Re: active gradient suggestion

2000-02-19 Thread Seth Burgess

 Maybe best would be to have a magic entry in the gradient editor
 "FG-BG" and "BG-FG" which would change accordingly, and remove the
 selection from the gradient tool.
 
 jtl

Make that the gradient selector rather than the editor, and I'll agree with you 
completely :)

Seth



Re: gimp_image_get_resolution/gimp_image_get_unit/release timetable

2000-02-19 Thread Sven Neumann

Hi,

 
 Well, thus far we've had very little trouble supporting 1.0.  Even the
 configure script works properly.  1.0 is still the stable release of
 the Gimp.
 

I really don't understand your development cycle. We are approaching the 
1.2 release but you insist on keeping the code that is going to ship with 
1.2 compatible with 1.0. At the same time you start a new unstable branch
heading towards a future you know nothing about yet. Why don't you put some 
effort into making the print plugin that ships with 1.2 a nice and 
featureful one? Adding new printers and other sophisticated stuff is 
probably a bad idea, but overworking the UI and supporting resolution info 
are things that should be addressed right now.


Salut, Sven




Re: pathsP.h

2000-02-19 Thread Garry R. Osgood

Blue Lang wrote:

 did someone take that out of cvs?

Yes. From ChangeLog:

 Wed Feb 16 14:46:14 CET 2000  Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  * app/pathsP.h: removed
  * app/path.h
  * app/pathP.h
  * app/path_transform.h: new header files. Only files that absolutely
  need to access the Path structures internally need to include pathP.h.
  All other functionality is described in the other header files.


 i just did an update from the anon-cvs
 tree (the one hosted by debian,) and cvs axed pathsP.h from the app/ dir.
 now gimp won't build.

 any ideas?

Hm. Did you (1) tidy up through 'make distclean?' (2) Rebuild makefile.in's
through 'autogen.sh your favorite configure preferences' (autogen.sh
rebuilds configure, then runs the new configure for you) (3) make all.

This synchronizes the configure script and makefiles with changes in the tree

 actually, nothing is getting put into the intl/ dir either.. the main
 makefile still looks for stuff in there. i've been just taking intl out of
 my makefile, configuring with --disable-nls and
 --dont-use-the-included-intlgetextthingy and crossing my fingers, but, no
 luck..

Last few days, there have been synchronization problems between
various anoncvs servers - see 'CVS ChangeLog' thread.

 should i blow away my work dir and get a clean cvs dump, or is there a
 muckup in there?

I think 'muck up' qualifies. Personally, I find it reassuring to tarball
the work directory, blow it away, and let CVS build a new one from
scratch, but that seems unnecessary in this case. Good luck.

Be good, be well

Garry Osgood




active gradient suggestion

2000-02-19 Thread Zach Beane - MINT

It's a little confusing to me sometimes to use the gradient tool, thinking
the gradient at the bottom of the toolbar will be used, and finding out that
it's actually using the FG-BG colors (or vice versa). I do know how to
change it, but sometimes I forget which is in effect.

It would be nice if there was a magic option in the gradient selection list
called something like "[FG-BG colors]" that automatically showed a thumbnail
of what the bg/fg colors would look like as a gradient. When it's selected,
it would also display in the bottom of the toolbar, and dynamically update
when the colors change.

That way, no matter what gradient method is selected, the indicator at the
bottom of the toolbar will always show you what colors you'll see when you
make a gradient, independant of whether you're using a pre-set gradient or a
bg-fg color gradient.

This is just a suggestion, and not a demand for immediate action.

Zach
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Re: active gradient suggestion

2000-02-19 Thread Jens Lautenbacher

Zach Beane - MINT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It's a little confusing to me sometimes to use the gradient tool, thinking
 the gradient at the bottom of the toolbar will be used, and finding out that
 it's actually using the FG-BG colors (or vice versa). I do know how to
 change it, but sometimes I forget which is in effect.
 
 It would be nice if there was a magic option in the gradient selection list
 called something like "[FG-BG colors]" that automatically showed a thumbnail
 of what the bg/fg colors would look like as a gradient. When it's selected,
 it would also display in the bottom of the toolbar, and dynamically update
 when the colors change.
 
 That way, no matter what gradient method is selected, the indicator at the
 bottom of the toolbar will always show you what colors you'll see when you
 make a gradient, independant of whether you're using a pre-set gradient or a
 bg-fg color gradient.
 
 This is just a suggestion, and not a demand for immediate action.
 
