:50 AM, Mateusz Mierzwinski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Kevin O'Gorman pisze:
  On Feb 3, 2008 3:15 PM, Mateusz Mierzwinski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Kevin O'Gorman pisze:
   I just got around to noticing that my gaim IM client is
  deprecated.
   I emerged pidgin and it shows up in the menus, but all attempts to
   start it silently fail.
   I tried looking in /var/log/*, for instance, and get nothing.
   Grepping there for 'pidgin' and still nothing.
   Does anybody want to help me guess?
  
  
   --
   Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
  Try to change name of directory in Your home - .gaim to someelse.
 Next
  try to start pidgin. If it fails, then run emerge --sync  emerge
  pidgin -va (set flags for things you need) and next try to run
  again. If
  renaming of .gaim catalog help's then this is incompatibility of
  configure files or some archives. Try to experiment. IF somethings
  happend, wrote here.
 
  Mateusz M.
  --
  gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
  mailing list
 
 
  renaming .gaim to dot.gaim makes no difference.
 
  I did not re-emerge it, but found that it works if I'm the root user.
 
  ++ kevin
 
 
 
  --
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 You should get pidgin in Your group. Set correct rights to app and libs.
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I'm not clear on what that means.  I don't think I'm going to fool around
with file permissions on an installed package.

In any event, it turns out that after I ran pidgin as root, it started to
work for me as a user too.  Go figure.  I'm not gonna mess with it.  I'm
going on to the other things that still don't work.

++ kevin


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo rebuild, cups won't work WORKAROUND (i.e. mysteriously solved)

2008-02-06 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Feb 5, 2008 2:47 PM, Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dale wrote on 05/02/08 22:44:
  hp-setup stubbornly refuses to acknowledge /dev/lp0
  Please check that you have USE=parport enabled for hplip

  Thanks for the help.  I did find that hplip was compiled without the
  parport flag.

  Dale beat me to pointing out that you may have missed the parport USE
  flag,  most likely the cause of the problem.

  Dale has added the USE flag parport to his too.  Just in case I ever
  need it.  Mine is not grayed out now either.  That should work.

 Dale, thanks for the pointer, and also for proving that enabling the
 parport USE flag should cure the problem Kevin experienced.

  Ain't having all the options neat?  Even if you have to recompile things
  a lot.   ;-)

 It's one of Gentoos' many strong points - *you* choose what *you* want.

 I enjoy keeping my systems lean and mean, so I turn off options I don't
 require, rather than including them 'just in case.'

 That's the beauty of Gentoo: we have choice.  To each their own.

 It's called freedom.

 Cheers, Dave

Well, this is weird.  Putting in the parport USE flag causes a change in the
config file that gets built during emergence of hplip: /etc/hp/hplip.conf
now has pp-build=yes, and hplip is now
willing to probe parallel devices.

This does me no good because it doesn't find any devices, even though the
printer is
powered on, connected, and has been printing just fine.

However, the emphasis is on the fact that the printer prints.  So I'm gonna
spend my time
on getting apache and vmware working.

++ kevin



-- 
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[gentoo-user] Looking for PCI-X external SATA controller

2008-02-14 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I can find a lot of cards that are almost what I want.  But I have an
external drive, and a PCI-X motherboard.  Not internal, and not PCI-E.
Anybody know of such a beast?

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


[gentoo-user] emerge -aDNvu world fails

2008-03-29 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I cannot emerge world any more because portage keeps barfing on some random
java ebuild.
Java's not even in the list of things to emerge, but here's what I see:

Total: 14 packages (14 upgrades), Size of downloads: 99,898 kB

Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] yes
 Verifying ebuild Manifests...

!!! Digest verification failed:
!!! /usr/portage/dev-java/sun-jdk/sun-jdk-1.5.0.15-r1.ebuild
!!! Reason: Failed on RMD160 verification
!!! Got: 751637964edd458f00c9c72de8f5375eabaf9004
!!! Expected: c7268656bf1adccafde5dd9c1104c5a12905b1dc
treat init.d #


I've tried deleting the offending file and re-syncing, but the same error
occurs.

Help???

++ kevin

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


[gentoo-user] Konsole, Gentoo and colors

2008-03-29 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I've got a problem with the colors that are used in Gentoo stuff.
I run KDE, and my terminals are generally konsoles.
The colors used by portage, ls and vim always seem to have
portions that are unreadable because of low contrast -- the
text blends into the background.

I've tried different konsole schemata, and find that different things
work for different purposes, but there's no one schema  that I
can just leave in place and forget.

I use 'light paper' for starters.  The 'linux colors' scheme is good
for some things, but I the darker colors don't show up well on it
(blue in particular), and I pretty much avoid dark backgrounds
when I can because I think they're depressing and they give
me eyestrain.

Does anyone have a suggestion?

++ kevin

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -aDNvu world fails

2008-03-29 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  I cannot emerge world any more because portage keeps barfing on some
 random
  java ebuild.
  Java's not even in the list of things to emerge, but here's what I see:
 
  Total: 14 packages (14 upgrades), Size of downloads: 99,898 kB
 
  Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] yes
   Verifying ebuild Manifests...
 
  !!! Digest verification failed:
  !!! /usr/portage/dev-java/sun-jdk/sun-jdk-1.5.0.15-r1.ebuild
  !!! Reason: Failed on RMD160 verification
   !!! Got: 751637964edd458f00c9c72de8f5375eabaf9004
  !!! Expected: c7268656bf1adccafde5dd9c1104c5a12905b1dc
  treat init.d #
 
 
  I've tried deleting the offending file and re-syncing, but the same
 error
  occurs.
 
  Help???
 
  ++ kevin
 
  --
  Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
 

 For now mask java above whatever revision is currently installed and
 move on. When your emerge is complete remember to remove the mask.
 When they fix the file/digest/whatever is causing the problem it will
 start working again.


Unfortunately, that puts portage into a proper tizzy because my current
version is not longer listed
as available (sun-jdk-1.6.0.03).  Portage therefore goes into a fit of
downgrades, which I do not want.
I find that I can get stuff emerged by doing --pretend, then emerging
everything except java.
This, of course, is not the Way It Should  Be (TM), but may get me through
the rough patch.

++ kevin


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -aDNvu world fails

2008-03-31 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Gregory Shearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

  I cannot emerge world any more because portage keeps barfing on some
  random java ebuild.
  Java's not even in the list of things to emerge, but here's what I see:
 
  Total: 14 packages (14 upgrades), Size of downloads: 99,898 kB
 
  Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] yes
  Verifying ebuild Manifests...
 
  !!! Digest verification failed:
  !!! /usr/portage/dev-java/sun-jdk/sun-jdk-1.5.0.15-r1.ebuild
  !!! Reason: Failed on RMD160 verification
  !!! Got: 751637964edd458f00c9c72de8f5375eabaf9004
  !!! Expected: c7268656bf1adccafde5dd9c1104c5a12905b1dc
  treat init.d #
 
 
  I've tried deleting the offending file and re-syncing, but the same
 error
  occurs.
 
  Help???
 
  ++ kevin
 

 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215288

 []

 Workaround:
remove EBUILD line from Manifest
remove /usr/portage/dev-java/sun-jdk/sun-jdk-1.5.0.15-r1.ebuild

 [...]

 Things have moved quickly.  The workaround did not work for me, but before
I got to post
a complaint about it, the PowersThatBe somehow pushed good copies of the
portage tree
out to the mirrors, and things seem to be working again.

Thanks, though.  It was an interesting education.

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, Gentoo and colors

2008-03-31 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Saturday 29 March 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
  I've got a problem with the colors that are used in Gentoo stuff.
  I run KDE, and my terminals are generally konsoles.
  The colors used by portage, ls and vim always seem to have
  portions that are unreadable because of low contrast -- the
  text blends into the background.
 
  I've tried different konsole schemata, and find that different things
  work for different purposes, but there's no one schema  that I
  can just leave in place and forget.
 
  I use 'light paper' for starters.  The 'linux colors' scheme is good
  for some things, but I the darker colors don't show up well on it
  (blue in particular), and I pretty much avoid dark backgrounds
  when I can because I think they're depressing and they give
  me eyestrain.

 I've always used Linux Colours, on crt and on lcd displays. Contrast
 works fine for me. What display device do you use?


What do you mean about contrast?

My gentoo is using a Westinghouse flat screen with mid-range
brightness and contrast.



-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, Gentoo and colors

2008-03-31 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Etaoin Shrdlu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Saturday 29 March 2008, 17:30, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

  Does anyone have a suggestion?

 You can remap the colors used by portage.
 man color.map
 --
 gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list


I found that man page singularly unhelpful.  It lists colors and defaults,
but not a word about
syntax, and no mention of other ways of specifying colors (the gentoo tips
page suggests that
ASCII sequences can be used there, but gives only cryptic information about
how that might
be done.

++ kevin

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, Gentoo and colors

2008-04-01 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Monday 31 March 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
  I've always used Linux Colours, on crt and on lcd displays. Contrast
   works fine for me. What display device do you use?
 
 
  What do you mean about contrast?
 
  My gentoo is using a Westinghouse flat screen with mid-range
  brightness and contrast.

 My question could have been clearer, I meant that the relative contrast
 between fore and background colours using Linux Colours is OK so I can
 see grey on black fine, and the difference between a colour and the
 same one bold is also obvious.

 I've used some cheaper crts that were just gross, and in the past found
 that the quality of LCDs were highly variable and mostly unrelated to
 price (this seems to have settled now though).


One of the things I don't like about black background is that on all
monitors
the background seems to crowd the glyphs -- the markings seems more
slender than when the colors are reversed.  With small fonts (I like high
resolution settings for other reasons), this makes the lettering hard to
read.


 You seem to know what to do in most cases and how to achieve it, so I
 don't know if my favourite colour schemes will help you much. However,
 have you considered an eye test for colour sensitivity? A large number
 of males are under-sensitive to certain colours and it's apparently
 hard for the person to detect it in themselves.


I'm glad it seems so, since I teach computer science at the university
level.  :o)
But I was hoping to get samples and suggestions of how others have dealt
with this.  I've been muttering under my breath about this for a few years
now and I thought it likely that others may have taken action.

As for vision: I have such an exam yearly.  I always see the numerals in
their
samples, and nobody's ever mentioned color insensitivity. Nevertheless, it's
possible it's vision-related since it works this way for me on all monitors,
and
in my work I see a lot of monitors.

++ kevin


 --
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 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, Gentoo and colors

2008-04-11 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I'm gonna guess that's a difference between plasma and LCD displays.
++ kevin

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:01 AM, Peter Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Tuesday 01 April 2008 14:25:56 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

  One of the things I don't like about black background is that on all
  monitors the background seems to crowd the glyphs -- the markings
 seems
  more slender than when the colors are reversed.

 That's odd - I get exactly the converse impression - black lettering on
 white is less easy to pick out.

 On the other hand, my eyes always have been a bit strange.

 --
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 Peter
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[gentoo-user] Cups wedged print jobs

2008-04-13 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
This is the first in a series of at least 3 cries for help, each on a
separate sub-part of my goal of making sense of cups, lpd and Windows Vista.

I have cups (fully updated) running successfully on my Gentoo system, except
for one thing: sometimes a job fails to print at first ( don't bother asking
why -- I don't know and cannot reconstruct it now).  This has left a few
jobs in the cups queue.  I could delete them, but I would rather print them.

The problem is that although cups can print new jobs, I don't know any way
to get it to go back and print the three that are there now.  Here's what
it's telling me:

treat kevin # lpstat -t
scheduler is running
system default destination: lp0
device for lp0: parallel:/dev/lp0
lp0 accepting requests since Sun Apr 13 13:07:25 2008
printer lp0 is idle.  enabled since Sun Apr 13 13:07:25 2008
lp0-155 kevin 4096   Fri Mar 28 15:04:34 2008
lp0-156 kevin 4096   Fri Mar 28 15:04:44 2008
lp0-235 root  6144   Sat Apr 12 20:11:37 2008
treat kevin #

The printer is an HP LaserJet 4m, direct attached by centronix cable to the
machine where at least the first two jobs originated.

Help?

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


[gentoo-user] Webmin not accepting root logins

2008-04-13 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
This is the second in a series of at least 3 cries for help, each on a
separate sub-part of my goal of making sense of cups, lpd and Windows Vista.

I'm trying to use webmin to look at CUPS administration.  I've done it
before, but now my attempt to log in has failied, and done so with such
persistence that webmin now says Error - Access denied for 127.0.0.1. The
host has been blocked because of too many authentication failures.

I was trying both my regular user login and my root login.  Neither one
worked.

The obvious questions:
 1) Should I have used some other login?  I don't remember setting up
anything else.
 2) Can I undo the lock out?
 3) Can I enable an account that I'm likely to remember?

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


[gentoo-user] Cups not seeing a wireless host

2008-04-13 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
This is the third in a series of at least 3 cries for help, each on a
separate sub-part of my goal of making sense of cups, lpd and Windows Vista.

I have a cups server on my gentoo system, and it serves its own jobs and
those of a WinXP host that's on my LAN.  The XP host is set up to use the
Gentoo system as an LPD server, using the drivers I loaded off the XP
install CD.

So far, so good, although parts 1 and 2 (previous posts) show that it's not
perfect.

What I want now is to let my wife's Windows Vista  laptop use the printer.
I've seen how to set up an LPD printer in Vista, and it's a bit easier than
it was in XP.  However, it does not work at all -- I cannot print a test
page.  The Vista box seems to think everything's fine, but nothing
happens at the printer.

The Vista machine is connected via wireless to my LAN,  where CUPS is
working, and where a NAT router also gives access to the wider
internet.  It seems that this should work,  but it does not.

Help?

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] Webmin not accepting root logins

2008-04-14 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On 4/14/08, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Monday 14 April 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Sunday 13 April 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
   This is the second in a series of at least 3 cries for help, each on
   a separate sub-part of my goal of making sense of cups, lpd and
   Windows Vista.
  
   I'm trying to use webmin to look at CUPS administration.
 
  I would not recommend this route, as I do not trust Webmin to not
  obliterate my various configs. The CUPS front end is much better, it is
  found on the CUPS server at port 631 from your browser. If memory
  serves, your regular root password should work just fine


 It's been some years now and can't remember if webmin has its own root
 account
 (different from the OS root account).  Have you tried login with root as
 the
 username and your normal user passwd?

 I also can't remember what the CUPS interface was on webmin, but what Alan
 suggests above has always worked for me (once I manage to get the right
 path
 for the printer).


The 631 port is working for me.  What's odd is that I cannot get the stalled
jobs to
print.  This evening I'll turn debugging on and try again.  Info to
follow...

++ kevin




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Re: [gentoo-user] Cups not seeing a wireless host

2008-04-15 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On 4/13/08, Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 02:39:09PM -0700, Penguin Lover Kevin O'Gorman
 squawked:

  What I want now is to let my wife's Windows Vista  laptop use the
 printer.
  I've seen how to set up an LPD printer in Vista, and it's a bit easier
 than
  it was in XP.  However, it does not work at all -- I cannot print a test
  page.  The Vista box seems to think everything's fine, but nothing
  happens at the printer.
 
