[Gimp-developer] Suggestion: Active bug list
Hi all. Branko's talk of a bug week got me thinking recently, and I just noticed that one of the few mails which got left in my gimp-developer mailbox (usually RFCs followups, but not in this case) was a mail that Sven sent to the list in June with a list of active 1.2 bugs (the thread was 1.2 Bug Hunting). There were about 10 of the highest-priority bugs, with a 1-line description and a link to bugzilla. Personally it got me lookign at bugzilla (a habit that has since lapsed), and looking at the thread it seemed to lead to the resolution of a fair few bugs. Do people think that doing this on a regular (say monthly) basis would be a good idea? And if so, who would do it? (note that I'm not volunteering - it's just something I was thinking about :) I could be persuaded to, perhaps - or maybe some of the people who've done a bit more with bugzilla might consider it? Just an idea - I don't know if people think it would be a good idea... -- David Neary, E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palamon Technologies Ltd. Phone +353-1-634-5059 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Suggestion: Active bug list
Hi all. Branko's talk of a bug week got me thinking recently, and I just noticed that one of the few mails which got left in my gimp-developer mailbox (usually RFCs followups, but not in this case) was a mail that Sven sent to the list in June with a list of active 1.2 bugs (the thread was 1.2 Bug Hunting). There were about 10 of the highest-priority bugs, with a 1-line description and a link to bugzilla. Personally it got me lookign at bugzilla (a habit that has since lapsed), and looking at the thread it seemed to lead to the resolution of a fair few bugs. Do people think that doing this on a regular (say monthly) basis would be a good idea? And if so, who would do it? (note that I'm not volunteering - it's just something I was thinking about :) I could be persuaded to, perhaps - or maybe some of the people who've done a bit more with bugzilla might consider it? Just an idea - I don't know if people think it would be a good idea... Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary, E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palamon Technologies Ltd. Phone +353-1-634-5059 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Suggestion: Active bug list
Hi, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Branko's talk of a bug week got me thinking recently, and I just noticed that one of the few mails which got left in my gimp-developer mailbox (usually RFCs followups, but not in this case) was a mail that Sven sent to the list in June with a list of active 1.2 bugs (the thread was 1.2 Bug Hunting). There were about 10 of the highest-priority bugs, with a 1-line description and a link to bugzilla. Personally it got me lookign at bugzilla (a habit that has since lapsed), and looking at the thread it seemed to lead to the resolution of a fair few bugs. Do people think that doing this on a regular (say monthly) basis would be a good idea? And if so, who would do it? (note that I'm not volunteering - it's just something I was thinking about :) I could be persuaded to, perhaps - or maybe some of the people who've done a bit more with bugzilla might consider it? yeah, sure go ahead. Creating reasonable bugzilla queries and posting the result would definitely not hurt. It might help to get more people working with Bugzilla. Bugzilla is a great tool but using it for a large project like The GIMP requires a reasonable amount of maintainance work. Let alone the fact that someone needs to fix the bugs... Salut, Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Suggestion: Active bug list
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Sven Neumann wrote: Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Personally it got me lookign at bugzilla (a habit that has since lapsed), and looking at the thread it seemed to lead to the resolution of a fair few bugs. Do people think that doing this on a regular (say monthly) basis would be a good idea? And if so, who would do it? (note that I'm not volunteering - it's just something I was thinking about :) I could be persuaded to, perhaps - or maybe some of the people who've done a bit more with bugzilla might consider it? yeah, sure go ahead. Creating reasonable bugzilla queries and posting the result would definitely not hurt. It might help to get more people working with Bugzilla. Bugzilla is a great tool but using it for a large project like The GIMP requires a reasonable amount of maintainance work. Two weeks ago, I added a list of useful Bugzilla queries at the bottom of the download page for the developers' version of the Gimp: http://www.gimp.org/devel_ver.html The links allow you to see the list of open bugs or wish lists, for all versions or only for the stable or unstable versions. The bug reports in which the version number is unspecified are assumed to be related to one of the stable versions. Once you have the result of the query, you can easily sort it by clicking on the column headers in the results page (personally, the first thing I did with Bugzilla was to click the Change Columns link, add the Changed Date and Reporter columns, and then sort by date). When I have some spare time, I will also try to add more specific queries (Windows only, all OSs but Windows, Linux only, ...). For the curious who have an account on wilber, these links are generated semi-automatically from a set of definitions that can be found in the file /gimp00/web-gimp/defines/links_bugs.def. Let alone the fact that someone needs to fix the bugs... Very true. You are doing a great job. ;-) -Raphael ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Fwd: [Gimp-developer] Suggestion: Active bug list]
