[Gimp-user] Blur plug-in
Hi, I'd like to get some feedback on the following plan for the Blur plug-in (details are in http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142318): The plan is to remove the randomize and repeat functionality. That would allow us to also remove the (quite confusing) dialog. Filters-Blur-Blur would then be a simple blur with a 3x3 convolution kernel. It would be fast and easy to use but of course we it would be less powerful. So the question is, is anyone actually using this functionality? Are there scripts out there that rely on plug-in-blur-randomize to be available? Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Blur plug-in
Hi, Sven Neumann wrote: I'd like to get some feedback on the following plan for the Blur plug-in (details are in http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142318): The plan is to remove the randomize and repeat functionality. That would allow us to also remove the (quite confusing) dialog. Sounds OK to me. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Blur plug-in
Why not to simply add new plugin with 3x3 convolution and call it Blur? And leave old one with new name Random blur. Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, I'd like to get some feedback on the following plan for the Blur plug-in (details are in http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142318): The plan is to remove the randomize and repeat functionality. That would allow us to also remove the (quite confusing) dialog. Filters-Blur-Blur would then be a simple blur with a 3x3 convolution kernel. It would be fast and easy to use but of course we it would be less powerful. So the question is, is anyone actually using this functionality? Are there scripts out there that rely on plug-in-blur-randomize to be available? -- With respect Alexander Rabtchevich ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] GIMP Conference stand?
Hi all, Do people think that it is worthwhile for the GIMP to have a stand at GUADEC? It would perhaps be a way to sell some t-shirts, have a couple of computers with people doing demos, and have an easy popint-of-contact for people when they were on their down-time. The problem is that it would need to have some work done for it - posters and banners, for example, and I will not be able to do that. Are there people who thionk this is a very good idea, who are prepared to put some time into preparing the stand and putting it up when we get to Norway? Please reply on the list, we can decide before the end of the week whether to do this depending on the response we get. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Blur plug-in
Hi, Alexander Rabtchevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why not to simply add new plugin with 3x3 convolution and call it Blur? And leave old one with new name Random blur. Because we are trying to simplify our menus. Suggesting to add yet another entry to the Blur menu is counter-productive. I've been asking for a use case; do you have one? We can always put the Randomized Blur plug-in to the registry and if someone really needs it, she can install it from there. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] volunteer needed for preferences dialog
What do you need done? Hi, I am forwarding this mail to gimp-user because there hasn't been any response on the gimp-developer mailing-list. Perhaps I can reach a potential contributor here or at least get some user feedback... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] volunteer needed for preferences dialog
Hi, Eric Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do you need done? Huh? The forwarded mail outlines it in all details. Which part did you not understand? Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Blur plug-in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-06-07 at 1149.52 +0200): The plan is to remove the randomize and repeat functionality. That would allow us to also remove the (quite confusing) dialog. Filters-Blur-Blur would then be a simple blur with a 3x3 convolution kernel. It would be fast and easy to use but of course we it would be less powerful. So the question is, is anyone actually using this functionality? Are there scripts out there that rely on plug-in-blur-randomize to be available? Why not just ditch it completly then? If it just a 3x3 convolution that you have to manually repeat, and there are already other filters and scripts that do the same. The point of repeat is not having to rerun manually to get a bigger radius blur. Someone was doing a version that used another channel to control the repeats, which is a nice improvement. If that is accepted as improvement it should stay, otherwise I see no reason to keep it along the generic matrix one and its presets. GSR ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Blur plug-in
Hi, GSR - FR [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The plan is to remove the randomize and repeat functionality. That would allow us to also remove the (quite confusing) dialog. Filters-Blur-Blur would then be a simple blur with a 3x3 convolution kernel. It would be fast and easy to use but of course we it would be less powerful. So the question is, is anyone actually using this functionality? Are there scripts out there that rely on plug-in-blur-randomize to be available? Why not just ditch it completly then? If it just a 3x3 convolution that you have to manually repeat, and there are already other filters and scripts that do the same. The point of repeat is not having to rerun manually to get a bigger radius blur. Someone was doing a version that used another channel to control the repeats, which is a nice improvement. If that is accepted as improvement it should stay, otherwise I see no reason to keep it along the generic matrix one and its presets. Sorry, but what other scripts or plug-ins are you referring to? IMO it would be a good thing to have a simple and fast plug-in that does the job w/o a dialog and I fail to see what other plug-in would provide this functionality. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: Blur plug-in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-06-07 at 1649.35 +0200): Sorry, but what other scripts or plug-ins are you referring to? IMO it would be a good thing to have a simple and fast plug-in that does the job w/o a dialog and I fail to see what other plug-in would provide this functionality. Convolution matrix, and there are scripts floating around that give matrix presets. GSR ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Re: Re: Blur plug-in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-06-07 at 1759.17 +0200): calling the convolution matrix plug in and scripts to preset it a simple replacement ? Well, what would you call a script that just puts a menu entry and calls convolution matrix with a fixed matrix? Please rephrase that to a powerful replacement that can be used by the more then average(new) gimp user. Would this mean having a script-fu menu entry fill convolution matrix for : blur/sharpen/edge detect etc. Those already exists. The ones I got have some extra controls, but nothing disallows making no dialog versions. 2. when using the randomize option the preview makes no real sense since by nature you'll never get twice the same result. Depends how the code is done, using pseudo random and taking into account 2d coord it should provide repeatable results. 4. If a bigger blur is needed use the gausian blur instead of repeating. They are different things, though, box vs guassian. GSR ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] volunteer needed for preferences dialog
Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Eric Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do you need done? Huh? The forwarded mail outlines it in all details. Which part did you not understand? Um, no it doesn't. I just has a short blurb about little response on the dev mailing list and needing help with the Preferences dialog. -- Andrew Gaffney Network Administrator Skyline Aeronautics, LLC. 636-357-1548 ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] volunteer needed for preferencesdialog
Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Eric Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do you need done? Huh? The forwarded mail outlines it in all details. Which part did you not understand? Um, no it doesn't. I just has a short blurb about little response on the dev mailing list and needing help with the Preferences dialog. My bad. I didn't noticed the forwarded e-mail. I've been so busy at work lately that I now skip every 3rd word in e-mails, so that must've been where I missed it. I'm not sure if I'd be much help. I'm probably too beginner for gtk2/C on the Gimp. Eric -- Andrew Gaffney Network Administrator Skyline Aeronautics, LLC. 636-357-1548 ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Re: Re: Blur plug-in
Hi, GSR - FR [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-06-07 at 1759.17 +0200): calling the convolution matrix plug in and scripts to preset it a simple replacement ? Well, what would you call a script that just puts a menu entry and calls convolution matrix with a fixed matrix? I'd call it a waste of resources. Actually such a simple task as applying a convolution kernel should probably be done completely in the core. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] list for script-fu-s
Hi! Is there a separate list for gimp scripting, or should I ask script-fu related questions here? thx Gergo -- +-[ Kontra, Gergely[EMAIL PROTECTED] PhD student Room IB113 ]-+ | http://www.mcl.hu/~kgergelyOlyan langesz vagyok, hogy | | Mobil:(+36 20) 356 9656 ICQ: 175564914 poroltoval kellene jarnom | +-- Magyar php mirror es magyar php dokumentacio: http://hu.php.net --+ ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] alternating brighter and normal-color stripes
hi, as i don't know how it is called what i wanna make, i paraphrise it: at gnome.org and other gnome-related sites there is a background image at the very top of the site, having alternating brighter and normal-color stripes. how can i reach this effect? -- klaus triendl ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] list for script-fu-s
On Monday 07 June 2004 15:31, Gergely Kontra wrote: Hi! Is there a separate list for gimp scripting, or should I ask script-fu related questions here? thx Gergo There is a script-fu list in yahoogroups. But it has movement 0 - so you may ask your questions here, no problem. The yahoogroups list is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Although, once when I needed some help, I sent a mail there, and they answered rather quickly. Regards, JS -- ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] list for script-fu-s
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 08:31:48PM +0200, Gergely Kontra wrote: Hi! Is there a separate list for gimp scripting, or should I ask script-fu related questions here? please do not ask to ask. Ask. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] volunteer needed for preferences dialog
Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Andrew Gaffney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do you need done? Huh? The forwarded mail outlines it in all details. Which part did you not understand? Um, no it doesn't. I just has a short blurb about little response on the dev mailing list and needing help with the Preferences dialog. I am afraid you guys need to fix your mail readers. The message I sent is a multipart message containing an attachment of Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline This is the recommended way of forwarding a message. Inside this attachment you will find the detailed proposal for changes to the preferences dialog. Shouldn't Mozilla Mail be able to handle that without a problem? -- Andrew Gaffney Network Administrator Skyline Aeronautics, LLC. 636-357-1548 ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 02:53:44PM -0400, Robert Krueger wrote: Hi, I am having a terrible time getting 2.01 to run in my Suse 9.0 system.I do have 1.2 working ok, but I have read everything I can on this, and spent 3 weeks on and off trying to get it to configure.I feel especially bad because we downloaded the 2.01 Windows version onto my wifes new Dell laptop with the XP system, and it's running peachy, no problems.The main problem centers around pkg-config.Here's the error. pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.2.3 but GLIB ( 2.3.6 ) was found! i had similar problems with debian. i did not type pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' but figured it out some other way (i read spew too much). the way i solved it on debian was to build a cvs version of glib in /usr/local and add it to the path when i built my own deb of gtk2. the developers lied to me or have something else going on when they told me that debian gave them a working version. too much script-fu in their background, i think. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] volunteer needed for preferences dialog
Andrew Gaffney wrote: Sven Neumann wrote: I am afraid you guys need to fix your mail readers. The message I sent is a multipart message containing an attachment of Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline This is the recommended way of forwarding a message. Inside this attachment you will find the detailed proposal for changes to the preferences dialog. Shouldn't Mozilla Mail be able to handle that without a problem? Thunderbird does. HTH, Michael -- The GIMP http://www.gimp.org| IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Sodipodi http://sodipodi.sf.net | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/sodipodi ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running
Carol Spears wrote: On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 02:53:44PM -0400, Robert Krueger wrote: Hi, I am having a terrible time getting 2.01 to run in my Suse 9.0 system.I do have 1.2 working ok, but I have read everything I can on this, and spent 3 weeks on and off trying to get it to configure.I feel especially bad because we downloaded the 2.01 Windows version onto my wifes new Dell laptop with the XP system, and it's running peachy, no problems.The main problem centers around pkg-config.Here's the error. pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.2.3 but GLIB ( 2.3.6 ) was found! i had similar problems with debian. i did not type pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' but figured it out some other way (i read spew too much). the way i solved it on debian was to build a cvs version of glib in /usr/local and add it to the path when i built my own deb of gtk2. the developers lied to me or have something else going on when they told me that debian gave them a working version. too much script-fu in their background, i think. carol I have the feeling that if I just eliminate the files for glib 2.3.6 or the text that pkg-config found, that it would configure without complaint. I don't know how to find and eliminate this text or files, though. Robert ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] alternating brighter and normal-color stripes
Hi, On Mon, 2004-06-07 at 21:06, klaus triendl wrote: at gnome.org and other gnome-related sites there is a background image at the very top of the site, having alternating brighter and normal-color stripes. how can i reach this effect? You could render a white grid (with only horizontal lines in it) on a transparent layer on top of your image - then play with the layer opacity until you're satisfied. There's a plug-in for rendering grids included with the GIMP, but I haven't got access to a GIMP installation right now, so I can not tell you the menu path :/ It's somewhere below Image/Filters/Render/ I think. Regards, Brix -- Henrik Brix Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 03:30:09PM -0400, Robert Krueger wrote: Carol Spears wrote: On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 02:53:44PM -0400, Robert Krueger wrote: pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.2.3 but GLIB ( 2.3.6 ) was found! i had similar problems with debian. i did not type pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' but figured it out some other way (i read spew too much). the way i solved it on debian was to build a cvs version of glib in /usr/local and add it to the path when i built my own deb of gtk2. the developers lied to me or have something else going on when they told me that debian gave them a working version. too much script-fu in their background, i think. I have the feeling that if I just eliminate the files for glib 2.3.6 or the text that pkg-config found, that it would configure without complaint. I don't know how to find and eliminate this text or files, though. well, that is the thing about linux. you are still trying to work with the distribution. distributions break. glib doesn't really do that much. or glib does a lot but very simply. it is the bottom package. it is actually nothing but a gnu wrapper around libc. so the changes there are not really important. unless something really big happened to libc. libc has worked well forever. i used it with the algol wrapper so long ago. take advantage of the linux origins of the software. building your own glib is very easy. it does not even need a lot of disc space. i can make no promises that suse has provided a means to build a gtk2 easily, debian did for me. building my gtk2 deb needed to only see the configuration file that my personal build of glib put there and thankfully the rest just took build time. now my job is to keep them from installing their broken deb again until they fix it. are you absolutely married to suse for a distribution? carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running
Hello, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: take advantage of the linux origins of the software. building your ownglib is very easy. it does not even need a lot of disc space. Easy to build glibc, but much easier to hose your whole system(everything) if glibc isn't built right. Also, expect to need about 1/2 GB of disc space to build. m2c Steve ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running