  The Vista machine is connected via wireless to my LAN,  where CUPS is
  working, and where a NAT router also gives access to the wider
  internet.  It seems that this should work,  but it does not.


 So, something got lost somewhere between your vista box and your cups
 server, eh? Some logs would be nice. (On vista, open up the print
 queue, and see if there are any errors; on gentoo, give us
 /var/log/cups/, preferably trimmed to show just before you tried to
 send a print job from the laptop and just after.)


On vista, it pops up a dialog saying a test page has been sent.  I don't see
any
queued jobs for this.

On cups/gentoo, there's no sign of activity.  The logs don't add a single
line, even with logging set to debug.

Right now I'm trying to clean up the configuration.  The logs for startup
show some problems with ports which I'm having some trouble deciphering.  I
only get a few minutes per day to work on this, so it goes slowly.

++ kevin




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Re: [gentoo-user] Recommend a program for line art and text

2008-04-15 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On 1/30/07, Hans-Werner Hilse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,


 On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:26:37 -0800 Kevin O'Gorman
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I've tried creating diagrams in xfig.  It works fine for my LaTeX
  documents, but does not export well to PNG for use in web pages.


 Hm, what do you mean by saying not so well? If it's just that it
 isn't antialiased as good as you'd like it to be, then just export it
 at higher resolution and scale it down with some pix-image tool
 afterwards.

 Aside from that, it really depends on what diagrams you're creating.
 Personally, I turned away from xfig a bit, but that's mostly due to its
 interface. I like dia for flow-charts and similar stuff and inkscape
 for more graphic intensive stuff.

 -hwh


Fooling with bitmap resolutions gives me a headache, and I havent' figured
out
how to make it look good on screen and also good when printed.  My students
print my pages a lot.

Thanks for Inkscape, tho -- it is perfect for me.  I like the interface, and
since it saves
in SVG format, I get web pages without the intermediate bitmap bother. The
results are much better

++ kevin

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-04-29 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:31:05 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  How might I manage to change the current profile from x86/2006 to
  x86/2008

 Change the /etc/make.profile symlink or use eselect profile.

  That option is of course not available currently at
  /usr/portage/profiles.

 2008 hasn't been released yet. Switch to 2007.0 for now, then it will be
 less of a change when 2008.0 is released.

 Hmmm.  I may have read this latest post just in time.  My system contains
/usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/2008.0/desktop and I had just linked
/etc/make.profile to it and synced up.  I was about to emerge world -- it
was
going to rebuild 124 packages (a lot of kde stuff for one thing).

I think I'll go back to 2007 for now

The question: if it hasn't been released, what is this profile doing on my
system, and how am I supposed to know?

++ kevin


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Looking for SATA controller recommendation

2008-05-07 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Roy Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Howdy,

 I'm looking to add three more drives to my system for a software RAID5
 media volume.  I've used all my motherboard SATA ports so need a SATA
 controller.  I don't want a hardware RAID controller (been there, burned
 when controller died).  4 SATA2 ports is the minimum required.  I have
 both PCIe and PCI slots available.  I do not need high performance as
 the RAID will just contain media files for access in my home.  I would
 prefer a controller supported by normal kernel drivers.  My preference
 is to keep costs down (3 x 1 TB drives are costly enough :).

 Any recommendations?

 FYI, system is gentoo ~x86, Intel Q9300, Gigabyte GA-X48-DQ6.

 I just added 2 e-SATA controllers to my systems, 1 Gentoo at home and 1
FC7
at work.  They're  Silicon Image 3124, and work with PCI or PCIX (not PCIe),
which
is good because the Gentoo is PCIX, but the FC system is original PCI.

In both cases, normal kernel drivers were fine.  Just make sure your kernel
has
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SIIMAGE=m or y

Frankly, I bought on price also, and wanted external drives.

++ kevin




-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kde 3.5.9 revdep-rebuild

2008-05-22 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 7:49 AM, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote


 Yep, after rebooting (exiting kde hung) all is fine now.

 It's a bit quicker to just ctl-alt-backspace to restart X.  No need to
reboot, I think.



-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


[gentoo-user] Message bus mis-configured

2008-05-29 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
When I use some KDE tools, most recently Konqueror, I get symptoms of a
mis-configuration which I think is dbus-related.
I've never fooled with it as far as I can remember, and I know nothing about
it.  So I'm hoping there's an easy cure.

The recent thing: opening a Konqeror windows for a freshly-mounted CDROM on
a freshly-rebooted system: a dialog box
claiming:
A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message
to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had
interface org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume member Mount error name
(unset) destination org.freedesktop.Hal)

Any ideas?

++ kevin


[gentoo-user] K3b complains about my locale

2008-05-29 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
When I crank up K3b, it complains about my setup, with the message

System locale charset is ANSI_X3.4-1968
Your system's locale charset (i.e. the charset used to encode filenames)
is set to ANSI_X3.4-1968. It is highly unlikely that this has been done
intentionally.
Most likely the locale is not set at all. An invalid setting will
result in problems when creating data projects.
Solution: To properly set the locale charset make sure the LC_*
environment variables are set. Normally the distribution setup tools take
care of this.

It is correct that this is not intentional (it does seem antique).  I have
configured .mybashrc to set my LANG to en_US, but nothing beyond that.
What distribution setup tools is it referring to, so that I can correct
this on gentoo?

++ kevin


Re: [gentoo-user] K3b complains about my locale

2008-05-29 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 29 May 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
  When I crank up K3b, it complains about my setup, with the message
 
  System locale charset is ANSI_X3.4-1968
  Your system's locale charset (i.e. the charset used to encode
  filenames) is set to ANSI_X3.4-1968. It is highly unlikely that this has
  been done intentionally.
  Most likely the locale is not set at all. An invalid setting will
  result in problems when creating data projects.
  Solution: To properly set the locale charset make sure the LC_*
  environment variables are set. Normally the distribution setup tools take
  care of this.
 
  It is correct that this is not intentional (it does seem antique).  I
 have
  configured .mybashrc to set my LANG to en_US, but nothing beyond that.
  What distribution setup tools is it referring to, so that I can correct
  this on gentoo?

 What have you set up in your /etc/locale.gen ?


I won't take credit for setting this up, because I don't think I did.  On
the other hand,
I've had occasion to internationalize a web page to dutch and polish, which
appear
in the list.  So I dunno where it came from.

But here's what's there:

# /etc/locale.gen: list all of the locales you want to have on your system
#
# The format of each line:
# locale charmap
#
# Where locale is a locale located in /usr/share/i18n/locales/ and
# where charmap is a charmap located in /usr/share/i18n/charmaps/.
#
# All blank lines and lines starting with # are ignored.
#
# For the default list of supported combinations, see the file:
# /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED
#
# Whenever glibc is emerged, the locales listed here will be automatically
# rebuilt for you.  After updating this file, you can simply run
`locale-gen`
# yourself instead of re-emerging glibc.

en_US ISO-8859-1
en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8
#ja_JP.EUC-JP EUC-JP
#ja_JP.UTF-8 UTF-8
#ja_JP EUC-JP
#en_HK ISO-8859-1
#en_PH ISO-8859-1
#de_DE ISO-8859-1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ISO-8859-15
es_MX ISO-8859-1
#fa_IR UTF-8
fr_FR ISO-8859-1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ISO-8859-15
#it_IT ISO-8859-1
pl_PL ISO-8859-15



-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


[gentoo-user] Setting up a second Adapted drive controller (fails)

2008-05-29 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I bought an Adaptec SATA controller to add some backups to a system that
already had an Adaptec SCSI controller.  They're both recognized as AIC7xxx,
but the second one is somehow blocked.

I can access the on-controller configuration stuff during BIOS startup, and
the
drives appear good.  I just cannot get things working with the Linux kernel.

I think this is the relevant part of dmesg output.  Notice the message about
Unable to reserve mem region.  In case I'm wrong, I've attached the whole
thing too.

...
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :03:01.0[A] - GSI 24 (level, low) - IRQ 18
scsi0 : Adaptec AIC7XXX EISA/VLB/PCI SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 7.0
Adaptec 3960D Ultra160 SCSI adapter
aic7899: Ultra160 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs

scsi 0:0:2:0: Direct-Access CSC146GB 10K REFURBISHED  0101 PQ: 0 ANSI: 3
scsi0:A:2:0: Tagged Queuing enabled.  Depth 32
 target0:0:2: Beginning Domain Validation
 target0:0:2: wide asynchronous
 target0:0:2: FAST-80 WIDE SCSI 160.0 MB/s DT (12.5 ns, offset 63)
 target0:0:2: Ending Domain Validation
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :03:01.1[B] - GSI 25 (level, low) - IRQ 19
scsi1 : Adaptec AIC7XXX EISA/VLB/PCI SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 7.0
Adaptec 3960D Ultra160 SCSI adapter
aic7899: Ultra160 Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs

PCI: Unable to reserve mem region #2:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for device :03:01.0
aic7xxx: Adaptec AIC-7899 Ultra 160/m SCSI host adapter at PCI 3/1/0
aic7xxx: I/O ports already in use, ignoring.
PCI: Unable to reserve mem region #2:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for device :03:01.1
aic7xxx: Adaptec AIC-7899 Ultra 160/m SCSI host adapter at PCI 3/1/1
aic7xxx: I/O ports already in use, ignoring.
Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
sd 0:0:2:0: [sda] 286749488 512-byte hardware sectors (146816 MB)
sd 0:0:2:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
sd 0:0:2:0: [sda] Mode Sense: ab 00 10 08
sd 0:0:2:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, supports DPO
and FUA
sd 0:0:2:0: [sda] 286749488 512-byte hardware sectors (146816 MB)
sd 0:0:2:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
sd 0:0:2:0: [sda] Mode Sense: ab 00 10 08
sd 0:0:2:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, supports DPO
and FUA
 sda: sda1 sda4  sda5 sda6 sda7 sda8 
sd 0:0:2:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
Driver 'sr' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303:KBC0,PNP0f13:MSE0] at 0x60,0x64 irq 1,12


-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


dmesg.eek
Description: Binary data


Re: [gentoo-user] K3b complains about my locale

2008-05-29 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 29 May 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
  On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Thursday 29 May 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
When I crank up K3b, it complains about my setup, with the message
   
System locale charset is ANSI_X3.4-1968
Your system's locale charset (i.e. the charset used to encode
filenames) is set to ANSI_X3.4-1968. It is highly unlikely that this
has been done intentionally.
Most likely the locale is not set at all. An invalid setting
will result in problems when creating data projects.
Solution: To properly set the locale charset make sure the LC_*
environment variables are set. Normally the distribution setup tools
take care of this.
   
It is correct that this is not intentional (it does seem antique).  I
  
   have
  
configured .mybashrc to set my LANG to en_US, but nothing beyond
that. What distribution setup tools is it referring to, so that I
 can
correct this on gentoo?
  
   What have you set up in your /etc/locale.gen ?
 
  I won't take credit for setting this up, because I don't think I did.  On
  the other hand,
  I've had occasion to internationalize a web page to dutch and polish,
 which
  appear
  in the list.  So I dunno where it came from.
 
  But here's what's there:
 
  # /etc/locale.gen: list all of the locales you want to have on your
 system
  #
  # The format of each line:
  # locale charmap
  #
  # Where locale is a locale located in /usr/share/i18n/locales/ and
  # where charmap is a charmap located in /usr/share/i18n/charmaps/.
  #
  # All blank lines and lines starting with # are ignored.
  #
  # For the default list of supported combinations, see the file:
  # /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED
  #
  # Whenever glibc is emerged, the locales listed here will be
 automatically
  # rebuilt for you.  After updating this file, you can simply run
  `locale-gen`
  # yourself instead of re-emerging glibc.
 
  en_US ISO-8859-1
  en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8
  #ja_JP.EUC-JP EUC-JP
  #ja_JP.UTF-8 UTF-8
  #ja_JP EUC-JP
  #en_HK ISO-8859-1
  #en_PH ISO-8859-1
  #de_DE ISO-8859-1
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISO-8859-15
  es_MX ISO-8859-1
  #fa_IR UTF-8
  fr_FR ISO-8859-1
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISO-8859-15
  #it_IT ISO-8859-1
  pl_PL ISO-8859-15

 This looks fine.  If when you run $ locale you get a list with LANG=en_US
 but
 further down LC_ALL=   (blank), then set export LC_ALL=xxx in your .bashrc
 to
 whatever you want your locale set to.


Halfway there.  I did that, and now locale looks like

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ locale
LANG=en_US
LC_CTYPE=en_US
LC_NUMERIC=en_US
LC_TIME=en_US
LC_COLLATE=en_US
LC_MONETARY=en_US
LC_MESSAGES=en_US
LC_PAPER=en_US
LC_NAME=en_US
LC_ADDRESS=en_US
LC_TELEPHONE=en_US
LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US
LC_ALL=en_US
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $

However, when I start k3b from the KDE menus, it still complains.

On the other hand, if I start k3b from the shell that gives the locale
results above,
it starts clean.  So the issue seems to be that I need to inform KDE about
the
locale.

I did a fresh boot, and that did not help, so I wonder if .mybashrc is the
correct
place to do this.

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] K3b complains about my locale

2008-05-30 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Daniel Pielmeier 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kevin O'Gorman schrieb:

  On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Thursday 29 May 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

 On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 On Thursday 29 May 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

 When I crank up K3b, it complains about my setup, with the message

System locale charset is ANSI_X3.4-1968
Your system's locale charset (i.e. the charset used to encode
 filenames) is set to ANSI_X3.4-1968. It is highly unlikely that this
 has been done intentionally.
Most likely the locale is not set at all. An invalid setting
 will result in problems when creating data projects.
Solution: To properly set the locale charset make sure the LC_*
 environment variables are set. Normally the distribution setup tools
 take care of this.

 It is correct that this is not intentional (it does seem antique).  I

 have

  configured .mybashrc to set my LANG to en_US, but nothing beyond
 that. What distribution setup tools is it referring to, so that I

 can

 correct this on gentoo?

 What have you set up in your /etc/locale.gen ?

 I won't take credit for setting this up, because I don't think I did.
  On
 the other hand,
 I've had occasion to internationalize a web page to dutch and polish,

 which

 appear
 in the list.  So I dunno where it came from.

 But here's what's there:

 # /etc/locale.gen: list all of the locales you want to have on your

 system

 #
 # The format of each line:
 # locale charmap
 #
 # Where locale is a locale located in /usr/share/i18n/locales/ and
 # where charmap is a charmap located in /usr/share/i18n/charmaps/.
 #
 # All blank lines and lines starting with # are ignored.
 #
 # For the default list of supported combinations, see the file:
 # /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED
 #
 # Whenever glibc is emerged, the locales listed here will be

 automatically

 # rebuilt for you.  After updating this file, you can simply run
 `locale-gen`
 # yourself instead of re-emerging glibc.

 en_US ISO-8859-1
 en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8
 #ja_JP.EUC-JP EUC-JP
 #ja_JP.UTF-8 UTF-8
 #ja_JP EUC-JP
 #en_HK ISO-8859-1
 #en_PH ISO-8859-1
 #de_DE ISO-8859-1
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISO-8859-15
 es_MX ISO-8859-1
 #fa_IR UTF-8
 fr_FR ISO-8859-1
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISO-8859-15
 #it_IT ISO-8859-1
 pl_PL ISO-8859-15

 This looks fine.  If when you run $ locale you get a list with LANG=en_US
 but
 further down LC_ALL=   (blank), then set export LC_ALL=xxx in your
 .bashrc
 to
 whatever you want your locale set to.


