[Gimp-user] Blur plug-in

2004-06-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

I'd like to get some feedback on the following plan for the Blur
plug-in
(details are in http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142318):

The plan is to remove the randomize and repeat functionality. That
would allow us to also remove the (quite confusing) dialog.
Filters-Blur-Blur would then be a simple blur with a 3x3 convolution
kernel. It would be fast and easy to use but of course we it would be
less powerful. So the question is, is anyone actually using this
functionality? Are there scripts out there that rely on
plug-in-blur-randomize to be available?


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Re: [Gimp-user] Blur plug-in

2004-06-07 Thread Dave Neary
Hi,
Sven Neumann wrote:
I'd like to get some feedback on the following plan for the Blur
plug-in
(details are in http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142318):
The plan is to remove the randomize and repeat functionality. That
would allow us to also remove the (quite confusing) dialog.
Sounds OK to me.
Cheers,
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Re: [Gimp-user] Blur plug-in

2004-06-07 Thread Alexander Rabtchevich
Why not to simply add new plugin with 3x3 convolution and call it Blur? 
And leave old one with new name Random blur.

Sven Neumann wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to get some feedback on the following plan for the Blur
plug-in
(details are in http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142318):
The plan is to remove the randomize and repeat functionality. That
would allow us to also remove the (quite confusing) dialog.
Filters-Blur-Blur would then be a simple blur with a 3x3 convolution
kernel. It would be fast and easy to use but of course we it would be
less powerful. So the question is, is anyone actually using this
functionality? Are there scripts out there that rely on
plug-in-blur-randomize to be available?

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[Gimp-user] GIMP Conference stand?

2004-06-07 Thread Dave Neary
Hi all,
Do people think that it is worthwhile for the GIMP to have a stand at 
GUADEC? It would perhaps be a way to sell some t-shirts, have a couple 
of computers with people doing demos, and have an easy popint-of-contact 
for people when they were on their down-time.

The problem is that it would need to have some work done for it - 
posters and banners, for example, and I will not be able to do that. Are 
there people who thionk this is a very good idea, who are prepared to 
put some time into preparing the stand and putting it up when we get to 
Norway?

Please reply on the list, we can decide before the end of the week 
whether to do this depending on the response we get.

Cheers,
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Re: [Gimp-user] Blur plug-in

2004-06-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Alexander Rabtchevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Why not to simply add new plugin with 3x3 convolution and call it
 Blur? And leave old one with new name Random blur.

Because we are trying to simplify our menus. Suggesting to add yet
another entry to the Blur menu is counter-productive. I've been asking
for a use case; do you have one?

We can always put the Randomized Blur plug-in to the registry and if
someone really needs it, she can install it from there.


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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] volunteer needed for preferences dialog

2004-06-07 Thread Eric Pierce
What do you need done?

 Hi,

 I am forwarding this mail to gimp-user because there hasn't been any
 response on the gimp-developer mailing-list. Perhaps I can reach a
 potential contributor here or at least get some user feedback...


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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] volunteer needed for preferences dialog

2004-06-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Eric Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 What do you need done?

Huh? The forwarded mail outlines it in all details. Which part did you
not understand?


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[Gimp-user] Re: Blur plug-in

2004-06-07 Thread GSR - FR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-06-07 at 1149.52 +0200):
 The plan is to remove the randomize and repeat functionality. That
 would allow us to also remove the (quite confusing) dialog.
 Filters-Blur-Blur would then be a simple blur with a 3x3 convolution
 kernel. It would be fast and easy to use but of course we it would be
 less powerful. So the question is, is anyone actually using this
 functionality? Are there scripts out there that rely on
 plug-in-blur-randomize to be available?

Why not just ditch it completly then? If it just a 3x3 convolution
that you have to manually repeat, and there are already other filters
and scripts that do the same. The point of repeat is not having to
rerun manually to get a bigger radius blur.

Someone was doing a version that used another channel to control the
repeats, which is a nice improvement. If that is accepted as
improvement it should stay, otherwise I see no reason to keep it along
the generic matrix one and its presets.

GSR
 
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[Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Blur plug-in

2004-06-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

GSR - FR [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  The plan is to remove the randomize and repeat functionality. That
  would allow us to also remove the (quite confusing) dialog.
  Filters-Blur-Blur would then be a simple blur with a 3x3 convolution
  kernel. It would be fast and easy to use but of course we it would be
  less powerful. So the question is, is anyone actually using this
  functionality? Are there scripts out there that rely on
  plug-in-blur-randomize to be available?
 
