Re: [Gimp-user] gimp 2.4.0-rc3

2007-10-09 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

it sounds as if you managed to screw things up quite badly. You can't
have several versions of GIMP installed unless you put them into
separate prefixes outside the system search paths. Using '/usr/local'
doesn't count as a separate prefix. Please see the release notes for the
development releases:

  http://gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.3.html

If you followed those instructions, and there are still problems, then
it would be nice to get a bug report with a stack trace from the crash.
What you included in your mail was the output from strace. That's not
very useful to debug a crash. What we need is a back-trace generated
from gdb. But for most problems it should be sufficient to have a
detailed description that allows us to reproduce the problem.


Sven


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[Gimp-user] some quary

2007-10-09 Thread jayesh thorve
   Hi,


   I am Migrating  From  Photoshop to Gimp,
   In Photoshop there is move tool move any part of image
so what is option in gimp
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Re: [Gimp-user] some quary

2007-10-09 Thread Bob Long

- Original Message - 
From: jayesh thorve [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   I am Migrating  From  Photoshop to Gimp,
   In Photoshop there is move tool move any part of image
 so what is option in gimp

The Move tool! It's the four headed arrow. Select part of the image; click 
the tool; select the option in the lower area to move the layer, or 
selection, etc.

-- 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-user Digest, Vol 61, Issue 21

2007-10-09 Thread Ashok Mathur
) = 1 (in [9])
 read(9, , 4)  = 0
 open(/usr/lib/gconv/gconv-modules.cache, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No
 such file or directory)
 open(/usr/lib/gconv/gconv-modules, O_RDONLY) = 3
 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=54635, ...}) = 0
 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1,
 0) = 0xb7416000
 read(3, # GNU libc iconv configuration.\n..., 4096) = 4096
 read(3, as\tJS//\t\t\tJUS_I.B1.002//\nalias\tY..., 4096) = 4096
 read(3, e\tINTERNAL\t\tISO-8859-3//\t\tISO885..., 4096) = 4096
 read(3, as\tISO-IR-199//\t\tISO-8859-14//\na..., 4096) = 4096
 read(3, to\t\t\tmodule\t\tcost\nalias\tCSEBCDIC..., 4096) = 4096
 read(3, e\t\tcost\nalias\tCP284//\t\t\tIBM284//..., 4096) = 4096
 read(3, as\tCP864//\t\t\tIBM864//\nalias\t864/..., 4096) = 4096
 read(3, dule\tIBM937//\t\tINTERNAL\t\tIBM937\t..., 4096) = 4096
 read(3, UC-JP//\nalias\tUJIS//\t\t\tEUC-JP//\n..., 4096) = 4096
 read(3, dule\t\tcost\nalias\tISO-IR-143//\t\tI..., 4096) = 4096
 read(3, OX//\nmodule\tISO_10367-BOX//\t\tINT..., 4096) = 4096
 read(3, dule\tINTERNAL\t\tEUC-JISX0213//\t\tE..., 4096) = 4096
 read(3, odule\tIBM1130//\t\tINTERNAL\t\tIBM11..., 4096) = 4096
 read(3, 804//\t\tIBM16804//\nalias\tCP16804/..., 4096) = 1387
 read(3, , 4096)   = 0
 close(3)= 0
 munmap(0xb7416000, 4096)= 0
 futex(0xb76e0a4c, FUTEX_WAKE, 2147483647) = 0
 open(/usr/lib/gconv/ISO8859-1.so, O_RDONLY) = 3
 read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0P\3\0\000...,
 512) = 512
 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=6950, ...}) = 0
 mmap2(NULL, 8220, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0)
 = 0xb7414000
 mmap2(0xb7415000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
 MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0xb7415000
 close(3)= 0
 write(2, \n(script-fu:19752): LibGimpBase-..., 79) = 79
 shmdt(0xb7f0f000)   = 0
 exit_group(0)   = ?


 Should I submit a bug report?