 Halfway there.  I did that, and now locale looks like

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ locale
 LANG=en_US
 LC_CTYPE=en_US
 LC_NUMERIC=en_US
 LC_TIME=en_US
 LC_COLLATE=en_US
 LC_MONETARY=en_US
 LC_MESSAGES=en_US
 LC_PAPER=en_US
 LC_NAME=en_US
 LC_ADDRESS=en_US
 LC_TELEPHONE=en_US
 LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US
 LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US
 LC_ALL=en_US
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $

 However, when I start k3b from the KDE menus, it still complains.

 On the other hand, if I start k3b from the shell that gives the locale
 results above,
 it starts clean.  So the issue seems to be that I need to inform KDE about
 the
 locale.

 I did a fresh boot, and that did not help, so I wonder if .mybashrc is the
 correct
 place to do this.


 try /etc/env.d/02locale

 LANG=en_US
 LC_ALL=en_US

 For details take a look at the localisation guide.
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/guide-localization.xml
 --
 gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list


The file /etc/env.d/02locale does not exist on my system.  I can create it,
of course,
but I suspect I may be missing something.  Is there a package I should
emerge?

++ kevin

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] K3b complains about my locale

2008-05-30 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Marzan, Richard non Unisys 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Dominik Zajac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 10:24 AM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] K3b complains about my locale

 if theres no file 02local you have to create it and set your locales there.
 after donig this run env-update

 regards

 Dominik
 On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Daniel Pielmeier 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kevin O'Gorman schrieb:

 On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thursday 29 May 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
 On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thursday 29 May 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
 When I crank up K3b, it complains about my setup, with the message

System locale charset is ANSI_X3.4-1968
Your system's locale charset (i.e. the charset used to encode
 filenames) is set to ANSI_X3.4-1968. It is highly unlikely that this
 has been done intentionally.
Most likely the locale is not set at all. An invalid setting
 will result in problems when creating data projects.
Solution: To properly set the locale charset make sure the LC_*
 environment variables are set. Normally the distribution setup tools
 take care of this.

 It is correct that this is not intentional (it does seem antique).  I
 have
 configured .mybashrc to set my LANG to en_US, but nothing beyond
 that. What distribution setup tools is it referring to, so that I
 can
 correct this on gentoo?
 What have you set up in your /etc/locale.gen ?
 I won't take credit for setting this up, because I don't think I did.  On
 the other hand,
 I've had occasion to internationalize a web page to dutch and polish,
 which
 appear
 in the list.  So I dunno where it came from.

 But here's what's there:

 # /etc/locale.gen: list all of the locales you want to have on your
 system
 #
 # The format of each line:
 # locale charmap
 #
 # Where locale is a locale located in /usr/share/i18n/locales/ and
 # where charmap is a charmap located in /usr/share/i18n/charmaps/.
 #
 # All blank lines and lines starting with # are ignored.
 #
 # For the default list of supported combinations, see the file:
 # /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED
 #
 # Whenever glibc is emerged, the locales listed here will be
 automatically
 # rebuilt for you.  After updating this file, you can simply run
 `locale-gen`
 # yourself instead of re-emerging glibc.

 en_US ISO-8859-1
 en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8
 #ja_JP.EUC-JP EUC-JP
 #ja_JP.UTF-8 UTF-8
 #ja_JP EUC-JP
 #en_HK ISO-8859-1
 #en_PH ISO-8859-1
 #de_DE ISO-8859-1
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISO-8859-15
 es_MX ISO-8859-1
 #fa_IR UTF-8
 fr_FR ISO-8859-1
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISO-8859-15
 #it_IT ISO-8859-1
 pl_PL ISO-8859-15
 This looks fine.  If when you run $ locale you get a list with LANG=en_US
 but
 further down LC_ALL=   (blank), then set export LC_ALL=xxx in your .bashrc
 to
 whatever you want your locale set to.

 Halfway there.  I did that, and now locale looks like

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ locale
 LANG=en_US
 LC_CTYPE=en_US
 LC_NUMERIC=en_US
 LC_TIME=en_US
 LC_COLLATE=en_US
 LC_MONETARY=en_US
 LC_MESSAGES=en_US
 LC_PAPER=en_US
 LC_NAME=en_US
 LC_ADDRESS=en_US
 LC_TELEPHONE=en_US
 LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US
 LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US
 LC_ALL=en_US
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $

 However, when I start k3b from the KDE menus, it still complains.

 On the other hand, if I start k3b from the shell that gives the locale
 results above,
 it starts clean.  So the issue seems to be that I need to inform KDE about
 the
 locale.

 I did a fresh boot, and that did not help, so I wonder if .mybashrc is the
 correct
 place to do this.

 try /etc/env.d/02locale

 LANG=en_US
 LC_ALL=en_US

 For details take a look at the localisation guide.
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/guide-localization.xml
 --
 gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

 The file /etc/env.d/02locale does not exist on my system.  I can create it,
 of course,
 but I suspect I may be missing something.  Is there a package I should
 emerge?

 ++ kevin

 --
 Kevin O'Gorman, PhD






 I guarantee that those instructions will work for you. Check to see if you
 have 02locale in your /etc/env.d/ dir.


 --
 gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

 It looks like I'd collect on that guarantee.
I did not have 02locale in /etc/env.d/dir, although there was a lot of other
stuff in that directory.
I added the two lines.
I ran env-update
I ctl-alt-backspace restarted my KDE/X system
I clicked k3b on the Multimedia submenu

It barked at me again about x3.4-1968.

So something isn't getting set up.

I have a feeling about 02locale being so specific.  Why 02.  Back in the
days when I had
a similar thing going on with SysV Init, we had such stuff in our rc.d
directory for run levels.
Most of those files got installed by particular owning packages.  Would
anyone who has
this file, and does not think they created it from

Re: [gentoo-user] K3b complains about my locale

2008-05-31 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 12:53 AM, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Saturday 31 May 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

  I did not have 02locale in /etc/env.d/dir, although there was a lot of
  other stuff in that directory.
  I added the two lines.
  I ran env-update
  I ctl-alt-backspace restarted my KDE/X system
  I clicked k3b on the Multimedia submenu
 
  It barked at me again about x3.4-1968.
 
  So something isn't getting set up.
 
  I have a feeling about 02locale being so specific.  Why 02.  Back in
  the days when I had
  a similar thing going on with SysV Init, we had such stuff in our rc.d
  directory for run levels.
  Most of those files got installed by particular owning packages.  Would
  anyone who has
  this file, and does not think they created it from scratch, please find
 out
  what package
  it belongs to?  Thanks.

 I can't comment on the 02locale, because I have not used it.  However, on
 my
 machine setting up either the LANG=en_GB, or LC_ALL=en_GB does the trick
 and
 k3b does not complain about charset ANSI_X3.4-1968 and what not.

 Just a thought - have you run # locale-gen first?
 --

 Just to be sure, I re-ran locale-gen just now.  It reported two problems
with a Polish
locale (that I do not use):

treat ~ # locale-gen
 * Generating 6 locales (this might take a while) with 1 jobs
 *  (1/6) Generating en_US.ISO-8859-1 ...  [ ok ]
 *  (2/6) Generating en_US.UTF-8 ...  [ ok ]
 *  (3/6) Generating es_MX.ISO-8859-1 ...   [ ok ]
 *  (4/6) Generating fr_FR.ISO-8859-1 ... [ ok ]
 *  (5/6) Generating [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... [ ok ]
 *  (6/6) Generating pl_PL.ISO-8859-15 ...
/usr/share/i18n/locales/pl_PL:2130: LC_MONETARY: unknown character in field
`currency_symbol'
/usr/share/i18n/locales/pl_PL:2161: LC_TIME: unknown character in field
`day'  [ !! ]
 * Generation complete
treat ~ #


I then ran env-update, restarted X, chose K3B from a KDE menu, and it
complained again.
So: no joy.


-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] K3b complains about my locale

2008-05-31 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 31 May 2008 07:05:14 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

  Just to be sure, I re-ran locale-gen just now.  It reported two
  problems with a Polish locale (that I do not use):

 Then remove it from /etc/locale.gen. you can remove the Spanish and
 French ones too, if you don't use those languages.

 I did, just as an experiment.  It made no difference to the main issue: no
locale is defined
for programs started from KDE menus, and K3B is complaining about the
resulting
ASCII (1968) definition.

I'd rather that the locale-gen worked, but that's a side issue.


-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] K3b complains about my locale

2008-06-01 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Daniel Pielmeier 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kevin O'Gorman schrieb:

  On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  On Sat, 31 May 2008 07:05:14 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

  Just to be sure, I re-ran locale-gen just now.  It reported two
 problems with a Polish locale (that I do not use):

 Then remove it from /etc/locale.gen. you can remove the Spanish and
 French ones too, if you don't use those languages.

 I did, just as an experiment.  It made no difference to the main issue:
 no

 locale is defined
 for programs started from KDE menus, and K3B is complaining about the
 resulting
 ASCII (1968) definition.

 I'd rather that the locale-gen worked, but that's a side issue.


 Do you have something like LINGUAS=en in /etc/make.conf?


Yes, it reads

 LINGUAS=en fr de es pl

Because while I don't ordinarily use other languages, I have in the past had
to edit
some i18n files for a web page of mine.  See
http://hex.kosmanor.com/hex-bin/board,
which currently speaks English, Polish and Dutch.


 You can try to use the unicode charset [1] in /etc/env.d/02locale, maybe
 k3b wants this.

 LANG=en_US.utf8
 LC_ALL=en_US.utf8


 I also suggest going through the guide again and read thoroughly, often
 there is only a tiny mistake a typo or something which makes things fail.

 Can you tell us the output of:

 locale
 locale -a
 cat /etc/locale.gen


Of course.  Included at the bottom.



 [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/utf-8.xml

 Veeery Interesting

I didn't notice it at first, but the 02locale as suggested is making my Perl
scripts issue warnings,
including some very simple ones I wrote myself, so it's Perl itself that is
complaining.

perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = (unset),
LC_ALL = en_EN,
LANG = en_EN
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C).

Anyway, I added .utf8 to the lines in my 02locale file, and it made no
difference at all.
I don't see utf8 in any of the outputs, and k3b and perl still don't like
it.

The outputs requested (plus my 02locale file) were:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ locale
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
LANG=en_EN
LC_CTYPE=en_EN
LC_NUMERIC=en_EN
LC_TIME=en_EN
LC_COLLATE=en_EN
LC_MONETARY=en_EN
LC_MESSAGES=en_EN
LC_PAPER=en_EN
LC_NAME=en_EN
LC_ADDRESS=en_EN
LC_TELEPHONE=en_EN
LC_MEASUREMENT=en_EN
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_EN
LC_ALL=en_EN
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ locale -a
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_COLLATE to default locale: No such file or directory
C
POSIX
en_US
en_US.utf8
es_MX
fr_FR
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /etc/locale.gen
# /etc/locale.gen: list all of the locales you want to have on your system
#
# The format of each line:
# locale charmap
#
# Where locale is a locale located in /usr/share/i18n/locales/ and
# where charmap is a charmap located in /usr/share/i18n/charmaps/.
#
# All blank lines and lines starting with # are ignored.
#
# For the default list of supported combinations, see the file:
# /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED
#
# Whenever glibc is emerged, the locales listed here will be automatically
# rebuilt for you.  After updating this file, you can simply run
`locale-gen`
# yourself instead of re-emerging glibc.

en_US ISO-8859-1
en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8
#ja_JP.EUC-JP EUC-JP
#ja_JP.UTF-8 UTF-8
#ja_JP EUC-JP
#en_HK ISO-8859-1
#en_PH ISO-8859-1
#de_DE ISO-8859-1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ISO-8859-15
es_MX ISO-8859-1
#fa_IR UTF-8
fr_FR ISO-8859-1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ISO-8859-15
#it_IT ISO-8859-1
#pl_PL ISO-8859-15


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /etc/env.d/02locale
LANG=en_US.utf8
LC_ALL=en_us.utf8
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $


-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] K3b complains about my locale (SOLVED)

2008-06-01 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
TOP POSTED SUMMARY: operator error.  An incorrect setting of LANG and LC_ALL
were in /etc/profile.
They had been suggested by the guide, but were incorrectly done and override
the results of all the
02locale and locale.gen things.

Now one X restart later, k3b and perl and I are all happy.

Thanks for suggesting a re-reading, Daniel.

++ kevin


On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Daniel Pielmeier 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kevin O'Gorman schrieb:

   perl: warning: Setting locale failed.

 perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = (unset),
LC_ALL = en_EN,
LANG = en_EN
are supported and installed on your system.
 perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C).



  Anyway, I added .utf8 to the lines in my 02locale file, and it made no
 difference at all.
 I don't see utf8 in any of the outputs, and k3b and perl still don't like
 it.

 The outputs requested (plus my 02locale file) were:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ locale
 locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
 locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or
 directory
 locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
 LANG=en_EN
 LC_CTYPE=en_EN
 LC_NUMERIC=en_EN
 LC_TIME=en_EN
 LC_COLLATE=en_EN
 LC_MONETARY=en_EN
 LC_MESSAGES=en_EN
 LC_PAPER=en_EN
 LC_NAME=en_EN
 LC_ADDRESS=en_EN
 LC_TELEPHONE=en_EN
 LC_MEASUREMENT=en_EN
 LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_EN
 LC_ALL=en_EN
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ locale -a
 locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
 locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or
 directory
 locale: Cannot set LC_COLLATE to default locale: No such file or directory
 C
 POSIX
 en_US
 en_US.utf8
 es_MX
 fr_FR
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /etc/locale.gen
 # /etc/locale.gen: list all of the locales you want to have on your system
 #
 # The format of each line:
 # locale charmap
 #
 # Where locale is a locale located in /usr/share/i18n/locales/ and
 # where charmap is a charmap located in /usr/share/i18n/charmaps/.
 #
 # All blank lines and lines starting with # are ignored.
 #
 # For the default list of supported combinations, see the file:
 # /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED
 #
 # Whenever glibc is emerged, the locales listed here will be automatically
 # rebuilt for you.  After updating this file, you can simply run
 `locale-gen`
 # yourself instead of re-emerging glibc.

 en_US ISO-8859-1
 en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8
 #ja_JP.EUC-JP EUC-JP
 #ja_JP.UTF-8 UTF-8
 #ja_JP EUC-JP
 #en_HK ISO-8859-1
 #en_PH ISO-8859-1
 #de_DE ISO-8859-1
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISO-8859-15
 es_MX ISO-8859-1
 #fa_IR UTF-8
 fr_FR ISO-8859-1
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISO-8859-15
 #it_IT ISO-8859-1
 #pl_PL ISO-8859-15


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /etc/env.d/02locale
 LANG=en_US.utf8
 LC_ALL=en_us.utf8
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $



 Here is my output which I guess is correct as it works fine for me!

