Re: [Gimp-user] Batch tool suggestions?

2009-04-10 Thread norman
On Thu, 2009-04-09 at 22:17 -0400, Evan Kroske wrote:
 Hello GIMP users,
 I'm going to be developing a batch image processor plugin for GIMP, 
 and I'd like to know which functions should be the first on my list. 
 Obviously, scaling is the first priority, because I use that to optimize 
 pictures for my websites. However, past that, I'm not sure which 
 functions are the most used. Should I add ...
 ... cropping?
 ... layer management? (eg. adding a layer with a signature to a whole 
 bunch of pictures)
 ... filters?
 ... color management?
 ... or something else?
 I would like to add all of those functions, but I will probably only get 
 two or three of these actions enabled. What are the most important 
 functions for you?

I have never done this sort of thing but, from what I have learned, the
last thing I would do is sharpen the image and the step before that
would be to size the image. What you do before that is up to you but you
certainly should crop early in the process.

Hope this helps.

Norman

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Re: [Gimp-user] Batch tool suggestions?

2009-04-10 Thread Claus Cyrny

norman wrote:

On Thu, 2009-04-09 at 22:17 -0400, Evan Kroske wrote:
  

Hello GIMP users,
I'm going to be developing a batch image processor plugin for GIMP, 
and I'd like to know which functions should be the first on my list. 
Obviously, scaling is the first priority, because I use that to optimize 
pictures for my websites. However, past that, I'm not sure which 
functions are the most used. Should I add ... [ ... ] What are the most important 
functions for you?



I have never done this sort of thing but, from what I have learned, the
last thing I would do is sharpen the image and the step before that
would be to size the image.


I personally would really like to have

a) Resampling
b) 'Smart' Unsharp Mask

available, which I use quite frequently.

The latter is an advanced  'Unsharp Mask'
technique, which goes as follows:

1.) Decompose the image to HSV
2.) Select the 'V' layer
3.) Copy this layer into a mask
4.) Perform 'Find Edges (Sobel)' on the  mask
5.) Perform a 'Gaussian Blur' (value: 0.35 ... 0.50)
on the mask
6.) Mask - selection
6.) Delete the mask
7.) Perform 'Unsharp Mask' on the now-selected 'V' layer
8.) Compose the image back to RGB

The results one gets when using this technique are visibly
better than a mere 'Unsharp Mask'.

Greetings,

Claus

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Re: [Gimp-user] Batch tool suggestions? (corr.)

2009-04-10 Thread Claus Cyrny

Claus Cyrny wrote:


4.) Perform 'Find Edges (Sobel)' on the  mask


Value: 0.25


5.) Perform a 'Gaussian Blur' (value: 0.35 ... 0.50)
on the mask


This should actually read '0.2'. ('0.35 ... 0.50' are the
values I use for the final 'Unsharp Mask'.)

Claus

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Re: [Gimp-user] Batch tool suggestions?

2009-04-10 Thread stephen moss
Evan,

- a _pause_ for subjective actions

One action I use when I make a python script for batch manipulation is a
_pause_ where I can make subjective decisions like cropping and then
click go, where the python script returns to the automated actions like
uniform resizing etc, then it brings up the next image, automated
actions, stops again for me to crop etc.


Stephen

Evan Kroske wrote:
 Hello GIMP users,
 I'm going to be developing a batch image processor plugin for GIMP, 
 and I'd like to know which functions should be the first on my list. 
 Obviously, scaling is the first priority, because I use that to optimize 
 pictures for my websites. However, past that, I'm not sure which 
 functions are the most used. Should I add ...
 ... cropping?
 ... layer management? (eg. adding a layer with a signature to a whole 
 bunch of pictures)
 ... filters?
 ... color management?
 ... or something else?
 I would like to add all of those functions, but I will probably only get 
 two or three of these actions enabled. What are the most important 
 functions for you?

 Regards,
 Evan Kroske
 Future GSoCer (hopefully)
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Re: [Gimp-user] Batch tool suggestions? (corr.)

2009-04-10 Thread norman

  4.) Perform 'Find Edges (Sobel)' on the  mask
 
 Value: 0.25
 
  5.) Perform a 'Gaussian Blur' (value: 0.35 ... 0.50)
  on the mask
 
 This should actually read '0.2'. ('0.35 ... 0.50' are the
 values I use for the final 'Unsharp Mask'.)

I would like to try this idea but I am not sure how to copy a layer into
a mask. I have tried various things and even referred to the help file
with no success. Could you please explain to ignorant old me what to do?

Thanks

Norman

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Re: [Gimp-user] Batch tool suggestions?

2009-04-10 Thread Evan Kroske
Ken Warner wrote:
 May I suggest that your batch processor should itself
 be programable.  That is, you should be able to specify
 which scripts or plugins to run in which order and with
 arguments for each to control their actions.

 It's a lot of work but I know it's doable.

 Limiting your batch processor to a small set of available
 actions will only serve a very small number of people.

 Evan Kroske wrote:
 Hello GIMP users,
 I'm going to be developing a batch image processor plugin for 
 GIMP, and I'd like to know which functions should be the first on my 
 list. Obviously, scaling is the first priority, because I use that to 
 optimize pictures for my websites. However, past that, I'm not sure 
 which functions are the most used. Should I add ...
 ... cropping?
 ... layer management? (eg. adding a layer with a signature to a whole 
 bunch of pictures)
 ... filters?
 ... color management?
 ... or something else?
 I would like to add all of those functions, but I will probably only 
 get two or three of these actions enabled. What are the most 
 important functions for you?