 Why not just ditch it completly then? If it just a 3x3 convolution
 that you have to manually repeat, and there are already other filters
 and scripts that do the same. The point of repeat is not having to
 rerun manually to get a bigger radius blur.
 
 Someone was doing a version that used another channel to control the
 repeats, which is a nice improvement. If that is accepted as
 improvement it should stay, otherwise I see no reason to keep it along
 the generic matrix one and its presets.

Sorry, but what other scripts or plug-ins are you referring to? IMO it
would be a good thing to have a simple and fast plug-in that does the
job w/o a dialog and I fail to see what other plug-in would provide
this functionality.


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[Gimp-user] Re: Re: Blur plug-in

2004-06-07 Thread GSR - FR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-06-07 at 1649.35 +0200):
 Sorry, but what other scripts or plug-ins are you referring to? IMO it
 would be a good thing to have a simple and fast plug-in that does the
 job w/o a dialog and I fail to see what other plug-in would provide
 this functionality.

Convolution matrix, and there are scripts floating around that give
matrix presets.

GSR
 
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[Gimp-user] Re: Re: Re: Blur plug-in

2004-06-07 Thread GSR - FR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-06-07 at 1759.17 +0200):
 calling the convolution matrix plug in and scripts to preset it a simple 
 replacement ?

Well, what would you call a script that just puts a menu entry and
calls convolution matrix with a fixed matrix?

 Please rephrase that to a powerful replacement that can be used by the 
 more then average(new) gimp user.
 Would this mean having a script-fu menu entry fill convolution matrix 
 for : blur/sharpen/edge detect etc. 

Those already exists. The ones I got have some extra controls, but
nothing disallows making no dialog versions.

 2. when using the randomize option the preview makes no real sense 
 since by nature you'll never get twice the same result.

Depends how the code is done, using pseudo random and taking into
account 2d coord it should provide repeatable results.

 4. If a bigger blur is needed use the gausian blur instead of repeating.

They are different things, though, box vs guassian.

GSR
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] volunteer needed for preferences dialog

2004-06-07 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Sven Neumann wrote:
Hi,
Eric Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

What do you need done?

Huh? The forwarded mail outlines it in all details. Which part did you
not understand?
Um, no it doesn't. I just has a short blurb about little response on the dev 
mailing list and needing help with the Preferences dialog.

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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] volunteer needed for preferencesdialog

2004-06-07 Thread Eric Pierce
 Sven Neumann wrote:
 Hi,

 Eric Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


What do you need done?


 Huh? The forwarded mail outlines it in all details. Which part did you
 not understand?

 Um, no it doesn't. I just has a short blurb about little response on the
 dev
 mailing list and needing help with the Preferences dialog.

My bad.  I didn't noticed the forwarded e-mail.  I've been so busy at work
lately that I now skip every 3rd word in e-mails, so that must've been
where I missed it.

I'm not sure if I'd be much help.  I'm probably too beginner for gtk2/C on
the Gimp.

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[Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Re: Re: Blur plug-in

2004-06-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

GSR - FR [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-06-07 at 1759.17 +0200):
  calling the convolution matrix plug in and scripts to preset it a
  simple replacement ?
 
 Well, what would you call a script that just puts a menu entry and
 calls convolution matrix with a fixed matrix?

I'd call it a waste of resources. Actually such a simple task as
applying a convolution kernel should probably be done completely in
the core.


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[Gimp-user] list for script-fu-s

2004-06-07 Thread Gergely Kontra
Hi!

Is there a separate list for gimp scripting, or should I ask script-fu
related questions here?

thx
Gergo
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[Gimp-user] alternating brighter and normal-color stripes

2004-06-07 Thread klaus triendl
hi,

as i don't know how it is called what i wanna make, i paraphrise it:

at gnome.org and other gnome-related sites there is a background image
at the very top of the site, having alternating brighter and
normal-color stripes.

how can i reach this effect?


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Re: [Gimp-user] list for script-fu-s

2004-06-07 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
On Monday 07 June 2004 15:31, Gergely Kontra wrote:
 Hi!

 Is there a separate list for gimp scripting, or should I ask script-fu
 related questions here?

 thx
 Gergo
There is a script-fu list in yahoogroups.
But it has movement 0 -  so you may ask your questions here, no problem.