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ locale
 LANG=de_DE.utf8
 LC_CTYPE=de_DE.utf8
 LC_NUMERIC=de_DE.utf8
 LC_TIME=de_DE.utf8
 LC_COLLATE=de_DE.utf8
 LC_MONETARY=de_DE.utf8
 LC_MESSAGES=de_DE.utf8
 LC_PAPER=de_DE.utf8
 LC_NAME=de_DE.utf8
 LC_ADDRESS=de_DE.utf8
 LC_TELEPHONE=de_DE.utf8
 LC_MEASUREMENT=de_DE.utf8
 LC_IDENTIFICATION=de_DE.utf8
 LC_ALL=de_DE.utf8

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ locale -a
 C
 de_DE
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 de_DE.utf8
 en_GB
 en_GB.utf8
 en_US
 en_US.utf8
 POSIX

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /etc/locale.gen
 # /etc/locale.gen: list all of the locales you want to have on your system
 #
 # The format of each line:
 # locale charmap
 #
 # Where locale is a locale located in /usr/share/i18n/locales/ and
 # where charmap is a charmap located in /usr/share/i18n/charmaps/.
 #
 # All blank lines and lines starting with # are ignored.
 #
 # For the default list of supported combinations, see the file:
 # /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED
 #
 # Whenever glibc is emerged, the locales listed here will be automatically
 # rebuilt for you.  After updating this file, you can simply run
 `locale-gen`
 # yourself instead of re-emerging glibc.

 en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8
 en_US ISO-8859-1
 en_GB.UTF-8 UTF-8
 en_GB ISO-8859-1
 de_DE.UTF-8 UTF-8
 de_DE ISO-8859-1
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISO-8859-15


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /etc/env.d/02locale
 LANG=de_DE.utf8
 LC_ALL=de_DE.utf8
 GDM_LANG=de_DE.utf8
 LC_CTYPE=de_DE.utf8
 LC_NUMERIC=de_DE.utf8
 LC_TIME=de_DE.utf8
 LC_COLLATE=de_DE.utf8
 LC_MONETARY=de_DE.utf8
 LC_MESSAGES=en_US.utf8
 LC_PAPER=de_DE.utf8
 LC_NAME=de_DE.utf8
 LC_ADDRESS=de_DE.utf8
 LC_TELEPHONE=de_DE.utf8
 LC_MEASUREMENT=de_DE.utf8
 LC_IDENTIFICATION=de_DE.utf8

 Maybe locale-gen is not working properly at your system as perl says the
 locales are not installed. What are the contents of /usr/lib/locale/?

 I am guessing this as your locale output looks really weird. It does not
 show the .utf8 parts. And en_EN also looks strange as it is not a valid
 locale. It should be for instance LANG=en_US.utf8 like in 02locale. Plus the
 error messages of missing

Re: [gentoo-user] K3b complains about my locale (SOLVED)

2008-06-02 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 6:45 PM, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kevin O'Gorman ha scritto:

 TOP POSTED SUMMARY: operator error.  An incorrect setting of LANG and
 LC_ALL were in /etc/profile.
 They had been suggested by the guide, but were incorrectly done and
 override the results of all the
 02locale and locale.gen things.

 Now one X restart later, k3b and perl and I are all happy.

 Thanks for suggesting a re-reading, Daniel.


 Could you please provide the solution? I have the same problem and the
 thread is all but clear to me.


 In my case, the solution was to remove the (incorrect) LANG and LC_ALL
assignments I had edited into
/etc/profile.  The 02locale and locale.gen files did the job correctly.

I tracked this down by putting a lot of debugging stuff in the various shell
startup files.  They looked like this:
[ -e /etc/conf.d/D ]  echo This is /etc/profile\; LANG is $LANG\; LC_ALL
is $LC_ALL
...
[ -e /etc/conf.d/D ]  echo End of /etc/profile\; LANG is $LANG\; LC_ALL is
$LC_ALL

And I can switch them on and off by creating/rm-ing /etc/conf.d/D.  This
showed me where the variables
were getting values, and what the values were.  By the time I was done, I
had them in
~/.bashrc
~/.mybashrc (you may or may not have this file)
~/.bash_profile
/etc/profile
/etc/bash/bashrc

They are still there, but inactive since I have deleted /etc/conf.d/D (a
file of my own creation).  If you don't use
bash, you'll have to design your own variant of this approach.

++ kevin

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] vmware problem

2008-06-12 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 5:51 AM, Andrey Falko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 7:41 AM, David Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:42:50 -0400
  Andrey Falko wrote:
 
  ...[snip]...
 
  
   Attempted to upgrade vmware-modules from 1.0.0.15-r1 to
   1.0.0.17-r1 and found it blocked by vmware-server-1.0.5.80187:
  
  emerge --oneshot vmware-modules
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild U ] app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.17-r1
   [1.0.0.15-r1] [blocks B ]
   =app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.16 (is blocking
   app-emulation/vmware-server-1.0.5.80187)
   You need to emerge -C =app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.16
   first...I think.
  Sorry, I meant vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r1.
  
   It seems that the vmware-server ebuild only permits
   modules-1.0.0.15 ...
  
   Is any of this ringing any bells???
  
   Also, reading the google translation of the German posting, it
   seems to say there was a conflict with dual core and vmmon and
   (perhaps) disabling SMP, then building vmmon, then enabling SMP
   gave a working module. This is a guess and I've not yet tried it.
 
  OK.  I've removed all vmware builds.  emerge -C vmware-modules reports
 
--- Couldn't find 'vmware-modules' to unmerge.
 
  and 'find /var/db/pkg/ -name *vmware*' doesn't find anything.
 
  Doing a new emerge -aDtqv vmware-server brings in:
 
   [ebuild  N] app-emulation/vmware-server-1.0.5.80187
   [ebuild  N]  app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r1
 
  Then modprobe vmmon reports (as before):
 
 FATAL: Error inserting vmmon
(/lib/modules/2.6.25-gentoo-r4/misc/vmmon.ko): Invalid module format
 
  with /var/log/messages saying:
 
   Jun 12 07:26:15 osage vmmon: disagrees about version of symbol
   struct_module
 
  I've googled the above message and found this thread (from last night)
  and another thread in which the running kernel version didn't match the
  installed version of linux-headers.  I've running the 2.6.25-gentoo-r4
  kernel and have the same versions of linux-headers and gentoo-sources
  installed.
 
  Looking for more ideas as to what's wrong :-
 
  Regards,
 
  David
  --
  gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
 
 

 Opps, it was my mistake. I have 1.0.0.17 installed with ~x86
 workstation, server. According to vmware-server ebuild, only 1.0.0.15
 will work with the latest vmware-server. I'd file a bug in
 bugs.gentoo.org that vmware-server does not work for you with 2.6.25.
 As a work around, try to use 2.6.24 kernel or earlier.

 Sorry for my blunder.
 --
 gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

 I have been watching this thread and wondering why my vmware keeps
working.  Then I noticed that all the 2.6.25 kernels are ~x86.  If I were
you I'd check if they're ~arch for you too, and if so it might be best to
go back to stable versions of both vmware and the kernel.

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


[gentoo-user] Huh? Can't find a KDE volume control

2008-06-12 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
Okay, it's early and I'm feeling stupid.  But with all the KDE packages, I
can't find one that actually controls the sound volume.
Usually, I like to have the sound on but when I'm playing games it's
sometimes just too much noise.

I've looked in the KDE control center, and can't find anything that does the
job.  Presumably I haven't emerged the crucial
thing.  I do have arts emerged, and in my USE flags, or my KDE games would
be mute.

What do you all like to use?

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] Huh? Can't find a KDE volume control

2008-06-12 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 7:42 AM, Dirk Uys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Okay, it's early and I'm feeling stupid.  But with all the KDE packages,
 I
  can't find one that actually controls the sound volume.
  Usually, I like to have the sound on but when I'm playing games it's
  sometimes just too much noise.
 
  I've looked in the KDE control center, and can't find anything that does
 the
  job.  Presumably I haven't emerged the crucial
  thing.  I do have arts emerged, and in my USE flags, or my KDE games
 would
  be mute.
 
  What do you all like to use?
 
  --
  Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
 

 Try kmix. You emerge it separately. Then just lunch it and you're set.

 Regards
 Dirk


Okay, thanks .  But I just did that and it has no discernable effect on the
game sounds from, for instance,
konquest or  kmahjongg.

For that matter, neither does setting the Master control to zero on
alsamixer.

There must be something else I don't understand.  (there's always
something!)

++ kevin


-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] Huh? Can't find a KDE volume control

2008-06-12 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Thursday 12 June 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
  Okay, thanks .  But I just did that and it has no discernable effect
  on the game sounds from, for instance,
  konquest or  kmahjongg.
 
  For that matter, neither does setting the Master control to zero on
  alsamixer.
 
  There must be something else I don't understand.  (there's always
  something!)

 Did you run alsaconf to set things up, and is the correct module for
 your sound card loaded?

 I'm a bit vague about setup (it was years ago), but I just ran alsaconf to
see the startup window, and it looked familiar.   But even running that much
shut down the whole sound system, so I ran the whole thing.  Now I'm
having trouble getting any sound at all...

The modules loaded seem right: a slew of EMU10K1 things.

I guess I'll reboot and see what happens.

++ kevin




-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] Huh? Can't find a KDE volume control

2008-06-12 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 On Thursday 12 June 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
  Okay, thanks .  But I just did that and it has no discernable effect
  on the game sounds from, for instance,
  konquest or  kmahjongg.
 
  For that matter, neither does setting the Master control to zero on
  alsamixer.
 
  There must be something else I don't understand.  (there's always
  something!)

 Did you run alsaconf to set things up, and is the correct module for
 your sound card loaded?

 I'm a bit vague about setup (it was years ago), but I just ran alsaconf to
 see the startup window, and it looked familiar.   But even running that much
 shut down the whole sound system, so I ran the whole thing.  Now I'm
 having trouble getting any sound at all...

 The modules loaded seem right: a slew of EMU10K1 things.

 I guess I'll reboot and see what happens.

 ++ kevin

Well, it wasn't quite that bad.  Just restarting X got back my sounds.  All
of them.  Including the game
sounds, whether or not I mute output in kmix.  Hmph.

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] Huh? Can't find a KDE volume control

2008-06-12 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 On Thursday 12 June 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
  Okay, thanks .  But I just did that and it has no discernable effect
  on the game sounds from, for instance,
  konquest or  kmahjongg.
 
  For that matter, neither does setting the Master control to zero on
  alsamixer.
 
  There must be something else I don't understand.  (there's always
  something!)

 Did you run alsaconf to set things up, and is the correct module for
 your sound card loaded?

 I'm a bit vague about setup (it was years ago), but I just ran alsaconf
 to see the startup window, and it looked familiar.   But even running that
 much shut down the whole sound system, so I ran the whole thing.  Now I'm
 having trouble getting any sound at all...

 The modules loaded seem right: a slew of EMU10K1 things.

 I guess I'll reboot and see what happens.

 ++ kevin

 Well, it wasn't quite that bad.  Just restarting X got back my sounds.  All
 of them.  Including the game
 sounds, whether or not I mute output in kmix.  Hmph.


Okay, so I got mad and just shut down all the kmix sliders.  That finally
shut it up.  What's really unexpected
is that I get normal (to my low-functioning ears) sound just by turning on
wave surround.  With everything
else muted and all other sliders at the bottom.

It appears only one control actually does anything.  Double Hmph.

++ kevin



-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


[gentoo-user] gnucash pulls in firefox (when I already have firefox-bin)

2008-06-23 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I'm having trouble blocking gnucash from pulling in the full-compiled
version of firefox.
I've got package.provided with
www-client/mozilla-firefox
www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.14

but it still insists on pulling in the ebuild.  How do I stop this?

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] gnucash pulls in firefox (when I already have firefox-bin)

2008-06-23 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  I'm having trouble blocking gnucash from pulling in the full-compiled
  version of firefox.
  I've got package.provided with
  www-client/mozilla-firefox
  www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.14
 
  but it still insists on pulling in the ebuild.  How do I stop this?
 
  --
  Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
 

 Try putting Firefox in the package.provided file.


I think I mentioned I already did that.  There's a slight typo in that
there's an = before the one with a version number.

++ kevin


 Cheers,
 Mark
 --
 gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list




-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] gnucash pulls in firefox (when I already have firefox-bin)

2008-06-23 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
 I think I mentioned I already did that.  There's a slight typo in that
 there's an = before the one with a version number.

 ++ kevin

 In fact, portage is driving me slightly nuts (or nuttier) over this.

When I as for --tree, I get


treat Virtual Machines # emerge -at gnucash

These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N] app-office/gnucash-2.2.3  USE=quotes -chipcard -debug -hbci
-ofx
[ebuild  N]  app-doc/gnucash-docs-2.2.0
[ebuild  N]   gnome-extra/yelp-2.20.0  USE=-beagle -debug -xulrunner
[ebuild  N]www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.14  USE=gnome ipv6 java
-bindist -debug -filepicker -iceweasel -mozdevelop -moznopango
-restrict-javascript -xforms -xinerama -xprint LINGUAS=de en es fr pl -af
-ar -be -bg -ca -cs -da -el -en_GB -en_US -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fy -fy_NL
-ga -ga_IE -gu -gu_IN -he -hu -it -ja -ka -ko -ku -lt -mk -mn -nb -nb_NO -nl
-nn -nn_NO -pa -pa_IN -pt -pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru -sk -sl -sv -sv_SE -tr -uk
-zh -zh_CN -zh_TW


But when I try to find more about yelp, it denies needing it:
treat portage # equery -C depends  gnome-extra/yelp
[ Searching for packages depending on gnome-extra/yelp... ]
treat portage # eix yelp

++ kevin

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] gnucash pulls in firefox (when I already have firefox-bin)

2008-06-23 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I think I mentioned I already did that.  There's a slight typo in that
 there's an = before the one with a version number.

 ++ kevin

 In fact, portage is driving me slightly nuts (or nuttier) over this.