 Thanks
 Rich







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 Rich wrote:
 
 
  Rich wrote:
 
  After installing 2.4.0-rc3, I was configuring the preferences, as I
 was
  trying out the settings,
   when I double clicked the 'Main Mouse Wheel' device under
   File/Preferences/Input Devices/Input Controllers, Gimp disappears
 and dies.
 
 

 One more item - I thought about comparing the controllers in the
 controllerrc file.

 There were two lines missing from the Main Mouse Wheel and Main Keyboard.
 I added the stock-id and controller items  and removed the other two
 controllers that were added.
 I started gimp, I can now select and edit them fine - the dialog works
 and no more crashing.


 (GimpControllerInfo Main Mouse Wheel
 (stock-id gimp-controller-wheel)
 (enabled yes)
 (debug-events no)
 (controller GimpControllerWheel)
 (mapping
 
 (GimpControllerInfo Main Keyboard
 (stock-id gimp-controller-keyboard)
 (enabled yes)
 (debug-events no)
 (controller GimpControllerKeyboard)
 (mapping
   :::


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 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] gimp 2.4.0-rc3
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 Rich wrote:
 
 
  Rich wrote:
 
 
  Rich wrote:
 
  After installing 2.4.0-rc3, I was configuring the preferences, as I
 was
  trying out the settings,
   when I double clicked the 'Main Mouse Wheel' device under
   File/Preferences/Input Devices/Input Controllers, Gimp disappears
 and dies.
 
 
 
  One more item - I thought about comparing the controllers in the
  controllerrc file.
 

 One last note, :)

   I was testing the mappings, and it seems the context mappings for the
 mouse wheel do not work.
   I updated them to match the new mappings - now everything works fine.
 (thanks for the debug events).
   Maybe there is a default that needs to be updated.

 (GimpControllerInfo Main Mouse Wheel
 (stock-id gimp-controller-wheel)
 (enabled yes)
 (debug-events no)
 (controller GimpControllerWheel)
 (mapping
 (map scroll-up-control-alt context-gradient-select-next)
 (map scroll-up-shift-control-alt context-font-select-next)
 (map scroll

Re: [Gimp-user] What's the opinion here of Beginning GIMP: From Novice to Professional?

2007-10-09 Thread Greg
--- Carsten Agger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I recently bought the book (it was recommended in a video podcast
 at www.meetthegimp.org) and did the first four chapters ... and think
 it looks good; i already learned a lot, and it only seems to be
 getting better. It looks good for not-so-advanced users, IMHO.

I have that book as well and also find it very useful and easy to read.
 Another two GIMP books I like is, The Artist's Guide to GIMP Effects
and GIMP 2 for Photographers  These are good follow-up books as they
concentrate on practical applications of GIMP.


   

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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp 2.4.0-rc3

2007-10-09 Thread Rich


Sven Neumann wrote:
 Hi,

 it sounds as if you managed to screw things up quite badly. You can't
 have several versions of GIMP installed unless you put them into
 separate prefixes outside the system search paths. Using '/usr/local'
 doesn't count as a separate prefix. Please see the release notes for the
 development releases:

   http://gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.3.html

 If you followed those instructions, and there are still problems, then
 it would be nice to get a bug report with a stack trace from the crash.
 What you included in your mail was the output from strace. That's not
 very useful to debug a crash. What we need is a back-trace generated
 from gdb. But for most problems it should be sufficient to have a
 detailed description that allows us to reproduce the problem.


   
Thanks. I'll check out the site. 
Cleaning up the so's from 2.3 worked.
Updating the context actions restored the mouse wheel options.

Regards
Rich
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[Gimp-user] sharpen vs. levels, curves, saturation

2007-10-09 Thread carol irvin
rather than relying on sharpen to sharpen an image, i have much better luck
using levels or curves.
i also typically increase saturation some on images after i have done a
layers or curves adjustment.
i thus almost never need to use sharpen, which is good, because sharpen
usually doesn't make my image
better.

the above is true for both GIMP and Photoshop.

carol

On 10/9/07, Pere Pujal i Carabantes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all!

  to  (gimp-selection-sharpen img) does
 not meet the SHARPEN or SHARPEN MORE from photoshop, so what are the
 gimp equivalents for SHARPEN or SHARPEN MORE?