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Although, once when I needed some help, I sent a mail there, and they answered 
rather quickly.

Regards,
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Re: [Gimp-user] list for script-fu-s

2004-06-07 Thread Carol Spears
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 08:31:48PM +0200, Gergely Kontra wrote:
 Hi!
 
 Is there a separate list for gimp scripting, or should I ask script-fu
 related questions here?
 
please do not ask to ask.  Ask.

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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] volunteer needed for preferences dialog

2004-06-07 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Sven Neumann wrote:
Hi,
Andrew Gaffney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

What do you need done?
Huh? The forwarded mail outlines it in all details. Which part did
you
not understand?
Um, no it doesn't. I just has a short blurb about little response on
the dev mailing list and needing help with the Preferences dialog.

I am afraid you guys need to fix your mail readers. The message I sent
is a multipart message containing an attachment of
   Content-Type: message/rfc822
   Content-Disposition: inline
This is the recommended way of forwarding a message. Inside this
attachment you will find the detailed proposal for changes to the
preferences dialog.
Shouldn't Mozilla Mail be able to handle that without a problem?
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Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running

2004-06-07 Thread Carol Spears
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 02:53:44PM -0400, Robert Krueger wrote:
 Hi,
   I am having a terrible time getting 2.01 to run in my Suse 9.0 
 system.I do have 1.2 working ok, but I have read everything I can on 
 this, and spent 3 weeks on and off trying to get it to configure.I 
 feel especially bad because we downloaded the 2.01 Windows version onto 
 my wifes new Dell laptop with the XP system, and it's running peachy, no 
 problems.The main problem centers around pkg-config.Here's the 
 error.
 
 pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0'   returned 2.2.3 but GLIB ( 2.3.6 ) 
 was found!
 
i had similar problems with debian.  i did not type pkg-config
--modversion glib-2.0' but figured it out some other way (i read spew
too much).

the way i solved it on debian was to build a cvs version of glib in
/usr/local and add it to the path when i built my own deb of gtk2.

the developers lied to me or have something else going on when they told
me that debian gave them a working version.

too much script-fu in their background, i think.

carol

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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] volunteer needed for preferences dialog

2004-06-07 Thread Michael Schumacher
Andrew Gaffney wrote:
Sven Neumann wrote:

I am afraid you guys need to fix your mail readers. The message I sent
is a multipart message containing an attachment of
   Content-Type: message/rfc822
   Content-Disposition: inline
This is the recommended way of forwarding a message. Inside this
attachment you will find the detailed proposal for changes to the
preferences dialog.

Shouldn't Mozilla Mail be able to handle that without a problem?
Thunderbird does.
HTH,
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Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running

2004-06-07 Thread Robert Krueger
Carol Spears wrote:
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 02:53:44PM -0400, Robert Krueger wrote:
 

Hi,
 I am having a terrible time getting 2.01 to run in my Suse 9.0 
system.I do have 1.2 working ok, but I have read everything I can on 
this, and spent 3 weeks on and off trying to get it to configure.I 
feel especially bad because we downloaded the 2.01 Windows version onto 
my wifes new Dell laptop with the XP system, and it's running peachy, no 
problems.The main problem centers around pkg-config.Here's the 
error.

pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0'   returned 2.2.3 but GLIB ( 2.3.6 ) 
was found!

   

i had similar problems with debian.  i did not type pkg-config
--modversion glib-2.0' but figured it out some other way (i read spew
too much).
the way i solved it on debian was to build a cvs version of glib in
/usr/local and add it to the path when i built my own deb of gtk2.
the developers lied to me or have something else going on when they told
me that debian gave them a working version.
too much script-fu in their background, i think.
carol
 

I have the feeling that if I just eliminate the files for glib 2.3.6 or 
the text that pkg-config found, that it would configure without 
complaint.   I don't know how to find and eliminate this text or files, 
though.

Robert
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Re: [Gimp-user] alternating brighter and normal-color stripes

2004-06-07 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
Hi,

On Mon, 2004-06-07 at 21:06, klaus triendl wrote:
 at gnome.org and other gnome-related sites there is a background image
 at the very top of the site, having alternating brighter and
 normal-color stripes.
 
 how can i reach this effect?

You could render a white grid (with only horizontal lines in it) on a
transparent layer on top of your image - then play with the layer
opacity until you're satisfied.