 Zach

Maybe best would be to have a magic entry in the gradient editor
"FG-BG" and "BG-FG" which would change accordingly, and remove the
selection from the gradient tool.

jtl



Re: active gradient suggestion

2000-02-19 Thread Sven Neumann

 It's a little confusing to me sometimes to use the gradient tool, thinking
 the gradient at the bottom of the toolbar will be used, and finding out that
 it's actually using the FG-BG colors (or vice versa). I do know how to
 change it, but sometimes I forget which is in effect.
 
 It would be nice if there was a magic option in the gradient selection list
 called something like "[FG-BG colors]" that automatically showed a thumbnail
 of what the bg/fg colors would look like as a gradient. When it's selected,
 it would also display in the bottom of the toolbar, and dynamically update
 when the colors change.
 
 That way, no matter what gradient method is selected, the indicator at the
 bottom of the toolbar will always show you what colors you'll see when you
 make a gradient, independant of whether you're using a pre-set gradient or a
 bg-fg color gradient.
 
 This is just a suggestion, and not a demand for immediate action.

Come on guys. This idea is not new and the only reason it's not yet 
implemented is the feature freeze. Read the list we created last August 
at the Chaos Communication Camp...


Salut, Sven




Re: active gradient suggestion

2000-02-19 Thread Zach Beane - MINT

On Sat, Feb 19, 2000 at 10:04:05PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote:
[snip]
 
 Come on guys. This idea is not new and the only reason it's not yet 
 implemented is the feature freeze. Read the list we created last August 
 at the Chaos Communication Camp...

What's the URL? I looked at http://sven.gimp.org/camp/ but didn't find it...

Zach
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Re: gimp_image_get_resolution/gimp_image_get_unit/release timetable

2000-02-19 Thread Michael Natterer

Robert L Krawitz wrote:
 
 I'm experimenting with gimp_image_get_resolution().  It appears (in
 1.1.17, at any rate) that whatever I set the units to I always get a
 resolution back that's expressed in dots per inch.  Is this behavior
 correct?

Absolutely correct.

 If so, did it work this way in 1.0 also?  This is so I can
 investigate its use with the Print plugin.

1.0 has no resolution info at all.

BTW, do you really want to support 1.0? It may be quite hard to make use
of the help system and the libgimp ui stuff (i.e. sizeentries which may
be useful for the print plugin) if you want to keep the print plugin
running with 1.0...
 
bye,
--MItch



Re: gimp_image_get_resolution/gimp_image_get_unit/release timetable

2000-02-19 Thread Robert L Krawitz

   Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 22:43:41 +0100
   From: Michael Natterer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Robert L Krawitz wrote:

I'm experimenting with gimp_image_get_resolution().  It appears (in
1.1.17, at any rate) that whatever I set the units to I always get a
resolution back that's expressed in dots per inch.  Is this behavior
correct?

   Absolutely correct.

Thanks.

If so, did it work this way in 1.0 also?  This is so I can
investigate its use with the Print plugin.

   1.0 has no resolution info at all.

   BTW, do you really want to support 1.0? It may be quite hard to make use
   of the help system and the libgimp ui stuff (i.e. sizeentries which may
   be useful for the print plugin) if you want to keep the print plugin
   running with 1.0...

Well, thus far we've had very little trouble supporting 1.0.  Even the
configure script works properly.  1.0 is still the stable release of
the Gimp.

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Re: mkbrush.scm

2000-02-19 Thread Sven Neumann

Hi,

 While scripts are in the air, should we remove mkbrush.scm before 1.2?
 
 This script takes a bunch of parameters and makes a new brush, almost
 exactly like the "New" or "Edit" features of the brush dialog, but
 it's a Script-Fu. Do we need it for anything? Otherwise we should
 remove it to reduce end-user confusion I think.

The script allows to create rectangular brushes too, which is something 
the brush-generator does not allow (yet).

BTW: Is it only at my installation or are the generated brushes never 
loaded? They obviously get saved... Eeek, another bug!


Salut, Sven





How to load a *.raw file

2000-02-19 Thread Nilay saha

Hi,
  I want to load a image using gimp. this image  size is 2048 times
1420 pixels. The value of each pixel is a 8 bit number.
   Is it possible to load thsi image using a script. I am very new to
Gimp.
If possibel please give some suggestion.
   Bye,
 Nilay.



Re: How to load a *.raw file

2000-02-19 Thread Marc Lehmann

On Sat, Feb 19, 2000 at 04:06:19PM -0800, Nilay saha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is it possible to load thsi image using a script.