Robert Krueger wrote: On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 02:53:44PM -0400, Robert Krueger wrote: Hi, I am having a terrible time getting 2.01 to run in my Suse 9.0 system.I do have 1.2 working ok, but I have read everything I can on this, and spent 3 weeks on and off trying to get it to configure.I feel especially bad because we downloaded the 2.01 Windows version onto my wifes new Dell laptop with the XP system, and it's running peachy, no problems.The main problem centers around pkg-config.Here's the error. pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.2.3 but GLIB ( 2.3.6 ) was found! As an additional note, here is the complete message: checking for pkg-config... /usr/local/bin/pkg-config checking for GLIB - version = 2.2.0... *** 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.2.3, but GLIB (2.3.6) *** was found! If pkg-config was correct, then it is best *** to remove the old version of GLib. You may also be able to fix the error *** by modifying your LD_LIBRARY_PATH enviroment variable, or by editing *** /etc/ld.so.conf. Make sure you have run ldconfig if that is *** required on your system. *** If pkg-config was wrong, set the environment variable PKG_CONFIG_PATH *** to point to the correct configuration files no Sure would like some help... Thanks, Robert ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running
Steve M Bibayoff wrote: Hello, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: take advantage of the linux origins of the software. building your ownglib is very easy. it does not even need a lot of disc space. Easy to build glibc, but much easier to hose your whole system(everything) if glibc isn't built right. Also, expect to need about 1/2 GB of disc space to build. glib != glibc HTH, Michael -- The GIMP http://www.gimp.org| IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Sodipodi http://sodipodi.sf.net | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/sodipodi ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running
Hello, Michael Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: glib != glibc slaps palm to forhead. Sorry about adding noise, wasn't following thread to closely. Steve ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running
Michael Schumacher wrote: Carol Spears wrote: On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 03:30:09PM -0400, Robert Krueger wrote: I have the feeling that if I just eliminate the files for glib 2.3.6 or the text that pkg-config found, that it would configure without complaint. I don't know how to find and eliminate this text or files, though. well, that is the thing about linux. you are still trying to work with the distribution. distributions break. Doesn't Suse have a tool used for package management (yast2, iirc)? Maybe removing and/or upgrading glib with this toll can help? HTH, Michael Already did that. That's why I have 2.2.3 on the system. Robert ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running
Michael Schumacher wrote: Carol Spears wrote: On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 03:30:09PM -0400, Robert Krueger wrote: I have the feeling that if I just eliminate the files for glib 2.3.6 or the text that pkg-config found, that it would configure without complaint. I don't know how to find and eliminate this text or files, though. well, that is the thing about linux. you are still trying to work with the distribution. distributions break. Doesn't Suse have a tool used for package management (yast2, iirc)? Maybe removing and/or upgrading glib with this toll can help? HTH, Michael What I need is for someone to work with me to find out how to eliminate all traces of 2.3.6 so pkg-config doesn't see two versions.That's my first best-step in eliminating this problem. Robert ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running
Hello, Forwarring, I haven't used Suse in a very long time, and I rarely use pkg-config, so I may be leading you down a wrong road. Robert Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I need is for someone to work with me to find out how to eliminate all traces of 2.3.6 so pkg-config doesn't see two versions. pkg-config stores looks for info in *.pc files . See if they are any in your gimp*/lib/ or any where on your system. Also, what does: $ echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH give you? Steve ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] alternating brighter and normal-color stripes
Hi, klaus triendl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: as i don't know how it is called what i wanna make, i paraphrise it: at gnome.org and other gnome-related sites there is a background image at the very top of the site, having alternating brighter and normal-color stripes. how can i reach this effect? GIMP 2.0 includes a pattern just for this very purpose. All you need to do is to create an empty layer on top of your image, choose one of the Stripes patterns and drop it on the image (or use the Bucket Fill tool to fill the empty layer with that pattern). Then adjust the layer opacity to your needs. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running
Hi, Robert Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: system.I do have 1.2 working ok, but I have read everything I can on this, and spent 3 weeks on and off trying to get it to configure. Please go to http://gimp.org/unix/ and use the RPMS linked from there. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Terrible time to get 2.01 running