 When I as for --tree, I get


 treat Virtual Machines # emerge -at gnucash

 These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild  N] app-office/gnucash-2.2.3  USE=quotes -chipcard -debug
 -hbci -ofx
 [ebuild  N]  app-doc/gnucash-docs-2.2.0
 [ebuild  N]   gnome-extra/yelp-2.20.0  USE=-beagle -debug -xulrunner
 [ebuild  N]www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.14  USE=gnome ipv6
 java -bindist -debug -filepicker -iceweasel -mozdevelop -moznopango
 -restrict-javascript -xforms -xinerama -xprint LINGUAS=de en es fr pl -af
 -ar -be -bg -ca -cs -da -el -en_GB -en_US -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fy -fy_NL
 -ga -ga_IE -gu -gu_IN -he -hu -it -ja -ka -ko -ku -lt -mk -mn -nb -nb_NO -nl
 -nn -nn_NO -pa -pa_IN -pt -pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru -sk -sl -sv -sv_SE -tr -uk
 -zh -zh_CN -zh_TW


 But when I try to find more about yelp, it denies needing it:
 treat portage # equery -C depends  gnome-extra/yelp
 [ Searching for packages depending on gnome-extra/yelp... ]
 treat portage # eix yelp

 ++ kevin

 --
 Kevin O'Gorman, PhD




-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] gnucash pulls in firefox (when I already have firefox-bin)

2008-06-23 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:39:12 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

  treat Virtual Machines # emerge -at gnucash
 
  These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
 
  Calculating dependencies... done!
  [ebuild  N] app-office/gnucash-2.2.3  USE=quotes -chipcard -debug
  -hbci -ofx
  [ebuild  N]  app-doc/gnucash-docs-2.2.0
  [ebuild  N]   gnome-extra/yelp-2.20.0  USE=-beagle -debug
  -xulrunner [ebuild  N]www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.14
  USE=gnome ipv6 java

 yelp is pulling in firefox because you do not have xulrunner in USE.
 firefox-bin is no use, the program needs the header files for either
 firefox or xulrunner. The current recommendation is to use xulrunner
 instead of firefox in this situation, and in your USE flags.



This makes sense,  but I thought I already had that covered.  Here are the
two USE lines in my
/etc/make.conf -- note the last few entries in the main one.

USE=Xaw3d aim apache2 apm bash-completion bcmath -bluetooth calendar caps
cscope ctype dbm exif fastcgi foomaticdb gphoto2 guile icq imap imlib java
joystick libwww mailwrapper mbox mcal mime mmap mmx motif mpi mysql nis
nsplugin odbc offensive openal oscar pic posix postgres ppds ruby samba snmp
sockets sse ssl svga symlink sysvipc tetex usb xpm xulrunner yahoo -firefox
-seamonkey
USE=$USE tk   # Mostly so that python supports fetchmailconf

I'll try explicitly tweaking the yelp USE flags, but it looks to me like
some weirdness...

++ kevin

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[gentoo-user] SOLVED: Re: gnucash pulls in firefox (when I already have firefox-bin)

2008-06-23 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:39:12 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

  treat Virtual Machines # emerge -at gnucash
 
  These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
 
  Calculating dependencies... done!
  [ebuild  N] app-office/gnucash-2.2.3  USE=quotes -chipcard -debug
  -hbci -ofx
  [ebuild  N]  app-doc/gnucash-docs-2.2.0
  [ebuild  N]   gnome-extra/yelp-2.20.0  USE=-beagle -debug
  -xulrunner [ebuild  N]www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.14
  USE=gnome ipv6 java

 yelp is pulling in firefox because you do not have xulrunner in USE.
 firefox-bin is no use, the program needs the header files for either
 firefox or xulrunner. The current recommendation is to use xulrunner
 instead of firefox in this situation, and in your USE flags.



 This makes sense,  but I thought I already had that covered.  Here are the
 two USE lines in my
 /etc/make.conf -- note the last few entries in the main one.

 USE=Xaw3d aim apache2 apm bash-completion bcmath -bluetooth calendar caps
 cscope ctype dbm exif fastcgi foomaticdb gphoto2 guile icq imap imlib java
 joystick libwww mailwrapper mbox mcal mime mmap mmx motif mpi mysql nis
 nsplugin odbc offensive openal oscar pic posix postgres ppds ruby samba snmp
 sockets sse ssl svga symlink sysvipc tetex usb xpm xulrunner yahoo -firefox
 -seamonkey
 USE=$USE tk   # Mostly so that python supports fetchmailconf

 I'll try explicitly tweaking the yelp USE flags, but it looks to me like
 some weirdness...

 ++ kevin


I tried that, and it may have gotten me closer to a solution, or closer to
the catch-22.  I can't tell which yet.
package.use explicitly turns off xulrunner for yelp.  I must have thought I
needed to do this at some point
But I was probably just floundering around.  I untweaked it and now the
emerge is going forward.  I think this
will solve the problem.

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


[gentoo-user] SOLVED Re: gnucash pulls in firefox (when I already have firefox-bin)

2008-06-26 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Dan Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tuesday 24 June 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
  On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:39:12 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
treat Virtual Machines # emerge -at gnucash
   
These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
   
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N] app-office/gnucash-2.2.3  USE=quotes -chipcard
 -debug
-hbci -ofx
[ebuild  N]  app-doc/gnucash-docs-2.2.0
[ebuild  N]   gnome-extra/yelp-2.20.0  USE=-beagle -debug
-xulrunner [ebuild  N]www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.14
USE=gnome ipv6 java
  
   yelp is pulling in firefox because you do not have xulrunner in USE.
   firefox-bin is no use, the program needs the header files for either
   firefox or xulrunner. The current recommendation is to use xulrunner
   instead of firefox in this situation, and in your USE flags.
 
  This makes sense,  but I thought I already had that covered.  Here are
 the
  two USE lines in my
  /etc/make.conf -- note the last few entries in the main one.
 
  USE=Xaw3d aim apache2 apm bash-completion bcmath -bluetooth calendar
 caps
  cscope ctype dbm exif fastcgi foomaticdb gphoto2 guile icq imap imlib
 java
  joystick libwww mailwrapper mbox mcal mime mmap mmx motif mpi mysql nis
  nsplugin odbc offensive openal oscar pic posix postgres ppds ruby samba
  snmp sockets sse ssl svga symlink sysvipc tetex usb xpm xulrunner yahoo
  -firefox -seamonkey

 Is all this on one line and the MUA has folded the line or are you missing
 the
 \ on each line?

 It's all on one line.

Sorting out my use flags to put xulrunner on yelp has fixed my problems.
Thanks to all



-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] gnucash pulls in firefox (when I already have firefox-bin)

2008-06-26 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 2:19 AM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:40:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

  This makes sense. What doesn't make sense is why does an accounting
  package need to build against a rendering engine? I can't see the
  connection

 The doc USE flag makes gnucash depend on gnucash-docs, which in turn
 depends on yelp. That's what requires the HTML engine.

 I'm getting OT here, but I just wonder if FF-bin couldn't export a set of
headers, as the kernels do.


-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


[gentoo-user] spamassassin-3.2.1-r1 emerge failure

2008-07-06 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
For reasons discussed elsewhere, I've got to get serious about spam.  But my
first 3 attempts to emerge spamassassin have failed. (on x86).

For one thing, there's a detection process near the beginning that is
failing to detect Perl modules that are actually present, and from portage
not CPAN.
First it was Digest-SHA1.  Re-emerging it fixed that, so maybe there was
bitrot somewhere.  But now it's doing the same thing with Mail::DKIM, but
that's fortunately not a show-stopper like SHA1, but it's still worrisome.

Now the show-stopper is some access violations that make no sense to me.  It
says it could not 'mkdir /usr/share/spamassassin', but I could do it
from the command line (as root).  Having done it, it still complained but
proceeded to report an access violation on an attempt to 'chmod 0644
something'.
I could also do that one from the command-line.  G.

Has anyone seen this, and know of a workaround?

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


[gentoo-user] drive configuration changes on reboot; blkid.tab defeats UUIDs

2008-07-07 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I had cause to reboot my gentoo box this morning, and it was an
unexpected disaster.
For some reason, my two PCI-X SATA controllers decided to switch
places in the /dev/sd* lists.
My /etc/fstab had explicit drive paths hard-coded, and they tried to
mount stuff that
didn't exist, and naturally failed.  I wound up in a root shell under
instructions to clean this
up.

I decided to go with UUIDs in /etc/fstab.  After a half-hour or so
pfutzing around with these
(how do you find the UUID of an unmounted partition when you're not
even really sure
what kind of filesystem it has), I got everything to mount with mount
-a, and I rebooted.

The drives had changed names again, the sort of thing that UUIDs were
designed to
deal with, but the mount command was stubbornly using the old names.
Bootup failed and
I was back in a root shell.  Thank goodness my root directory is still
on an HDA drive.
But where did these names come from -- they weren't in /etc/fstab any
more.  I did a system
call trace on mount(1) to find out.

There's a file I never heard of or noticed before: /etc/blkid.tab, and
a backup, that seem to
override the UUIDs, putting us back in the world we were in before
Labels and UUIDs.

G.

I can get a good boot if I rm blkid.tab and its backup before I shut down.

So:

1) Can I disable blkid.tab?  In the presence of UUIDs this seems sensible.
2) Does anyone know if labels are also defeated?  I don't feel like
rebooting any more
today just to find out.
3) Can we just stop this madness somehow?

++ kevin

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean question

2007-07-21 Thread Kevin O'Gorman

On 7/20/07, Alex Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi there!

Any idea why emerge --depclean wants to remove
app-shells/bash-completion-config? It it needed by some installed
packages:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ -- equery depends app-shells/bash-completion-config
[ Searching for packages depending on app-shells/bash-completion-config...
]
app-editors/vim-7.0.235 (bash-completion?
app-shells/bash-completion-config)
app-editors/vim-core-7.0.235 (bash-completion?
app-shells/bash-completion-config)
app-misc/figlet-222 (bash-completion? app-shells/bash-completion-config)
app-portage/genlop-0.30.7 (bash-completion?
app-shells/bash-completion-config)
app-portage/udept-0.5.99.0.2.95-r1 (bash-completion?
app-shells/bash-completion-config)
dev-util/subversion-1.3.2-r4 (bash-completion?
app-shells/bash-completion-config)

I have the bash-completion USE flag set, so why does emerge --depclean
want to remove this package? I also tried dep -a -d
(from app-portage/udept), it also wants to remove it.

My system is up to date, I did emerge -NuD world and revdep-rebuild.

This is no big problem of course, I am just curious and would like to
understand what is going on.




I don't know any of the details, but I can report this: my system is also
clean,
has the bash-completion USE flag, and does _not_ have the bash-completion
package installed.  Everything seems to work just fine.

Moreover, I use the bash themes from Linux Journal of a year or so ago,
which relies heavily on the complete builtin.

So you have to ask yourself what capability are you missing that you want?


++ kevin

--
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] Index to /usr/share/doc/...html... a reinvented wheel?

2007-07-21 Thread Kevin O'Gorman

On 7/4/07, Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Wednesday 04 July 2007 12:39:48 pm Willie Wong wrote:

 I doubt that his script (which he mentions is to be run in cron) is
 meant to actually be placed in the cgi-bin directory for apache.

 It would certainly be annoying to need to have an apache server
 running just to read documentation.


There are some advantages serving the index out via httpd. Anyone you
allow
can read your documents...

I've been working on (in my very spare time) on a similar project. Mine is
in
python. It scans an entire hard drive for index.html's, chm's and pdf's...
then pours it's findings into a single index.html.

The script is no where complete, free for the asking though wth setup
tips...



Hey, thanks for this script.  It's an interesting start, at least.  A couple
of points:
1)  Your copyright notice is kind of hidden in the html head tag.  I
couldn't
   immediatedly identify the author when looking at the code.  I don't
think
   you can copyright the output anyway...

2) As it stands, the code is not much use to me because of the copyright.
If
  you'd license it under your favorite Open Source license, this would be
pretty
  handy.

3) It outputs everything in the order found, which makes it hard to browse.




--
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


[gentoo-user] What is portage trying to tell me?

2007-07-22 Thread Kevin O'Gorman

I seem to see this from time to time when I look at the emerge logs that are
emailed to me by portage, and I never know what to make of it.
This one is from kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.5:

LOG: preinst
/usr/kde/3.5/share/applications/kde/panel_appearance.desktop: required
key Name not found --
required key Type not found

Why is this allowed to occur?  What am I expected to do about it, and how
would I know that, given that I'm a user, not a developer?

++ kevin

--
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


[gentoo-user] Evince won't emerge any more

2007-08-21 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
/gentoo/pub http://gentoo.inf.elte.hu/
ftp://ftp.isu.edu.tw/pub/Linux/Gentoo http://gentoo.scphost.com;
MAKEOPTS=-j4
PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times
--compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats
--timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages
--filter=H_**/files/digest-*
PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp
PORTDIR=/usr/portage
PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage
SYNC=rsync://rsync.namerica.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
USE=X Xaw3d a52 aac aalib acl acpi adns aim alsa apache2 apm arts audiofile
bash-completion bcmath berkdb bitmap-fonts bzip2 cairo calendar caps cdr cli
cracklib crypt cscope ctype cups dbm dbus dbx doc dri dvd dvdr eds emacs
emboss encode esd exif fam fastcgi firefox flatfile foomaticdb fortran ftp
gdbm gif gnome gphoto2 gpm gstreamer gtk guile hal iconv icq imap imlib ipv6
isdnlog java joystick jpeg jpeg2k junit kde kdeenablefinal ldap libwww mad
mbox mcal midi mikmod mime mmap mmx motif mp3 mpeg mpi mudflap mysql ncurses
nis nls nptl nptlonly nsplugin odbc offensive ogg openal opengl openmp oscar
oss pam pcre pdf perl pic png posix postgres ppds pppd python qt3 qt4
quicktime readline reflection ruby sdl session snmp sockets spell spl sse
ssl svga sysvipc tcl tcpd tetex tiff tk truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts
unicode usb vorbis win32codecs x86 xml xorg xpm xprint xv yahoo zlib
ALSA_CARDS=ali5451 als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci emu10k1
emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0 intel8x0m
maestro3 trident usb-audio via82xx via82xx-modem ymfpci
ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file
hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi null plug rate
route share shm softvol ELIBC=glibc INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse
joystick KERNEL=linux LCD_DEVICES=bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780
lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text USERLAND=GNU VIDEO_CARDS=vga r128
mach64 radeon fbdev fglrx vesa
Unset:  CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS,
LINGUAS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Evince won't emerge any more

2007-08-21 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On 8/21/07, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wednesday 22 August 2007 01:57:07 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
  When I try to (re)-emerge evince, it fails while making the help system.
  This has been true for about a week.
 
  Here's the tail end of what's on the console, followed by emerge --info:
 [SNIP]
element with the role attribute set to maintainer to evince.xml.
  make[2]: *** [evince-C.omf] Error 10
  make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
  make[2]: *** [evince-bg.omf] Error 10
  make[2]: *** [evince-el.omf] Error 10
  make[2]: *** [evince-es.omf] Error 10
  make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/app-text/evince-0.6.1-r3
  /work/evince-0.6.1/help'
  make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
  make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/app-text/evince-0.6.1-r3
  /work/evince-0.6.1'
  make: *** [all] Error 2
 
  !!! ERROR: app-text/evince-0.6.1-r3 failed.

 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=178528 ?

 --
 Bo Andresen

 The commentary describes gnome-doc-utils-0.10-* as being masked, but it
appears that 0-10-3 is not masked.  If that's right,then there's some
consistency
problems in the stable tree.

++ kevin


-- 
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[gentoo-user] Oddities in apache2 update, other init bizarrity.

2007-09-04 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
Stable x86 just got a new apache server, and it's puzzling me.