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Re: [Gimp-user] sharpen vs. levels, curves, saturation

2007-10-09 Thread Patrick Shanahan
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* carol irvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-09-07 23:14]:
 rather than relying on sharpen to sharpen an image, i have much better
 luck using levels or curves.

 i also typically increase saturation some on images after i have done
 a layers or curves adjustment.

 i thus almost never need to use sharpen, which is good, because
 sharpen usually doesn't make my image better.
 
 the above is true for both GIMP and Photoshop.


Please provide a little more detail about this operation, ie: explain
layers adjustment and which curves.

interesting idea, tks,
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Re: [Gimp-user] sharpen vs. levels, curves, saturation

2007-10-09 Thread carol irvin
in both photoshop and GIMP you do not need to do these functions as a layer
adjustment
(i.e. work on layers).  You can use the Image menu in photoshop and make
these adjustments
without layers or in Gimp you can go to the Tools menu and do an adjustment
under colors.
as long as you are saving your various versions, there is no danger of being
stuck with a
change you don't like.  You CAN do these as a layers adjustment but that
presupposes
that the user is already good at using layers and also wants to take the
extra time to flatten and such.

As for the actual use of the tools, each has
its own dialog box with sliders and you manually slide the controls till you
have something
which pleases you.  I am NOT a purist where I insist on doing everything in
layers.  I usually
go to layers when I am blending various versions of images.  There are some
who would regard
me as a heretic for saying this though as they don't believe you should do
anything without using
layers.

I think any of these manuals we have been discussing show illustrations of
all of the above.
Grooking the GIMP, as previously given as a link to the group, for sure
shows all of the above
and that manual is entirely online and free.

carol

On 10/9/07, Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 * carol irvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-09-07 23:14]:
  rather than relying on sharpen to sharpen an image, i have much better
  luck using levels or curves.
 
  i also typically increase saturation some on images after i have done
  a layers or curves adjustment.
 
  i thus almost never need to use sharpen, which is good, because
  sharpen usually doesn't make my image better.
 
  the above is true for both GIMP and Photoshop.


 Please provide a little more detail about this operation, ie: explain
 layers adjustment and which curves.

 interesting idea, tks,
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[Gimp-user] Fwd: sharpen vs. levels, curves, saturation

2007-10-09 Thread carol irvin
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From: carol irvin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Oct 9, 2007 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] sharpen vs. levels, curves, saturation
To: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu

in both photoshop and GIMP you do not need to do these functions as a layer
adjustment
(i.e. work on layers).  You can use the Image menu in photoshop and make
these adjustments
without layers or in Gimp you can go to the Tools menu and do an adjustment
under colors.
as long as you are saving your various versions, there is no danger of being
stuck with a
change you don't like.  You CAN do these as a layers adjustment but that
presupposes
that the user is already good at using layers and also wants to take the
extra time to flatten and such.

As for the actual use of the tools, each has
its own dialog box with sliders and you manually slide the controls till you
have something
which pleases you.  I am NOT a purist where I insist on doing everything in
layers.  I usually
go to layers when I am blending various versions of images.  There are some
who would regard
me as a heretic for saying this though as they don't believe you should do
anything without using
layers.

I think any of these manuals we have been discussing show illustrations of
all of the above.
Grooking the GIMP, as previously given as a link to the group, for sure
shows all of the above
and that manual is entirely online and free.

carol

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 * carol irvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-09-07 23:14]:
  rather than relying on sharpen to sharpen an image, i have much better
  luck using levels or curves.
 
  i also typically increase saturation some on images after i have done
  a layers or curves adjustment.
 
  i thus almost never need to use sharpen, which is good, because
  sharpen usually doesn't make my image better.
 
  the above is true for both GIMP and Photoshop.


 Please provide a little more detail about this operation, ie: explain
 layers adjustment and which curves.

 interesting idea, tks,
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