Re: [Gimp-developer] File Creation Permission Problem ONLY for TIF files: Creating as 644 (rw-r--r--) when should be 664 (rw-rw-r--)
Sorry to bump this, but after 8 days on this list and on gimp-user, there has been absolutely no comment. Can anybody confirm or deny that this is also happening on their linux systems? Or is it _just_ me? Should I file a bug report on this? I don't want to clutter up bugzilla if I am missing something silly. Thanks. Jay On 04/02/2009 11:58 AM, Jay Smith wrote: [I hope it is appropriate to post this here. I posted on gimp-user and got no feedback on this. I did not want to post as a bug on bugzilla yet in case I am missing something simple.] Using Gimp 2.6.6 on Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy) Linux. TIFF ONLY This problem seems *only* to be happening when creating/saving TIFF (.tif) files. If the filetype is something else, then the problem is not happening. On two different workstations, being run by two different login users, creating files in various different directories, Gimp is creating the files with permissions that are incorrectly too restrictive: Gimp is making as 644: -rw-r--r-- 1 jay jsa 1919194 2009-03-31 12:10 tmp.tif When it should be making as 664: -rw-rw-r-- 1 jay jsa 1919194 2009-03-31 12:10 tmp.tif ONLY Gimp is doing this. Creating files in the exact same manner and saving them to test.png or test.jpg results in _correct_ permissions. It only is a problem with .tif files (so far in my testing). a) The directories that the files are being created in have perms of 6775: drwsrwsr-x 3 jay jsa 4096 2007-05-28 15:57 testdir Files created in a directory with those perms are _supposed_ to be created as 664 which is rw-rw-r--. b) When any other program, such as vi or touch, makes a file in the very same directory, it is making the perms correctly. c) I have double checked the user's umask which is correctly 0002 which would result in file creation as 664. d) We have never had this problem with any other program (when the directory perms are correct, which they are in this case). e) An associate on a completely different, but virtually identically configured Ubuntu linux system (all same versions). has been able to replicate the exact same problem. ??? 1) Is this a (known?) bug? 2) Is this configurable somewhere in Gimp? I can't find it if it is. 3) Is this configurable somehow in the .gimp* rc files and/or from the command line? Jay ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] File Creation Permission Problem ONLY for TIF files: Creating as 644 (rw-r--r--) when should be 664 (rw-rw-r--)
Jay Smith wrote: Sorry to bump this, but after 8 days on this list and on gimp-user, there has been absolutely no comment. Hi! Don't top-post please. This happens to me as well and from looking at the code it also happens for gbr, gih, pat, pnm and raw which opens a file for writing like this: fd = g_open (filename, O_CREAT | O_TRUNC | O_WRONLY | _O_BINARY, 0644); E.g png instead uses fp = g_fopen (filename, wb); This inconsistency doesn't make any sense, feel free to open a bug report. The latter is identical to the former apart from the permissions, so we probably want to use the latter for all plug-ins. - Martin ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] File Creation Permission Problem ONLY for TIF files: Creating as 644 (rw-r--r--) when should be 664 (rw-rw-r--)
Martin, Sorry, if I was not clear. You said Don't top-post please. My question Please advise me what I am to do in such situations? What is the correct method? I wish to follow the rules. was asking what am I supposed to do if I am not supposed to bump (is that the same as top-post?) but there has been no reply or interest in the subject, yet the subject (as you thankfully proved) is worthy of attention? Sorry for being unfamiliar with the rule on this. I have posted the bug. Thanks for taking the time to confirm that there was an actual problem. Jay On 04/10/2009 12:22 PM, Martin Nordholts wrote: The correct method for what? Filing bug reports? Take a look at http://www.gimp.org/bugs/ And I would prefer to keep the discussion on-list - Martin Jay Smith wrote: Thank you for your reply and information. Again, I apologize for bumping the topic. Please advise me what I am to do in such situations? What is the correct method? I wish to follow the rules. Jay On 04/10/2009 11:36 AM, Martin Nordholts wrote: Jay Smith wrote: Sorry to bump this, but after 8 days on this list and on gimp-user, there has been absolutely no comment. Hi! Don't top-post please. This happens to me as well and from looking at the code it also happens for gbr, gih, pat, pnm and raw which opens a file for writing like this: fd = g_open (filename, O_CREAT | O_TRUNC | O_WRONLY | _O_BINARY, 0644); E.g png instead uses fp = g_fopen (filename, wb); This inconsistency doesn't make any sense, feel free to open a bug report. The latter is identical to the former apart from the permissions, so we probably want to use the latter for all plug-ins. - Martin ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] File Creation Permission Problem ONLY for TIF files: Creating as 644 (rw-r--r--) when should be 664 (rw-rw-r--)
Jay Smith wrote: Martin, Sorry, if I was not clear. You said Don't top-post please. Wikipedia had a nice explanation of top-posting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Top-posting Top posting is confusing especially on mailing lists where there often are complex threaded discussions with multiple participants - Martin ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
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Re: [Gimp-developer] PLEASE REMOVE ME
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Re: [Gimp-developer] PLEASE REMOVE ME