For one thing, /etc/conf.d/apache2 now ends with this

# Environment variables to keep
# All environment variables are cleared from apache
# Use this to preserve some of them
# NOTE!!! It's very important that this contains PATH
# TODO: Phase this out in favor of /etc/conf.d/env_whitelist
#KEEPENV=PATH

It has said all along that it's important to have PATH, but now it's
commented out without any replacement in env_whitelist.
Moreover, there's no example in env_whitelist to show the syntax.  I just
put PATH in there on  a line of its own, and hoped for the best.

The bigger puzzle is this one:  I can't stop apache because it can't be
found, but I also can't start it because it's already running.  It is in
fact running and serving web pages.  But I'd like the init stuff to be a lot
more consistent.

The confusion about cupsd and vmware is a separate issue I've been meaning
to ask about for months; I don't think it has anything to do with apache2.

treat ~ # cd /etc/init.d
treat init.d # ./apache2 stop
 * Stopping apache2 ...
No /usr/sbin/apache2 found running; none
killed.
[ !! ]
treat init.d # ./apache2 start
 * WARNING:  apache2 has already been started.
treat init.d # ./apache2 status
 * Caching service dependencies ...
 *  Service 'cupsd' should be AFTER service 'vmware', but one of
 *  the services 'vmware' depends on, depends on
'cupsd'!
[ ok ]
 * status:  started
treat init.d #
-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


[gentoo-user] Dead apache (cannot listen)

2007-09-06 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
Somewhere in the update to 2.2.4-r12, listening got lost.  I tried to follow
instructions,
but apparently failed.

Here's what happens (minus a MaxClients warning that doesn't look like a
show-stopper):

treat init.d # ./apache2 start
 * Starting apache2 ...
(98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address
64.166.164.49:80
no listening sockets available, shutting down
Unable to open
logs
[ !! ]
treat init.d #

So it got my instructions to listen, but failed.

Looking at 'netstat --inet -l' does not show any listeners or open sockets
on port 80.

What else should I look at?

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] Dead apache (cannot listen)

2007-09-07 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
Thanks for top-posting  :o)

This is still a bit mysterious for me.  I've tried to do what you said, but
apache still fails to start because it cannot
open a listening port.  Here's what I've figured out about what I have:
/etc/conf.c/apache2 contains
APACHE2_OPTS=-D DEFAULT_VHOST -D INFO -D LANGUAGE -D MANUAL -D SSL -D
SSL_DEFAULT_VHOST -D USERDIR
to which I contributed only USERDIR -- the other stuff came with the
ebuild.  Maybe I should drop the SSL stuff since my server has
no https stuff (It does have htaccess and htpasswd stuff, but I think that's
different).  In any event, removing the SSL stuff does not change
the problem.

Everything else in that file is commented out, which I take to mean that
default values are used.  Among the defaults is
#CONFIGFILE=/etc/apache2/httpd.conf
and that file contains
   Include /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/*.conf
  And /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/  includes
 00_default_ssl_vhost.confand   00_default_vhost.conf

My 00_default_vhost.conf:
=== start 00_default_vhost.conf ==
# If your host doesn't have a registered DNS name, enter its IP address
here.
#
#ServerName www.example.com:80
ServerName www.kosmanor.com:80

#KOSMANOR changes
#Listen 80
Listen 64.166.164.49:80
Listen localhost:80

# DocumentRoot: The directory out of which you will serve your
# documents. By default, all requests are taken from this directory, but
# symbolic links and aliases may be used to point to other locations.
#
# If you change this to something that isn't under /var/www then suexec
# will no longer work.
DocumentRoot /var/www/localhost/htdocs

# This should be changed to whatever you set DocumentRoot to.
Directory /var/www/localhost/htdocs
# Possible values for the Options directive are None, All,
# or any combination of:
#   Indexes Includes FollowSymLinks SymLinksifOwnerMatch ExecCGI
MultiViews
#
# Note that MultiViews must be named *explicitly* --- Options
All
# doesn't give it to you.
#
# The Options directive is both complicated and important.  Please
see
# http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#options
# for more information.
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks

# AllowOverride controls what directives may be placed in .htaccess
files.
# It can be All, None, or any combination of the keywords:
#   Options FileInfo AuthConfig Limit
AllowOverride All

# Controls who can get stuff from this server.
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory

IfModule alias_module
# Redirect: Allows you to tell clients about documents that used to
# exist in your server's namespace, but do not anymore. The client
# will make a new request for the document at its new location.
# Example:
#   Redirect permanent /foo http://www.example.com/bar

# Alias: Maps web paths into filesystem paths and is used to
# access content that does not live under the DocumentRoot.
# Example:
#   Alias /webpath /full/filesystem/path
#
# If you include a trailing / on /webpath then the server will
# require it to be present in the URL.  You will also likely
# need to provide a Directory section to allow access to
# the filesystem path.

# ScriptAlias: This controls which directories contain server
scripts.
# ScriptAliases are essentially the same as Aliases, except that
# documents in the target directory are treated as applications and
# run by the server when requested rather than as documents sent to
the
# client.  The same rules about trailing / apply to ScriptAlias
# directives as to Alias.
ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /var/www/localhost/cgi-bin/
/IfModule

# /var/www/localhost/cgi-bin should be changed to whatever your
ScriptAliased
# CGI directory exists, if you have that configured.
Directory /var/www/localhost/cgi-bin
AllowOverride None
Options None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory

# vim: ts=4 filetype=apache
=== end 00_default_vhost.conf ==


On 9/6/07, Alexander Reitzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 you should look at your vhost configs. take an example of the current
 default_vhost config and make sure to keep the -D DEFAULT_VHOST
 in /etc/conf.d/apache2
 Ive had the same problem with one of my servers and after using the
 default
 thiggie it worked fine.

 Am Freitag, 7. September 2007 03:08:43 schrieb Kevin O'Gorman:
  Somewhere in the update to 2.2.4-r12, listening got lost.  I tried to
  follow instructions,
  but apparently failed.
 
  Here's what happens (minus a MaxClients warning that doesn't look like a
  show-stopper):
 
  treat init.d # ./apache2 start
   * Starting apache2 ...
  (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address
  64.166.164.49:80
  no listening

Re: [gentoo-user] Dead apache (cannot listen)

2007-09-07 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On 9/7/07, Steen Eugen Poulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kevin O'Gorman skrev:
  My 00_default_vhost.conf:
  === start 00_default_vhost.conf ==
  # If your host doesn't have a registered DNS name, enter its IP address
  here.
  #
  #ServerName www.example.com:80 http://www.example.com:80
  ServerName www.kosmanor.com:80 http://www.kosmanor.com:80
 
  #KOSMANOR changes
  #Listen 80
  Listen 64.166.164.49:80 http://64.166.164.49:80
  Listen localhost:80

 Thats not a vhost configuration, so it's a bit confusing why your trying
 to use Gentoo's default vhost config file and making non vhost configs
 and I bet it isn't liking the missing:

 NameVirtualHost *:80 (You will have to check the apache2 doc for the
 VirtualIP version of NameVirtualHost)

 VirtualHost *:80

 If you want to make a non vhost configuration, then do so from the
 ground up, don't mix vhost and non vhost unless you want a mess.

 The reason you get :80 already bound, is because your configuration bind
 twice to the same IP. It's Apache itself that bind twice and bails on
 the second attempt.

 Not having used this configuration layout in years, I would guess
 ServerName is the one creating the listening socket, maybe because it's
 placed before Listen.


A workaround has been found (see below).

As may be obvious by now, I don't understand much about configuring apache.
I just used what dropped in when I installed Gentoo around 2003, and tried
to adapt as time and updates came along.  My needs are fairly simple: a
basic server on a single IP plus localhost, using the default port 80.
Static and CGI pages only, no secure applications.  Users (only me,
actually) have a page in public_html.  I intend to use mod_python
eventually, or write my own module, but that's for later.

I have not a clue how to build a configuration from the ground up, and I'm
hoping to not have to learn.  Since it would be a singleton excercise, I
would just forget it anyway in the midst of many other things that claim my
attention.

Workaround:
In any event, making ServerName come after Listen, or commenting it out
completely, do not change the symptoms at all.  However, commenting out all
Listen lines does allow apache to start.  It seems you're right and apache
is colliding with itself, but I don't know why, as I don't see any other
Listen directives.  This is at best a stopgap because apache's now listening
promiscuously, which I do not like at all.

I'm hoping for more help, but my fallback is to save my config files,
unmerge apache completely, re-emerge it and see if the default configuration
can be made to work right.  That might turn out to be a lot of work, for
which read a lot of time.

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] Dead apache (cannot listen)

2007-09-07 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
Mystery solved.  As expected: my bad.  Details at the bottom

On 9/7/07, Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 9/7/07, Steen Eugen Poulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Kevin O'Gorman skrev:
   My 00_default_vhost.conf:
   === start 00_default_vhost.conf ==
   # If your host doesn't have a registered DNS name, enter its IP
  address
   here.
   #
   #ServerName www.example.com:80 http://www.example.com:80
   ServerName www.kosmanor.com:80 http://www.kosmanor.com:80
  
   #KOSMANOR changes
   #Listen 80
   Listen 64.166.164.49:80 http://64.166.164.49:80
   Listen localhost:80
 
  Thats not a vhost configuration, so it's a bit confusing why your trying
  to use Gentoo's default vhost config file and making non vhost configs
  and I bet it isn't liking the missing:
 
  NameVirtualHost *:80 (You will have to check the apache2 doc for the
  VirtualIP version of NameVirtualHost)
 
  VirtualHost *:80
 
  If you want to make a non vhost configuration, then do so from the
  ground up, don't mix vhost and non vhost unless you want a mess.
 
  The reason you get :80 already bound, is because your configuration bind
  twice to the same IP. It's Apache itself that bind twice and bails on
  the second attempt.
 
  Not having used this configuration layout in years, I would guess
  ServerName is the one creating the listening socket, maybe because it's
  placed before Listen.


 A workaround has been found (see below).

 As may be obvious by now, I don't understand much about configuring
 apache. I just used what dropped in when I installed Gentoo around 2003, and
 tried to adapt as time and updates came along.  My needs are fairly simple:
 a basic server on a single IP plus localhost, using the default port 80.
 Static and CGI pages only, no secure applications.  Users (only me,
 actually) have a page in public_html.  I intend to use mod_python
 eventually, or write my own module, but that's for later.

 I have not a clue how to build a configuration from the ground up, and
 I'm hoping to not have to learn.  Since it would be a singleton excercise, I
 would just forget it anyway in the midst of many other things that claim my
 attention.

 Workaround:
 In any event, making ServerName come after Listen, or commenting it out
 completely, do not change the symptoms at all.  However, commenting out all
 Listen lines does allow apache to start.  It seems you're right and apache
 is colliding with itself, but I don't know why, as I don't see any other
 Listen directives.  This is at best a stopgap because apache's now listening
 promiscuously, which I do not like at all.

 I'm hoping for more help, but my fallback is to save my config files,
 unmerge apache completely, re-emerge it and see if the default configuration
 can be made to work right.  That might turn out to be a lot of work, for
 which read a lot of time.


I was sure I checked for duplicate Listen directives, but I missed one.
Fixing that allowed apache to start.
As pennance, I hunted down all my tailorings and put them in a single
include file.  In the process I wound
up eliminating a bunch of other duplications.  Hopefully things will be more
sane soon.

But not right away -- but I'll start another thread for that.

++ kevin



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[gentoo-user] Cleaning up perl

2007-09-08 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I've found myself in a mess with perl (see other thread).  In the process I
discovered what appears to be a bunch of old versions of perl-related
things.  In /usr/lib/perl5, there are subdirectories over 4 years old.
Here's the complete list

5.8.2  5.8.4  5.8.5  5.8.6  5.8.7  5.8.8  site_perl  vendor_perl

The current perl version is 5.8.8.  The versions 5.8.2 and 5.8.4 date from
2004.

Can I safely just delete them?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning up perl

2007-09-08 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On 9/8/07, Mike Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Saturday 08 September 2007 16:13:41 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
  Can I safely just delete them?

 Not really.
 But gentoo provides a tool to sort it.

 # perl-cleaner reallyall

 --
 Mike William


Interesting.  I did not know about this cleaner.

Unfortunately, while it tries to do a number of things, they all fail in the
same way: a problem with Errno.pm.
I guess using perl to clean up perl is not all that robust in this case.

++ kevin




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Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning up perl

2007-09-08 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On 9/8/07, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Am Samstag, 8. September 2007 schrieb Kevin O'Gorman:

  Unfortunately, while it tries to do a number of things, they all fail in
  the same way: a problem with Errno.pm.
  I guess using perl to clean up perl is not all that robust in this case.

 I still prefer good old cpan over gentoo' g-cpan to mainatain perl
 modules.

 Before upgrading perl, fire up cpan, create a bundle file of all your
 installed modules using the autobundle command and after the upgrade,
 start
 cpan again and run install Bundle::Snapshot-date.

 I also use it to keep installed perl modules uptodate. Just use the
 upgrade
 command in cpan.

 If you did this, you can simply remove the old 5.8.x directories.

 HTH...

 Dirk


It's too late for me now to do any of that.  I'm hosed.
I can build perl, but I cannot run perl-cleaner.  I can't run h2ph.  There
are probably
a bunch of other things I can't do also.

Accordingly, I'm renaming the offending Errno.pm, knowing that there's
another more
recent one around.  I'm hoping that it's located by @INC or some such.

At the moment, it seems to be working.

++ kevin




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Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning up perl

2007-09-09 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On 9/9/07, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Am Samstag, 8. September 2007 schrieb Kevin O'Gorman:
  On 9/8/07, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Am Samstag, 8. September 2007 schrieb Kevin O'Gorman:
Unfortunately, while it tries to do a number of things, they all
 fail
in the same way: a problem with Errno.pm.
I guess using perl to clean up perl is not all that robust in this
case.
  
   I still prefer good old cpan over gentoo' g-cpan to mainatain perl
   modules.
  
   Before upgrading perl, fire up cpan, create a bundle file of all your
   installed modules using the autobundle command and after the upgrade,
   start
   cpan again and run install Bundle::Snapshot-date.
  
   I also use it to keep installed perl modules uptodate. Just use the
   upgrade
   command in cpan.
  
   If you did this, you can simply remove the old 5.8.x directories.
 
  It's too late for me now to do any of that.

 No, not really. You only need perl to run cpan.

  I can build perl, but I cannot run perl-cleaner.

 You don't need to. Remove the old 5.8.x directories and install the
 modules
 you had installed there again (if needed), using cpan this time. You can
 find
 out which packages were installed by searching for files named
 .packlist.
 Each directory which contains such a file corresponds to one perl module.

 Eventually re-emerge perl after removal of the old directories. This
 should
 clean up your perl installation.

 HTH...

 Dirk


I eventually got most things back by removing the site-perl version of
Errno.pm (installed by CPAN sometime in the past, I think.)  There was
another, more recent version which was apparently found automatically,
allowing things to proceed.  I have also removed a bunch of other things
that were in site-perl, especially everything I could replace with a version
from portage.