William Skaggs wrote: You should be looking for a file named glib-2.0.pc, and it is probably located in a directory called pkgconfig. In Fedora the default is /usr/lib/pkgconfig but I believe it is different in SuSE. If pkg-config data files are located elsewhere than in the default directory, then the environment variable PKG_CONFIG_PATH gives a list of the possible locations. Hope this helps, -- Bill Steve and Bill, I found the file you noted in /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig.It's the only location on my system that has this particular file, although I do have other *.pc files in another location /opt/gnome/lib/pkgconfig. So, if I understand this correctly, if I eliminate the glib-2.0.pc from /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig, and then do another make install from glib 2.2.3, it should recreate that file again in that directory, correct? Now I'm just guessing, but there must be an alternate file with 2.3.6 version somewhere, else how is it getting that information? BTW, here's the result from /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/glib-2.0.pc: prefix=/usr/local exec_prefix=${prefix} libdir=${exec_prefix}/lib includedir=${prefix}/include glib_genmarshal=glib-genmarshal gobject_query=gobject-query glib_mkenums=glib-mkenums Name: GLib Description: C Utility Library Version: 2.2.3 Libs: -L${libdir} -lglib-2.0 Cflags: -I${includedir}/glib-2.0 -I${libdir}/glib-2.0/include The result of this file leads me to believe there is another source where pkgconfig is getting it's outdated info, i.e, glib 2.3.6. Robert ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running
Steve M Bibayoff wrote: snip Also, what does: $ echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH give you? Steve I apologize for the deletion. Here's what I get: /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig:/opt/gnome/lib/pkgconfig Even though there are multiple locations for the directory /pkgconfig, there is only one glib-2.0.pc file, in fact, there is no other *.pc file that begins with glib. Thanks Robert ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 04:12:36PM -0400, Robert Krueger wrote: Carol Spears wrote: are you absolutely married to suse for a distribution? No offense, Carol, but this thread isn't solving my problem. And I already did build glib from source...several times. I'm not changing distributions because a piece of software doesn't work, you must be kidding... If you have a workable solution to get get Gimp 2.0.1 working on my system, I would be happy to continue this discussion. you could have just said yes, you are married the suse distribution. good luck! carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, Robert Krueger wrote: checking for pkg-config... /usr/local/bin/pkg-config checking for GLIB - version = 2.2.0... *** 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.2.3, but GLIB (2.3.6) *** was found! If pkg-config was correct, then it is best *** to remove the old version of GLib. You may also be able to fix the error *** by modifying your LD_LIBRARY_PATH enviroment variable, or by editing *** /etc/ld.so.conf. Make sure you have run ldconfig if that is *** required on your system. *** If pkg-config was wrong, set the environment variable PKG_CONFIG_PATH *** to point to the correct configuration files It seems to me that pkg-config returns one version and the linker finds another version, in this case pkg-config returns 2.2.3 and the linker finds 2.3.6. I would try to update the list of files the linker uses to find libraries to link by doing ldconfig as root. If that doesn't work then try editing /etc/ld.so.conf, or where ever that file is if you system uses this this and rearrange the paths for the libraries to list the version returned by pkg-config first. If you don't want to all that above, just set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the directory where your 2.2.3 glib is and that should fix this problem. Of course, I've read that this method is not a good thing to do because it does something bad but I don't remember what. Hope that helps Thong ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Terrible time to get 2.01 running
On Monday 07 June 2004 06:58 pm, Robert Krueger wrote: [...] Steve and Bill, I found the file you noted in /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig.It's the only location on my system that has this particular file, although I do have other *.pc files in another location /opt/gnome/lib/pkgconfig. So, if I understand this correctly, if I eliminate the glib-2.0.pc from /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig, and then do another make install from glib 2.2.3, it should recreate that file again in that directory, correct? Now I'm just guessing, but there must be an alternate file with 2.3.6 version somewhere, else how is it getting that information? BTW, here's the result from /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/glib-2.0.pc: [...] The result of this file leads me to believe there is another source where pkgconfig is getting it's outdated info, i.e, glib 2.3.6. Robert ___ Robert, I believe you mentioned that you are using SuSE 9.0 now? I don't remember what versions of glib glib2 came with that now. I know a version 2.x, but don't remember the exact version without looking on my discs. Anyway, SuSE does have update files on their ftp to bring things up to 2.4 for glib2 at least. Since glib pertains to gtk and glib2 to the new gtk+, which I believe Gimp has also been updated to use, I'm pretty sure you won't find a 2.3 version of glib to use. Usually your odd versions are developer versions anyway. Be sure too, that you have all the -devel packages installed for compiling. I don't know how much you have been mucking around with your setup, but it sounds as if you might have gotten things wanky. You could always do a repair from your SuSE discs, to put things back or you could update to 9.1 and get Gimp 2.x in the process. ;o) You can also download the Gnome files from their ftp for 9.0 and probably settle things down too, if you are wanting to compile the newer version. One other thing, I believe in one of the mails, someone mentioned glibc. glibc is one of those things one should not mess with on their setup as it provides the base for all Linux. It is extremely fragile and updating or changing things are a bad idea. That's not to say one can't do it, but due to the nature of it's existence, it's recommended strongly not too! Regards, Patrick -- --- KMail v1.6.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.1 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user