Hi all, Apologies - I accidentally took this off-list for a couple of mails. Returning to the list now. Cheers, Dave. Dave Neary wrote: Raphael Quinet wrote: Well, the easiest way to do that is to use one of the existing queries for open bugs and click on the Sev or Pri column headings in order to sort them by severity or priority. Then you can look at the first ones in each list and select those that appear to be the most important. There is no way to do this fully automatically because the priorities and severities are not always assigned in a consistent way (depends on who looks at the bugs and what they have in mind at that time). Hmmm... the idea I was trying to get at before was that it would be useful to send a top 10 to the list, since (as you no doubt know) the majority of developers haven't been using zilla (including myself), and probably wouldn't go regularly to one spot to check bugs. But if Mohammed won't go to the mountain... By mailing the 10/15 most critical bugs on a monthly basis to the list, I think people will be more likely to fix them. I know that I was when Sven last posted his trawl through outstanding bugs. It also has the benefit of connecting the very useful bugzilla to the most commonly used mailing list frequently, and getting people following those links. I think that the mail aspect of this is extremely important, and one message saying there are links to queries here (with a URL) isn't enough to get people using zilla in the long term (IMHO). What do you think? Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary, E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palamon Technologies Ltd. Phone +353-1-634-5059 -- David Neary, E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palamon Technologies Ltd. Phone +353-1-634-5059 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Fwd: [Gimp-developer] Suggestion: Active bug list]
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Dave Neary wrote: By mailing the 10/15 most critical bugs on a monthly basis to the list, I think people will be more likely to fix them. I know that I was when Sven last posted his trawl through outstanding bugs. It also has the benefit of connecting the very useful bugzilla to the most commonly used mailing list frequently, and getting people following those links. I think that the mail aspect of this is extremely important, and one message saying there are links to queries here (with a URL) isn't enough to get people using zilla in the long term (IMHO). I see... But unfortunately it would be difficult to mail the top 10 bugs to this list every month. The first problem is technical: I don't have the time to set up such a thing. The second problem is related to the information that would be sent: some bugs have a summary (title) that is not very easy to understand, so sending that to the list would not always be sufficient. By the way, I just updated the page containing the links to some Bugzilla queries and I added three new links that allow you to find the list of open bugs that are not enhancements (so you only get the real bugs). Try it from: http://www.gimp.org/devel_ver.html -Raphael ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Fwd: [Gimp-developer] Suggestion: Active bug list]
Raphael Quinet wrote: I see... But unfortunately it would be difficult to mail the top 10 bugs to this list every month. The first problem is technical: I don't have the time to set up such a thing. The second problem is related to the information that would be sent: some bugs have a summary (title) that is not very easy to understand, so sending that to the list would not always be sufficient. I guess it would only take a few minutes for someone to do it manually - I'll volunteer for a couple of months (starting December) and see how it's being taken after that. If people start saying But those're the same bugs you posted last month! I'll be able to say Well, duh, they need fixing or something a bit more politic. But if it's getting no response at all, a couple of months would be enough of a trial run... By the way, I just updated the page containing the links to some Bugzilla queries and I added three new links that allow you to find the list of open bugs that are not enhancements (so you only get the real bugs). Try it from: http://www.gimp.org/devel_ver.html Cool :) Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary, E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palamon Technologies Ltd. Phone +353-1-634-5059 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