I have now been able to run 'perl-cleaner reallyall', and have rebuilt perl
both with and without the ithreads USE-flag (see separate thread).  So I
suppose I'm now in good shape. CPAN also works, though I'm a bit reluctant
to use it since that's how I got in this mess in the first place.  I'd
rather rely on portage to keep things current and consistent.   H.
Does anyone know how to run CPAN in a cron job, just enough to run the 'r'
command?  I do that with portage to tell me when I have to worry about
revdep or depclean.

++ kevin

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[gentoo-user] Seeking threading advice in Perl and Apache

2007-09-09 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I am hoping to use mod_perl in apache, but there's a decision to be made.
Mod_perl insists that if apache has thread support, perl must also have it.
I originally enabled the 'threads' USE-flag because I thought it might be
useful, but it turns out to affect apache, while leaving Perl unthreaded,
and I didn't notice until I went to build mod_perl, and it refused to
emerge.

When I enabled the 'ithread' USE-flag for Perl, it issued a warning that
this might not be good for the health of all the packages in the system.
H.

So I'm looking for experience and/or advice.  Is threaded Perl an okay
idea?  Is it useful?  Come to think of it, what difference does threading
make to Apache?  Is it generally useful?

Also: why is mod_python not subject to the same concerns?  I notice that
I've always build it with -nothreads, which seems to be the default.  I
guess that means it's okay with threading.

++ kevin

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[gentoo-user] Dual failures in emerge -aDNvu world

2007-09-17 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
/build.log'.

treat ~ # vim


And for xorg-docs:

...  lots like the following
jade:/usr/share/sgml/docbook/xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4/ent/iso-lat1.ent:46:19:E:
X00F2 is not a function name
jade:/usr/share/sgml/docbook/xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4/ent/iso-lat1.ent:47:19:E:
X00D2 is not a function name
jade:/usr/share/sgml/docbook/xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4/ent/iso-lat1.ent:48:19:E:
X00F8 is not a function name
jade:/usr/share/sgml/docbook/xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4/ent/iso-lat1.ent:49:19:E:
X00D8 is not a function name
jade:/usr/share/sgml/docbook/xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4/ent/iso-lat1.ent:50:19:E:
X00F5 is not a function name
jade:/usr/share/sgml/docbook/xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4/ent/iso-lat1.ent:51:19:E:
X00D5 is not a function name
jade:/usr/share/sgml/docbook/xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4/ent/iso-lat1.ent:52:17:E:
X00F6 is not a function name
jade:/usr/share/sgml/docbook/xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4/ent/iso-lat1.ent:53:17:E:
X00D6 is not a function name
jade:/usr/share/sgml/docbook/xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4/ent/iso-lat1.ent:54:18:E:
X00DF is not a function name
jade:/usr/share/sgml/docbook/xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4/ent/iso-lat1.ent:55:18:E:
X00FE is not a function name
jade:/usr/share/sgml/docbook/xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4/ent/iso-lat1.ent:56:18:E:
X00DE is not a function name
jade:/usr/share/sgml/docbook/xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4/ent/iso-lat1.ent:57:19:E:
X00FA is not a function name
jade:/usr/share/sgml/docbook/xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4/ent/iso-lat1.ent:58:19:E:
X00DA is not a function name
jade:/usr/share/sgml/docbook/xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4/ent/iso-lat1.ent:59:18:E:
X00FB is not a function name
jade:/usr/share/sgml/docbook/xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4/ent/iso-lat1.ent:60:18:E:
X00DB is not a function name
jade:/usr/share/sgml/docbook/xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4/ent/iso-lat1.ent:61:19:E:
X00F9 is not a function name
jade:/usr/share/sgml/docbook/xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4/ent/iso-lat1.ent:62:19:E:
X00D9 is not a function name
jade:/usr/share/sgml/docbook/xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4/ent/iso-lat1.ent:63:17:E:
X00FC is not a function name
jade:/usr/share/sgml/docbook/xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4/ent/iso-lat1.ent:64:17:E:
X00DC is not a function name
jade:/usr/share/sgml/docbook/xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4/ent/iso-lat1.ent:65:19:E:
X00FD is not a function name
jade:/usr/share/sgml/docbook/xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4/ent/iso-lat1.ent:66:19:E:
X00DD is not a function name
jade:/usr/share/sgml/docbook/xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4/ent/iso-lat1.ent:67:17:E:
X00FF is not a function name
jade:/usr/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl-stylesheets-1.79/print/../common/../common/dbl1ru.ent:188:290:Q:
length of interpreted parameter literal must not exceed LITLEN (240)
jade:/usr/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl-stylesheets-1.79/print/../common/../common/dbl1ru.ent:189:290:Q:
length of interpreted parameter literal must not exceed LITLEN (240)
/usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/backends/pdf: line 15: pdfjadetex:
command not found
make[2]: *** [Xserver-spec.pdf] Error 9
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/app-doc/xorg-docs-1.4-r1
/work/xorg-docs-1.4/sgml/core'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/app-doc/xorg-docs-1.4-r1
/work/xorg-docs-1.4/sgml'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

!!! ERROR: app-doc/xorg-docs-1.4-r1 failed.
Call stack:
  ebuild.sh, line 1638:   Called dyn_compile
  ebuild.sh, line 985:   Called qa_call 'src_compile'
  ebuild.sh, line 44:   Called src_compile
  ebuild.sh, line 1328:   Called x-modular_src_compile
  x-modular.eclass, line 337:   Called x-modular_src_make
  x-modular.eclass, line 332:   Called die

!!! emake failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if
relevant.
!!! A complete build log is located at '/var/tmp/portage/app-doc/xorg-
docs-1.4-r1/temp/build.log'.


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[gentoo-user] update-grub? I have no such thing.

2007-10-13 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I see that building a kernel ends with checking for update-grub, which I
don't have.  Should I?  Where does it come from?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging java with gcj

2007-10-14 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On 10/14/07, Randy Barlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Florian Philipp wrote:
  I've noticed that the gcj use flag is not enabled by default and
  therefore all java code is compiled to byte code instead of native
  binaries, am I correct?

 gcj can compile java code directly to machine code, and I'm pretty sure
 that the Sun compiler just compiles to byte code.  I have no experience
 with gcj though, so I can't answer your second question...

  I wonder how I can change that. Just re-emerge gcc with USE=gcj and
  all packages containing java code? Is it even a good idea?


Probably not, but you could always try it and report back to the list... :o)

Nothing that needs to work with a class loader, like applets do, will work.
I would expect some problems with introspection.  Moreover, last I tried it,
there were buckets of incompatibility with the Java libraries.  Maybe it's
more mature now.

Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


[gentoo-user] kdelibs won't build after change in GCC to 4.1.2 from 3.4.6

2007-10-16 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
/ccache: 2.4-r7
sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.9-r2
sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.61-r1
sys-devel/automake:  1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10
sys-devel/binutils:  2.17-r1
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.16
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.24
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.22-r2
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86
CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-O2 -march=pentium4 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -mfpmath=sse -msse2
-mmmx
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config
/usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config /var/bind
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/fonts/fonts.conf
/etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/web2c
/etc/udev/rules.d
CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=pentium4 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -mfpmath=sse -msse2
-mmmx
DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles
FEATURES=buildpkg distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict
unmerge-orphans userfetch
GENTOO_MIRRORS=ftp://fido.online.kz/gentoo/pub http://gentoo.inf.elte.hu/
ftp://ftp.isu.edu.tw/pub/Linux/Gentoo http://gentoo.scphost.com;
LINGUAS=en fr de es pl
MAKEOPTS=-j4
PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times
--compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats
--timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages
--filter=H_**/files/digest-*
PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp
PORTDIR=/usr/portage
PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage
SYNC=rsync://rsync.namerica.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
USE=X Xaw3d a52 aac aalib acl acpi adns aim alsa apache2 apm arts audiofile
bash-completion bcmath berkdb bitmap-fonts bzip2 cairo calendar caps cdr cli
cracklib crypt cscope ctype cups dbm dbus dbx doc dri dvd dvdr eds emacs
emboss encode esd exif fam fastcgi firefox flatfile foomaticdb fortran ftp
gdbm gif gnome gphoto2 gpm gstreamer gtk guile hal iconv icq imap imlib ipv6
isdnlog java joystick jpeg jpeg2k junit kde kdeenablefinal ldap libwww mad
mbox mcal midi mikmod mime mmap mmx motif mp3 mpeg mpi mudflap mysql ncurses
nis nls nptl nptlonly nsplugin odbc offensive ogg openal opengl openmp oscar
oss pam pcre pdf perl pic png posix postgres ppds pppd python qt3 qt4
quicktime readline reflection ruby sdl session snmp sockets spell spl sse
ssl svga sysvipc tcl tcpd tetex threads tiff tk truetype truetype-fonts
type1-fonts unicode usb vorbis win32codecs x86 xml xorg xpm xprint xv yahoo
zlib ALSA_CARDS=ali5451 als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci
emu10k1 emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0
intel8x0m maestro3 trident usb-audio via82xx via82xx-modem ymfpci
ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file
hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi null plug rate
route share shm softvol ELIBC=glibc INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse
joystick KERNEL=linux LCD_DEVICES=bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780
lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text LINGUAS=en fr de es pl USERLAND=GNU
VIDEO_CARDS=vga r128 mach64 radeon fbdev fglrx vesa
Unset:  CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS,
PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS




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[gentoo-user] Emerge firefox 2.0.0.8 and now printing is hosed

2007-10-24 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I've just emerged firefox 2.0.0.8 (I think it was 2.0.0.7 before), and now
attempts to print a web page bring me to a skimpy little dialog with just
two buttons: Cancel and OK.  The OK button leads to an error dialog.  So
printing is now impossible.  Fortunately, I have seamonkey, which is working
just fine.

But I'd like firefox to work too.

++ kevin

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge firefox 2.0.0.8 and now printing is hosed

2007-10-24 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
It's a gentoo ebuild, so I start here.  For all I know, it was something
that happened here.

My OS is cranking along.  It just spent 2 or 3 weeks recompiling itself with
GCC 4.1.2, upgrading from 3.something.
Only Qemu failed to come over.  Then I promptly had to upgrade to a broken
firefox, but that's not a show-stopper for me.

++ kevin

On 10/24/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 10/24/07, Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've just emerged firefox 2.0.0.8 (I think it was 2.0.0.7 before), and
 now
  attempts to print a web page bring me to a skimpy little dialog with
 just
  two buttons: Cancel and OK.  The OK button leads to an error dialog.  So
  printing is now impossible.  Fortunately, I have seamonkey, which is
 working
  just fine.
 
  But I'd like firefox to work too.
 
  ++ kevin
 
  --
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 Might want to bring this up with the firefox people, not the Gentoo
 people.

 But hey!  How's your os workin these days?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge firefox 2.0.0.8 and now printing is hosed

2007-10-25 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
Nah.  It's what I get for posting stupid.  I just needed to restart
firefox.  Everything is now good.

++ kevin

On 10/25/07, Arttu V. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  I'm using mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.8, not -bin, and printing works fine
  here also. Just another data point; sorry I don't know how to help

 I might have missed it, but was revdep-rebuild tried already? :)

 Also, maybe it could be something with gtk+ or some printing component
 (old cups? cups ebuild was just updated) instead of firefox? So, how about
 other apps and their print dialogs? Are they broken too?

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[gentoo-user] Use of gethostname() and getdomainname()

2007-11-30 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I've got my own domain and domain server.  I've just run into a problem
about the appropriate settings for hosts and domains, and it's messing up a
few things in my postfix setup.

The gentoo instructions say to set /etc/conf.d/hostname to the host name
only.  It gets passed to sethostname(2) unchanged by /etc/init.d/hostname.
I did it.
The gentoo instructions say to put a domain name, if needed, into
/etc/conf.d/net.  It seems to get used in network setup.  I did it.

Nothing seems to be set into whatever it is that setdomainname(2) is used
for.
My mailx mailer seems to put localdomain on the sender address when my
crontab entries call it.  Maybe because it sees that getdomainname(2) comes
up empty.

What's the right way to set this up?  Should I just cobble my proper domain
into setdomainname(2)?  Is there a right way?  Is there a better way?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Use of gethostname() and getdomainname()

2007-12-02 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I like keeping it to stuff that makes sense.  I don't put in private network
addresses unless I actually use them,
which would just be the 192.168.x.x addresses provided by my DSL router,
behind which I hide most of my
systems.  But for the present thread, I'm talking about the routable IP
number for this host: treat.kosmanor.com
is seen as 64.166.164.49.

I've got HOSTNAME=treat in /etc/conf.d/hostname, and the FQDN in
/etc/postfix/main.cf.

Meanwhile, I've stumbled on the Linux man page for uname(2).  It explains
some of this as lack of coverage from the standards.  Use man 2 uname and
look in the NOTES section.  It seems this is an area that has not been well
treated, and there's divergence among systems as well as among applications,
let alone between them.  Ugh.


On Dec 2, 2007 7:12 AM, Etaoin Shrdlu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sunday 2 December 2007, Mick wrote:

   Try adding the following line to /etc/hosts:
  
   a.b.c.d  hostname.your.domain  hostname

   of course, replacing a.b.c.d with your correct ip address.
  
   I don't know whether this is related to your problem, but it usually
   solves the domainname: (none) problem.
 
  Is this meant to be the LAN private address, or the Internet address
  of the host?

 It depends. If you just need to solve the agetty banner problem which
 prints welcome to machinename.(none), you can just use 127.0.0.1 or
 eth0's address, and this always has solved all the problems for me until
 now. Otherwise, you have to know what address the application uses to
 identify the box. However, if in doubt, nothing stops you from adding
 several lines that differ only in the ip address:

 127.0.0.1 hostname.your.domain  hostname
 10.0.0.1 hostname.your.domain  hostname
 100.100.100.100 hostname.your.domain  hostname

 etc.

 NOTE: I don't know whether this is the correct way to do things. Many
 times it works, but other, less clumsy, ways probably exist (I simply
 haven't had the need to search them until now).
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[gentoo-user] vmware-server requires a serial number, but is free? how does this work

2007-12-21 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I've emerged and partly configured vmware-server-1.0.4, but it is asking for
a 20-digit serial number to complete the configuration.
I understood this to be a free product, as it says on the VMware site.  But
I didn't notice anything about a serial number.  Do
I just make it up, or did I miss something on vmware.com?

++ kevin

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[gentoo-user] VMWare server + Win 98 = VGA only?

2007-12-21 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I just got vmware server going and installed a Win98SE guest.  The guest
didn't recognize the virtual video card, and all I get is 16 colors.  Is
there a fix?

I know this list is more about gentoo than the details of the apps, but I'm
not aware of an active VMware list.  A pointer to one would shut me up about
this.

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Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare server + Win 98 = VGA only?

2007-12-22 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On 12/22/07, James R. Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Saturday 22 December 2007, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
  I did nothing to install the tools.  I could not find them.  There's an
  ebuild for
  workstation tools, but not for player or server.  I didn't see anything
  helpful
  on the download page, or in the results from a query for tools on the
  VMWare web site.
 
  Nevertheless, I'm sure that since you ask, there's a simple way to find
  them that I just missed.