There's a plug-in for rendering grids included with the GIMP, but I
haven't got access to a GIMP installation right now, so I can not tell
you the menu path :/

It's somewhere below Image/Filters/Render/ I think.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running

2004-06-07 Thread Carol Spears
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 03:30:09PM -0400, Robert Krueger wrote:
 Carol Spears wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 02:53:44PM -0400, Robert Krueger wrote:
 
 pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0'   returned 2.2.3 but GLIB ( 2.3.6 ) 
 was found!
 
 i had similar problems with debian.  i did not type pkg-config
 --modversion glib-2.0' but figured it out some other way (i read spew
 too much).
 
 the way i solved it on debian was to build a cvs version of glib in
 /usr/local and add it to the path when i built my own deb of gtk2.
 
 the developers lied to me or have something else going on when they told
 me that debian gave them a working version.
 
 too much script-fu in their background, i think.
 
 I have the feeling that if I just eliminate the files for glib 2.3.6 or 
 the text that pkg-config found, that it would configure without 
 complaint.   I don't know how to find and eliminate this text or files, 
 though.
 
well, that is the thing about linux.  you are still trying to work with
the distribution.  distributions break.

glib doesn't really do that much.  or glib does a lot but very simply.
it is the bottom package.  it is actually nothing but a gnu wrapper
around libc.  so the changes there are not really important.  unless
something really big happened to libc. libc has worked well forever. i
used it with the algol wrapper so long ago.

take advantage of the linux origins of the software.  building your own
glib is very easy.  it does not even need a lot of disc space.

i can make no promises that suse has provided a means to build a gtk2
easily, debian did for me.  building my gtk2 deb needed to only see the
configuration file that my personal build of glib put there and
thankfully the rest just took build time.  now my job is to keep them
from installing their broken deb again until they fix it.

are you absolutely married to suse for a distribution?

carol

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Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running

2004-06-07 Thread Steve M Bibayoff
Hello,

Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 take advantage of the linux origins of the software.  building your 
 ownglib is very easy.  it does not even need a lot of disc space.

Easy to build glibc, but much easier to hose your whole 
system(everything) if glibc isn't built right. Also, expect 
to need about 1/2 GB of disc space to build.


m2c

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Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running

2004-06-07 Thread Robert Krueger
Robert Krueger wrote:
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 02:53:44PM -0400, Robert Krueger wrote:
 

Hi,
 I am having a terrible time getting 2.01 to run in my Suse 9.0 
system.I do have 1.2 working ok, but I have read everything I 
can on this, and spent 3 weeks on and off trying to get it to 
configure.I feel especially bad because we downloaded the 2.01 
Windows version onto my wifes new Dell laptop with the XP system, 
and it's running peachy, no problems.The main problem centers 
around pkg-config.Here's the error.

pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0'   returned 2.2.3 but GLIB ( 2.3.6 
) was found!

As an additional note, here is the complete message:
checking for pkg-config... /usr/local/bin/pkg-config
checking for GLIB - version = 2.2.0...
*** 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.2.3, but GLIB (2.3.6)
*** was found! If pkg-config was correct, then it is best
*** to remove the old version of GLib. You may also be able to fix the error
*** by modifying your LD_LIBRARY_PATH enviroment variable, or by editing
*** /etc/ld.so.conf. Make sure you have run ldconfig if that is
*** required on your system.
*** If pkg-config was wrong, set the environment variable PKG_CONFIG_PATH
*** to point to the correct configuration files
no
Sure would like some help...
Thanks,
Robert
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Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running

2004-06-07 Thread Michael Schumacher
Steve M Bibayoff wrote:
Hello,
Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

take advantage of the linux origins of the software.  building your 
ownglib is very easy.  it does not even need a lot of disc space.

Easy to build glibc, but much easier to hose your whole 
system(everything) if glibc isn't built right. Also, expect 
to need about 1/2 GB of disc space to build.
glib != glibc
HTH,
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Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running

2004-06-07 Thread Steve M Bibayoff
Hello,

Michael Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 glib != glibc

slaps palm to forhead.

Sorry about adding noise, wasn't following thread to closely.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running

2004-06-07 Thread Robert Krueger
Michael Schumacher wrote:
Carol Spears wrote:
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 03:30:09PM -0400, Robert Krueger wrote:

I have the feeling that if I just eliminate the files for glib 2.3.6 
or the text that pkg-config found, that it would configure without 
complaint.   I don't know how to find and eliminate this text or 
files, though.

well, that is the thing about linux.  you are still trying to work with
the distribution.  distributions break.