 Regards,
 Evan Kroske
 Future GSoCer (hopefully)
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That will certainly be my goal, but I still expect to find some hiccups 
or interface inconsistencies. If I'm lucky, I won't need this list, but 
if not, I want to know the most important batch functions for me to add. 
In fact, my goal is to create a plugin that scans the undo history for 
the current image and allows you to apply those changes to a whole bunch 
of images. Now that would be slick.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Snap to Guides by default

2009-04-10 Thread malefico
Thank you Akkana, good to know these settings will be configurable in 
next versions.

Regards

malefico.

Akkana Peck wrote:
 malefico writes:
   
 I wonder if there is any way to turn off the Snap to Guides option
 
 [ ... ]
   
 Thank you David, I know where the option is, but it is always on by 
 default. Is there any way to turn it off by default ? So when Gimp 
 starts it is unchecked ?
 

 In GIMP 2.6, no. In GIMP 2.7, yes (as of a couple of weeks ago),
 but so far only by editing your gimprc. A patch has been submitted
 to add it to the prefs dialog but that has to be reviewed by the
 UI team ... I don't know if Peter has had a chance to think about
 it yet.

   ...Akkana
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[Gimp-user] Default Templates

2009-04-10 Thread Rich
Hi

I found Gimp great at designing business cards and mailing labels.
I thought maybe it would be a good addition to the template list.

Business Card 2 x 3.5

Pixels:  1062 x 615
Inches:  3.540 x 2.050
mm:   89.92 x 52.07

Landscape

These work great on with Open Office Writer Business Cards Template.
Avery 38871 Clean Edge White.


Another, one is making graphical mailing labels.

Mailing Label  2 5/8 x 1

Pixels:  780 x 295
Inches: 2.6 x 0.983
mm:   66.04 x 24.98

Avery 08920 Easy Peel White Mailing Labels.


Love working with 2.6 - great job.

Regards
Rich

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[Gimp-user] Smallest possible transparency size on disk

2009-04-10 Thread VR
I'm new to Gimp and experimenting trying to make the smallest possible 
transparent image.

As an Off-topic aside, I run local DNS in my LAN and redirect spammy ad 
domains to localhost so I don't have to look at their garbage when ad 
blockers fail, like with flash content. My 1 x 1 image will be wedged in 
place so I don't see page cannot be displayed blah blah in my browser.

So far I've been able to slim down to a 108 byte png or a 43 byte gif 
using indexed mode. Is this as good as it gets or can the image get 
smaller using some other technique?

Thanks!
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Re: [Gimp-user] Batch tool suggestions? (corr.)

2009-04-10 Thread norman

 I would like to try this idea but I am not sure how to copy a layer into
 a mask. I have tried various things and even referred to the help file
 with no success. Could you please explain to ignorant old me what to do?

Forget the question, ignorant old me has sorted it out.

Norman

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Re: [Gimp-user] Smallest possible transparency size on disk

2009-04-10 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:56:49 -0400, VR wrote:

 So far I've been able to slim down to a 108 byte png or a 43 byte gif 
 using indexed mode. Is this as good as it gets or can the image get 
 smaller using some other technique?

I managed to 1x1 PNG down to 81 bytes when using 1bit paletted image and to
73 bytes by using 24bit.

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[Gimp-user] Annoying Windows Layering

2009-04-10 Thread Brian Weese
I have the latest build of GIMP 2.6.6 ad running Windows XP.

The Toolbox dialog and any dockable dialogs are ALWAYS in front of the file
I am working on.  I usually have the layers and brush dialogs open while I'm
working on a file.  I could increase the screen resolution but it makes the
text so tiny...  I have been able to work around it for now, but it is
really annoying.

Is this happening to anybody else?  I'm not a programmer but this seems to
be only something that can be fixed by adjusting the application
code...maybe by the next release 2.6.7 hopefully?  Unless of course this is
only happening to me...

Thanks,
D. Brian Weese
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Re: [Gimp-user] Annoying Windows Layering

2009-04-10 Thread Jay Smith
On 04/10/2009 05:14 PM, Brian Weese wrote:
 I have the latest build of GIMP 2.6.6 ad running Windows XP.
  
 The Toolbox dialog and any dockable dialogs are ALWAYS in front of the
 file I am working on.  I usually have the layers and brush dialogs open
 while I'm working on a file.  I could increase the screen resolution but
 it makes the text so tiny...  I have been able to work around it for
 now, but it is really annoying.
  
 Is this happening to anybody else?  I'm not a programmer but this seems
 to be only something that can be fixed by adjusting the application
 code...maybe by the next release 2.6.7 hopefully?  Unless of course this
 is only happening to me...
 
 Thanks,
 D. Brian Weese


I am using Gimp 2.6.6 on Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy) Linux.  A lot of what we do
starts with acquiring a scan using Xsane from inside Gimp (Create...
Xsane...) [I guess many people would not have Xsane installed].

When the scanned image comes in, as the above poster says, it is behind,
underneath, etc.  I have to go fishing for it.  It is mildly annoying
the first hundred times.  By the 20,000th time (a realistic figure for
us) I think it will be _really_ annoying.

Jay Smith
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Re: [Gimp-user] Annoying Windows Layering

2009-04-10 Thread Martin Nordholts
Brian Weese wrote:
 I have the latest build of GIMP 2.6.6 ad running Windows XP.
  
 The Toolbox dialog and any dockable dialogs are ALWAYS in front of the 
 file I am working on.  I usually have the layers and brush dialogs 
 open while I'm working on a file.  I could increase the screen 
 resolution but it makes the text so tiny...  I have been able to work 
 around it for now, but it is really annoying.

Hi

You can change the dock window hints in Edit - Preferences - Window 
Managment to Normal window if you don't want them as utility windows.

Note that you can toggle visibility of docks with the Tab key.

- Martin
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