 I'm not near my VMs at the moment, but if memory serves: from the VMware
 Server menu bar, choose VM --Install VMware Tools while the guest is
 running.


Yep, that did it.  Thanks.

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[gentoo-user] Suddenly emerging unstable packages = why?

2008-01-04 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
Suddenly I noticed I'm on the bleeding edge.  I don't know why.
The latest: emerge -aDvu world is emerging unstable k3b-1.0.4.  At least if
I'm reading the output of eix correctly, it's unstable.
I don't have anything in ACCEPT_KEYWORDS (it's not defined).
In all of /etc/portage there are 4 references to x86, and they're in
package.keywords for particular package releases whose features I needed.

So why am I emerging these things?

++ kevin

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Re: [gentoo-user] Suddenly emerging unstable packages = why?

2008-01-07 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I see that it's now stable, and I'm going to let the emerge go forward.
However, I scrolled back my terminal to when I sent that message, and here's
what eix gave me then (primarily the ~ in front of 1.0.4.  Could this be
an asychrony with the eix database?

treat portage # eix k3b
[I] app-cdr/k3b
 Available versions:  0.12.17 ~1.0 ~1.0.1 ~1.0.1-r1 ~1.0.2 ~1.0.3 ~1.0.4
{alsa arts css debug dvdr dvdread elibc_FreeBSD emovix encode ffmpeg flac
hal kde linguas_af linguas_ar linguas_bg linguas_bn linguas_br linguas_bs
linguas_ca linguas_cs linguas_cy linguas_da linguas_de linguas_el
linguas_en_GB linguas_es linguas_et linguas_eu linguas_fa linguas_fi
linguas_fr linguas_ga linguas_gl linguas_he linguas_hi linguas_hu linguas_is
linguas_it linguas_ja linguas_ka linguas_km linguas_lt linguas_mk linguas_ms
linguas_nb linguas_nds linguas_nl linguas_nn linguas_pa linguas_pl
linguas_pt linguas_pt_BR linguas_ro linguas_ru linguas_rw linguas_se
linguas_sk linguas_sl linguas_sr [EMAIL PROTECTED] linguas_sv linguas_ta
linguas_tr linguas_uk linguas_uz linguas_zh_CN linguas_zh_TW mp3 musepack
musicbrainz sndfile vcd vorbis xinerama}
 Installed versions:  0.12.17(13:10:41 10/22/07)(alsa arts dvdr encode
hal kde linguas_de linguas_es linguas_fr linguas_pl mp3 vorbis -css -debug
-elibc_FreeBSD -ffmpeg -flac -linguas_af -linguas_bg -linguas_bn -linguas_br
-linguas_bs -linguas_ca -linguas_cs -linguas_cy -linguas_da -linguas_el
-linguas_en_GB -linguas_et -linguas_eu -linguas_fi -linguas_ga -linguas_he
-linguas_hi -linguas_hu -linguas_is -linguas_it -linguas_ja -linguas_km
-linguas_lt -linguas_mk -linguas_ms -linguas_nb -linguas_nds -linguas_nl
-linguas_nn -linguas_pa -linguas_pt -linguas_pt_BR -linguas_ro -linguas_ru
-linguas_se -linguas_sl -linguas_sr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -linguas_sv -linguas_ta
-linguas_tr -linguas_uk -linguas_zh_CN -linguas_zh_TW -musepack -musicbrainz
-sndfile -vcd -xinerama)
 Homepage:http://www.k3b.org/
 Description: K3b, KDE CD Writing Software




On 1/5/08, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Saturday 05 January 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
  Suddenly I noticed I'm on the bleeding edge. I don't know why.
  The latest: emerge -aDvu world is emerging unstable k3b-1.0.4. At
  least if I'm reading the output of eix correctly, it's unstable.

 [I] app-cdr/k3b
  Available versions:  0.12.17 (~)1.0 (~)1.0.1 (~)1.0.1-r1 (~)1.0.2
 (~)1.0.3 1.0.4

 It's stable according to my --sync done 10 minutes ago. Perhaps you are
 reading eix output wrongly, post your current output and let's have a
 look

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Re: [gentoo-user] Suddenly emerging unstable packages = why?

2008-01-08 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On 1/7/08, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Monday 07 January 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
  I see that it's now stable, and I'm going to let the emerge go
  forward. However, I scrolled back my terminal to when I sent that
  message, and here's what eix gave me then (primarily the ~ in front
  of 1.0.4.  Could this be an asychrony with the eix database?

 Hmm, sounds reasonable. Perhaps you mistakenly ran emerge --sync instead
 of eix-sync that one time? I've done it myself once or thrice :-)


I would not have thought so because it's all done in cron jobs thrice per
week, giving me reports via email.

However, it is true that emerge sync and eix-update were in two separate
jobs scheduled an hour apart.  It is vaguely conceivable that they got out
of step somehow.  I've unified them, and hope things go better now.

++ kevin



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Re: [gentoo-user] Suddenly emerging unstable packages = why?

2008-01-08 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Jan 8, 2008 7:48 AM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tuesday 08 January 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
  Hmm, sounds reasonable. Perhaps you mistakenly ran emerge --sync
  instead of eix-sync that one time? I've done it myself once or thrice
  :-)
 
  I would not have thought so because it's all done in cron jobs thrice
  per week, giving me reports via email.
 
  However, it is true that emerge sync and eix-update were in two
  separate jobs scheduled an hour apart. It is vaguely conceivable
  that they got out of step somehow. I've unified them, and hope
  things go better now.

 Yeah, that's probably it then. Doing an emerge at randomly selected
 times will cause i in about 60 or so to fall in that hour window :-)

 Any particular reason you run two separate jobs and not just eix-sync
 (which does both in sequence)?

 alan

 --
 Alan McKinnon
 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com


Originally, because the output was hard to read I think.  And I figured that
starting them an hour apart would ensure sequence anyway.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Suddenly emerging unstable packages = why?

2008-01-08 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On 1/8/08, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tuesday 08 January 2008 23:30:51 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
However, it is true that emerge sync and eix-update were in two
separate jobs scheduled an hour apart. It is vaguely conceivable
that they got out of step somehow. I've unified them, and hope
things go better now.
 [...]
   Any particular reason you run two separate jobs and not just eix-sync
   (which does both in sequence)?
 
  Originally, because the output was hard to read I think.  And I figured
  that starting them an hour apart would ensure sequence anyway.

 Surely you ran update-eix and possibly diff-eix rather than eix-sync then?
 Running eix-sync and emerge --sync would mean syncing twice a day (for no
 good reason)...

 --
 Bo Andresen


Indeed.  I run update-eix, but I don't do it every day.   The entire package
runs three times per week, and I use the emails from it to decide whether or
when to emerge world.  I keep pretty current, but don't see the point in
daily updates.

++ kevin



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[gentoo-user] Eeek: Apache2 lost it's CGI ability

2009-02-15 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I've got a low-use CGI script on my web server.  Aside from web
crawlers, I usually see at most a few hits a week from
people who share my hobby.

I just found out it's been down for an unknown period of time because
my Apache no longer does CGI scripting.
I can't even get it to run the simplest possible C program.

In /etc/apache2/httpd.conf, I've added a single line to what I think
is the standard config  --  at the end I added

#KOSMANOR: defer to ./kosmanor/hexDirs.conf
Include /etc/apache2/kosmanor/hexDirs.conf

And the CGI part of hexDirs.conf is just

ScriptAlias /hex-bin /hex/bin
Directory /hex/bin
Options FollowSymLinks
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory

I don't get much help from the logs.  The access log shows that the
request got an error code,
64.166.164.49 - - [15/Feb/2009:15:46:32 -0800] GET /hex-bin/board
HTTP/1.1 500 542

 and all that the error log says is:
[Sun Feb 15 15:46:32 2009] [error] [client 64.166.164.49] Premature
end of script headers: board


Any idea how to debug this, or any intuitions about what I neglected to do?




-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Eeek: Apache2 lost it's CGI ability

2009-02-15 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote:
 Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com writes:

 I don't get much help from the logs.  The access log shows that the
 request got an error code,
 64.166.164.49 - - [15/Feb/2009:15:46:32 -0800] GET /hex-bin/board
 HTTP/1.1 500 542

  and all that the error log says is:
 [Sun Feb 15 15:46:32 2009] [error] [client 64.166.164.49] Premature
 end of script headers: board


 Any idea how to debug this, or any intuitions about what I neglected to do?

 Well a few things come to mind.  Test the script by hand first.
 Check the permissions are 755 or the like.

 Test a very simple cgi that is known to work.

 Here is a simple one... make sure it has chmod 755
 --- 8 snip  --- 8 snip 
 #!/usr/bin/perl
 print Content-type: text/html\n\n;

 print REMOTE_ADDR = $ENV{REMOTE_ADDR}BR \n;

This is wonderful.  Thanks.  Your cgi script worked just fine.  I put
it in the same directory,
called it 'cgi.perl', and made the permissions 755.  It ran just fine.
So I guess apache is fine.

Having something simple that works is a great help in figuring out
what is actually broken.
I've got a meeting to go to, so I'll have to get back to it.

But this much I know:
The permissions on the failing (python) script are the same.  So are
the owner and group.
The python script runs fine from the command-line, even as an other user.

Next thing: I'll make a python version of your program and work up from there.

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Eeek: Apache2 lost it's CGI ability

2009-02-15 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote:
 Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com writes:

 I don't get much help from the logs.  The access log shows that the
 request got an error code,
 64.166.164.49 - - [15/Feb/2009:15:46:32 -0800] GET /hex-bin/board
 HTTP/1.1 500 542

  and all that the error log says is:
 [Sun Feb 15 15:46:32 2009] [error] [client 64.166.164.49] Premature
 end of script headers: board


 Any idea how to debug this, or any intuitions about what I neglected to do?

 Well a few things come to mind.  Test the script by hand first.
 Check the permissions are 755 or the like.

 Test a very simple cgi that is known to work.

 Here is a simple one... make sure it has chmod 755
 --- 8 snip  --- 8 snip 
 #!/usr/bin/perl
 print Content-type: text/html\n\n;

 print REMOTE_ADDR = $ENV{REMOTE_ADDR}BR \n;

 This is wonderful.  Thanks.  Your cgi script worked just fine.  I put
 it in the same directory,
 called it 'cgi.perl', and made the permissions 755.  It ran just fine.
 So I guess apache is fine.

 Having something simple that works is a great help in figuring out
 what is actually broken.
 I've got a meeting to go to, so I'll have to get back to it.

 But this much I know:
 The permissions on the failing (python) script are the same.  So are
 the owner and group.
 The python script runs fine from the command-line, even as an other user.

 Next thing: I'll make a python version of your program and work up from there.

 --
 Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Update: still broken, but the broken piece seems to be my use of the
gettext package,
not apache.  My translated message strings are still there, but
something is erroring
out when run under apache that works okay when run from the command line.

I'll sleep on it.


-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD



Re: [gentoo-user] Eeek: Apache2 lost it's CGI ability

2009-02-17 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Naga nagat...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Monday 16 February 2009 00:59:41 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
 I've got a low-use CGI script on my web server.  Aside from web
 crawlers, I usually see at most a few hits a week from
 people who share my hobby.

 I just found out it's been down for an unknown period of time because
 my Apache no longer does CGI scripting.
 I can't even get it to run the simplest possible C program.

 Not sure if this is related to your problem but I had a similar issue that was
 caused by having threads as a USE flag for Apache. This has the effect that
 the mod_cgi.so module isn't built, but the mod_cgid.so one is.

 /Regards
 Naga



Problem solved.  It wasn't i18n, and it wasn't Python.

Apparently somewhere along the line, apache started to provide a
command-line argument to CGI programs.  At least my Python script was
getting an empty string in argv[1].  The script is picky about that,
but had old code to handle it that worked only for the command-line.
It did not expect to have any arguments at all when running as CGI.

After fixing up error handling, and training it to ignore empty string
parameters, the script runs just fine.  Check it out at
http://hex.kosmanor.com/hex-bin/board if you like the game of Hex.
It's a hobby thing.

++ kevin


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[gentoo-user] Learning to use libtool

2009-03-01 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I'm trying to learn about libtool for the New Riders book GNU
Attoconf, Automake and libtool, and I'm stymied early on.  It wants
me to run a ltconfig program that does not seem to exist.  It said
to find a few things in /usr/local/share/libtool, and I found all but
one of them in /usr/share/libtool, but no ltconfig.

I'm in a similar fix on Ubunu, the only other Linux I have at home.

Can anyone enlighten me?

++ kevin
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Re: [gentoo-user] Learning to use libtool

2009-03-01 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Mike Kazantsev
mike_kazant...@fraggod.net wrote:
 On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:19:19 -0800
 Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm trying to learn about libtool for the New Riders book GNU
 Attoconf, Automake and libtool, and I'm stymied early on.  It wants
 me to run a ltconfig program that does not seem to exist.  It said
 to find a few things in /usr/local/share/libtool, and I found all but
 one of them in /usr/share/libtool, but no ltconfig.

 Prehaps it's just a typo and the program in question is ldconfig?


 I'm in a similar fix on Ubunu, the only other Linux I have at home.

 Illustrates the fact that typos can be anywhere ;)

It appears the book is just out of date.  I need newer references.
It's definitely not ldconfig that's wanted, but a program that
configures a local copy of libtool itself.  Maybe it's now obsolete.
So I'm looking for a new reference.  All I've found so far is some
acrobat slides -- lots of them, but they have all the problems
inherent in slide presentations without a presenter.

++ kevin


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Re: [gentoo-user] Learning to use libtool

2009-03-06 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 4:32 AM, Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org wrote:

 It appears the book is just out of date.  I need newer references.
 It's definitely not ldconfig that's wanted, but a program that
 configures a local copy of libtool itself.  Maybe it's now obsolete.
 So I'm looking for a new reference.  All I've found so far is some
 acrobat slides -- lots of them, but they have all the problems
 inherent in slide presentations without a presenter.

 Not to sound like a dick, but did you even bother to look at the libtool
 home page[1]?  There's a crapload of information there, including to the
 answer to the mystery behind the missing ltconfig.

 [1] http://www.gnu.org/software/libtool/

Thanks.  This is helpful no matter what it sounds like.





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[gentoo-user] Browsers not seeing symbol font

2009-03-25 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I have discovered that the symbol font does not render reliably in
browsers.  Only one of my audience (of about a dozen people) could see
the font properly, in a variety of browsers.  The one who could is
using Firefox, and I have not been able to determine what makes this
one special -- I do not have access to that machine to check out
configurations.

I have a very simple HTML example at
http://www.kosmanor.com/~kevin/symbol.html.  By rights it should show
The quick brown fox transliterated into greek letters.  On most
browsers set up for English, it seems to come out in latin letters,
but there are no latin letter in that font, although these same
browsers honor requests for a variety of other fonts.  This is true
even on some machines that definitely have the symbol font, and it's
usable in word processing documents.

Of course, that sample page is ancient HTML, but the problem first
surfaced in HTML email being received on a much more sophisticated
page by Yahoo Mail.

There's a lot I don't know about character encodings, i18n and the
rest, but this still seems discrimination against the symbol font.
Any clues out there?

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