Doesn't Suse have a tool used for package management (yast2, iirc)? 
Maybe removing and/or upgrading glib with this toll can help?

HTH,
Michael

Already did that.   That's why I have 2.2.3 on the system.
Robert
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Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running

2004-06-07 Thread Robert Krueger
Michael Schumacher wrote:
Carol Spears wrote:
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 03:30:09PM -0400, Robert Krueger wrote:

I have the feeling that if I just eliminate the files for glib 2.3.6 
or the text that pkg-config found, that it would configure without 
complaint.   I don't know how to find and eliminate this text or 
files, though.

well, that is the thing about linux.  you are still trying to work with
the distribution.  distributions break.

Doesn't Suse have a tool used for package management (yast2, iirc)? 
Maybe removing and/or upgrading glib with this toll can help?

HTH,
Michael

What I need is for someone to work with me to find out how to eliminate 
all traces of 2.3.6 so pkg-config doesn't see two versions.That's my 
first best-step in eliminating this problem.

Robert
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Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running

2004-06-07 Thread Steve M Bibayoff
Hello,

Forwarring, I haven't used Suse in a very long time, and 
I rarely use pkg-config, so I may be leading you down a wrong
road.

Robert Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What I need is for someone to work with me to find out how to 
 eliminate 
 all traces of 2.3.6 so pkg-config doesn't see two versions.

pkg-config stores looks for info in *.pc files . See if 
they are any in your gimp*/lib/ or any where on your system.

Also, what does:
$ echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH 
give you?

Steve

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Re: [Gimp-user] alternating brighter and normal-color stripes

2004-06-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

klaus triendl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 as i don't know how it is called what i wanna make, i paraphrise it:
 
 at gnome.org and other gnome-related sites there is a background image
 at the very top of the site, having alternating brighter and
 normal-color stripes.
 
 how can i reach this effect?

GIMP 2.0 includes a pattern just for this very purpose. All you need
to do is to create an empty layer on top of your image, choose one of
the Stripes patterns and drop it on the image (or use the Bucket
Fill tool to fill the empty layer with that pattern). Then adjust the
layer opacity to your needs.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running

2004-06-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Robert Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 system.I do have 1.2 working ok, but I have read everything I can
 on this, and spent 3 weeks on and off trying to get it to configure.

Please go to http://gimp.org/unix/ and use the RPMS linked from there.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Terrible time to get 2.01 running

2004-06-07 Thread Robert Krueger
William Skaggs wrote:
You should be looking for a file named glib-2.0.pc, and it is
probably located in a directory called pkgconfig.  In Fedora the
default is /usr/lib/pkgconfig but I believe it is different in
SuSE.  If pkg-config data files are located elsewhere than in
the default directory, then the environment variable 
PKG_CONFIG_PATH gives a list of the possible locations.

Hope this helps,
 -- Bill
 

Steve and Bill,
   I found the file you noted in /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig.It's the 
only location on my system that has this particular file, although I do 
have other *.pc files in another location /opt/gnome/lib/pkgconfig.
So, if I understand this correctly, if I eliminate the glib-2.0.pc 
from /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig, and then do another make install from 
glib 2.2.3, it should recreate that file again in that directory, correct?
   Now I'm just guessing, but there must be an alternate file with 
2.3.6 version somewhere, else how is it getting that information?
BTW, here's the result from /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/glib-2.0.pc:

prefix=/usr/local
exec_prefix=${prefix}
libdir=${exec_prefix}/lib
includedir=${prefix}/include
glib_genmarshal=glib-genmarshal
gobject_query=gobject-query
glib_mkenums=glib-mkenums
Name: GLib
Description: C Utility Library
Version: 2.2.3
Libs: -L${libdir} -lglib-2.0  
Cflags: -I${includedir}/glib-2.0 -I${libdir}/glib-2.0/include

The result of this file leads me to believe there is another source 
where pkgconfig is getting it's outdated info, i.e, glib 2.3.6.

Robert
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Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running

2004-06-07 Thread Robert Krueger
Steve M Bibayoff wrote:
snip
Also, what does:
$ echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH 
give you?