Yes. It is non-trivial. If you have ImageMagick installed, however, you can
eaasily convert that image using a call like:

convert -size 2000x1500 gray:inputfile.raw outputfile.pgm

and then load outputfile.pgm

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Re: How to load a *.raw file

2000-02-19 Thread Kevin Turner

On Sat, Feb 19, 2000 at 04:06:19PM -0800, Nilay saha wrote:
   I want to load a image using gimp. this image  size is 2048 times
 1420 pixels. The value of each pixel is a 8 bit number.
Is it possible to load thsi image using a script.

There is a RAW plug-in avaialable which does this thing, you can find it
at the registry.

http://registry.gimp.org/detailview.phtml?plugin=RAW

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Re: gimp_image_get_resolution/gimp_image_get_unit/release timetable

2000-02-19 Thread Robert L Krawitz

   From: Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 03:18:53 +0100

   Don't underestimate the importance of the resolution info for the print
   plugin. The following task may not be very professional, but it is 
   certainly something the average gimp user does frequently:

   Scan in an image, retouch it, collage it, whatever, then print it.

   When doing this with gimp-1.1.x all parts of the data stream support the
   resolution information. The scanner plug-in uses it, the application gives
   you the necessary infos in realsize units, you may even save and load your 
   image in between in a variety of formats. But when you choose to print the
   image, that information carried along all the way is useless, since it is
   simply ignored. We have added the image resolution in 1.1 only to make Gimp
   better suited for printed graphics. CYMK support is still missing, but I
   thought we'd at least manage to integrate the resolution info completely.

Pending a general way to scale images separately on X and Y axes, what
would be your (collective) suggestions about how to handle an image
with different X and Y resolutions?

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Re: Small .....

2000-02-19 Thread Sven Neumann

Hi,

 * How to change RGBA image to an RGB image ?, because it's not
 intuitive enough. New option in "Remove Alpha" menu would be 
 more helpful than explaining this and that.

Removing Alha from a multilayered image is not possible since
gimp insists on having alpha on each layer but the background.
So, Flatten is actually the correct term here, IMHO.

 * in toolbox sometimes windows get really odd
 (color, palette, brushes, gradient), they look
 a bit scrambled and they are out of control. 

This more or less works now...

 * Still no transparent text (it can't be that hard)
 Although it's tricky to get transparent text, but it is possible
 and one must invent it

?? Sorry, I don't you here.

 * Lack of image info (in particular on:
 Amount of colours used in an image (GIF stuff)

Fixed that a while ago.

 Histogram for indexed mode image [you get weird message when trying to
 get histogram for indexed mode image])

Hmm, what's weird about: "Histogram does not work on indexed drawables"?
We might want to additionally set the menu sensitivity dependant on the 
image mode.





Re: [gimp-devel] Re: Some UI inconsistencies and a patch....

2000-02-19 Thread Tuomas Kuosmanen

On Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 10:55:04PM +0100, Jarda Benkovsky wrote:
 Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote:
  The icons are imho very good, try making better ones and you understand
  why. Of course they arent PuRdy CuTe, but that is not the point. Most
  graphics tools dont have too colorful icons, excluding Painter(tm) of
  course.. :)
 
 IMHO the problem is that the new ones (from dodge/burn on) are somewhat
 inconsistent
 in drawing style - I would personally like them to have more gray, so
 they are
 visible with dark button background too. For example, lasso or text have
 nice
 gray shadow, so they are clearly recognizable, but dodge/burn and smudge
 are
 black only.

You are right :)

They could use some shading. But other than that, I think they serve their
purpose pretty well.

Tuomas

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Gimp-Icons not correctly highlighted on mouseover?

2000-02-19 Thread Simon Budig

Tuomas Kuosmanen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 10:55:04PM +0100, Jarda Benkovsky wrote:
  IMHO the problem is that the new ones (from dodge/burn on) are
  somewhat inconsistent in drawing style - I would personally like
  them to have more gray, so they are visible with dark button
  background too. For example, lasso or text have nice gray shadow, so
  they are clearly recognizable, but dodge/burn and smudge are black
  only.
 
 They could use some shading. But other than that, I think they serve their
 purpose pretty well.

BTW: Has something changed in the handling of the icons/toolbox buttons?
If I move the mouse over a button (current CVS) just a rectangular frame
around the image gets highlighted. Did the transparency of the imaged
disappear?

Bye,
Simon
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Re: Gimp-Icons not correctly highlighted on mouseover?

2000-02-19 Thread Sven Neumann

 BTW: Has something changed in the handling of the icons/toolbox buttons?
 If I move the mouse over a button (current CVS) just a rectangular frame
 around the image gets highlighted. Did the transparency of the imaged
 disappear?

Eeek, my fault. I somehow forgot about the importance of the mask. Please
forgive me ;-) I have just added it back in CVS...


Salut, Sven