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Re: [Gimp-developer] New User's opinion
2009/4/9 Mirai Warren the.future.comes...@gmail.com: The notion that a program can improve artistic skills is heavily and typically misleading. An artist can put together excellent works with any tool he chooses to use. For instance, Microsoft Paint is responsible for some of the best creations at pixeljoint.com. Exploring any new means of creation, digital or physical, can obviously improve technical skills relating to arts. Artistic skills in general are harder to comment on, but from my experience exploration is always beneficial. Back on topic, I had always heard how bad GIMP's interface is, despite the fact that I was using it perfectly fine. Although GIMP's UI is far from perfect, I think at a certain point that opinion has become something many people trust in without even trying the software for themselves, and what they've heard about it makes it easy to mistake its differences with other tools for poor quality. Henk ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Apply transforms on double click
Hi, I would like to raise an enhancement for gimp. *Apply transforms on double click* The current situation is, after a picture transformation, i.e. change the parameters by hand in the pop-up dialog box, or using mouse pointer to make the transformation on the picture itself, the user can either press ENTER button or click on the respective button on the pop-up dialog box to apply it. It is good if the user can DOUBLE-CLICK on the picture after the transformation has done. This gives the user easiness when the user do the transformation by the mouse pointer. Otherwise he/she has to use hand on keyboard or move the mouse pointer to somewhere else to apply the transformation. Since I was applied for the GSoC this time, I would like to make a patch for this to familiarize myself with GIMP if it is recommended by the community. Thanking you. ** Chandana Bandara IRC: boneyCB ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Apply transforms on double click
Chandana Bandara wrote: Hi, I would like to raise an enhancement for gimp. _Apply transforms on double click_ Hi Just so you know, the transformation tools are eventually going to be merged and work differently (the popups will be removed) - Martin ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] New User's opinion
This seems to run as a general response to software that challenges another with a major market share/user base, and particularly free software like blender and the gimp. I myself was sceptical of both of those projects earlier on due to prior experience with Maya and Photoshop. Many who use these professionally or regularly (I did not) are much more apt to complain to others; for example, a teacher to his students, a friend to friends. On 4/10/09, Henk Boom lunarcri...@gmail.com wrote: Back on topic, I had always heard how bad GIMP's interface is, despite the fact that I was using it perfectly fine. Although GIMP's UI is far from perfect, I think at a certain point that opinion has become something many people trust in without even trying the software for themselves, and what they've heard about it makes it easy to mistake its differences with other tools for poor quality. Henk ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Apply transforms on double click
Hi, Thank you for the information. It is nice to hear that those tools are going to be merged and hence will be improved. It will be easier for the user to select one tool and make transformations there. I have seen that in some softwares. Is that merging those tools related to the the GSoC project Implement perspective transformations in GEGL? Chandana Bandara On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 4:26 AM, Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com wrote: Chandana Bandara wrote: Hi, I would like to raise an enhancement for gimp. _Apply transforms on double click_ Hi Just so you know, the transformation tools are eventually going to be merged and work differently (the popups will be removed) - Martin ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Heart = gnome-love; X = ????
Looking at bugzilla.gnome.org for GIMP bugs, I noticed that some of the GIMP bugs are marked with hearts, some with yellow X symbols, and one with both. While browsing the bugbase, I discovered that the heart symbol was associated with GNOME-love keyword, that is, a project suitable for newbies. However, I can't seem to find what the yellow X means, even after looking at bugs that have it. There's no alt attribute to enlighten me, either. My initial thought was it meant we're never going to do this but after discovering GNOME-love, I thought it might mean GNOME-hate, that is a project that would make newbies run screaming from the thought of contributing to open source software. But then why would it be on a GNOME-love bug? Can anyone enlighten me, please? Charles Belov ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Heart = gnome-love; X = ????
Charles Belov wrote: Looking at bugzilla.gnome.org for GIMP bugs, I noticed that some of the GIMP bugs are marked with hearts, some with yellow X symbols, and one with both. Can anyone enlighten me, please? The X is an icon of two patches crossed together and marks that there are patches attached to the bug report. - Martin ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Apply transforms on double click
Chandana Bandara wrote: Is that merging those tools related to the the GSoC project Implement perspective transformations in GEGL? Not really, they are mostly separate issues - Martin ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