Steve
 

I apologize for the deletion.   Here's what I get:
/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig:/opt/gnome/lib/pkgconfig
Even though there are multiple locations for the directory /pkgconfig, 
there is only one glib-2.0.pc file, in fact, there is no other *.pc file 
that begins with glib.

Thanks
Robert
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Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running

2004-06-07 Thread Carol Spears
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 04:12:36PM -0400, Robert Krueger wrote:
 Carol Spears wrote:
 are you absolutely married to suse for a distribution?
 
 No offense, Carol, but this thread isn't solving my problem.   And I 
 already did build glib from source...several times.
 I'm not changing distributions because a piece of software doesn't work, 
 you must be kidding...
 If you have a workable solution to get get Gimp 2.0.1 working on my 
 system, I would be happy to continue this discussion.

you could have just said yes, you are married the suse distribution.

good luck!

carol

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Re: [Gimp-user] Terrible time to get 2.01 running

2004-06-07 Thread Thong Nguyen
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, Robert Krueger wrote:

 checking for pkg-config... /usr/local/bin/pkg-config
 checking for GLIB - version = 2.2.0...
 *** 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.2.3, but GLIB (2.3.6)
 *** was found! If pkg-config was correct, then it is best
 *** to remove the old version of GLib. You may also be able to fix the error
 *** by modifying your LD_LIBRARY_PATH enviroment variable, or by editing
 *** /etc/ld.so.conf. Make sure you have run ldconfig if that is
 *** required on your system.
 *** If pkg-config was wrong, set the environment variable PKG_CONFIG_PATH
 *** to point to the correct configuration files

It seems to me that pkg-config returns one version and the linker
finds another version, in this case pkg-config returns 2.2.3 and the
linker finds 2.3.6.  I would try to update the list of files the
linker uses to find libraries to link by doing ldconfig as root.
If that doesn't work then try editing /etc/ld.so.conf, or where
ever that file is if you system uses this this and rearrange the
paths for the libraries to list the version returned by pkg-config
first.

If you don't want to all that above, just set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to
the directory where your 2.2.3 glib is and that should fix this
problem.  Of course, I've read that this method is not a good thing
to do because it does something bad but I don't remember what.

Hope that helps
Thong

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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Terrible time to get 2.01 running

2004-06-07 Thread BandiPat
On Monday 07 June 2004 06:58 pm, Robert Krueger wrote:
[...]
 Steve and Bill,
 I found the file you noted in /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig.It's
 the only location on my system that has this particular file,
 although I do have other *.pc files in another location
 /opt/gnome/lib/pkgconfig. So, if I understand this correctly, if I
 eliminate the glib-2.0.pc from /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig, and then do
 another make install from glib 2.2.3, it should recreate that file
 again in that directory, correct? Now I'm just guessing, but there
 must be an alternate file with 2.3.6 version somewhere, else how is
 it getting that information? BTW, here's the result from
 /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/glib-2.0.pc:
[...]
 The result of this file leads me to believe there is another source
 where pkgconfig is getting it's outdated info, i.e, glib 2.3.6.

 Robert
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Robert,

I believe you mentioned that you are using SuSE 9.0 now?  I don't 
remember what versions of glib  glib2 came with that now.  I know a 
version 2.x, but don't remember the exact version without looking on my 
discs.  Anyway, SuSE does have update files on their ftp to bring 
things up to 2.4 for glib2 at least.  Since glib pertains to gtk and 
glib2 to the new gtk+, which I believe Gimp has also been updated to 
use, I'm pretty sure you won't find a 2.3 version of glib to use.  
Usually your odd versions are developer versions anyway.  Be sure too, 
that you have all the -devel packages installed for compiling.

I don't know how much you have been mucking around with your setup, but 
it sounds as if you might have gotten things wanky.  You could always 
do a repair from your SuSE discs, to put things back or you could 
update to 9.1 and get Gimp 2.x in the process.  ;o)

You can also download the Gnome files from their ftp for 9.0 and 
probably settle things down too, if you are wanting to compile the 
newer version.  One other thing, I believe in one of the mails, someone 
mentioned glibc.  glibc is one of those things one should not mess with 
on their setup as it provides the base for all Linux.  It is extremely 
fragile and updating or changing things are a bad idea.  That's not to 
say one can't do it, but due to the nature of it's existence, it's 
recommended strongly not too!


Regards,
Patrick
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